NOT a Clickbait title, I’m going to have to remove the tank again. There’s a detail that I forgot and I didn’t realize until after editing the footage. Did you spot my error? It’s hard to see.
Ray, I'm going to send you Black Out coffee, since ya know, it's a Florida based company and I'll send you a coffee maker. It'll save you tons of money and you can make your own drinks.😉👍🏻
@@jasonj8740 As long as it's not Black Rifle coffee. Black Rifle coffee is trash pretending to have conservative values, but turns around and trashes Trump supporters. The beans are mediocre anyways.
Coffee doesn’t have whip cream or all that other stuff to make a cup like $4-$6. Coffee is ground coffee beans and hot water. No sugar, cream, or other foo foo stuff.Speaking as a recently retired CW4 in the Army
My son is a CAT® Tech / mechanic changed the oil in my Tundra® (my wife-unit says that I am too old to be crawling under automobiles anymore and hospital visits are getting more expensive) and after completing the job , he used an air nozzle and cleaned all the leaves from the vents and didn't even try to up-sale me a fuel injector cleaning. I tipped him a buck ($1) for his extra service and honesty.😉👍
Rainman Ray's Repairs.. You either have to have to subscription or the bypass connector to bypass the SGM Security Gateway Module. when not using a factory scan tool on 2018 and up Chrysler products.. Also unless you didn't show it on video you may have forgot to hook up the fuel line inside the tank..
I spotted every mistake you made but what mattered most to me was that you didn't pretend you didn't make a mistake, you caught your mistake, you admitted your mistake, and you corrected your mistake sending a quality repair down the road. I don't trust anyone to service my vehicles so I service my own vehicles but I've been watching your videos an you have earned my trust to service my vehicles. I'm glad I subscribed to your channel, keep up the good work an stay safe!
Ray you are the best when in tight places. Nice Job, didn't catch the mistake. Does anybody remember when a fuel tank was metal, had a fuel line, a vent, and a filler hose, and the pump was on the engine? Good grief!
Harbor Freight, and a few places on the internet, have LED shop lights that resemble the florescent shop lights. They work very, very, well and give lots of light for very little electrical current use. They also, at this time, have no failure rate as LEDs generally do not burn out unless an over voltage situation occurs. These lights are very reasonable in cost and are easy to install. They come equipped with an accessory 120v outlet for tools or daisy chain. A line of lights can be easily be hooked to one switch. Additionally each light has its own switch.
You're a good guy Ray. I would have dropped that damn drive shaft. More space. Less room for error. I work on my own stuff. First rule. Make plenty of work space. I don't care how much stuff gets removed. No lift or special tools. I have only one chance to get it right
I had a ram 2017 1500 with a shift nob for about a year now, and today is the day that I learned about the neutral release on my truck. Thank you for that random info that you just threw in there.
Ray every nut and bolt is important it's not boring. So satisfying seeing clips, clip in ,bolts bolt in and new parts finished off, great stuff loving it.... Andy Uk
R A Y!!...yes you missed the line in the tank but WORSE is driving the ring without using a brass punch rather than a ''sparkable'' steel one....KABOOOOOM!
Sucks you have to redo all that work. After watching all you went through with that tank, I am realizing how easy I had it when I removed the back seat of my old car to change the pump. At the time I thought it was a major pain in the backside.
You did that tank the hard way. GM Tech Center had us raise the driver side of the box for access to the pump modules. No risk of dropping a tank full of fuel by trying to balance it on a trans jack. I'm a retired auto tech, 47 years on the job.
Bringing ethics and character back to mechanicing with every video man. I'm a physician but I enjoy learning from you and respect your regard for "doing the right thing." Don't ever go to corporate Healthcare - they routinely don't do the correct thing.
The trusted Doc I have is one that doesn't take insurance (any insurance) you pay cash and you pay by the minute.... He is a great Doc who cares greatly for his patients, He is far more superior then most Docs as well as a damn sight cheaper.... :) Additional note.... "corporate Docs hate him"
You forgot to hook that hose up inside the tank my brother I'm over here yelling at the phone as your reassembling the pump in the tank don't forget to hook to line up don't forget to hook to line up LOL keep up the good work bud
That's nice. A major increase to your shop working space. It's all coming together for you Ray, don't give up on your dream. It will just keep getting better and better.
Embossed metal could possibly be recycled on restroom walls and lower door (restroom) kick panel ,makes easy clean, just a suggestion.Nice big shop area, cant wait to see your vision realized.
Yes I caught it ,evac line on the pump internal was not connected . Actually went back to the other video to see if if I remembered correctly . No matter you caught it
I have had the same problem and have replaced mine myself, but my car has had a hole under the rear seats for direct access, so everything was very easy. Congratulations, this was not easy. It is hard not to make mistake here...
It’s easy to Monday morning quarter back this because I watched both videos back to back, easy to spot. Where as you had time between videos. It happens.
Ray it might be a good idea to sell those commercials sinks because even used sinks can bring in good money because new ones are very expensive. That is money that you can use to help get a lift for that side.
There are companies that buy commercial sinks and related food service equipment, quite sure one near you with a search on the internet. It looks like the former tenant used the space for a food catering service. Also be very careful as to any possible gas lines and electrical lines in that space.
