"Puts 12 LFOs, resonator, 10.5 reverbs, draw a scheme of effect chains that looks like road map of highways in India" -I know it's basic... 😂 Beautifull video! You so-so-so right about dub techno being a shield against intrusive world around. This music litterally saved my life last year when i thought i can't make through hard times. Even inspired to learn a daw and make couple of ambient tracks... but i never was able to wrap my head around how you make EXACTLY dub techno. You channel inspired me to try again. Thank you!
Your comment truly made my day! I think dub techno has had a similar impact on me, which might explain my deep obsession with it. Thank you for sharing that with me :)
You are a real master of your craft and a huge gift for the dub techno music tutorial scene! Thank you so much for the clean way of presenting all the steps and that you provide your project files, that makes dissecting and learning what is going on so much easier. I usually use FL Studio since there the routing in the Patcher environment (similar to Bitwigs Grid) is so flexible, but the sounds you get from knowing how to set up the synths and a rather simple effect chain are simply amazing. All the effects and subtle randomizations make it sound like you have field recordings mixed in when in fact they are not, and that is the first time I noticed this. I listen to artists like Echospace quite often and was wondering what their original samples might have been, but it never occured to me that many of these sounds might be the result of surprising effects from modulating everything organically since some of your effects sound really close to theirs.
Thank you for the heartfelt message! I’m glad the video resonated with you. What you noticed about the subtle randomizations mimicking field recordings is a key aspect of the genre's organic charm. It’s fascinating how organic and complex sounds can emerge from relatively straightforward setups, especially when you let the effects breathe and interact with each other naturally. That’s part of what makes this genre (and several others) so captivating: the unpredictability within the process. The surprising part is often how minimal the starting points can be. But there’s always more than one way to approach the sound, and I’m excited to share other techniques in future videos. Stay safe!
I believe this is the best dub techno tutorial on UA-cam. It explains the philosophy behind dub techno, rather than focusing on how to create a specific sound or how to build a track from A to Z like most other tutorials. This video explains how the foundation is built, how the elements fit together, and what kind of feeling and emotion each type of sound should convey to the listener. It's independent of the tools used to create it, whether it's Ableton or a drum machine; what's important is understanding the concept it expresses. Compliments on the excellent execution of this video!
Thanks a ton for the kind words! Really happy to hear you got the deeper vibe I was aiming for. It's all about the feeling, not just the gear, right? Appreciate the support!
I've watched a lot of similar videos, but this one really broke through for me. It helped me really understand the philosophy behind the practical steps that most creators focus on - thanks!
You almost made me cry at the end... Muchísimas gracias hermano! This has helped me a lot with my decisions forward, I'm even considering the good side of dawbased music. Much respect and appreciation from Montevideo Uruguay
Hey, friend! I'm truly touched by your kind words. It makes me so happy to hear that the video has been helpful. Your support keeps me going. So, thanks a million for your interest-stay tuned, new content is definitely on the way!
Easily one of the best produced music production vids I've ever seen. You gained a sub in the first 15 seconds. In regards to atmosphere, I would love an entire vid if you haven't already made one! I've been wanting to explore the intersection between drone music and techno, more specifically the idea of danceable space independent of drums, which you all but touched on with the "backcloth" framework. Can't wait for the next one!
Absolutely amazing video. You have broken down the sound I have been trying to get for so long in such a clear way. I could get bit of it, I could do decent dub stabs, but what you have taught me is that my "background" was lacking and I was using noise too simply and although I was using randomness, I wasn't using enough. I will buy your book. How lucky are you!? You get to study dub techno academically and can make a living out of what you love. I'm also and academic. I started listening to dub techno because when I am writing I need to seal myself off from the world around me - your "orphic" comments really resonated with me. Unfortunately, or fortunately, depending on who you look at it, over time, I started listening carefully to "orphic" Dub Techno and trying to work out how it is made and have a go at making it myself. This broke the spell of Dub techno as a facilitator to writing - if I listen when writing now, I start analysing it. These days, when writing, I just listen to brown noise. I prefer it to white, pink, etc., it is more soothing. You know you are down some kind of rabbit hole when you have a favourite spectral balance for the noise you listen to...
