Should Muslims Like Me Be So Critical of Ex-Muslims?
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- Опубліковано 29 вер 2024
- To tell the truth, I was one of those Muslims who wanted ex-Muslims to go away. I resented how their voices were coopted by the far right as proof Islam is rotten at its core. Then I met some in person.
If you think someone should be killed for changing faiths... please seek mental health before you hurt anyone!
nobody should be killed, dont forget about the native Indians who where totaly killed by americans. and the americans are stil killing innocent people. is that also religion( muslims) or atheïst people
@Jos Bankston you are a liar now. i just was seeing you're referce. and it is not correct what jou are whritting here. that's the problem whit atheïst people they think they now everthing about islam. stay with youre monkeystory, its better for you
Mazouz s there is no Book that tells To kill indians or you Go To hell... Quran on The other side is homophobic and teachers To hit your wife If She doesnt obey you
I am muslim and I wont kill a ex muslim
Its just a couple of people
Cuz I know that on judgement day everybody gets there punish ments
Ko- Jap you shouldn’t
"Should Muslims Like Me Be So Critical of Ex-Muslims?" The answer is no.
Wow you saved sharia congrates here have a medal
We aren't criticizing Muslims, we are criticizing Islam
@Concorde that sounds like something called "intolerance"
@Le Kot I don't believe in him why do I ask him for forgiveness?
Critical yes threatening no
As an ex Muslim
To all the peacefull Muslims out there that are willing to reapect other''s different opinions i love you all
And to those who aren't : i hope u will change for the better
@Tom Harry I disagree yes there is many ex Muslims in the stage of like anger and stuff but a lot of us criticize ideas,same way how Muslim apologists criticize Christianity,Hinduism
@Tom Harry well that’s you really u r telling me mo hijab and Farid responds are not biased
@Tom Harry I agree with the twitter u do realize that like in Reddit a lot of Hindus nationalist are posing as ex Muslims right their arguments are weak
@Tom Harry u can have doubts of Islam by the content of ex mMuslims but questioning should come from within yourself
@Tom Harry bro ok u r judging a whole community by a actions of few and listen u don’t think Muslim apologists are biased?
Nothing says "my religion is awesome" like having to force people to adopt it at gunpoint or threaten their lives if they try to leave.
"Look how amazing this religion is. No one wants to leave it (because they'll be executed if they try..) Enjoy us"
Yes you are right
The quran states that religion is not compulsory
@@123Peopl Yea and it also says people who leave the faith must be killed.
@@nsebast But then it doesn't...
This is a real awesome video. I'm glad that there are Muslims that can understand some ex-muslims like myself and the dialogue is really important because we _are not_ on opposing sides!
@Nuaym Umair how many stars in galaxy ?
Anything that cannot be criticised is definitely a danger to society.
Support from Syria
We need that here too 💔💔
Mame ur group so huge that even govt will fear taking action against you..they cant jail millions of ppl..they cant kill millions of ppl..so make ur group so big that it start catch eyeballs..
Btw exmuslim from india..we are millions in no. In india..jjst join these groups if u cant do such a tivities in big no.the more u will share and like thse tupe of content it will automatically start trending in your county..and ppl will watch it will stary realising the truth..
Spread trusth by just liking or sharing these type of pages..in the end i would say..i am awsome without allah.
@@helpinghand862 you are ex mushlim from India?? Seriously??
@@sudiptaghosh8511 fake it cell propoganda
@@sudiptaghosh8511 there are ex Muslims everywhere take Iran for example only 40% identify themselves as Muslims whereas rest don’t
I cannot believe the interviewer partially changed his position in the midst of the interview. Awesome
Yup all set up to normalize and change the narative of the relegiom
3:16 , Indonesia should be on the list aswell.
As an Indonesian Christian, Indonesians doesn't kill apostate. So indonesia should not be on the list.
@madone 05 yes, even many joined ISIS.. but our government doesn't tolerate any act considered as crime (not in Islamic viewpoint).. even many religious leaders are in jail for their provocative dawah, and caused some issues during our last presidential election. They even called our current president as islamophobe back then which is funny since he is a Muslim
@حج I agree, but still believe themselves as Muslim even though they don't do mohammed's order which basically make them non Muslim as you said
I lived in Utah for 2 years and met so many Mormons. Generally speaking there all very nice and sweet. But there was this one incident that stood out to me. When someone I knew left the religion and her family disowned her and wanted nothing to do with her anymore. (She was only 14). I don’t think this reflects anything on Mormons them self’s. But it’s always the bad things that speak louder and portray a bigger image. This is probably the cause for all the hatred, violence, and separation. I could me wrong. Today’s world is seriously fucked up.
The best Muslims are ex muslims
I am so happy I found this channel
A lot of religions treat apostates poorly, but I think ex-Muslims are in a more awkward position than most apostates since they are a lot more likely to be killed/imprisoned for being an apostate, some people try to use their existence as a reason for hatred against Muslims, while others call them hateful for having any criticisms of Islam.
I'm an apostate and am v happy
PewDiePie background music? I am so sorry, I just couldn't ignore it. Sorry.
Your valuable man, respect and keep it up
"I consider myself a feminist" I hope she's watching this bro
What do you mean by 'she'?
Ex muslim? If you learn Cristian, Judaisme, Buddha, Islam, all this is the same root, but with different style of praying, open your eye, we are at the end of era, dnt be the slave of dajjal/anti crist
It's a good conversation.. Nothing earth-shattering. These ex-Muslim atheists seem like nice people and I wish them well in their quest for truth. The Muslim guy is also understanding and sympathetic to their predicament. We all need to be having these conversations and to support freedom of conscience. And they do recognize that some ex-Muslims who jump into the rightwing echo-chamber are coopted into spreading bigotry and intolerance. This is admirable given the bigotry and intolerance that is shown to them by some self-professed Muslims and governments in Muslim majority countries. Being respectful of those who choose not to follow your faith is a sign of spiritual maturity and an opportunity for growth. That applies to Muslims, Atheists, Christians, and Pastafarians.
These individuals had questions no one - they knew - had answers for. As practicing Muslims it is our duty to be brave enough to address the questions and issues that some people have and face. And for those out there making this an Islamic issue, its not, we have many incidents where Christians killed their family members because they converted to Islam. The issue here is to be open to understanding and basically just talking with sense. Wishing everyone an enlightened journey. Amen.
thank you for clearing that up, I just wish it was addressed in the video itself. It honestly lacked a lot of explanation.
