I didn't really listen all that much about the story, and killed dwayne thinking playboy x was a friend, but I knew I fucked up when I got that snarky phone call. needless to say i got pissed off.
Joseph Rudowicz I'm not sure about the other guy but I definitely felt bad and even tho I was young I realized one thing "Dwayne had one dude defend him he must've been a good friend"
@haha I'm always bored It was the first time a video game made me legitimately sad and remorseful. Dwayne stays by your side as a friend who can help you out with backup on missions. X pays you and tells you to fuck off like your the cold bastard for killing Dwayne when he hired you to do it. It's like, damn, you paid the money, you wanted him dead. If he paid one of his goons to do it, he wouldn't cut ties with him and made it about a beef. That phone call with X made me wish I killed him so bad. I deleted the file and started over determined to make sure X paid for what he did and said and made my friendship 100% with Dwayne.
It seems like everyone killed Playboy X because he's fake, Dwayne's a good guy, etc...I simply killed Playboy X because I though I would get his fat apartment, and man was I right. Just like when you kill Ricardo Diaz in GTA Vice City.
I read about you gettin' Claude's outfit & an apartment for choosing to kill Playboy X, before I even played GTA 4 so when his character was introduced, I knew I was gon have to smoke him later. I wanted Claude's clothes!
+Phin Hamak uh, no? i did this on my first playtrough because i thought money was important somehow and i didn't want to piss off big players in town '-'
+Phin Hamak Yeah, I couldnt do it. Like Niko, I saw someone very much like myself. Dwayne might complain alot, and gripe: but he's real. Playboy X is a phony.
@@kaiserwave5977 Then why would Dwayne just have a druggie around? He was probably still a friend. Also druggies usually don’t have enough strategy to hide behind a door.
I see almost no point in ever killing Dwayne and probably never will, money has no use in this game, hanging out with friends leads to interesting dialogue.
We all killed Playboy for one or all the following reasons: 1. It is the morally correct choice (since Playboy asks Niko to kill Dwayne first and for no good reason, while Dwayne asks Niko to kill Playboy because he is afraid for his life) 2. We didn't avoid spoilers and KNEW what the rewards would be 3. We personally just didn't like Playboy X
That and thefact that Niko himself told Dwayne that he reminds him of himself. . Also, I noticed the parking space on front of PBX's house 1st time I went there. Didn't need to even think when the choice came
It was 1 and 3 for me. I liked him alright at first, but each mission made it more and more obvious that he’s completely full of shit. When he told me to kill Dwayne I was just waiting for the game to give me the option to kill him instead lol
It is the morally correct choice. Playboy is a hypocrite. Playboy is a false role model. Playboy abandons Dwayne. Playboy betrayed Dwayne. He took Dwayne's apartment. He took over Dwayne's business. Let Dwayne's gentleman's club get taken over. Does business with the people who took over the club Dwayne owned. Talks behind Dwayne's back. Initiates and orders Dwayne's death. Takes enjoyment in the prospect that Niko might kill Dwayne. Shows no kind of regret or remorse for killing people and "kids" by selling drugs. Profits off of the suffering of others. Puts on a bs holier-than-thou excuse of a sob story/inspirational speech to save face.
I killed playboy once, then after finishing I started again and chose dwayne. I felt terrible even though it was just a computer program in the game. For future players kill playboy
@@BlockWorks I recommend you kill play boy because if I felt empty when I killed him, it is because I created a good profile and a bad one and in addition to killing playboy x because they are going to give you several rewards
@@Cuellar.402 i actually finished GTA IV like.. 5 months ago and yeah, i killed PlayBoy X, i got cash, i got a brand new house and i got Claude's Outfit from GTA 3
Even Niko can't look at Dwayne while killing him. That's a huge hint that killing Dwayne is the wrong choice. Dwayne refuses to face Niko and gives him his back, almost as if to say "You want to betray me ? For just some money ? Here's my back then, stab it and get it over with. I can't even look at you..." And even with Dwayne only showing his back, Niko still cant find it in himself to face Dwayne while killing him. I'll never kill Dwayne. No matter what.
I really miss the execution scenes from this game! The killing was made so personal and intimate. With the pistol you could chose how to execute them in a stylish cinematic way. GTA V never had those moments! This game was the real deal, and I hope they bring back the same grit in the next one.
reasons to kill playboy X: two homies you can call anytime. A new freind. A new car. A new apartment. New clothes. that might be it. Reasons to kill dawyne: money (which is basically useless) and a lecture about how you are a bad guy even though X ordered the killing
Why you need money in GTA V? You can buy every property playing with Lester's missions and those properties are useless apart from the cab depot that gives you some interesting missions.
In actuality, he just likes money. He was chasing money in the situation with Dimitri Rascalov too, in the end of the story. I like Roman but he cares too much about money.
in gta 6 it would be cool if you could rent out different types of hotels from low end trash to high end luxury and the more money you make you can get more and more luxurious hotel rooms. And you can call in call girls and strippers and stuff. would be a cool way to spend your money.
it is ok to kill derrick. based on gta V, derrick died anyways. (probably from a drug overdose) plus francis can clear your wanted level. and u get a shit tonne of money if u call francis during the mission before the shooting.
What, Felix I didn't know that. I mean Kiki can clear your wanted level too. But I didn't know the fact he'll give you money if you call him, hahaha that's great. It'd be funny if you could take his money and then kill him anyways.
This game has so much attention to detail. When niko shoots dwayne, he looks away, and after he calls roman, you can clearly hear it in his voice that he regrets it.
Whoever choose to kill Dwyane are totally selfish. I mean look Dwyane didn't even fight back at Niko. He got betrayed, his girlfriend cheated on him and a most friend wants to kill him just because business problem. Damn...
@@howard6541 so what, people cry or get angry over characters in movies, films, animes, etc, it's a game, but it still teachs you valuable lessons for your life , besides mocking society and everything it offers, GTA, especially GTA IV, teachs you that the life of crime isn't worth at all, even when you feel you're going to suceed on the game, something that is out of your control happens. showing that there's no happiness and only misery, we know it's a game, but it's a game everyone loves to play, and everyone will defend the character they sympathize more, or attack the character they hate. there's no shame treating video games characters like they're real people, after all, they are BASED off real people... so let alone the "it's just a game lol" argument... and make a favor to yourself and think about how hypocrite is your statement considering you already felt bad or good for some character in a video game, movie, anime, etc, before.
@@naoaquieopatrickpatrick8565 I understand your POV( Point of View) Ik that we all like character from movies, games, anime's, etc. But what I'm actually focusing on is what happen if those who choose to kill Dwayne is 9 years old or people who don't understand emotion. so he say that people are selfish if they choose to kill Dwayne, they are people, and that he should not just say because you kill Dwayne you just call them selfish directly.
xXE4GLEyEXx true, i like the dark gang and mafia feel of iv, the story is just 10 times better. gta v has some fun mechanics but my heart will always go to iv!
xXE4GLEyEXx GTA 5 was also very dark. If you remember, San Andreas was like GTA 5, more vibrant and colorful. If Rockstar does Vice City for GTA VI, then we'll probably end up with a dark GTA VI. GTA 5 had a lot of dark moments, and both stories are equally good.
that's why I always play the good guy role to avoid unnecessary dramas. I actually pointed my gun on Dwayne and fired few shots in his room before I decided to kill myself and restart the mission so I can kill Playboy instead.
That only make Niko a tragic character... you clearly did not pay attention to the storyline of GTA IV, Niko always tried to fix his life and get over what happened to him... the reason for his bad moves is bad circumstances and the poor had he was given. And please don't compare the brilliant (and literary masterpiece) storyline of GTA IV to the lame (let's put all the work into visually improving the game and make a brilliant multiplayer) storyline of V.
