Does losing a rap battle mean you should stop making music for fans? Jay-Z didn’t stop after Ether. Meek didn’t stop after Back to Back. Why should Drake?
Drake is desperate because his veneer of being the guy is gone…his music will still be on top of the charts but he’s grasping for culture acceptance and validation. The Kendrick line that applies here is “only you like being famous”…this makes sense, Drake should have taken 5 months off, come back with a new album, do some interviews and go on tour, it would be better than him doing wah wah deliah, doing 2 songs with racist Camila cabello, and a wack song with sexy red
Tbh Ak aka the biggest drake glazer said it himself “When u think about Meek battle, meek should’ve won that too but he ain’t know how to take Drake into the deep waters. He had the most ammo & instead of rapping it, he tweeted it out. Pusha & Kendrick had less ammo but took drake to the deep waters & drake couldn’t swim with them….he knew those guys had more records to go” & Ak was right
Fact. 😂 Ak said he blames Meek for Drake current predicament coz if he had focused and beaten Drake, Drake wouldn’t have engaged the beef with Kendrick
By not making music he's staying out of the spotlight so people will forget about him. It also gives him time to reflect. It's a smart move. You can wait until people start checking for you and then drop a project.
He needs to make a conceptual album for once. An album that goes deep and hard like Nothing was the same. This nonsense gimmicks on social media is not it
He doesnt have that depth as a writer. He is musically a good writer.... he can rap... but his range with his pen as a writer in the rap space is really limited.
I think you guys aren’t really intouch with the streets and they never lose. Ny radio and clubs are already playing drake new music and said they’re not trading kdot for him until he makes good music like drake. Not like us was a moment getting played out now. I like kdot but be honest drake makes better songs and he’s proving it right now trending.
He is not making new choices compared to before. I agree it shows a lack of comprehension and fails to translate his errors to a different way of presenting himself. But I think that's only a tiny portion of the problem. Kendrick created a cultural blueprint on his (+ OVO) undeniable Modus Operandi, which is being used to scrutinize these same actions. In short, we are measuring the same actions from before with a new ruleset, rules that prove the problematic disconnect between the culture and him as an artist
Damn it fam…EXACTLY what is happening in the culture. We have recalibrated as a matter of urgency here. Drake is JUST a great music maker and now most all of us can see that’s different from being a great rapper or high level lyricist that respects the culture, and that the culture respects.
I don’t understand why he should stop being himself? He drops music every summer. He lost a beef, bro always loses beefs, he stay taking L’s. Why change?
@@mrworkowt5419 that’s a weird assumption to make. Y’all don’t know him personally. You don’t know how this beef is affecting him cause he hasn’t said anything. His actions indicate the opposite of what you think cause he’s doing what he always does.
I can guarantee if Drake disappeared for 6 months, You’ll say “Kendrick made Drake retire”. He’s always dropped music consistently, quality might not always be top tier , but he’s never not been active. Why should he change it because he lost a battle to someone less commercially successful than he is? He’s not Kendrick, and Kendrick can’t be him. No one has been as successful as him yet everyone wants to give him advice, just enjoy or not enjoy the music.
@@RedJackkk I’m the one coping but you brought Abel into this 😂. I’m a Dot fan but you new Dot fans are weirdos. I’m stating Drake is going to do what Drake does, and Kendrick will do what Kendrick does and ironically you’re in your feelings. Kendrick is not as successful as Drake and that’s facts
@@XoXo_XoTK2 everyone cares about commercial success to an extent. Don’t lie to yourself , there are more talented singers than Rihanna yet he chose Rihanna for Loyalty, Chose Summer Walker for Purple Hearts. If you think he does music not to sell records and not to be successful then you’re a liar, maybe he’s managed to preserve a lot of the art and heart of it but he also is commercially successful just not as much as Drake. And that’s okay
As a business owner in sales I've used Drakes method to feel out my customers. It feels like this is what he is doing,. Money wise he's outta here he says so may not matter what he does. Y'all say he not for the culture then waste time examining uncultured shit. It could be just what it is, a product test. I'm sure Drake drops what and when he wants. Us commoners may not ever understand but that man is a business that feeds a lot of people. The beef is over. He lost. Lets move on.