Wrong. To reject the killing of apostates, the killing of homosexuals, the subjugation of women and the legitimacy of slavery is to reject Islam. Islam demands all these things. If you don't endorse them, then you are not a faithful Muslim, and God bless you for it. Islam is a false and phony religion made up by a toxic personality who was a warlord, a mass murderer, an oppressor, and a dictator. It is not compatible with an open society or democracy. Reject it, and free yourself from the delusions of a madman.
Querent2000 i wish you peace of heart and mind. It is obvious you have anger beyond words. May Allah guide you to the light. I truly wish that for you.
@@emantarawneh1481Very generous of you. Thank you. But my criticisms of Islam don't come from anger. They are simple facts.
Querent2000 Ok angry person. I usually don’t like going into discussions with aggressive and closed minded people, but here goes.
As for killing apostates and homosexuals, Please share with me a verse of the Quran (our holy book and main reference) that says that. Death penalties are always stated in the Quran.
As for slavery, it was in the Arab (and many other cultures as well) culture in which Islam began. Legislations in Islam were usually gradually introduced- such as forbidding drinking alcohol, etc. - so as not to shake societal norms and balance. Freedom of slaves was a main component of being a practicing Muslim and was requested as a means of cleansing oneself of many sins. Islam was to abolish slavey within a few years. Slavey is no longer accepted in Islam.
And as for the subjugation of women, just as an FYI, Aisha, one of prophet Muhammad’s wives was a teacher of men and women on religious issues. They attended lectures by her where she would talk to them and answer their questions. Subjugation and teaching do not go hand in hand.
It is really getting annoying for Muslims to continue to have to answer to lazy and angry people. Everyone is free to have his or her opinion, but lets try to communicate with respect, and one’s belief is their own, no one should need to defend it.
Again, I truly wish you an enlightened journey where you do your homework without previous judgements and with an open heart and mind. And should Islam continue to not make sense to you, thats fine. Just let everyone be and accept that we do not all have to be the same.
Salam (peace)
I was muslim than I become human
By..Ex Muslim
what a peaceful religion mashallah 😍
😂😂😂
I'm so happy to be free
Sarah is cute OwO
"Even among progressive muslims"~
Ali Dawah is not progressive.
Everybody have the right to choose their religion but if you are a Muslim you know what is going on in the world and it is impossible to leave
Sarah got the brain
“Are we so fragile in out faith that someone leaving it would shake our own”
@ALLAH thePIMP dont forgot the cult leader condones pedophilia and it is legal to rape a girl 6 or older
@@Fatima-jv1zf as long as apostates are killed in your religion we won't stop insulting Islam, deal with it
@@Fatima-jv1zf so islamic republics with apostasy laws are going to (imaginary)hell, go to know that 👌
And I am not religious
@@Fatima-jv1zf you know what science says on Human evolution and I am not foolish enough to believe that 2 siblings did incest and gave birth to entire human population, not only biology but even Mathematics disapproves creationism
And Btw do you believe in Flat Earth???
Not an insult, but a genuine question
@@Fatima-jv1zf your ridiculous questions can be answered with a few simple Google searches but since you still insist on your line of questioning, either out of deliberate ignorance and/or blind faith, people treat you as if you are being dishonest because based on the drivel who have asked above you don't know a thing about evolution. Evolutions starts with the first protein and carbon based molecule that could synthesize energy trapped from the sun's radiation. The error in the replication that follows of RNA proteins, lead to errors, such errors are totally random and are called mutations. Mutations cause variations in generations and as such changes accumulate, changes that would help the organism better survive get naturally selected, as the organisms with those seemingly random (genetic drift) but favourable changes, can survive longer and therefore reproduce at a greater frequency than those members that are not as well adapted. This is a continuous process, and is happening today. Evolution simply states that all beings, be it a tree or a single cellular organism share a common ancestor before the divergences caused by genetic drift guided through natural selection of the fittest individuals. It doesn't say that humans evolved from apes but that humans are apes, just one distinct and very well adapted sub species of great apes among several. We are still evolving and the humans 20 million years from now will resemble us in the same way we resemble the austropithicus Africanus. I don't know where would you get your misrepresentations of the theory of evolution from? But you sure need to read more than just one book. ✌
Criticism of any religion should not be considered bigotry.
Winston Grettum ... You misread my comment. I said criticism of religion should NOT be considered bigotry.
Spurious Effect good men right here
No criticism of any kind should be considered bigotry tbh.
Very true but that's because they have no peaceful message in islam to make a reform so it will remain the same till it dies.And remember this Christianity made the west what it is today a free open society.and to keep it that way on day we will have another crusade one that will involve all non muslims in western nations.be ready teach your kids the dangers and history of islam for they might face the war or there children if your an american you gna need to pass the info down a few generations for me a brit it wont be so long.stay safe and good luck converting some of these muslims i hope you succeed islam needs to be put in the bin of history where it belongs.
J everything you just said i already new and your 100 percent correct it is very hard for muslim to leave islam so even if you make an impact they wont tell you for fear of there own life.man sometimes i wish islam would just die off already but it will take work and time take care bro.
Many people support other people converting to Muslim but when Muslims convert they begin to hate those individuals. Why? I think a religion should be something you choose, not inheriting it before birth. It's the parent's religion, your religion should be something you believe, whether that be the religion you are currently in or something completely different. That goes for every religion out there.
they think that islam is the only truth religion. i don't want to be rude, but muslims are the least intelligent beings among homo sapiens sapiens.
"Are we so fragile in our faith as to believe that someone leaving it could shake our own"? Yes. That is exactly the problem.
It's also because Islam tells muslims that to kill apostates
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The Quran is traditionally written in the eastern Arabian dialect of Classical Arabic. Ironically Muhammad would have spoken the western dialect ofClassical Arabic originating from Mecca, so there is already an element of translation inherent in the Quran.
