When dude said "Blasphemy" is one of his favourite Tupac songs it made me wish I could stretch my hand through the screen and shake his hand! "Blasphemy" is seriously slept on!
Sure did. He played out the definition. Crazy how all that happened in 1 week. I heard his disses was recorded in 1 session like he was saying to himself "let me get this shit out the way so I can get back to recording my album".😂
In the beginning of the year Katt Williams open the door on the world; on Club Shay Shay... Drake on the otherhand didn't realize he was next; thanks to King Kendrick The Goat!!!!!!
Only thing is many have went deeper than Kat has for decades, but were called tin foil hats or conspiracy theorists. There are a lot of half truths spoken by public figures to discredit the whole truth (Kat, Russel Brand, Alex Jones, etc.) If they are on a major platform you must give a side eye.
What did midget Kenny do to Drake😂😂😂😂😂??? internet is not a real place out here very few ppl play Kenny music, midget plays the high moral guy persona but keeps conflicting his statements,he claims Drake is a pedophile, wouldn't it be right for midget Kenny to provide info to the authorities???who would be mad at him for putting away a person who takes advantage of minors?it's been over a month and no single person has come forward accusing Drake of any wrong doing and inappropriate behavior with minors,infact all the girls mentioned in the allegations have come out clearly to deny all claims,but y'all just ignore that, midget strategy was to assassinate Drakes character by all means be it lying,calling him a culture vulture and colonizer but that didn't seem to be so when he was coming up,not very well known Touring with Drake,this is Envy, jealousy and pure hate and y'all know it,Drake has been collaborating with various artists like future, Rick Ross,lil Yachty 21 savage,blockboy JB, Travis Scott and many others while midget was hibernating,now to some them he's a culture vulture,a colonizer and Rick Ross just discovered after all these years that Drake is not black but white, wherever he perfoms ppl only know his features with Drake,his shows would be a snoozefest if he didn't play the songs, future and metro are struggling to sell their tours despite them dropping two full albums dissing a lightskin Canadian rapper.How the can Drake be a culture vulture??? would midget Kenny collaborate with these other artists?how many songs does he have with the artists mentioned above compared to Drake?How is he a colonizer??? HATE!!!!!!!!HATE!!!!HATE!!!! It's just that Drake has done way more for the culture than midget Kenny has,the Drake stimmy even midget been a beneficiary more proof in his recent success,it involved Drake thats why😂😂😂😂
I LOVE Kendrick but nah… His best song is Sing About me, Dying of thirst THAT is when I realized how skilled he is. So many angles & different viewpoints that he came from The dude is a monster
Break that down for me if you can, because I genuinely would like to hear your opinion. My favorite songs by kdot are money trees & Father Time. So if you don’t mind elaborate.
i really can’t believe ppl on the internet are actually COMPLAINING that kendrick had pre-recorded diss tracks. are y’all going kidding me???! now being PREPARED is a problem?? y’all goofys need to stfu frfr
They have to grasp on to something after all of the other excuses get shut down. I can't believe it either..I think some of the responses are from bots or AI lol. Next it'll be Kendrick had an advantage because he recorded in sunny weather while Drake was recording somewhere cold haha!!!!
@@charlesnelson244that's my point, he already admitted that he had a bunch of stuff pre-recorded and I'm sure he had that pre-recorded in particular depending on how personal Drake got, that does not prove a mole of any kind lol
Nas started recording songs for the album in 92 and has raps written as early as 91. It took a while to make Illmatic. He was definitely a young teenager when the process started. Possibly 16.
I hate when people keep saying “everybody listens to drake” NOPE!!! I’ve been saying from the beginning, drake doesn’t sound authentic on anything he does.
Do you have a mental condition m? Obviously when people say “everybody” they don’t literally mean every single person on the face of the earth. Bro talking about “they said everybody listens to drake but NOT ME!”
@@joshrentos216 lol 😂 you sound like the type of person who thinks 1 couple means more than two. You sound like the type to believe you are what you identify as. Word EVERYBODY means EVERYONE you idiot lol go suck drakes pusie
I'm not arguing with nobody about their personal top 5 or top 10 list. Music is super subjective and when you listen to these conversations and the constructs they use to base their argument you realize everyone doesn't use the same criteria to choose their favorites. I'm not mad at nobody list.
But that's the whole spirit of Hip Hop! That's why we love it. These MCs are like comic book heroes with their own gifts and talents. Makes for great debate and appreciation
This guy had a chance to ask this guy questions about Kendricks recording Not Like Us and instead he talked about his top 5 and his favourite 2pac songs
@powderedtoastfacekillah734 Drake is one of the greatest m.c.s of all times. Drake might have lost the rap battle against Kendrick but doesn't change Drakes top notch skills as a m.c. But you are entitle to your opinion.
@@naaimshareef Drake doesn’t write his raps…his raps are written for him His raps are scripts…he just says them He’s an actor and you’re enjoying his role He’s not an MC. Please stop insulting MCs I respect you…but this isn’t an opinion it’s a fact
@@powderedtoastfacekillah734 I understand that, however i still say even though Drake doesnt write all of his raps is still can rap and is one of the greatest rappers of all times. Some of the greatest r&b singers/soul singers/pop singers superstars didnt write all of their songs Michael Jackson, Whitney Houston, Janet Jackson, Prince (he wrote most of his song yet not all of them), Marvin Gaye, Freddy Jackson, Luther Vandross, Patti LaBelle, Aretha Franklin, Diana Rose, Gladys Knight, Smokey Robinson, Stevie Wonder, etc. Let people still consider all of those i just name the greatest.