You put him out of his mysery,he clearly suffers from depression and wants to die anyway.No friends,no future.He's a good guy but choosing not.to kill him may not be the best for him I guess.I'd want to kill them both if there'd be an option
@@xardomancer7371 i respect your opinion but killing Dwayne doesn't mean you will put him out of his misery, especially when he states that Niko "betrayed him" rather than saved him. if Dwayne wanted to die he would've beg to Niko to kill him. but actually he wanted Niko to be his friend rather than his Killer, that's why you should spare him, You may not solve all his problem, but you will be his hope.
I have played gta iv trough a few times before and only 1 time I killed Dwayne and I know its all just a video game but I actually felt bad when I did it and I found this hard to watch too. I have no remorse killing playboy though.
I do things out of spite Dwayne is like a father figure in a way to Niko; he's the old, retired veteran who just wants a simple life. And he's already so depressed about life, just look at his resignation when Niko tries to kill him. That's really sad. On the other hand, Playboy is an asshole. The fact that he severed ties with Niko after Niko killed Dwayne in this video further supports my view. Glad I chose to kill Playboy, but i suppose that's what most people chose.
I feel so bad for Dwayne in this mission. It's also depressing how there is only one guy to help out Dwayne, compared to Playboy's whole army, Dwayne was definitely left in the dirt by Playboy.
I killed dwayne on my first playthrough. He was just extremely annoying and always a drab, complaining about his life and how depressed he was like all the time. It was so annoying lmao
@@_------------_ but like thats all he ever talked about… how much his life sucked and how depressed he was. Literally every single conversation with him was about his depression
@@deafbyhiphop but he also gave you respect and homies to help you, plus you get playboy house. The guy had alot of problems in his life lol his girlfriend left him, he went to jail, was broke, his friend betrayed him. Playboy is worse he talks dirty about you, he thinks he is above all, makes you do dirty tasks, plus he hates you for killing dwayne lmao.
Ahh...I remember this mission.....First I didn't pay much attention the story ..do this .do that..and then this mission came...What stirred my heart is that the man who was just out of the prison was ordered to be killed off by his brother...as I said ,I wasn't attentive to the story.So I went to kill Dwayne...There I saw a poor homeless guy carrying a baseball bat nervously trying to hit me...I killed him..confronted Dwayne but I couldn't kill him..But I couldn't go back to playboy x crib either..so I restarted the game and put down playboy x like a fkin dog....
I think Gta IV would have been better if they changed Dwayne's name to 8-Ball Edit: I now understand that R* has different universes for each system I suppose, yet the reason I say that is because Dwaynes story could match up with 8-Ball. All 8-Ball was (in GTA III was) a helping hand with no backstory whatsoever. Think of it like this: After the events of GTA III 8-Ball has friends that left him or dead and so he goes to prison. He never really had any character development, he was just flat. Not really memorable (only for that Bomb Da Base Act ii' mission).
The Guy Who Posts GTA 4 is a *"Reboot"* it has nothing to do with GTA 3,San andreas&Vice City... You can clearly see that its liberty city is completely different from GTA 3's liberty city.
I didn’t pay enough attention to the story and thought that Niko and Playboy X were closer friends than they actually were, so I picked Dwayne to kill. Man, I wish I paid attention to the story more lol.
The only reason I killed Playboy X was because he really started to seem like an asshole and that I felt really bad for dwayne. He was a good guy and I keep hanging out with him just to hear that he's happy. I know its a videogame but R* Games did a GREAT job with the campaign.
When nicko says “I know what I’m going to do” it sounded in his voice that he wanted to kill playboy x. I just preformed what Niko was thinking. Plus I called Roman after every mission I recommend it. It’s extra dialogue.
If you kill Dwayne, Playboy X will give you a lot of money but he just disappears you never see him again. If you kill Playboy X you'll get his cool apartment, Dwayne comes and hangs out with you and he'll send you back up.
I think that's why I killed him way back the first time I played it plus u get money and I didn't care about having the safe house since I don't even use em
I think thats why I killed Dwayne, to me it was just kill this or that guy. I wasn’t emotionally invested in the story anymore and just want to wrap it up. 😂
It can be annoying but can't blame him, he lost everything and you are the only friend he has left. Though he could've just went to therapy but it might not help
This wasn't really a choice and I guess was just a test of the character of the player before everyone knew killing Playboy was a payoff. Its nothing like letting dirty Francis live and getting payday and a perk v. letting already dead on the inside with nothing to give Derrick... I bet they did this to screw with you. 1) I killed Playboy because he was a bitch and defended my friend, Derrick is the right choice 2) I got screwed!!! just a junkie who f'd up a robbery and is threatened by incarcerated inmates I wonder how Rockstar would retcon the fact Gerald could run a kidnapping but couldn't escape during the prison riot in TLAD (I know it preceded but that kind of sloppiness is more disconcerting than the disappearance of Ray Bulgarin and him sending more soldiers after tertiary characters with a loose association). But they all make more sense than the ending. There is no way OUR Niko Bellic would ever trust Dmitri after the kidnapping. Particularly at the end of the game, there's no way he would remain that naive no matter what the pricetag. Particularly after the confrontation with Darko. I just find it funny the one time R* rewarded sensibility was actually at the BEGINNING of the game's dramatic apex when Niko's world is collapsing and by the end he's giving into temptation despite repeatedly proving his ability to focus.
Francis was a piece of shit, I disliked him more than anyone else even Playboy X, I wanted to rip his mustache off his mouth. I like Dwayne because hes the Original Gangster, he had empathy and gave Niko Sympathy for what they been through. In the end Niko should of went out with Faustins wife, they would of made a good couple, but that last one would have been my choice instead not Niko. Niko's choice would to be live alone, and in the end he got just that.
1. You can't say that Gerald didn't escape during Johnny's attack on the prison (it may have happened after IVs credits, and there is no reason for Gerald to contact Niko if he did escape). 2. I see no problem with Ray Bulgarin escaping the country after Dimitri's death, taking all the heroin and sending assassins to kill Tony and Luis (and, for all that Bulgarin knows, retrieve 2 million in stolen diamonds)... I agree the amount of russian gangsters is excessive (but it's still a game so...). 3. I agree that Niko wouldn't trust Dimitri (that's why the Revenge ending is canon)... on the other hand, it's only picking up the cash, not working (or seeing) Dimitri... and maybe he did it for Roman, since he was also getting married right after the deal. ALSO... after killing Darko (if the player did kill him) Niko didn't feel better, so maybe he lost the taste for revenge.
whatever57010 Actually if you watch the composite walkthroughs of all versions Gerald is still incarcerated after TLAD is completed. The Ray Bulgarin issue is not as prominent other than it seemed Rockstar! realized they had left that unresolved and passed the buck onto Luis. TBoGT is kind of inconsistent but I mostly see that as again it was just a way to tie up a lot of loose ends. While allowing the player to choose to kill Dmitri is in keeping with the ability to decide the fate of your opponent's its just hardly seems canonical. Most people agree allowing Kate to die at the end of the game is a more realistic outcome as well. I'm just saying it was this feature wasn't as workable as I think Rockstar! intended and thats obviously why they removed it from GTA V because there are better ways to give a game more replay value than arbitrary decisions which are weighted fairly heavily in one direction in most cases.
***** As far as I know "It is unknown what happened to Gerald in the attack of the prison in the final mission of The Lost and Damned." so if you could explain how you know that he didn't escape... With the rest of your arguments I agree...
Back then, I always wondered what happened to Mr. Bulgarin. I was very satisfied with TBOGT and I think it was played off very well. Even though I would of preferred better if Niko did him in because I felt as if Luis didn't belong in those circumstances. Niko and Mr. Bulgarin had a past, Luis barely knew the guy from a hole in the wall. I agree with you. Though I think I liked the darker ending more, especially when Niko sais Welcome to America.