“al hayat” (life), 145 times; “al mawt” (death), 145 times
“al-dunya” (mundane life), 115 times; “al akhira” (the afterlife), 115 times
“malaika” (angels), 88 times; “shayatin” (demons), 88 times
“ar rajul (man), 24 times; “al mar’a (woman), 24 times
“as salihat (good deeds), 167 times; “as sayya’at” (wrong doings), 167 times
“qul” (say), 332 times; “qalu” (said), 332 times
“an nas” (people), 50 times; “an nabiya” (prophets), 50 times
“al muslimat” (Muslim women), 41 times; “al muslimin” (Muslim men), 41 times
"yawma-izhin" (That day), 70 times; "qiyama" (Judgment day), 70 times
"dunya" (near), 115 times; "akhira" (far), 115 times
"shitaa" (winter), 1 time; "sayf" (summer), 1 time
"Isa" (Yahushua), 25 times; "Adam", 25 times
The Quran says there are seven heavens above us, sometimes described as seven layers (23:17). We are in the lowest of these layers (دنيا), so the Quran is basically saying that there are six layers "above" the one we are in. The phrase ‘seven heavens’ is used in the whole Quran exactly seven times: 2:29, 41:12, 65:12, 67:3, 71:15, 17:44, and 23:86.[citation needed]
The words "Sea" and "Land" are used 32 and 13 times respectively in the Quran. 32 plus 13 equals 45, and the two words make up 71.1 and 28.9 percent respectively of those 45. These percentages roughly correspond to what we today know the proportion of the Earth's surface made up of water and land to be.
"Human being" is used 65 times: the sum of the number of references to the stages of man's creation is the same:
@@lililala6631 murtad lies, 4:89- "They wish you would disbelieve, as they disbelieved.... But if they turn away, then seize them and kill them wherever you find them, and take not from among them any ally or helper"- (this is the verse you murtads like bringing up out of context) 4:90 Except for those who take refuge with a people between yourselves, and (to) whom (there) is a treaty, or those who come to you, their hearts strained at (the prospect of) fighting you or fighting their own people...So if they remove themselves from you and do not fight you, and offer you peace, then Allah has not made for you a cause (for fighting) against them. clearly peaceful apostates arent to be killed.
The Al Baqarah is why most Muslims want to harm them.
That guy is hanging out in the West, doing it his own way and he calls that Islam, but if he were in Egypt he'd be hating his life!
Egypt? So where is the country that had biggest population of muslim? Islam widely spread.. but i tell you this, no one being kill for leaving islam.
Signs of the hour.
He'd be dead
Shit I would hate my life if I was in Egypt, Syria, Russia, France, Italy and part of the Europe too. I mean first of all I cant even speak Arabic so that would suck. USA is the best buddy and we are all immigrants. Catch me praying to Allah SWT then eating some BBQ with the homies and watching Cowboys game baby. AMERICA BABY FREEDOM
:( the ancient egyptian paganism was more ethical. Actually the christians took nearly all their ethycs from it. Why egyptians begin such idiot rather that "Dont commit injustice, dont let hungry the hunger"
Ali Dawah isn't progressive. I don't know where that came from.
Adeeb Sharif you're right, what kind of progressive man who allows men to marry his own underage daughter just because she already menstruating?
Evidence : ua-cam.com/video/j0e00CZcDl8/v-deo.html
That video's been removed bro...
Rafael Arandas aw that sucks a lot, luckily I've downloaded the video a long time ago.
@@RafaelArandas Why did youtube try to censor it.
Mr Gaudy that was dawah man, not Ali dawah
IS LAM means submission, not peace.
There is no compulsion in Islam but unfortunately some people in my religion doesn’t understand that pls blame us Muslims the followers not our religion we are only human we are not perfect but my religion is
The Non Smoker woah I was expecting well you know a rude comment back saying I was wrong and everything but thanks for understanding
@@NativeVsColonial most of us could care less about jihad. Jihad means struggle make of that what you will.
@@yamidhossain8870 Jihad means, the struggle of spreading ISLAM through violence and T E R R O R I S M.
now you can go fool someone else.
Kid I guess you look dumb 😂😂
_"Should Muslims Like Me Be So Critical of Ex-Muslims?"_
Be critical of what, their bravery and intelligence? After all, these are the people who sat down and seriously thought about their beliefs; they had the intelligence to identify errors in what they found (something that also requires intellectual courage); and they had to bravery to face the (often unthinking and cowardly) backlash.
Matthew Shute They're almost always people of limited knowledge. They often convert to atheism without knowing the basics of atheism and without critically looking at the actions of atheists!! Jokers looking for a platform!
You talk about ex-Muslims as people with limited knowledge (show me a human with unlimited knowledge and I'll be impressed), but then you talk about people "convert[ing] to atheism" and "the basics of atheism". Nobody converts to atheism, they deconvert from a theistic religion and lose their belief in theism, which makes them atheists.
If someone has examined the tenets of the belief system they were raised into, and they can no longer find it believable, what would you have them do? Pretend that they still believe it? Of course, that's a necessity in some parts of the world, where atheism (and especially apostasy) is met with inhuman persecution and punishment; but are you saying that forcing people to live a lie, to deceive others and try to deceive themselves, is a virtue rather than just a survival strategy?
Yusuf al-Qaradawi is on record as saying that if the punishment for apostasy had been abandoned, Islam wouldn't exist today. As I've asked before: if an ideology only survived because people would be killed if they left it, what does that say about the ideology?
Abdullah K basics of atheism ? Another silly Muslim,,who thinks atheism is another religion ... show me a book of atheism , morons
+Matthew Shute Matt a wise man once said" I know that I know nothing" People learn every day from birth to death!
Socrates. 😉
Against all that could hypothetically be known, we do know very little.
Some of what humans have figured out is not too shabby, however. */watch?v=2JsKwyRFiYY*
The problem is that the Quran and hadiths encourages Muslims to be very critical of ex Muslims. It's worse when you leave the religion and are consider even a bigger enemy. Sad but true
More then that, the Hadiths order there execution.
"Trying to find out for myself if there is really any reason to be afraid of American Muslims." *1 minute later* "It's sometimes dangerous for ex-muslims to talk about their experiences" Whew, that was quick.
Muhammad was only a fhilty thug...islam stincks shit.
" FOR THOSE WHO HAVE NO KNOWLEDGE: ua-cam.com/video/t86nTHTHcU8/v-deo.html
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@@salimhusain2814
1. Allah has 3 daughters.. Quran 53:19-22
2. Allah has Two Right hands.. sunnah.com/nasai/49/1
3. Allah has a Shin... Quran 68:42
@@joehouston2833 I don't know the hadith but the Quran you quoted are lies let me explain
The first verse is not talking about daughters it actually says, "And was at a distance of two bow lengths or nearer".
The second verse doesn't say that Allah had shin it says , "Nor the word of a soothsayer , little did you remember". So stop lying and googling something you don't know idiot.
I've noticed something interesting, many Muslims in the USA are different from their counterparts in Europe and the Middle East, they are not necessarily as devout, many do not attend religious services weekly, and they have very positive views sometimes on drinking, drugs, gay marriage, etc.
