2023 Kawasaki Ninja 1000SX Dyno with Full Akrapovic Exhaust
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- Опубліковано 21 бер 2023
- 2023 Kawasaki Ninja 1000SX with full Akrapovic exhaust. Dyno and flash by Moore Mafia.
Fan temps lowered (180 degrees f) and all ECU restrictions (including de-cell fuel cut) removed. Flashing occurs inside Road, Sport and Rider modes. Rain mode and cruise control limiter (85mph) are left untouched. All traction control functionality remains the same from factory.
Interesting note on the Akrapovic exhaust - you cannot remove the DB killer (silencer) without drilling, tapping and replacing stock rivets. This exhaust system is too quiet from idle to 4K rpm imo - though any gear, at or above 5K rpm, I rate the sound a C+.
After the tune and flash, the throttle response is perfect, de-cell fuel cut removal makes the bike a thousand times more enjoyable to ride, and the now unrestricted power is amazing.
In March 2023, this performance upgrade cost roughly 3K USD (full exhaust system and parts, K&N air filter, installation, tune, and flash) and is well worth the investment.
Note: I just realized that max hp number may actually be 140, not 133 as that was an earlier pull. Regardless, the thing is fast! - Авто та транспорт
OEM air filter or aftermarket? I’m sending my ecu to Moore Mafia tomorrow, wanted to make sure they have a tune for my set up. Akrapovic full exhaust system and K&N air filter
Definetly need an aftermarket air filter. I put KN in mine, but I am willing to bet Chris would say to go with Sprint.
Just got mine installed last week, really like the sound with the db killer out. One thing I noticed is the way the exhaust gases smell now, pretty strong since there isn't a catalytic converter anymore. Does yours have strong exhaust smell after the tune?
I'm interested to know how they got the DB killer out - Chris' team would have had to remove rivets or cut into the exhaust can. To answer your specific question, yes to smell.....the fragrance of freedom!!!! "Murica
The exhaust smell shouldn't be particularly strong. With tuning and proper fuel mapping you should be running exactly correct stoichiometric ratio in your particular elevation. If you're smelling cold-start exhaust, that's one thing. Factory runs lean most times anyway. With the catalyzer installed, the smells are generally modified.
@lifted_above No cats have a unique smell, same as on a V8 without cats etc. Same kinda smell and an obvious smell if you know what it is.
@@legendarymark112 I sort of said the same thing?
@lifted_above Even with proper fuelling it has a unique smell that's much much more obvious (and stronger than with cats/stock muffler). So not really the same as what I said.
Hey Jason, does the tune allow you to get over 155 or is the gearing restrict it to that?
It's a question that's been on my mind for awhile, just haven't tested it yet. Will let you know where we end up with that!!
It should in theory. With the gearing it should max at 159. This bike can REALLY benefit from taller gear ratio’s, with different sprockets and the tune/exhaust 160+ shouldn’t be out of the question
Stock electronic limiter can be switched off. The rest is gearing and horsepower.
Confirmed 170mph at 11.5 rpm in 6th gear. It does remove the 155mph limiter.
Hi Jason, looks like you still have the DB killer in, is that right? It still sounds pretty good with it in. I have a full system on order and am hoping for a good sound improvement without the need to remove the db killer. Yours sounds pretty good.
Congrats on getting your new system, exciting. You'll love it I'm sure. You are correct, we left the DB killer in. I was on the fence about taking it out then, and if I look back I'd still be on the fence about it today. It def sounds a million times better but I often wonder if I should have taken it out bc I think it would sound just right with the DB killer out. Imo it's still too quiet with the silencer in and I'm willing to bet they could have gotten more HP out of the bike with the silencer out. If you get a chance I'd love to hear yours when its done. Congrats again!
@@jasonfararooei5722 Thanks very much for your comprehensive response. I'm not looking for it to sound over the top but I do hope it's a significant improvement on stock. I'll be disappointed if the full system isn't much different to stock given how much money I've put down on it. I too am reluctant to drill it to get the db killer out. I know that a slip on with the cat still in place makes almost zero change, did you find that the full system was at least a bit better than that? Thanks mate.
@@kwakaholic I hear you on that 100 percent. Funny bc that was my exact thinking - I spent too much on this to be tapping holes in it! It def sounds much better over stock - a ton better. Plus the performance differential is extremely noticable. When we did the tune on that bike it didn't make big numbers up top, but the midrange saw significant changes, and the overall happiness of the motor is overwhelming noticable. It breathes so much better and revs cleaner and quicker too. Def worth the 3K USD investment. I did the decel cut delete as well and thoroughly enjoy that too. Keep me posted - I'd love to see your final product!
@jasonfararooei5722 Jason, thanks again for your valuable time responding. I've now watched your video many times 😀 . I think the full system with the silencer in place will be sufficient for me. I don't know if you've seen the original Kawasaki Ninja 1000sx black carbon edition but I've secured that plus my bike is all black. It's going to look spectacular. I'll share some media when it's done. Thanks again mate.
Hey Jason, with the tune is the bike still somewhat tamed? I have one as well, but haven’t been riding long and like the fact that it doesn’t want to stand out under hard throttle. Does Chris’s tune change that? Or did you ask him to make it easier to wheelie or not to. I’m sure he can tune it either way, just curious. Thanks and ride safe!