I remember accidentally clicking on killing him, and after I went to his apartment, I did it, couldn’t live with it so I restarted the whole game just to save him, felt like I ripped my soul apart mane
This is an interesting question. The game "wants" you to kill Playboy X, because it rewards you much more. But who is the most moral choice? The only decent justification would be self defense or if someone did something really really bad.
Neither one of them did something really bad to the other before the confrontation, although it's true that Playboy eventually stopped visiting Dwayne in prison.
Playboy is the first person to tell you to ice Dwayne, rather than the other way around, but Playboy gives a good reason - that Dwayne is trying to kill him first, because Dwayne is paranoid.
So the main question becomes how well do you believe Playboy that Dwayne was already trying to kill him?
There are reasons to think so. Niko tells Dwayne that Playboy has always been straight with him, so that suggests that Playboy was honest, but that is not necessarily so. Someone could tell you a lie, but say it in a straight way. Plus, Niko could be wrong that Playboy was truthful.
Also, it's true that Dwayne started getting paranoid. He was complaining alot about people after he left the slammer, so he could have realy been paranoid about Playboy too. Dwayne could have been acting on his paranoia and lashing out without reasoning things through, in a way not unlike Faustin attacking Petrovic's relative earlier in the game.
Plus, Dwayne already had gotten Niko to ice both Jayvon in order to settle an old account, the new managers at the strip club, and potentially also Cherise his old girlfriend, although it turned out he later said he didn't want her taken out. So there is a pattern of attacks that suggest Dwayne might have the mindset to take out Playboy.
Further, Playboy described his conversation with Dwayne. He said he tried to reason with Dwayne (offering him half his gang back out of Playboy's), but that Dwayne rejected it as not good enough. This suggests Dwayne would have been against Playboy in revenge.
There are also good reasons to doubt that Dwayne was already taking the initiative. Dwayne had very few friends after getting out of the slammer, but was close to Niko. So there would have been few people who Dwayne would have told to kill Playboy before he talked to Niko. To believe Playboy, you would have to believe that Dwayne went to at least 1 more person and asked them to take out Playboy, but that this person told Playboy about it instead. And there are not many people who Dwayne had to do that, and besides, Dwayne is portrayed as a careful distrusting person, so he would probably not say it to someone who would betray him like that.
Second of all, Playboy does not initially say directly that Dwayne was trying to kill him. Playboy rambles a bit in the conversation, and talks in an offhand, loose manner, and does not sound really trustworthy. Only later in the conversation does he pose as a hypothetical what to do to someone who is trying to kill you, and his manner of talking leaves the impression that he was making it up about Dwayne.
The most likely scenario therefore is that Playboy was just making up the claim that Dwayne was trying to kill him, but it would not be surprising if Dwayne really had been trying to.
I think at the very least you're putting too much stock in what X tells you, which for the most part sounds like bullshit. He didn't offer Dwayne shit if you ask me, he was ducking his calls after D got out.
Dwayne cant do anything to kill playboy anyway. There is only one guy that defends Dwayne and he only has baseball bat. Unless Dwayne goes kamizake but Dwayne's paranoia is justified due to 15 years in jail
Playboy X is the cannon choice. No one would willingly kill Dwayne. And even if you decide to kill Dwayne, you would save first before the decision and reload that save and then kill Playboy just to see both outcomes. Screw Playboy X.
I will be so happy if Rockstar brings back the realism of GTA IV in GTA VI. GTA IV was like one classic movie with a couple of Oscars that you see and remember while GTA V felt like one of these blockbuster that you see at the cinema while eating popcorns and forget after two days. Shout out to Michael though, only deep character in that game because no, being "crazy" because your father abandoned you and you have mother issues is not being deep, Trevor.
Interesting thing to note: Roman sounds displeased on the phone after killing Playboy X. Roman is probably driven by money if he were to be tasked with killing someone that has money on the line, hence when you save Dwayne, Roman ends the conversation on the phone with "Eh good, speak soon" he sounds very disinterested and could care less for someone that has their lives saved but getting nothing in return. *A selfish bastard of a cousin*
I’m glad I didn’t kill dwayne, the way playboy tells you how he has beef with you even thoe he was the one that ordered the hit was SUCH BS. While dwayne was like cool and gave you his playboy penthouse. Fuck playboy
Even worse is that Dwayne doesn’t even put up a fight and just accepts his death😢😢😢😢 Niko can’t even look at him because he knows its the wrong decision🤦🏿🤦🏿🤦🏿🤦🏿
Depressing fact: if you choose to kill Playboy X(which is the better option) and get Dwayne above 80% friendship which unlocks his caller option for some backup, it doesn't count towards the 100% however it is strongly suggested he takes his own life as later on in the game, you are unable to call him as you always go to voice mail. You never see him again after. He was always heavily and obviously depressed.
@@zruss apparantly so, I thought my game bugged because he just never answers no matter the time but it happens to a lot of people to so its inplied that he does take his own life. Typically he likes to hang out at night and either get drunk or pool, he gets upset if he loses so I always let him win.
How long has it been since you last hung out with him in-game? If you go an extended amount of time (a while) without hanging out with friends, they will refuse to answer your calls. You have to wait for them to randomly call you, which they will still do after some time has passed. After accepting whatever activity they call for, they'll answer your calls again as normal. I had this happen before with Brucie.
I couldn’t get myself to kill Dwayne no matter how many times I played the game. Playboy X always gave me that backstabber vibe. Glad to see I was right all along
In my first playtrough, I killed Dwayne. I wasn't old enough to understand, so I just didn't cared, I picked Dwayne because Playboy would give me money for it and Dwayne probably will give me nothing. Then the phonecall after Dwayne's death, I really hated Playboy after that. I wanted to kill him too, but he disappeared. Then, my 2nd playtrough, picked Playboy because I was curious and, damn, seeing Dwayne as your friend now and a very useful perk AND PLAYBOY'S PLACE AS YOURS, MAAAAAN I really hated myself for killing Dwayne the first time.
I killed Dwayne the first time and I got so mad that I made that mistake, couldn't I have atleast of gotten playboy x's respect? the second time I killed Playboy X and got Dwayne's respect and all atleast
Playboy: You took down Dwayne, Niko. Niko: Yeah I did. *Just like you asked me to.* Playboy: Oh. Uh… Yeah. You did what you had to do, Niko. I also paid you the money. Peace.
I was always amused at how both of them react pretty aggressive as Niko approaching their apartments, even knowing that he didn't kill the other one lol
So many years ago when I played for the first time, I technically wasn’t really paying attention to the story between playboy x and Dwayne. So when I got to the part to kill one of them, my dumbass decided to go after Dwayne and after I was done with that, I was confused on why playboy x was mad when Niko killed Dwayne. After learning about their story, I decided to restart my game and instead go after playboy x, and whenever I play I still do
If you kill Dwayne, Playboy will offer you money. Nothing more If you kill Playboy, Dwayne will not only offer friendship but an apartment and bodyguards Friendship > Money
I chose to kill Dwayne on my first ever play through. I remember immediately questioning whether I had made the right decision. And feeling like an absolute bag of trash for choosing that option. Even though it’s just a video game at the end of the day, you get so invested in the story and characters that you feel genuine satisfaction or remorse depending upon what action you take. I regretted killing Dwayne to the extent I switched the game off immediately after the mission ended. Played through IV a few times since and always killed Playboy X every time, each time avenging the mistake I made the first time round.
