Why Guitar Players Love 4 Way Switches In Telecasters
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Emerson 4way switch kit
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4way switch
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Treble bleed
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From Leo: I love the 4 way conversion. It lets me make the bold rocker sounds and still lets me twang like a tele should be able. I still do it the old way with an Oak Grigsby switch. On a production line, the one extra piece of wire and the little extra for a switch could not cost them $2.00. I don't know why they don't all come that way.
I was given a 920D four way as part of a birthday gift.
Installed it in my swamp ash tele and was dumbstruck.
It's freakin' awesome.
Heck, my Fender Ultra has the series switch (when you press it) and the Fender Japan Hybrid II also has the series position at the 4th pickup position. Love it!
I didn't see the link to the wiring diagram in the description, could you please add it?
I built my own version of a Richie Kotzen tele. I installed Tone-King and Chopper-T pickups and wired it through a 4-way switch. I don't have a boost circuit, but that's what pedals are made for. ;)
Your stock is going way up with this one! 🎸😎🎯
Well.. Phil you've done it again. Bravo.. cheers to you and my next Tele mod! 🎉
You're the best! KYG!! ❤️🎸💯
Quite a versatile sounding tele.
A MORE versatile Tele...
Sorry, I'm a Tele fan.
Killer demonstration! Sounded so much fuller!
How cool. This is an upcoming project -- this weekend or next. Already bought the switch, but this Fender one is a better deal. And another common mod while I'm at it: flip the switch plate so the switch is away from the strumming hand and the pots are closer.
I just traded a j mascis jazzmaster for a Baja tele and that thing is my favorite guitar, ahead of multiple Gibsons and a strandberg. It just sounds so so good with the switching options.
I love my 4 way switch on my tele, it made that 52 reissue into a punk rock beast mode guitar!
ObsidianWire makes a nice 4 way kit too. I love the series position in my Tele. I also found that Tonerider will wire the neck pickup ground wire specifically for the 4-way switch for no additional cost. I use that position way more than i thought i would.
Me too, Phillip! I even did it to my G&L ASAT Special with the big MFDs. Peace!
Short sweet and to the point, cool!
Very cool stuff you can do with a Telecaster. I have the Seymour Duncan 53 Tapped Tele pickups and I use a 5-way switch. Those are Seymour's favorite Telecaster pickups.
From their website:
"The tapped bridge pickup uses smooth Alnico 2 magnets, while the untapped reverse-wind/reverse polarity neck pickup has focused Alnico 5 magnets for a complementary tonal balance. Use with a standard Tele 3-way switch and push-pull pot for the tap, or wire it using Seymour’s custom wiring diagram, with a 5 way switch, for maximum tonal options (diagram and 5 way switch included when purchased as a set)."
I highly recommend these pickups. The tonal variations are incredible and all of them sound good in their own way. They're a little bit more pricey but worth every penny. And having five different switch options makes it all the more fun.
I bought noiseless tele pickups from fender for my Baja Strat which comes with this four way switch but hadn't installed them yet....video is reminding me i need to hurry up and do that already
prewired kit is simple and sounds great
My American Pro II Tele has this on the push push tone knob. Don’t use it a lot but it’s a cool option for something different.
If it didn’t come with it already, I’d probably do this mod. Good short video 👍
i've had a tele with a 4 way switch mod before, and a tele with 3 way switch but with a push-pull knob that activate series wiring regardless of pickup selector position. i prefer that now over 4 way, because it switches faster and prevent confusion.
Did I miss the link to the wiring diagram? I didn't see it in the description
I love my push-push American professional 2 Tele. That’s the reason I got it in the first place lol
Great thing about a Tele, Whatever you do to them, makes them better! It's very hard to make them worse!
I see what you did there. ;-)
I have done this four way switch modification on my Jet JT-350 SS Butterscotch and the additional series option does gives you another tone, plus I fitted Fender Vintera pickups at the same time. I wired the four way switch: Neck : Middle (series) : Middle (parallel) : Bridge.
I might give the treble bleed a go - thanks for the great video Phil.
