Using Apple's Pro Desktop... From 21 Years Ago!
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Today we're cleaning up and using Apple's Pro desktop computer from 2002, the Power Mac G4 MDD (Mirrored Drive Doors). This macintosh was given to me for free, but does it work? Let's find out :) #retro #apple #mac
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Power Macintosh G4 MDD Specifications:
1.0GHz Dual G4 7455 Processors
1.75GB 333MHz DDR Ram
Radeon 9000 Pro 64MB Graphics
160GB Hard Disk - Наука та технологія
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Hearing that something has "AI features" has become an instant turn-off for me by now.
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thats not a "pykeyecell", it's " oh, my pkcell" 😂😂😂 (dankpods reference)
edit: Guys TYSM for all of these likes! I didn't expect this to boom!
Thanks for the dank pods reference now I can sleep
That annoyed me as well, he’d better say pkcell next time
Lolololollll
I hear PoCkCeLl
That's true! (I have schizophrenia)
Are we not going to applaud his music skills on the keyboard and promo video for the G4? That was incredible!
Such a great early millenium design. Still looks like the future to me.
I think some 2000s design language can be successfully incorporated into the devices of today, recently learned about the Ironside Y2K PC case and it doesn’t look outdated to me.
Oh god I hope the future doesnt hold yellowed transparent plastics
I agree
Come on, the metal jacket that followed this one is truly timeless and still futuristic by today's standards. But this is so 90s blobby phase😂
@@TiggerLyOneThe Mac Pro that directly followed this computer is not futuristic if it hails from the late 2000s, computers have changed so little since then. Minimalism in gray scale colors is the new beige, even if it's not hideous like beige. Makes me miss the more colorful and adventurous designs of the earlier 2000s and the decades that lead up to them. I'd like for designers to channel that spirit again and leave the parts that were ugly behind.
It’s kind of crazy how fast designs have evolved between the 2000s to the 2010s compared to 2010s to the 2020s. The form factor is iconic after all these years, even if Apple kind of made its own Mac Pro irrelevant in 2023
The M2 Mac Pro 2023 is NOT irrelevant, its perfect for those of us that want and need the speed and "tidyness" of internal PCIe card expansion. You obviously are not interested or aware of the many uses of PCIe expansion. Hence you are not a true "PRO" and the Mac Pro is simply not for you, The Mac Studio exists to save $$ for "prosumers".
@@user-gb8nx8qr2z in addition to this there are also some hints for new hardware which is likely to come later (extra compute modules)
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you are obviously not aware of the fact that many PCIe cards will not work in the mac pro M2.
and that you can easily hook up PCIe expansion chassis to a mac studio, where all cards *will* work.
plus it will still be 1000 dollars cheaper.
@@user-gb8nx8qr2zwell it can’t use GPU’s and the compatibility list is quite short, so I fail to see why the 2x premium is worth it
These powermacs look so much better in person. The reflection of mirrored surface and the shiny translucent plastic (in good condition) looks just amazing when you see it in person instead.
Apple should try something like it again with modern sensibilities instead of making computers that have hardly changed since the late 2000s.
@@protocetidThey just redid the iMac a few years ago…
Rammstein!! 🤘🏻
from Germany 🇩🇪 to the World, greetings to all Metalheads!
My main Apple retro computer. Still use it from time to time. Upgraded it as much as possible. Have a new PSU in it, dual 1.25 GHZ G4's and several other expansions ( also a much stronger GPU ).
I have an eMac 1Ghz G4 and I dual boot to MacOS9 for games. It's not useable for the web anymore, all the browsers seem to have degraded. I can stream music from VLC and just use it as a radio. I got the MacOS9/Leopard dual boot running recently, and MACOS9 seems to have better game options than OSX, though I've just started playing with it.
@noogai2 Are you able to watch youtube on a powerpc?
@theshadowman1398 what do you use this for? just curious.
@@ShankarGaneshmy dad uses a g4 on osx for his taxes and it works well with our old ricoh copier and large format printer. It just chugs along so why get rid of it.