@@naaimshareef only difference is singing is still a talent whether you write or not If you don’t write your raps you’re literally just repeating a script. Especially if you use reference tracks like Drake does which tell him how to say the raps But like I said I respect you bro so please don’t take my replies as me tryna argue. We’re just debating and I appreciate you keeping it civil with me in this convo
@@powderedtoastfacekillah734 Indeed we are just having a respectful conversation, no problem lol. I think in hip hop there are certain standards held for hip hop artists that arent held for artists of other music geners one being authentic with your lyrics and another being writing your own lyrics, which i do understand.
Kendrick vs Drake is basically the ppl vs the system. Drake as a rapper is just a product and he’s good at what he does. Kendrick is an artist with an unmatched skill level.
lol Cole is no longer rated anymore he ran from a fight his legacy is ruin forever Drake and Cole not in the same arena you are correct at least Drake fight and not ran
@@sven7037you’re bugging. Cole jumped out cause he a nice guy and genuinely respects both parties. I know that ain’t the hip hop way ppl want but Cole’s pen can compete with everyone in the game. He literally went on a 5 year run killing features and songs.
@@Braelynn-oc1hq I just heard this song for the first time. Cole and Drake were about even IMO. It sounded like they were trying to vibe rather than go head to head.
@@ghostassassinxpx did you watch the segment? He said he texted Kendrick right after Family Matters dropped. Kendrick and Problem are also peers, and from the same neighborhood in Compton, so it's not really a mystery they have a friendship.
@@MichaelBrown-ti1un Bro I can say I was having breakfast with Kendrick that morning. But it's not even like that I just wanna know who he is to understand the credibility of his takes/stories.
That Kobe v Lebron comparison to Kendrick v Drake is spot on imo...also no B.I.G disrespect will be tolerated...he would outrap 99% of the rappers that came after him and are alive today...him being murdered so young doesn't take away from his GOATness...that's my opinion
Used to love BIG but later in life I realised all his raps is cap. Big Poppa having threesomes, shooting, robbing & running from the police 😂 Come on Big, U ain't getting away from shit or getting bitches with your eyes facing east & west at the same time 😂
The analogy of Kendrick vs Drake and Kobe vs LeBron are not the same in my opinion. In no way shape or form. We all know Drake uses reference tracks and people write alot of his music. Where is the apology to compare with what Kobe did vs LeBron.
@rayb2410 well he explained in detail how they’re similar. Because lebron brought more eyes to the game and kinda brought everyone in the league together. Drake does this as a rapper. Whereas Kobe didn’t care about anything but winning and they’re saying that’s how KDot is
@@CanPen92 na bro, the same one’s who hate drake be bumping his music, I’m disappointed, all beef aside these were the worst disses I ever heard and to see them backed is crazy for me, used to do music producing and I’m really tryna see what kendrick did that have y’all gassing this trashcan shh
@@thickivicki89 Indeed. Kendrick is a intelligent Blackman who is one of the greatest m.c.s of all times. I am a huge fan of Kendrick as well as Drake he is one of the greatest m.c.s of all times. Salute and congratulations to the brother Kendrick for all of his success.
Drake enter with confidence of a lot of fans but forget that we follow the culture of hip hop kendrick always hit up with sick flows and bars which is something drake don’t have only person who can try to match up was cole when i here his withdrawal i know is over before it start
@@TheZimbeatzthe only problem with that opinion is "HIS bars" .......those weren't "HIS" and it was obvious after he spit "HIS" actual bars on the Heart pt 6(he told on himself in the outro of that song) you can't have ghostwriters in a rap battle and claim he had better bars and witty lines my guy
@@RealTrill2013 Tell us.. How did you deduce that he had ghost writers for the track that was fire but apparently write the one that was contentious ? LOL
Problem is right. Also Tupac IS the most influential rapper imo. 1. Tupac 2. Nas 3. Jay-Z 4. Kendrick 5. Ice Cube 6. Rakim 7. Snoop 8. Lil Wayne 9. Biggie 10. Eminem This my top 10 tbh
I will say being a huge mega fan of Tupac since i was 13 years of 1993 that he is definitely one of the most inflential hip hop artists of all times, as well as Rakim, Nas, Big Daddy Kane, Cube, LL Cool J, Kanye, Snoop, Biggie, Jay-Z & Kanye.
How inflential a hip hop artist is one of the criteria that a hip hop artist must have in order to be consider the greatest m.c. of all times. I remember reading in XXL Magazine in 2002 something that LL Cool J said that the crown or title of the greatest m.c. of all times does not necessary go to the hip hop artist that can rap greater than all the rest of the m.c.s, but the greatest m.c. of all times go to the hip hop artist who can name more reasons why they can earn that crown or title.
Kendrick has entered the West coast mt Rushmore convo. Dr-PAC-Snoop are irreplaceable, but that 4th spot is between Kendrick,Cube,Eazy E,Ice T,E-40,Too short, Dj Quik.
Kendrick is my guy, but he ain't on Mt. Rushmore yet. He definitely creeping up on goat status. On the mountain: Too Short and Ice T. Both put the Bay and LA on the map rap wise.
The story that Jason told was like when I was a kid and a Tyson fight was on. If you went to the bathroom, by the time you came back, the fight was done. 😂🤣
I don't y'all hip hop heads but anyone thats a Prince fan isn't amazed by anything anyone does. Prince was his own writer, producer, engineer, composer, band etc all at 17. Started writing songs at 7.
This man had some inspiration in “Not Like Us” (the cadence) Yeah, it's all eyes on me, and I'ma send it up to Pac, ayy Put the wrong label on me, I'ma get 'em dropped, ayy Sweet Chin Music and I won't pass the aux, ayy
The Nas disregard is crazy. Illmatic changed everything about hip-hop in the 90s. Nas ushered in a new style & content that wasnt being discussed outside of G Rap or Rakim. Pac is referenced by every "influential" rapper yall named. Pac is hands down the most influential. Every single decade his cadence, image, and name is referenced. From Ja Rule to DMX to Jay. Kanye to Nip and and Kendrick. Wayne to Boosie. No matter the region or era, it's Tupac Shakur. Let's not get crazy.