?? Phil , could we get the link for the wiring diagram for the telecaster with 4 way switch and treble bleed? ❤
Out of all the ultras, that is my favourite one and impossible to find for me . Super job Phil
Thank you Phil. I love this geeky stuff. 🎸🤖👍🏼👍🏼
I have this modded into a separate switch on my tele so I have a 3-way switch with a little dip switch to switch between series and parallel. It’s a lot of fun and in a pinch could probably get me a decent sound for any genre of music.
Your term "little dip switch" has a poetic "ring" to it...
I now have a new insult, which I'll only use when speaking to somebody in person - "Listen, you LITTLE DIP- SWITCH..." (then add- on the point of contention, with proof)
-Thanks, Mark T, Michigan
If you add a middle pickup and blend it with the series middle sound. It’s an instant funk
I put a 4-way switch in my Tele a long time ago. Definitely makes a different sound. It can almost pass for a humbucker. I don't find that I use it that much though.
All my teles have this mod. Emerson kits are hi quality and an awesome option. I also favor SD quarter pound pickups, or Twang Kings. So versatile and just a lot of fun.
I am totally doing this. Muchas gracias!
The Fender "Baja" Telecaster had the best wiring scheme- a 4 way switch and the S-1 switch to get out of phase sounds as well , so you got a total of 6 sounds out of it. And they had added circuitry to level out the volume when you were running in series. I actually use that circuit on a US Made Deluxe Telecaster as I prefer it.
Nice, I like that. May put it on my mod list.
I want an ultra in that color!
Lovin' that Tele Phil !! Maple Neck and Board gives it that spank a Tele should have !
I have not yet particularly cared for a 4 way switch in an SS Telecaster. My experience is this: the series setting with clean tone is indeed a volume boost that is not unlike switching to a humbucker, but it’s not the neck humbucker tone for those warm Jazzy cleans a Tele with a neck humbucker can have. On the overdrive side, it pushes a pedal to overdrive more, but isn’t really a volume boost unless it’s just off completely clean with a lot of headroom left. My soloing overdrive Tele tones tend to come mostly (but not solely) from the bridge pickup, so that series setting doesn’t help there.
It is a tonally interesting feature to mess around with but I am not sure it works for me, yet, on a bandstand or gig.
Perhaps not surprisingly, I have yet to find that bonding and happiness with a Humbucker neck/single coil bridge Tele, either in gigging situations. I don’t find it’s an instrument that plays effortlessly with itself, and I’ve found myself being distracted by the output and tone of an HS Tele, trying to make those different pickup types in different places work together, seamlessly. Some day, maybe…
3 positions is better for me. Front , both, back. I hate an accidental jump in volume from switching pickups. (That’s what a pedal is for) The tone in series isn’t awesome anyway.
Hi Phil, where’s the wiring diagram?
It would be cool if someone could make a 4-way switch to fit Mustangs and Duo Sonics or do a pickguard to accommodate one.
People have told me for years that there is no point to running pickups in series, and I will say that it adds a lot of versatility in a guitar with a bass control (which all guitars should have).
Cool I think I learned and it stuck alittle bit !!!
Hey, Phil-any experience with the Freeway blade or toggle switches? The 3x2 way switches give six positions and in the most common use people wire the normal three ways plus series in-phase, series out-of-phase, and parallel in-phase.
I love it 😀
I have what i consider the best tele ever made. A Baja. It comes with the 4 way switch as stock. It also has two more out of phase tones when you engage the S switch. Custom shop pickups, soft v neck, butterscotch and blackguard with ash body all under 7 lb
Will that work with 2 Humbuckers in a Strat like on big Humbucker?
???Will a 4-way switch allow for hum-cancelling (like a humbucker) with two regular single tele pickups (like in the Player series)???
I don't understand what "reverse" "series" "parallel" etc.... exactly means (I have a 2011 Fender American Telecaster with just regular modern wiring/ 3-way switch currently). Would be nice to have a hum cancelling option though! Thanks
I'm thinking of doing this with a jazz bass, since fiddling with individual volumes isn't my favorite thing in the world. Would it be just the same aside from needing to cut a new plate?
