when i first watched the scene where tom kisses greg on the forehead i thought he was going for the lips and in that split second a genuine wave of horror and disgust washed through me .... i (a gay person) experienced, for the first time in my life, the sensation of being homophobic, and i can't say it wasnt a little bit exhilarating
No because whoever wrote the line " I'd castrate you and marry you in a heartbeat" absolutely knows what they're doing and I just personally need to give them a hug
What separates the Tom/Greg minion relationship from the Logan/Tom relationship is the bromance aspect. And with the on/off Shiv relationship, I love the idea of the three of them evetually being this little sort of family. (Remember that Shiv was who Greg backed in his first test (Shiv v. Roman, about bringing docs and a sweater to the hospital in early season 1.) The combination of "Ride or Die, unless I have to destroy you, but even then on some level we're still Ride or Die" just never gets old for me.
@@wildoesthings a really, REALLY dark sitcom. The interplay on: "It's a big book." "is it a good book?" "Yeah, it's a decent book." is Spinal Tap/ UK Office level amazing....ly awkward
It all clicked when I saw that Will Ferrel is an executive producer. It's mixing sitcom tropes with this very raw drama and when you take the pieces apart you can sorta see the influences.
I love these two in scenes together. It's like a totally dysfunctional, abusive business relationship and yet endearing friendship at times and hilarious all at the same time. Tom cracks me up and then in his scenes with Shiv you can totally see why he treats Greg the way he does because he feels powerless in his marriage.
I don’t think just saying Tom feels powerless in his marriage really covers it. Tom is ambitious and driven. He is wound up so tight. Does he even love Shiv? I doubt it; it’s way more likely he threw everything into seducing her to get closer to Logan and Waystar and billions of dollars. So he is constantly looking for any little edge he can get, and cutting anyone who gets in his way. And in that world, everyone around him is doing the same thing. It’s incredibly stressful and he’s seemingly on the edge of insanity at all times. But with Greg, Tom saw a bit of himself, but in a kind of hapless, nonthreatening form. He saw someone he could trust, in a way, and that’s not something he has with anyone else (including Shiv). So in this scene Tom feels like he’s losing control of the one relationship that he felt any degree of certainty about.
I think Tom loved Shiv, at least he did before the end of it all. I don't really understand the reading that he seduced Shiv to get to Waystar-Royco, a lot of his decisions and reactions wrt their relationship don't make any sense if you assume he's just being a complete cynic. Why would he be so hurt by Shiv saying she didn't love him? Why would he just come out and tell her, "I like money, I like nice things" if he wanted to dupe her? It just isn't a reading that fits his character. Him getting the CEO position at the end isn't supposed to be some great victory for him. The actual Successor, Lukas, just grabbed a random drone who wouldn't make a fuss, and Tom fit the bill. It was established earlier that none of the people doing the corporate work had any respect for him, so seeing them all line up to glaze him at the end rings completely hollow, as it was intended to. The reason he keeps Greg around isn't because he's particularly useful as a corporate asset, it's because he earnestly cares about him. That, and bullying Greg is good stress relief.
tom: pals? yes? would you kiss me 0.0 if i asked you to? if i told you to? tom (internally): i'm doing great. this is a completely normal way to speak to someone i just met.
the moment that changed everything for me was 2:31 - because i was FULLY expecting Tom to not have the napkin over his face and start to openly mock Greg for falling for it, but he did it too!
it's the most innocuous line but well, cool- i actually uhh i finally got paid yeah looks like theyre not paying the light bill here but um but i actually got paid and i was thinking about maybe going to have you ever visited the uh the california pizza kitchen it's pretty delicious, tom they make a cajun chicken linguine just how i like it that's pretty much my favorite piece of spoken word of the contemporary era
I don't know yet what it is either, but this scene melts my heart everytime. I feel more alive and at peace with my existence as a whole when I see his face saying these lines.
"But that's not how you're supposed to like it." followed by Tom taking Greg to eat a whole baby bird under a shame-towel really defines their whole relationship.