However, they are also very sensitive regarding Islam and will try to defend it as much as possible, although I think more due to Western identity politics more than anything; it's an interesting divide between them and Muslims elsewhere in the world
Being a Muslim means you believe in one God and prophet Muhammad is last and final messenger. You follow 5 pillars of islam. I dont have to go to any service events if I don't want to. That doesn't make me less Muslim. And in Islam we aren't forced to give up our wordly life for Islam. There should be balance. And you are literally generalizing billions of people based on your observations of select few. I am sensitive regarding Islam because my entire life in the USA I have been called terrorist and seen as an evil person out to kill people. I defend Islam because it is my god damn American right to do so.
@@juliapigworthy lol islamophobia at its finest. that was the dumbest shit i've read in a while to be honest.
There are many secular Muslims who don't practice Islam but still identify as Muslims and defend Islam as their identity. There are bigots who don't separate Muslims as people from Islam as religion and ideology. We should distinguish. Many Muslims are good people who are victims of brainwashing by Islam since they were born.
@@Uthopemus not understanding that you've been brainwashed is natural and unfortunate. It's easier to call anybody who points it out to you islamophopic. This way you don't need to think for yourself.
@@Uthopemus I read both the Bible and the Quran in translation because I wanted to know why my Muslim friend is suffering. I came to conclusion that the Quran itself is not a problem as much as Islam in the form of Islamic traditions that brainwashed you guys from birth. Some of you indeed question your religion and not just blindly defend it because you were born into it. What about you? Do you question your religion?
I support freedom of speech, Freedom of religion, freedom from religion, freedom of choice & LGBTQ+ rights for all Malaysians/Humanity♥️🇲🇾🇺🇲
You stand for nothing.
We're still Muslim in everyone eyes whether we like it or not.
I'm an ex-Muslim, because it's very unlikely that a God exists, but also because there's too much sexism, creationism, and homophobia in the orthodox community. Islam, undoubtedly needs reform and suffers from a disproportionate number of extremists, but Muslims don't all suffer from intolerance, leaving Islam hasn't cost me my relationship with my Muslim family, my parents are happy to meet my gay friends and have them stay over when i visit them, my mother's close friend's sister is also a lesbian, it's not something that's discussed, but her and her partner are invited to their family and community social events. Judge people as individuals.
Sarfaraz Hussein Merchant So you left Islam because of what the individual did. I think you need to read the Quran for yourself , and find out what Islam really is about. I hope that you restore your faith in Allah.
Fetid Tuna did you really...
Fetid Tuna, pedophilia, war, and theocratic oppression are bothersome in any environment, but aren't something that I experienced within my cultural milieu.
Parwana Shirahmad, I left because i couldn't square scientific naturalism with literalist theology, and a lack of more modern interpretations and progressive congregations to draw me into the community aspect. There are an awful lot of middle-class professional Muslims, who feel ostracised because of excessive conservatism. I still regard my identity, in part, as consisting of being a cultural Muslim.
Fetid Tuna, All religions, but Abrahamic ones in particular, have ancient scriptures that clash with modernity. The Islamic world used to be enlightened for its time, but has either stagnated or fallen into fundamentalism, due in large part to the failures of competing ideologies, while the rest of the world has moved on. The twin civilising forces of secularism and liberalism need to play the same pacifying influence on the Islamic world, as they have on other cultures, so Muslims can more successfully navigate faith and modernity, and broader emerging challenges like populism, globalization, and automation.
Although the most peaceful countries are also the most secular, religious people cannot fathom an impetus for being moral without the threat of punishment from an overseer. For a non-religious person it's troubling to think that their morality does not come from within. Are they really just a bunch of Ted Bundies under surveillance?
The most peaceful are secular.
most of the wars came from seculars, not sure what reality you live in
Secular countries are not the most peaceful lol and you simply follow the subjective morality of your society which is enforced by the law.
@@batman-sr2px no, go read history
The real problems is most Muslims simply don't take any argument from Non-muslims seriously & this results in creating a dialogue divide & ultimately leads to prejudices. {I know this because I have Muslim friends & i have tried to discuss religion with them}
So the person in the video is right to point to the fact that some hate groups use Ex-muslim arguments to further their agendas but i don't see him looking at his own biases.
They are instructed by their own clerical class (whose access to resourrces is determined by their power ) to do whatever is needed to protect the power of the belief system. Not the credibility of the belief system. But the power of the belief system. That is what is at stake. Because the belief system puts power first, and then draws credibility from it's power. It does not derive power from credibility, because it will not tolerate any discussion of credibility. And that means an expectation to control all dissent. The believers are not expected to evaluate too intensely. They are expected to respond to every threat to the power system, as if that threat was to them personally. And that is why the reaction is always negative. To maintain a system of power, which comes at a cost to individuals within it.
Every system will always have power & only the people at top of power hierarchy gets to define everything including power. Every form of belief eventually leads to power hierarchy {In Indian subcontinent it created Casteism, In Abrahamic religions it resulted in slavery and in modern Neo-liberal order it created the greatest inequality ever on earth etc.} -_- Problem is lack of internal criticism because internal criticism is what allows negotiation among different beliefs & a chance that someday we will achieve the delicate balance between optimal distribution of resources.
One thing is certain though till the 'state' is controlling the narrative & distribution it won't work.
Everything has certain amount of belief because without it there will be no trust in the world & without trust there won't be any community or society so the problem of belief in this case is with regards to it's flexibility not with belief per se.
Your argument perfectly fits Muslim mentality though.
i used to like ex muslims but seeing first hand how vehemently you want to tear us all apart i would totally be in favor of having you thrown in a dungeon or deported to a western country where you can undermine the security of the muslims living there instead
+Dingo Egret oh poor victim! Your stupid book is being torn apart and exposed! Wa wa! Deal with it!
+Sam Nikole no im thankful, i was an athiest until reverting recently. you pork fart sniffers are only galvanizing us
I have so many things to say for being an atheist at young age but I don’t want to disappoint my parents. It’s just so hard being a human in general. There’s is so many things I want to express but I’m still scared shitless.
don't worry i can relate.
Christias don't kill you if you burn the Bible
The Quran is traditionally written in the eastern Arabian dialect of Classical Arabic. Ironically Muhammad would have spoken the western dialect ofClassical Arabic originating from Mecca, so there is already an element of translation inherent in the Quran.