When I owned my auto shop this is the thing I hated most about waiting too long for parts is with so much going on you could forget something. Still do that in my construction biz if we have to pull off for a bit. I take notes as reminders now. lol
Hey, at least making the video helped you see the issue. People might think recording is a distraction but I can see so many ways in your videos how it can actually help, like being an extra set of eyes, or helping you see into areas you can't get your noggin into. You make amazing and educational videos and I am super grateful for them. I know from watching your videos that you try your best to get a good angle so that we can see what is going on, but once you start working you are focused on your work and oftentimes don't realize the camera has shifted. You do your best and I appreciate it. I wish the solution wasn't to have to drop the whole tank again just for one connector, but it happens. And I still cringe seeing those videos of people who cut up their vehicle to get to the fuel pump without dropping the tank. We were fortunate that my first car had an actual access for it inside the vehicle because we had to change it after a few years of owning it.
Small suggestion. That cheap metal. Save a square. If you have to break out the blue wrench. (Torch) You can use it as a heat shield to protect something you don't want to cook. Like the bottom of the car burning exhaust off a rust bucket so you don't burn the carpet.
I have changed these units before. Did you know that you can just change the fuel pump motor itself rather than changing the whole unit? As long as the sending unit is working properly then the motor itself is all that needs changed. You can buy just the OEM pump motor for 1/3 of the cost that was spent on that whole unit that you ordered.
That's a good point, and in the DIY situation where labor is free and time is cheap, it might be reasonable. Given that the whole part was not available, I wondered if he'd do that. However when you're paying a lot for a technicians time, and he needs to guarantee his work, the economic scale is tipped in favor of replacing it all. What a misadventure it would be if the fuel level sensor were to fail six months later, and you had to pay all of that labor again.
So i assembled a grill my daughters gifted me for Christmas, since their mother passed.and i followed your instructions to the tee. Finger tightening, and then crossing the bolts for even pressure
Yes I saw and heard a blue clip fall down to your right. It would’ve difficult for you to see it as it was a small clip that fell next to the lip of the tank. Loving your Shop Ray. Good going b
What a pain!! No longer a diy project to replacing a simple fuel pump like on my 1958 Ranchero w/ a 292 w/312 heads. Those were the days when simple repairs could be done on the side of the road. 😢
You never reconnected that interior hose (reference 29:30 time in the first video) that you had to remove from the sending unit before removing it .....
OH NO! A mistake right at the apex of re-assembly! Those hurt! =I can bet you that you are not the first person to do that on that pump assembly. The question that is really going to bake your noodle is: Would you have still missed that detail if you had the correct part initially, and had been able to complete the repair without a few days interruption?
I almost guarantee you that it was the delay that caused him to forget that hose. I don't even know what that hose is for, I doubt it's standard. Easy to forget if it's been a day or two.
@@zachkroeger444 I learned if I have to let something sit for a bit I take pictures of the disassembly, and then review them again before I reassemble. Been there done that. 🙂
I watched the first half episode and just caught the last. Awesome video, learned a lot. Keep doing it the right way and you'll always have a successful business. Quality work at a fair price equals a successful business. Thanks 👍
You forgot to hook up a line but that’s a simple mistake and easy to fix with a lift and a trans jack, try doing this on flat ground in your driveway it’s quite a bit more fun to do as you have little room to maneuver, it’s a fun day
A note of caution regarding the sheet metal exhaust hood - make sure the fire suppression system is locked out and/or removed before dismantling it (I know I saw a fire pull station in a previous video). Failure to do so could result in a messy dump of the fire suppression system.
I accidentally trip the fire suspension system at the place I worked boss was cool as it wasn't entirely my fault thank god lol Not cheap to clean up or reset lol
For Ray and everyone that felt there were too many clips, too many hoses, clips were too hard to access, etc. That happens because RAM was making sure their new truck had a 5 star crash rating, which they did achieve. The fuel tank and all of the components are a huge part of the rating since the fuel tank can become dislodged during a significant crash. Anyway, keep everything in mind when saying engineers do this just to make our lives miserable. There is a reason for everything we/they do...
You can't stop the feeling. Sometimes you have to be brave enough to try. Than be willing to take a deep breath and make some adjustments if you fail the first time. Good luck sir with your channel.
The only thing I caught that might bring this rig back was the missed clamp on the evap hose. Unless you clicked it off camera. Either way good on you for catching it and being willing to make it right. Good job brother.
Might want to save some of the concrete blocks for filling in the window, and other uses like future wall repairs and temporary storage blocks for cars in the lot.
I loved you use of the "calibrated Vibrometer" to get that tank seal to seat! While you went tapa tapa tapa, I was thinking of that old adage, "when all else fails...get a bigger hammer!
Interesting that the owner was able to locate a pump on the shelf at a dealership, given that Ray was told by his local dealership that waiting on national back order was the only option. I thought that dealers had their own internal parts network, so they could look up stock levels at all other dealers in the country. I'm sure Mopar has that ability.