Thank you for such a thoughtful and reflective comment! It’s incredible to hear how deeply dub techno has influenced your creative process, even if it has shifted from a tool for focus to something that now pulls you into the details of the sound. I think that’s part of the genre’s magic-it has this way of revealing itself the more you listen, like peeling back layers you didn’t even realize were there. I totally get what you’re saying about using noise and randomness. There’s something very compelling about pushing the limits of what we define as ‘background’ and seeing how far you can take it without losing the essence of the track. I’m thrilled that the video gave you a new perspective on this! It sounds like you're already deep into experimenting. As for the noise you listen to while writing it’s fascinating how each has its own mood and texture. Sometimes, finding that perfect noise can feel like discovering a new frequency that syncs up with your thoughts, helping you to focus or drift into a different mental space. Looking forward to hearing how your journey with dub techno evolves!
Thank you! In few weeks I learned more from your book and videos than from months watching other tutorials and still not being able to achieve this sound. Really appreciate your thorough academic approach!
Thank you so much for the kind words and support! I'm delighted to hear that the book and videos have been helpful. Knowing that the more in-depth, academic approach resonates and makes a difference is always rewarding. I truly believe that understanding the theory and philosophy behind the sound is just as important as the technical aspects, and it's great to see that it's coming together for you. I’m excited to see where you take this newfound knowledge and how your sound will evolve from here. If you ever feel like sharing what you create, I’d love to hear it!
A huge compliment, thank you! I’m sure there are plenty of other great channels out there adding value, but I’m just focused on doing my best and sharing what I can. My main goal is to spark some creative instincts in viewers-just like the content I used to enjoy for years. So, I am glad it resonated with you. Hope to see you there when it’s recognised by many!
Everything you’ve shared is incredibly valuable and priceless. Thank you for presenting this information to us with such care. You’re putting in a lot of hard work, and I genuinely believe you’re going to achieve remarkable things. It’s exciting to know you and witness the incredible work you’re doing. Sevgilerle.
Great to hear some positive feedback from an old friend and fellow producer. Really appreciate the kind words! There's plenty more to come, so stay tuned 🙌
This right in alignment for me, but more purely the pure dub component. I'm only halfway thru your vid, but don't forget adding healthy doses of live passes of effect send,s mutes, fader moves, effect manipulation, etc... recorded back to the DAW in this case either with controller surfaces or hardware. Doesn't have to be fancy gear, sometimes the cheaper and dirtier the better.
Absolutely! You’ve hit the nail on the head-live passes of effect manipulation, fader rides, and those spontaneous moves are where a lot of the magic happens in dub. In my eyes, it’s all about that human touch, bringing a real-time feel to the sound that’s hard to replicate. And you’re right, it doesn’t always take fancy gear to get there. Sometimes the raw, lo-fi elements add even more character to the mix. I appreciate your insight-sounds like you’ve got a solid handle on the dub component. Keep those textures coming!
@@wostmusic8482 Thank you. New content will definitely come. Unfortunately, I don’t currently have plans to translate the book, as it has only just started selling. Maybe in the future-why not? Translation is a tough job, man.
I am coming from a software engineering background trying to learn music, and I greatly appreciate your approach not just teaching the technical stuff, but also the theory, the fundamentals, and how it glues everything together to create these amazing sounds. I am reading the book right now and it's amazing, thank you!
Your enthusiasm for learning is inspiring. I'm delighted that you're finding value in the book! It's heartening to see interdisciplinary inspiration taking shape.
Glad the algorithm worked its magic! Even if you’re not into making music, it’s cool that it caught your interest. If you ever want to explore more, you know where to find me. Cheers!🎶
Subbed. Nice work! Note, this type of analysis of hyper genre-fying what you make is useful insofar as you’re trying to make music that falls in line with an established style. Not trying to invent a new style of your own. This works for most people, who prefer to be easily pegged to an already existing style/genre with a pre-existing tribe of fans. Whereas, the kind of artists (like Moritz) who invented these genres, were just being themselves following their own interests (in his case, re-synthesizing what he loved about Jamaican music in his own way). Not judging here and saying one approach is better for people to pursue. Just saying that following an existing genre is a choice, and has vast repercussions on how your music (and you) will be perceived.
Yes! I completely understand and agree with your point, especially regarding the role of genre invention and originality. However, my focus wasn't to highlight that aspect this time. In fact, I believe dub techno is quite free compared to other more "fixed" genres, particularly in its DSP stages. There's a lot of room to explore and manipulate sound in ways that often break conventional molds. While the invention of genres is a profound topic, the structured aesthetic of an established genre like dub techno can also be incredibly deep when you consider how it resonates with both the general audience and niche listeners. For me, dub techno has always been a profound source of inspiration, not just in terms of its sound but in how it encourages one to think about the phenomenon of "sound" itself. My goal has always been to spread that inspiration. Dub techno has been a galaxy of ideas, and I chose it as a foundation to express my thoughts on a variety of issues. Once again, I appreciate the time you took to share your insights, and I completely see where you're coming from. Thanks for subscribing!