@@B3astMass Well he was asking if people were talking about him, then he tried to secure a job while Logan was in critical condition in the hospital and the family was worried. It comes across as rude and self-centered. Sure, the audience knows that Greg is broke and desperate, but Tom doesn't know that.
what is the heterosexual explanation for this. honestly. i understand the power dynamic helps us understand both tom and greg as characters but some of the sh*t they say? the blatant flirting? where is this headed if not towards some weird little romance?
@@johncouch587 tom's behavior towards greg goes quite a bit beyond friendly lol the guy is psychosexually obsessed. has nothing to do with porn, this is something readily apparent to most watchers of the show. you're the odd one out.
I've mentioned this before on other videos and subreddits - but Tom always calls Greg "Greg" (well, more like GGgggReeeegahhhh!") but Greg rarely calls Tom "Tom" and when he does it pisses Tom off.
I‘ve heard about this ship before I started watching the show (am in the midst of season 2 now) and I remember getting more curious as to what made people ship them during season 1 because I didn’t see the appeal back then (I do now!) so I just literally typed „Succession Tom and Greg“ into the google search bar and got *tons* of results of *actual serious journalists* writing analytical articles about them being the best „couple“ on the show and that they should have been canon. Honestly that‘s when you know it‘s a convincing ship lmao 💀 I think it‘ll take some time for me to finish the show but oh boy am I looking forward to more of this haha
@@NewYasmine-nl9jq The article wasn’t satire. That’s why I’ve said the journalist said that they “SHOULD HAVE BEEN canon” and not that they “ARE canon” :)
Tom is actually a really good person its just he understood that in corporate surroundings he has to be a cuthroat to get where he wants to get. He sees in Gregg the innosence and probably himself 15-20 years ago and he offers to take care of him because nobody every took care of him. Tom teases, bullies and bellitles Gregg but when push goes to shove, Tom always protected Gregg. When there was a possibility for Gregg to end up in prison Tom accepted to take all the blame. When Gregg's job was hanging in the balance, Tom kept him and probably gave him a nice sallary and his own Greggs. Tom actually did appreciate everything Gregg did for him and its the opposite of Shiv when it comes to recipriprocating what others are doing for him
Tom is my favourite character in Succession. Greg does not have as much screen time or development to be number 1, but their pseudo-friendship is one of the defining aspects of Succession. When Greg thanks Tom for not squealing when playing "find the sausage" and Tom says, "It's ok, Greg" and lays a tender hand on his arm is brilliantly funny and touching. Tom knows who he is: Obsequious, nasty and vindictive and a total a**eho^^ to all below him in society. But he knows this, doesn't hide it or try to change to suit others. The Roy children on the other hand "think" they know who they are but are deluded and this delusion causes all of their woes. President Connor, Kendall the messiah, Shiv the eco-lib- saviour and Roman the odd-ball all with Daddy issues and fighting for their Dad's approval. Fascinating character studies and anything from Jesse Armstrong is always top-notch (check out "Peep Show" and "The Thick of It" my US cousins).
I think, obviously, it’s more of a relationship that Tom likes having power over Greg vs actually being attracted to him. He likes being the dominating person in their relationship and any defiance makes him really upset. I don’t think this will ever go past these types of low key gay interactions and we shouldn’t be mad at that.
Tom: What do you know about Nero and Sporus? Me, watching this for the first time: Absolutely nothing, but I get the feeling this is about to be the gayest shit since the fall of the Roman empire 🍿🍿 Me, 30 Seconds Full Later: And.... I was right. 🙃
I wanted to watch succession and when I searched the characters tomgreg was everywhere and the first episode when Tom asked Greg if he could kiss him , I was thinking he was going to cheat on shiv with Greg eventually. The fact that I saw an article explain each couple and there was tomgreg before I watched it, so I was expecting a lot but I got over it after season 1.