I killed Playboy when I played this game for 2 reasons - 1) Playboy is a bitch and 2) I didn't have the heart to kill Dwayne. I felt bad for his situation and was actually glad that he and Niko become friends after this lol
I can think of multiple reasons NOT to kill Dwayne. Tbh, Playboy X was one of my favorite characters in the game and the Dwayne character is rather dry, but he makes a great friend and useful ally. He'll actually back you up on just about any mission except for the final two storyline missions (Deal or Revenge Mission & Killing Pegorino/Dimitri in the final mission), and you get to keep Playboys Loft as a safehouse, but their is literally NO benefit to killing Dwayne and sparing Playboy X other than the $25K.
I've never killed Dwayne, even when I kept replaying the game from the beginning. I think I would actually hate myself if I kill Dwayne. He's too much of a bro.
Yeah dude is literally depressed and in misery, killing him wouldn't put it out, it would just make his misery worse because he died thinking everyone is a snake and hates him
I killed playboy x all the times i've played and i'm proud of this now
Same here
why did play boy want to kill Dwayne he lost everything
Yeah, same here. Last time we killed the "bad" friend (Mikhail) you know what happened. Learned from my mistakes.
I didn't really listen all that much about the story, and killed dwayne thinking playboy x was a friend, but I knew I fucked up when I got that snarky phone call. needless to say i got pissed off.
Armando Henriques yeah you'll get Playboy's house
Lol everyone has to watch this on UA-cam because practically no one killed Dwayne.
Dirtbag359 exactly everyone some real ass people
@yeet I bet you felt awful afterwards.
Joseph Rudowicz I'm not sure about the other guy but I definitely felt bad and even tho I was young I realized one thing "Dwayne had one dude defend him he must've been a good friend"
Dirtbag359 I did kill him but I was too young to understand so I just went to kill him
@haha I'm always bored It was the first time a video game made me legitimately sad and remorseful. Dwayne stays by your side as a friend who can help you out with backup on missions. X pays you and tells you to fuck off like your the cold bastard for killing Dwayne when he hired you to do it. It's like, damn, you paid the money, you wanted him dead. If he paid one of his goons to do it, he wouldn't cut ties with him and made it about a beef. That phone call with X made me wish I killed him so bad. I deleted the file and started over determined to make sure X paid for what he did and said and made my friendship 100% with Dwayne.
You should never kill Dwyane. His backup is actually really useful, and he's pretty cool.
yeah i use it to kill cops
VERY useful
Very useful. A homeless guy punched me and all 3 of Dwaynes backup guys pulled out sub machine guns and blew the guy away lol
joe curtis how Did you get 3 of dwayne's backup?
encyclopedic facts
It seems like everyone killed Playboy X because he's fake, Dwayne's a good guy, etc...I simply killed Playboy X because I though I would get his fat apartment, and man was I right. Just like when you kill Ricardo Diaz in GTA Vice City.
Yours looks like you're from gta 5. Wait...
+Michael de Santa true I wish dat too
yeah that apartment is balls, that's part of the reason why I schmortzened playboy
Tyler Crane and you get Claude's outfit
I read about you gettin' Claude's outfit & an apartment for choosing to kill Playboy X, before I even played GTA 4 so when his character was introduced, I knew I was gon have to smoke him later. I wanted Claude's clothes!
Face it: you're here because you couldn't do it. (I couldn't either.)
Bruh you read my mind!
Dwayne was the man I couldn't kill him he was mad humble
+Phin Hamak uh, no? i did this on my first playtrough because i thought money was important somehow and i didn't want to piss off big players in town '-'
***** No offense, but you got what you deserved then.
+Phin Hamak Yeah, I couldnt do it. Like Niko, I saw someone very much like myself. Dwayne might complain alot, and gripe: but he's real. Playboy X is a phony.
This feels depressing with only one guy armed with an bat protecting him...
yea 😪
That guy was willing to die for his boss even when Dwayne had given up hope.
@@zacharyriley4561I lowkey think that guy was just some crazy crackhead going through a episode
@@kaiserwave5977 Then why would Dwayne just have a druggie around? He was probably still a friend. Also druggies usually don’t have enough strategy to hide behind a door.
Fr 😔
I see almost no point in ever killing Dwayne and probably never will, money has no use in this game, hanging out with friends leads to interesting dialogue.
Think of all the hotdogs you could've bought bruhwhen you see a dank ass comment and it's yours from over a year ago
#feelsgoodman
You could buy weapons, clothes, and spray paint your car, buy food to replenish your health, car wash, taxi, bowling, all that.
when Dwayne likes you enough, you can call him to send you two guys for backup too
@@masterassassin5114 Or you could just use cheats
@@masterassassin5114 you get money from other missions anyway to cover all of that, it's enough to go around
i felt bad for dwayne, i let him live, he is a good guy
same
RubenG yes
RubenG Me too , and if we kill Playboy X , We Get apartment and Claude's Outfit
Lucas Ribas who the fuck is claude
Mikey Montana The protagonist from GTA III (also Liberty City)
Playboy: "Go kill Dwayne for me."
*Kills Dwayne*
Playboy: "That was cold, Nico."
Take Janner I know he told him to do it so why would he care
@@noahsmith4877 he doesn't care, at all, he's just acting like that to erase his guilt. playbox X is an asshole.
Playboy X was the definition of a snake
Hypocrisy at it's finest.
Probably called "Playboy" because he Played you.
wait, playboy x told you to kill dwayne, and when you kill him, playboy is angry with you?
Christ chris Thats what i was also wondering
Christ chris Playboy only care for himself and money. He acts like he owns the city. What an assholr
GamesHQ - Yusuf isn't really arrogant. And to say he's like Yusuf is an insult to Yusuf.
GamesHQ Yusuf is a funny rich guy
I thought maybe he did that in case the call got intercepted. dunno
We all killed Playboy for one or all the following reasons:
1. It is the morally correct choice (since Playboy asks Niko to kill Dwayne first and for no good reason, while Dwayne asks Niko to kill Playboy because he is afraid for his life)
2. We didn't avoid spoilers and KNEW what the rewards would be
3. We personally just didn't like Playboy X
That and thefact that Niko himself told Dwayne that he reminds him of himself.
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Also, I noticed the parking space on front of PBX's house 1st time I went there. Didn't need to even think when the choice came
its the third one for me, and boy am i proud of my decisioj
It was 1 and 3 for me. I liked him alright at first, but each mission made it more and more obvious that he’s completely full of shit. When he told me to kill Dwayne I was just waiting for the game to give me the option to kill him instead lol
It is the morally correct choice.
Playboy is a hypocrite.
Playboy is a false role model.
Playboy abandons Dwayne.
Playboy betrayed Dwayne.
He took Dwayne's apartment.
He took over Dwayne's business.
Let Dwayne's gentleman's club get taken over.
Does business with the people who took over the club Dwayne owned.
Talks behind Dwayne's back.
Initiates and orders Dwayne's death.
Takes enjoyment in the prospect that Niko might kill Dwayne.
Shows no kind of regret or remorse for killing people and "kids" by selling drugs.
Profits off of the suffering of others.
Puts on a bs holier-than-thou excuse of a sob story/inspirational speech to save face.
when Playboy asked me to kill Dwayne, immediately remembered Dmitri. So the choices for me in this scenario was clear.
He tells you to kill him and then he calls you Cold for doing it
Ikr like wtf
@@jackryan1143 like he told Niko to do it
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Fucking hypocrite had i had the chance i would've killed Playboy
That's why I killed playboy X , he was just annoying
I killed playboy once, then after finishing I started again and chose dwayne. I felt terrible even though it was just a computer program in the game. For future players kill playboy
gareth cooney same
Im a new player and im gonna Choose what everyone else is choosing, you guys say its better to end PlayBoy X.. so im taking PlayBoyX down lol
@@BlockWorks I recommend you kill play boy because if I felt empty when I killed him, it is because I created a good profile and a bad one and in addition to killing playboy x because they are going to give you several rewards
@@Cuellar.402 i actually finished GTA IV like.. 5 months ago and yeah, i killed PlayBoy X, i got cash, i got a brand new house and i got Claude's Outfit from GTA 3
Even Niko can't look at Dwayne while killing him. That's a huge hint that killing Dwayne is the wrong choice.