“al hayat” (life), 145 times; “al mawt” (death), 145 times
“al-dunya” (mundane life), 115 times; “al akhira” (the afterlife), 115 times
“malaika” (angels), 88 times; “shayatin” (demons), 88 times
“ar rajul (man), 24 times; “al mar’a (woman), 24 times
“as salihat (good deeds), 167 times; “as sayya’at” (wrong doings), 167 times
“qul” (say), 332 times; “qalu” (said), 332 times
“an nas” (people), 50 times; “an nabiya” (prophets), 50 times
“al muslimat” (Muslim women), 41 times; “al muslimin” (Muslim men), 41 times
"yawma-izhin" (That day), 70 times; "qiyama" (Judgment day), 70 times
"dunya" (near), 115 times; "akhira" (far), 115 times
"shitaa" (winter), 1 time; "sayf" (summer), 1 time
"Isa" (Yahushua), 25 times; "Adam", 25 times
The Quran says there are seven heavens above us, sometimes described as seven layers (23:17). We are in the lowest of these layers (دنيا), so the Quran is basically saying that there are six layers "above" the one we are in. The phrase ‘seven heavens’ is used in the whole Quran exactly seven times: 2:29, 41:12, 65:12, 67:3, 71:15, 17:44, and 23:86.[citation needed]
The words "Sea" and "Land" are used 32 and 13 times respectively in the Quran. 32 plus 13 equals 45, and the two words make up 71.1 and 28.9 percent respectively of those 45. These percentages roughly correspond to what we today know the proportion of the Earth's surface made up of water and land to be.
"Human being" is used 65 times: the sum of the number of references to the stages of man's creation is the same:
I hope you're doing well. I'd recommend not making any moves until you're an adult and only if you live somewhere safe, even if this means having to move abroad.
Sarah Haider is exceedingly cute
Totally irrelevant.
I know she is. There are a lot of cute muslim chicks. We gotta get them out of islam.
Not important, but God damn I agree emphatically.
Nida Abidi ...and she's pretty, too
i dont like muslims that much, but at least we can agree on the fact that sarah haider is gorgeous. and if she drops dead, ill catch her and give her mouth to mouth, my god will save her.
No my aunty is an ex Muslim and I'm Muslim wear the hijab pray and fast so does my whole family but I still love her no matter what spread love abolish hate
Very good, but you are violating the commands of Allah according to Muhammad by not killing her. Good for you for disregarding the demands of your faith to do the humane thing.
Querent2000 read that quote in context it says to kill people who attempt to kill you for being a Muslim. Islam believes only god is allowed to take a life that’s why suicide is a sin (suicide attacks are also a sin) it’s very easy to get confused that’s why it’s important to read everything the Quran says in context
@@SameerHameedy
Wrong. You don't even know the teachings of your own religion.
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@@Querent2000 and you know it cuz you watched a video on youtube hahaha
@Haqim Al-Arabia you sound like the biggest troll in the world. move out of your mom's basement and get a life
My name means "Allah's most trusted servant" or something, ironic I'm a pagan
My name means servant of Allah too and i'm an atheist, i find the irony funny so i like my name lol
@@Shivcel172 eh,I never really liked my name,always sounded stupid to me tbh
@dinden waliyyu are you a Satanist?
No?
Have you looked into Satanism yet?
Abdullah? 😂
@@sttropez8456 huda, at least, that's what my mom told me
A Slate video I enjoyed? There is a disturbance in the force.
lol indeed.
“O you who believe! Take not as (your) Bitaanah (advisors, consultants, protectors, helpers, friends) those outside your religion (pagans, Jews, Christians, and hypocrites) since they will not fail to do their best to corrupt you. They desire to harm you severely. Hatred has already appeared from their mouths, but what their breasts conceal is far worse. Indeed We have made plain to you the Ayaat (proofs, evidences, verses) if you understand.
119. Lo! You are the ones who love them but they love you not, and you believe in all the Scriptures [i.e. you believe in the Tawraat (Torah) and the Injeel (Gospel), while they disbelieve in your Book, the Qur’aan]. And when they meet you, they say, ‘We believe.’ But when they are alone, they bite the tips of their fingers at you in rage. Say: ‘Perish in your rage. Certainly, Allaah knows what is in the breasts (all the secrets).’
120. If a good befalls you, it grieves them, but if some evil overtakes you, they rejoice at it. But if you remain patient and become Al-Muttaqoon (the pious - See V.2:2), not the least harm will their cunning do to you. Surely, Allaah surrounds all that they do”
[Aal ‘Imraan 3:118-120]
“Never will the Jews nor the Christians be pleased with you (O Muhammad صلى الله عليه وسلم) till you follow their religion. Say: ‘Verily, the Guidance of Allaah (i.e. Islamic Monotheism) that is the (only) Guidance.’ And if you (O Muhammad صلى الله عليه وسلم) were to follow their (Jews and Christians) desires after what you have received of Knowledge (i.e. the Qur’aan), then you would have against Allaah neither any Wali (protector or guardian) nor any helper”
I thought this was very well done and commend slate for their contribution
yeah fuck Ikr I was shocked they gave Sarah and Mohammed a voice
really doesn't fit with their usual narrative
I like how he said "I consider myself to be a feminist" Yet Muhammad said Women are Stupid, Get lest inheritance than Men, 2 women equals 1 man for witness in Court, Men get 4 wives and Women only 1 husband... (He is like a Chicken Supporting KFC)
the fact that they had to search the audience for guns and weapons before starting their event speaks volumes
It was so very refreshing to see you approach this topic with and open mind and be thoughtful with your questions.
Anyone practicing Islam should be put in prison. Anyone forcing anyone to be a Muslim should get the electric chair.
Why dude? It should be the same for all religions. Why to Muslims or Islam only?
@@soulpriestess1953 Because it sucks a lot more and has the track record behind it that proves it.
As an atheist I love this. It’s very rare to see Muslims finding the right away considering the religion is just so pushed down your throat
In the recent game patch update, it is believed that your IQ level will increase by 31 after leaving Islam.
Great video, at least your engaging and conversing with the people who have the most experience in this area rather than shutting them off
If you think someone should be killed for changing faiths... please seek mental health before you hurt anyone!