THANK YOU
I have OCD, so almost all of my guitars are Ibanez RGs (I love the body and headstock shape, plus they feel and sound great to me, I would love to get a JEM, JPM, RT, etc, just love the shape), I have 7 RGs and a Schecter C-7 (which goes in it's case, my stand is currently ibanez only, the RGs and an SR405EQM 5 string bass), but I kinda want a Tele... I guess I could keep it separate with my Fender acoustic/electric and Jazz Bass... 🤔 You've pretty much sold me on the Tele idea, Phil, thanks... 🙄🤑😂
????can you leave it with the button pushed in - in any position and it won't hurt the guitar or pickups????
...a little out of nowhere here, but I'd love to see a deep dive on the Squier Paranormal Nashville Strat--it's essentially a Nashville Tele in a double bound Strat body. I want one, and it seems like the recent Fender Nashille Teles have noiseless pickups and, yeah, I'd hate to have a Tele with a raunchy sounding bridge pickup. Like, that would wreck everything. Anyway, it comes in at about $425...
Every Tele should have a 4 away switch. Why Fender doesn’t do this as a standard wiring is mind blowing. Doesn’t change any tone and a great option.
This would upset the purists
Now take your Strat and make it possible to switch between parallel and series for any combination of 2 or 3 pickups. I’ve done it. VERY flexible and 😎
It’s the best thing
My Baja 50s Telecaster has a four-way selector, plus a phase switch. It's odd this isn't standard in more expensive versions.
Sonzera looks like a winning amp if they got rid of that more than noticeable hiss. Is there a tech explanation for why it's even there?
Cool
I must be missing something. If the switch is 4 positions, why do you have to press the knob to change the position to parallel.
the position shod be at the switch.?
Cool mod!
First like first comment.. at least according to my phone.. anyway gotta grab one of these
Series/parallel preference really comes down to the individual guitar and pickups. Having both isn't always practical or even beneficial. Depending on what your after, I've found that in most cases theres gonna be one way that just sounds better. The other options fall to the wayside. Having endless switching options is almost always kind of a waste. Figure out what you like best and keep it simple.
In that case, you must only have one pickup ? Because two is a waste ? I can’t really see why a switch that already has 3 positions becomes a waste when it has 4 ? Same with the phase switch, you don’t know it’s there, so what’s the negative ? Play a Les Paul junior if you want simple, it has a great tone.
Only one of my Teles doesn't have the 4-way. It's the one with the Filtertrons...
Phil, if the single pickups are not noiseless or are wound traditionally where they don't cancel hum in the middle, will the "humbucker" position cancel the noise? Thanks.
If they're wound Reverse polarity to each other yes.
Yes, any two true single coils with one having reverse wind, reverse polarity to the other will cancel some 60 cycle hum in the combined switch position.
This is how a typical Stratocaster works in positions two and four... unless it has 50s style wiring.
Can you just wire them in series from the start and skip parallel all together 💯✌🤟🤘
I bought a 5-way switch from Monty's Guitars
I avoid the need for a treble bleed and just use a 1 meg volume Pot and a no load Tone pot to boot 😊
I've never cared for the series option. When I go to the middle position, I want a thinner sound, and in series, it looses that positions character.
So let me get this straight. When the number is higher, it’s hotter and the pick up sound more big and heavier? Because I seen these situations on UA-cam where they measure the pickup and they give us these numbers but freakin never tell us what these numbers mean!!!!
Very good question, to a BAD TEACHER - He's using a "MULTI- METER", that measures a dozen things (VOM, common, is volt- ohm- miliamps) - but DOESN'T SAY WHAT HE'S METERING.
- I play acoustic, above average (years) just getting into electrics.
- So I'm "not allowed" into the cult, of pickup mods ?
**My reasoning is that he's metering RESISTANCE (Ohms, see the selector- dial), but it's a SHIT- POOR EXCUSE FOR A TEACHER, who doesn't start out by taking 2 SECONDS to state that : "For you beginners, we're metering Ohms..."
PS- After watching 4 times, reading the comments - He reads the meter (once) as "10"K" ( or whatever number), so the meter must be measuring resistance - ohms - though if it's "9K", that's 9 THOUSAND Ohms.
- Another problem here, is that resistance creates heat - but I don't think he literally means "heat".
I'm a beginner at electric mods, so - my GUESS is that a pickup with higher resistance will create a larger, louder signal - when run thru the amp.
** I could be COMPLETELY WRONG, but have the identical question as you.
- We prolly won't get an answer here, so I guess the best would be to POLITELY ASK at the repair counter of a guitar shop that does repair, or mods like this - or ask a guitarist who will be kind enough to answer OUR "dumb question".
