The dangers of a bad trainer cannot be overstated. Joined a crossfit gym in my early 40s. In less than a week, they tried to get me to do handstand push-ups, kipping pull-ups and box jumps. This was when I didn't know what a push-up or squat looks like. Got injured way too often. Crossfit came across as a sport for the fit to demonstrate their fitness, not a tool for the average person to get fitter.
That’s horrible man. The CrossFit box I used to go to regularly wouldn’t even allow beginners to do that type of stuff at first. You had to go through basic movement classes and progress like any other sport. We even took trips to olympic gyms to work specifically on olympic lifts by professionals. Safety was always a top concern, as well as flexibility and strength. I feel so bad that you experienced such a piss poor example of CrossFit. It can be a ton of fun and the community in many places are like friends and family.
yeah this is where bad trainers/good trainers really make/break the sport. My coaches have all been the opposite, when I first started they were soooooo careful with me, what weights I was using and encouraged me to modify a lot until I felt comfortable with the basics, moving/fitness etc.
It is also your responsibility to let trainers know about your fitness level and ask for alternatives. But you are right good trainers should offer alternative movements
Agree with everyone here. I opted out of cross fit, researched and moved to a traditional weight lifting program. Along the way, discovered I enjoy kettlebell training as well. So, some good came out of a crossfit program after all!
I think the crossfit game also hurt crossfit. The ridiculousness of some of the event and the blatant ped use that they lie about. Some of the athlete come off as asshole throwing shade at steroids user while they secretly use them in the background. You can lie about drug use in mainstream sport but it never a good idea when your sport is lifting weights.
@@AscendedZenith And literally made to ensure sub-optimal performance at any/every given endeavor besides crossfit. The conflation of philosophy, methodology, and sport is the worst part. Pretty much nihilism masquerading training methodology and/or sport.
My only experience was being out of town and entering a crossfit and said "Oh, I'm on a month long trip and I'm just looking for a gym for a few weeks" and the guy was like "this isn't a gym, this is crossfit" and I immediately knew I was in the wrong place.
I always do strict pullups while the others in the class working on kipping. My crossfit intstructor said strict slow vertical pullups are much better than kipping so instead of 30 kips, I scale and do 15 strict pullups. It's all about choosing the substitue workout that crossfit offers. Dumbells are better than barbells if you do not have the proper form.
What is a regular pullup? There is absolutely no such thing as a strict pull-up just like there is no such thing a perfect push-up.. you are going to move your body in so sort of way that isn’t perfectly straight for a push-up or perfectly still for a strict pull-up.. crossfitters can do “strict” pull-ups just as well as most other people who workout.. when I see people talking about a real pull-ups and I see there body slightly sway back and forth as they go up and come down I roll my eyes cause that’s just a small Kip or a small floppy fish movement as people call CrossFit pull-ups..
When i was a gym manager at a predominantly powerlifting gym, we held a workshop for trainers in the area just to give tips and trick for the big three lifts (squat, bench, deads) because that is a powerlifters skillset. Around our area we had two CrossFit gyms and we had a bunch of CrossFit coaches attend the workshop, and let me just say it was shocking/concerning that most of them lacked the proper skills to perform the three most common compound movements safely and soundly. More so was the concern that many of these individuals were regularly teaching others on how to lift, while lacking the proper technique themselves.
Well if they were amazing at those movements, they wouldn’t be attending your workshops, would they? Isn’t it commendable that they perhaps saw their shortcomings and wanted to learn? I’m sure that compared to a crossfit coach, a powerlifting coach would have a higher level of criticism and standard to achieve the perfect movement and lift.
@@iggi3985 I think what Cal is saying is that it's surprising, not to mention dangerous, that these crossfit coaches had been teaching bad lifting already. The concern is how?...why didn't they understand form on 3 foundational exercises? How did they make it to "coach" level in their gyms? How common is this? It's great that they were there learning at the workshop. Hopefully, they broke the cycle of bad coaching.
@@iggi3985 The point Cal is trying to make is that they shouldn't have been coaches in the first place. Go learn proper technique FIRST, then go out there and train others. As a coach you take on the responsibility to help others, not injure them.
@@ivanmadethis No two coaches are the same. A crossfit coach can exhibit understanding of the movements and display perfect form them when needed upon gaining their certificate. Unfortunately, some become complicit in their personal growth and upkeep and hence injuries occur. My point is, that this is not unique to crossfit coaches. Every fitness and sports industry has this.
I work out 5 times a week for the past 10 years. Tried cross for a week and saw how unsafe, and unnecessarily self destructive to your body it was. My sister got into CrossFit 4 years ago and is addicted. Her body looks great but at what cost? She suffers from physical issues as a result and recently had surgery on her shoulder. You can get the same results by sticking to a safe gym regimen without sacrificing your body.
Couldn't you say the same thing about people that play any sport and i'm not even excluding curling here. I could make a compilation of morons similar to the one in this video for crossfit doing any physical activity.
This is mean, but I fel like they deserve it.. Crossfit is what happens when a bunch of bored, never-before-athlete nerds, get together to try and be badass - and then think theyre badass. And then ultimately became snobs lol. Fuck em
CrossFit is safe , people make it on safe by trying to lift heavy when they obviously ain’t ready for that way. Same with people who go to regular gym and try lifting heavy ass fuck on leg press or deadlift plus all the steroids they be taking
I was very curious about this. Recently I sent a video of myself doing handstand push-ups very slowly to my friends because I just managed to do it after many years... and one of them, crossfiter, told me that the best way to achieve it is to kick up and cheat it by doing it fast... I told him: that's how you get a broken cranium or neck and he told me that's the way they do it in crossfit. Thing is I managed to do handstand push-ups because I started slowly with regular ones and then more difficult versions, dominating the form correctly, with much care.
I was told that doing slow and controlled movements is useless, since in my life I will never be doing a slow pull-up. Thing is, I'm a rock climber. I will do slow pull-ups when I've got a suboptimal grip. I will also do archer pull-ups. Also - needless to say - the whole mentality of "you won't be doing that" is like saying "You will never calculate the gravitational pull of an object, physics is useless". Maybe I won't, but that doesn't mean it will be a useless piece of knowledge. I train my muscles to be able to work efficiently. I can achieve that with pull-ups.
I think there are 2 main factors: 1. Experienced lifters see these people running several miles then attempting max lifts. Everyone knows this is a bad idea - including the participants and organizers. 2. Crossfit spreads a mentality very quickly - even to the newcomers - that if you've done 3 crossfit classes a week for 6 weeks in a row you are now somehow more physically fit and have a higher expertise on lifting techniques than someone with years of dedicated experience doing 6 days of weights and 3 days of cardio every week. I have seen crossfitters approach my friend Dan on the platform and critique his snatch technique even though he was a full ride weightlifter at LSU, and is now the strength and conditioning coach for a local college football team.
Ah yeah, who doesn't like to get unsolicited advice from a random 40yo dad in a pair of shiny nanos just to see him later with his back rounded while trying to deadlift 220 lmao
Tbf, anyone's form is liable to get sloppy on a bad day. But you're right that his credentials grossly outweigh any likelihood of him needing that advice, particularly from a (newbie?) Crossfit guy as their focus seems to be on HIIT rather than top form.
Yup, can spot the crossfitters a mile off, they have the worst form, focus everything on speed, and take up every piece of equipment in the gym for their 'circuits'
@@Phlegm_Thrower Trust me, deciding whether a gym is good or not is obvious. The coaches will push you but they won't make you do anything outside your comfort zone. Any good couch wouldn't let you touch a bar until you had the form down
Met a guy on a dating app once that was into crossfit. Said he wanted a partner that was into crossfit and it was a deal breaker if she did anything other than crossfit. We didn't get past that point as my knees are already bad.
In 2011 I was working at a café. A guy came in with a CrossFit T, I asked him what CrossFit is and he replied, "we train in a way that allows us to take any sport and almost beat any professional." ...I was a wrestler in college. I knew then CrossFit was a joke.
you were a wrestler? sickkkk dude congratulations, way to take the most random chance occurrence and probably satirical comment and make it about you! way to go!
I considered crossfit until I moved close to a crossfit gym 4 years ago. I'd regularly see people outside, rain or shine, working out and suddenly stop, puke on the side of the road, and then go back and keep working out. That mentality was a big NOPE for me.
you will see people puking also in fighting sports gyms all over the world. its hard to breath with teeth protector. i saw hundreds of people vomiting after their first sparring session. . but fighter are not animals. we puke in toilet like civilized people. btw i did several spartan race and saw people puking and running at the same time. they didnt even stop to puke, because it would cost time :D
@@martinjesko3256 yeah but vomiting after your first sparring session is because you don't know how hard it will be, ahead of time. After a couple weeks you gain some cardio and learn not to overexert yourself. It's not the goal!
I used to do Crossfit in high school. I always liked that we worked out in groups, but I always thought it was weird that everyone was obsessed with the amount of time you completed the workout. Sacrificing form for speed seemed so stupid to me so I always took far longer than everyone in the group. Despite them giving advice about kipping and the like. I could kinda tell even as a teen that this was probably dangerous so that along with the membership price is what made me leave
LOL I hate working out in groups since I always compare myself to everyone else. Not sure why anyone would think finishing a set fast is more important than proper form. It's like saying I won a driving race but knocked over 3 lampoles and killed 2 people along the way.
@@mattm7798 There's a reason why slow movements like Tai Chi are better than fast ones like Kung Fu. They build strength and train proper form far better than fast movements do. One of my old bosses used to teach Tai Chi and he was asked to teach a bunch of martial arts students, and they all got super shaky and tired trying to do everything slowly lol.
And many people sacrifice form for flexing more weight at Globo Gym as well... What do you think the % of members at your average chain gym have studied proper form, technique, warmup, cooldown and recovery periods? Less than 5% maybe? I mean, I get how doing Crossfit, completely uneducated or practiced at the movements, is dangerous, but there's plenty of injuries in every other aspect of personal fitness as well. This tunnel-vision hatred is just beyond me. I think it more boils down to fitness elitist/purists who can't stand something taking attention away from their preferred "style", along with beef-jockeys who thought they were Adonis-like specimens of fitness, and tried Crossfit, but sucked at it.
@@chrisvanderwielen1530 I think CrossFit has a lot of good things going for it. The communal aspect, hybrid training (lifting heavy AND training the aerobic system) but the competitive sport is fundamentally flawed. The primary performance metric is time. Combining the time with weighted movements incentivizes risky behavior. That is why the injury rates are notably higher than any other barbell sport. It also has the problem of being intentionally unspecialized. It’s literally competitive exercise. The best competitors are the ones with the highest general work capacity. The only way to be a better competitive exerciser is exercise more. To keep up with the competition athletes over exercise and/or take copious amounts of PEDs, both of which are dangerous.
I could care less about the time. I always finished last but always pay attention to form. I just tell myself bullshit on the time competition and focus on the proper breathing or proper form/extension and finish whenever the hell I finish. I'm paying monthly fees and I'm going to finish when I'm going to finish. The rest of the classmates can go fly a kite while they wait for me. So far it's worked out for me. I've seem to rub off on others. They would sit there regretting they whipped through the WOD only to see me take it slower and make sure I'm not cutting any corners. Now more people don't care about the time cap and just finish wherever they land at their speed.
Ive finally found this video again. This video literally saved my life lol I was out of shape after the lockdown and went to crossfit for the first time because i needed to stay active. Your video showed up on youtube and i watched it but i still thought it wouldnt do any harm going to crossfit a few more times. I went to the crossfit gym a second time and felt a little more intense pain than usual, which back then i thought was natural, after all getting fitter hurts right? And I did put in the effort. But when i saw my urine as dark as coke in the toilet, i remembered this video and went to the ER on the same day. I explained to the doctors about my concern that it could be rhabdomyolysis. They tried to assure me it was rare so it was probably something else, but they still ran the tests. I was admitted and stayed at the hospital for a week until my protein levels in my blood were back to normal. I peed more in that week than i would normally pee in a month lol it was awful but at least my kidneys didnt fail. Thanks!
@@flrn84791 Crap personal trainer teaches client bad form and the client gets injured: trainer's fault Crap Crossfit trainer pushes you too hard to do something stupid: your fault
Some 10 years ago I entered a crossfit gym, as the gym was having a introductory session which was mandatory for all new students costing about 400 dollars for 3 sessions. Then I saw the so called session teaching safe movements of how to do Pullups, followed by worst Deadlift form I ever saw in my life. I walked out telling the sales person I know better and quicker ways of becoming disabled for life, since that day I have never taken these clowns seriously. Crossfit, no thanks.
@@AnnSisuLiv Similar experience here... First time with Crossfit, I had a horrible coach, and hated it... Second time, great coach, who emphasized on good form before performance, and told people who were lifting out of balance to use smaller weights, and control their movement... No one ever got hurt in the class, and people did improve and get in shape... While it's not the only way to train, a good coach will take you a long way...
@@AnnSisuLiv same here. The coach I work with was an olympic lifter before she did crossfit. Form and safety are her priorities. It's amazing and I love it.
You hit the mark 100%: the problem with crossfit is the extreme quality variability based on how well run is the gym you go to. I've been doing it since 2018 and I've never seen serious injuries and the priority list has always been form first, speed second, load third. BUT, I live in Italy, so probably the environment is quite different than the US. Anyway, great video!
Same experience here in the U.S. Never seen anyone hurt or hurt myself through CrossFit. Hopefully the new management in CrossFit actually does something to solve the issue of some places having poor coaches instead of crossfits involvement being limited to accepting a fee from a box just to slap “crossfit” up there
No that's not what the quality variability means. Does you coach or trainer teach you progressive overload, periodization, training blocks, deloading, etc? Because if he is that's not CrossFit. That's just normal crosstraining
@@edwardelric717 nope. What I mean is that in some places you'll find coaches that, as a beginner, guide you towards increasing over time, starting with proper scaled movements and loads, focusing on learning the correct techniques first, while in other places you'll get thrown into the mix and pushed to load more than you should with little regards (or not enough attention) to the proper technique, which is obviously not only dangerous but also counterproductive.
Same here in Spain. I have been doing Crossfit for almost a year now and I have never seen anything that resembles the dumb shit shown in this video. I guess that depends on the quality of the gym you go to but I feel like even though this video can make some sense it is quite missinformative, it is terribly biased towards one side of the spectrum (the bad one) and just giving half truths in order to scare people away.
I'm a legitimate certified personal trainer. Many of my clients asked me about crossfit and I told them one single thing: "The concept is great for anyone with 3-4 years MINIMUM of proper lifting experience and are knowledgable about both their limits and appropriate form to stay safe. For anyone else, you're just going there to get a ride to the hospital." And after hearing the "founder"s words in this video? He should be held accountable for each and every injury sustained from anyone practicing crossfit. That man clearly didn't understand fitness in the gym, or the fact that there are training modalities that are SAFE while still maintaining the HIIT style that he tries to promote. The man is an egomaniac with a lust for money. AKA. It is a cult. Regardless of the trainer.
Thank you for this comment. I was getting mixed reviews on whether or not crossfit would help with my strength. But I'll just stick to training my way at the gym.
I am also a "Legit" Strength Coach and Fitness Trainer and Natural Bodybuilder 20+ years. Crossfit is dangerous and pointless... An accident waiting to happen basically. Everyone that I know personally that has tried it, has gotten injuries at some point. Mostly shoulder problems ~
My crossfit gym gives scaled versions of workouts. No one expects you to do a muscle up 3 months in. If you can’t do a pull up then do banded pull ups or trx rows. People use shitty crossfit gymd and shitty coaches to generalize the whole thing. My girlfriend has been going for 6 months and she had never been pushed to do a lift or motion beyond her comfort zone.
They tried to recruit me some years back, I had just lost like 50 pounds (not doing CrossFit) dudes was waaaay too into it, and the “community” of it all. I was like nah fam, when it’s time to get in shape, I don’t need no friends, I need self-discipline in eating first, and a regular workout routine.
I had a CrossFit guy go through a back workout with me once. I told him we were starting with 4 sets of 10 pull-ups, and he said, “that’s easy…” He started doing a bunch of swing-ups, and I was like, “bro, I said we are doing PULL-UPS!” 🤷♂️ When done correctly he couldn’t even do 5 pull-ups…🤦♂️
It depends on how specific they were with strict pull ups. Strict pull ups appear extremely rarely in competition. They’re harder to judge. Kipping isn’t forced. My first year and a half I refused to do Kipping. All I did was strict everything. I got tendinitis from all the pull up volume. Elbows are much happier now with some Kipping thrown in, and I can still do 20 strict pull ups.