… bro is doubling down on what he’s always done and yall people with mics can’t see it. If drake acts different than before the beef you sold attribute it to Kendrick..
He’s not gonna go away if you if you get in a fight at work or you lose a argument or a battle rap, you don’t just disappear You have to get your ass back at work or rap again the dumbest thing he can do is disappear he has to keep on going bc he likes feeding his fans with music
lol all the songs that dropped since the beef was already made and waiting cause the beef was going on 😂 y’all be wanting this man to be so hurt so bad
You underestimate it. Hip Hop was created in the US. If you’re not verified by the original source you lose credibility. Then it crumbles like a house built on sand getting washed into the sea from a mild tsunami of disinterest from fans, critics & culture Talk what you know. Not what you think.
@@conduitofthegospeldarrellb9154you beat me to the punch. When it comes to hip hop, of Black people in America, specifically, who are the founders of the genre/culture, aren't messing with you, it's over. Drake, as arrogant and narcissistic as he is, knows this. And so do his handlers. They're struggling right now because Kendrick really exposed Drake as not being genuinely of the culture. Drake can still recover, but imo, he's gotta sit the sidelines for a minute, and rethink his game plan on how he's going to win the people back.
@BeerChugger first of all, a lot of rappers went mainstream. The problem people have with drake, he was raised in the suburbs. A lot of so-call hip hop heads don't respect someone not being brought up in the hood
@kellyjameric Wayne was a suburban kid. Cole too Drake moves different from these guys with pop music and ghostwriters. He does not respect the ethics of being a MC
Y'all saying Kendrick predicted this and that. Drake been doing all this shit before Kendrick said something. Y'all just talking out the side of y'all neck.
Kendric proved nothing to be true. Drake dropped songs after the meek mill beef, drake dropped songs after the pusha t beef and what he is doing now is nothing different.
As a drake fan this is why he should have just went away for awhile. Everything he's doing fits the narrative kendrick painted .. every single move 🤦♂️
The fact that you guys are just realizing that Drake is an actor cosplaying as a rapper shows how out of the loop you guys have been. Drake has always been a doof. Budden exposed it, Pusha highlighted it, and Kendrick painted it.
While kendrick keep missing, he drop music, concert, music video and gone, mf really don't care, I'm tired waiting another 5 years, at least do features or whatever
He funded the predator online streamer “xosnoh” on kick platform. He may not be the exact definition of a pedophile, but to blindly pretend that his movements towards 18 years old isn’t weird . Is just crazy to me. He dropped the “100 gigs of mid” to overshadow that news . Also it’s like ppl just now realizing he’s a lame. 😒.
Move different they’ll say kendrick changed you.. move the same they’ll say he right. I never seen such lopsided opinions . Especially when a person like drake has extended his hand time and time again. Its just odd to me that this many people dont like him
Finally, people are starting to see what Drake is. He is a pop artist that can rap. May that asterisk forever be next to Drakes* name, when people talk about the best rappers.
I love how y’all always wanna bring up the DMX diss but you can’t bring up the RETRACTION. *DMX said Drake was cool and he was WRONG!* he even let him sample his song how’s it going down.
When party was skinny drake had the chance to collab album while party was in his prime now he 300lbs u wanna drop a album? It show Drake a lame stand next to party when he overweight but never wanted to stand next to him when he was on some model shi
@@StealfromRich so why does your daddy Kendrick choose to rap battle with someone who’s “not a rapper”. Go outside and breathe, your brain needs fresh air
@illytimmy2613 I just stated a fact. You are the FAN jumping up to defend your man who doesn't know you exist. Kendrick battled him to eliminate him, and the very idea of a person like him existing in the culture. Go with your pop star and listen to pop music.
@waynexl2641 He is a pop act who is ghostwritten for. Hes a reciter of other peoples lyrics. Hes a top notch reciter. Not rapper. Why are you FANs having so much trouble coping with reality. This is like the adult version of learning Santa is fake.