No shortcuts except have 4 All Stars by his side and going to the Hamptons to beg KD to come save him after choking a 3-1 lead lmao. Steph got other niggas carrying him & winning Finals MVPs on his own squad just like Drake got other niggas writing for him and taking the credit for it lol
5:38 J. Cole makes a mistake, and what others deem to be a show of weakness(which was really wisdom) and people out here talking crazy. Cole is a master Of his craft. Which is the craft of hip hop. Drake is a master of marketing and performing, acting, and has the entire machine behind him. And drops hits. But in terms of rap. Cole, and drake are not at ALL in the same arena. Kendrick is an artist. A true genius of art. And culture. He transcends hip hop even though that’s his medium. So he is in an area a of his own. And Eminem, specifically MMLP em, and even SSLP, and Eminem show too, he is in that arena with Kendrick. And y’all always sleep on Lupe, if we’re just talking lyricism, and artistry, delivery. Lupe F&L and The Cool. Shit he is still yet to be fully understood in terms of that level of skill. But drake makes hits. He isn’t top 20 in terms of rap. I’m sorry, he just isn’t. There’s too many greats that get slept on by the mainstream(teenage demographic) to even insult hip hop like that. Not even too 50. But a MASTER marketer. And related to the industry, if ykyk
That part! When kev mentioned talking to drake fans for 3 weeks was irritating. They’re mediocre fans of hip hop that love pop culture. Kendrick runs laps around Drake.
you can have your faves growing up whose music means more to you, but anyone who refuses to recognize that Kendrick is legitimately in the top 10, if not 5, greatest OF ALL TIME dead or alive, thats just contrarian talk. based on the strength of the discography alone, Kendrick clears most anybody. his message? he impact? his skill level? his artistry? takes him even further. now with this decisive battle win won in the fashion he did where its truly public, uncontestable and culture-shifting, he's not only made a space for himself in that ranking, he mighta just created an entire new requirement for anyone who wants to follow after him
DOT is like Kobe don't change that stay with that energy. I mean he's the G.O.A.T bruh... hard to see who's better on all levels. KDOT got everything and can he can rap on every level.
The fact that we’re comparing a 24 year old man, who has passed over 20 years ago to all these artists of all ages, that still have only come close to matching his artistry… yeah. 11:34
The only way steph is like drake is their light skin and thats it. Curry is all hard work and loves the game of basketball. Drake leaves the hard work to the producers the ghost writteres the reference track. Dude is trippin.
Love this as someone who’s complete hip hop head like yourselves. I move into newer soubds but I enjoyed this battle. I had Kendrick to win but I had no idea so master minded with recording 10 songs. That’s Kobe Jordan level. Only thing I thought Drake might do a back 2 back like song. He lacked angles on Kendrick tho.
Im proud to say that, the first drake song i lostened to till the end was Heart Part 6 because i just wanted to know what he was saying in his grave. Besides it, no drake song can captivate my attention for more than 2 minutes. My spirit just repulsed him from way back!
This was beautiful! I found out about Kendrick and Jason (Problem) when I heard Terrace Martin’s album. It was a great album and they were both nice on there. I wonder if they met during that time.
Top Ten: 1. Krs One, 2. Black Thought, 3. Kendrick Lamar 4. Andre 3000, 5. J Cole, 6. Eminem 7. Redman 8. Biggie 9. Wayne 10. Busta Rhymes(Cube can easily switch with the bottom 2, depends on how I'm vibing at the time).
He actually predicted and warned those in Rich Spirit... "Stop Playin wit me for i turn you into a song" "Spirit Medium... are you strapped brother" Warning shots a year ago 🤷🏽♀️ Fuckin Genius ❤🥰🤴🏿
Papoose walked so Kendrick can win! Top lyricists Papoose Remy ma Cassidy Jcole Wale Kendrick Lamar❤ Rhapsody Em in em Joe Budden Slaughterhouse Lupe Fiasco Bang. This is what needs to be discussed!!! Top lyricists! They are poets and deserve respect
Natural, pure, artistry these are the prophets, and visionaries in real life. They cannot be using their art for evil they deserve to earn a living for their craft and not be sacrificed or placed in some slave contracts that drain their souls and energy.
I don’t care what nobody says, that’s when a lot of R&B groups were sing rapping, they got that from Bone. Destiny’s Child was one of them…I couldn’t understand why they didn’t say where they got their influence from? True Bone fans knew though
Kendrick is the GOAT for me simply because he embodies so many past GOATs while somehow being better then they were and on top of it, he's consistently never switched and tried to be what's popular. His music low key never stepped in the glorifying money, hoes and murder trap
Em is a industry 🪴 along with Drake. Drake is a Pop Rapper, Em is a Pop MC. We’ve heard the songs where he disrespected FBA’s calling our sistas the b word and saying the n word. If a outsider has no respect for our ppl the he’ll never be a GOAT in this culture. 👌🏾👌🏾👌🏾
Kobe Bryant said himself during an interview alongside Kendrick that Kendrick reminded him of himself
Saw that interview 2 weeks ago! Drake could never because even Lebron was bumping Not Like Us😂😂🤣🤣
Drakes a punk it’s nothing anyone can make a diss back to Kendrick if they really feel threatened fr fr
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That says it all #MambaMentality
Oh shut up
When dude said "Blasphemy" is one of his favourite Tupac songs it made me wish I could stretch my hand through the screen and shake his hand! "Blasphemy" is seriously slept on!