@@CamberFitness It’s a Kipping pull up. But in competitions or class programming. It just says pull up because there are multiple ways of getting your chin over the bar. Kipping, butterfly, strict. It’s just to get reps done faster and keep you moving more consistently. Strict pull ups have a higher muscular fatigue cost. So the volume you can do is much more limited. I wouldn’t expect someone to do muscle ups. Just because they can do pull ups. It’s a different skill. Kipping is pretty easy when you can do strict. Butterfly requires a lot more rhythm and timing.
The thing about cross-fit dismissing traditional workouts with lines like "do you ever see someone do this motion at a job site?" is that these exercises are designed to isolate muscle groups. Its not that you'll do that exact motion, but that you're targeting specific groups you will use during other motions. Ones that might not get a lot of strength build up without isolation. If your goal is to build strength you don't want to shortcut a workout. The thing about the guy winning Ninja Warrior and how cross-fit helped him - is that Ninja Warrior only asks you get to the other side of the obstacle. If all you need to do is get your chin over the bar, then cross-fit has the right strategy, but if you're actually wanting to get stronger you're shooting yourself in the foot by doing butterfly pullups.
It's not true. Like the bicyclists probably have the strongest legs in the world. And they don't do that much lifting. I am not into CrossFit, but I use the same approach. Pure weight lifting & cardio, what people do at the gyms is awful. 1st. Those "CrossFit" exercises builds your stamina like nothing else. No breaks between exercises give you enormous stamina & cardio, & without stamina you can't build strength. * You also get stronger way quicker. 2nd. More functional exercises help you to develop the core muscles. Core muscles give you the strength. * The real issue is the gym trainers. They are just awful. I actually had a gym trainer a while ago, and I just wasted money & have learned nothing. Actually I was more in danger just listening to him. Body weight exercises are the safest. And healthiest. People going for heavy weights is dangerous & totally unnecessary. * Actually I think it slows down the progress, b/c lack of stamina & core muscles. When you have stamina & core, you can easily start isolating the specific muscles without risking any trauma.
@@bestdjaf7499 as i see it, being strong doesn't really count for that much. Looking good is more important in the modern world, and traditional weight lifting is obviously superior for body building. Stamina has more use than strength, but even still you can build that up via cardio, that way you could have a passable level of stamina as well as an optimized physique.
@@dylanpennington1378 It depends on the cardio exercises. I was running at the gym & have never achieved any real stamina. So I just stopped running & dropped all the conventional cardio exercises. So now I am more into "muscle fatigue". It's the same cardio, if you remove the rest between the reps. So I do bench press & pull-ups at the same time. Your heat rate stays up, & stamina goes over the roof. Also I spend only 30 min to finish a workout, with all the benefits of strength training & cardio. * Also my workout kind of organizes me. Obviously I don't do it all the times. Some days I am creating a new program for myself. Other days I just want to try a new exercise.... But most people are just wondering around the gym & have to dedicate some days to cardio.... It's just doesn't work like that & takes way longer to get in shape.
@@joatanpereira4272 came here just to say that, this guy is delusional. Weightlifting is the base for every sport (with each sport target specific muscle groups more intensely), even race drivers do it so they can handle the g forces (especially on the neck) and force feedback of the wheel.
In 2012 I was on Utah's all state rugby team. After one of the practices the owner of the first cross for gym in Utah gave us a challenge to come try their circuit. He said none of us could crack the top 10 times because we don't train for actually useful motion. A group of us went. I forget the number but 4 or 5 of us got a top 10 score with one of us beating the record first try. We were told our times would be put on the board if we sign up for the gym. 🤣 Nah we are good.
In fact there was already a form of training that was meant to make you strong and agile to "survive out there", it was called the natural method, was created by a french marine and ep teacher, the father of David Belle. David Belle created later the parkour following the principels of his father's training under the phrase of "etre fort per etre utile" which means to be strong to be useful. I find parkour a very rewarding sport in every aspect of physical condition when it is trained for real and not used to get views with sketchy stuff that could kill you
Natural method was invented by a man named Georges Hebert. It was the training method of the french army & emergency services up to ww2 where it fell off. It led to alot of modern military training methods like obstacle courses. Raymond Belle was a child in French occupied Vietnam before being returned to France before the Vietnam war. He was a legend among Paris firefighters for climbing buildings without equipment. His son David idolized him & trained his friends to try & emulate him, creating Parkour with a few other inspirations. I agree with you though. I'd rather do Natural Method than Crossfit
My cousin got into this. When I saw all the fb posts looking for validation and then listened to her talk incessantly about how it was the ONLY way to work-out, I realized how controlling and physically sloppy crossfit is.
@yearn it’s like you didn’t even look at the title of the video? The people watching this don’t like CrossFit apparently no one does. Everyone doesn’t hate powerlifting or gold or fishing no one would give a shit if she posted “socially accepted” hobbies. That’s the whole point of the comment and video homie. Conformity
The Intermittent Fasters have become just as annoying, apparently in both Crossfit Club and Fasting Club the first two rules are "you must brag about it all the damn time."
One of my colleagues was exactly like that. She was a very nice girl before, but after crossfit everyone in our work started silencing her in social media and avoiding her on real life. It was exhausting listening her talk about crossfit as if it was a religion.
One of my buddies does crossfit every morning at 4am and he is absolutely shredded. The difference is he went in already knowing proper form for every exercise, and doesn't get involved with the group think mentally by simply going to the gym earlier. Mad respect for people like him
I was really into running and eventually triathlons and for many years we had this great community of runners. We would show up for runs and talk about each other's families, or food, the latest hot tv show, classes we were taking etc and would keep a pace you could talk at most days. Then around 2012 crossfit got popular around here and they started coming to group runs and all they talked about was crossfit. For us run club was a hobby that helped us stay fit, and if you were a pro or trying to be pro you could join A group, which was led by a former pro cyclist, but it never became anyone's personality. Crossfit seemed to attract those type of people who make their whole personality around something. It seriously ruined the whole community for most of us. Our training runs were never competitive, we saved that for the races, but crossfitters made even our fun runs into this competitive atmosphere. We always took the push the bar up approach to training (training below your limit, then every once in a while you push hard and push your limit bar up much like cycling ftp) but crossfit seemed to have this mentallity that every workout was go as hard as you can to win. I could keep going with examples of why we weren't fans of the crossfit crowd, but to really sum it up, every race I went to the finish was littered with guys coming up to the girls and starting the conversation off with, "I do crossfit".
I did crossfire for about 6 months about two years ago, and for the first three months it was great and interesting but eventually my form began to slide to keep up with rep times and I strained my lower back through lack of form. It wasn't anything too serious but I saw I was sacrificing too much for this program and went back to more traditional programs and just incorporating a few cross fit elements here and there which I like a lot more.
But that is the exact issue. People want to go beyond there own capability. I do crossfit and I do not care to pick a lower weight than RX just to keep myself safe from really bad form. More people should do it. Yes crossfit is challenging yourself but not at all cost.
"we're doing this shit so we can go outside and survive better" You live in the modern world in a developed country. Looking both ways before you cross the road and putting on your seatbelt are the fundamentals. Getting at least 30 minutes of cardio plus eating about two to three cups of veggies a day can also help you survive.
also, no one in the developing world is doing this. because even in their lives they don't have to. neither were these people's ancestors. this is all modern mayhem
The grizzly bear guy kills me. Like dude, if there's any kind of training to fend off a fucking half a ton feral animal there's no need for convincing people to go and pay 90 bucks a month for it.
@@MrAndresS1994 Honestly, if we really wanna come up with training to fight big cats and bears, we’re gonna need to make robots to safely train that with progressive overload 🤣 but then fuckin rabies is unfair 🤦🏻♂️
@@MrAndresS1994 That was a parody, but the original point stands. Unless you're training for competitive sport, it's all just for general health. You don't need to do squats to walk up a couple flights of stairs...
I've been a fitness guy for a couple decades now and I took a Crossfit class a few years back just to see if the things people said and the videos I'd seen had been true. The coaches there immediately had everyone start doing a barbell circuit with the first exercise being a clean & press... now, I can do them with the success of a practiced novice, but they didn't know that and the other people in the class definitely should not have been doing them. By the end of the class I came away having my pre-existing ideas about Crossfit confirmed.
The people that flock into crossfit are seldom kids. They're adults that think highly of themselves and need a new flashy hobby. You put them to practice clean and press and snatch technique with a broomstick for the first two weeks and they're never coming back lol! People want to skip the tutorial and go straight into it. Doesn't help that the instructors themselves are cut from the same cloth as well lol!
I joined a crossfit gym because a friend told me about it I didn't know what it was and when I joined they put us in a beginner course and took our weight,body fat %, and height and give us a diet based off it and we stayed there for a month maybe. Before each session they would have is work on the movements individually and practice to see which weight we could do movements with correct form and if they see you doing it wrong they have you stop and go down in weight or do a different variation of the exercise
Been powerlifting for 8 years and visited a CrossFit gym with my buddy and the first they did was max snatch. Let me tell you it was ugly and I declined to do them obviously because I never have before, and they kept trying to get me to do movements I actually couldn’t do at the time due to flexibility. It was very annoying/unnerving knowing how many people come through and will get thrown into these movements with no training/technique.
Did they suggest to use the barbell versus a PVC pipe? Based on your story it probably should have been "scaled" for you to use a PVC or do dumbell snatches at light weight. Idk those coaches in that when you went should not be coaches. This is what happens when coaches are made coaches as a result of paying to take a class for it.
Honestly making someone do a max snatch even though they've never done one before is just an attempt to intimidate and injure people. "Haha I can do this and you got hurt." These people just suck. You did the right thing to decline them. If you wanna do them, you should get your technique right with a pvc pipe and empty bar first under supervision of a competent weightlifting trainer. I've been doing weightlifting almost a year now and I still kinda suck lol (70kg snatch and 95kg c&j), but at least I've been injury free.
Powerlifter here too. With a 500 DOTS, I went to bench on a drop in pass at a crossfit gym and they informed me that I didn't know how to train optimally and that crossfit is better for building strength in powerlifting than powerlifting training.
One of the negative/bad things about cross fit and what separates it from other 'sports' is that it is controlled by a single corporation who are the arbiters of what the sport is. That is really odd and I can't think of another sport where this is the case. Also there is no end goal as such. The events keep changing so it is very hard to judge and makes it complicated rather than fastest to run 100m for example.
@@fica1137 This is a reasonable comparison. But fifa only really deals with the world cups there is also UEFA and then the individual country leagues are separate. You could have a football tournament in your garden or at a school and no one would complain. if you had a crossfit event without permission etc you could get sued. It sometimes seems like a cult at times with Dave Casto being in charge. Can you imagine you train all year for the Open and then he just randomly chooses to throw in a new event like he has done in the past with rope climbs or peg board climbs etc. I know it's the point of the sport but it's so weird that the events are secrets. Sure make them different every year but by keeping them a secret it just adds too much luck into who does well because they randomly can climb rope.
I've been going to gym for a few months now and seeing some of these exercises are really painful, they look so ineffective or dangerous. I never enjoyed seeing people hurt themselves in the gym, this video made me cringe so much.
I have been a total year now in the gym but even still you can tell some of thesse are dangerous and dump especially the one where he fucking toss a bar to someone else
I joined a crossfit gym and honestly never seen anything like this video, mostly just see people perfect their form on the named movements, which I do find very impressive to see. There's also this physical therapist with a professional gymnastics background that's just pulling off the most crazy shit but I know him well enough that he knows what he's doing.
Dom Mazetti: endless supply of quotes for every youtube fitness video on any topic LOL. Heres other: " I do not trust anything that does not involve bench press"
@@pablov1323 wait he actually says that?? what a clown 🤣🤣 and the fact that none of the crosfit cult members realize when he says "exercising is the goal" literally translate in to the fact that he's saying crosfit isn't for self improvement but rather it's a fashion just show how little braincells they have comparing even to juiced up lifters
@@GarethXL Check Dom Mazzetti dude u will have a good lauther. His yt channel is fun. He ain't a cross fitter but any means. He in my opinion is weight lifter and tries to have a laugh on YT.
The funny thing is, I actually think the idea of exercising being the goal is a good thing. Just not the way crossfit does it like it is a sport. Too many people focus on the goal, but not the process. Learning to enjoy the process is like self actualization for exercise.
Went to a beginner CrossFit class. They had us doing 10 sets of 12 barbell back squats, at 70% ORM, 30 second rests. Basic squat rack with no safety features at all. This was after a 45 min HIIT warmup. They then ended the session with a race consisting of a pyramid of burpees and kettle bell swings. It's absolutely a recipe for injury. It was the first time I ever experienced a leg cramp in my life and in just glad it happened on the walk home and not with a bar on me.
I love the general idea of cross-fit (functional, cardio and strength training all combined) and plenty of personal trainers use cross-fit ideas in their programs. It isn't hard to work these same concepts into your own personal training (just go outside and aerate your own lawn by hand with a pick ax between wind sprints), without the craziness.
@Trump Is The Messiah yup, they also try to villainize normal resistive weight training by only ever pointing out single lifts then saying "look! that won't help you fight off a bear." A good lifting routine hits all the various muscle groups evenly and with an emphasis on good form, which means safety. Just sprinkle in some cardio on your lighter days or your upper-body days and you get the same if not better results in a safer environment.
What's funny is weight lifting was specifically designed to isolate and control movements of muscles for strength training. It turns out, the people who discovered weight lifting knew of it's inherent dangers to the human body that lifting heavy ass weights can cause. That's why form, safety, and spotters are stressed to all newbies. This crossfit stuff is silly. It's so sad so many people have been and are getting hurt.
100% agree. I see it as a way for people who do not want to put in the time and pain, to fool themselves. Those are not legit pull ups. If they had to do them legit, they would be doing 1/3rd what they are.
@@sovereigntysoldier1303 I wouldn't even call those pull ups. It's basically wiggling yourself to the bar lol. But yeah, you can tell that those people don't actually have the endurance to perform pull-ups. I knew guys who only did either weightlifting and/or crossfit and I outdid them in pull-ups simply because I trained myself to do them correctly. Anyone can learn to do them correctly, but for some reason crossfitters only care about half assed movements as if that actually proves someone is an athlete.
I recently started at a small CrossFit gym. My first class both coaches walked through the movements with me using a training bar with no weight. When it was time to do the workouts one coach had written down a special modified reduced work out just for me. Both coaches watched me while I did the workout, checked for form and fatigue and at one point told me to do less reps on my shoulder overhead press because I was tired and losing form. I think the biggest issue with CrossFit is that experiences vary SO wildly and finding a good one with good coaches seems so rare.
Crossfit has the right ethos on "overall fitness", buts needs to do the following: 1. Separate all the types of training into specialised sessions and not mush them all into a single big mess and just say "progress!" 2. Not prioritise speed of strict movements, anything that promotes injury should be taken out of a program and not excused as "makes you tougher". 3. Instructors need at least 2 years of coaching and some intermediate training qualification. What were they thinking with that 2 day requirement!? 4. Any wacky movement that provide absolutely no functional strength benefit need to be redirected to the circus. 5. The vomit shit needs to be cut. If its making you sick its not making you stronger.
I guess I just had a really lucky first CrossFit gym. #1 was already happening with regular sessions and advanced sessions. #2 was try if you might- most didn't want to attempt the bigger movements if they were not ready for them. #3- instructors were not 2 years licensed but they were super professional and never allowed us to sacrifice form. They vetted people in the 2 day requirement. #5 Nobody in our gym ever glorified vomiting. Maybe that's just a new thing? Idk, it's been 4 years.
7:00 yes, I've done that in construction quite a bit. You use those shoulder muscles to pick up a heavy object in each hand, especially if you have to set the objects down on something above floor level. I've some this with rolls of Romex wire while chucking it into a step van
You know the best way to have functional fitness? Is to get really strong at multiple compound movements (deadlift, bench press, ohp, squat, pull up, bent over row etc) and the foundation of strength you get from those very naturally carries over to being better at most other activities, technique aside.
I started doing CrossFit after years of thinking why was this so hyped. I found a great gym near my new apartment and signed up for a few introductory classes. No pressure to go super heavy or go hard, but getting the movements right. I think it’s all what you put into it. I use it for the functional fitness I need in my job as a firefighter paramedic.