@bahadirhankocer I'm a producer, I have mi little studio and some live sets , I like to improvise music. For me This is gold and a new way to understand so many thing, beyond production skills. It's about love to the genere and the craft to make this amazing music. (Sorry about grammar, not English native 😅)
There are those people, that tell you how you do things ... but thats half the equasion at best. I need to know why, then i know my way how ... thank you sir. This is gold.
Hey, appreciated! I always value the question "why" because, in my eyes, it illuminates the creative workflow and helps you take more solid steps without getting lost in the technical vortex. This is why I chose to structure my videography and narration in this format. It reflects the kind of content I consume myself on my creative journey as a music producer and sound designer. I believe that by sharing not just the technical "how", but also the underlying reasons and ideas, I can offer a more meaningful experience for others following similar paths.
Beautiful video, thank you so much. I've been starting to experiment with dub techno and been struggling to get the chords right! About to hop back in on a new project and integrate some of these ideas 🙏
@@robfarrimond4586 Thanks so much and welcome aboard. I’m happy that you got inspired. Dub techno chords are tricky but it's really all in how you balance the delay and reverb and use modulations sparingly to create that deep texture. Do more and if you have any questions please feel free to ask.
Hello friend, what a great video, and what a great ability to inform, you are a great UA-camr. Could you make some more videos on how to make dub techno with other vsts that are not native to ableton. thank you. all the best
Hey, mate! Thank you so much for your kind words. Appreciated. Yes, there will definitely be more content on dub techno, diving deeper into the bass, percussions, modulation paradigms, arrangement approaches, history and more. Stay tuned for upcoming videos. All the best to you as well!
That’s amazing to hear! Inspiring others to create is exactly why I make these videos. Stoked that it sparked something new for you. Keep the creativity flowing 🙌
Your kind words mean a lot. I'm passionate about making music education accessible and enjoyable, so it's rewarding to know that my efforts are appreciated.
Damn, that's a great overview. Subscribed. I've been experimenting lately with another technique to deliberately use an out of sync bassline under dramatically modulated slow evolving chord structures. Currently using the Torso S4 for that.
Hey there! I've been planning to create a lot of content lately, focusing on shorter but more impactful pieces. I’ve opened a discussion in the UA-cam community-feel free to share your ideas there! I’ll compile a list and create content that best fits to you.
I feel like with this video you’ve laid claim to the title high priest of dub techno. Also look forward to checking out your book - I’m guessing it will make a worthy addendum / chronological successor to what I consider the original (roots) dub bible by Michael Veal.
Thanks for the kind words! Veal's "Dub: Soundscapes and Shattered Songs in Jamaican Reggae" was a huge inspiration for the dub history section in my book. I hope you'll find my exploration of this topic to be a worthy addition to the conversation.
Thanks, bud! The main differences between Ableton Live Standard and Suite are the lack of Max for Live in Standard, which limits your ability to create custom tools, and the smaller library of instruments and effects compared to Suite. So, if your goal is to be creative in DSP, you might need Suite.
Thanks! Your question is fascinating and it deserves a proper answer because it touches on both technical and philosophical dimensions of dub techno. Let’s start with the technical layer. You’re absolutely right-most club sound systems are mono, which can affect how a dub techno track translates spatially. In stereo, dub techno often relies on wide delays, reverbs, and panning effects to create a sense of depth and atmosphere. This spatial design is central to the genre’s aesthetic. However, in a mono system, these stereo elements collapse, which means that your mix must be carefully balanced to ensure that important frequencies aren't lost or masked when played in mono. Mixing with mono compatibility in mind is crucial for preserving the clarity and impact of the music, particularly in club settings where bass-heavy sound systems dominate. But beyond the technical considerations, there’s a more philosophical layer here. The Orphic experience of dub techno, as I explored in my thesis, refers to the genre’s ability to transport listeners into a meditative, isolated state, often in contrast to the communal energy of club environments. In clubs, where sound is shared by the collective, the focus shifts from the intimate, detailed listening experience one might have with headphones in a quiet setting to a more immersive, physical engagement with sound. Dub techno’s deep bass and hypnotic rhythms are still effective in a club context, but the Orphic isolation-where listeners feel as though they’re enveloped in sound and space-can be diminished without stereo spatialization. Ultimately, for the full Orphic experience of dub techno, headphones and a controlled, isolated environment provide the most depth and nuance. That said, a well-mixed mono track can still evoke the atmospheric essence of dub techno in a club, but the emotional and spatial immersion might not be as intense. Both experiences-individual and communal-have their own unique qualities, and that duality is part of what makes dub techno so fascinating.
