that sweet car play was so clutch to get that spot, whoever gets that wins the game and nrg beat them by literal seconds to keep the tournament alive, so good
Awesome video as always! I watched all of this live, but didn't realize some of the few micro decisions that could've changed the course of finals. Great insight from Dropped, I'm glad the pros are willing to contribute for your content!
So 28:10 great question, and great response from Dropped. If I recall from watching live, the comms from different teams everyone thought NRG was optic, so there was little attention focused on the team in red room and imo made their push with round 5 closing possible.
This LAN ruled so hard. Hearing Sweet call that Optic was going to win the tournament if they didn't do something about it is magical in hindsight. Also, Dropped was already one of my favorite Apex pros because I liked SSGs style, and this only cements him as S-Tier for me. Seems like such a cool dude, and really wants to think carefully about the game as a sport, but he also respects the chaotic nature of a battle royale and this game in particular, which is why I find pro Apex so fun in the first place. Banger video.
The mindset from Dropped is insane, adapts quickly, learns from his mistakes, and doesn't ponder what-ifs. Skittle is also crazy for sticking that medkit during the end-zone and timing it perfectly. I know it didn't workout but that timing is just insane and could've been a HUGE play if it actually worked for them. Good stuff Optic
While this tournament was the nail in the coffin for the eventual disbandment of NRG, I'm glad we got to see one last NRG sweet big brain moment which lead to the actual griefing of optic winning it all. What a great lan!
re the fight at fingers: the layout is purely symmetric, so there's no inherent advantage/disadvantage from one side vs the others. what screwed optic was that more of the zone had closed out their height head glitch, namely the back edge of the height head glitch, the same one sweet was on, on the other side. so the only way up to height for optic, after having to jump off for bang ult, was to run up their near side ramp which had LOS from sweet's heady. you can see dropped peak the ramp quickly and instantly take 50 dmg. consequently, skittles was the only one in a good position so that enabled nrg to capitalize off dropped/knoqd being stuck lowground. doesn't matter who's at the wheel at that point, the game will play out the same every time.
the game four final between NRG and Optic was the coolest moment i’ve ever seen, being there live as the entire arena is chanting NRG still gives me goosebumps
While they have returned to dominance. I was VERY sad to see they dropped Dooplex. I always thought he was a good player. But once the meta shifted, he kinda fell off. I hope he can win a substantial amount of money in his new team/role
He was also going through some difficulties at home, I believe one of his parents had gotten sick (mom I think) and needed to help her. Sadly I'm also pretty sure his other parent (dad) passed recently.
Doop was and is going through a lot. It's a shame but the boys are still on good terms. Also, from what I've seen (and played against in customs) doop on roller is an absolute beast right now and I'm not exaggerating.
@@DevinHeida It's the exact other way around, but you are right. He had personal issues to deal with, and just couldn't commit to what OpTic needed at the time. Still rooting for him to do well wherever he lands.
Being an OpTic fan who plays Apex I was so happy when we made the jump into Apex and man even though they didn't win champs by god those boys put on a performance of a lifetime. Thanks for this vid you put out nothing but class content I can't wait to see more.
I love watching this team man. Dropped has insane game knowledge, Skittle has unbelievable decision making skills, and Knoqd has the M&K brain, but with roller accuracy. I hope they stay together and I wish them success in the future!
I honestly believe if you got someone like TSM Raven to write an episode of The Reset it wouldn't be that much more meticulous or informative than this. That's how good I think you are, Mr. Hawk, Sir.
What Dropped said is exactly why I think DOJO needs to rethink their IGLing. There were too many times that Timmy and Dezign would make different calls or have to talk through a play, and they'd get killed while deciding. Everyone needs to be on the same page and have one person making split-second calls.
the whole series of events leading up to sweet taking that trident is just so wild, year 3 champs will be hard to beat in terms of hype moments. im here for it though, lotta talented players coming on the scene with all of these org shifts
The decision for NRG to take the Trident in that north pad game truely ended up biting them in the long run. OG goes on to win that game and keeps NRG in the money- but since the games went on they slowly fell out of the money in the long run….