A ‘business open relationship’ must’ve killed Tom
every time i see watch line i gaspppp
Especially at this point in the series Greg has been the most consistent thing since his relationship with shiv is very obviously broken at this time
I burst out laughing
that was the last straw for him
The absolutw worse thing he coulda said at that moment lol
when i first watched the scene where tom kisses greg on the forehead i thought he was going for the lips and in that split second a genuine wave of horror and disgust washed through me .... i (a gay person) experienced, for the first time in my life, the sensation of being homophobic, and i can't say it wasnt a little bit exhilarating
This is an amazing paragraph
Saw a screenshot of this comment on tumblr, you’ve hit a cultural nerve
@@sebdoesnothing6889 SEND POST?? that is so funny
Just saw this on tumblr today holy shit
@@kittenloverj please send me the post i feel obliged to reblog
No because whoever wrote the line " I'd castrate you and marry you in a heartbeat" absolutely knows what they're doing and I just personally need to give them a hug
It is ssssuch a sensational line and delivered masterfully by Matthew.
What separates the Tom/Greg minion relationship from the Logan/Tom relationship is the bromance aspect. And with the on/off Shiv relationship, I love the idea of the three of them evetually being this little sort of family. (Remember that Shiv was who Greg backed in his first test (Shiv v. Roman, about bringing docs and a sweater to the hospital in early season 1.)
The combination of "Ride or Die, unless I have to destroy you, but even then on some level we're still Ride or Die" just never gets old for me.
There’s a fine line between love and abducting someone and making them leave in your castle.
sporus and nero
"Can't make a Tommlete without breaking some Gregs" makes me lol
Possibly the best sentence ever.
That line alone made me start watching the show
@@Rose-hh7mk the One-liners in this show are full bore, they Go full Fucking Nut nut
this killed me
this is like a sitcom when u cut out all the other shit
no its. like. a sitcom the whole time. lmao
@@wildoesthings a really, REALLY dark sitcom. The interplay on:
"It's a big book."
"is it a good book?"
"Yeah, it's a decent book."
is Spinal Tap/ UK Office level amazing....ly awkward
YESSS UK OFFICE. i’ve never heard anyone compare it to that before
It all clicked when I saw that Will Ferrel is an executive producer. It's mixing sitcom tropes with this very raw drama and when you take the pieces apart you can sorta see the influences.
@@PlaylistGeneralAnd more importantly it's created by Jesse Armstrong who wrote peep show, among other things.
I love these two in scenes together. It's like a totally dysfunctional, abusive business relationship and yet endearing friendship at times and hilarious all at the same time. Tom cracks me up and then in his scenes with Shiv you can totally see why he treats Greg the way he does because he feels powerless in his marriage.
just @ me i resigned a long time ago and have attempted to get myself arrested just to expedite this mercy killing
I don’t think just saying Tom feels powerless in his marriage really covers it. Tom is ambitious and driven. He is wound up so tight. Does he even love Shiv? I doubt it; it’s way more likely he threw everything into seducing her to get closer to Logan and Waystar and billions of dollars.
So he is constantly looking for any little edge he can get, and cutting anyone who gets in his way. And in that world, everyone around him is doing the same thing. It’s incredibly stressful and he’s seemingly on the edge of insanity at all times.
But with Greg, Tom saw a bit of himself, but in a kind of hapless, nonthreatening form. He saw someone he could trust, in a way, and that’s not something he has with anyone else (including Shiv). So in this scene Tom feels like he’s losing control of the one relationship that he felt any degree of certainty about.
I think Tom loved Shiv, at least he did before the end of it all. I don't really understand the reading that he seduced Shiv to get to Waystar-Royco, a lot of his decisions and reactions wrt their relationship don't make any sense if you assume he's just being a complete cynic. Why would he be so hurt by Shiv saying she didn't love him? Why would he just come out and tell her, "I like money, I like nice things" if he wanted to dupe her? It just isn't a reading that fits his character.