I'm playing dub techno in the clubs here. Not too often, but once every other month or so. Unfortunately, the systems are stereo since I helped set them up. My comment is to simply encourage you to explore these questions yourself when you have them. I have this same issue too. Quick to search for an answer rather than just run the experiment myself. Assuming you have a DAW, monitor controller, mixer, or some type of DSP on your computer output, then simply cue up a playlist of a variety of dub techno and then play with the mono switch. I've been doing this more lately. I'm finding that most of the music I'm collecting is still completely acceptable and enjoyable in mono. It just isn't immersive. Without the stereo width, the immersion is gone. I would argue with our author, though, in his suggestion of headphones being ideal. Maybe he doesn't mean that... but in my experience, I need a room of some kind and nothing touching my ears to truly be immersed. Even if the room resonance is messing up the response. This is why I'm spending so much time and effort on acoustic treatment and DSP correction to get the best of both.
I'd love to buy the book for $10-15, but it costs $58 plus shipping and the only review is saying that the QR codes don't work. Maybe bring out a print on demand cheap paperback and address the qr code issue? You'd make more sales I recon. Thanks for your consideration!
Hey! Thank you so much for your feedback and for considering my book. I really appreciate your interest. I understand your concern about the price, and while it may seem high, it reflects the time and effort put into creating a comprehensive work on dub techno, one of the few books published on the genre. Thank you also for pointing out the issue with the QR codes. I’m deeply sorry for the inconvenience. I’ve opened a support ticket with the platform that generated the codes (Me-QR) and am actively working to resolve the issue. If the problem isn’t resolved within the next two days, I will be updating the content on Amazon to address this directly. Once it’s sorted out, I will certainly provide an update. Unfortunately, the one review on Amazon reflects this problem, which I am eager to fix as quickly as possible. However, I've received positive feedback from readers around the globe, but none of them have left reviews on Amazon, which affects the overall impression there. I believe time will correct this false image.
@@bahadirhankocer thank you for your answers. I respect your decision to price the book where you did, while I don't agree that it is a smart business move. You're losing out on sales, by outpricing yourself out of the market. As a bottom line, I assume you make less revenue than you could with a reasonable price. In addition to the business side, I am taken aback that you know so much about the origins of electronic music as a counter culture, and consciously outprice low income fans, musicians, and enthusiasts. I urge you to reconsider.
Hey! No worries. Please know that I value all feedback. Thanks again for your input. Just for your information, the QR codes have been renewed and are now working properly.
I am also wanting to purchase but hesitating on price. Just wanted to chime in. I've no idea what it should cost, but I just know I've never paid that much for a book that wasn't forced by college curriculum. For me, I've spent a decade researching this stuff, so on one hand I'm super keen to see what I might have missed and on the other, I'm worried I'll spend that money to find what I already know. Maybe the description could elaborate more? Or maybe what's needed is some good back cover reviews by notable figures speaking to the value... or... a loss-leader style price to simply draw people to impulse buy and give it a shot. I may cave and spend the bucks, at that point I'll do my best to give an honest review for you on Amazon. Regardless, cheers!
Hi! Sorry for the late response. Just click the link and hit play. Let me know and I'll explain my take on the bass. A true scientific approach: ua-cam.com/video/bRmPK3d9Cmw/v-deo.htmlsi=N89I7jCMivtghq43
The project added in the description. Thank for the heads up! As for Udemy, if you're new to DSP tools, it's a good 101 course. Besides that, there are short lectures on the philosophy and history of noise. You can also access the course as a member on UA-cam.
Thanks for the feedback! Polyrhythms are definitely a powerful tool for creating interesting and complex grooves. I'll keep that in mind for future tracks.
Agreed! The most prominent element between the two is the concept of the drone. Similar to the "backcloth" I explained, drone instruments like the Tanpura in Raga serve a similar purpose: to create a center for other instruments to follow and establish a "fluid space" where they can merge and move in harmony. When I consider the atmospheric elements in various electronic music genres, we tend to use sustained sounds that are slightly modulated by pitch, timbre, and so on. From an academic standpoint, this relationship between drones in Raga and atmosphere in dub techno would require more research and methodological analysis. However, it remains a very creative hypothesis.