You should make a video about the history of competitive Apex I think a video with all the major events and highlights and such in chronological order would be very interesting‼️‼️
I will never understand anyone thinking that the Optic 3rd party or the Dojo rat play is BM. It’s Lan Finals, anything goes. If you get caught lacking, it sucks to suck. Only thing I have to say to you is Git Gud. And this is coming from a TSM fan who was disappointed in TSM for dying to the rat play.
Optic and TSM are similar when it comes to decision making. For example when TSM is stuck in a position where they need to make a decision within the next 10 seconds sometimes Hal doesn't know what to do. So he ask his teammates for options. Reps and Verhulst give him options that Hal wasn't able to think of. Hal then chooses an option out of all their ideas. The important thing about this is that there are many times when the IGL is stuck, and they don't know what to do. When a teammate that has similar or equal skill in Game knowledge and macro-micro rotations. Then that teammate introduces so much value to the team. If your Trio team has 3 of these equal skilled player then you have a true Trio Team. This is also how Optic plays. They make decisions, and when they are stuck they brainstorm and commit to a decisions. This is why I believe they are deserving of a top 3 team.
New to comp Apex, been watching Wigg costreams since Valorant is still in the offseason (Friday can’t come fast enough!). As a CS and Val fan, I always felt uneasy about Apex comms with everyone yelling over each other, even if I know if works for these guys. With that feeling present, I couldn’t help but feel good whenever Optic comms were up, with how collected and efficient their comms are, even in high-intensity moments. Probably my favorite team in NA simply because they’re pleasant to watch and listen to! Also thanks for the vids, been binging to catch up on the storylines and overall game-ideology in the Pro Scene!
Its just the clasic mnk inconsistency. Try to play a whole week with the pressure of dropping and lose the chance of 2 mio prize money. Not to mention that teams know whos on matchpoint so they will grief you (when they are not SAF). Theres a reason why many pro players switch to controller coz Aim Assist will give you the consistent aim for every single game of the day (if not theres no bang smoke ofc)
I still don't really remember when Doop got kicked? I never saw any announcement about it, and never any reason as to why Doop was dropped from the team to begin with.
21:40 sweet explains whats gonna go down, thats why he is one of the best even though he havent won a lan yet. he saved the tournament (gave us more games) with his ability to interpet and read the game.
This is the definition of niche content, but dude, your analysis is spot on. I been watching these tournys for 2 years, and in a couple weeks of your videos I see so.much.more.clearly. Thank you, keep up the great work!
algs looks so fun its like a game of chess what makes algs so dif from normal br and ranked is that ppl in br and ranked dont do what these pros do in algs they all have there own spots they land everygame and i think apex should have like a gamemode kinda like that but add a unique thing to it maybe a gamemode with only 4 pois and 4 teams and you have to choose what poi you want to land in and maybe give the option for one team in contest that would be pretty cool
yea i kno but theres at least 7 teams better than them rn LG, OXG, OG, FaZe, MOIST, DOJO & XSET those teams might end the TSM & DZ domination next year@@nickolasadame1939
@@ricard3964 right? TSM didn't even move out of the building on Wall the game after NRG 3v3'd OpTic to keep the tourney alive. This guy is clueless on so many levels.
noob team
Agreed
And that fat guy on the team represents all of America
dogshit twitter manager+normal players
@@luffyg.o.a.t7951 NO
It’s a wonderful week when JHawk gives us content to rewatch 7 times
Glad it's not just me
and I appreciate all 7 of those views :)
Based
Agreed. I watch them when they drop and before/after ALGS starts and ends
@@kobeharris9537me too 😂
As an NRG and OG fan the fact that Sweet saved the Lan for TSM still kills me. Great video as always!
facts! the script this year was hilarious!
5head lvl play to get TSM the win!
The Sweet and Hal bromance is unmatched
Wow never thought of it like that holy shit 😂😂😂😂
Man that race against NRG was legendary
one of the biggest what ifs in apex history
that sweet car play was so clutch to get that spot, whoever gets that wins the game and nrg beat them by literal seconds to keep the tournament alive, so good
I'm sorry but sweet isn't a dumb child. He would've done everything to get optic killed
Awesome video as always! I watched all of this live, but didn't realize some of the few micro decisions that could've changed the course of finals.