** I think the meter is set to "Ohms- K", that- is RESISTANCE.
- Good Luck, later, dude...
- Mark, Michigan 8MARCH24
you've got it basically straight. pickup output (electric current) is generated by the coils of wire wrapped around the magnet in the pickup, as the strings' vibrations break the magnetic field lines. generally, the more wire in the coils, the more output (volume) for the pickup. the measurement of resistance (as you correctly inferred) is basically a proxy measurement of the amount of wire in the coils - the more wire, the more resistance, and the higher the output - "hotter" pickup. the resistance of the pickup is not the actual issue, rather just an indicator of the amount of wire in the coils. sometimes the terms "overwound" or "hot-wound" are used to describe pickup coils with extra windings that sound louder. Phil has done several vids on this and I think he often explains, but as you point out, not here. I also found googling "what is the meaning of measuring resistance in guitar pickups?" returned some useful information. hope this helps!
@marktulk4225 not a bad teacher, it's been covered on his channel multiple times. Just the same as him, if I have said something several times, and have videos addressing that very issue, I'm not gonna always give an explanation to something I've already covered a dozen times over. He ain't a bad teacher, if anything, anyone saying that is a lazy student.
On top of this channel it's been covered on several others as well. It's a pretty wide spread and understood test that can give an indication to how a pickup may behave. This guy has done so many how-to videos, and offered so much advice and tech tips over the years it's insane. If you missed class that's on you to do your homework and review the older material. Not his fault you're lost.
why would anyone pay over 100 for a switch caps and a resistor? I guess if you cant solder it makes sense. I have never wired my teles like this, but might give it a shot. the middle pos on teles has always been just so so for me.
Maybe I'm just tired, but isn't this a 3-way switch with an S-1 switch? The Fender 4-way with the S-1 adds out of phase too. And as the video is playing I think I see that he is saying you could replace the 3-way and S-1 with a 4-way...but why do that when you could have a 4-way with the S-1?
I must be the odd man out. I don't think the series sound is that good on a tele. I did this mod many years ago and then removed it after a couple of gigs after mistakenly landing on the series sound when I wanted parallel. It's a cool mod, but not something for me .......but a proper Nashville tele. That's where it's at IMO.
Why wouldn’t you!?!
You know what I wonder about your demos? Why don’t you chop up a guitar cord with a set of test leads and make a dedicated measurement plug? Just wondering. You do you I do me.
This won't work in my Tele. Mine has 5 pickups. 😊
Why U want less twangy tele I dunno....
This doesn't make your tele less twangy. It just gives you one extra sound - the middle position on steroids. The other the positions are no different from a three way switch.
I don't 😂
$110 bucks for the prewired kit? You gotta be kidding me....Hey everybody, don't buy that shit. Just buy a simple 4 way tele switch for less than $10 bucks and solder it in for yourself. Takes 5 minutes.
@jcout The Emerson kits are somewhat pricey but not quite as offensive as you imply. The paper/oil cap is an expensive part like $20-$30 just for that alone (you either believe in the mojo there or you dont) and then you get the pots, the switch, the jack and the bit of labor in putting it together for you. Yeah if you don't care about all that stuff and you think what you already have for parts besides the switch are good enough then you can certainly save yourself a bunch.
For real you could get the whole setup for under $20 with pots, caps, treble bleed and the 4 way switch.
He literally said that in the video. Did you pause the video in the middle and then make a comment without watching the rest of it? LOL
Yes...because any time somebody tries to sell the people snake oil, I feel it's my duty to tell the people to save their money. @@BlueBenGo
I's more offensive than I implied. The emerson kit will do NOTHING for your tone. Nothing at all. Anybody who says they can hear the difference are full of shit. The major tone influences are the way the guitar is played (technique), and the speaker in your amp. It's why Satch always sounds like Satch, regardless of him playing his Ibanez.@@7171jay
To me sounds a way better without
I must be missing something. If the switch is 4 positions, why do you have to press the knob to change the position to parallel.
the position shod be at the switch.?
The one he has has an S1 pots (like a push-push) on the volume instead and can be a substitute for 4th position
Cool