What does "right wing" mean? Anyone who criticizes Islam? Churchill did; Orwell did; And I believe Voltaire would have. It only takes a belief in free speech to become an enemy of Islam.
chris price Churchill was thinking of becoming muslim in his early days that was before power got to his head
Abdullah k: I didn't know that, but obviously he recovered his sense later, perhaps after learning more. Whether Churchill did or not is not the point; don't follow others, but think for yourself. That is forbidden by Islam; in fact if you tell them you have changed your mind their book tells them they should KILL you. Do YOU think that is right?? That is the only important question.
chris price
You don't know much. You just find names in history and advertise them willy nilly. Did you know that after his 'Islamist phase' (once he came to his senses according to you) he was responsible for what many would call genocide? I bet not. Go as Mr Google!
As for 'free speech' ask the people you and your co-religionists have been dropping bombs on about how free their speech is?
Didn't understand any part of the rant about the 'book'. You'll have to explain what you are asking?
Abdullah K : You didn't answer my question, but just blathered irrelevantly. You holy book tells you to kill people who leave your religion. Do you deny that? And I ask again: Do you think that is right?
Actually, Voltaire is one of the reasons why the West has historically had such a rosy view of Islam. He caricatured the religion positively as a foil to say to the intolerant Europeans of his age, "Why can't you be tolerant? -- Even the barbarian Mohammedans can do it!" If Voltaire had actually written a critique of Islam, he would have been as negative as Churchill.
Thanks for giving them a fair shake. I think honest, critical, but kind dialogue between ex-Muslims and progressive Muslims is perhaps the most fertile ground for sweeping, positive change throughout all cultures most influenced by Islam.
If you did or could potentially put together a longer form version of this I’d be very interested in seeing it.
All my Muslim friends are very open to my questions, they are never offended when my curiosity causes me to overstep my boundary (at least I feel that way). They're very patient and they always have answers which I really admire.
Which country?
@@jogindergujela6276 India
@@waterfallsdontsaymeow2917 maybe they are really friendly people or maybe they are practising taqiya. Instead of asking them you should research on your own from the perspective of other side. Most people are defensive or apologist about their own religion. Just because they are polite does not mean they are honest. Please read Satyarth prakash. It is wonderful book that constrively critics with argument and logic all major religions such as hinduism, bhuddist, Christianity , islam , Sikhism , Jainism. Chapter 14 is devoted to discussion on quran. Hope it help your curiosity with islam. It helped mine. Thanks
@@jogindergujela6276 I really don't think it was Taqiya, they are very genuine and faithful Muslims. It is very interesting to have theological debates with them. It is quite interesting for me to contrast my faith with theirs. And sure, I'll read it when I get time, I find theology to be quite interesting.
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The best way to create an atheist is to get the person to read their holy books!
I don't understand how a liberal Muslim can look at their beliefs and still hold them as true. I wonder the same about liberal Christians too.
EGriff it's the reinforced childhood brainwashing. Growing up religious i had this issue. I'm no longer religious but the trauma of the brainwashing I don't think ever truly goes.
Liberal Christian? You do know Bible believing Christians are not to get involved in politics or war ? So what is a liberal? Ask Catholic pagans and dont ever call murderer Catholic " church" Christians, got it?
All I got from your reply is don't post while drunk.
+EGriff The one stupid and on drugs is you punk! I dont drink or do drugs!
I really hope English is your second language.
There around the 7:50 mark there is the video asks: _Are we so fragile in our faith that someone leaving it could shake our own?_ If the act of someone leaving Islam _does_ shake someone's faith, wouldn't that be okay too? I have heard many times that Islam wants people to question. That is, of course, profoundly untrue. But it should be true.
Well, that is what the Quran says in Surah 71, describing how Noah decided that all infidels must be killed to prevent them from having infidel offspring and causing the muslims to leave islam. Muhammad made this version of the biblical tale of Noah up in his early years, proving that he never had a period of pieceful thinking.
+Hans-Joachim Bierwirth What do you think about quran 46:9?
Surah 46 from the late meccan phase (619-622 A.D.) tries to justify the preacher Muhammad by putting him in line with Noah, Abraham, Moses and Jesus, whom he calls prophets like himself. Muhammad claims, he is preaching the same and refers to two scriptures, the Torah and a "book". In Surah 46 this book gets explicitly called the Quran while arab history claims, there was no Quran when Muhammad walked the earth. The preaching in Surah 46 claims, there are no new inventions but only confirmations. To me that sounds like Muhammad was running around with something like a bible and used it to make believe he could read it and preach from that. But that is my personal interpretation only. Standard commentary (i. e. Ibn Kathīr) goes to great lengths explaining this Surah as focussed on the conflict between the self-declared prophet and the people from Mecca, whom he threatened with total destruction refering to examples from the bible and from arab history. There is also an attempt at proving the authenticity of the prophet and "his book" by refering to miracles and witnesses although the latter refers to the two scriptures he mentions. Vers 9 is a massive threat which can be overlooked by readers unfamiliar with Muhammads phrasing. Being a warner is always used in context with total destruction like i. e. in Surah 71.
UtechS Islam is the fastest growing religion in the West. It's also not a death cult. Look at the secular West in the last two centuries and you will see who is the real death cult.
UtechS also, where in the life of Muhammad pbuh did he kill someone for leaving Islam? There are plenty of examples in the history of Islam where people left the religion and nothing happened to them. The whole death to apostates argument is one you idiots blow out of proportion by lacking context. This is why you westerners are failing in all you do. You think you can win by lying.
You can tell that Hiba has been through a lot. You can really feel the pain and suffering that she emits. It's sad; her past (and maybe even her present) has really done some damage to her.
She was wounded by Islam, and it's is a dangerous weapon that has destroyed a lot of people. The really bizarre thing about Islam is Muslims talk about how the Quran is a code of a beautiful life, but none of the Islamic countries have offer that to anybody. So Islam obviously isn't true, because the Muslim countries can't figure out how to make it work lol
You can also tell she is a very weird person.
@@pro-tection9140 Not a weapon but peace and serenity.
@@servantofallah924 your delusional and your prophet was a warlord that married a six year old child
I’m muslim. I believe Islam shouldn’t be used to justify bad choices and I believe the Quran shouldn’t be used out of context to win a point. If you have faith, you have faith. If you don’t have faith and still respect everybody that does, then you deserve respect too, as a human being. This is Islam. This is peace in its definition. Live and let people live. Everyone that does no harm deserve outer respect. I’m so tired of every kind of extremism, not just religious ones, instrumentalizing details to prove what? That they’re right about what they think? Come on. We are all the same, no matter what we think or where we’re coming from. We are made of flesh, we all have a heart.
I feel the same way as all of them (ex Muslims) but I’m much younger, and my mother hates how I am not religious .
mothers are always right
@@tamjidislam5558 no they arent
@@tamjidislam5558 Just because a person is a mother does not automatically make them right.