Him getting the CEO position at the end isn't supposed to be some great victory for him. The actual Successor, Lukas, just grabbed a random drone who wouldn't make a fuss, and Tom fit the bill. It was established earlier that none of the people doing the corporate work had any respect for him, so seeing them all line up to glaze him at the end rings completely hollow, as it was intended to.
The reason he keeps Greg around isn't because he's particularly useful as a corporate asset, it's because he earnestly cares about him. That, and bullying Greg is good stress relief.
lost focus and had a consensual workplace relationship.
the random man in the scene where greg is “breaking up” with tom is so funny he must’ve felt so awkward
a "business open relationship" makes me howl with laughter. probably going to hell laughing at Tom's reaction
absolutely deranged. we stan.
Succession is a show where I thrive on the chaotic toxicity.
“it’s not like they pre-poop them” 😭😭😭
Never seen this show but the tumblr girlies won't stop talking about this ship
I'm back and I hate this show. I'm on season 2
we got another one boys
Same idk if I could handle it othern than Tom and Greg
@@brookesingleton1553 Personally I find this show hilarious. Roman Roy degeneracy supremacy tho
@@longbeachday I have to know. How did you find season 3
“I’d castrate you and marry you in a heartbeat ❤” one of the greatest and most romantic confessions of love that has ever existed
the Nero and Sporus speech is an all timer.
Cracks me up every time 😂
The marvelous acting of Matthew Macfadyen is making this show infinitely legendary!
tom: pals? yes? would you kiss me 0.0 if i asked you to? if i told you to?
tom (internally): i'm doing great. this is a completely normal way to speak to someone i just met.
he won at being normal that day 👍
the moment that changed everything for me was 2:31 - because i was FULLY expecting Tom to not have the napkin over his face and start to openly mock Greg for falling for it, but he did it too!
They have dumb and dumber dynamic
We support gay wrongs
i haven't watched succession but wow y'all are not lying. they are sooo ??????????????? together. wow. WOW.
have you watched it yet?
i love them and support them in their insanity
placing the hair behind the ear in 2:38 tells me all I need to know.😭
it's the most innocuous line but well, cool- i actually uhh i finally got paid yeah looks like theyre not paying the light bill here but um but i actually got paid and i was thinking about maybe going to have you ever visited the uh the california pizza kitchen it's pretty delicious, tom they make a cajun chicken linguine just how i like it that's pretty much my favorite piece of spoken word of the contemporary era
he’s so scrunkly
I don't know yet what it is either, but this scene melts my heart everytime. I feel more alive and at peace with my existence as a whole when I see his face saying these lines.
"But that's not how you're supposed to like it." followed by Tom taking Greg to eat a whole baby bird under a shame-towel really defines their whole relationship.
S3 was huge for Tomgreg
there is something seriously wrong with these two. i want to watch more immediately
pretty good show
Long live the Disgusting Brothers!
Hey, where's "red sequoia/bullet train/prove it"?!
ikr! but tbf that was a nick ad lib lol
7:36 I JUIST LOST MY SHIT LAUGHING WHEN THE CAT PICTURE CAME UP I DID NOT EXPECTT HAT-
“It’s just a mental barrier”😂
insanity. insanity in this chillis tonight
You truly cannot make a tomlett without a gregg
You gotta break a few greggs to make a tomlette
Tom literally just stole his entire personality from Regina George from Mean Girls.
this video goes out to all of you tomgreg deniers
The true power couple
The incident in the hospital was
the only time Greg really deserved that verbal abuse.
How’d you mean?
@@B3astMass Well he was asking if people were talking about him, then he tried to secure a job while Logan was in critical condition in the hospital and the family was worried. It comes across as rude and self-centered. Sure, the audience knows that Greg is broke and desperate, but Tom doesn't know that.
"we're good?.. We're GOUHD?!?!!!!"
The way this is edited has me biting my cheek to not cackle and wake my entire household.
“A business open relationship”
these dudes deserve a spinoff.. it would totally top succession.