What's up Adam, I hope you're well. In short, the tune absolutely unleashes the power of the bike. In all the modes minus Rain, you've got access to the entire motor and ecu tables in an unrestricted format. This is why I would def not classify it as tame, and call it the exact opposite. And this is where traction control and custome rider modes come into play. The lowest TC setting resides in sport mode and will let the bike wheelie throughout gears about an inch and that's it (it works incredibly well and is very consistent and reliable). I imagine you could ask Chris or your tuner to (for lack of better way to say it) set your tables to say, 80% or 90% rather than completely unrestricted but if you've got access to rider modes and custom settings, my thinking is why limit yourself at the ecu, make the power refinements at the rider mode levels, since you yourself have control over that. I will say it's a very different motor and bike after the tune. When you get on it, it will naturally wheelie through third. I will also say in sport and custom mode I have a lot more respect for the bike - give the tires a lot more time to be at temp and am very choosey about road surface quality when I do give it the sauce. Side note - I opted for the decel cut delete and am pleased with it. I know a lot of guys are hesitant to do it, but I like it a lot. Overall I'd absolutely do this whole process again with the bike if I had to do it all over again. I hope this helps. Happy riding my friend.
Hey Jason, I have this same bike and dislike the 155 top speed. Does the flash get rid of that?
@@jasonfararooei5722Do you still have the same exhaust or did you go to another? Or did you just drill out the pot rivets for the silencer? If so how does it sound now?
I like a loud bike, but not harley loud lol.
@@legendarymark112 Originally I asked for the silencer to be removed. Chris then said it was riveted into the can. So I opted not to cut on a brand new muffler lol. So the silencer is in there. And I will say the Akro system is too quiet for my liking.
@jasonfararooei5722 Alright thanks. Have you heard any others in person that you might recommend that are louder, but not super loud?
Do they work on getting the quickshifter to operate better both up an down?
No work done to the KQS. And sorry to hear you've had problems with yours.
@@jasonfararooei5722 It is not really a problem just something I noticed. Upshifts are fine, downshifts could be better. Curious as to what Moore charges for a dyno tune by itself if you do all the install work on headers and exhaust. I am considering just an ecu tune with an end can and better air filter. I am sure the fueling and unrestricted mapping would still make this a far better bike than stock.
@@s2k442 I hear you. $450 for the full exhaust install with gaskets and KN Air filter. $425 for the tune.
What's the rev limit set to ?
11.5 if memory serves.
Hey Jason. I'm getting to send my ECU to Chris for a flash om my 20'. Little different system, I have the factory headers with a cat delete pipe from Max Torque and a Leo Vince Factory S end can. I really like the way your tune turned out. If it is ok I would include your name and approximate date of the video to Chris so he can tailor the flash for my app. Just looking for rideabilty more than top end.
Thanks in advance and ride safe!
Congrats buddy, you'll love it - it's a totally different bike after the tune/flash. Yeah man for sure include my name. Chris was great during the process and I learned a lot from him. Let me know how you like the flash! Also you doing the decll cut delete? Best wishes my friend.
@@jasonfararooei5722 Thanks for the quick reply. Yes Sir definitely doing the decel cut delete as well as getting rid of the throttle restrictions and getting a fuel map to match my mods. I realize I'll have some pops and crackles with fuel overrun but wanna keep them tamed down.
Chris has done enough of these bikes, I'm sure he has a tune that will get me close to my goal. Thanks again for the response and ride safe Sir!
@@DB-so8zc How is the modified tune working for you? I was thinking of the exact same setup as you from Max Torque. How was the install and cutting the header to make the cat delete work? Thanks
@@s2k442 Well worth the money! Taking the the throttle limitations off and fixing the fuel cut makes the rideablity of the bike even better. BecauseI kept the factory header my guess is I didn't gain any hp/tq but with the link pipe install and the aftermarket can it sounds (subjective) really nice without being obnoxious.
I have put at least 10k miles since the mod with zero issues.
As far as the deleting the cat/resonator I removed the header from the bike. The instructions from MT are really good and with a good cutoff wheel the job is simple. I took nearly 23 lbs off the bike with the mod. Link pipe fit great!
Ride safe
@@s2k442I put a full akro system on it which includes the headers. Torque and and HP saw respectable gains. The delivery is what's truly amazing. Even power and torque throughout. Totally different motor. And the unlocked top end is outstanding.
Which tail bag is that
It's the Nelson Rigg Commuter Sport Tail Bag. It's been a great bag for me and I have the entire lineup - swap them as trips dictate. Tough, functional and modifiable space, and they truly do not fade in sunlight. Have had mine for 3.5 years now and they look almost brand new. www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/nelson-rigg-sport-tail-bag?sku_id=1565686
How much HP at backwheel?
@@fredorico41 140HP with all restrictions removed from ECU.
Back in the day, this bike used to make 146 hp and 85 ft-lb at the wheel with full exhaust and tuning. That was before Kawasaki started neutering it every remake, appeasing the environmental false gods.
So the bike comes stock with 140 and with a full system and tune you are getting 133?! Understand ground vs crank, but this isn't a good tune
1) Odd you'd believe the 140 claimed in marketing material 2) gains were realized in the mid range 3) how do I schedule with you for your superior tune?
2011 was the first year of this bike. It had different cams in it back then and it made more of everything. But all the other tech hadn't been added yet, it was still cable throttle etc. Yay to Euro 5 🙄
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