Makaveli straight up 🔥🔥🔥
No lies told. First heard it as a teen & it still hits now
Facts
“Don’t start that blasphemy…”. Overstood
Facts !!!!!! That song was spooky and lyrical af 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 pac went crazy on that
Drake definitely didn't have that much ammo and it showed as the battle went on. He just expected his popularity to carry him through.
Yep
thats why 85% of family matters had nothing to do with kendrick
Facts.
@PAINBODEE big facts.
The artwork on euphoria told it all
Facts 💯
Sure did. He played out the definition. Crazy how all that happened in 1 week. I heard his disses was recorded in 1 session like he was saying to himself "let me get this shit out the way so I can get back to recording my album".😂
In the beginning of the year Katt Williams open the door on the world; on Club Shay Shay... Drake on the otherhand didn't realize he was next; thanks to King Kendrick The Goat!!!!!!
Facts💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯
Drake was right about one thing:
"This shit been brewing in a pot, now [Kendrick's] heating up!"
I called it from jump. He was next 💯
Only thing is many have went deeper than Kat has for decades, but were called tin foil hats or conspiracy theorists. There are a lot of half truths spoken by public figures to discredit the whole truth (Kat, Russel Brand, Alex Jones, etc.) If they are on a major platform you must give a side eye.
What did midget Kenny do to Drake😂😂😂😂😂??? internet is not a real place out here very few ppl play Kenny music, midget plays the high moral guy persona but keeps conflicting his statements,he claims Drake is a pedophile, wouldn't it be right for midget Kenny to provide info to the authorities???who would be mad at him for putting away a person who takes advantage of minors?it's been over a month and no single person has come forward accusing Drake of any wrong doing and inappropriate behavior with minors,infact all the girls mentioned in the allegations have come out clearly to deny all claims,but y'all just ignore that, midget strategy was to assassinate Drakes character by all means be it lying,calling him a culture vulture and colonizer but that didn't seem to be so when he was coming up,not very well known Touring with Drake,this is Envy, jealousy and pure hate and y'all know it,Drake has been collaborating with various artists like future, Rick Ross,lil Yachty 21 savage,blockboy JB, Travis Scott and many others while midget was hibernating,now to some them he's a culture vulture,a colonizer and Rick Ross just discovered after all these years that Drake is not black but white, wherever he perfoms ppl only know his features with Drake,his shows would be a snoozefest if he didn't play the songs, future and metro are struggling to sell their tours despite them dropping two full albums dissing a lightskin Canadian rapper.How the can Drake be a culture vulture??? would midget Kenny collaborate with these other artists?how many songs does he have with the artists mentioned above compared to Drake?How is he a colonizer??? HATE!!!!!!!!HATE!!!!HATE!!!! It's just that Drake has done way more for the culture than midget Kenny has,the Drake stimmy even midget been a beneficiary more proof in his recent success,it involved Drake thats why😂😂😂😂
There is a difference between rappers and lyricists. Huge massive difference. The word play from Kendrick is insane.😊
"Shed So Many Tears" is so slept on. That song is in the background of my childhood growing up on east 7 Mile in the 90s.
My fave pac song
One of my favorites along with “Never had a friend like me “
Blasphemy is one of my most top favorite Tupac songs.
Absolutely love it 🎶
Still on my playlist to this day...classic.
I knew when i heard "the art of peer pressure," no one could mess with kenny... listen to it again that song is arguably the best SONG ever
I LOVE Kendrick but nah… His best song is Sing About me, Dying of thirst
THAT is when I realized how skilled he is. So many angles & different viewpoints that he came from
The dude is a monster
Idk man with a body of work as greatly consistent as Kendrick it’s hard to pick a best song
Break that down for me if you can, because I genuinely would like to hear your opinion. My favorite songs by kdot are money trees & Father Time. So if you don’t mind elaborate.
There is people out here like me who never fked with drake I always knew he was corney asf 😂
Heart part 2/3/5, I hate you, the relevant, blacker the berry. He’s got like 10 tracks that no one ever could touch lmao
i really can’t believe ppl on the internet are actually COMPLAINING that kendrick had pre-recorded diss tracks. are y’all going kidding me???! now being PREPARED is a problem?? y’all goofys need to stfu frfr
They have to grasp on to something after all of the other excuses get shut down. I can't believe it either..I think some of the responses are from bots or AI lol. Next it'll be Kendrick had an advantage because he recorded in sunny weather while Drake was recording somewhere cold haha!!!!
No problem with him being prepared at all, but that's also why I didn't buy the "mole " theory that he tried to push on 616
@@eljefe6161The song is called meet the grahams which came immediately after family matters. K-dot knew about drakes song already.
@@charlesnelson244that's my point, he already admitted that he had a bunch of stuff pre-recorded and I'm sure he had that pre-recorded in particular depending on how personal Drake got, that does not prove a mole of any kind lol
@@eljefe6161 He definitely had information which is why he had the Ozempic pill bottle which Drake said he gave Kendrick which was also a lie.
Pac dropped Dear Mama at 22… NAS WROTE THE WHOLE ILLMATIC AT 19 (some songs maybe earlier) DROPPED AT AGE 20. Stop playin with NAS!! 👑
Nas dropped Illmatic at age 20 when it came out in April 1994.
@@SoulOfTheSouth idk why Nas fans like to exaggerate his age when he dropped Illmatic. I see it all the time.
@@UniVS427 I know right. They be saying he was 16-17 when it dropped but the man was born in September 1973.
Nas started recording songs for the album in 92 and has raps written as early as 91. It took a while to make Illmatic. He was definitely a young teenager when the process started. Possibly 16.
Exactly. Nas one of the greatest ever
Kev gotta let his guests speak. He's pulling a Nore.