@@Zharina agreed, I do crossfit as off-season training for my other sports. I like the workout schemes but opt out of the cheat exercises like the pull-ups since they don't really help you unless you're specifically training for crossfit.
@@Zharina to be able to do mutiple butterfly you have do be strong enough to do strict. So if go to a good crossfit box, they will not just let you do those butterfly first... You need the strenght to preforme them safe....
@@amandamikaelsson7225 but normal pull-ups actually require less strength... you can see from the demonstration that they are using their momentum to swing back up. I tried some and besides almost slamming my jaw on the bar it was much easier.
"We're doing this so we can go outside and survive better." THIS...that right there is why it's hated lol. Go have fun trying to survive better when you don't have friends and family to help you get/prepare the food you can't on your own because you slipped mutilple discs in your back and dislocated an elbow trying to clean and jerk 20kg over your 1RM after you just swam 500m... He is the perfect example of a CrossFit DingDong. He thinks if you aren't constantly putting your health and mobility at risk in order to complete a "WOD" you aren't training hard enough. But I would be willing to bet anyone who did 18 months of normal periodized training where cardio and lifting are separate activities would not only outlift him on any of the big 3, but could also outrun him because they wouldn't have wonky knees and hips that are missing 90% of their cartilage.
In my military unit when Crossfit came out every person that tried it got injured! Our Commander issued a Unit wide ban on Crossfit for all members due to a 100% injury rate and he notified Higher Command in a push to ban it for military as a whole. The biggest issue was form is always sacrificed for speed and max numbers making safety for the individual a last priority.
Excellent video. I've been doing CrossFit for 9 years. I've had no injuries and have improved drastically in my physical abilities. I can understand why people think CrossFit is stupid. Some of the things I see online labelled as CrossFit are absolutely ridiculous. And there seems to be some truly terrible gyms out there. A 'Rhabdo' board is a great example of this.
@@dr.bendover-md if you can open a gym with two days training, there definitely is NOT anything resembling a "true crossfit" That's a model that begs people to run whatever kind of ridiculous program they want. That's a feature of crossfit, not a bug.
@@bigrob966 I just love it how most anti-Crossfit people on here are desperately trying to prove their point using lame-ass logic. Guy: “well, I’ve been practicing CrossFit safely for five years and never seen anyone getting injured” Those people: “then it’s not CrossFit.”
And what the hell wightlifting and gym culture is??? I'm not defending crossifit but the same argument could be aplyed to wightlifting and powerlifting
@@nassimhaiouani3772 If you don't see the difference, then you've no idea about the subject or you're just not paying attention. Either way you don't know what you're talking about.
I went to a CrossFit by my house, luckily enough, they weren’t fake and the trainer was pretty cool and I got to learn so much alongside others. We prioritized safety and proper form with some creative workouts that didn’t risk injuries. I was so surprised in learning CrossFit’s overall infamous reputation.
@@GKkingg That's what I'm saying, the progress my family had in the one by us was that of a real gym, my progress as a teen was legit and no one was practicing exercises wrong/unsafely. For one thing, they showed a real pull up than that kipping nonsense. Hence my shock for learning Crossfit's overall bad reputation.
@@ValeRay2 lmao ‘when I went to a CrossFit gym, I didn’t do CrossFit, so I was surprised to learn that CrossFit was bad when not doing CrossFit gave me real results’
Not to mention the trend (at least here in Utah) of infidelity's and swinging in CrossFit gyms. I didn't believe it till people (close to me) I know were affected by it and talked about this trend.
Comparing the class I took and what I've seen here, the class i did was amazing. The trainers are experienced, skilled and extremely helpful. We always prioritized form over speed and weight. There was a time a limit and a set of exercises that were supposed to be done, but if you couldn't do it properly they always encouraged you to do less while keeping thr form proper
This is a great point for anyone considering trying a CF gym. Any reputable gym will let you have a trial class. If they're not focused on form (and talking with current members about form), probably a bad place. All the gyms I've seen around my town though seem to be pretty good. I haven't heard really any complaints.
I get that there maybe bad CF gyms, but all the ones i visited had this same mindset, you will first practice form before you start lifting heavy weights. I really dont see the hate for it. Butterfly pullups is what everyone is hammering on about but let me tell you, those guys can for sure do strict pullups, easily.
If the pullups weren't so sus and burpees didn't exist, I may actually be tempted to try CrossFit but in all honestly, I just prefer weight training and cardio, man just wants to be big.
I guess it really depends on the place you go to, the crossfit gym I've been going to for the past couple months I've never seen anyone do kipping pull-ups or any of those weird cheat like movements. Mine is more of a mix of a hardcore calisthenic, cardio (rowing, and biking) and powerlifting gym (however only really lifting twice a week besides load bearing type exercises).
Good video. Any properly executed exercise is better than none at all. At 7:00 Greg is demonstrating lateral raises and asks the crowd if any of them have done that on a job site . Well, never done the snatch, wall ball, pull ups of any kind, jump rope, box jumps, or overhead squats on a job site either. My opinion is that all properly performed exercise is functional. One might ask why Greg hates bodybuilders? His bias comes through fairly clearly.
I think strict lifting has its place and definitely does get you strong but there's room for exercises that help build muscle memory for stuff you do at work and in life. For example I don't always do deadlifts but every day I carry buckets filled with varied shifting weight. I don't always do push presses but every day at work I lift and carry 50lb grain sacks up and down stairs and put them on pallets taller than me. Box jumps seem unnecessary but it's the same mechanics needed to be able to climb around machinery. Battle ropes seem silly until you realize it's similar to the way firefighters throw hose and uses similar muscle groups. Ultimately both types of workout are great. CrossFit just misses the mark on how to do a functional workout safely and properly.
Greg is obviously trying to be hyperbolic for effect but anyone who knows what CrossFit is really about just chuckles at such comparisons. I for myself lost some size when moving from the regular iron gym to CrossFit but my cardiovascular strength and overall fitness (heart and lungs) improved to such a dramatic degree that I decided to stay in the CrossFit world even though sometimes the exercises seem silly and random. The cult thing must be an American symptom, outside the US most CF gyms / communities are nothing like that.
He needs to put down bodybuilding for people to buy into his business. His whole business idea is to rival other fitness sports. It's some BS rhetoric from a salesman. And stupid people fall for it. "Yeah, I guess crossfit is really better, thanks for the talk... Where do I sign up?"
@@dasdovian7785 bro, the best way to get better and stronger with shit you do at work, is gonna be the shit you do at work. Not crossfit. If you use a jackhammer all day you're gonna have massive and strong forearms. Sling bricks, you're gonna be better at that after a month of doing it. If you don't, then you don't do that movement enough and shouldn't worry about it.
I don't think there is anything inherently wrong with the idea of it. I went to a crossfit gym as a teen and our coach had the utmost emphasis on form and execution, he also played pro basketball in Europe so for athletes like myself it was great. The dude could snatch 400+ with incredible technique and he wanted all of us to have that before we even talked about going heavy. I believe it has more to do with the coaches rather than the sport itself, I had a headstart on lifts like the power clean and squat because he was so emphatic on form and building good basic on all movements. But we also didn't do those silly ass pullups so
@@mambutuomalley2260 probably from watching the best olympic lifters in the game do it for years now? It's not hard to spot good form when you've been lifting for the better part of a decade
@@GreyTackett Really hard to believe you when you drop such a non-specific number, that would be an Olympic record in 4 of the 7 classes. Just say the guys name, if he was a pro athlete this all should be pretty easy to verify no?
@@jakecarpenter397 names Jacob Davis. He’s a MD now, played from in Norway. Bout 6’4 235. Never lifted competitively to my knowledge but I personally watched him hit 405 for 1 and saw him rep 315-365 a multitude of times
Just seeing those terrible movements, I’m amazed they’re not sued out of business from all the injuries they’ve brought about! It is insane! Almost like they did it as an experiment to see how far they can push the envelope of reckless workouts!
@@thisismyyoutubecommentacco6302 waivers are worthless, they can cover your ass when you do nothing wrong and something unexpected happens, but not when someone ends up hurt because of negligence.
I was ready to defend Crossfit but I actually agree with how dangerous the rep, competitive environment is. I’m heavy and new and joined a Crossfit class, I was puking after trying to catch up with the rest of the class. But I did appreciate how our coach taught me about the proper form. Thanks for this informative video.
@@durema9720 Thats sport. lol. its about getting better and surpass your old self or others. otherwise its just training. get lost crybaby. putting politics in everything
@@Yarn1x8757 Sport history literally was a political competition between Greeks. But don't get me wrong. There is nothing without healthy competition but politics always be politics and instead just turn into **** measuring.
I started CrossFit about 2 months ago. I am on the overweight side of the spectrum. So, here are my two cents: 1) Start at a gym where you are being monitored during classes 2) get the basics down i.e., form and technique. Lifting heavy comes after 3) don’t workout because of ego. Simple terms- workout for yourself and don’t compare the results with the person next to you 4) Don’t overdo it I enjoy it. At least for some of it. There are times when I want to give up, but I am seeing some positive results such as shrinking waist size, bigger arms, and a community of friends. Try it for a week and see if you like it. If you don’t, simply stick to what works for you. Some of the CrossFit movements are a little too wild. In such cases, always scale them to your fitness level and level of comfort.
Also: If the coach, other staff members, or even fellow members notice that something is not right for you and doesn't suggest a scaled or modified movement, LEAVE. I've been doing crossfit for almost 8 years; can't do a pull-up, not even a jumping pull up but there are many other challenging movements that I can do. And no coach has ever tried to force me into anything that would cause injury or is totally out of my capabilities.
@@gwennewell3232 Yes. That’s a big thing. Luckily, my CrossFit box does allow for scaled down and scaled up version depending on our level and challenge.
Ex-crossfitter here :D I was very lucky, and had a great gym, where the very first rule was that you are more important than the weights. One thing that I took away from my 2 years there, was my love for lifting weights. My biggest issue, though, was that it is expensive. Now I have all my weights at home, and I can go at my own pace, and make sure that my form is correct at all times :) Thanks for a fantastic video!
Yep I did the same thing. Bought a Rogue yoke to use as a yoke and a squat/bench rack as well as nice barbell and weights all for less than I would have spent on a year of crossfit membership dues. Plus I can use it whenever I want instead of having to wait for class time!
I'm not saying you're wrong, but if you had BAD form, and you didn't know how to learn better form, how would you know? You would just THINK you have good form, but nobody would be there to correct you if it's actually not good. Or if it's good, but could be better. I agree though, that there is a pretty low bar for becoming a CF coach and being responsible to correct form when need be.
@@sratnatozmrde If you buy a barbell and plates, that will cost a lot upfront but consider it an investment. It pays off down the road with savings in time and gym memberships in the future.
My old trainer used to work for a CrossFit gym, he essentially was a private trainer that had to give a sizable portion of his income to the gym owners. I used to work with him there and would see the CrossFit classes working out. My coach was adamant about form and safety issues over all. My form in any workout had to be perfect before he would let me do it with any kind of intensity. Every single person in the CrossFit class had pretty damn horrible form. Half of them had knee braces, wrist braces, ect. Also all the coaches except my private coach had little to no formal training or education in exercise science or other wise. Eventually the gym owners raised their rates and essentially asked my coach for over half his profit. He finally left and built his own small gym. I still see some of the people that used to workout at CrossFit and almost all of them have horrible chronic back, knee, shoulder or hip pain.
While the biggest positive of CrossFit is getting more people into fitness, I’m not a fan. There’s a good reason why physical therapists love partnering w/ CrossFit gyms, b/c they get a steady stream of injured patients from them. The focus on completing a specific number of reps within a period of time is a perfect recipe for injury, as form will almost certainly break down in order to accomplish that goal. Almost everyone I know who has done CrossFit for any period of time has injured themselves directly from their participation in it (mostly shoulder & back injuries), as the competitive nature of the cult-like group fitness classes with time-based performance requirements has people ego lifting more often than not…..While we should all be checking our ego at the door if we want the safest & best results. I don’t think it’s all bad, as the functional fitness components are valid (if done properly), and the fact that it inspires people to start exercising has great value too. However, there are many better ways for people to accomplish the same goals through safer & more conventional training methods. Solid video with some very fair points Josh! 👍
I came to CrossFit in my mid-30s and have been talked into attempting some really dodgy stuff at times. Fortunately, I had the experience and confidence to say "no" eventually and that is essential. If you don't have a background in gymnastics or power lifting, then there are some serious risks. Most important, don't let these clowns talk down to you. It's your body and your life.
Yup. The old gym I go to leans a little bit towards gymnastics. I’m not built for that. I had rotator cuff pain for a while and I immediately quit before it got worse. It really depends on the gym that you go to.
I used to work in a gym and the crossfit possie would do these big elaborate workouts with a whole bunch of equipment and not put it back - that's why I hate crossfit.
*Broke:* I hate Crossfit because it is far more dangerous than conventional weightlifting and can lead to severe health issues *Woke:* I hate Crossfit because it produces some of the worst gym douches the world has ever seen.
I started my journey with crossfit and I meet the most knowledgeable and fit coach that taught me almost all I know and gave me confidence to start powerlifting on my own, nonetheless some of their movements can be quite dangerous but some coaches (like mine) actually know proper form
I loved CrossFit. I agree with some of this. Depends on the coaching and the gym. I started CrossFit in 2009 with a awesome cast of coaches that supervised every move. I was never more in shape at 33. A few years later the owner starting coaching. Fittest person I’ve ever known. The competition and intensity the owner created forced the elite status in house. It was more about training for the games and less about being a gym for basic functional fitness for the average person. I was getting obsessed. Being pushed more and more. CrossFit, running and swimming. I finally broke tearing my Achilles’ tendon on steep grade hill running in 2014. I’ve not been the same since. I’m not slamming CrossFit but damn it, buyer beware. Go with your gut, know your limits, stick to them and don’t let anyone push you past what you feel is doable. Be prepared to walk and find another gym if it’s not a right fit. 🤙
That's what my crossfit gym did and then I told him are you paying me monthly or am I paying your monthly bills. I forget who is the damn customer in this busienss. They backed off of me ever since and I scale when I see fit and never push me beyond my limits.
@@sonicmoj1 I tried that too. Coach wasn’t going to change his stripes. I’d get poor coaching if any at all if I modified the workout. I’m glad it worked for you.
I did crossfit for just over a year, I focused on form over speed due to the potential health risks. not to say I didn't aim to do it fast I just prioritised form. I thought it was really good, I would reccomend it but I'd also reccomend seeking out a top notch crossfit gym! I'm currently into bodybuilding but also pilates and cycling as I find it a lot cheaper; this could be an alternative to crossfit, im not a professional mind I say this simply from personal experience (:
I joined a CrossFit class for a week (trial) years ago and promptly twisted my ankle on the 2mi run after following what I thought was the exercise class, but it equated to a warmup in CrossFit. The people there wrapped up my ankle, helped me put on my shoe, and said let’s go. “Let’s go” as in finish the run. It was around that time when I knew I wandered into the twilight zone.
sry to hear that you had such a bad experience. This surely is a bad example of a crossfit gym. Imo injuries cannot be completely avoided, like rwisting an ankle while running. However, as a coach, I would never encourage anyone to finish a workout injured (rather the opposite). Training when something clearly hurts is the worst thing you can do.
As somone who overtrained while not knowing the extent of my injuries i was training through, i have experienced first hand the benefits and failures of crossfit. To start, it does have its place and does bring a lot of joy to people who struggle with their fitness. The results come fast if you stay consistent. The problem is the nature of unnecessary reps/movesets and stress your body is put through. I think it depends a lot on your coach(s) understanding and flexibility in terms of setting you on the right pace. Just because someone next to you is doing reps at 95 does not mean you have to add the weight on. Repping to failure is not something your mind or body should be set up to try on a regular basis. Most people who try crossfit and dont like it usualy get injured within the first 2 workouts. Ive seen it a lot. You can get in shape without all the crazy non stop full body range activities. The coach to client ratio is also a big problem. A real coach can only truely focus on a small amount of people, but 1 coach per 15 means a lot of reps that are done incorrectly get brushed aside and not corrected or noticed until the person says their in pain.