That's a great point! It's interesting how dub techno has managed to capture the attention of so many academics. Perhaps its blend of sonic experimentation, cultural significance, and subversive nature makes it a particularly fertile ground for academic inquiry. However, it's worth noting that other genres have also intrigued dozens of academics. What might make dub techno stand out is its niche status. Being a less mainstream genre, it often offers a unique and unexplored landscape that can be particularly appealing to academics seeking new and challenging subject matter. What do you think?
Great question! To start, some of the ideas in this video are drawn from discussions in my book. You know how, in academic settings, discussions are often explored through theories. The concept of the Orphic experience, for instance, was one I developed based on Mack Hagood's idea of Orphic media. Hagood defines Orphic media as a kind of escape, a way for the user to shut out the demands of market capitalism. A classic example would be wearing headphones in a shopping mall to block out the background music and create your own sonic space. This is what we call sonic self-control. So, while it may sound a bit strange at first, Hagood’s book Hush provides some serious analysis on neoliberalism and market capitalism. Just knowing that this concept comes from there will help you get the bigger picture.
It appears I was taking too much of a descriptivist approach to dub techno. Perhaps due to lack of critical listening. As primarily a player of instruments, I shall endeavor to take as much of this semi-experimentalist approach as possible using really crap gear lol
Sound is the umbrella of music. Therefore, understanding sound first, followed by the phenomenon of music, and then the concept of music "performed" with an instrument is a good deduction. Only in this way can we realize how much "muse" exists in things we do not culturally perceive as "music." Thank you for the comment!
Appreciate your feedback. AI is a useful tool, but it's not a substitute for human ingenuity. My content is a result of my careful curation and editing, with AI only assisting in certain areas. I believe this approach leads to a more engaging and satisfying experience for my viewers.
Only 3 minutes into the video and this is some top tier edited content, deserve way more subscribers 👍
Hey! Really? Thanks a bunch ❤
"Puts 12 LFOs, resonator, 10.5 reverbs, draw a scheme of effect chains that looks like road map of highways in India"
-I know it's basic...
😂
Beautifull video! You so-so-so right about dub techno being a shield against intrusive world around. This music litterally saved my life last year when i thought i can't make through hard times. Even inspired to learn a daw and make couple of ambient tracks... but i never was able to wrap my head around how you make EXACTLY dub techno. You channel inspired me to try again. Thank you!
Your comment truly made my day! I think dub techno has had a similar impact on me, which might explain my deep obsession with it. Thank you for sharing that with me :)
That is the best 38 minutes I've ever spent on UA-cam. Signing up for your Udemy course right now...thanks.
Thank you for your time and purchase. Enjoy the inspiration ahead and welcome aboard!
You are a real master of your craft and a huge gift for the dub techno music tutorial scene! Thank you so much for the clean way of presenting all the steps and that you provide your project files, that makes dissecting and learning what is going on so much easier. I usually use FL Studio since there the routing in the Patcher environment (similar to Bitwigs Grid) is so flexible, but the sounds you get from knowing how to set up the synths and a rather simple effect chain are simply amazing. All the effects and subtle randomizations make it sound like you have field recordings mixed in when in fact they are not, and that is the first time I noticed this. I listen to artists like Echospace quite often and was wondering what their original samples might have been, but it never occured to me that many of these sounds might be the result of surprising effects from modulating everything organically since some of your effects sound really close to theirs.
Thank you for the heartfelt message! I’m glad the video resonated with you. What you noticed about the subtle randomizations mimicking field recordings is a key aspect of the genre's organic charm. It’s fascinating how organic and complex sounds can emerge from relatively straightforward setups, especially when you let the effects breathe and interact with each other naturally. That’s part of what makes this genre (and several others) so captivating: the unpredictability within the process. The surprising part is often how minimal the starting points can be. But there’s always more than one way to approach the sound, and I’m excited to share other techniques in future videos. Stay safe!
Everything about this is truly beautiful and inspiring! I want to leave my job now and jump on Ableton. Thank you!
Glad to know you got inspired! Maybe start by sneaking Ableton into your work meetings. See how that goes first. Haha!
I believe this is the best dub techno tutorial on UA-cam. It explains the philosophy behind dub techno, rather than focusing on how to create a specific sound or how to build a track from A to Z like most other tutorials. This video explains how the foundation is built, how the elements fit together, and what kind of feeling and emotion each type of sound should convey to the listener. It's independent of the tools used to create it, whether it's Ableton or a drum machine; what's important is understanding the concept it expresses. Compliments on the excellent execution of this video!