Time to upgrade to dual 1.42s or a Sonnet card!
There's something so special about late 90s - early 2010s Apple products. Steve Jobs truly knew what a beautiful product was, inside and out. I have never owned an Apple computer in my life so I never got to experience the "old school" Apple lifestyle. I absolutely love the skeuomorphic design of OSX and I hope that one day, I'll be able to use it for myself, although I probably won't be able to do anything at all on nit!
You really nailed “early 2000s American advertiser” voice in that segment
A little bit of Rammstein will always make any computer video better!
That old Pro design is timeless.
true, the G5 was also sexy, too bad I'm a PC kind of guy, if ever i find one that's damaged, I'd upgrade it with a Ryzen and a Gigabyte mobo. Friendship ended with Asus.
My first Mac was a G4 MDD, a dual 1.25 GHz model. I bought it in 2006 and sold it in 2008 so I could upgrade to an '06 Mac Mini 1.83 GHz Core Duo. I loved that machine to bits. It came with an SCSI controller card, useful for my Yamaha A5000 sampler I owned back then. I added a USB 2.0 card, a second DVD burner (which had LightScribe) and expanded the RAM to 2GB it was a fine machine for the time.
Btw, the small fan is cooling the optical drive cage.
I still prefer, in some ways, the QuickSilver model as they were slightly less noisy, and they looked a bit more minimalistic design-wise vs. the MDD. I have a few of these in various states of repair. One of my systems has a label on it that suggested that it was maxed out at purchase time - 2GB RAM, ti4200 4x120GB drives and a superdrive. Although none of the original drives, and only some of the original RAM was left, the Ti4200 was still present.
The system you have is fortunately the FW400 model which still natively supports Mac OS 9, and is the last and one of the fastest ways to run the old OS.
I have two of these in my collection at home. Still hard to believe they're 20+ years old and look so modern.
I've got a Quicksilver 2002 @ 800MHz that still works well enough. In 2009 I ordered a Sonnet Allegro USB-2 PCI card that gave me multiple USB-2 ports. Recommended!
overclock it !
I have a quicksilver 2001 867mhz. It’s pretty nice. I upgraded the GPU to a Radeon 9000 pro 128mb to replace the 32mb GeForce 2 MX. The GeForce is faster in UI acceleration l, but the Radeon is noticeably faster in games. I’ve also added a USB 2.0 card. I plan to add a wifi card at some point. And possibly a SATA controller to boot sorbet leopard faster.
This G4 tower was my primary music production computer up until 2016 when I upgraded to a G5. Some of the music I produced on the G4 ended up on records that went gold!
His talking style often leads me to believe he just isn't capable of having emotions until he adds silly little bits like the G4 promo vid at the end lol I loved it
I had four of these versions, the Dual 1.25 GHZ model and held onto them till 2011. I absolutely loved this model, and it was incredibly powerful and a stunning design. When I worked as a graphic designer, this is all we had in our studio at the time and it was amazing. I ended scoring a few and used them as an XBMC/Kodi Server, a Network Renderer, Fileshare Server, and then one for my home music studio as I had a lot of Firewire interfaces. My second favorite was the PowerMac G5 which was stunningly designed and so compatible with a lot of hardware out there. This is when I loved Apple; when they still innovated and lead with not only beautifully designed machines outside, but also inside.
Because these suck power like crazy, my dad would often shut the MMD G4 down after being done with it. So very regularly I'd hear the boot chime, and in a small apartment, especially as a kid, it was a real jump scare. It was, and will always be, so unexpectedly loud.
I don't know why, but it struck me as EXTRAORDINARILY funny when you put the speakers on both sides of the computer rather than both sides of the monitor. My sweet summer child.
Great job cleaning that Powermac G4 up. I was also surprised updates to the OS could still be downloaded on it as well.
My dad still uses this computer! Barely but it’s his tax filing and printing workstation, has a ton of upgrades that have kept it running over the years. Probably hasn’t been cleaned once
I’m amazing it’s still used in all honesty, that’s impressive!