Dwayne refuses to face Niko and gives him his back, almost as if to say "You want to betray me ? For just some money ? Here's my back then, stab it and get it over with. I can't even look at you..."
And even with Dwayne only showing his back, Niko still cant find it in himself to face Dwayne while killing him. I'll never kill Dwayne. No matter what.
This game reminds me of The Wire
All these little details
Yeah. If you kill Playboy. Niko still stares at Playboy.
i miss GTA IV, most realistic and brutal gta game for sure
"most brutal".
In LCS, you kill some fat dude with a chainsaw, make sausages out of him and sell them.
most realistic in physics not grapich
@@redrocketrider Brutally realistic. Not ridiculous.
Brutal
GTA 3: Am I a joke to you?
@@Khadafi_1986 nah trevor kills/eats people for fun lol and didn't micheal blow up a building?
I wonder what kind of a soulless, heartless person would choose to kill Dwayne
+groovesan me
+groovesan come on, man, don't be like that. I just want to see all the possible ways to deal with a game's mission
Dwayne is a drug dealer, and all of them should be dead
was* he already paid his debt in jail
GrooveSan Me. I felt so sad and couldn't even watch killing him but play boy x mission was hard and I kept dying so I picked Dwayne.
I really miss the execution scenes from this game! The killing was made so personal and intimate. With the pistol you could chose how to execute them in a stylish cinematic way. GTA V never had those moments! This game was the real deal, and I hope they bring back the same grit in the next one.
Reverse Flash If they dont...
somebody will.
Turba Lamar was supposedly to replace whoever you kill but around the time of development the voice actor was busted.
reverse flash I agree I wish they had execution cutscenes on gta 5 too lol
I thought I was the only one who missed it
BingusDoesIt wow great way of putting I️t
reasons to kill playboy X: two homies you can call anytime. A new freind. A new car. A new apartment. New clothes. that might be it.
Reasons to kill dawyne: money (which is basically useless) and a lecture about how you are a bad guy even though X ordered the killing
***** yep
ProGamerTiago_1996FTW Yeah true After you buy all the properties in vice city you really have nothing to spend it on
ProGamerTiago_1996FTW True
Why you need money in GTA V? You can buy every property playing with Lester's missions and those properties are useless apart from the cab depot that gives you some interesting missions.
Tommy Vercetti plz learn to swim
I'd never chose this option but I've got to admit Roman's call was pretty funny.
Hideus_Ex roman is the guy that will make a slight smile after killing Dwayne
I love his mindset. He's so sincere and yet so funny
@@Lucalp41 Romans greedy about money
Roman is an optimist, hoping things will get better and try to make you happy. Personally, I would like to have Roman as a cousin.
@2000s Were The Best indeed
I love how Roman is so optimistic about everything. When everything seems so negative, Roman makes it so positive.
In actuality, he just likes money. He was chasing money in the situation with Dimitri Rascalov too, in the end of the story. I like Roman but he cares too much about money.
I dont think this really helped niko in any way
Niko: Man they just killed my girlfriend.
Roman: Oh, at least we can go to the strip club more often then, cousin.
So... wanna go bowling?
Not everytime
Since we already seen what Roman has to say in case of vlad's kill by niko.
“Clean hotel room and a dirty college girl “Roman was wilding😭😭😭🥺💀💀
why didn't Rockstar add the clean hotel room and the dirty college girl, I mean ffs the game is already rated for mature..
a freaky bad bitch
Sorry, but what are You talking? Can You explain me?
@@tomasprado1486 2:50.
in gta 6 it would be cool if you could rent out different types of hotels from low end trash to high end luxury and the more money you make you can get more and more luxurious hotel rooms. And you can call in call girls and strippers and stuff. would be a cool way to spend your money.
@2000s Were The Best well he can go to a strip club but I guess it's more mature than a clean hotel room with a dirty college girl, and it fits well
I ended storyline like 4 times, but never could kill Dwayne. This week I started playing again and again did not kill him.
***** In my case i have a slot for the revenge ending and another one for the deal ending.
+Rex Lat Same dude. I can't bring myself to kill him.
it is ok to kill derrick. based on gta V, derrick died anyways. (probably from a drug overdose) plus francis can clear your wanted level. and u get a shit tonne of money if u call francis during the mission before the shooting.
What, Felix I didn't know that. I mean Kiki can clear your wanted level too. But I didn't know the fact he'll give you money if you call him, hahaha that's great. It'd be funny if you could take his money and then kill him anyways.
Nice.
I always kill Playboy X. You get backup, a penthouse with a computer, and a new friend.
And Claude’s outfit
I didn't know his Penthouse has computer and we can access it just like in Tw@?
@@tyrus350 it doesn't, the other algonquin safehouse does
@@xcz1gd
Thanks 😁
@@xcz1gdit does, the computer is in the downstairs lobby, on the receptionist's desk
This game has so much attention to detail. When niko shoots dwayne, he looks away, and after he calls roman, you can clearly hear it in his voice that he regrets it.
Whoever choose to kill Dwyane are totally selfish. I mean look Dwyane didn't even fight back at Niko. He got betrayed, his girlfriend cheated on him and a most friend wants to kill him just because business problem. Damn...
saifuddin jamil I choosed to kill dwayne not knowing the circumstances, now I feel sad.
It's a game lol
Dude, its a game, its not like your gonna kill a man in real life
@@howard6541 so what, people cry or get angry over characters in movies, films, animes, etc, it's a game, but it still teachs you valuable lessons for your life , besides mocking society and everything it offers, GTA, especially GTA IV, teachs you that the life of crime isn't worth at all, even when you feel you're going to suceed on the game, something that is out of your control happens. showing that there's no happiness and only misery, we know it's a game, but it's a game everyone loves to play, and everyone will defend the character they sympathize more, or attack the character they hate. there's no shame treating video games characters like they're real people, after all, they are BASED off real people... so let alone the "it's just a game lol" argument... and make a favor to yourself and think about how hypocrite is your statement considering you already felt bad or good for some character in a video game, movie, anime, etc, before.
@@naoaquieopatrickpatrick8565 I understand your POV( Point of View)
Ik that we all like character from movies, games, anime's, etc.
But what I'm actually focusing on is what happen if those who choose to kill Dwayne is 9 years old or people who don't understand emotion. so he say that people are selfish if they choose to kill Dwayne, they are people, and that he should not just say because you kill Dwayne you just call them selfish directly.
Playboy X's phone call telling you off was Rockstars way of telling saying you made a bad choice.
I wish I could restart the scene but it's too late now. I feel so bad
Playboy x is so bi- polar
Coney Island Queen And a scumbag
Yeah and he was the one who wanted Niko to track down Dwayne and he got mad for that. I am so glad I killed Playboy.
He isnt bipolar, he is narcissistic. Like Dimitry
Playboy X is Dmitri and Dwayne is Faustin
Dwayne is not Faustin
i hope GTA VI will be a darker GTA like IV was :( but i fear that this will only be a hope...
xXE4GLEyEXx true, i like the dark gang and mafia feel of iv, the story is just 10 times better. gta v has some fun mechanics but my heart will always go to iv!
i dont think so, its a shame. IV was a huge game
xXE4GLEyEXx GTA 5 was also very dark. If you remember, San Andreas was like GTA 5, more vibrant and colorful. If Rockstar does Vice City for GTA VI, then we'll probably end up with a dark GTA VI. GTA 5 had a lot of dark moments, and both stories are equally good.
that's why I always play the good guy role to avoid unnecessary dramas. I actually pointed my gun on Dwayne and fired few shots in his room before I decided to kill myself and restart the mission so I can kill Playboy instead.
