Ludwig Acrolite Restoration
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- Опубліковано 26 гру 2024
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rdavidr when are you gonna make some new background music? Just wondering... 👍
ugh ive been waiting for that haha. i have no time! ill have to set aside a weekend soon
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Personally I only respond to lasagna, but that's just me.
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I love my ('79 to '81) Acrolite. Mine was in excellent condition when I bought it, polished to a gleam, so I didn't bother using my Turtle Wax Chrome Polish & Rust Remover on lugs/hoops. (NevR Dull works on Aluminum, as does Flitz No Scent Metal Polish ).
I did put new Ludwig 18-strand Vintage Snare Wires (L1963) on it (which comes with grosgrain ribbon), along with a new INDe strainer & butt plate, & it sounds vintage in a *"brand new"* kinda way. It is now my favorite out of 7 snares.
Instead of a snare strap, I highly recommend grosgrain ribbon, it's so much more flexible and very slip resistant.
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How is this channel not huge this guys videos keep me alive
Hilarious honesty "This sounded fine before, and was not really worth the time." And the snare throwoff mount/bracket you made was seriously impressive. You're a real one.
I'm really glad you didn't drill any holes in that shell. The Ludwig acrolite is a very collectible drum. I work in a drum shop that specializes in vintage restoration and repair. You may have heard of us. Klash drums in Nordeast Minneapolis MN. Hit us up if you ever have any questions or need parts.
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The trick to the Ludwig snare switches is to unscrew the tightener all the way off. It will let the one piece separate from the bottom. Then you can reach the screw with a screw driver. Sorta sucks. But I found that out while restoring my own acro.
socket was easier, I guess it was ludwigs way of saying "hey youre about to take off the lugs, get a socket out" lol
rdavidr next time you wrap a snare or tom can you wrap it in blue silk onyx someone on ebay is selling the wrap I bought it and wrapped my one floor tom so it would match my kit and my 10x4 pearl short fuse snare
Does anyone else get super excited when David posts?
i think everything that involves drums is worth it
same
What's funny is that when you started playing that groove, it made me think, "well he does this groove alllll the time" it's like your thing. (no offense if you hate it) but I really dig it.
That's actually the best sounding Acrolite I've ever heard, so whatever magic you did really made it sweet. You know how to hit that baby. Great vid.
It always amazes me how insanely handy you are dude. Love your content, keep up the awesome work!
A feaking masterpiece! sounds meaty and love the flare it has! The Acrolite restored has to be worth over $700+ after you restored her. Makes my day hearing a snare sing again
Great stuff, as always. Have you ever though of using a sonicleaner for small parts? Harbor Freight sells one for like $50, and it is great for small parts. I use it for gun parts, but it would work really well for screws, lugs, bolts etc... Just a thought.
I have a suggestion for a cleaner that won't mess up the surface. As a teenager I worked as a janitor and we used to have to clean these stainless steel doors and surfaces. An old fella taught me to use a semi abrasive cleaner like Ajax or Comet. Not too harsh but has enough grit to remove dirt and more importantly adds brilliant shine. Take a small amount in a plastic cup and add a little water until you have a light paste. Then take a cloth and lightly scrub in the same direction that the metal goes. Afterwards keep wiping off with a clean cloth and clean water until all the cleaner is gone. I obviously wouldn't recommend it on a chome drum like a Supra or anything, but for a dull finish like an Acro I think it would work like a charm.
Great video bro! I just did the same restoration with my first snare drum, an awesome Acrolite. I had a similar issue with the throw-off...nice fix on the throw-off hole alignment. Mine was in very good condition, so I did not have to do to much to it either. However, I did replace the hoops with die-cast hoops. Due to it being an 8 lug snare this made a noticeable difference to me with it holding better tune and sounding and feeling more solid. Really enjoy your channel and videos! Happy drumming!
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Just love how it sounds! No muffling or anything just straight drum
I restored an old acrolite years ago.... even had the shell chrome plated again. one of my favorite snares
I got one just like this for free and restored it with new hoops, new snare wires, new bands, new heads, and bright yellow paint. It looks amazing.
Excellent video. I have a 1978-ish Acro, got it around a year or two ago, and it's my favorite snare at the moment with my keystone Supra 400 a close second. A real no-fuss drum that just works, tunes easily, and gives you a variety of sounds with tuning, tape, or T-shirt. ;)
I've thought about stripping the paint to bare aluminum, but I probably won't...even though it has a lot of brothers, I still like keeping things original. Also, my P-85 functions perfectly fine at the moment, but it has only holes for snare cord, so I use the Gibraltar cord while the Ludwig orange stuff is on eternal backorder from one of my local stores. I prefer cord anyway; in my opinion, you can dial the snares in better, if not without a bit of trouble at first. I also appreciate the tone control, which I happily use as I don't strike the drum too hard. I had a phase there of removing them, only to reinstall them or plan to later.
i was on craigslist the other day and i found a kit with an acrolite snare, the kit was from the 60's and it looked in really good condition i shouldve hopped on it
Snare sound in that programmed groove round 7:30 is epic. Reminds me a bit of the Tribe sound
its the same drum break they used in weve got the jazz, well the snare at least.