I've got a couple of these still. A last gen dual 1.42GHz and a dual 1.25. The power supplies are flaky, but they're really cool. My 1.42 still gets simi-regular use as my DVD ripping rig. Mac The Ripper is still free for PowerPC machines and 4x 400GB internal HDDs make for plenty of space. Obviously newer and faster dual Superdrives make ripping a piece of cake.
Thats literally the best commercial i have ever seen. Buy Buy Buy!!!!
I recently disassembled two older blue and white G4s, and it’s interesting to see how different the internal side panels look. These later models have lot more perforations, I’m guessing because these heated up a lot more. As a matter of fact, and IIRC, this particular model was nicknamed the “wind tunnel G4” because of the insane fan noise it made.
3:23 me trying to turn my MacBook on at night without waking anyone up
I built these and set several of the build’s factory standards for apple’s Sacramento California, Cork Ireland, and Singapore factories where these were made. This model was called P57 internally and was the subject of several lawsuits involving coworkers. It was many firsts for apple, and I remember everyone putting their fingers in the holes on the bottom asking if they were fan vents or ports, no, they were nothing lol.
Great to see a Mirror Door getting some love. I really like the look of the Mirror Door and the G3 Blue and White. I have a dual 1.25GHz MDD that I got in a bunch of G4 PowerMacs. Since owning it I have put in a FW800 PCI card and USB 2.0 card and put new thermal paste on it. Eventually I'll replace the case fans with quieter ones.
Awesome video like always. Thanks for sharing.
Amazing! I took the same model from trash 2years ago and started a project similar to mvv blog one! Great machine! Excellent design, very cool!
finnaly a new one!
8:13 for the foam Noctua add this like 1 years ago just check the size it's look like 60x60 fan so the foam you need is around 70-80 range
Rammstein was completely unexpected, lol. Awesome!
I actually turned this particular model into a lightup drink dispenser.
Gutted the inside, installed a pull-style metal tap through the speaker hole in the front, wired white LEDs into the corners of all 4 handles, mounted a motorized air pump inside, ran a inlet tube from the pump to a custom 3D-printed cap which forces air into the drink container, and another tube that runs from the container towards the front to the tap spout. And finally, an electric sensor hidden in the handle that when pulled, activates the motor. Motor forces air into bottle, which forces liquid out the bottle and through the tap spout. Also a master switch in the back that turns on power and LEDs. Unfortunately it works much better with non-carbonated drinks (soda and beer comes out sort of flat).
Amazing talent true legend never forgot love older tech great review 😀❤
It's definitely worth displaying in your collection 😊
I had the 1.25 dual running 2Gb of RAM. Stunning machine at the time (still is 😅).
I used to call it 'my wife' and stroke it lovingly to my girlfriend's displeasure 😂😂.
I married her in the end to stop her complaining 🤣🤣, and yes, we're still married.
Thanks for the memories mate 👍
my Power Macintosh G4 MDD
1.2,5GHz
2GBx2 400MHz DDR
Radeon 9800 Pro 128MB AGP
250GB IDE x2 500GB x2 SATA
OS tiger 10.4.11 leopard 10.5.8 snow leopard 10.6.8
i love your videos they make my day and its so inspiring!
Love this MDD G4 pros! You’ve got the final of the 3 versions of this machine, and the very last apple that can natively run OS9! The first 2 versions had many fewer air holes at the back, as well as different front designs.
SorbetLeopard runs much better on these machines than regular Leopard. Tiger and Panther are where it will shine, however. If you want any reasonable attempt at modern web browsing / UA-cam playback, SorbetLeopard is your best bet. I've been able to play video at 240p from UA-cam on a similar setup
Super timing of the video, just been given one free! Super retro mac! 👌 🍏 Great content as always. 👍
This is really great. These were amazing machines back in the day.