Dawson Retter But SA was done right.
That's how people sell their friends
Yea man. I friends sell me out now i lost my job 😪
@@bull7991hope u are okay
Playboy X: “go kill dwayne”
Niko: “kills Dwayne”
Playboy X: “😲”
That only make Niko a tragic character... you clearly did not pay attention to the storyline of GTA IV, Niko always tried to fix his life and get over what happened to him... the reason for his bad moves is bad circumstances and the poor had he was given.
And please don't compare the brilliant (and literary masterpiece) storyline of GTA IV to the lame (let's put all the work into visually improving the game and make a brilliant multiplayer) storyline of V.
I would never kill dwayne...
Let's fail together I did....I felt like crying
Dwayne is a good friend, i killed Playbox X
Yeah me too because it's racist
@@EastEuropeanPropaganda just so you know playboy x is also a black person lmao
@@KyleGD yes both of them is black not being racist
I dont think anyone with a soul would kill dwayne
I killed Dwayne.
You put him out of his mysery,he clearly suffers from depression and wants to die anyway.No friends,no future.He's a good guy but choosing not.to kill him may not be the best for him I guess.I'd want to kill them both if there'd be an option
@@xardomancer7371 i respect your opinion but killing Dwayne doesn't mean you will put him out of his misery, especially when he states that Niko "betrayed him" rather than saved him. if Dwayne wanted to die he would've beg to Niko to kill him. but actually he wanted Niko to be his friend rather than his Killer, that's why you should spare him, You may not solve all his problem, but you will be his hope.
@@xardomancer7371 you are a maniac lmao
@@xardomancer7371 That's a big 'avoid' right there.
I have played gta iv trough a few times before and only 1 time I killed Dwayne and I know its all just a video game but I actually felt bad when I did it and I found this hard to watch too. I have no remorse killing playboy though.
Same with me
I do things out of spite Dwayne is like a father figure in a way to Niko; he's the old, retired veteran who just wants a simple life. And he's already so depressed about life, just look at his resignation when Niko tries to kill him. That's really sad. On the other hand, Playboy is an asshole. The fact that he severed ties with Niko after Niko killed Dwayne in this video further supports my view. Glad I chose to kill Playboy, but i suppose that's what most people chose.
+Roman Bellic ROMAN!If you dont know serbian then you are fake so tell me something on serbian.
I do things out of spite same
I do things out of spite you don't get that connection in gta5
Bruh the saddest thing is play boy x had a crew to defend him while Dwayne had a homeless guy whit a baseball bat
Playboy x is nothing more than a liar, a coward, a traitor and a hypocrite
I finsihed this multiple times and never chose to kill dwayne. Now watching this i cant even remember what the beef was
I killed Playboy because Dwayne was the good guy. "You can't change the game, but the game changed you"
"You didn't change the game, the game changed you"*
I feel so bad for Dwayne in this mission. It's also depressing how there is only one guy to help out Dwayne, compared to Playboy's whole army, Dwayne was definitely left in the dirt by Playboy.
You can't kill Dwayne, you just can't
*Stop me then i'm getting that free money*
I killed dwayne on my first playthrough. He was just extremely annoying and always a drab, complaining about his life and how depressed he was like all the time. It was so annoying lmao
@@deafbyhiphop but he had reasons 💀 playboy was way more annoying. Rich people have a big ego.
@@_------------_ but like thats all he ever talked about… how much his life sucked and how depressed he was. Literally every single conversation with him was about his depression
@@deafbyhiphop but he also gave you respect and homies to help you, plus you get playboy house.
The guy had alot of problems in his life lol his girlfriend left him, he went to jail, was broke, his friend betrayed him.
Playboy is worse he talks dirty about you, he thinks he is above all, makes you do dirty tasks, plus he hates you for killing dwayne lmao.
Ahh...I remember this mission.....First I didn't pay much attention the story ..do this .do that..and then this mission came...What stirred my heart is that the man who was just out of the prison was ordered to be killed off by his brother...as I said ,I wasn't attentive to the story.So I went to kill Dwayne...There I saw a poor homeless guy carrying a baseball bat nervously trying to hit me...I killed him..confronted Dwayne but I couldn't kill him..But I couldn't go back to playboy x crib either..so I restarted the game and put down playboy x like a fkin dog....
+Respect
Made me crying 😢
Take my bow king
I think Gta IV would have been better if they changed Dwayne's name to 8-Ball
Edit: I now understand that R* has different universes for each system I suppose, yet the reason I say that is because Dwaynes story could match up with 8-Ball. All 8-Ball was (in GTA III was) a helping hand with no backstory whatsoever. Think of it like this: After the events of GTA III 8-Ball has friends that left him or dead and so he goes to prison. He never really had any character development, he was just flat. Not really memorable (only for that Bomb Da Base Act ii' mission).
The Guy Who Posts why?
It would have given the character more depth and 8-Ball also lives in Liberty City
The Guy Who Posts GTA 4 universe is different from GTA 3's universe.
***** How so? They mention the same people.
The Guy Who Posts GTA 4 is a *"Reboot"* it has nothing to do with GTA 3,San andreas&Vice City...
You can clearly see that its liberty city is completely different from GTA 3's liberty city.
first time i was playing i chose to kill Dwayne but then i felt really sorry and i wanted to rip appart Playboy X
Marko Vig same actually
Same happened to me, I played the game another 10 times and always killed Playboy lol.
Playboy X: “Go kill Dwayne”
*kills Dwayne*
Playboy X: “WhY diD yOu kiLL dWaYnE??? YoU coLD NiKo”
Sad fact : Dwane actually was not scary by the death but it was sad about his best friend who trust him , he betray him
I didn’t pay enough attention to the story and thought that Niko and Playboy X were closer friends than they actually were, so I picked Dwayne to kill. Man, I wish I paid attention to the story more lol.
Same thing happened to me.
Hell, I killed Playboy and the reason is clear enough.
I hate the today's wannabees...
And the house is awesome
Everytime I replay I kill Playboy to get his house and to have Dwayne as a friend and to get his backup.
The only reason I killed Playboy X was because he really started to seem like an asshole and that I felt really bad for dwayne. He was a good guy and I keep hanging out with him just to hear that he's happy. I know its a videogame but R* Games did a GREAT job with the campaign.
+Yusuf Maz Same here man.... I did activities with only with Dwayne just to cheer him up....!!
When nicko says “I know what I’m going to do” it sounded in his voice that he wanted to kill playboy x. I just preformed what Niko was thinking. Plus I called Roman after every mission I recommend it. It’s extra dialogue.
Moments like these throughout the game on who you decide to kill and who you let live really define your character
Playboy is a narcissistic, and killing Dwayne is a double binding, damned if you and damned if you don't
If you kill Dwayne, Playboy X will give you a lot of money but he just disappears you never see him again.
If you kill Playboy X you'll get his cool apartment, Dwayne comes and hangs out with you and he'll send you back up.
If you choose to kill Dwayne, then you have no heart I actually feel bad for him throughout the game and his character
I think that's why I killed him way back the first time I played it plus u get money and I didn't care about having the safe house since I don't even use em
I think thats why I killed Dwayne, to me it was just kill this or that guy. I wasn’t emotionally invested in the story anymore and just want to wrap it up. 😂
The only thing I don’t like about Dwayne is when you hang out with him he always talks about depressing shit
It can be annoying but can't blame him, he lost everything and you are the only friend he has left. Though he could've just went to therapy but it might not help
You can tell this is wrong on soo many levels just by the way Rockstar set this up.