Agree. Dude was dropping jewels
Fr like damn I really just wanna hear Jason speak on it more than whatever tf kev gotta say
Seriously, Kev, stop talking about yourself and expand on what the guest says. Let them talk, geez.
Kev been doing this for quite some time..its not changing
No podcast etiquette
I hate when people keep saying “everybody listens to drake” NOPE!!!
I’ve been saying from the beginning, drake doesn’t sound authentic on anything he does.
I loved him from 2009 to 2013. But slowly the headlines started to raise my eyebrows
Facts.
Do you have a mental condition m? Obviously when people say “everybody” they don’t literally mean every single person on the face of the earth. Bro talking about “they said everybody listens to drake but NOT ME!”
@@joshrentos216 lol 😂 you sound like the type of person who thinks 1 couple means more than two. You sound like the type to believe you are what you identify as. Word EVERYBODY means EVERYONE you idiot lol go suck drakes pusie
nah you Kendrick Backpack fans are just haters of fun
I'm not arguing with nobody about their personal top 5 or top 10 list. Music is super subjective and when you listen to these conversations and the constructs they use to base their argument you realize everyone doesn't use the same criteria to choose their favorites. I'm not mad at nobody list.
But that's the whole spirit of Hip Hop! That's why we love it. These MCs are like comic book heroes with their own gifts and talents. Makes for great debate and appreciation
@@da_raven8857nah. theres a difference. best and your favorite ain’t the same.
Section.80 still in heavy rotation! Kendrick been a dawg since way back. People didn’t wake up until a few years ago
This guy had a chance to ask this guy questions about Kendricks recording Not Like Us and instead he talked about his top 5 and his favourite 2pac songs
1:53 he’s absolutely right with the drake/bron Kendrick/Kobe reference. Been saying that for years, myself. Glad others see it.
Check their head to head record..terrible comparison 😂 LeBron actually beat Kobe more than Kobe beat Bron
@@acemccannis302went over your head
@acemccannis90 man these dudes are RIDICULOUS kobe was a studio tough guy 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Drake is an actor playing the role of a rapper
People throw around “plant” so much but it’s WILD Drake never receives those accusations
@powderedtoastfacekillah734 Drake is one of the greatest m.c.s of all times. Drake might have lost the rap battle against Kendrick but doesn't change Drakes top notch skills as a m.c. But you are entitle to your opinion.
@@naaimshareef Drake doesn’t write his raps…his raps are written for him
His raps are scripts…he just says them
He’s an actor and you’re enjoying his role
He’s not an MC. Please stop insulting MCs
I respect you…but this isn’t an opinion it’s a fact
@@powderedtoastfacekillah734 I understand that, however i still say even though Drake doesnt write all of his raps is still can rap and is one of the greatest rappers of all times.
Some of the greatest r&b singers/soul singers/pop singers superstars didnt write all of their songs Michael Jackson, Whitney Houston, Janet Jackson, Prince (he wrote most of his song yet not all of them), Marvin Gaye, Freddy Jackson, Luther Vandross, Patti LaBelle, Aretha Franklin, Diana Rose, Gladys Knight, Smokey Robinson, Stevie Wonder, etc.
Let people still consider all of those i just name the greatest.
@@naaimshareef only difference is singing is still a talent whether you write or not
If you don’t write your raps you’re literally just repeating a script. Especially if you use reference tracks like Drake does which tell him how to say the raps
But like I said I respect you bro so please don’t take my replies as me tryna argue. We’re just debating and I appreciate you keeping it civil with me in this convo
@@powderedtoastfacekillah734 Indeed we are just having a respectful conversation, no problem lol. I think in hip hop there are certain standards held for hip hop artists that arent held for artists of other music geners one being authentic with your lyrics and another being writing your own lyrics, which i do understand.
Euphoria is my favorite song, too, from Kendrick.
Mine too!
The euphoria opening at the pop out was amazing
Same. It has my Favorite bar too….. “… gonna make me wave one finger then thump yall niggas like MMM!”….. 🤣 Dot was just toying with Drake
Kendrick vs Drake is basically the ppl vs the system. Drake as a rapper is just a product and he’s good at what he does. Kendrick is an artist with an unmatched skill level.
Bruh Drake isn't in the same arena with JCole.
Sadly
lol Cole is no longer rated anymore he ran from a fight his legacy is ruin forever Drake and Cole not in the same arena you are correct at least Drake fight and not ran
@@sven7037you’re bugging. Cole jumped out cause he a nice guy and genuinely respects both parties. I know that ain’t the hip hop way ppl want but Cole’s pen can compete with everyone in the game. He literally went on a 5 year run killing features and songs.
Then why did he eat him up on evil ways
@@Braelynn-oc1hq I just heard this song for the first time. Cole and Drake were about even IMO. It sounded like they were trying to vibe rather than go head to head.
Dope hearing from Problem, someone who had a direct-line to Kendrick during the battle.
Did he? Idk this dude... Fill me in (pause)
Proof?
@@BluEx22329watch the interview closely
@@ghostassassinxpx did you watch the segment? He said he texted Kendrick right after Family Matters dropped. Kendrick and Problem are also peers, and from the same neighborhood in Compton, so it's not really a mystery they have a friendship.
@@MichaelBrown-ti1un Bro I can say I was having breakfast with Kendrick that morning. But it's not even like that I just wanna know who he is to understand the credibility of his takes/stories.
That Kobe v Lebron comparison to Kendrick v Drake is spot on imo...also no B.I.G disrespect will be tolerated...he would outrap 99% of the rappers that came after him and are alive today...him being murdered so young doesn't take away from his GOATness...that's my opinion
Used to love BIG but later in life I realised all his raps is cap. Big Poppa having threesomes, shooting, robbing & running from the police 😂 Come on Big, U ain't getting away from shit or getting bitches with your eyes facing east & west at the same time 😂
I don't think so. Biggie was good but got out rap by method man on his 1st album. What are we talking about?