I think I mentioned this before but I've had my acrylite snare for 22 years and it's one of the best recording snares I've ever owned. So was it worth it to clean it and give it a spit shine yes definitely good job.
I think what you did was worth it it looks and sounds great and me your viewers enjoyed this and now you don't have to do anything to it as the saying goes "if you're gonna do something then do it properly" and you did and even better that you added Ludwig parts to it 👍 thank you for sharing this with us
I might just one day get my kit out and restore it, it has been like forever since I played them, I need a room to get my kit up. I miss playing so much you inspire me to do it Great Video and love all of your videos :)
George Dalesandry Just do it man, It's a simple as that. You won't regret it.
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this is my favorite video from this channel.
I love the Gibraltar drum keys. I finally bought several of them from Amazon, and those things are heavy duty!
Somedays I wish I kept my Acrolite, it was always a great snare. But, I did manage to find a 1920's Ludwig and Ludwig Parade drum for 55 bucks and restoring it. Has all original parts except for heads of course.
i really love the retro-sonding grooves in your videos
Dude, you're so straightforward. I love it.
I would have cleaned it the same way, David. Just needed that TLC, even if it's not noticeable. Sounds nice though! This one's a keeper! It has that classic sound great for recording. Funny how these old Luddies are as plain vanilla looking as anything, yet everyone owns one for the sound.
I'm surprised at how good this drum sounds. Nice job on the "resto" Dave *thumbs up*
You cleaned a piece of history….a so called student drum that plays on a professional level. Be proud of what you did….little tlc didn’t hurt….
My primary snare is a Ludwig acolyte in sparkle black. I think it's early 90's. anyway you mentioned you might sell the drum, but I'd pay a pretty decent price to trade with you because that's my preferred color, and I love that throwoff
9:30 the "when the levee breaks" sample in the music makes me happy
even out of respect for this particular drum it ain't a waste of time at all!! :) you inspire me to repair some old stuff that i have instead of trowing them or additional money away
I love the level of detail you apply to each job! Nice work!
Very fun to watch the whole process. I love my Acrolite.
someone on my local Craigslist has a Ludwig acrolite snare for 150 and like I want it now but I don't really play drums or have a kit. lol basically I'm just excited about it because ive been watching your channel for weeks now tho
Such a genius. I admire your many talents!
With the screw driver problem. You can use some thin cloth or rag to put over the end of the tool. It will make a tighter fit and if you slip, it helps what your'e working on not get scratched..
I am so happy about this new post
Sounds great in the end. I have a couple and they are always reliable when I need them. Take care!
I have a snare drum that I want to restore but it has a mark left on it from a sticker. Any suggestions on how to remove it??
Yeh I discovered that same thing about a month ago after playing drums for 20 yrs...,,(I hate rope tied snares). I bought a Pearl freefloating maple shell. First snare with ropes. After messing with them for about an hour they went into the trash and I cut out two pieces of "tape" out of an old drumhead that works perfectly.
I use car wax on everything. And it stays cleaner longer. Keeps moisture off it. It don't rust or corrode so soon.
Man that thing sounds great. I love acrolites.
I got one of these from my high school for free. I looked again and there are four more I could snag. School just doesn’t know what they have!
If you don't have a drum key drill bit, try putting a 1/4 inch ratchet extension in a drill. Works on my tension rods.
This is a great Hip-Hop sounding snare man! Love your channel.
I never subscribe to channels. this is my first time. great channel!!! good work
Time and money well spent, IMO. I've bought and sold half a dozen Acrolite snares over the years, none cost me more than $30. Sold them all on eBay after a little work and new heads for between $125-$200. In retrospect, I should have kept one. It would have filled the void I currently have between my other snares. I really do love the sound of them and they require minimal dampening.
I love this channel so much, you need endorsements stat.
Gotta love the John Bonham drum sample from when the levee breaks on 10:02
Worth it or not the Acrolite sounds so fucking good, that high resonance with that mad quick drop off is so nice to listen to.
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Yep.. I've had one since 76.. it's the aluminum that gives it that nice "crispy" tone.
I found a Ludwig Acrolite in the garbage. The family was moving away and did not care I guess. Just an FYI: The Ludwig P-86 millenium strainer has the same bolt pattern/spacing as the P-85, and is a nice upgrade.
I think the snare sounds great man!
Hey man! I love your videos.. Very educational. I'm currently working on restoring a very old drumset. I'm having trouble getting my hands on quality drum heads. It's really expensive here in the Philippines. Please make more videos.
So yesterday i found a acrolite at my middle school in storage the snare i had as a main was a 13 in superstar and its head was husted we only had 14 inch heads so i used this snare and found how good it was and my teachers were shocked and it was like mint so i now have a great snare
Still worth it to get a refresh and clean it up. This coming from a guitar player that changes strings only if one breaks... Sounds great to me, it's got a nice snap. But I'm not a drummer, how's it sound to you? Do you like it?