That was awesome The video you made within this video made the video worth it!! It was awesome
the yearbook class in my school had these machines, i was so jealous at how futuristic they looked
Excellent vid! I love my MDD (upgraded to dual 1.25) , and honestly the best use case for me is running the early 2000s games my kids grew up with. 4X4 Evolution, Civilization, SimCity 4, Bugdom, CroMag Rally, Wingnuts are still tons of fun for the family during the holidays. Also, these games are pretty tame culturally and a great alternative for kids.
I bought this computer my freshman year in college and the bookstore computer employees were so excited to see one show up that they helped me carry it to my dorm. It was an amazing (but loud) computer.
Nice video very informative I still have one of these MACs and use it to scan film with my Nikon cool scan still works like a charm!
Rammstein's "Feuer frei" is a killer tune.
I'm in love with this thing!
The Runscape music in the outro was a wonderful touch!
I like how clear it is.
20 Years Ago, Power Mac G4 is Dream Machine for me.
Had one of those. They REALLY pumped out a huge amount of heat. No comparison to recent Macs that run very cool.
Used to have an older version of the powermac g4 and that thing was a space heater
I remember lusting after one of these when they were current. I could never justify the price given how much "work" I was going to be doing with it. In the end, once my workload matured, I skipped right over this and got the G5. What an utter nightmare that machine proved to be. That was when I left Macs for my DAW, thankfully PC DAWs had also matured.
Thanks for the video. I still have the Power Mac G3 and screen in working order.
Nice machine! I’ve got a single core re-release MDD that was sold alongside the new G5. Such a great design.
I started using Final Cut Pro on a Quicksilver G4, I can still remember the buzz of installing OSX for the first time. Great vid!
I owned several of these and they were great at the time
AHHH reminds me of my blue G4 PowerPC tower......still sitting under my desk and refuse to get rid of ! One of the LAST AFFORDABLE UPGRADABLE Mac's ever made ! Anything on it could be upgraded and was !! Emphasis on AFFORDABLE !!! And had the matching blue monitor which Apple fixed at one point even though it was out of warranty. So cool looking !! Miss all those games I use to play !
my little 10 year old mind was absolutely blown watching the mac os x leopard boot intro, its one of the things that got me pc in the first place
dude this video you produced with the power mac is seriously nostalgic
I loved this mac so much
The drawbridge-PowerMac G3/G4 case design was an absolute classic - very aesthetically pleasing but also so simple,and easy to access and upgrade. Another era. I owned and used various versions between 2000 until about 2016 when I sold my last ProTools rig that still ran like a dream. Was just a shame that the G5’s thermals were never going to work in that neat, compact case. I remember getting my Dual G5/2GHz in 2003 and being shocked at the size of the tower. Mind you, for AU$7000 at the time, at least you were getting a ‘lot’ of computer 😂
Beautiful job, by the way. Looks brand new now.
I love that camera I need one NOW
I still have my Quicksilver. It's so painfully slow with Leopard... But Tiger runs so smooth on this machine.
Psivewri, bro be on apple's marketing team, I love that mock ad you did. 😂
love the more playful style :D especially the reflection shot lol
Never owned this mac, but this model was the first mac I've ever used in my life back when I was in primary school.
11:51 best auto-tune voice crack I ever heard.
When the case is closed, the small fan on the door (next to the motherboard) snugs up to the optical drives to cool them. This is why there are ventilation holes all over the optical drive cage.
Good video. I bought the exact same Mac as you and a Apple display that used DVI video for $150. A computer shop convinced him to recycle it and he was going to bring it to them. I am glad that I was able to save it.
This is on my wishlist for my collection
Want to buy one?
Thank you so much 😊
This makes me very nostalgic... still have my Quicksilver that I bought in August 2001 and it still boots...
I really need to get my hands on one of these, I have a crt 21' studio monitor and its settings can only be adjusted with one of these old macs
I had almost this exact setup from 2002-2007, except it was the QuickSilver Mac, not the mirror door one. Same monitor, which still fires up after all these years. It was super futuristic 20 years ago..
i got same one still works perfect
Wonderful video as always! And great music and video on that old Mac! Do you ever get snow in Adelaide during the winter?