*Too bad cuz Drake BEEN TOP 5* I’m an 80s baby from NYC and I’m telling you Drake is the *GOAT* sorry but you’re gonna have to find a way to cope. Kw drick just made you realize you’re a hypocrite. You were never a Drake fan. You made your choice now stay there! Plus social media wasn’t around when styles P and 50 were popular. Stop complaining the 90s and early 2000s to this era. 🙄
He started losing his female fans years go… more since this beef.. and I doubt his last ditch R&B collab will bring most of us back. D Kelly’s music doesn’t hit the same, knowing what we all know now.
Yall be glazing Kenny so hard man I swear so now Drake can’t put out music..as an artist imma be on my death bed “thinkin this wud make a good song” idc I love this sht and if your an artist u do too
Bro please get yourself together! Savon is an established Drake fan from Day 1 and he was on Drake's side when the beef jumped off. He's just being fair in the current assessment.
Just because Drake is versatile doesn't mean he's not a rapper. To say he's not a rapper when he just came out the biggest rap beef ever is contradictive
Kendrick Lamar: “ovhoe” Fans: omg he said ovhoe wooooooow so many entendres Drake can put out really good records and ppl gonna over critique him like Drake should’ve known that if he wins lyrically and strategically he loses in the eyes of public perception no matter what
Kendrick can fart 💨 Kendrick fans : oh my God he farted at 11:35 that is when the slaves were freed, that’s also the time America first landed in the moon 😂
Average drake fan with pea brain. Who the hell is calling that line one of entendres? Quoting a funny line at the end of the song when you could actually quote one of the many entendres throughout the song is funny work.
“Only you like being famous” bro can’t go away
His ego won’t allow him to take that L and it only reiterates what Dot said!!!
Does losing a rap battle mean you should stop making music for fans? Jay-Z didn’t stop after Ether. Meek didn’t stop after Back to Back. Why should Drake?
Good one
Euphoria has aged great
Why should someone who aspired to be famous not want to be famous and put out their work? Get an original thought
Drake is paranoid after the battle now he's spiraling right now 😭
Drake is desperate because his veneer of being the guy is gone…his music will still be on top of the charts but he’s grasping for culture acceptance and validation. The Kendrick line that applies here is “only you like being famous”…this makes sense, Drake should have taken 5 months off, come back with a new album, do some interviews and go on tour, it would be better than him doing wah wah deliah, doing 2 songs with racist Camila cabello, and a wack song with sexy red
@@kingdza bro you talking a whole lot of waffle
@@rosuzzieagnes124 bro stop the drake glazing my guy, it’s disgusting
Hes the one glazing and your analyzing the moves of someone you claim to not like. Weirdo@kingdza
@@rosuzzieagnes124cope
@@BLVCKSTVR_YT lol OVO avengers defending Drake lo
Tbh Ak aka the biggest drake glazer said it himself
“When u think about Meek battle, meek should’ve won that too but he ain’t know how to take Drake into the deep waters. He had the most ammo & instead of rapping it, he tweeted it out.
Pusha & Kendrick had less ammo but took drake to the deep waters & drake couldn’t swim with them….he knew those guys had more records to go”
& Ak was right
Fact. 😂
Ak said he blames Meek for Drake current predicament coz if he had focused and beaten Drake, Drake wouldn’t have engaged the beef with Kendrick
I thought the same thing. I liked war pain and all the summer 16 and really I’m the plug freestyles pray for em was heat too 🔥🔥
Too bad cuz he is now. I’m an 80s baby from NYC and I’m telling you Drake is the *GOAT* sorry but you’re gonna have to find a way to cope.
@@dee27206🧢🧢
@@dee27206 your coping right now
He messed up his relationships with certain ppl
The famous actor we once know is spiraling 🌀
Telling a grown man what he should do or not do is crazy!
tell me you don't check your mans without telling me....
@@BeautifulEarthJa hey you tripping my guy is different then hey stop making music and go away.
By not making music he's staying out of the spotlight so people will forget about him. It also gives him time to reflect. It's a smart move. You can wait until people start checking for you and then drop a project.