Hope you are safe and have figured everything out.
If you need help answering questions I can do so.
I'm a mormon, and I have dealt with a lot of ex-mormons and the complications therein, but I feel that there is much more to leaving Islam than there is with my own religion. Leaving something you've grown up with is always extremely difficult and it is admirable that they are speaking up about this subject, especially considering their personal safety concerns. Good video.
Mormons seem so sweet and nice though, in that old fashioned kind of way! And their choir is also awesome! :)
It would be different if Mormons had been the dominant religion in some country for several hundred years, and thus creators of laws & culture etc.
The attitude of those who have never been very powerful is different from the attitudes shaped by wielding power for a long time.
A lot of mormons are sweet and nice but it's frustrating for exmormons to come forward with experiences of abuse and intolerance from within the faith and have people tell them "but mormons are so nice though, why are you being so mean"
oh you think its a little different leaving islam then lds. LOL!!!
Thanks for saying nothing.
Thank you so much for doing this Aymann. People like Sarah and Muhammad are so great and it's their voices we need to hear on these topics. Too often we get the shallow Bill Maher types. We need real people with real experiences to be heard!
Iam ex catholic just recently there is politics happening inside catholic church. I dont think that is holy 😂🤦🏻♀️
I am a practicing Muslim, but I feel like it’s my place to stand up for what is right. You can’t blame the entire religion based on some stupid people. Are you telling me that once you become an atheist you will turn into angles and don’t do nothing wrong?? My question is what are you going to to once you find out that your atheists are doing bad things? What religion are you going to pick then??? It might be odd to you that I am defending Catholics, but as Muslim we are thought to do the right thing. It’s also because we Muslims know how it feels to be blamed for others wrong doing.
mma to answer your question i was once an aetheist becos of catholic. I was in a catholic religion and yet they dont give any satisfaction to what is my purpose in life. But being a human and want to change something in me i keep on searching what is the truth. And the prayers ive been asking was answered and showed me a lot of visions. God prove me everything i need to know about Him. I did not even want to be a born again before but see. Look what i found? 3 white doves right in front of me. The earthquake in the Philippines happened earlier. I have dreamed and read from the bible book of haggai. Book of jerimiah about false prophet. Book of matthew 24 that leads me to believe. I saw these all in m dreams. And the last part was the showers of fire crackers in my dreams that happened few hours in israel. I saw these in my dreams and its clear. How will i go to serve my master if i dont know my master? So He gave me a lot of reason to know Him and reading a bible is crcucial to everyone. That is the only way you could only find the truth. I even read quran but i dont feel satisfaction. I even pray to God if he was there in quran then give me answers. But no answered prayers. Book of john 10 tells “Jesus said. I am the shepered. My sheep knows my voice. And they follow my voice” I heard His voice when the first time i attended to night of worship was invited by a friend. He talked to me and said “My child, you are saved”. Have u experienced all of these things? Its not about studies. Its all about heart. Faith.
@Meryan Valenzuela damn… nice, sadly I’ve never experienced those.
Also am a former Catholic.
@@meryanvalenzuela3836 I don't know where you are now, but I think reading the Bible for yourself really helps. I know a lot of Catholics have left the church, but not necessarily God, just because they read the Bible for themselves. I think the Catholic Church has strayed a lot, but Jesus is still the same.
Glad you were finally able to be introspective enough to change your mind. Sad that it didn't happen earlier.
Also, try to generalize the experience about talking to the Right Wing: They are the only ones listening. Maybe try listening to everyone that you want to 'go away' and actually try to understand them and why they think the way they do.
>Maybe try listening to everyone that you want to 'go away' and actually try to understand them and why they think the way they do.
Or we can make them go away, with ovens.
Props to him challenging his beliefs, but he still has the dumbest smug look on his face because he believes his soul is saved by a magical sky wizard that cares whether he consumes pork or not. No, surely it's the people who see glaring problems with child marriage, murder of apostates, and Sharia law that must be wrong about Islam. My imaginary sky wizard is stronger than YOUR sky wizard and he will give me many virgins.
This is the result of centuries of inbreeding. Religion is a symptom of the dumb.
A feminist muslim who is disgusted by homophobia and believes mohammed's example wasn't pristine! Do they listen to themselves? Can't they see the contradictions? And he criticised people who had the balls to leave this stupid faith behind?
CRoumbas, my thoughts exactly. How can the followers turn a blind eye to that monster prophet's atrocities?
Just discovered your documentaries, I’m really enjoying the perspective that Islam in America provides, I have to say they are fantastic and informative and you are a respectful and calm interviewer, great work, great content, great message ✌️❤️
As a muslim I found it weird that some people hate on another because of there believes.If someone doesn't want to be a muslim anymore why do you care at least he is not being hypocrite about it.
Where I come from, majority are Muslim and a simple support for LGBTQ+ can land you death threats and curses. If you simply speak about women right, you receive curses involving family members. Let alone asserting that I left Islam. I've received multiple death threats myself. Guess, where I come from? Bangladesh, mentioned in this very video for the murder of a Blogger Avijit Ray. I've been seeing that since childhood. How much of that will finally justify being pissed at a religious ideology? I'm not saying all Muslims are bad. There are Muslims like you who wouldn't care. Muslims are human just like me. But there's something inherently wrong with the ideology.
@@nafizimtiaz3320 i am from bangladesh too. while support there are more ppl supporting lgbtq or ok with others supporting it in the younger generations, i cannot say the same with out parents generations.....
and I have denounced my faith, but my parents does not know about it. why? because before i decided i was a non-muslim, i had this conversation with my dad where i talked bout how family members should react if one leaves islam. well, what he said made it clear that if he hears i denounced my faith, he might beat me up, force me to pray and read quran every single day cuz i have 'astrayed' and possibly even disown me when i become and adult if i dont change my ways.
🫣😳😀😀 because they get murdered for leaving it ..
Karim is okay,but Ali Dawah is not Progressive at all lol XD
Farera Wei karim isn't a Muslim.
Exactly what i what i was thinking
Ali Dawah and Mohammad Hijab are the most conservative Muslims ever.
Tbh I'm not saying it's normal that your parents are ignoring you or whatever for leaving Islam but this problem is common in all religious families. Most people who have reverted to Islam have had issues with their parents/family as well. Ignoring, lack of acceptance and understanding is common in MOST families and could even be considered a "normal" or "expected" reaction. I am fully aware that it doesn't have to be like this but the sad reality is it is.