@@machvibeproject4884 we have differing opinions...that's ok
The analogy of Kendrick vs Drake and Kobe vs LeBron are not the same in my opinion. In no way shape or form. We all know Drake uses reference tracks and people write alot of his music. Where is the apology to compare with what Kobe did vs LeBron.
@rayb2410 well he explained in detail how they’re similar. Because lebron brought more eyes to the game and kinda brought everyone in the league together. Drake does this as a rapper. Whereas Kobe didn’t care about anything but winning and they’re saying that’s how KDot is
Kev I say this with love. But please if you see this you need to let your guests talk and complete their full thoughts.
Kendrick will go down as THE GOAT of all goats, he’s only just getting started and he is only in competition with himself: that’s freedom!!
Your delusional, he ain’t better than drake or Cole
@@terencehart6457 😂😂😂😂 he mad
@@benedictadeya8370 ?
@@terencehart6457what you confused about. He said you mad lil bro. 😂😂
@@CanPen92 na bro, the same one’s who hate drake be bumping his music, I’m disappointed, all beef aside these were the worst disses I ever heard and to see them backed is crazy for me, used to do music producing and I’m really tryna see what kendrick did that have y’all gassing this trashcan shh
since high school, I knew kendrick was different! I knew it. I am proud of him
Damn you look real good
@@electricman68 thank you 😊
Ok cool
Facts
@@thickivicki89 Indeed. Kendrick is a intelligent Blackman who is one of the greatest m.c.s of all times. I am a huge fan of Kendrick as well as Drake he is one of the greatest m.c.s of all times. Salute and congratulations to the brother Kendrick for all of his success.
Somebody compared KDots method to NASA preparation to go to space. They calculate every single consideration before heading to space
We will look back at this year 10 years from now and say “thank you katt” he got the ball rolling and it’s rollin fast
My favorite Pac song is "Can't C Me." Never heard nobody say that until Kev. Dope!
Can't see was sometime back my fav too. Different Pac songs are my fav at certain point in life
Drake wasn't ready and will never be. Kendrick ripped the skin off Drake😂😂😂😂😂 King Goat Kendrick
Drake enter with confidence of a lot of fans but forget that we follow the culture of hip hop kendrick always hit up with sick flows and bars which is something drake don’t have only person who can try to match up was cole when i here his withdrawal i know is over before it start
@@maandamalowa1178that’s because your biased and drake never had a shot, but he won for people can listen
Not a drake fan but his bars and witty lines were way better to most people who cares about bars
@@TheZimbeatzthe only problem with that opinion is "HIS bars" .......those weren't "HIS" and it was obvious after he spit "HIS" actual bars on the Heart pt 6(he told on himself in the outro of that song) you can't have ghostwriters in a rap battle and claim he had better bars and witty lines my guy
@@RealTrill2013 Tell us.. How did you deduce that he had ghost writers for the track that was fire but apparently write the one that was contentious ? LOL
The man can't get a word in edge wise!! Damn!
Problem is right. Also Tupac IS the most influential rapper imo.
1. Tupac
2. Nas
3. Jay-Z
4. Kendrick
5. Ice Cube
6. Rakim
7. Snoop
8. Lil Wayne
9. Biggie
10. Eminem
This my top 10 tbh
Nice list may I ask where you’re from
I’d argue Rakim is the most influential. He’s the Dr. J of Hip Hop
I will say being a huge mega fan of Tupac since i was 13 years of 1993 that he is definitely one of the most inflential hip hop artists of all times, as well as Rakim, Nas, Big Daddy Kane, Cube, LL Cool J, Kanye, Snoop, Biggie, Jay-Z & Kanye.
How inflential a hip hop artist is one of the criteria that a hip hop artist must have in order to be consider the greatest m.c. of all times.
I remember reading in XXL Magazine in 2002 something that LL Cool J said that the crown or title of the greatest m.c. of all times does not necessary go to the hip hop artist that can rap greater than all the rest of the m.c.s, but the greatest m.c. of all times go to the hip hop artist who can name more reasons why they can earn that crown or title.
No bad
Kendrick has entered the West coast mt Rushmore convo.
Dr-PAC-Snoop are irreplaceable, but that 4th spot is between Kendrick,Cube,Eazy E,Ice T,E-40,Too short, Dj Quik.
Dre wasnt a rapper an was terrible
@@dikarilee4975 he doesn’t have to be ,I’m taking about West coast rap
Kendrick is my guy, but he ain't on Mt. Rushmore yet. He definitely creeping up on goat status. On the mountain: Too Short and Ice T. Both put the Bay and LA on the map rap wise.
Snoop is overrated, BAD. No bars. Weak af. Most overrated dude ever. Dre is better than snoop cause at least he can produce music.
The story that Jason told was like when I was a kid and a Tyson fight was on. If you went to the bathroom, by the time you came back, the fight was done. 😂🤣
I don't y'all hip hop heads but anyone thats a Prince fan isn't amazed by anything anyone does. Prince was his own writer, producer, engineer, composer, band etc all at 17. Started writing songs at 7.
TELL THEM
Prince could pick up any instrument and play it like a virtuoso within 20 mins.
@@apollyon1📠 (except horns). The 🐐
1 and 2 been Hov and Dot for me as well for a while now. If this next project Kendrick drops is as good as his previous work then he’s number 1 imo
“U might get cracked again.” 😂
This clip going down in history
When the host talk over the guest
I be mad af
This man had some inspiration in “Not Like Us” (the cadence)
Yeah, it's all eyes on me, and I'ma send it up to Pac, ayy
Put the wrong label on me, I'ma get 'em dropped, ayy
Sweet Chin Music and I won't pass the aux, ayy
Now that you point it out... I get it.