I am fully convinced that within the first 2 episodes of a hypothetical season 5 they fucked
We need a spin-off of Greg and Tom
i literally cant believe they fucking won
This show is really quite an endearing display when these two are on screen
Man my Gaydar is so broken. It never even crossed my mind as a possibility until watching this. Lol the Nero bit I totally forgot about.
what is the heterosexual explanation for this. honestly. i understand the power dynamic helps us understand both tom and greg as characters but some of the sh*t they say? the blatant flirting? where is this headed if not towards some weird little romance?
Its just guys being dudes
genuinely i'm so curious to see what will happen in the last season like there is no feasible way to have them end up as just friends so like ?????
Are men not allowed to be friendly and affectionate to one another? Does that always have to be gay to your porn addicted brain?
@@johncouch587 no they’re not allowed men exist to fuck men
@@johncouch587 tom's behavior towards greg goes quite a bit beyond friendly lol the guy is psychosexually obsessed. has nothing to do with porn, this is something readily apparent to most watchers of the show. you're the odd one out.
Tom heard "business open relationship" and just want crazy.
This was easily one of the most hilarious duos ever. They were my favorite part of the show.
im literally going insane why are they like this
Possibly one of the best mashups ever done. Your opinion is V A L I D.
cringe; the tom has fallen in love with the greg ://
he’s not the only one :(
The writing on this show... A C E S
Gay, gay, homosexual, gay
i love tomgreg what the hell is wrong with them
The final scene of those two on the final episode made the entire downfall of everyone else worth it. I love those two so much.
Ngl this is the gayist thing I've watched since birdcage
YES I've thought this. Succession tom and greg leave waystar and open a gay bar in florida
@@bironicus They end up killing eachother. Love wins
i have never seen succession this video is honestly frightening
They may be my two most favorite television characters ever lol. Tom's voice immediately makes me crack uo 😂
I've heard people say that they wish there was a continuation of Succession so we could see Tom as a parent, and I tell them we've already seen it.
good for them
If I can’t find somebody that looks at me the way Tom looks at Greg at 2:21 I don’t want any of it 😂
I've mentioned this before on other videos and subreddits - but Tom always calls Greg "Greg" (well, more like GGgggReeeegahhhh!") but Greg rarely calls Tom "Tom" and when he does it pisses Tom off.
I‘ve heard about this ship before I started watching the show (am in the midst of season 2 now) and I remember getting more curious as to what made people ship them during season 1 because I didn’t see the appeal back then (I do now!) so I just literally typed „Succession Tom and Greg“ into the google search bar and got *tons* of results of *actual serious journalists* writing analytical articles about them being the best „couple“ on the show and that they should have been canon.
Honestly that‘s when you know it‘s a convincing ship lmao 💀
I think it‘ll take some time for me to finish the show but oh boy am I looking forward to more of this haha
Upon finishing it I was genuinely surprised they never had a thing even once. Like the sexual tension between those two is INSANE
That article was probably satire. They aren't a thing.
@@NewYasmine-nl9jq The article wasn’t satire. That’s why I’ve said the journalist said that they “SHOULD HAVE BEEN canon” and not that they “ARE canon” :)
@@lara3540 Oh I see what you mean now, got ya
lowkey this dynamic is literally me and my male friend who possibly has a crush on me
wait but who's who
@@vlad5042 for me im kinda like greg in early seasons and my friend is like tom and we’re both succession fans
Are you guys married now?
@@rodneypole7477 😂
Tom is actually a really good person its just he understood that in corporate surroundings he has to be a cuthroat to get where he wants to get.
He sees in Gregg the innosence and probably himself 15-20 years ago and he offers to take care of him because nobody every took care of him.
Tom teases, bullies and bellitles Gregg but when push goes to shove, Tom always protected Gregg.
When there was a possibility for Gregg to end up in prison Tom accepted to take all the blame.
When Gregg's job was hanging in the balance, Tom kept him and probably gave him a nice sallary and his own Greggs.