This, im surprise about how many people were complaining that they made them do exercises that they still couldn’t do, because when i joined my crossfit box, they change some of the exercises of the wod for simple things that i could actually do. And they are always so focus on the form you do them too, always trying to not push you too much so you wont get hurt. For weightlifting the same, i started with the 7kg bar, and before every type of lift we all would try to improve our technic or practicing with the PVC first, then the bar alone and last adding weight little by little. So idk how can boxes like the one people in here are complaining or the one from the clips of this video exist. Like im so happy in my box, where my trainer actually care and knows what i can and cant do, and actually care that i wont get hurt And btw, wtf were those exercises in this video? Most of them I’ve never seen… In my box we mostly do traditional stuffs. Im really shock with all those clowny clips
Crossfitter here. One of the first few things I was taught was to care about my form rather than the number of reps I can do in 30 seconds(rushing like a maniac is a super beginner thing to do and will lead to injury). Not a fan of kipping for pullups though, through and through traditional for me. It's unfortunate that we get a bad rep from shitty form videos. But I swear we're not all like that.
I want to believe you. In fact, I dare ask that if you care about your form, and doing pull-ups correctly, are you actually doing Crossfit? Honest question.
Well yes. It's still circuit training or HITT. Just with proper technique. Also my take here is bad form videos make for good UA-cam content and proper form is boring to look at. #teamboringalltheway
The same for me Not all coaches are the same Not all boxes/gyms are the same In my gym they incentivize to focus on technique and never allow a beginner to try handstand and more advanced techniques That’s why I’m focusing on technique first and haven’t started doing handstand properly until recently
When I was doing Football Training during Highschool, the regimen we had was Crossfit (though I didn't realize that at the time). Go as fast as you can, go as hard as you can, non-stop. I've had times such as the Push and Jerk where my muscles would just suddenly give up on me due to exhaustion and I barely manage to roll it down my chest onto the ground. I remember one very specific incident. A Sophomore was doing Cleans as fast as possible. Normally you try to take more time, but the Coaches wanted more speed. He brought the bar up too fast, lost his balance, and fell backwards. The problem is that we did Cleans and Push and Jerk on a 3 inch high large raised platform. They were extremely lucky to have someone behind them to help, because their neck ended up right over the end of this change in height and the bar would've 100% crushed their windpipe completely. I am in full support of increasing cardio. Figuring out ways to really get your body moving... but not while you're lifting weights. Period. You shouldn't be trying to do 20 reps of Cleans as fast as possible. 20 perfect slow reps are far better than 19 perfected fast reps and 1 bad rep. In fact, going slower is *better* for your workout. The whole point of lifting weights is to train your muscles. Why should I care if you do 50 swinging pullups if me doing 10 slow ones work my muscles out way more? If your goal is to be athletic, do athletic training outside of the gym.
This is gold. The purpose of whatever you do is to become better and better. If you wanna be good at soccer, you practice the agility drills and ball control and displacement. At another time, you go to the gym to strengthen your body, which makes you a more complete footballer.
I think a balanced approach works best for me. Doing Crossfit HITT workouts but sticking to good form Olympic lifts and real pullups avoids the issues when coupled with a solid dumbbell workout routine at the gym.
I went to a crossfit gym once and people were using good form and they were incredibly fit. I'm still not a massive crossfit fan because I dont enjoy it but I could see why others did. They also had way better community than any gym i've ever seen
I did crossfit at two good gyms for a little more than a year before the pandemic, and I enjoyed it. But I also learnt not all trainers know what they're doing, even if they're fit. I think the key is to research your crossfit providers well, and learn to go at your own pace. Respect your weight limits and focus on form, regardless of peer pressure.
Same goes for any kind of sport/discipline with the “not all trainers know what they’re doing, even if they’re fit”. Being fit shouldn’t give anyone more credibility
Well a lot of what is displayed here is either people screwing around doing dumb crap for fun or the competitive piece of it. This is not the experience you will get as a regular person. Crossfit is like anything if you have a good coach it will be relatively safe and it is as dangerous as you choose to make it.
CrossFit was fun when it first came out in the early 2000s. I joined the first ever “box” in my city in 2005 and we did a lot of fun, truly varied workouts. It was with firefighters, leo and military folks as well as a few current or former pro athletes and fighters. It slowly changed into a thing for grandmas or random, jacked dudes who had no athletic abilities. As this video explains, injuries went up with more gyms in the market, new people with bad technique and poor coaching. All that said, there are still good folks out there and it was the fittest, fastest and strongest I ever was from 2003 to 2010.
Pleasantly unbiased and good video overall. Here are my two cents (words taken from Jordan Feigenbaum / Austin Baraki - Barbell medicine): "We live in a world were the leading cause of death are heart disease. Maybe we should stop fighting over who has the best workout routine and celebrate that there are multiple options that get people off their sofa"
The only thing that it took for me to avoid this like the plague is the extremely bad form most of them have. While I’ve been a big fan circuit routines in general (because of how time efficient it is), I really prefer to focus mostly on good form (more like impeccable form) within the 8 to 15 rep range rather than doing a super high rep and super fast routine that will injure me in no time… Also it happens that almost every person who I knew was into CrossFit only talked about that
im new to crossfit, and i will admit, most of the things in this video i haven't seen. we are generally comprised of classes no bigger than 16, and the trainers, or coaches - whatever you want to call them, will constantly walk by and adjust your form to make sure you don't injure yourself. you even go through a phase called Roots where they teach you the basics, figure out your goals and then guide you from there. some places are probably just better than others.
@@safs3098 yes they definitely are exaggerated. Not many people do the butterfly pull ups and if you do it’s because you are very well trained. At my gym you aren’t even allowed to kip a pull up until you have a strict pull up
@@amymarieca I can do 200+ Butterfly pullups because theyre just easy and hearting your body. Crossfit is shit in any ways of bodybuilding. But i see, we lost you to Crossfit idiots. Just go to the gym und train normaly, without harming yourself.
As someone who does crossfit this is hilarious. I'm fortunate i belong to a gym where were just there to work out. And they teach proper forms. Its always form before intensity. Theres no discrimination against other types of workouts, were just there to work out, and try to be fit.
I got Arthritis in my shoulder and knees at the age of 28. This is a combination of working out wrong/to much and genetic predisposition. When I see young people focusing on gains of muscles mass like its the only thing that matters, i wish they would know at what cost this comes long term.
Exactly how did you work out wrong/too much? I'm doing three days a week currently, and I try to limit my risk of injury but it is sometimes hard to strike the balance between that and aiming for strength. And i can't guarantee that at some point it won't have consequences in the future.
I think it is more important to look at the individual gym. I have a CrossFit near me and I personally don’t go often but I’ve been a couple times and seen that it focuses more on form and safety than the weight.
Once had a friend who was a gym guy that would not talk much about what he was doing start talking non stop about it once he joined crossfit. He became truly unbearable to be around
I did CrossFit for two weeks and stopped. They still text me to remind me I have two weeks of classes left. I’ve thought about doing 1 every week but it felt like such a cult and so unsafe with how many reps. Also I’m trying to build large muscles fast, not burn all my calories off and be too lean.
No such thing as large muscles fast with that said normal bodybuilding with progression overload should do also protein intake and sleep should also be factored in. Good luck.
That last part Is definitely true, the best workout is the one that you stick to long term, i workout at home despite the gym having better equipment, it keeps me very consistent
I've never heard about crossfit before, but just from the intro my first reaction was "this is very dangerous". Crossfit is trying to push for the balance between strenght and agile. Without proper technical training this have devestating consequenses.
as an 80 yr.old whose been a teacher, coach, competitior, personal trainer with degrees in exercise and sport science , i would NEVER send anyone to one of these places......... it will go the way of most fads. i cringe when i see what happens in a lot of these gyms.
“The best workout is the one you actually do long-term”. I think that’s the key here. Sure, there’s some odd things about crossfit, but I’d much rather have my patients come in with a minor lifting injury than the terrible health consequences of a sedentary lifestyle. Great video, Josh!
@@ubcroel4022 that’s not happening with 99.99% of people that do crossfit. There’s maybe a couple cases a year that make a big splash on social media, making it seem more common than it is
i’ve always been surrounded by good crossfit gyms with extremely good trainers so i’ve only ever seen good come from crossfit. i can definitely see how horrible it could be with bad trainers and don’t teach right
my first and last experience with crossfit was almost getting scamed at one crossfit presentation ive been invited to. they basicaly wanted you to chase an impossible fitness objective doing a potentialy dangerous BS and paying them for it at the same time. so instead i started doing alot of pull-ups and push-ups, eating and sleeping properly and got from skinny fat to ripped in about 3 months. if people stoped looking for a magical type of workout or a diet and just started exercising diligently, they would have been ripped by now too. some will get there faster, some slower, but we are all going to get there eventually
I was really fat, so I started doing wall push ups and pull ups. I could do the real ones but my joints couldn't handle it. I started BJJ, lost 20kg, and now I can do 2 perfect form pull ups in a bar! It may seem little but for me it was amazing.
You hinted at the best part of CrossFit while bashing it. The best way to get physically fit is through consistency. The class and competition aspects make it so that you actually want to go to the gym and get exercise in every day as opposed to going to a normal gym and doing the same splits every week. As long as you have good coaches that can adjust things to peoples abilities so they aren’t hurting themselves, it can be a really useful way of getting fit for those that get burned out easily on the regular gym life
I think it just depends on the gym and on the coach. I've done CrossFit for 4 years in my past and I memorized it as good environment, helpful and good coaches and working out with a group which was hella-easier than training alone (especially that it was my first try to change my lifestyle to be healthier). Even though I've not became shredded nor thin (but it wasn't fault of the CF, I just didn't care about the diet at the time, didn't know how important it is) I built strength and learnt how to safely do exercises, even the complex ones. So yeah, butterfly/kipping pull-up is way easier than a strict one, but still an exercise - just different
As an old guy, my joints can only take so much, and it looks like Crossfit is brutal on your joints. I think keeping your cardio and resistance training separate is much more sustainable and efficient. I used to go to a local gym to lift, then it turned into a Crossfit gym and all the regular equipment was pushed into the corner and I had to climb over equipment to get to the benches and racks. I quit going there.
Thanks for the love! I actually have a new video coming soon about crossfit 😅. I enjoyed your perspective and love your channel, keep it up!
Thanks a lot Ben😀 Look forward to it!
Noticed you instantly in this video! “Oh no is he doing kipping to!? Ah phew, his face says ‘I don’t approve of this’” 💪
Why the rename of the channel ? :o
@@TimOver-ch7pw I'm also curious
Gross. They need to really not celebrate their victims and wear senseless injury like a badge of honor
The dangers of a bad trainer cannot be overstated. Joined a crossfit gym in my early 40s. In less than a week, they tried to get me to do handstand push-ups, kipping pull-ups and box jumps. This was when I didn't know what a push-up or squat looks like. Got injured way too often. Crossfit came across as a sport for the fit to demonstrate their fitness, not a tool for the average person to get fitter.
That’s horrible man. The CrossFit box I used to go to regularly wouldn’t even allow beginners to do that type of stuff at first. You had to go through basic movement classes and progress like any other sport. We even took trips to olympic gyms to work specifically on olympic lifts by professionals. Safety was always a top concern, as well as flexibility and strength.
I feel so bad that you experienced such a piss poor example of CrossFit. It can be a ton of fun and the community in many places are like friends and family.
yeah this is where bad trainers/good trainers really make/break the sport. My coaches have all been the opposite, when I first started they were soooooo careful with me, what weights I was using and encouraged me to modify a lot until I felt comfortable with the basics, moving/fitness etc.
It is also your responsibility to let trainers know about your fitness level and ask for alternatives. But you are right good trainers should offer alternative movements
@@VictoryAviation Yeah. It is just the quality of the box is in the hand of the trainer's integrity.
Agree with everyone here. I opted out of cross fit, researched and moved to a traditional weight lifting program. Along the way, discovered I enjoy kettlebell training as well. So, some good came out of a crossfit program after all!
Not everyone hates crossfit. Chiropractors, surgeons, and EMTs appreciate the extra influx of business 🍵
Its called "job security" lol
As an EMT, I agree. Nothing like getting a few extra paid jobs on the weekends!
Gold.
Good point
As an EMT, I also strongly agree.
"It was a great idea, just with terrible execution" is the best way to summerize crossfit. Great video as always.
I think the crossfit game also hurt crossfit. The ridiculousness of some of the event and the blatant ped use that they lie about. Some of the athlete come off as asshole throwing shade at steroids user while they secretly use them in the background. You can lie about drug use in mainstream sport but it never a good idea when your sport is lifting weights.
Exactly
Crossfit is the embodiment of “quantity over quality”
Not even a great idea, it literally was made for injuries
@@AscendedZenith And literally made to ensure sub-optimal performance at any/every given endeavor besides crossfit. The conflation of philosophy, methodology, and sport is the worst part. Pretty much nihilism masquerading training methodology and/or sport.
My only experience was being out of town and entering a crossfit and said "Oh, I'm on a month long trip and I'm just looking for a gym for a few weeks" and the guy was like "this isn't a gym, this is crossfit" and I immediately knew I was in the wrong place.
I had a similar experience recently..
Lmaooo bye
What's a GYM?
Yes you were😅😅😅😅
"This isn't a gym, this is a family"
I don’t hate them, I just want to see them do a regular pull up.
I always do strict pullups while the others in the class working on kipping. My crossfit intstructor said strict slow vertical pullups are much better than kipping so instead of 30 kips, I scale and do 15 strict pullups. It's all about choosing the substitue workout that crossfit offers. Dumbells are better than barbells if you do not have the proper form.
What is a regular pullup? There is absolutely no such thing as a strict pull-up just like there is no such thing a perfect push-up.. you are going to move your body in so sort of way that isn’t perfectly straight for a push-up or perfectly still for a strict pull-up.. crossfitters can do “strict” pull-ups just as well as most other people who workout.. when I see people talking about a real pull-ups and I see there body slightly sway back and forth as they go up and come down I roll my eyes cause that’s just a small Kip or a small floppy fish movement as people call CrossFit pull-ups..
Hahaha
I will out strict pull up you any day, buddy
I got made fun of for strict pullups in my crossfit class. Had the biggest back in the class. Werf.
When i was a gym manager at a predominantly powerlifting gym, we held a workshop for trainers in the area just to give tips and trick for the big three lifts (squat, bench, deads) because that is a powerlifters skillset. Around our area we had two CrossFit gyms and we had a bunch of CrossFit coaches attend the workshop, and let me just say it was shocking/concerning that most of them lacked the proper skills to perform the three most common compound movements safely and soundly. More so was the concern that many of these individuals were regularly teaching others on how to lift, while lacking the proper technique themselves.
Well if they were amazing at those movements, they wouldn’t be attending your workshops, would they?
Isn’t it commendable that they perhaps saw their shortcomings and wanted to learn?
I’m sure that compared to a crossfit coach, a powerlifting coach would have a higher level of criticism and standard to achieve the perfect movement and lift.
@@iggi3985 I think what Cal is saying is that it's surprising, not to mention dangerous, that these crossfit coaches had been teaching bad lifting already. The concern is how?...why didn't they understand form on 3 foundational exercises? How did they make it to "coach" level in their gyms? How common is this?
It's great that they were there learning at the workshop. Hopefully, they broke the cycle of bad coaching.
@@iggi3985 The point Cal is trying to make is that they shouldn't have been coaches in the first place. Go learn proper technique FIRST, then go out there and train others. As a coach you take on the responsibility to help others, not injure them.
@@ivanmadethis No two coaches are the same. A crossfit coach can exhibit understanding of the movements and display perfect form them when needed upon gaining their certificate.
Unfortunately, some become complicit in their personal growth and upkeep and hence injuries occur.
My point is, that this is not unique to crossfit coaches. Every fitness and sports industry has this.
I’m no expert and the videos are shocking to me. Must be horrifying to coaches!
I work out 5 times a week for the past 10 years. Tried cross for a week and saw how unsafe, and unnecessarily self destructive to your body it was. My sister got into CrossFit 4 years ago and is addicted. Her body looks great but at what cost? She suffers from physical issues as a result and recently had surgery on her shoulder. You can get the same results by sticking to a safe gym regimen without sacrificing your body.
Couldn't you say the same thing about people that play any sport and i'm not even excluding curling here. I could make a compilation of morons similar to the one in this video for crossfit doing any physical activity.