The Nas disregard is crazy. Illmatic changed everything about hip-hop in the 90s. Nas ushered in a new style & content that wasnt being discussed outside of G Rap or Rakim. Pac is referenced by every "influential" rapper yall named. Pac is hands down the most influential. Every single decade his cadence, image, and name is referenced. From Ja Rule to DMX to Jay. Kanye to Nip and and Kendrick. Wayne to Boosie. No matter the region or era, it's Tupac Shakur. Let's not get crazy.
And Nas is still dropping bangers till this day.
Nas is my Fave!!!
J cole vs Kendrick would of actually been a great battle
THE debate is OVER. Kendrick Lamar has been 👑THE G.O.A.T. of his class and era.
Now I know RDC World was right 😂😂
What they say lmao
“I’m dropping”
In the dark with no lights on looking at his laptop:
"I expected it"
@@k2datrack right I remember now lmao
Facts🤣🤣🤣
Steph is a goat who took no shortcuts. Don’t compare him to drake
He got lucky enough to have a great coach and a GM who drafted klay and draymond.
@@jaden5843 Steve Kerr is not a great coach u dummy
No shortcuts except have 4 All Stars by his side and going to the Hamptons to beg KD to come save him after choking a 3-1 lead lmao. Steph got other niggas carrying him & winning Finals MVPs on his own squad just like Drake got other niggas writing for him and taking the credit for it lol
@@jaden5843Don’t forget KD was on that team. No shortcuts lol
@@jaden5843no. The GM and coach ere lucky to have him
5:38 J. Cole makes a mistake, and what others deem to be a show of weakness(which was really wisdom) and people out here talking crazy. Cole is a master Of his craft. Which is the craft of hip hop. Drake is a master of marketing and performing, acting, and has the entire machine behind him. And drops hits. But in terms of rap. Cole, and drake are not at ALL in the same arena. Kendrick is an artist. A true genius of art. And culture. He transcends hip hop even though that’s his medium. So he is in an area a of his own. And Eminem, specifically MMLP em, and even SSLP, and Eminem show too, he is in that arena with Kendrick. And y’all always sleep on Lupe, if we’re just talking lyricism, and artistry, delivery. Lupe F&L and The Cool. Shit he is still yet to be fully understood in terms of that level of skill. But drake makes hits. He isn’t top 20 in terms of rap. I’m sorry, he just isn’t. There’s too many greats that get slept on by the mainstream(teenage demographic) to even insult hip hop like that. Not even too 50. But a MASTER marketer. And related to the industry, if ykyk
That part! When kev mentioned talking to drake fans for 3 weeks was irritating. They’re mediocre fans of hip hop that love pop culture. Kendrick runs laps around Drake.
you can have your faves growing up whose music means more to you, but anyone who refuses to recognize that Kendrick is legitimately in the top 10, if not 5, greatest OF ALL TIME dead or alive, thats just contrarian talk. based on the strength of the discography alone, Kendrick clears most anybody. his message? he impact? his skill level? his artistry? takes him even further. now with this decisive battle win won in the fashion he did where its truly public, uncontestable and culture-shifting, he's not only made a space for himself in that ranking, he mighta just created an entire new requirement for anyone who wants to follow after him
Put J Cole in the same category as Drake is wild Drake cant fuck with J Cole rap wise
Don't pull no coffin out your mouth man we heard it from horses mouth" the spiderman meme me looking at drake"
Kendrick vs Drake was Spence vs Crawford… we all saw how that went… 😌
It was more like one of them gervonta David fights ⚰️
I’m with Kev, Euphoria is an amazing diss record. Best record of the beef
Kendrick is the GREATEST RAPPER TO EVER LIVE. Felt that way since TPAB
This by far has to be the biggest dick rider comment I have ever read in my entire life 😂
6:44 “off wit his head”
Pop fans participating in a rap battle was wild
DOT is like Kobe don't change that stay with that energy. I mean he's the G.O.A.T bruh... hard to see who's better on all levels. KDOT got everything and can he can rap on every level.
LA loving it
The fact that we’re comparing a 24 year old man, who has passed over 20 years ago to all these artists of all ages, that still have only come close to matching his artistry… yeah. 11:34
i didn't know Problem was close to dot like that , that's dope
They grew up in the same section of Compton
@@moet-nectar oh wow haha
The only way steph is like drake is their light skin and thats it. Curry is all hard work and loves the game of basketball. Drake leaves the hard work to the producers the ghost writteres the reference track. Dude is trippin.
MF DOOM is in my top 5
Love this as someone who’s complete hip hop head like yourselves. I move into newer soubds but I enjoyed this battle. I had Kendrick to win but I had no idea so master minded with recording 10 songs. That’s Kobe Jordan level. Only thing I thought Drake might do a back 2 back like song. He lacked angles on Kendrick tho.
I've been saying this for years, Drake is an actor cosplaying as a rapper
Kendrick told Drake, "i'll tell ya MOMMA you ain't shit."
And he did. He told his SON, and everybody else.
Jason's voice sound just like how he raps.
Im proud to say that, the first drake song i lostened to till the end was Heart Part 6 because i just wanted to know what he was saying in his grave. Besides it, no drake song can captivate my attention for more than 2 minutes. My spirit just repulsed him from way back!
Petty Pendergrass LMAOOO
This was beautiful! I found out about Kendrick and Jason (Problem) when I heard Terrace Martin’s album. It was a great album and they were both nice on there. I wonder if they met during that time.
Bro don't ever disrespect steph curry.
Shuuuuut up!
Wipe your chin, bro, it's running down
he tried It fasho😭 bron - drake
k dot - kobe
it’s simple
He not like that, it’s okay.