Hi Ray, 4:56 of this video, your air compressor turned off, automictically (I assume.) It did not activate the pressure relief valve (unless you edited it out,) on the compressor, so when you draw-down the pressure to the point the air compressor kick's back on, it will do so with / at the predetermined (FULL) kick-on pressure. Great way to instantly kill / fry, your electric motor. Your motor is supposed to kick-on / start with zero pressure, build up pressure to the point that it over comes / causes the "Check-Valve," to open and then allowing air to go into / enter the tank.
Honestly, it seems a little nuts that the pump failed so early. With cost of vehicles getting so ridiculously high, you'd think quality would be going up as well. Good work Ray.
I can't dispute that the quality of parts has been declining but to look at it another way perhaps a given acceptable rate of a defective part has been realized. Perhaps a distinction without a difference.
Ray, I have been watching you for probably 8 months and absolutely love your channel. Have watched most of your videos. I just want to thank you as you have given me the inspiration to start my own car channel. I'm not up yet, but figure maybe in a couple weeks. Starting on my 65 T Bird, although living in Minnesnowta, temps are rough right now, even with a heater. Recording at 5 degrees isn't really too much fun. Gonna try to make it work though. Thanks again.
I had a good laugh while watching with the old man about the flashing on the expansion space. Was it like a mob butcher shop or something beforehand? lol. Gotta fire up a T-Shirt that says Ray's Steaks & Brakes. 😂
Whip cream on your coffee? Surely you don't drink fu fu coffee. Creme an sugar okay any thing else is fu fu. Did not see you put front hose on fuel tank.
it's a dodgey dodge, they terminals and wiring evaporate into green crust in the blink of an eye. Chrysler/Dodge/Mopar pioneered failing electrical and electronics many years ago, the classic 440 with "lean burn" system anyone? coughs, showing my age?
Look into getting an Autel scanner. South Main Auto uses a bunch of different scanners depending on manufacturer. I think he's pretty much abandoned his Snap-On one because he disliked it so much.
Great content as always Ray. Thanks. Couple of items to note. All of that metal has value at the scrap yard. At a minimum around 5 cents a pound for what is called "shredder tin" which is mostly ferrous metal. True non-magnetic stainless steel is worth more, and as someone else has already pointed out, those sinks are definitely worth a significant chunk of money. I was surprised you didn't coat the O-ring on the pump/sending unit with vaseline to make installing the lock ring easier.
Vaseline is a bad idea on a silicone seal. The brake parts lube is better and so is red rubber grease that wont degrade the seal like Vaseline does to condoms which is a similar LaTeX type seal
I'm an old Guy but learn something every time i watch you Videos. Now, I'm not gonna use that knowledge as i don't have any patience for mechanic work, but it's helpful for sure. Keep up the good work Ray.
3:47 MISTAKE IS RIGHT THERE. Forgot to remember about the Plastic Line that was connected inside the fuel tank for Emission. YES, vehicle will still run but the EMISSION will be like.....................
I went to a Wawa for the first time in Virgina Beach just before you get into North Carolina and instantly fell in love with that place. Love their steak, egg, and cheese Ranchero burrito. They are expanding into my state and cannot wait!
The only thing i possibly caught, and it may have seated correctly is the fuel pump oring, I couldnt tell if it was seated or was peaking out under the pump when you got the ring on.
I agree. I have the same truck in white, and it's a Limited, and it runs, drives and puts a smile on my face every day!!! Rides so dang good it's crazy.
when i replaced the fuel pump on my 88 jeep Cherokee i drained the tank with a squeeze type kerosene hand pump i got from home depo .made the job so much better .
The new shop space is coming along nicely...glad some friends helped, looked like a lot of work man! My son-in-law has a wonderful 2019 Ram truck with 69,500 miles...I already advised him to keep a plastic mallet in the truck and why...but he has had zero problems so far and it drives and rides great. Enjoyed this video a lot, thanks for more learnings!!!
My friend told me when he was going to change the fuel pump on my truck. I have a Silverado same era as yours. He said the easiest way is just to take off the bed. Lower the truck down and work on the tank
Hey Ray. Question for ya. Do you think manufacturers are designing these tanks to be serviced by removing the bed as opposed to the typical way that you and I do it of dropping the tank out of the truck? With all the evap stuff and connections that you can barely reach. It almost makes better sense to take the bed off if the truck isn't rusty. What do ya think?
That would necessitate a change to their manufacturing process for cars. They all use the same designs. Not saying it can't be done, just that it isn't a simple change, and it will add extra cost to the manufacturing process.
@@williameldridge9382 Not at all. I've pulled many beds to service fuel pumps when the straps looked rusted solid. It looks like they've already gone that direction. Not being able to get to the evap ports easily and having to blind plug in the connectors.
S.G.M. ( Secure gateway module) mentioned on the strap-on scanner. The dealer level programming tool is a micropod 3 and requires $3600++ subscription every 2 years. That tool wouldn't open up the gateway access to the obd2 port. Not needed. There is a bypass cable That allows you to get full access to the network By plugging into one of the star connectors. I prefer to have the tool That also bypasses jeeps compass and renegade. It has a radio frequency hub connector as well. Any time you're trying to execute commands in 2018+ F.C.A. You need to get administrative access to the network. I use it all the time to program smart keys. Many video on here show its plug-in locations.