Great insight from Dropped, I'm glad the pros are willing to contribute for your content!
Having the pros being down to interview is such a blessing. Such cool insights from them
So 28:10 great question, and great response from Dropped. If I recall from watching live, the comms from different teams everyone thought NRG was optic, so there was little attention focused on the team in red room and imo made their push with round 5 closing possible.
This LAN ruled so hard. Hearing Sweet call that Optic was going to win the tournament if they didn't do something about it is magical in hindsight. Also, Dropped was already one of my favorite Apex pros because I liked SSGs style, and this only cements him as S-Tier for me. Seems like such a cool dude, and really wants to think carefully about the game as a sport, but he also respects the chaotic nature of a battle royale and this game in particular, which is why I find pro Apex so fun in the first place. Banger video.
The mindset from Dropped is insane, adapts quickly, learns from his mistakes, and doesn't ponder what-ifs. Skittle is also crazy for sticking that medkit during the end-zone and timing it perfectly. I know it didn't workout but that timing is just insane and could've been a HUGE play if it actually worked for them. Good stuff Optic
come back pub, apex needs u
While this tournament was the nail in the coffin for the eventual disbandment of NRG, I'm glad we got to see one last NRG sweet big brain moment which lead to the actual griefing of optic winning it all. What a great lan!
re the fight at fingers: the layout is purely symmetric, so there's no inherent advantage/disadvantage from one side vs the others. what screwed optic was that more of the zone had closed out their height head glitch, namely the back edge of the height head glitch, the same one sweet was on, on the other side. so the only way up to height for optic, after having to jump off for bang ult, was to run up their near side ramp which had LOS from sweet's heady. you can see dropped peak the ramp quickly and instantly take 50 dmg. consequently, skittles was the only one in a good position so that enabled nrg to capitalize off dropped/knoqd being stuck lowground. doesn't matter who's at the wheel at that point, the game will play out the same every time.
Thank you for your content ❤
Thanks for watching!
the game four final between NRG and Optic was the coolest moment i’ve ever seen, being there live as the entire arena is chanting NRG still gives me goosebumps
Definitely a moment that will be talked about in the history of apex for a long time
That NRG vs Optic scene was masterclass IGL. Both team read their opposition's mind.
Dropped in my opinion is the most underrated player of all time.
Def one of the most slept ones. Been watching since his SSG Team a while ago and knew he had potential since his gibby plays
Great one JHawk love the breakdown as usual. Absolute Quality Banger and at the top of the ALGS and Apex team documentaries. ✌🏼🤘🏼
Much appreciated
While they have returned to dominance. I was VERY sad to see they dropped Dooplex. I always thought he was a good player. But once the meta shifted, he kinda fell off. I hope he can win a substantial amount of money in his new team/role
Doop couldn’t keep up mechanically sadly. He just switched to roller so that may help him out.
He was also going through some difficulties at home, I believe one of his parents had gotten sick (mom I think) and needed to help her. Sadly I'm also pretty sure his other parent (dad) passed recently.
Doop was and is going through a lot. It's a shame but the boys are still on good terms. Also, from what I've seen (and played against in customs) doop on roller is an absolute beast right now and I'm not exaggerating.
@@DevinHeida It's the exact other way around, but you are right. He had personal issues to deal with, and just couldn't commit to what OpTic needed at the time. Still rooting for him to do well wherever he lands.
Being an OpTic fan who plays Apex I was so happy when we made the jump into Apex and man even though they didn't win champs by god those boys put on a performance of a lifetime. Thanks for this vid you put out nothing but class content I can't wait to see more.
Well said #GreenWall
Another banger Jhawk. Better and better
So well made! also, people really haven't been talking about Optic's run in depth, and your video does it so well
I love watching this team man. Dropped has insane game knowledge, Skittle has unbelievable decision making skills, and Knoqd has the M&K brain, but with roller accuracy. I hope they stay together and I wish them success in the future!
Watching this live was crazy, I was so sure optic was going to close it out
It's a good day when jhawk posts
this is all thanks to our lord and saviour, Mark "Dropped" Thees
big fan huh?