This is mean, but I fel like they deserve it.. Crossfit is what happens when a bunch of bored, never-before-athlete nerds, get together to try and be badass - and then think theyre badass. And then ultimately became snobs lol. Fuck em
CrossFit is safe , people make it on safe by trying to lift heavy when they obviously ain’t ready for that way. Same with people who go to regular gym and try lifting heavy ass fuck on leg press or deadlift plus all the steroids they be taking
@@ZeePicazo well considering, someone doing CrossFit is twice as likely to be injured and than traditional gym routines says a lot.
@@ZeePicazo so crossfitters arent on steroids"??? lmaoooo please stop
I was very curious about this. Recently I sent a video of myself doing handstand push-ups very slowly to my friends because I just managed to do it after many years... and one of them, crossfiter, told me that the best way to achieve it is to kick up and cheat it by doing it fast... I told him: that's how you get a broken cranium or neck and he told me that's the way they do it in crossfit. Thing is I managed to do handstand push-ups because I started slowly with regular ones and then more difficult versions, dominating the form correctly, with much care.
I was told that doing slow and controlled movements is useless, since in my life I will never be doing a slow pull-up. Thing is, I'm a rock climber. I will do slow pull-ups when I've got a suboptimal grip. I will also do archer pull-ups.
Also - needless to say - the whole mentality of "you won't be doing that" is like saying "You will never calculate the gravitational pull of an object, physics is useless". Maybe I won't, but that doesn't mean it will be a useless piece of knowledge. I train my muscles to be able to work efficiently. I can achieve that with pull-ups.
That's why sprinting is the best.
Finish a workout in under 10 mins.
10 sec sprint, 3 minutes rest.
1-5 times a day.
It seems to me that your friend will eventually win a Darwin award.
I think there are 2 main factors:
1. Experienced lifters see these people running several miles then attempting max lifts. Everyone knows this is a bad idea - including the participants and organizers.
2. Crossfit spreads a mentality very quickly - even to the newcomers - that if you've done 3 crossfit classes a week for 6 weeks in a row you are now somehow more physically fit and have a higher expertise on lifting techniques than someone with years of dedicated experience doing 6 days of weights and 3 days of cardio every week. I have seen crossfitters approach my friend Dan on the platform and critique his snatch technique even though he was a full ride weightlifter at LSU, and is now the strength and conditioning coach for a local college football team.
Ah yeah, who doesn't like to get unsolicited advice from a random 40yo dad in a pair of shiny nanos just to see him later with his back rounded while trying to deadlift 220 lmao
That type of thing isnt specific to crossfit. Jack*sses come in all colors.
I don’t care his credentials was he snatching perfectly?
Tbf, anyone's form is liable to get sloppy on a bad day. But you're right that his credentials grossly outweigh any likelihood of him needing that advice, particularly from a (newbie?) Crossfit guy as their focus seems to be on HIIT rather than top form.
Yup, can spot the crossfitters a mile off, they have the worst form, focus everything on speed, and take up every piece of equipment in the gym for their 'circuits'
"Crossfit has revolutionized fitness, by teaching the correct way to do an incorrect pullup"
Bury me, cause I'm dead.
“Whether or not CrossFit is bad, largely depends on the gym you go to”
💯.
If you have experience with lifting weights, you might be able to tell, but when you're a total newbie, how would you know if it's a good gym or not?
@@Phlegm_Thrower Trust me, deciding whether a gym is good or not is obvious. The coaches will push you but they won't make you do anything outside your comfort zone. Any good couch wouldn't let you touch a bar until you had the form down
@@volduo1679 that's what my mate said when he took up Crossfit and tried to make me join. He still end up flopping around on that pull up bar.
@@Phlegm_Thrower idk what to tell you man 🤷 some people can't do a kipping pull up correctly
@@volduo1679 kipping pull-up by definition is NOT a proper pull up. Why? Because you're using momentum to pull yourself up.
Met a guy on a dating app once that was into crossfit. Said he wanted a partner that was into crossfit and it was a deal breaker if she did anything other than crossfit. We didn't get past that point as my knees are already bad.
That totally doesn't sound cult-ish. Not at all.
Knees > crossfit
What a weirdo
Guys taking yoga are much nicer and better in bed They are more " bendy " lol
Chances are, by now his are as well :p
In 2011 I was working at a café. A guy came in with a CrossFit T, I asked him what CrossFit is and he replied, "we train in a way that allows us to take any sport and almost beat any professional." ...I was a wrestler in college. I knew then CrossFit was a joke.
Lmao
you were a wrestler? sickkkk dude congratulations, way to take the most random chance occurrence and probably satirical comment and make it about you! way to go!
@@theresmeinteam9567 tf is your problem bro chill
@@Alejandro-et4pf I think he was the CrossFit T guy.
@@theresmeinteam9567 lmao 😂
I considered crossfit until I moved close to a crossfit gym 4 years ago. I'd regularly see people outside, rain or shine, working out and suddenly stop, puke on the side of the road, and then go back and keep working out. That mentality was a big NOPE for me.
That seems like a major sanitation issue...
you will see people puking also in fighting sports gyms all over the world. its hard to breath with teeth protector. i saw hundreds of people vomiting after their first sparring session. . but fighter are not animals. we puke in toilet like civilized people.
btw i did several spartan race and saw people puking and running at the same time. they didnt even stop to puke, because it would cost time :D
@@martinjesko3256 yeah but vomiting after your first sparring session is because you don't know how hard it will be, ahead of time.
After a couple weeks you gain some cardio and learn not to overexert yourself.
It's not the goal!
Puking means you pushed yourself beyond your previous limits. That is something to be proud of.
@@fostxswire1600 do you do crossfit?
I used to do Crossfit in high school. I always liked that we worked out in groups, but I always thought it was weird that everyone was obsessed with the amount of time you completed the workout. Sacrificing form for speed seemed so stupid to me so I always took far longer than everyone in the group. Despite them giving advice about kipping and the like. I could kinda tell even as a teen that this was probably dangerous so that along with the membership price is what made me leave
LOL I hate working out in groups since I always compare myself to everyone else. Not sure why anyone would think finishing a set fast is more important than proper form. It's like saying I won a driving race but knocked over 3 lampoles and killed 2 people along the way.
@@mattm7798 There's a reason why slow movements like Tai Chi are better than fast ones like Kung Fu. They build strength and train proper form far better than fast movements do. One of my old bosses used to teach Tai Chi and he was asked to teach a bunch of martial arts students, and they all got super shaky and tired trying to do everything slowly lol.
And many people sacrifice form for flexing more weight at Globo Gym as well... What do you think the % of members at your average chain gym have studied proper form, technique, warmup, cooldown and recovery periods? Less than 5% maybe?
I mean, I get how doing Crossfit, completely uneducated or practiced at the movements, is dangerous, but there's plenty of injuries in every other aspect of personal fitness as well. This tunnel-vision hatred is just beyond me. I think it more boils down to fitness elitist/purists who can't stand something taking attention away from their preferred "style", along with beef-jockeys who thought they were Adonis-like specimens of fitness, and tried Crossfit, but sucked at it.
@@chrisvanderwielen1530 I think CrossFit has a lot of good things going for it. The communal aspect, hybrid training (lifting heavy AND training the aerobic system) but the competitive sport is fundamentally flawed.
The primary performance metric is time. Combining the time with weighted movements incentivizes risky behavior. That is why the injury rates are notably higher than any other barbell sport. It also has the problem of being intentionally unspecialized. It’s literally competitive exercise. The best competitors are the ones with the highest general work capacity. The only way to be a better competitive exerciser is exercise more. To keep up with the competition athletes over exercise and/or take copious amounts of PEDs, both of which are dangerous.
I could care less about the time. I always finished last but always pay attention to form. I just tell myself bullshit on the time competition and focus on the proper breathing or proper form/extension and finish whenever the hell I finish. I'm paying monthly fees and I'm going to finish when I'm going to finish. The rest of the classmates can go fly a kite while they wait for me. So far it's worked out for me. I've seem to rub off on others. They would sit there regretting they whipped through the WOD only to see me take it slower and make sure I'm not cutting any corners. Now more people don't care about the time cap and just finish wherever they land at their speed.
Ive finally found this video again. This video literally saved my life lol I was out of shape after the lockdown and went to crossfit for the first time because i needed to stay active. Your video showed up on youtube and i watched it but i still thought it wouldnt do any harm going to crossfit a few more times. I went to the crossfit gym a second time and felt a little more intense pain than usual, which back then i thought was natural, after all getting fitter hurts right? And I did put in the effort. But when i saw my urine as dark as coke in the toilet, i remembered this video and went to the ER on the same day. I explained to the doctors about my concern that it could be rhabdomyolysis. They tried to assure me it was rare so it was probably something else, but they still ran the tests. I was admitted and stayed at the hospital for a week until my protein levels in my blood were back to normal. I peed more in that week than i would normally pee in a month lol it was awful but at least my kidneys didnt fail. Thanks!
Wow. I'm glad you'ee doing well!
having rhabdo as a beginer is crazy, it's supposed to happend when you push yourself to the absolute limit
@@warthoggoulags1679 your limit can be low if you are a beginner
Looks like you pushed yourself too much on your 2nd class. Glad you're doing better, but you can't blame the sport for what you decided to do.
@@flrn84791
Crap personal trainer teaches client bad form and the client gets injured: trainer's fault
Crap Crossfit trainer pushes you too hard to do something stupid: your fault
Some 10 years ago I entered a crossfit gym, as the gym was having a introductory session which was mandatory for all new students costing about 400 dollars for 3 sessions. Then I saw the so called session teaching safe movements of how to do Pullups, followed by worst Deadlift form I ever saw in my life. I walked out telling the sales person I know better and quicker ways of becoming disabled for life, since that day I have never taken these clowns seriously. Crossfit, no thanks.
I had similar experience with CrossFit first time I saw the so called professional form and thought to myself compared to this I'm professional
I had the best CF coach who knew what he was doing. 0 injuries, focus on technique. Best exercise ever when done right.
@@AnnSisuLiv Similar experience here... First time with Crossfit, I had a horrible coach, and hated it... Second time, great coach, who emphasized on good form before performance, and told people who were lifting out of balance to use smaller weights, and control their movement... No one ever got hurt in the class, and people did improve and get in shape... While it's not the only way to train, a good coach will take you a long way...
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@@AnnSisuLiv same here. The coach I work with was an olympic lifter before she did crossfit. Form and safety are her priorities. It's amazing and I love it.
You hit the mark 100%: the problem with crossfit is the extreme quality variability based on how well run is the gym you go to. I've been doing it since 2018 and I've never seen serious injuries and the priority list has always been form first, speed second, load third. BUT, I live in Italy, so probably the environment is quite different than the US. Anyway, great video!
Same experience here in the U.S. Never seen anyone hurt or hurt myself through CrossFit. Hopefully the new management in CrossFit actually does something to solve the issue of some places having poor coaches instead of crossfits involvement being limited to accepting a fee from a box just to slap “crossfit” up there
No that's not what the quality variability means. Does you coach or trainer teach you progressive overload, periodization, training blocks, deloading, etc? Because if he is that's not CrossFit. That's just normal crosstraining
@@edwardelric717 nope. What I mean is that in some places you'll find coaches that, as a beginner, guide you towards increasing over time, starting with proper scaled movements and loads, focusing on learning the correct techniques first, while in other places you'll get thrown into the mix and pushed to load more than you should with little regards (or not enough attention) to the proper technique, which is obviously not only dangerous but also counterproductive.
@@dariomartinelli2172 and you have no idea what you are talking about. Great. CrossFit really brings the idiots out
Same here in Spain. I have been doing Crossfit for almost a year now and I have never seen anything that resembles the dumb shit shown in this video. I guess that depends on the quality of the gym you go to but I feel like even though this video can make some sense it is quite missinformative, it is terribly biased towards one side of the spectrum (the bad one) and just giving half truths in order to scare people away.
I'm a legitimate certified personal trainer. Many of my clients asked me about crossfit and I told them one single thing: "The concept is great for anyone with 3-4 years MINIMUM of proper lifting experience and are knowledgable about both their limits and appropriate form to stay safe. For anyone else, you're just going there to get a ride to the hospital." And after hearing the "founder"s words in this video? He should be held accountable for each and every injury sustained from anyone practicing crossfit. That man clearly didn't understand fitness in the gym, or the fact that there are training modalities that are SAFE while still maintaining the HIIT style that he tries to promote. The man is an egomaniac with a lust for money. AKA. It is a cult. Regardless of the trainer.
The founder doesn't even participate in it himself.
And it seems like most faddish things it brings out the extreme personalities aka Nuts.
Thank you for this comment. I was getting mixed reviews on whether or not crossfit would help with my strength. But I'll just stick to training my way at the gym.
I am also a "Legit" Strength Coach and Fitness Trainer and Natural Bodybuilder 20+ years.
Crossfit is dangerous and pointless... An accident waiting to happen basically. Everyone that I know personally that has tried it, has gotten injuries at some point. Mostly shoulder problems ~
My crossfit gym gives scaled versions of workouts. No one expects you to do a muscle up 3 months in. If you can’t do a pull up then do banded pull ups or trx rows. People use shitty crossfit gymd and shitty coaches to generalize the whole thing. My girlfriend has been going for 6 months and she had never been pushed to do a lift or motion beyond her comfort zone.
They tried to recruit me some years back, I had just lost like 50 pounds (not doing CrossFit) dudes was waaaay too into it, and the “community” of it all. I was like nah fam, when it’s time to get in shape, I don’t need no friends, I need self-discipline in eating first, and a regular workout routine.
Congrats on losing 50lbs! You didn't need to specify that it's not from CrossFit though, that is obvious from the fact that you got results 😂
I had a CrossFit guy go through a back workout with me once. I told him we were starting with 4 sets of 10 pull-ups, and he said, “that’s easy…” He started doing a bunch of swing-ups, and I was like, “bro, I said we are doing PULL-UPS!” 🤷♂️ When done correctly he couldn’t even do 5 pull-ups…🤦♂️
It depends on how specific they were with strict pull ups. Strict pull ups appear extremely rarely in competition. They’re harder to judge. Kipping isn’t forced. My first year and a half I refused to do Kipping. All I did was strict everything. I got tendinitis from all the pull up volume. Elbows are much happier now with some Kipping thrown in, and I can still do 20 strict pull ups.
@@jorob813 overdoing it on volume will lead to injuries regardless of what kind of lift you’re doing.
@@CamberFitness Yep and you shouldn’t expect someone who doesn’t normally train something to do it to your standards. SAID principle.
@@jorob813 yea, I can understand that; but swinging up isn’t a “pull-up.”
@@CamberFitness It’s a Kipping pull up. But in competitions or class programming. It just says pull up because there are multiple ways of getting your chin over the bar. Kipping, butterfly, strict.
It’s just to get reps done faster and keep you moving more consistently. Strict pull ups have a higher muscular fatigue cost. So the volume you can do is much more limited.
I wouldn’t expect someone to do muscle ups. Just because they can do pull ups. It’s a different skill. Kipping is pretty easy when you can do strict. Butterfly requires a lot more rhythm and timing.
The thing about cross-fit dismissing traditional workouts with lines like "do you ever see someone do this motion at a job site?" is that these exercises are designed to isolate muscle groups. Its not that you'll do that exact motion, but that you're targeting specific groups you will use during other motions. Ones that might not get a lot of strength build up without isolation. If your goal is to build strength you don't want to shortcut a workout.
The thing about the guy winning Ninja Warrior and how cross-fit helped him - is that Ninja Warrior only asks you get to the other side of the obstacle. If all you need to do is get your chin over the bar, then cross-fit has the right strategy, but if you're actually wanting to get stronger you're shooting yourself in the foot by doing butterfly pullups.
It's not true.
Like the bicyclists probably have the strongest legs in the world.
And they don't do that much lifting.
I am not into CrossFit, but I use the same approach.
Pure weight lifting & cardio, what people do at the gyms is awful.
1st. Those "CrossFit" exercises builds your stamina like nothing else.
No breaks between exercises give you enormous stamina & cardio, & without stamina you can't build strength.
* You also get stronger way quicker.
2nd. More functional exercises help you to develop the core muscles.
Core muscles give you the strength.
*
The real issue is the gym trainers.
They are just awful.
I actually had a gym trainer a while ago, and I just wasted money & have learned nothing.
Actually I was more in danger just listening to him.
Body weight exercises are the safest.
And healthiest.
People going for heavy weights is dangerous & totally unnecessary.
* Actually I think it slows down the progress, b/c lack of stamina & core muscles.