Ive been playing this game for over ten years and not once have i chosen to kill Dwayne
This wasn't really a choice and I guess was just a test of the character of the player before everyone knew killing Playboy was a payoff. Its nothing like letting dirty Francis live and getting payday and a perk v. letting already dead on the inside with nothing to give Derrick... I bet they did this to screw with you.
1) I killed Playboy because he was a bitch and defended my friend, Derrick is the right choice
2) I got screwed!!! just a junkie who f'd up a robbery and is threatened by incarcerated inmates
I wonder how Rockstar would retcon the fact Gerald could run a kidnapping but couldn't escape during the prison riot in TLAD (I know it preceded but that kind of sloppiness is more disconcerting than the disappearance of Ray Bulgarin and him sending more soldiers after tertiary characters with a loose association).
But they all make more sense than the ending. There is no way OUR Niko Bellic would ever trust Dmitri after the kidnapping. Particularly at the end of the game, there's no way he would remain that naive no matter what the pricetag. Particularly after the confrontation with Darko. I just find it funny the one time R* rewarded sensibility was actually at the BEGINNING of the game's dramatic apex when Niko's world is collapsing and by the end he's giving into temptation despite repeatedly proving his ability to focus.
Francis was a piece of shit, I disliked him more than anyone else even Playboy X, I wanted to rip his mustache off his mouth.
I like Dwayne because hes the Original Gangster, he had empathy and gave Niko Sympathy for what they been through.
In the end Niko should of went out with Faustins wife, they would of made a good couple, but that last one would have been my choice instead not Niko. Niko's choice would to be live alone, and in the end he got just that.
1. You can't say that Gerald didn't escape during Johnny's attack on the prison (it may have happened after IVs credits, and there is no reason for Gerald to contact Niko if he did escape).
2. I see no problem with Ray Bulgarin escaping the country after Dimitri's death, taking all the heroin and sending assassins to kill Tony and Luis (and, for all that Bulgarin knows, retrieve 2 million in stolen diamonds)... I agree the amount of russian gangsters is excessive (but it's still a game so...).
3. I agree that Niko wouldn't trust Dimitri (that's why the Revenge ending is canon)... on the other hand, it's only picking up the cash, not working (or seeing) Dimitri... and maybe he did it for Roman, since he was also getting married right after the deal.
ALSO... after killing Darko (if the player did kill him) Niko didn't feel better, so maybe he lost the taste for revenge.
whatever57010 Actually if you watch the composite walkthroughs of all versions Gerald is still incarcerated after TLAD is completed.
The Ray Bulgarin issue is not as prominent other than it seemed Rockstar! realized they had left that unresolved and passed the buck onto Luis. TBoGT is kind of inconsistent but I mostly see that as again it was just a way to tie up a lot of loose ends.
While allowing the player to choose to kill Dmitri is in keeping with the ability to decide the fate of your opponent's its just hardly seems canonical. Most people agree allowing Kate to die at the end of the game is a more realistic outcome as well. I'm just saying it was this feature wasn't as workable as I think Rockstar! intended and thats obviously why they removed it from GTA V because there are better ways to give a game more replay value than arbitrary decisions which are weighted fairly heavily in one direction in most cases.
***** As far as I know "It is unknown what happened to Gerald in the attack of the prison in the final mission of The Lost and Damned." so if you could explain how you know that he didn't escape...
With the rest of your arguments I agree...
Back then, I always wondered what happened to Mr. Bulgarin.
I was very satisfied with TBOGT and I think it was played off very well. Even though I would of preferred better if Niko did him in because I felt as if Luis didn't belong in those circumstances. Niko and Mr. Bulgarin had a past, Luis barely knew the guy from a hole in the wall.
I agree with you. Though I think I liked the darker ending more, especially when Niko sais Welcome to America.
Killing Dwayne - Money
Killing Playboy X - Free safehouse
Niko killing Dwayne is the same as darko killing almost everyone from his village
props to that one guy with the bat. he was totally useless, but he stuck with Dwayne to the end lmao
He was mo loyal than me 😅
I remember accidentally clicking on killing him, and after I went to his apartment, I did it, couldn’t live with it so I restarted the whole game just to save him, felt like I ripped my soul apart mane
😂😂😂😂
You don't have to click on anything, you just go to one place or the other, what are you talking about?
@@alexsm3882 well you get to chose, so I chose the wrong one, simple to understand
@@CesarMartinez-gi9de sure but it isn't really something you "accidentally click on" is what I'm saying
@@alexsm3882 I don’t remember bruh, I don’t care anyway, point is I clicked the wrong one
I was too young when I played this game to appreciate the intricacies of this plot.
This is an interesting question. The game "wants" you to kill Playboy X, because it rewards you much more. But who is the most moral choice? The only decent justification would be self defense or if someone did something really really bad.
Neither one of them did something really bad to the other before the confrontation, although it's true that Playboy eventually stopped visiting Dwayne in prison.
Playboy is the first person to tell you to ice Dwayne, rather than the other way around, but Playboy gives a good reason - that Dwayne is trying to kill him first, because Dwayne is paranoid.
So the main question becomes how well do you believe Playboy that Dwayne was already trying to kill him?
There are reasons to think so. Niko tells Dwayne that Playboy has always been straight with him, so that suggests that Playboy was honest, but that is not necessarily so. Someone could tell you a lie, but say it in a straight way. Plus, Niko could be wrong that Playboy was truthful.
Also, it's true that Dwayne started getting paranoid. He was complaining alot about people after he left the slammer, so he could have realy been paranoid about Playboy too. Dwayne could have been acting on his paranoia and lashing out without reasoning things through, in a way not unlike Faustin attacking Petrovic's relative earlier in the game.
Plus, Dwayne already had gotten Niko to ice both Jayvon in order to settle an old account, the new managers at the strip club, and potentially also Cherise his old girlfriend, although it turned out he later said he didn't want her taken out. So there is a pattern of attacks that suggest Dwayne might have the mindset to take out Playboy.
Further, Playboy described his conversation with Dwayne. He said he tried to reason with Dwayne (offering him half his gang back out of Playboy's), but that Dwayne rejected it as not good enough. This suggests Dwayne would have been against Playboy in revenge.
There are also good reasons to doubt that Dwayne was already taking the initiative. Dwayne had very few friends after getting out of the slammer, but was close to Niko. So there would have been few people who Dwayne would have told to kill Playboy before he talked to Niko. To believe Playboy, you would have to believe that Dwayne went to at least 1 more person and asked them to take out Playboy, but that this person told Playboy about it instead. And there are not many people who Dwayne had to do that, and besides, Dwayne is portrayed as a careful distrusting person, so he would probably not say it to someone who would betray him like that.
Second of all, Playboy does not initially say directly that Dwayne was trying to kill him. Playboy rambles a bit in the conversation, and talks in an offhand, loose manner, and does not sound really trustworthy. Only later in the conversation does he pose as a hypothetical what to do to someone who is trying to kill you, and his manner of talking leaves the impression that he was making it up about Dwayne.
The most likely scenario therefore is that Playboy was just making up the claim that Dwayne was trying to kill him, but it would not be surprising if Dwayne really had been trying to.
What do you think?
I think at the very least you're putting too much stock in what X tells you, which for the most part sounds like bullshit. He didn't offer Dwayne shit if you ask me, he was ducking his calls after D got out.