"Early days of computing." Ha! I know everything's relative, but it cracks me up to hear anything from the 21st century referred to as "early" computing. :D
Nostalgia! I bought one of these new back in the day. Single 1.25ghz processor, I don't remember the rest. Paid US $1500 for it. I ended up lugging it to work and using it there, it was fun confusing everyone (Macs were still SO rare in offices back then). I sold it a few years later for I think $1200 or so, when Macs still had really good resale value.
Glad too see you got this one running too! It was really temperamental when I had it too lol
Surprised that these things are even still around. And much more repair friendly than the latest M2 powered iMac's!
This is so Satisfying
Love that RuneScape tune at the end
I had one of these in 2005, a single 1.0ghz with 512mb ram. Ran 10.3 beautifully. Was my main computer until the Core2Duo Macbook came out.
I have one, replaced all the fans with new quiet ones, replaced HDD with SSD and maxed out the ram. Mine is the Dual1Ghz model, with 10.4 and MacPorts is pretty usable today
I’ve always preferred the look of its predecessor, the QuickSilver 2002 range, of which I’ve still got my powerhouse with upgraded dual 1.8Ghz CPUs, 1.5GB RAM, and for the day a “massive” 60GB SATA SSD as an OSX Tiger boot drive. With FCP3 and DVDSP I felt unstoppable.
omg the footage of the camera looks hist like the 90´s. so nice whatßs still possible keep it up
I think you put the perfect amount of thermal paste better than Tronics fix 😂 good video. there’s no form of like retro bright that you can do on that. What does that only work on computers that have paint on it? Hey that look like a cool little commercial I like the part where you stuck your tongue out in the mirror 😂 also I gave it that old 90s look
"Nathan, why do you always bring the eucalyptus oil with you when you go to the bathroom?!" "Leave me alone ma!!"
I had a mint condition Mac Pro 3,1 and now I wish I would have kept it. I would have loved to artfully place an M1 Mac Mini Mobo inside....adding connectors and cable for the backplane I/O. I really I love the look of these Mirror Drive Door units...they are older, a bit more rare and are a lot more rough.....but I am now motivated to look for a case in good nick.
You’re lucky your loud fan spin problem was RAM related. That issue is usually power supply or CPU card related but could honestly be nearly anything and is almost impossible to debug. Mine’s issue was probably the CPU card, but I am planning on converting it to a sleeper PC.
I used to have one of these given to me by a neighbor, it was a top-spec dual-1.42ghz FW800 G4 that was a very cool system (while it worked). Sadly the PRAM battery died and leaked all over the board and I didn’t have the means to fix it so I had to scrap it and recycle it. I still have the G4 processor card and it’s a highlight of my little parts collection I have
thats right! I remember snow leopard update only worked on intel based macs completely forgot about that!
I also got an MDD free from a relative.. with the studio display, speakers, etc. I had to have the proprietary PSU refurbished but otherwise it works great. But it's the FW800 version, so doesn't run Mac OS 9 natively. But no worries, because another relative gifted me a Quicksilver G4 Dual 800 MHz as well.. ! This one runs Mac OS 9 natively and that makes it so much fun. I love getting old software off of Macintosh Repository or Macintosh Garden. My children like to use it.
I had that model with the same LCD display back in the dat. Can't believe it's over twenty tears ago! I had Halo too, but also the Harman Kardon audio. It was good regarding expansion - I had it stuffed with Maxtor HHDs. The downside was the fans - it was insanely noisy. Me in the future is loving my quiet and cool M1 Max laptop.
It's amazing how teams from so many years ago can age so well.
They gave me a computer a week ago, an imac from mid-2007, it did not turn on and it was just cleaning it, I would like to update the cpu to do more tests but it is difficult to find them for sale.
Just downloaded Opera GX thanks to this video, and so far I love it. I think it might finally make me convert from Chrome.
Wasn't expecting you to play Rammstein 🤝 man of culture