When you have stamina & core, you can easily start isolating the specific muscles without risking any trauma.
@@bestdjaf7499 as i see it, being strong doesn't really count for that much. Looking good is more important in the modern world, and traditional weight lifting is obviously superior for body building. Stamina has more use than strength, but even still you can build that up via cardio, that way you could have a passable level of stamina as well as an optimized physique.
@@dylanpennington1378
It depends on the cardio exercises.
I was running at the gym & have never achieved any real stamina.
So I just stopped running & dropped all the conventional cardio exercises.
So now I am more into "muscle fatigue".
It's the same cardio, if you remove the rest between the reps.
So I do bench press & pull-ups at the same time.
Your heat rate stays up, & stamina goes over the roof.
Also I spend only 30 min to finish a workout, with all the benefits of strength training & cardio.
*
Also my workout kind of organizes me.
Obviously I don't do it all the times. Some days I am creating a new program for myself. Other days I just want to try a new exercise....
But most people are just wondering around the gym & have to dedicate some days to cardio....
It's just doesn't work like that & takes way longer to get in shape.
@@bestdjaf7499 bicyclists train crazy heavy and are on crazy gear. just search for bicyclists lifting and you'll see the weights
@@joatanpereira4272 came here just to say that, this guy is delusional. Weightlifting is the base for every sport (with each sport target specific muscle groups more intensely), even race drivers do it so they can handle the g forces (especially on the neck) and force feedback of the wheel.
In 2012 I was on Utah's all state rugby team. After one of the practices the owner of the first cross for gym in Utah gave us a challenge to come try their circuit. He said none of us could crack the top 10 times because we don't train for actually useful motion. A group of us went. I forget the number but 4 or 5 of us got a top 10 score with one of us beating the record first try. We were told our times would be put on the board if we sign up for the gym. 🤣 Nah we are good.
If I may ask, what was the monthly membership cost? $120, $150?
What position did you play?
@@jak71113 I've heard of "premium" CrossFit gyms that charge upwards of $500
Shit that never happened for 500...
@@rugby.7 I played pos 2 (hooker) before that I was playing scrum half but my elbow didn't agree with that.
In fact there was already a form of training that was meant to make you strong and agile to "survive out there", it was called the natural method, was created by a french marine and ep teacher, the father of David Belle. David Belle created later the parkour following the principels of his father's training under the phrase of "etre fort per etre utile" which means to be strong to be useful. I find parkour a very rewarding sport in every aspect of physical condition when it is trained for real and not used to get views with sketchy stuff that could kill you
Natural method was invented by a man named Georges Hebert. It was the training method of the french army & emergency services up to ww2 where it fell off. It led to alot of modern military training methods like obstacle courses. Raymond Belle was a child in French occupied Vietnam before being returned to France before the Vietnam war. He was a legend among Paris firefighters for climbing buildings without equipment. His son David idolized him & trained his friends to try & emulate him, creating Parkour with a few other inspirations.
I agree with you though. I'd rather do Natural Method than Crossfit
Lol @ parkour as a sport
@@gutyourtrust prolly you have the wrong idea about parkour
My cousin got into this. When I saw all the fb posts looking for validation and then listened to her talk incessantly about how it was the ONLY way to work-out, I realized how controlling and physically sloppy crossfit is.
@yearn it’s like you didn’t even look at the title of the video? The people watching this don’t like CrossFit apparently no one does. Everyone doesn’t hate powerlifting or gold or fishing no one would give a shit if she posted “socially accepted” hobbies. That’s the whole point of the comment and video homie. Conformity
Si tu primo iria a un gym, pasaria igual, hablarian sobre esteroides, deficit y superavit
@@leralime5665 Cope. You’re using words you don’t even understand 😂
The Intermittent Fasters have become just as annoying, apparently in both Crossfit Club and Fasting Club the first two rules are "you must brag about it all the damn time."
One of my colleagues was exactly like that. She was a very nice girl before, but after crossfit everyone in our work started silencing her in social media and avoiding her on real life. It was exhausting listening her talk about crossfit as if it was a religion.
One of my buddies does crossfit every morning at 4am and he is absolutely shredded. The difference is he went in already knowing proper form for every exercise, and doesn't get involved with the group think mentally by simply going to the gym earlier. Mad respect for people like him
So he hit the gym normally?
You should tell your buddy he isn't doing crossfit.. he is just going to the gym and doing his own routine.
He doesn't do CrossFit then. He just works out properly.
That's the only type of people that can actually do CrossFit successfully.
Everyone has already said it but I'm also going to say it, that's literally going to the gym and doing normal workouts.
I was really into running and eventually triathlons and for many years we had this great community of runners. We would show up for runs and talk about each other's families, or food, the latest hot tv show, classes we were taking etc and would keep a pace you could talk at most days. Then around 2012 crossfit got popular around here and they started coming to group runs and all they talked about was crossfit. For us run club was a hobby that helped us stay fit, and if you were a pro or trying to be pro you could join A group, which was led by a former pro cyclist, but it never became anyone's personality. Crossfit seemed to attract those type of people who make their whole personality around something. It seriously ruined the whole community for most of us. Our training runs were never competitive, we saved that for the races, but crossfitters made even our fun runs into this competitive atmosphere. We always took the push the bar up approach to training (training below your limit, then every once in a while you push hard and push your limit bar up much like cycling ftp) but crossfit seemed to have this mentallity that every workout was go as hard as you can to win. I could keep going with examples of why we weren't fans of the crossfit crowd, but to really sum it up, every race I went to the finish was littered with guys coming up to the girls and starting the conversation off with, "I do crossfit".
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hear, hear!!! (trailrunner that saw that same thing.)
I did crossfire for about 6 months about two years ago, and for the first three months it was great and interesting but eventually my form began to slide to keep up with rep times and I strained my lower back through lack of form. It wasn't anything too serious but I saw I was sacrificing too much for this program and went back to more traditional programs and just incorporating a few cross fit elements here and there which I like a lot more.
But that is the exact issue. People want to go beyond there own capability. I do crossfit and I do not care to pick a lower weight than RX just to keep myself safe from really bad form. More people should do it. Yes crossfit is challenging yourself but not at all cost.
Cool! Have you ever tried crossfit?
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@endokrin7897 yeah yeah, I see what you did there😖😖😖
Sounds like you met Backy the spinal-damaged clown
@@gutsbadguy50 she wasn't very funny.😔
"we're doing this shit so we can go outside and survive better"
You live in the modern world in a developed country. Looking both ways before you cross the road and putting on your seatbelt are the fundamentals. Getting at least 30 minutes of cardio plus eating about two to three cups of veggies a day can also help you survive.
also, no one in the developing world is doing this. because even in their lives they don't have to. neither were these people's ancestors. this is all modern mayhem
The grizzly bear guy kills me. Like dude, if there's any kind of training to fend off a fucking half a ton feral animal there's no need for convincing people to go and pay 90 bucks a month for it.
@@MrAndresS1994 Honestly, if we really wanna come up with training to fight big cats and bears, we’re gonna need to make robots to safely train that with progressive overload 🤣 but then fuckin rabies is unfair 🤦🏻♂️
@@MrAndresS1994 That was a parody, but the original point stands. Unless you're training for competitive sport, it's all just for general health. You don't need to do squats to walk up a couple flights of stairs...
Aim higher
I've been a fitness guy for a couple decades now and I took a Crossfit class a few years back just to see if the things people said and the videos I'd seen had been true. The coaches there immediately had everyone start doing a barbell circuit with the first exercise being a clean & press... now, I can do them with the success of a practiced novice, but they didn't know that and the other people in the class definitely should not have been doing them. By the end of the class I came away having my pre-existing ideas about Crossfit confirmed.
Interesting, thanks!
The people that flock into crossfit are seldom kids. They're adults that think highly of themselves and need a new flashy hobby. You put them to practice clean and press and snatch technique with a broomstick for the first two weeks and they're never coming back lol! People want to skip the tutorial and go straight into it. Doesn't help that the instructors themselves are cut from the same cloth as well lol!
@@tatskamaster There are people who claim they can do 100 pull ups, but can't do one right.
I joined a crossfit gym because a friend told me about it I didn't know what it was and when I joined they put us in a beginner course and took our weight,body fat %, and height and give us a diet based off it and we stayed there for a month maybe. Before each session they would have is work on the movements individually and practice to see which weight we could do movements with correct form and if they see you doing it wrong they have you stop and go down in weight or do a different variation of the exercise
If you walked into my gym (CrossFit gym) you would have a polar opposite experience. The problem with CrossFit is that each gym can vary greatly.
Been powerlifting for 8 years and visited a CrossFit gym with my buddy and the first they did was max snatch. Let me tell you it was ugly and I declined to do them obviously because I never have before, and they kept trying to get me to do movements I actually couldn’t do at the time due to flexibility. It was very annoying/unnerving knowing how many people come through and will get thrown into these movements with no training/technique.
Did they suggest to use the barbell versus a PVC pipe? Based on your story it probably should have been "scaled" for you to use a PVC or do dumbell snatches at light weight. Idk those coaches in that when you went should not be coaches.
This is what happens when coaches are made coaches as a result of paying to take a class for it.
Honestly making someone do a max snatch even though they've never done one before is just an attempt to intimidate and injure people. "Haha I can do this and you got hurt." These people just suck. You did the right thing to decline them. If you wanna do them, you should get your technique right with a pvc pipe and empty bar first under supervision of a competent weightlifting trainer. I've been doing weightlifting almost a year now and I still kinda suck lol (70kg snatch and 95kg c&j), but at least I've been injury free.
Powerlifter here too. With a 500 DOTS, I went to bench on a drop in pass at a crossfit gym and they informed me that I didn't know how to train optimally and that crossfit is better for building strength in powerlifting than powerlifting training.
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any jackass that never lifts is introduced to snatches, boi one injury is all it takes to make yourself have a hard time in the gym
One of the negative/bad things about cross fit and what separates it from other 'sports' is that it is controlled by a single corporation who are the arbiters of what the sport is. That is really odd and I can't think of another sport where this is the case. Also there is no end goal as such. The events keep changing so it is very hard to judge and makes it complicated rather than fastest to run 100m for example.
Uuuh
NFL
NBA
MLB
NHL
???
They are controlled by a single corporation. I have to spell it out for you?
@@yourgooglemeister6745 those are sports league not sports. There is a world outside America
Ummm FIFA?
@@fica1137 This is a reasonable comparison. But fifa only really deals with the world cups there is also UEFA and then the individual country leagues are separate. You could have a football tournament in your garden or at a school and no one would complain. if you had a crossfit event without permission etc you could get sued. It sometimes seems like a cult at times with Dave Casto being in charge. Can you imagine you train all year for the Open and then he just randomly chooses to throw in a new event like he has done in the past with rope climbs or peg board climbs etc. I know it's the point of the sport but it's so weird that the events are secrets. Sure make them different every year but by keeping them a secret it just adds too much luck into who does well because they randomly can climb rope.
What a well balanced, intellectual critique. Nice one.
Yess really trustable information herw
I've been going to gym for a few months now and seeing some of these exercises are really painful, they look so ineffective or dangerous. I never enjoyed seeing people hurt themselves in the gym, this video made me cringe so much.
I have been a total year now in the gym but even still you can tell some of thesse are dangerous and dump especially the one where he fucking toss a bar to someone else
@@BuJammy any one who doesn't want to get a fatal injury would care
@@BuJammy lemme guess you do crossfit?
I joined a crossfit gym and honestly never seen anything like this video, mostly just see people perfect their form on the named movements, which I do find very impressive to see. There's also this physical therapist with a professional gymnastics background that's just pulling off the most crazy shit but I know him well enough that he knows what he's doing.
@@BuJammy why you here then bu jammy
"Crossfit is great cause you don't have to worry about exercising FOR a goal... Because exercising IS the goal." - Dom Mazzetti
Dom Mazetti: endless supply of quotes for every youtube fitness video on any topic LOL. Heres other: " I do not trust anything that does not involve bench press"
@@pablov1323 wait he actually says that?? what a clown 🤣🤣
and the fact that none of the crosfit cult members realize when he says "exercising is the goal" literally translate in to the fact that he's saying crosfit isn't for self improvement but rather it's a fashion just show how little braincells they have comparing even to juiced up lifters
Is lifting gae? Do u even lift? I see u a man of culture knowing Dom Mazzetti. Is his rent due soon?
@@GarethXL Check Dom Mazzetti dude u will have a good lauther. His yt channel is fun. He ain't a cross fitter but any means. He in my opinion is weight lifter and tries to have a laugh on YT.
The funny thing is, I actually think the idea of exercising being the goal is a good thing. Just not the way crossfit does it like it is a sport. Too many people focus on the goal, but not the process. Learning to enjoy the process is like self actualization for exercise.
Went to a beginner CrossFit class. They had us doing 10 sets of 12 barbell back squats, at 70% ORM, 30 second rests. Basic squat rack with no safety features at all. This was after a 45 min HIIT warmup. They then ended the session with a race consisting of a pyramid of burpees and kettle bell swings.
It's absolutely a recipe for injury. It was the first time I ever experienced a leg cramp in my life and in just glad it happened on the walk home and not with a bar on me.
I love the general idea of cross-fit (functional, cardio and strength training all combined) and plenty of personal trainers use cross-fit ideas in their programs. It isn't hard to work these same concepts into your own personal training (just go outside and aerate your own lawn by hand with a pick ax between wind sprints), without the craziness.
just do sprint
@Trump Is The Messiah yup, they also try to villainize normal resistive weight training by only ever pointing out single lifts then saying "look! that won't help you fight off a bear." A good lifting routine hits all the various muscle groups evenly and with an emphasis on good form, which means safety. Just sprinkle in some cardio on your lighter days or your upper-body days and you get the same if not better results in a safer environment.
What's funny is weight lifting was specifically designed to isolate and control movements of muscles for strength training. It turns out, the people who discovered weight lifting knew of it's inherent dangers to the human body that lifting heavy ass weights can cause. That's why form, safety, and spotters are stressed to all newbies. This crossfit stuff is silly. It's so sad so many people have been and are getting hurt.
100% agree. I see it as a way for people who do not want to put in the time and pain, to fool themselves. Those are not legit pull ups. If they had to do them legit, they would be doing 1/3rd what they are.
... its* inherent dangers (it's = it is) ...
@@einundsiebenziger5488 you got his point though. Grammar Nazi much?
@@sovereigntysoldier1303 I wouldn't even call those pull ups. It's basically wiggling yourself to the bar lol. But yeah, you can tell that those people don't actually have the endurance to perform pull-ups. I knew guys who only did either weightlifting and/or crossfit and I outdid them in pull-ups simply because I trained myself to do them correctly. Anyone can learn to do them correctly, but for some reason crossfitters only care about half assed movements as if that actually proves someone is an athlete.
Bro this guy puts in so much effort into each and every video. I really hope you blow up big time cause you deserve more attention
Agreed 100000% , it's like watching "vox explained " documentary but on fitness and exposure
definitely!
For now we can consider this channel a hidden gem. But not for long, I'm sure.
Also just super objective and nuanced, literally better than 90% of journalists nowadays.
I recently started at a small CrossFit gym. My first class both coaches walked through the movements with me using a training bar with no weight.
When it was time to do the workouts one coach had written down a special modified reduced work out just for me. Both coaches watched me while I did the workout, checked for form and fatigue and at one point told me to do less reps on my shoulder overhead press because I was tired and losing form. I think the biggest issue with CrossFit is that experiences vary SO wildly and finding a good one with good coaches seems so rare.
Crossfit has the right ethos on "overall fitness", buts needs to do the following:
1. Separate all the types of training into specialised sessions and not mush them all into a single big mess and just say "progress!"
2. Not prioritise speed of strict movements, anything that promotes injury should be taken out of a program and not excused as "makes you tougher".
3. Instructors need at least 2 years of coaching and some intermediate training qualification. What were they thinking with that 2 day requirement!?
4. Any wacky movement that provide absolutely no functional strength benefit need to be redirected to the circus.
5. The vomit shit needs to be cut. If its making you sick its not making you stronger.
Congratulations you've just discovered "Regular workouts"
This is just a gym.
You mean handstand walking obstacle courses have nothing to do with fitness?
That's what regular exercising at regular gym is.