He needs to make a conceptual album for once. An album that goes deep and hard like Nothing was the same.
This nonsense gimmicks on social media is not it
He doesnt have that depth as a writer. He is musically a good writer.... he can rap... but his range with his pen as a writer in the rap space is really limited.
Drake don't have a clue on what's his next move
9 flops after not like us. I think not only his culture vulture cosplay shot exposed but his mid music.
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I think you guys aren’t really intouch with the streets and they never lose. Ny radio and clubs are already playing drake new music and said they’re not trading kdot for him until he makes good music like drake. Not like us was a moment getting played out now. I like kdot but be honest drake makes better songs and he’s proving it right now trending.
He is not making new choices compared to before. I agree it shows a lack of comprehension and fails to translate his errors to a different way of presenting himself. But I think that's only a tiny portion of the problem. Kendrick created a cultural blueprint on his (+ OVO) undeniable Modus Operandi, which is being used to scrutinize these same actions. In short, we are measuring the same actions from before with a new ruleset, rules that prove the problematic disconnect between the culture and him as an artist
Best comment I’ve seen so far on this
Damn it fam…EXACTLY what is happening in the culture. We have recalibrated as a matter of urgency here. Drake is JUST a great music maker and now most all of us can see that’s different from being a great rapper or high level lyricist that respects the culture, and that the culture respects.
I don’t understand why he should stop being himself? He drops music every summer. He lost a beef, bro always loses beefs, he stay taking L’s. Why change?
Because his whole being has been comprimised and its not good.
@@mrworkowt5419 that’s a weird assumption to make. Y’all don’t know him personally. You don’t know how this beef is affecting him cause he hasn’t said anything. His actions indicate the opposite of what you think cause he’s doing what he always does.
I can guarantee if Drake disappeared for 6 months, You’ll say “Kendrick made Drake retire”.
He’s always dropped music consistently, quality might not always be top tier , but he’s never not been active.
Why should he change it because he lost a battle to someone less commercially successful than he is?
He’s not Kendrick, and Kendrick can’t be him. No one has been as successful as him yet everyone wants to give him advice, just enjoy or not enjoy the music.
lmfao keep coping the weeknd is creepin on ya boy in terms of numbers and he's the one who wrote drakes only classic album 😂
@@RedJackkk I’m the one coping but you brought Abel into this 😂. I’m a Dot fan but you new Dot fans are weirdos. I’m stating Drake is going to do what Drake does, and Kendrick will do what Kendrick does and ironically you’re in your feelings. Kendrick is not as successful as Drake and that’s facts
Who cares about his commercial success? It was never about that.
@@XoXo_XoTK2 everyone cares about commercial success to an extent. Don’t lie to yourself , there are more talented singers than Rihanna yet he chose Rihanna for Loyalty, Chose Summer Walker for Purple Hearts. If you think he does music not to sell records and not to be successful then you’re a liar, maybe he’s managed to preserve a lot of the art and heart of it but he also is commercially successful just not as much as Drake. And that’s okay
@@RedJackkkDrake doesnt have a hiphop classic
As a business owner in sales I've used Drakes method to feel out my customers. It feels like this is what he is doing,. Money wise he's outta here he says so may not matter what he does. Y'all say he not for the culture then waste time examining uncultured shit. It could be just what it is, a product test. I'm sure Drake drops what and when he wants. Us commoners may not ever understand but that man is a business that feeds a lot of people. The beef is over. He lost. Lets move on.
… bro is doubling down on what he’s always done and yall people with mics can’t see it. If drake acts different than before the beef you sold attribute it to Kendrick..
He’s not gonna go away if you if you get in a fight at work or you lose a argument or a battle rap, you don’t just disappear You have to get your ass back at work or rap again the dumbest thing he can do is disappear he has to keep on going bc he likes feeding his fans with music
lol all the songs that dropped since the beef was already made and waiting cause the beef was going on 😂 y’all be wanting this man to be so hurt so bad
Y’all really overestimate the culture thing. Good luck with that. I guarantee people outside the US don’t give 2 shits
You underestimate it. Hip Hop was created in the US. If you’re not verified by the original source you lose credibility. Then it crumbles like a house built on sand getting washed into the sea from a mild tsunami of disinterest from fans, critics & culture
Talk what you know. Not what you think.