Skittle might just be the #1 keyboard player rn, deadass
Maybe. There’s many contenders, Reps, Wattson, sweet, maybe timmy..the list goes on.
Ezflash is crazy
Ezflash is
On OpTic Dominance, shoutout OpTic Gears
I don't believe u can make a bad video, it's been nothing but masterpieces, thank you for these!
I honestly believe if you got someone like TSM Raven to write an episode of The Reset it wouldn't be that much more meticulous or informative than this. That's how good I think you are, Mr. Hawk, Sir.
Really enjoyed the more indepth breakdown of the finals games! Find that content more engaging
oh god it made me remember how badly optic's twitter got invaded by mad fans from DF after rewatching that game 3 LMAO
What Dropped said is exactly why I think DOJO needs to rethink their IGLing. There were too many times that Timmy and Dezign would make different calls or have to talk through a play, and they'd get killed while deciding. Everyone needs to be on the same page and have one person making split-second calls.
King J back at it again!
Game 4 was such a delicate balance of the Two highest IQ IGLs. Beautiful
Skittles med calculate at game 7 is godly, it will be a game changer if tsm was not there. great video as always!!
Skittle showed some legendary game knowledge in last ALGs
the whole series of events leading up to sweet taking that trident is just so wild, year 3 champs will be hard to beat in terms of hype moments. im here for it though, lotta talented players coming on the scene with all of these org shifts
The decision for NRG to take the Trident in that north pad game truely ended up biting them in the long run. OG goes on to win that game and keeps NRG in the money- but since the games went on they slowly fell out of the money in the long run….
Ofc in the money is great but if you're not first you're last
You should make a video about the history of competitive Apex I think a video with all the major events and highlights and such in chronological order would be very interesting‼️‼️
I got a burger and a Jhawk video tonight is a good night
16:24 footage of dropped playing telepathically
Everyone debating controller vs mnk while dropped doesn’t need either 😳
How I have waited for this day, fantastic work JHawk. Another great breakdown, your videos are so insightful and engaging
outrageously good content
dropped is such a chad
38:21 they said acend is trash and got shit on . acend just better
Great video as always, quality content.
Video ideas next time: NRG tribute video, because of org leaving
I will never understand anyone thinking that the Optic 3rd party or the Dojo rat play is BM. It’s Lan Finals, anything goes. If you get caught lacking, it sucks to suck. Only thing I have to say to you is Git Gud. And this is coming from a TSM fan who was disappointed in TSM for dying to the rat play.
I'm glad that I love playing and watching Apex. It is just extremely fun to watch this deep dive. Thank to JHawk.
The hair is coming back in 👀🔥🔥
Had to beat the bald allegations and let it grow back
Love the content man. JHawk dropping a video is always a highlight. Hope you're well bro
My favourite video. FUCKING LOVED IT
great video as always! former Blvckhvnd next?
Good vid
preciate it homie
Optic was Legendary last ALGs ngl
Hey Jhawk please do a KCP video to show EU more love and as a tribute for them leaving 🙏
Optic and TSM are similar when it comes to decision making.
For example when TSM is stuck in a position where they need to make a decision within the next 10 seconds sometimes Hal doesn't know what to do. So he ask his teammates for options. Reps and Verhulst give him options that Hal wasn't able to think of. Hal then chooses an option out of all their ideas.
The important thing about this is that there are many times when the IGL is stuck, and they don't know what to do. When a teammate that has similar or equal skill in Game knowledge and macro-micro rotations. Then that teammate introduces so much value to the team. If your Trio team has 3 of these equal skilled player then you have a true Trio Team.
This is also how Optic plays. They make decisions, and when they are stuck they brainstorm and commit to a decisions. This is why I believe they are deserving of a top 3 team.
Nrg beating them to the spot is wild
New to comp Apex, been watching Wigg costreams since Valorant is still in the offseason (Friday can’t come fast enough!). As a CS and Val fan, I always felt uneasy about Apex comms with everyone yelling over each other, even if I know if works for these guys. With that feeling present, I couldn’t help but feel good whenever Optic comms were up, with how collected and efficient their comms are, even in high-intensity moments. Probably my favorite team in NA simply because they’re pleasant to watch and listen to!