Ray, you spoil us with videos every day. Just saying thanks for a great adventure on a site where there's no cursing someone else's ability or political views. You give us insight on things we might want to attempt ourselves given a little confidence .
I've done this job a few times. Last time I did it was on my 2000 Silverado. I found an article from a guy who suggested removing the bed. I decided to try it for myself. It worked out really well in my opinion. My official opinion is for DYI 'rs if you don't have a lift it's somewhat easier but not significant enough to say it's the only way to go. I'd say if I had a lift I'd probably just use the dropping the tank method, although it's easier disconnecting and reconnecting everything with the bed off the truck.
Seems to me it might be easier to remove the bed than drop the tank. A few bolts, couple of electrical connectors, filler tube and everything's in plain sight.
@@mauryd3444 Look elsewhere in these comments for an explanation about why mechanic shops typically don't remove body panels unless there is no other way.
I read something really interesting about very successful people in business. Its called decision overload, and over time is exhausting. You’ve got many balls in the air and I completely understand. Retired now, I’ve raised my 3sons and been in business for 35+. Do yourself a huge favour and get an daily organizer (includes planning etc.) It will allow you to focus on tasks,, when your fixing cars, you’ll be relaxing in work mode and enjoying your trade. I found the busier I got with the other things, I didn’t enjoy just doing my work as much. Enjoy you vids a lot, and You and wife unit are doing great. Best wishes 2023..gonna be great.
NOT a Clickbait title, I’m going to have to remove the tank again. There’s a detail that I forgot and I didn’t realize until after editing the footage. Did you spot my error? It’s hard to see.
plastic pipe in fuel tank to pump.
fuel line to the pump inside the tank. ups and I was noooo.
Ray, I'm going to send you Black Out coffee, since ya know, it's a Florida based company and I'll send you a coffee maker. It'll save you tons of money and you can make your own drinks.😉👍🏻
You love your job so much, you do it twice
@@jasonj8740 As long as it's not Black Rifle coffee. Black Rifle coffee is trash pretending to have conservative values, but turns around and trashes Trump supporters. The beans are mediocre anyways.
Coffee doesn’t have whip cream or all that other stuff to make a cup like $4-$6. Coffee is ground coffee beans and hot water. No sugar, cream, or other foo foo stuff.Speaking as a recently retired CW4 in the Army
My son is a CAT® Tech / mechanic changed the oil in my Tundra® (my wife-unit says that I am too old to be crawling under automobiles anymore and hospital visits are getting more expensive) and after completing the job , he used an air nozzle and cleaned all the leaves from the vents and didn't even try to up-sale me a fuel injector cleaning. I tipped him a buck ($1) for his extra service and honesty.😉👍
Having everything on video is a good tool, you can go back and see where things go or in this case, the internal line you missed to connect.
Rainman Ray's Repairs.. You either have to have to subscription or the bypass connector to bypass the SGM Security Gateway Module. when not using a factory scan tool on 2018 and up Chrysler products.. Also unless you didn't show it on video you may have forgot to hook up the fuel line inside the tank..
I spotted every mistake you made but what mattered most to me was that you didn't pretend you didn't make a mistake, you caught your mistake, you admitted your mistake, and you corrected your mistake sending a quality repair down the road.
I don't trust anyone to service my vehicles so I service my own vehicles but I've been watching your videos an you have earned my trust to service my vehicles.
I'm glad I subscribed to your channel, keep up the good work an stay safe!
You didn’t hook the hose up inside! I’ve made that mistake before, I learn more from my mistakes than I do my successes. Redo!!!
Ray you are the best when in tight places. Nice Job, didn't catch the mistake. Does anybody remember when a fuel tank was metal, had a fuel line, a vent, and a filler hose, and the pump was on the engine? Good grief!
...and the tank was behind the fold forward bench seat in the cab...
@@ronaldfulton1175 Yeah, kind of freaky when you think about it.
4:10 Wasn't there a connector to mate inside the tank? 😲
Bingo
Harbor Freight, and a few places on the internet, have LED shop lights that resemble the florescent shop lights. They work very, very, well and give lots of light for very little electrical current use. They also, at this time, have no failure rate as LEDs generally do not burn out unless an over voltage situation occurs. These lights are very reasonable in cost and are easy to install. They come equipped with an accessory 120v outlet for tools or daisy chain. A line of lights can be easily be hooked to one switch. Additionally each light has its own switch.
You're a good guy Ray. I would have dropped that damn drive shaft. More space. Less room for error. I work on my own stuff. First rule. Make plenty of work space. I don't care how much stuff gets removed. No lift or special tools. I have only one chance to get it right
I had a ram 2017 1500 with a shift nob for about a year now, and today is the day that I learned about the neutral release on my truck. Thank you for that random info that you just threw in there.
Bummer, missed the connector inside the tank!
I believe you are correct. Didn't see him either make the connection when he installed the new unit. Good catch.
What connecter inside the tank? I've done more than a few of those...but not in the last 5 yrs. ....what changed
Newer Chrysler vehicles have a security module that prevents non-Chrysler scan tools from writing info to the computers through the OBD port.
I always just pull the quick disconnect for the pickup bed and remove it, gives easy access to the fuel take, driveline and other stuff.