You’re not a fan of hip hop.
@@conduitofthegospeldarrellb9154you beat me to the punch. When it comes to hip hop, of Black people in America, specifically, who are the founders of the genre/culture, aren't messing with you, it's over. Drake, as arrogant and narcissistic as he is, knows this. And so do his handlers. They're struggling right now because Kendrick really exposed Drake as not being genuinely of the culture. Drake can still recover, but imo, he's gotta sit the sidelines for a minute, and rethink his game plan on how he's going to win the people back.
This conversation was so dumb. I love that no one likes to bring up that Drake doesn't back down when called out. Win or loss that's hip hop.
He’s NEVER been a rapper bro. Stop trying to make it make sense!!
wtf you talking about . This rapper ran the RAP game for over a decade.
@@aviator4144Kendrick gave them an opportunity to revise history. So they are trying to take full advantage
He is a Popstar/rapper
This is not like your average MC like Nas or Jay Z @aviator4144
@BeerChugger first of all, a lot of rappers went mainstream. The problem people have with drake, he was raised in the suburbs. A lot of so-call hip hop heads don't respect someone not being brought up in the hood
@kellyjameric Wayne was a suburban kid. Cole too
Drake moves different from these guys with pop music and ghostwriters. He does not respect the ethics of being a MC
Y'all saying Kendrick predicted this and that. Drake been doing all this shit before Kendrick said something. Y'all just talking out the side of y'all neck.
Kendric proved nothing to be true. Drake dropped songs after the meek mill beef, drake dropped songs after the pusha t beef and what he is doing now is nothing different.
As a drake fan this is why he should have just went away for awhile. Everything he's doing fits the narrative kendrick painted .. every single move 🤦♂️
The fact that you guys are just realizing that Drake is an actor cosplaying as a rapper shows how out of the loop you guys have been. Drake has always been a doof. Budden exposed it, Pusha highlighted it, and Kendrick painted it.
So how did a doof get as many 1s as MJ?
He never could relate, Hints why he did “Started from the bottom” 🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️
Do people actually listen to Drake albums or just the bops? Plenty of introspection on there
While kendrick keep missing, he drop music, concert, music video and gone, mf really don't care, I'm tired waiting another 5 years, at least do features or whatever
Kung fu Kenny son lol 😂
They was MAD mad on Twitter over this 😂
What kind of Hate comment section is this? Why can’t the man just drop what he drops? Y’all be tryna decipher everything with this man.. Like WTF?
Thank you !! I’m glad somebody said it !
He funded the predator online streamer “xosnoh” on kick platform. He may not be the exact definition of a pedophile, but to blindly pretend that his movements towards 18 years old isn’t weird . Is just crazy to me. He dropped the “100 gigs of mid” to overshadow that news . Also it’s like ppl just now realizing he’s a lame. 😒.
Move different they’ll say kendrick changed you.. move the same they’ll say he right. I never seen such lopsided opinions . Especially when a person like drake has extended his hand time and time again. Its just odd to me that this many people dont like him
The CC features were done a long time before the beef.
Finally, people are starting to see what Drake is. He is a pop artist that can rap. May that asterisk forever be next to Drakes* name, when people talk about the best rappers.
Or maybe he always had a ghost writer. You can’t lose what you never had
He dropped that to start beef between 21 & Yak
I love how y’all always wanna bring up the DMX diss but you can’t bring up the RETRACTION. *DMX said Drake was cool and he was WRONG!* he even let him sample his song how’s it going down.
It seems that Drake is surrounded by yes men. He should have taken a small hiatus.
By the logic Y’all giving. Drake should just stop making music lmao.
He should 😅
Faaacts! He really should stop making music and retire. 😂😂
It’s funny how people are acting like they don’t like Drakes music now😂😂😂
@@KiingMwe don’t
When party was skinny drake had the chance to collab album while party was in his prime now he 300lbs u wanna drop a album? It show Drake a lame stand next to party when he overweight but never wanted to stand next to him when he was on some model shi
Drake is staying!! Like it or not
Dare you to make a honest top 10 rapper list without him being mentioned.