I guess I just had a really lucky first CrossFit gym. #1 was already happening with regular sessions and advanced sessions. #2 was try if you might- most didn't want to attempt the bigger movements if they were not ready for them. #3- instructors were not 2 years licensed but they were super professional and never allowed us to sacrifice form. They vetted people in the 2 day requirement. #5 Nobody in our gym ever glorified vomiting. Maybe that's just a new thing? Idk, it's been 4 years.
7:00 yes, I've done that in construction quite a bit. You use those shoulder muscles to pick up a heavy object in each hand, especially if you have to set the objects down on something above floor level. I've some this with rolls of Romex wire while chucking it into a step van
You know the best way to have functional fitness? Is to get really strong at multiple compound movements (deadlift, bench press, ohp, squat, pull up, bent over row etc) and the foundation of strength you get from those very naturally carries over to being better at most other activities, technique aside.
I started doing CrossFit after years of thinking why was this so hyped. I found a great gym near my new apartment and signed up for a few introductory classes. No pressure to go super heavy or go hard, but getting the movements right. I think it’s all what you put into it. I use it for the functional fitness I need in my job as a firefighter paramedic.
Those "butterfly pull ups" is still a massive joke if an exercise
@@Zharina agreed, I do crossfit as off-season training for my other sports. I like the workout schemes but opt out of the cheat exercises like the pull-ups since they don't really help you unless you're specifically training for crossfit.
You get the movements right by lifting and progressing with a strength and hypertrophy program. Functional fitness is a myth.
@@Zharina to be able to do mutiple butterfly you have do be strong enough to do strict. So if go to a good crossfit box, they will not just let you do those butterfly first...
You need the strenght to preforme them safe....
@@amandamikaelsson7225 but normal pull-ups actually require less strength... you can see from the demonstration that they are using their momentum to swing back up. I tried some and besides almost slamming my jaw on the bar it was much easier.
"We're doing this so we can go outside and survive better."
THIS...that right there is why it's hated lol. Go have fun trying to survive better when you don't have friends and family to help you get/prepare the food you can't on your own because you slipped mutilple discs in your back and dislocated an elbow trying to clean and jerk 20kg over your 1RM after you just swam 500m...
He is the perfect example of a CrossFit DingDong. He thinks if you aren't constantly putting your health and mobility at risk in order to complete a "WOD" you aren't training hard enough. But I would be willing to bet anyone who did 18 months of normal periodized training where cardio and lifting are separate activities would not only outlift him on any of the big 3, but could also outrun him because they wouldn't have wonky knees and hips that are missing 90% of their cartilage.
I agree with everything u said only that you’re blaming CrossFit itself here
Bro dont diss crossfit, its how I built my back😳
obviously, thats why you have the world's smolest bacc ever
What back?
Wheres your bacc ?
King
Why did you dropkick that small child
In my military unit when Crossfit came out every person that tried it got injured! Our Commander issued a Unit wide ban on Crossfit for all members due to a 100% injury rate and he notified Higher Command in a push to ban it for military as a whole. The biggest issue was form is always sacrificed for speed and max numbers making safety for the individual a last priority.
Excellent video. I've been doing CrossFit for 9 years. I've had no injuries and have improved drastically in my physical abilities. I can understand why people think CrossFit is stupid. Some of the things I see online labelled as CrossFit are absolutely ridiculous. And there seems to be some truly terrible gyms out there. A 'Rhabdo' board is a great example of this.
There's no true CrossFit.
@@TheBcoolGuy there is, you just don’t know it.
@@dr.bendover-md I'm genuinely intersted in what crossfit is, what set of exercice constitute real crossfit for exemple
@@dr.bendover-md if you can open a gym with two days training, there definitely is NOT anything resembling a "true crossfit" That's a model that begs people to run whatever kind of ridiculous program they want. That's a feature of crossfit, not a bug.
@@bigrob966 I just love it how most anti-Crossfit people on here are desperately trying to prove their point using lame-ass logic.
Guy: “well, I’ve been practicing CrossFit safely for five years and never seen anyone getting injured”
Those people: “then it’s not CrossFit.”
I would quote Dom Mazzetti but here's the truth: Before anything, crossfit is a business. This should give you the idea.
And what the hell wightlifting and gym culture is??? I'm not defending crossifit but the same argument could be aplyed to wightlifting and powerlifting
@@nassimhaiouani3772 Yeah but neither of those are a brand owned by a single company
@@nassimhaiouani3772 If you don't see the difference, then you've no idea about the subject or you're just not paying attention. Either way you don't know what you're talking about.
I went to a CrossFit by my house, luckily enough, they weren’t fake and the trainer was pretty cool and I got to learn so much alongside others. We prioritized safety and proper form with some creative workouts that didn’t risk injuries. I was so surprised in learning CrossFit’s overall infamous reputation.
Just go to a real gym and make some real progress lmao
@@GKkingg That's what I'm saying, the progress my family had in the one by us was that of a real gym, my progress as a teen was legit and no one was practicing exercises wrong/unsafely. For one thing, they showed a real pull up than that kipping nonsense. Hence my shock for learning Crossfit's overall bad reputation.
Same. Mines full of a lot of parents just trying to be healthy. Bunch of friends just grinding and being safe.
Then ur not doing crossfit, maybe the place u workout is a crossfit gym but you're just doing normal, safe, and healthy exercises. Which is great.
@@ValeRay2 lmao ‘when I went to a CrossFit gym, I didn’t do CrossFit, so I was surprised to learn that CrossFit was bad when not doing CrossFit gave me real results’
Not to mention the trend (at least here in Utah) of infidelity's and swinging in CrossFit gyms. I didn't believe it till people (close to me) I know were affected by it and talked about this trend.
Bound to happen since every workout everyone takes their shirts off.
Comparing the class I took and what I've seen here, the class i did was amazing. The trainers are experienced, skilled and extremely helpful. We always prioritized form over speed and weight. There was a time a limit and a set of exercises that were supposed to be done, but if you couldn't do it properly they always encouraged you to do less while keeping thr form proper
This is a great point for anyone considering trying a CF gym. Any reputable gym will let you have a trial class. If they're not focused on form (and talking with current members about form), probably a bad place. All the gyms I've seen around my town though seem to be pretty good. I haven't heard really any complaints.
I get that there maybe bad CF gyms, but all the ones i visited had this same mindset, you will first practice form before you start lifting heavy weights. I really dont see the hate for it. Butterfly pullups is what everyone is hammering on about but let me tell you, those guys can for sure do strict pullups, easily.
@@wernercollins1319 Right. Train with strict pull-ups, develop the skill of butterfly pull-ups so you can do volume in a comp.
100% my experience as well. Kind of a straw man of the sport to combine all of the worst videos of idiots out there.
thank god for trainers like that, cuz the ones who let their clients use awful form to the point where they end up in the hospital ought to be sued
If the pullups weren't so sus and burpees didn't exist, I may actually be tempted to try CrossFit but in all honestly, I just prefer weight training and cardio, man just wants to be big.
Its this guy. I replied first. I get likes too right?
Completely agree. CrossFit can be good to an extent. All their beginner stuff is a decent mix of cardio and weights.
I guess it really depends on the place you go to, the crossfit gym I've been going to for the past couple months I've never seen anyone do kipping pull-ups or any of those weird cheat like movements. Mine is more of a mix of a hardcore calisthenic, cardio (rowing, and biking) and powerlifting gym (however only really lifting twice a week besides load bearing type exercises).
Then stop doing cardio
Do you even lift lol
Good video. Any properly executed exercise is better than none at all. At 7:00 Greg is demonstrating lateral raises and asks the crowd if any of them have done that on a job site . Well, never done the snatch, wall ball, pull ups of any kind, jump rope, box jumps, or overhead squats on a job site either. My opinion is that all properly performed exercise is functional. One might ask why Greg hates bodybuilders? His bias comes through fairly clearly.
I think strict lifting has its place and definitely does get you strong but there's room for exercises that help build muscle memory for stuff you do at work and in life. For example I don't always do deadlifts but every day I carry buckets filled with varied shifting weight. I don't always do push presses but every day at work I lift and carry 50lb grain sacks up and down stairs and put them on pallets taller than me. Box jumps seem unnecessary but it's the same mechanics needed to be able to climb around machinery. Battle ropes seem silly until you realize it's similar to the way firefighters throw hose and uses similar muscle groups.
Ultimately both types of workout are great. CrossFit just misses the mark on how to do a functional workout safely and properly.
Greg is obviously trying to be hyperbolic for effect but anyone who knows what CrossFit is really about just chuckles at such comparisons. I for myself lost some size when moving from the regular iron gym to CrossFit but my cardiovascular strength and overall fitness (heart and lungs) improved to such a dramatic degree that I decided to stay in the CrossFit world even though sometimes the exercises seem silly and random. The cult thing must be an American symptom, outside the US most CF gyms / communities are nothing like that.
Yeah, I dont know him but whatever He said clearly shows that He Hates Bodybuilders.
He needs to put down bodybuilding for people to buy into his business. His whole business idea is to rival other fitness sports. It's some BS rhetoric from a salesman. And stupid people fall for it. "Yeah, I guess crossfit is really better, thanks for the talk... Where do I sign up?"
@@dasdovian7785 bro, the best way to get better and stronger with shit you do at work, is gonna be the shit you do at work. Not crossfit. If you use a jackhammer all day you're gonna have massive and strong forearms. Sling bricks, you're gonna be better at that after a month of doing it. If you don't, then you don't do that movement enough and shouldn't worry about it.
I don't think there is anything inherently wrong with the idea of it. I went to a crossfit gym as a teen and our coach had the utmost emphasis on form and execution, he also played pro basketball in Europe so for athletes like myself it was great. The dude could snatch 400+ with incredible technique and he wanted all of us to have that before we even talked about going heavy. I believe it has more to do with the coaches rather than the sport itself, I had a headstart on lifts like the power clean and squat because he was so emphatic on form and building good basic on all movements. But we also didn't do those silly ass pullups so
I'd like to know where you got your knowledge to judge his technique as "incredible" from.
@@mambutuomalley2260 probably from watching the best olympic lifters in the game do it for years now? It's not hard to spot good form when you've been lifting for the better part of a decade
@@mambutuomalley2260 you don’t snatch 400 lbs without proper technique…find someone who can snatch 400 lbs who has poor technique and let us know
@@GreyTackett Really hard to believe you when you drop such a non-specific number, that would be an Olympic record in 4 of the 7 classes. Just say the guys name, if he was a pro athlete this all should be pretty easy to verify no?
@@jakecarpenter397 names Jacob Davis. He’s a MD now, played from in Norway. Bout 6’4 235. Never lifted competitively to my knowledge but I personally watched him hit 405 for 1 and saw him rep 315-365 a multitude of times
Because of kipping pull-ups...proper form is way more important than reps.
Just seeing those terrible movements, I’m amazed they’re not sued out of business from all the injuries they’ve brought about! It is insane! Almost like they did it as an experiment to see how far they can push the envelope of reckless workouts!
They likely have people sign waivers like most gyms so that they can't be sued.
@@thisismyyoutubecommentacco6302 They do, yes.
@@thisismyyoutubecommentacco6302 waivers are worthless, they can cover your ass when you do nothing wrong and something unexpected happens, but not when someone ends up hurt because of negligence.
I was ready to defend Crossfit but I actually agree with how dangerous the rep, competitive environment is. I’m heavy and new and joined a Crossfit class, I was puking after trying to catch up with the rest of the class. But I did appreciate how our coach taught me about the proper form. Thanks for this informative video.
If sport turns into pure competition it's no longer a sport. It's politics and the party is the strongest versus the weakest.
>crossfit coach
>proper form
@@durema9720 Thats sport. lol. its about getting better and surpass your old self or others. otherwise its just training. get lost crybaby. putting politics in everything
@@Yarn1x8757 Sport history literally was a political competition between Greeks. But don't get me wrong. There is nothing without healthy competition but politics always be politics and instead just turn into **** measuring.
I started CrossFit about 2 months ago. I am on the overweight side of the spectrum. So, here are my two cents:
1) Start at a gym where you are being monitored during classes
2) get the basics down i.e., form and technique. Lifting heavy comes after
3) don’t workout because of ego. Simple terms- workout for yourself and don’t compare the results with the person next to you
4) Don’t overdo it
I enjoy it. At least for some of it. There are times when I want to give up, but I am seeing some positive results such as shrinking waist size, bigger arms, and a community of friends.
Try it for a week and see if you like it. If you don’t, simply stick to what works for you. Some of the CrossFit movements are a little too wild. In such cases, always scale them to your fitness level and level of comfort.
Also: If the coach, other staff members, or even fellow members notice that something is not right for you and doesn't suggest a scaled or modified movement, LEAVE. I've been doing crossfit for almost 8 years; can't do a pull-up, not even a jumping pull up but there are many other challenging movements that I can do. And no coach has ever tried to force me into anything that would cause injury or is totally out of my capabilities.
@@gwennewell3232 Yes. That’s a big thing. Luckily, my CrossFit box does allow for scaled down and scaled up version depending on our level and challenge.
Ex-crossfitter here :D I was very lucky, and had a great gym, where the very first rule was that you are more important than the weights. One thing that I took away from my 2 years there, was my love for lifting weights. My biggest issue, though, was that it is expensive. Now I have all my weights at home, and I can go at my own pace, and make sure that my form is correct at all times :)
Thanks for a fantastic video!
its expensive if you buy new weights for each session :D
@@sratnatozmrde lol, luckily I already have everything at home, and I don't have to pay a monthly subscription to use my own weights :P
Yep I did the same thing. Bought a Rogue yoke to use as a yoke and a squat/bench rack as well as nice barbell and weights all for less than I would have spent on a year of crossfit membership dues. Plus I can use it whenever I want instead of having to wait for class time!
I'm not saying you're wrong, but if you had BAD form, and you didn't know how to learn better form, how would you know? You would just THINK you have good form, but nobody would be there to correct you if it's actually not good. Or if it's good, but could be better. I agree though, that there is a pretty low bar for becoming a CF coach and being responsible to correct form when need be.
@@sratnatozmrde If you buy a barbell and plates, that will cost a lot upfront but consider it an investment. It pays off down the road with savings in time and gym memberships in the future.
My old trainer used to work for a CrossFit gym, he essentially was a private trainer that had to give a sizable portion of his income to the gym owners. I used to work with him there and would see the CrossFit classes working out. My coach was adamant about form and safety issues over all. My form in any workout had to be perfect before he would let me do it with any kind of intensity. Every single person in the CrossFit class had pretty damn horrible form. Half of them had knee braces, wrist braces, ect. Also all the coaches except my private coach had little to no formal training or education in exercise science or other wise. Eventually the gym owners raised their rates and essentially asked my coach for over half his profit. He finally left and built his own small gym. I still see some of the people that used to workout at CrossFit and almost all of them have horrible chronic back, knee, shoulder or hip pain.
While the biggest positive of CrossFit is getting more people into fitness, I’m not a fan. There’s a good reason why physical therapists love partnering w/ CrossFit gyms, b/c they get a steady stream of injured patients from them.
The focus on completing a specific number of reps within a period of time is a perfect recipe for injury, as form will almost certainly break down in order to accomplish that goal. Almost everyone I know who has done CrossFit for any period of time has injured themselves directly from their participation in it (mostly shoulder & back injuries), as the competitive nature of the cult-like group fitness classes with time-based performance requirements has people ego lifting more often than not…..While we should all be checking our ego at the door if we want the safest & best results.
I don’t think it’s all bad, as the functional fitness components are valid (if done properly), and the fact that it inspires people to start exercising has great value too. However, there are many better ways for people to accomplish the same goals through safer & more conventional training methods. Solid video with some very fair points Josh! 👍
I thought you were saying “prolapse” every time you said “pull-ups” and didn’t realise until the end of the video
I bet you somebody has suffered a prolapse as a result of CrossFit
Close enough..
I came to CrossFit in my mid-30s and have been talked into attempting some really dodgy stuff at times. Fortunately, I had the experience and confidence to say "no" eventually and that is essential.
If you don't have a background in gymnastics or power lifting, then there are some serious risks.
Most important, don't let these clowns talk down to you. It's your body and your life.
yeah, gymnasts and powerlifter spend whole life to master all these movements while CFs think they master it after 5 session
Yup. The old gym I go to leans a little bit towards gymnastics. I’m not built for that. I had rotator cuff pain for a while and I immediately quit before it got worse. It really depends on the gym that you go to.
There is no justice on UA-cam if this channel doesn't get the biggest fitness channel. Keep up the professional editing and scripting.