Rainman Ray.......w/out a doubt, the best one handed wrench turner in America!
Ray every nut and bolt is important it's not boring. So satisfying seeing clips, clip in ,bolts bolt in and new parts finished off, great stuff loving it.... Andy Uk
R A Y!!...yes you missed the line in the tank but WORSE is driving the ring without using a brass punch rather than a ''sparkable'' steel one....KABOOOOOM!
Not likely...been doing it that way for 50 yrs.....metal tanks even before all this plastic crap!
Sucks you have to redo all that work. After watching all you went through with that tank, I am realizing how easy I had it when I removed the back seat of my old car to change the pump. At the time I thought it was a major pain in the backside.
You did that tank the hard way. GM Tech Center had us raise the driver side of the box for access to the pump modules. No risk of dropping a tank full of fuel by trying to balance it on a trans jack. I'm a retired auto tech, 47 years on the job.
Bringing ethics and character back to mechanicing with every video man. I'm a physician but I enjoy learning from you and respect your regard for "doing the right thing." Don't ever go to corporate Healthcare - they routinely don't do the correct thing.
Corporate and healthcare are two words that just don’t belong together. And it’s not going to get any better anytime soon.
@@odinmaximus5768 I believe you're correct
The trusted Doc I have is one that doesn't take insurance (any insurance) you pay cash and you pay by the minute.... He is a great Doc who cares greatly for his patients, He is far more superior then most Docs as well as a damn sight cheaper.... :) Additional note.... "corporate Docs hate him"
@@johnhenryholiday4964 sounds like a guy I aim to emulate.
what is 'corporate healthcare'?
You forgot to hook that hose up inside the tank my brother I'm over here yelling at the phone as your reassembling the pump in the tank don't forget to hook to line up don't forget to hook to line up LOL keep up the good work bud
That's nice. A major increase to your shop working space. It's all coming together for you Ray, don't give up on your dream. It will just keep getting better and better.
Should add another door.
No more doodlie doos anymore, but there is the train whistle occasionally.
Embossed metal could possibly be recycled on restroom walls and lower door (restroom) kick panel ,makes easy clean, just a suggestion.Nice big shop area, cant wait to see your vision realized.
Good idea when you got people running around with grubby little fingers have a great day
Yes I caught it ,evac line on the pump internal was not connected . Actually went back to the other video to see if if I remembered correctly . No matter you caught it
I have had the same problem and have replaced mine myself, but my car has had a hole under the rear seats for direct access, so everything was very easy. Congratulations, this was not easy. It is hard not to make mistake here...
Even professionals make errors. What makes you a pro, is the way you admit and fix them correctly.
what I've done in the past was remove the driveshaft .It gives you so much more unbelievable room .
It’s easy to Monday morning quarter back this because I watched both videos back to back, easy to spot. Where as you had time between videos. It happens.
Ray it might be a good idea to sell those commercials sinks because even used sinks can bring in good money because new ones are very expensive. That is money that you can use to help get a lift for that side.
I used to work for a company that built those for bars and commercial kitchens. Ridiculously expensive.
Yes, they're a great size
There are companies that buy commercial sinks and related food service equipment, quite sure one near you with a search on the internet. It looks like the former tenant used the space for a food catering service. Also be very careful as to any possible gas lines and electrical lines in that space.
Or use the sinks for wash, degreaser tanks.
I was thinking that as well. Good thing to point out. I hope Ray thinks to check out companies that will buy used restaurant equipment.
Hose inside tank. Great catch before it becomes a customer complaint!
Watching you work make me so glad to be an electrician!
Same here; working in such tight spots freaks me out.
When I owned my auto shop this is the thing I hated most about waiting too long for parts is with so much going on you could forget something. Still do that in my construction biz if we have to pull off for a bit. I take notes as reminders now. lol
Man that absence of wall and roof configuration makes a big difference in your shop I hope it works out for you I love it
Hey, at least making the video helped you see the issue. People might think recording is a distraction but I can see so many ways in your videos how it can actually help, like being an extra set of eyes, or helping you see into areas you can't get your noggin into. You make amazing and educational videos and I am super grateful for them. I know from watching your videos that you try your best to get a good angle so that we can see what is going on, but once you start working you are focused on your work and oftentimes don't realize the camera has shifted. You do your best and I appreciate it.
I wish the solution wasn't to have to drop the whole tank again just for one connector, but it happens. And I still cringe seeing those videos of people who cut up their vehicle to get to the fuel pump without dropping the tank. We were fortunate that my first car had an actual access for it inside the vehicle because we had to change it after a few years of owning it.
Great to see how much space you've gained by taking out that wall.. Looking forward to see it when it's finished.. Keep up the great work Ray..
Small suggestion. That cheap metal. Save a square. If you have to break out the blue wrench. (Torch) You can use it as a heat shield to protect something you don't want to cook. Like the bottom of the car burning exhaust off a rust bucket so you don't burn the carpet.
I have changed these units before. Did you know that you can just change the fuel pump motor itself rather than changing the whole unit? As long as the sending unit is working properly then the motor itself is all that needs changed. You can buy just the OEM pump motor for 1/3 of the cost that was spent on that whole unit that you ordered.