Can't do it...Steph got 4 of them things 🏆🏆🏆🏆
Petty Pendergrass😂😂. That Damn Gemini 😂
Top Ten: 1. Krs One, 2. Black Thought, 3. Kendrick Lamar 4. Andre 3000, 5. J Cole, 6. Eminem 7. Redman 8. Biggie 9. Wayne 10. Busta Rhymes(Cube can easily switch with the bottom 2, depends on how I'm vibing at the time).
Not having Nas in there is crazy
Not having LUOE FIASCO & NAS is crazy.
You gotta be like a 20 year old hip hop enthusiast still researching the culture.
Bro, you. not like us😂
You put cole over Eminem??? You are crazy 😂
Where’s Tupac?? 👀
@@earlmiii552Lupe Fiasco? 💀
He actually predicted and warned those in Rich Spirit... "Stop Playin wit me for i turn you into a song" "Spirit Medium... are you strapped brother" Warning shots a year ago 🤷🏽♀️ Fuckin Genius ❤🥰🤴🏿
Drake and J.Cole are not in the same arena. The second wildest reach I’ve ever heard
Papoose walked so Kendrick can win!
Top lyricists
Papoose
Remy ma
Cassidy
Jcole
Wale
Kendrick Lamar❤
Rhapsody
Em in em
Joe Budden
Slaughterhouse
Lupe Fiasco
Bang. This is what needs to be discussed!!! Top lyricists! They are poets and deserve respect
Natural, pure, artistry these are the prophets, and visionaries in real life. They cannot be using their art for evil they deserve to earn a living for their craft and not be sacrificed or placed in some slave contracts that drain their souls and energy.
And if you talk about influence you have to have BONE THUGS N HARMONY
I don’t care what nobody says, that’s when a lot of R&B groups were sing rapping, they got that from Bone. Destiny’s Child was one of them…I couldn’t understand why they didn’t say where they got their influence from? True Bone fans knew though
Damn Kev come up for air!!!
Imagine what disses we won't hear 😅
Euphoria is the best diss track, you can tell who has been to a rap battle...Euphoria is a master piece
saying Drake is Lebron and Kendrick is Kobe was the best example
Simply put Drake is an entertainer, Kendrick Lamar is an artist.
"Petty Pendargrass" ...... that's a dope nickname lol
Kendrick is the GOAT for me simply because he embodies so many past GOATs while somehow being better then they were and on top of it, he's consistently never switched and tried to be what's popular. His music low key never stepped in the glorifying money, hoes and murder trap
Did problem ride his Harley to the pod with those dam gloves on 😂😂
yea thats why we aint listening to NOTHING he saying looking like MC Hammer
The Lebron comparison is perfectly apt lmao
It's basically Crashout Kenny, Em, and 3 Stacks. Everybody else is 2nd and 3rd tier, respectfully.
Love 3 stacks but never producing a solo project is rough
In terms of what?
Not lyricism… that ain’t top 3.
They’re all A tier lyrically.
There’s an S teir (Lupe, Black Thought etc)
@@conduitofthegospeldarrellb9154 LMAO OK...
Do not .. I repeat. Do not sleep on A Compton Story..... By Jason Martin AKA Problem...... 🔥🔥🔥
Em is a industry 🪴 along with Drake. Drake is a Pop Rapper, Em is a Pop MC. We’ve heard the songs where he disrespected FBA’s calling our sistas the b word and saying the n word. If a outsider has no respect for our ppl the he’ll never be a GOAT in this culture. 👌🏾👌🏾👌🏾
I’m glad I clicked on this video, I didn’t realize this was Problem. I’m here for the rebrand
‘Jason Martin’ lol nah bruh I ain’t going. That’s Problem.
“I aint going” from “Malcolm X” made me giggle
@@SweetieMs 😂😂😂
I’m like who is this nigga that sound like problem 🤣🤣🤣
Kendrick on that IRON MIKE LEVEL. Can't blink crodie
Problem.....whaaaaatt
Greatest rapper to ever live you must be 13
Before this beef, to me kdot was over biggie and pac as a RAPPER. It’s time folks
Drake never got dissected like Kendrick did him. Drake has been riding the wagon so long he got roasted.
“Some ppl you have to leave the fck alone!”-Kev . “Sometimes you gotta pop out and show 🥷- Kendrick 😂
Great convo! Drake stans gonna be mad
They STAY MAD and looking like they go end it all!😂😂Meanwhile he outside making BORING new music and getting his nails and toes done in French tips!🥱
Kendrick really waiting to start this beef up ALL OVER AGAIN?? lmaoooo yoooo Yeah Drake better not say one fuckin word
“THEY SAY JESUS IS A KIND MAN/WELL HE SHOULD UNDERSTAND TIMES IN THIS CRIME LAND” 2PAC “BLASPHEMY”
Yall draining Kendrick's Nuts right now 😂😂
😑 u can’t even tb ppls talents anymore without mfs tb u dsn lol grow up and quit hating nigga
Pac is the most influental especially in and outside the genre. Kanye is influental but he's goofy. Both aren't close to being the best lyrically tho
wait hold on isnt this Problem ??? WHAT
lol I thought I was tripping this is problem right ?
Yup,he's going By His government now
Lol its not impossible to not listen to Drake, I've mostly avoided it since he's been out.
LeBron didn’t change basketball.
He meant it in the way that Bron made it cool for superstars to be too buddy buddy and team up. Which was not a good thing competitive wise.
He made it cool for free agent superstars in they prime to go team up. Don't recall that happening much before Bron
Lebron changed free agency and made his own path.
Kendrick , jayz,lupe fiasco, eminem are masters of entrandras!!!
Lupe gets no love and it's a shame. The Cool is my favorite album of all time