It won’t be because it doesn’t post regularly enough. The videos are all amazing but to be biggest quantity is also needed. Not a slight at all
Derek and Greg carry the fitness industry by a long shot.
I used to work in a gym and the crossfit possie would do these big elaborate workouts with a whole bunch of equipment and not put it back - that's why I hate crossfit.
I can vouche for your comment!
*Broke:* I hate Crossfit because it is far more dangerous than conventional weightlifting and can lead to severe health issues
*Woke:* I hate Crossfit because it produces some of the worst gym douches the world has ever seen.
I started my journey with crossfit and I meet the most knowledgeable and fit coach that taught me almost all I know and gave me confidence to start powerlifting on my own, nonetheless some of their movements can be quite dangerous but some coaches (like mine) actually know proper form
I loved CrossFit. I agree with some of this. Depends on the coaching and the gym. I started CrossFit in 2009 with a awesome cast of coaches that supervised every move. I was never more in shape at 33. A few years later the owner starting coaching. Fittest person I’ve ever known. The competition and intensity the owner created forced the elite status in house. It was more about training for the games and less about being a gym for basic functional fitness for the average person.
I was getting obsessed. Being pushed more and more. CrossFit, running and swimming. I finally broke tearing my Achilles’ tendon on steep grade hill running in 2014. I’ve not been the same since. I’m not slamming CrossFit but damn it, buyer beware. Go with your gut, know your limits, stick to them and don’t let anyone push you past what you feel is doable. Be prepared to walk and find another gym if it’s not a right fit. 🤙
That's what my crossfit gym did and then I told him are you paying me monthly or am I paying your monthly bills. I forget who is the damn customer in this busienss. They backed off of me ever since and I scale when I see fit and never push me beyond my limits.
@@sonicmoj1 I tried that too. Coach wasn’t going to change his stripes. I’d get poor coaching if any at all if I modified the workout. I’m glad it worked for you.
Hope you are better now. Achilles takes time...
I did crossfit for just over a year, I focused on form over speed due to the potential health risks. not to say I didn't aim to do it fast I just prioritised form. I thought it was really good, I would reccomend it but I'd also reccomend seeking out a top notch crossfit gym! I'm currently into bodybuilding but also pilates and cycling as I find it a lot cheaper; this could be an alternative to crossfit, im not a professional mind I say this simply from personal experience (:
I joined a CrossFit class for a week (trial) years ago and promptly twisted my ankle on the 2mi run after following what I thought was the exercise class, but it equated to a warmup in CrossFit.
The people there wrapped up my ankle, helped me put on my shoe, and said let’s go.
“Let’s go” as in finish the run. It was around that time when I knew I wandered into the twilight zone.
sry to hear that you had such a bad experience. This surely is a bad example of a crossfit gym.
Imo injuries cannot be completely avoided, like rwisting an ankle while running. However, as a coach, I would never encourage anyone to finish a workout injured (rather the opposite). Training when something clearly hurts is the worst thing you can do.
@@stefHin injuries can absolutely be avoided wdym lol
This comment is harlarious. I hope to run to your car after day 1 of that.
@@Ilikeavocados123 they meant "injuries cannot be COMPLETELY avoided". You're picking on a strawman
That is what happens when you idolize Goggins the masochist. They congratulate hurting yourself. It's a masochist anonymous group
Crossfit guy - pulls up in prius, takes up half the gym with film equipment
Powerlifter - pulls up in work truck, hits 500 on bench, leaves gym
As somone who overtrained while not knowing the extent of my injuries i was training through, i have experienced first hand the benefits and failures of crossfit. To start, it does have its place and does bring a lot of joy to people who struggle with their fitness. The results come fast if you stay consistent. The problem is the nature of unnecessary reps/movesets and stress your body is put through. I think it depends a lot on your coach(s) understanding and flexibility in terms of setting you on the right pace. Just because someone next to you is doing reps at 95 does not mean you have to add the weight on. Repping to failure is not something your mind or body should be set up to try on a regular basis. Most people who try crossfit and dont like it usualy get injured within the first 2 workouts. Ive seen it a lot. You can get in shape without all the crazy non stop full body range activities. The coach to client ratio is also a big problem. A real coach can only truely focus on a small amount of people, but 1 coach per 15 means a lot of reps that are done incorrectly get brushed aside and not corrected or noticed until the person says their in pain.
This, im surprise about how many people were complaining that they made them do exercises that they still couldn’t do, because when i joined my crossfit box, they change some of the exercises of the wod for simple things that i could actually do. And they are always so focus on the form you do them too, always trying to not push you too much so you wont get hurt. For weightlifting the same, i started with the 7kg bar, and before every type of lift we all would try to improve our technic or practicing with the PVC first, then the bar alone and last adding weight little by little.
So idk how can boxes like the one people in here are complaining or the one from the clips of this video exist.
Like im so happy in my box, where my trainer actually care and knows what i can and cant do, and actually care that i wont get hurt
And btw, wtf were those exercises in this video? Most of them I’ve never seen…
In my box we mostly do traditional stuffs.
Im really shock with all those clowny clips
Crossfitter here. One of the first few things I was taught was to care about my form rather than the number of reps I can do in 30 seconds(rushing like a maniac is a super beginner thing to do and will lead to injury). Not a fan of kipping for pullups though, through and through traditional for me. It's unfortunate that we get a bad rep from shitty form videos. But I swear we're not all like that.
I want to believe you. In fact, I dare ask that if you care about your form, and doing pull-ups correctly, are you actually doing Crossfit? Honest question.
@@jaycue7641 if you have bad form you get injured
if you get injured you can’t get fast
Well yes. It's still circuit training or HITT. Just with proper technique.
Also my take here is bad form videos make for good UA-cam content and proper form is boring to look at. #teamboringalltheway
The same for me
Not all coaches are the same
Not all boxes/gyms are the same
In my gym they incentivize to focus on technique and never allow a beginner to try handstand and more advanced techniques
That’s why I’m focusing on technique first and haven’t started doing handstand properly until recently
Bad rep indeed
When I was doing Football Training during Highschool, the regimen we had was Crossfit (though I didn't realize that at the time). Go as fast as you can, go as hard as you can, non-stop. I've had times such as the Push and Jerk where my muscles would just suddenly give up on me due to exhaustion and I barely manage to roll it down my chest onto the ground.
I remember one very specific incident. A Sophomore was doing Cleans as fast as possible. Normally you try to take more time, but the Coaches wanted more speed. He brought the bar up too fast, lost his balance, and fell backwards. The problem is that we did Cleans and Push and Jerk on a 3 inch high large raised platform. They were extremely lucky to have someone behind them to help, because their neck ended up right over the end of this change in height and the bar would've 100% crushed their windpipe completely.
I am in full support of increasing cardio. Figuring out ways to really get your body moving... but not while you're lifting weights. Period. You shouldn't be trying to do 20 reps of Cleans as fast as possible. 20 perfect slow reps are far better than 19 perfected fast reps and 1 bad rep. In fact, going slower is *better* for your workout. The whole point of lifting weights is to train your muscles. Why should I care if you do 50 swinging pullups if me doing 10 slow ones work my muscles out way more? If your goal is to be athletic, do athletic training outside of the gym.
This is gold. The purpose of whatever you do is to become better and better. If you wanna be good at soccer, you practice the agility drills and ball control and displacement. At another time, you go to the gym to strengthen your body, which makes you a more complete footballer.
I think a balanced approach works best for me. Doing Crossfit HITT workouts but sticking to good form Olympic lifts and real pullups avoids the issues when coupled with a solid dumbbell workout routine at the gym.
At that point, you're just doing good functional training. People have done that since forever, crossfit doesn't have a monopoly there.
@@davorzdralo8000 exactly! 😉
I went to a crossfit gym once and people were using good form and they were incredibly fit. I'm still not a massive crossfit fan because I dont enjoy it but I could see why others did. They also had way better community than any gym i've ever seen
Why tf do you need a community? In a gym of all places? Lmao. Only company i need in a gym is my own.
@@alexworm1707 facts ear buds and I’m in
@@alexworm1707 I guess some humans are social beings and some love being in solitude
@@alexworm1707 yeah how dare people be friendly and support eachother. Encouragement is bad. You are such a real man. Your parents must be proud 👍
@@samjackson107 why do you need your parents to be proud of you?
I did crossfit at two good gyms for a little more than a year before the pandemic, and I enjoyed it. But I also learnt not all trainers know what they're doing, even if they're fit. I think the key is to research your crossfit providers well, and learn to go at your own pace. Respect your weight limits and focus on form, regardless of peer pressure.
Same goes for any kind of sport/discipline with the “not all trainers know what they’re doing, even if they’re fit”. Being fit shouldn’t give anyone more credibility
I always thought crossfit was weights , swim , run and cycle so you build a package and I didn't realise it actually isn't and it's nuts 😂
Yeah, that was actually my image too
Well a lot of what is displayed here is either people screwing around doing dumb crap for fun or the competitive piece of it. This is not the experience you will get as a regular person. Crossfit is like anything if you have a good coach it will be relatively safe and it is as dangerous as you choose to make it.
CrossFit was fun when it first came out in the early 2000s. I joined the first ever “box” in my city in 2005 and we did a lot of fun, truly varied workouts. It was with firefighters, leo and military folks as well as a few current or former pro athletes and fighters. It slowly changed into a thing for grandmas or random, jacked dudes who had no athletic abilities. As this video explains, injuries went up with more gyms in the market, new people with bad technique and poor coaching. All that said, there are still good folks out there and it was the fittest, fastest and strongest I ever was from 2003 to 2010.
Pleasantly unbiased and good video overall.
Here are my two cents (words taken from Jordan Feigenbaum / Austin Baraki - Barbell medicine): "We live in a world were the leading cause of death are heart disease. Maybe we should stop fighting over who has the best workout routine and celebrate that there are multiple options that get people off their sofa"
The only thing that it took for me to avoid this like the plague is the extremely bad form most of them have.
While I’ve been a big fan circuit routines in general (because of how time efficient it is), I really prefer to focus mostly on good form (more like impeccable form) within the 8 to 15 rep range rather than doing a super high rep and super fast routine that will injure me in no time…
Also it happens that almost every person who I knew was into CrossFit only talked about that
Exactly. If good form is not one of the key foundations of any training routine regardless of the sport or fitness type, IMO it is wrong off the bat.
im new to crossfit, and i will admit, most of the things in this video i haven't seen. we are generally comprised of classes no bigger than 16, and the trainers, or coaches - whatever you want to call them, will constantly walk by and adjust your form to make sure you don't injure yourself. you even go through a phase called Roots where they teach you the basics, figure out your goals and then guide you from there. some places are probably just better than others.
Exactly this. Crossfit gets a bad rep by people doing complete fails or doing stupid exercises with no supervision
Crossfitter here too. This video is wayyyyy over exaggerated for views
@Amy Marie are the pullups exaggerated too? Do you guys actually fo proper pullups.
@@safs3098 yes they definitely are exaggerated. Not many people do the butterfly pull ups and if you do it’s because you are very well trained. At my gym you aren’t even allowed to kip a pull up until you have a strict pull up
@@amymarieca I can do 200+ Butterfly pullups because theyre just easy and hearting your body. Crossfit is shit in any ways of bodybuilding. But i see, we lost you to Crossfit idiots. Just go to the gym und train normaly, without harming yourself.
As someone who does crossfit this is hilarious. I'm fortunate i belong to a gym where were just there to work out. And they teach proper forms. Its always form before intensity. Theres no discrimination against other types of workouts, were just there to work out, and try to be fit.
I got Arthritis in my shoulder and knees at the age of 28. This is a combination of working out wrong/to much and genetic predisposition. When I see young people focusing on gains of muscles mass like its the only thing that matters, i wish they would know at what cost this comes long term.
Exactly how did you work out wrong/too much? I'm doing three days a week currently, and I try to limit my risk of injury but it is sometimes hard to strike the balance between that and aiming for strength. And i can't guarantee that at some point it won't have consequences in the future.
@@Kyuubiboy321 get a good coach
I think it is more important to look at the individual gym. I have a CrossFit near me and I personally don’t go often but I’ve been a couple times and seen that it focuses more on form and safety than the weight.
Once had a friend who was a gym guy that would not talk much about what he was doing start talking non stop about it once he joined crossfit. He became truly unbearable to be around
I did CrossFit for two weeks and stopped. They still text me to remind me I have two weeks of classes left. I’ve thought about doing 1 every week but it felt like such a cult and so unsafe with how many reps. Also I’m trying to build large muscles fast, not burn all my calories off and be too lean.
No such thing as large muscles fast with that said normal bodybuilding with progression overload should do also protein intake and sleep should also be factored in. Good luck.
The wisdom of Dom Mazzetti will never let you down.
That last part Is definitely true, the best workout is the one that you stick to long term, i workout at home despite the gym having better equipment, it keeps me very consistent
I've never heard about crossfit before, but just from the intro my first reaction was "this is very dangerous". Crossfit is trying to push for the balance between strenght and agile. Without proper technical training this have devestating consequenses.
In 8 years never had an injury as a result of the crossfit activities, but the box always focused on correct form . Learnt a lot.
The gyms I went too were the same. My current one is fantastic.
as an 80 yr.old whose been a teacher, coach, competitior, personal trainer with degrees in exercise and sport science , i would NEVER send anyone to one of these places......... it will go the way of most fads. i cringe when i see what happens in a lot of these gyms.
Thanks for the info!
Like everything about modern gym classes, it's just about making money, keeping people unhealthy so they keep coming back.
“The best workout is the one you actually do long-term”. I think that’s the key here.
Sure, there’s some odd things about crossfit, but I’d much rather have my patients come in with a minor lifting injury than the terrible health consequences of a sedentary lifestyle.
Great video, Josh!
Minor? Dropping a fucking 100kg bar on your neck?
Rhabdo is fucking minor? Gtfo
@@ubcroel4022 that’s not happening with 99.99% of people that do crossfit. There’s maybe a couple cases a year that make a big splash on social media, making it seem more common than it is
@@ubcroel4022 everyone gets rhabdo?
@@pocnit everyone drops bars on their heads?
I lift heavy weights at the gym, run, muay thai, and BJJ. I believe that combination gets me more "cross" fit than the ones who actually train it.
How do you know someone does CrossFit? They will tell you when you first meet them.
i’ve always been surrounded by good crossfit gyms with extremely good trainers so i’ve only ever seen good come from crossfit. i can definitely see how horrible it could be with bad trainers and don’t teach right
my first and last experience with crossfit was almost getting scamed at one crossfit presentation ive been invited to. they basicaly wanted you to chase an impossible fitness objective doing a potentialy dangerous BS and paying them for it at the same time. so instead i started doing alot of pull-ups and push-ups, eating and sleeping properly and got from skinny fat to ripped in about 3 months. if people stoped looking for a magical type of workout or a diet and just started exercising diligently, they would have been ripped by now too. some will get there faster, some slower, but we are all going to get there eventually
I was really fat, so I started doing wall push ups and pull ups. I could do the real ones but my joints couldn't handle it.
I started BJJ, lost 20kg, and now I can do 2 perfect form pull ups in a bar! It may seem little but for me it was amazing.
You hinted at the best part of CrossFit while bashing it. The best way to get physically fit is through consistency. The class and competition aspects make it so that you actually want to go to the gym and get exercise in every day as opposed to going to a normal gym and doing the same splits every week. As long as you have good coaches that can adjust things to peoples abilities so they aren’t hurting themselves, it can be a really useful way of getting fit for those that get burned out easily on the regular gym life
I think it just depends on the gym and on the coach. I've done CrossFit for 4 years in my past and I memorized it as good environment, helpful and good coaches and working out with a group which was hella-easier than training alone (especially that it was my first try to change my lifestyle to be healthier). Even though I've not became shredded nor thin (but it wasn't fault of the CF, I just didn't care about the diet at the time, didn't know how important it is) I built strength and learnt how to safely do exercises, even the complex ones. So yeah, butterfly/kipping pull-up is way easier than a strict one, but still an exercise - just different
As an old guy, my joints can only take so much, and it looks like Crossfit is brutal on your joints. I think keeping your cardio and resistance training separate is much more sustainable and efficient. I used to go to a local gym to lift, then it turned into a Crossfit gym and all the regular equipment was pushed into the corner and I had to climb over equipment to get to the benches and racks. I quit going there.