As was endlessly pointed out in the comments of the previous video, not all fuel pumps allow just the motor module to be replaced.
and when you're a shop that warranties your work, you replace the whole unit, so you don't have a customer coming back with another issue.
He specifically addressed why he couldn't do that in the last video.
Yeah that would be a way to go...unless they made 10 different electric motors eight wire variable speed altitude adjusted temp boost...etc.
That's a good point, and in the DIY situation where labor is free and time is cheap, it might be reasonable. Given that the whole part was not available, I wondered if he'd do that. However when you're paying a lot for a technicians time, and he needs to guarantee his work, the economic scale is tipped in favor of replacing it all. What a misadventure it would be if the fuel level sensor were to fail six months later, and you had to pay all of that labor again.
So i assembled a grill my daughters gifted me for Christmas, since their mother passed.and i followed your instructions to the tee. Finger tightening, and then crossing the bolts for even pressure
could you use the large sink in the remodeling section as a solvent cleaning tank, just a suggestion
Yes I saw and heard a blue clip fall down to your right. It would’ve difficult for you to see it as it was a small clip that fell next to the lip of the tank. Loving your Shop Ray. Good going b
Shop is looking great with that wall removed. Project Expansion coming along nicely.
What a pain!! No longer a diy project to replacing a simple fuel pump like on my 1958 Ranchero w/ a 292 w/312 heads. Those were the days when simple repairs could be done on the side of the road. 😢
If it's worth doing, it's worth doing twice! It happens to the best of us now and again. Glad you caught it.
You never reconnected that interior hose (reference 29:30 time in the first video) that you had to remove from the sending unit before removing it .....
OH NO! A mistake right at the apex of re-assembly! Those hurt! =I can bet you that you are not the first person to do that on that pump assembly. The question that is really going to bake your noodle is: Would you have still missed that detail if you had the correct part initially, and had been able to complete the repair without a few days interruption?
I almost guarantee you that it was the delay that caused him to forget that hose. I don't even know what that hose is for, I doubt it's standard. Easy to forget if it's been a day or two.
@@zachkroeger444 I learned if I have to let something sit for a bit I take pictures of the disassembly, and then review them again before I reassemble. Been there done that. 🙂
Your ability to aim camera and work is impeccable.
I watched the first half episode and just caught the last. Awesome video, learned a lot. Keep doing it the right way and you'll always have a successful business. Quality work at a fair price equals a successful business. Thanks 👍
You forgot to hook up a line but that’s a simple mistake and easy to fix with a lift and a trans jack, try doing this on flat ground in your driveway it’s quite a bit more fun to do as you have little room to maneuver, it’s a fun day
A note of caution regarding the sheet metal exhaust hood - make sure the fire suppression system is locked out and/or removed before dismantling it (I know I saw a fire pull station in a previous video). Failure to do so could result in a messy dump of the fire suppression system.
I accidentally trip the fire suspension system at the place I worked boss was cool as it wasn't entirely my fault thank god lol
Not cheap to clean up or reset lol
Yeah you forgot the hose inside of the fuel tank to hook up
For Ray and everyone that felt there were too many clips, too many hoses, clips were too hard to access, etc. That happens because RAM was making sure their new truck had a 5 star crash rating, which they did achieve. The fuel tank and all of the components are a huge part of the rating since the fuel tank can become dislodged during a significant crash. Anyway, keep everything in mind when saying engineers do this just to make our lives miserable. There is a reason for everything we/they do...
Ray: "Love my job so much, I'll do it twice..."
"One foreshadowing later..." 🤪
You can't stop the feeling. Sometimes you have to be brave enough to try. Than be willing to take a deep breath and make some adjustments if you fail the first time. Good luck sir with your channel.
Awesome Ray. The shop expansion is coming along nicely.
The only thing I caught that might bring this rig back was the missed clamp on the evap hose. Unless you clicked it off camera. Either way good on you for catching it and being willing to make it right. Good job brother.
Might want to save some of the concrete blocks for filling in the window, and other uses like future wall repairs and temporary storage blocks for cars in the lot.
In Florida, concrete blocks are only used under vehicles in residential neighborhoods.😎
I've used concrete blocks to fill in a huge window. They're incredibly cheap. The concrete to fill them and make a solid wall cost more.
@@joemuncie9187 - and more secure (and termite proof) than wood frame and plywood.
@@549BR 👍
I loved you use of the "calibrated Vibrometer" to get that tank seal to seat! While you went tapa tapa tapa, I was thinking of that old adage, "when all else fails...get a bigger hammer!
Interesting that the owner was able to locate a pump on the shelf at a dealership, given that Ray was told by his local dealership that waiting on national back order was the only option. I thought that dealers had their own internal parts network, so they could look up stock levels at all other dealers in the country. I'm sure Mopar has that ability.
In my experience with trying to get parts for my Jeep, only some dealerships will check stock at other dealerships.
A dealer will typically not sell a nbo part to another dealer, and many times will not sell it over thr counter either. Customer got lucky.