Tom actually did appreciate everything Gregg did for him and its the opposite of Shiv when it comes to recipriprocating what others are doing for him
Tom is absolutely not a good person but he's a deeply loving person.
@@KD-ou2np Actually he is a good person. Never said he wasnt.
@@robotube7361 Human furniture?
@robotube7361 yeah. I said he wasn't. Tom is not a good person.
These both are so amazing in this role
Tom is my favourite character in Succession. Greg does not have as much screen time or development to be number 1, but their pseudo-friendship is one of the defining aspects of Succession. When Greg thanks Tom for not squealing when playing "find the sausage" and Tom says, "It's ok, Greg" and lays a tender hand on his arm is brilliantly funny and touching. Tom knows who he is: Obsequious, nasty and vindictive and a total a**eho^^ to all below him in society. But he knows this, doesn't hide it or try to change to suit others. The Roy children on the other hand "think" they know who they are but are deluded and this delusion causes all of their woes. President Connor, Kendall the messiah, Shiv the eco-lib- saviour and Roman the odd-ball all with Daddy issues and fighting for their Dad's approval. Fascinating character studies and anything from Jesse Armstrong is always top-notch (check out "Peep Show" and "The Thick of It" my US cousins).
Be who you are!!
I think, obviously, it’s more of a relationship that Tom likes having power over Greg vs actually being attracted to him. He likes being the dominating person in their relationship and any defiance makes him really upset. I don’t think this will ever go past these types of low key gay interactions and we shouldn’t be mad at that.
true but “low key”?
i've watched this video so many times that when I type in yout it autofills, thus making me watch it more. thank you.
ok. ok. I see it now. It's all coming together.
Cant believe this is the same dude that plays Mr.Darcy
tom is my favourite horrible gay person. my meow meow :3
S-TIER CAPTIONING
gay. GAY
Just realized why i like tom/greg so much. Its just louis and lestat but a different font.
I'm reeling you're so right
Greg has always been Tom's Shiv whipping boy.
Tom coining "Cousin Greg," which is what the fandom would forever call him by, is just perfect.
are they.. you know 💅
5:38 is like the ending of "There Will be Blood" when Daniel Plainview throws the bowling pins at Eli Sunday
Ya can't make a Tomlette without breaking some Greggs! 😅😂
and now hes won his second emmy
Their dynamic is really sick
rewatching this and the 👈 the tom has fallen in love with the his wife's cousin! got to me so bad i luaghed and chortled and now my tummy hurts :(
This was the most fun relationship to watch, so crazy!
Tom: What do you know about Nero and Sporus?
Me, watching this for the first time: Absolutely nothing, but I get the feeling this is about to be the gayest shit since the fall of the Roman empire 🍿🍿
Me, 30 Seconds Full Later: And.... I was right. 🙃
✨boy best friends✨
To make a tomlette you gotta break a couple greggs
7:31 no words have been uttered better in fiction
Matthew is a great actor , I can believe that Tom was Mr Darcy , OMG he's a very good actor ❤
Can you make one of all tomgreg moments from the whole show? I’m curious to see the show through that lens now that it’s over lol
“I just popped round to say.”
Tom is so attracted to Greg because he's the only man taller than him.
I wanted to watch succession and when I searched the characters tomgreg was everywhere and the first episode when Tom asked Greg if he could kiss him , I was thinking he was going to cheat on shiv with Greg eventually. The fact that I saw an article explain each couple and there was tomgreg before I watched it, so I was expecting a lot but I got over it after season 1.
Thank you for your service
I’m midway through season 3 right now. I really hope Tom leaves Shiv for Gregg
I will not let go of what is mine😂😂
Attack dog, the Gregweiler
I love Mr.Darcy!! Should I watch this show?
If you want to see Mr. Darcy being a deranged terrible batshit insane little weirdo
no...as a wise person once said this is for your own good
5:50 i need that gif
He did take care of Greg in the end.
The first episode is Tom showing Greg the ropes of dynamics of the family.
I have watched all the seasons, but when watching this, I doubt everything