Hes not a rapper
@@StealfromRich so why does your daddy Kendrick choose to rap battle with someone who’s “not a rapper”. Go outside and breathe, your brain needs fresh air
@illytimmy2613 I just stated a fact. You are the FAN jumping up to defend your man who doesn't know you exist. Kendrick battled him to eliminate him, and the very idea of a person like him existing in the culture. Go with your pop star and listen to pop music.
@@StealfromRich he’s definitely a rapper… he raps. He raps a lot. I don’t understand how you could deduce that he isn’t a rapper.
@waynexl2641 He is a pop act who is ghostwritten for. Hes a reciter of other peoples lyrics. Hes a top notch reciter. Not rapper. Why are you FANs having so much trouble coping with reality. This is like the adult version of learning Santa is fake.
*Too bad cuz Drake BEEN TOP 5* I’m an 80s baby from NYC and I’m telling you Drake is the *GOAT* sorry but you’re gonna have to find a way to cope. Kw drick just made you realize you’re a hypocrite. You were never a Drake fan. You made your choice now stay there! Plus social media wasn’t around when styles P and 50 were popular. Stop complaining the 90s and early 2000s to this era. 🙄
He's spiraling 😂.
He started losing his female fans years go… more since this beef.. and I doubt his last ditch R&B collab will bring most of us back. D Kelly’s music doesn’t hit the same, knowing what we all know now.
You sound dumb ass fuck. The man just had 100 thousand girls screaming in a concert like 2 weeks ago.
Great segment 🔥🔥
He is cooked universal will absolutely drop him
Wtf are you guys even saying lol
Clips of the 100 gigs is all over tik tok
I just want to see all of these Podcast numbers if they didnt mention Drake. This man is feeding families like him or not.
Because they’re doing their job😂😂 that’s the point
Savon is so off
Yall be glazing Kenny so hard man I swear so now Drake can’t put out music..as an artist imma be on my death bed “thinkin this wud make a good song” idc I love this sht and if your an artist u do too
Bro please get yourself together! Savon is an established Drake fan from Day 1 and he was on Drake's side when the beef jumped off. He's just being fair in the current assessment.
Savin didn’t wanna admit drake lost till he had to lmao
This nigga just objectively speaking facts about drake now
Exactly
Yall swear Drake care about yall or kdot lmao. Yall dont have to listen so wtf yall upset about?
SaVon cooking 🔥🔥🔥
Just because Drake is versatile doesn't mean he's not a rapper. To say he's not a rapper when he just came out the biggest rap beef ever is contradictive
Lmao he didn’t lose though.
Ngl. Drake and desperate in the same sentence don’t make sense.
had to unsubscribe
Kendrick Lamar: “ovhoe”
Fans: omg he said ovhoe wooooooow so many entendres
Drake can put out really good records and ppl gonna over critique him like Drake should’ve known that if he wins lyrically and strategically he loses in the eyes of public perception no matter what
Nope not true. Everybody was dickridin Drake before the battle and during the battle until he dropped that weird shit heart part 6.
Kendrick can fart 💨 Kendrick fans : oh my God he farted at 11:35 that is when the slaves were freed, that’s also the time America first landed in the moon 😂
Average drake fan with pea brain. Who the hell is calling that line one of entendres? Quoting a funny line at the end of the song when you could actually quote one of the many entendres throughout the song is funny work.
Most horrible take.
He’s A Fan,Lame
…mmm reach
I cant take this podcast anymore finally unsubscribing
The fact that you’re announcing your unsubscribing means you’re not 😂
Because they're speaking facts!? Would be a welcomed unsubscribe lol
You mad because they speak in a real about drake
Drake desperate you guys have to be kidding he about to break Michael Jackson’s record for no 1. Please put some respect on the goat
Drake glazing this early is dangerous
Awwwe, I remember when I was a kid and used to defend my favorites celebrities as if I was getting a check too. 🥹🫠😂😂
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