Hi Ray, 4:56 of this video, your air compressor turned off, automictically (I assume.) It did not activate the pressure relief valve (unless you edited it out,) on the compressor, so when you draw-down the pressure to the point the air compressor kick's back on, it will do so with / at the predetermined (FULL) kick-on pressure. Great way to instantly kill / fry, your electric motor. Your motor is supposed to kick-on / start with zero pressure, build up pressure to the point that it over comes / causes the "Check-Valve," to open and then allowing air to go into / enter the tank.
Honestly, it seems a little nuts that the pump failed so early. With cost of vehicles getting so ridiculously high, you'd think quality would be going up as well. Good work Ray.
People like to run trucks and cars on empty which makes pumps suck in air and burn themselves out.
Quality seems to be on the decline. Bean counters run it all, parts are made much more cheaply.
I can't dispute that the quality of parts has been declining but to look at it another way perhaps a given acceptable rate of a defective part has been realized. Perhaps a distinction without a difference.
The inverse is true. Mercedes brand is a recent example.
Prices go up, quality goes down and the only people happy are the shareholders and executives whose pay is tied to share price.
i just realized you were scanning for the scanner ... lol
Ray, I have been watching you for probably 8 months and absolutely love your channel. Have watched most of your videos. I just want to thank you as you have given me the inspiration to start my own car channel. I'm not up yet, but figure maybe in a couple weeks. Starting on my 65 T Bird, although living in Minnesnowta, temps are rough right now, even with a heater. Recording at 5 degrees isn't really too much fun. Gonna try to make it work though. Thanks again.
Record in those temperature to show how tough it is. Even do home heating mods to save money and manage would be fun to watch
It is amazing that after watching your vids for a while that a simple click is sooo satisfying.
I had a good laugh while watching with the old man about the flashing on the expansion space. Was it like a mob butcher shop or something beforehand? lol. Gotta fire up a T-Shirt that says Ray's Steaks & Brakes. 😂
Looks like the stuff on a roach coach to me lol.
Whip cream on your coffee? Surely you don't drink fu fu coffee. Creme an sugar okay any thing else is fu fu. Did not see you put front hose on fuel tank.
I think the building was a roach coach motel at some point
@@hirisk761, A no tell motel?
Fuel pumps. I loved the glass dome that was part of the motor (engine) - back in the day. The dome told so much at a glance as to petrol (gas)
Yes, time for a oil change video sure… but what’s really overdue is a proper battery terminal clean! 😅
Ask ivan. Pretty important sometimes
Maybe do tire patching for 14 days....do a coupon ...4 patches for the price of one.
it's a dodgey dodge, they terminals and wiring evaporate into green crust in the blink of an eye.
Chrysler/Dodge/Mopar pioneered failing electrical and electronics many years ago, the classic 440 with "lean burn" system anyone? coughs, showing my age?
Look into getting an Autel scanner. South Main Auto uses a bunch of different scanners depending on manufacturer. I think he's pretty much abandoned his Snap-On one because he disliked it so much.
Great content as always Ray. Thanks. Couple of items to note. All of that metal has value at the scrap yard. At a minimum around 5 cents a pound for what is called "shredder tin" which is mostly ferrous metal. True non-magnetic stainless steel is worth more, and as someone else has already pointed out, those sinks are definitely worth a significant chunk of money. I was surprised you didn't coat the O-ring on the pump/sending unit with vaseline to make installing the lock ring easier.
Vaseline is a bad idea on a silicone seal. The brake parts lube is better and so is red rubber grease that wont degrade the seal like Vaseline does to condoms which is a similar LaTeX type seal
@@iHelpSolveIt Actually, gasoline is far harsher than Vaseline as a solvent. If the seal can handle gasoline it can handle Vaseline. Jus saying.
I'm an old Guy but learn something every time i watch you Videos. Now, I'm not gonna use that knowledge as i don't have any patience for mechanic work, but it's helpful for sure. Keep up the good work Ray.
What about the internal pipe connection within the tank Ray? It appears you didn’t reconnect it. Love your videos, such a great “can do” work ethic 😊
Huh?
@@549BR
Check the video taking it apart….
he missed it that’s the reason for the video’s title
Good catch! I was thinking it was one of the exterior connections....forgot about that connection inside the tank.
Happens to a lot of us tie a piece of string to it after disconcerting it if you have to wait for parts the string hanging out will remind you
3:47 MISTAKE IS RIGHT THERE. Forgot to remember about the Plastic Line that was connected inside the fuel tank for Emission. YES, vehicle will still run but the EMISSION will be like.....................
Shop is coming along nicely 👍
Can’t beat the wife as an office helper! When I was in that situation, I could have never paid her enough.
We all make mistakes but only honest people admit it .I didn’t spot what you missed,👍👍 to you Ray.
The hose inside of the fuel tank that connects to the module
@@2491kridge That's a yiker!
@@TheFrenchPug NOooo !
I didn't catch it either... unless he was talking about the red and blue clips that he DIDN'T miss....
@2491kridge Nice catch.... I missed it!
I went to a Wawa for the first time in Virgina Beach just before you get into North Carolina and instantly fell in love with that place. Love their steak, egg, and cheese Ranchero burrito. They are expanding into my state and cannot wait!
The only thing i possibly caught, and it may have seated correctly is the fuel pump oring, I couldnt tell if it was seated or was peaking out under the pump when you got the ring on.
careless, that is why he chiseled it tight.