Hey, dig your videos rdavidr. Always informative and in depth.
Ludwig P-85 on Amazon $22.99 Prime free delivery. This drum is worth every penny of an OEM part!
The snare sounds good really good
Sounds good! That's sick man, people spend hundreds on snare drums that sound almost exactly the same as this.
Best sounding snare you've got in my opinion :D
It's not cheap, but Brownell's gunsmith supply sells a screwdriver kit for $300. It has over 70 hollow ground flat head screwdriver tips, so you SHOULD always find something really close to the screw you need to remove. Rather than skate a screwdriver across an expensive rare vintage guitar, drum, saxophone, or for that matter gun, use the right screwdrivers. This is 140 piece bit set, but if you do bugger one up, Brownells usually sends you a new one. I bought Wheeler sets for $70 but the metal is soft and cheap, and the grinding work is typical Chinese, we don't give a ______, it's flat enough, but not perfect. The Magnatip kit's machining is perfect.
hehe,I don't care if you say that this job was waste of time,I think it was great thing to take care of vintage snare:)) cool stuff,Loved it:)
11/10 best camera man.
You can use the bottom of a 1/4 or 3/8 drive (can't remember) socket, preferably deep well, as a drum key drill bit. 👌
1/4", 3/8" is too big. I actually have a video in the works about this topic!
rdavidr Really? Idk maybe i just have big lugs haha. I do remember using the butt of a socket though.
I checked out my 70s Stewart snare and it actually has a wide depression in the bearing edge where the ropes go so I dunno what to make of that
still sounds nice
I love how tight this snare sounds.
I love your snare drum videos
What do you think about using paraffin wax instead of grease on tension rods? I'm a firefighter and we use wax to lubricate our metal ladders, aluminum specifically. Works like a charm. Your thoughts? I feel like you could eliminate the sticky gooey, Dusty thing that happens to grease over time?
Hey Dave, I need some advice, I just bought a 1976 slingerland and I need to redo the wood. Can you help me out with some advice?
I actually prefer snare cords to straps. I feel like the cords stretch some which makes the snares easier to adjust . I like my snares to be a little on the loose side and it seems like the cords help me get that sound.
Tienes algún vídeo de cómo quitar el óxido de los herrajes? O de cómo pintar de otro color los tambores y los aros?
Hey some help over here, by destiny I end up wtih a Ludwig supraphonic from the 65's, it has some of the traditional pitting of this snare. How would you restore it? Would you use brasso? Would you replace some original parts with new ones? And if someone have another tip to restore a very old and beatiful snare without damagin it I'll apreciate it.
Tip for cleaning lugs is
Sink with warm soapy water and a brillo pad and scrub the lugs with the brillo pad
I am not sure if it is mic'ing or tuning, but you got a really nice snap out of that snare!
What happened to your ride cymbal? Or is that just a different one?
Zachary Volt He uses a Dark crash of some kind from Meinl in other videos, but this one looks like one of the Sabian Big and Ugly Monarchs.
the other was a meinl 20 dark ride
Zachary Volt that ride sounds like shit
rope is hard to get even tension amonst all 4. but dont like plastic either. i like the stretchy material like what they make pedal straps outta. i swear they call that nylon and plastic nylon🤔
It's always worth it. Your efforts were not in vain. Except your effort to buy a new strainer for a ludwig. Only ludwig strainers fit ludwig's (usually). Even with the fancy dunnet strainer's, you have to buy the special ludwig version. The really awesome 25 dollar ones, like the one you bought won't fit, and they won't fit over the bead in the middle of the shell. Now I did not build the adapter before I took mine back to buy a ludwig (because I made the exact same mistake, same strainer and all). Instead, I invested in the fancy vintage looking one (p-86)that costs a lot of money (though I got a deal from the sympathetic salesman at the local drum establishment.)
Love the sound of it. Good work!
You did an amazing job brother. Great video! :)
nice metal breaking, looks clean
sick double drum key action at the start there.
Cannot wait for the next video.
i've got an old acrolite that needs some love too - do you think Barkeeper's Friend would be ok to use to clean the shell?
I don't remember which one but you have a video where you are actually showing something else and play this killer stack between hihat and rack tom
Snare sounds great man!
A cool idea for another video might be to make your own stave snare? I know you're a pretty good carpenter and I've been looking for a good step by step video to make my own!
Maybe even use 2 different sorts of wood and sort of layer them?
Keep up the good work bud! Cheers
There's a Ron Dunnett strainer on the market that is made as a replacement for the p85
Hey dood. Great video as always, just sayin tho, imo I don't like the sound of the sm7b you've been using on the snare even though you have the two most classic snare mics on ur toms. Not a big deal tho
It's got a nice funk sound to it, like Clyde Stubblefield's snare would have sounded like.
love your restoration vids..... so much inspiration..... thank u !
Great sounding snare. You should ditch that throw off and install a Dunnett R4L.
I'm curious as to why you didn't just drill two new holes so the replacement throw off would fit?