Dwayne cant do anything to kill playboy anyway. There is only one guy that defends Dwayne and he only has baseball bat. Unless Dwayne goes kamizake but Dwayne's paranoia is justified due to 15 years in jail
it would be better if you could kill both because they are both criminal degenerates
This is more sad than Kate's death
Anyone who actually chose to kill Dwayne is a cold-hearted bastard aha
1:19 The Bullet hit the roof and imaginably shot him in the back of the head lol ,Rockstar Logic
XD
maybe it's some type of censorship? lol idk
No. It was the bullet casing. Have you seen metal casings come out of an automatic rifle at high speeds?
TX1997 i think it was because of the lag
recoil bro, RECOIL
I think killing Dwayne would make you (the player) just as bad as Darko
Playboy X is the cannon choice. No one would willingly kill Dwayne.
And even if you decide to kill Dwayne, you would save first before the decision and reload that save and then kill Playboy just to see both outcomes. Screw Playboy X.
Damn Dwayne didn’t even run or fight back.
I will be so happy if Rockstar brings back the realism of GTA IV in GTA VI. GTA IV was like one classic movie with a couple of Oscars that you see and remember while GTA V felt like one of these blockbuster that you see at the cinema while eating popcorns and forget after two days. Shout out to Michael though, only deep character in that game because no, being "crazy" because your father abandoned you and you have mother issues is not being deep, Trevor.
Nah trevor's mother abused him and when he was crying on the floor that hit me i really didn't care about niko lol niko only wants money lol
2025
notice how niko looks away. even niko knows you made the wrong choice
Interesting thing to note: Roman sounds displeased on the phone after killing Playboy X.
Roman is probably driven by money if he were to be tasked with killing someone that has money on the line, hence when you save Dwayne, Roman ends the conversation on the phone with "Eh good, speak soon" he sounds very disinterested and could care less for someone that has their lives saved but getting nothing in return.
*A selfish bastard of a cousin*
There should've been a choice between faustin and dimitri
Info maniac That would completely undermine the plot of the game.
I’m glad I didn’t kill dwayne, the way playboy tells you how he has beef with you even thoe he was the one that ordered the hit was SUCH BS. While dwayne was like cool and gave you his playboy penthouse. Fuck playboy
Even worse is that Dwayne doesn’t even put up a fight and just accepts his death😢😢😢😢 Niko can’t even look at him because he knows its the wrong decision🤦🏿🤦🏿🤦🏿🤦🏿
Depressing fact: if you choose to kill Playboy X(which is the better option) and get Dwayne above 80% friendship which unlocks his caller option for some backup, it doesn't count towards the 100% however it is strongly suggested he takes his own life as later on in the game, you are unable to call him as you always go to voice mail. You never see him again after.
He was always heavily and obviously depressed.
he kills himself?
No, it doesn't count because you able to kill him, same with Roman
@@fgkadgkdjg read it again properly.
@@zruss apparantly so, I thought my game bugged because he just never answers no matter the time but it happens to a lot of people to so its inplied that he does take his own life. Typically he likes to hang out at night and either get drunk or pool, he gets upset if he loses so I always let him win.
How long has it been since you last hung out with him in-game? If you go an extended amount of time (a while) without hanging out with friends, they will refuse to answer your calls. You have to wait for them to randomly call you, which they will still do after some time has passed. After accepting whatever activity they call for, they'll answer your calls again as normal. I had this happen before with Brucie.
I couldn’t get myself to kill Dwayne no matter how many times I played the game. Playboy X always gave me that backstabber vibe. Glad to see I was right all along
In my first playtrough, I killed Dwayne. I wasn't old enough to understand, so I just didn't cared, I picked Dwayne because Playboy would give me money for it and Dwayne probably will give me nothing. Then the phonecall after Dwayne's death, I really hated Playboy after that. I wanted to kill him too, but he disappeared.
Then, my 2nd playtrough, picked Playboy because I was curious and, damn, seeing Dwayne as your friend now and a very useful perk AND PLAYBOY'S PLACE AS YOURS, MAAAAAN I really hated myself for killing Dwayne the first time.
Even the game itself makes you know that was the incorrect choice.
I just can't kill Dwayne and go to sleep (save the game)
Playboy tells you to kill Dwayne
You kill Dwayne
Playboy - that wasn’t very cash money of you!
I killed Dwayne the first time and I got so mad that I made that mistake, couldn't I have atleast of gotten playboy x's respect? the second time I killed Playboy X and got Dwayne's respect and all atleast
Playboy: You took down Dwayne, Niko.
Niko: Yeah I did. *Just like you asked me to.*
Playboy: Oh. Uh… Yeah. You did what you had to do, Niko. I also paid you the money. Peace.
I was always amused at how both of them react pretty aggressive as Niko approaching their apartments, even knowing that he didn't kill the other one lol
Saw the yellow parking space in the first mission I did for PBX.
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Didn't even need to think ONCE when the choice came.
Dwayne doesn't deserve to die, he is a good person and is very sad and all he wants is someone to help him and be friends with him
Even Niko looked away. This part must've been heavy for him.
wow, even playboy x is telling you that you made the wrong decision
So many years ago when I played for the first time, I technically wasn’t really paying attention to the story between playboy x and Dwayne. So when I got to the part to kill one of them, my dumbass decided to go after Dwayne and after I was done with that, I was confused on why playboy x was mad when Niko killed Dwayne. After learning about their story, I decided to restart my game and instead go after playboy x, and whenever I play I still do
If you kill Dwayne, Playboy will offer you money. Nothing more
If you kill Playboy, Dwayne will not only offer friendship but an apartment and bodyguards
Friendship > Money
Bodyguards never helped me the only time i used it (Last mission)
I chose to kill Dwayne on my first ever play through. I remember immediately questioning whether I had made the right decision. And feeling like an absolute bag of trash for choosing that option. Even though it’s just a video game at the end of the day, you get so invested in the story and characters that you feel genuine satisfaction or remorse depending upon what action you take. I regretted killing Dwayne to the extent I switched the game off immediately after the mission ended.
Played through IV a few times since and always killed Playboy X every time, each time avenging the mistake I made the first time round.
I killed Playboy when I played this game for 2 reasons - 1) Playboy is a bitch and 2) I didn't have the heart to kill Dwayne. I felt bad for his situation and was actually glad that he and Niko become friends after this lol
Everyone shitting on Playboy, but nobody mentions that Dwayne asked the same thing of Niko.
im miss GTAIV it was much better Story
Is it just me or is Nico trembling before executing Dwayne? Man, that shows so much alone.. :/
The game even mocks you for killing Dwayne, seeing how easy it is compared to X's.
Bro I didn't payed too much about the story and picked Dwayne man I want to rip playboy of his skin
I give you a like to your courage for showing the dire consequence for killing Dwayne instead of Trey.
I can think of multiple reasons NOT to kill Dwayne. Tbh, Playboy X was one of my favorite characters in the game and the Dwayne character is rather dry, but he makes a great friend and useful ally. He'll actually back you up on just about any mission except for the final two storyline missions (Deal or Revenge Mission & Killing Pegorino/Dimitri in the final mission), and you get to keep Playboys Loft as a safehouse, but their is literally NO benefit to killing Dwayne and sparing Playboy X other than the $25K.
Plaboy: kill dwayne
Then: damn your a bad man stay away
I've never killed Dwayne, even when I kept replaying the game from the beginning. I think I would actually hate myself if I kill Dwayne. He's too much of a bro.
Yeah dude is literally depressed and in misery, killing him wouldn't put it out, it would just make his misery worse because he died thinking everyone is a snake and hates him
He was a Chad before our time.
I remember that my aunt killed Dwayne and I was so pissed.
You have a cool aunt if she plays GTA:IV
Lol
Man, this fucking Playboy guy... I wish he would respawn every time I open my game, so I could kill him again and again. God he pisses me off!