Great operation Dr. Ray. Patient is now in great health and in working order.
good day to you Ray another outstanding video love to see you working on all cars but the most important thing is to have yourself a great day
Had exact same truck (just bright red) for 2 years, loved every second of it. 😎
I agree. I have the same truck in white, and it's a Limited, and it runs, drives and puts a smile on my face every day!!! Rides so dang good it's crazy.
Might be a good idea to take a look inside the tank, just make sure there isn't any debris or anything that killed the old pump.
when i replaced the fuel pump on my 88 jeep Cherokee i drained the tank with a squeeze type kerosene hand pump i got from home depo .made the job so much better .
The new shop space is coming along nicely...glad some friends helped, looked like a lot of work man! My son-in-law has a wonderful 2019 Ram truck with 69,500 miles...I already advised him to keep a plastic mallet in the truck and why...but he has had zero problems so far and it drives and rides great. Enjoyed this video a lot, thanks for more learnings!!!
My friend told me when he was going to change the fuel pump on my truck. I have a Silverado same era as yours. He said the easiest way is just to take off the bed. Lower the truck down and work on the tank
Hey Ray. Question for ya. Do you think manufacturers are designing these tanks to be serviced by removing the bed as opposed to the typical way that you and I do it of dropping the tank out of the truck? With all the evap stuff and connections that you can barely reach. It almost makes better sense to take the bed off if the truck isn't rusty. What do ya think?
That would necessitate a change to their manufacturing process for cars. They all use the same designs. Not saying it can't be done, just that it isn't a simple change, and it will add extra cost to the manufacturing process.
@@williameldridge9382 Not at all. I've pulled many beds to service fuel pumps when the straps looked rusted solid. It looks like they've already gone that direction. Not being able to get to the evap ports easily and having to blind plug in the connectors.
Thankkk you for showing how to put those into Neutral!
Shop is going to be great with that extra space. 👍🏼
Ray complaining about the lack of whip cream cap made my week. Thanks Ray
I’m sure I risk getting “canceled”for saying this but that tranny jack is super useful. Great video Ray.
WaWa came down to Fla...skipped the stuff in between...WaWa...is BIG in Pa and jersey, 3 within 5 miles of my house, and everyone is always busy...
What a pain to reach all that stuff.
S.G.M. ( Secure gateway module) mentioned on the strap-on scanner. The dealer level programming tool is a micropod 3 and requires $3600++ subscription every 2 years. That tool wouldn't open up the gateway access to the obd2 port. Not needed.
There is a bypass cable That allows you to get full access to the network By plugging into one of the star connectors. I prefer to have the tool That also bypasses jeeps compass and renegade. It has a radio frequency hub connector as well. Any time you're trying to execute commands in 2018+ F.C.A. You need to get administrative access to the network. I use it all the time to program smart keys. Many video on here show its plug-in locations.
When the train whistle blows you should go do-do-doho!
Ray, you spoil us with videos every day. Just saying thanks for a great adventure on a site where there's no cursing someone else's ability or political views. You give us insight on things we might want to attempt ourselves given a little confidence .
Pouring the gas back in the tank was almost as neat as a spill proof gas can.
F those new style gas can spouts
@@kylelambert1672 They suck bad.
I've done this job a few times. Last time I did it was on my 2000 Silverado. I found an article from a guy who suggested removing the bed. I decided to try it for myself. It worked out really well in my opinion. My official opinion is for DYI 'rs if you don't have a lift it's somewhat easier but not significant enough to say it's the only way to go. I'd say if I had a lift I'd probably just use the dropping the tank method, although it's easier disconnecting and reconnecting everything with the bed off the truck.
I have also had to do a fuel pump on a couple of my Chevys and removing the bed is quite easy and you don't have to disconnect so many fuel lines.
How old does a truck have to be before it is easier to cut a hole in the bed to change a fuel pump?
I wouldn't say it has anything to do with age, but the condition of the bed itself. If it's in good condition I wouldn't even consider that.
Seems to me it might be easier to remove the bed than drop the tank. A few bolts, couple of electrical connectors, filler tube and everything's in plain sight.
@@mauryd3444 Look elsewhere in these comments for an explanation about why mechanic shops typically don't remove body panels unless there is no other way.
When it's so old you don't feel the need to repair a fender bender.
We'll find out if the original pump ever quits in my 98 Ram! One more hole won't even be noticeable!
i hear a tom macdonald song going on in the background i do believe the song is called "the System" @21.31
I was sitting there like Raaaaay nooooooo don't start driving that ring on. FML. We all forget things some times.
I read something really interesting about very successful people in business. Its called decision overload, and over time is exhausting.
You’ve got many balls in the air and I completely understand. Retired now, I’ve raised my 3sons and been in business for 35+. Do yourself a huge favour and get an daily organizer (includes planning etc.)
It will allow you to focus on tasks,, when your fixing cars, you’ll be relaxing in work mode and enjoying your trade.
I found the busier I got with the other things, I didn’t enjoy just doing my work as much. Enjoy you vids a lot, and You and wife unit are doing great. Best wishes 2023..gonna be great.