Not afraid of Muslims typically but religion is definitely something I view as harmful and dangerous.
Reading the comments made me get my "faith" in humanity back 🙃
Oh dear, just don't say anything because the far right could use it? WTF? Anyway they call everyone far right that critizises Islam.
I used to think jihadist group don't represent true islam. Then I read the translation of quran and left islam.
I declare that THERE is no one worthy of worship but ALLAH who is the creator of heaven and the earth and beyond AND muhammad S.A.W Is his last and final massenger. Peace be upon him.
Ex University of Waterloo student here (Canada). I was really looking forward to attending their event at campus - but of course, it got cancelled. No one objected to have Hamza Tzortzis talk nonsense at UW though.
Ex muslims are cringe, Hamza Tzortzis would shit on you through civil discourse
"Should Muslims like me be so critical of ex-muslim?" Its fine and acceptable.
"Should people (including ex-muslim) be so critical of Muslim?" Automatically you are labeled islamophobic.
am an ex-catholic,no big deal
Good for you catholicism is tamed beast gone are the days when would be burn at the stake by the inquisitors Islam on the other hand is starting to get its fair share of critical examination now so they are lashing out while playing the victim at the same time!
@abdo abdo oh really no one cries Islamophopia? Or threatens death with anyone that even dares to question Islam? Ask Ayan hirsi Ali
"There's no such thing as an ex-catholic, they're only just bad Catholics"- Every Catholic
@Bosin Bosinino not really,jesus wants to tear apart houses.
It’s not a big deal for you because in your community nobody cares what faith you are. I am an ex Muslim who used to live in England and let me tell you, when people found out about me because of my posts on tumblr, I got harassed, and threatened. People wouldn’t leave me alone!
You want to leave "DIE!" I can't believe in the modern world this is even an issue! This is what year again!? It's madness to still follow to the latter rules and laws set over 1000 years ago! U have to evolve IF u go to countries that aren't of ur faith otherwise don't go or leave so u will be happier
He's nothing more than a hate preacher don't take him seriously..
The problem isn't with fundamentalists or fundamentalism, the problem lies in the fundamentals of the doctrine.
This is tragic in so many ways.
Right..I will never visit these Countrys..
IF i had a choice between Islam and Christianity i would pick Buddhism
@@jamesware5100 I would pick atheism
@@jamesware5100 I wholeheartedly agree with you:)
For every Ex-Muslim leaving Islam, 10 join. We don’t really care 🤷🏽♂️ The Truth Will Prevail!
Actually it's the other way around....based on European statistics for 2017, 168,000 muslims said they left the religion whereas 38,000 identified as new muslims
The truth is, islam is a religion of hate: Take a look at this: www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/quran/violence.aspx
damn Yasin you really stupid
this is pretty interesting: www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2018/01/26/the-share-of-americans-who-leave-islam-is-offset-by-those-who-become-muslim/
When muslims get the chance to leave islam, plenty do. Islam spreads by threat of death, its the only way this intellectually bankrupt system could spread.
I think its a mix of both. There is definitely a lot of islamphobia but ex Muslims are a very ostrichized group and rarely get support.
We shouldn't use ex Muslims as a way confirm our biases. But we also should avoid criticising islam in a way that promotes bigotry. We instead should actually have a discussion.
Ex muslim from india
i was born muslim i was extremist for 3 to 4 years creating propaganda videos about 9\11doomsday one day i changed my life started to care about my health and i started reading and watching different categories and philosophy was the most powerful one to question my self i started reading critics about religion and islam and for a lot of time i struggled to stand against it i finally agreed to overcome religion trap and the biggest trap is surely islam looking back at my self i understand how selfish and extremist islam can be against non muslims
religion is childish
Honestly its the person not religion
How is this a religion of peace? how much peace do they really preach? crazy
@@Fatima-jv1zf "People who have read The holy Quran and the biography of the holy prophet (P.B.U.H) know better than you immature, uneducated creatures." The Influence of Islam "the religion of peace"...im not being an asshole but...WTF?
@@vic23211 you don't know Islam.
Everyone is not having ability to understand it.
Islam is a very peaceful and loving religion. A true muslim very affectionately, while running his soft caressing fingers through the hairs of a non Muslim, lovingly detaches the head from the neck while singing a devotional song.
No one is killed for changing faiths. those are just extremist claims by crazy scholars- dont believe everything u hear and practise islam the way u want to.
"peace loving"
bahahahahahahahahahaha
Sahih al-Bukhari 6922-Allah’s Messenger said, “If anyone changed his Islamic religion, then kill him.”
Religion, ALWAYS complicating the most innocuous everyday things.
The reality is the real muslim does not care. Each of us will be judged individually. Even your own body parts will speak and will not be on your side. Don't think too much of it. Y'all always tryna make drama and entertainment.
I think it's amazing that Ayman is so tolerant. This is how all Muslims should be. We ex Muslims don't care what you believe as long as it's not forced on us.
I refuse to accept any religion,because I know I can find a world better then some set of rules shoved down to my throat since my childhood.i know I can find a much more colourful and beautiful universe to myself and If god is there he’ll agree with me!
Dude, you spoke out some things which are highly important and critical: that in society people tend to not be critical to islam, or when you question yourself if you can consider yourself still a muslim as a feminist and being against homophobia.
Whish you find a lot of supporters for your work. Warm greetings to you
IMO you will always get a Truer version of a religion from someone who became 'disenchanted' by it but who saw it from the inside, than from someone still drinking the Ghoul'aid.
Layla No since Faith is Believe on insufficient evidence!!
I am an ex Muslim, I am still coming to terms with the fact that my community has shunned me, my wife and my two beautiful daughters...
We have found a religion that we feel happy with and we will survive and prosper.
Our thanks to 'Basics Of Sikhi' for being a light in an otherwise dark world.
WaheGuru.
BRITISH SIKH HONOUR KILLING JAILED 70 YEAR OLD. www.theguardian.com/uk/2007/sep/20/ukcrime.prisonsandprobation
May God bless and protect you and your daughters.
Narrated `Ikrima:
Some Zanadiqa (atheists) were brought to `Ali and he burnt them. The news of this event, reached Ibn `Abbas who said, "If I had been in his place, I would not have burnt them, as Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) forbade it, saying, 'Do not punish anybody with Allah's punishment (fire).' I would have killed them according to the statement of Allah's Messenger (ﷺ), 'Whoever changed his Islamic religion, then kill him.'" Sahih al-Bukhari 6922