Also thanks for the vids, been binging to catch up on the storylines and overall game-ideology in the Pro Scene!
i was watching optic a lot at ALGS and i'm wondering to this day what happened to his aim at 38:15
Its just the clasic mnk inconsistency. Try to play a whole week with the pressure of dropping and lose the chance of 2 mio prize money.
Not to mention that teams know whos on matchpoint so they will grief you (when they are not SAF).
Theres a reason why many pro players switch to controller coz Aim Assist will give you the consistent aim for every single game of the day (if not theres no bang smoke ofc)
Didn't age well, didn't even qualify for this lan
Another great video from Apex choosen one!
Was really waiting to see why optic couldn't close out since I'm not too in tune with Apex/the event as a whole. Great video!!!!!
That was the craziest intro ever well done
They almost 4-0 crazy
GOD DAMNIT YOUR VIDEOS ARE SO GOOD
🫡
Like always just great content
I still don't really remember when Doop got kicked? I never saw any announcement about it, and never any reason as to why Doop was dropped from the team to begin with.
I believe doop left cause of things going on with his family.
amazing vid, the analysis never gets old
Please do KCP as a tribute to them leaving 🙏
Let's run it again optic wooo
21:40 sweet explains whats gonna go down, thats why he is one of the best even though he havent won a lan yet. he saved the tournament (gave us more games) with his ability to interpet and read the game.
A perfect Sunday night. Some beer, some burgers and a new JHawk video 🙂🙂
First
intro into apex music omg !!!!
gave me goosebumps bro, jhawk this is an incredible video.
Man I love this team so much
we need more videos about ALGS like this😊
great content👍
This is the definition of niche content, but dude, your analysis is spot on. I been watching these tournys for 2 years, and in a couple weeks of your videos I see so.much.more.clearly.
Thank you, keep up the great work!
Preciate you!
algs looks so fun its like a game of chess what makes algs so dif from normal br and ranked is that ppl in br and ranked dont do what these pros do in algs they all have there own spots they land everygame and i think apex should have like a gamemode kinda like that but add a unique thing to it maybe a gamemode with only 4 pois and 4 teams and you have to choose what poi you want to land in and maybe give the option for one team in contest that would be pretty cool
Thank you jhawk! been waiting for this one!
Hope you enjoyed it!
Watching this in between failing my rank trials to get into gold, nice!
*edit - 3rd time lucky! Gold let's be having you!
woooo promo trials!
@@AyeJHawk attempt #2😂
@@walker3551I got to gold after having 8 attempts and won my eighth game promos as a solo queue suck
Straight heat 🔥🔥🔥
sweet stealing car xD
oh no, not the reset keeping me hyped for pro league in the off season... oh nooooo
So unfortunate optic is no more 😢
Dropped my king
im a lil meathead (if you follow knoqd yk)
Ur videos are always fire!
Appreciate that
lmao. dropped rolled into ALGS LAN wearing basketball shorts ....
banger content!
man i dont play apex much but damn the music goes hard
Apex music always slaps
ngl man i thought NRG were the chosen ones to dethrone the dynasties, but Optic is back & stronger than ever
Sweet and Nafen still out here!
yea i kno but theres at least 7 teams better than them rn LG, OXG, OG, FaZe, MOIST, DOJO & XSET those teams might end the TSM & DZ domination next year@@nickolasadame1939
@@Sebascqn99 you clearly dont know basic Apex comp
@@ricard3964 right? TSM didn't even move out of the building on Wall the game after NRG 3v3'd OpTic to keep the tourney alive. This guy is clueless on so many levels.
@@nickolasadame1939 yea that guy thinks comp & ranked are same thing, that game at Wall was beautiful, Optic could win if Skittles doesnt Q up
Finally.
good work as always bro!
Appreciate it!
Literally goosebumps everytime, keep up the amazing work!
Thank you so much!
Glad to see a video on my favorite team#Greenwall
39:39 gigachad obly
Obly is HIM
@24.44 What if dropped use the frag to skynade the top. :S Could have maybe given them the edge of getting their height.
W video
Next year we'll have our Tripods episode! I hope 🙏 😂
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