Thanks a ton for the kind words! Really happy to hear you got the deeper vibe I was aiming for. It's all about the feeling, not just the gear, right? Appreciate the support!
New benchmark. Best dub techno video out there, and I've watched a lot. I love how you get to the heart of the philosophy of dub techno.
Thank you so much for the kind words! It’s a real privilege to get such praise. I’m glad the style resonates with you-welcome aboard!
I've watched a lot of similar videos, but this one really broke through for me. It helped me really understand the philosophy behind the practical steps that most creators focus on - thanks!
Glad it was helpful. Thanks a bunch! There is more to come soon.
You almost made me cry at the end... Muchísimas gracias hermano! This has helped me a lot with my decisions forward, I'm even considering the good side of dawbased music. Much respect and appreciation from Montevideo Uruguay
Hey, friend! I'm truly touched by your kind words. It makes me so happy to hear that the video has been helpful. Your support keeps me going. So, thanks a million for your interest-stay tuned, new content is definitely on the way!
DAW is just another tool. There are few truly bad tools these days, just lack of imagination of the user.
since I found Dub Techno, it's my favorite genre, which I will keep producing in. so happy that I found your channel
Welcome aboard, mate!
Your outro to this vid is just a breath of fresh air. Inspiring to say the least. I'm going to be watching every video you've done.
I appreciate the love! I try to end things on a high note.
Easily one of the best produced music production vids I've ever seen. You gained a sub in the first 15 seconds. In regards to atmosphere, I would love an entire vid if you haven't already made one! I've been wanting to explore the intersection between drone music and techno, more specifically the idea of danceable space independent of drums, which you all but touched on with the "backcloth" framework. Can't wait for the next one!
Appreciated! Glad you enjoyed the video. Stay tuned for the upcoming videos and welcome aboard :)
As a huge dubtechno fan and trying to create atmospheric dub techno tracks by myself I really want to say Thank you ! Amazing tutorial !
Your feedback means a lot-thank you! There will be more videos focused on "atmosphere" coming soon.
@@bahadirhankocer i am really looking forward !!
This is some high tier content and presentation... excellent video my friend.
Thank you, friend!
Absolutely amazing video. You have broken down the sound I have been trying to get for so long in such a clear way. I could get bit of it, I could do decent dub stabs, but what you have taught me is that my "background" was lacking and I was using noise too simply and although I was using randomness, I wasn't using enough. I will buy your book.
How lucky are you!? You get to study dub techno academically and can make a living out of what you love. I'm also and academic. I started listening to dub techno because when I am writing I need to seal myself off from the world around me - your "orphic" comments really resonated with me. Unfortunately, or fortunately, depending on who you look at it, over time, I started listening carefully to "orphic" Dub Techno and trying to work out how it is made and have a go at making it myself. This broke the spell of Dub techno as a facilitator to writing - if I listen when writing now, I start analysing it. These days, when writing, I just listen to brown noise. I prefer it to white, pink, etc., it is more soothing. You know you are down some kind of rabbit hole when you have a favourite spectral balance for the noise you listen to...
Thank you for such a thoughtful and reflective comment! It’s incredible to hear how deeply dub techno has influenced your creative process, even if it has shifted from a tool for focus to something that now pulls you into the details of the sound. I think that’s part of the genre’s magic-it has this way of revealing itself the more you listen, like peeling back layers you didn’t even realize were there.
I totally get what you’re saying about using noise and randomness. There’s something very compelling about pushing the limits of what we define as ‘background’ and seeing how far you can take it without losing the essence of the track. I’m thrilled that the video gave you a new perspective on this! It sounds like you're already deep into experimenting.
As for the noise you listen to while writing it’s fascinating how each has its own mood and texture. Sometimes, finding that perfect noise can feel like discovering a new frequency that syncs up with your thoughts, helping you to focus or drift into a different mental space.
Looking forward to hearing how your journey with dub techno evolves!
Great video!! I’m just a beginner, but found a lot of ideas to get with the Digitakt. Thanks!!
Glad it resonated! Enjoy the ride with the Digitakt.
Thank you! In few weeks I learned more from your book and videos than from months watching other tutorials and still not being able to achieve this sound. Really appreciate your thorough academic approach!
Thank you so much for the kind words and support! I'm delighted to hear that the book and videos have been helpful. Knowing that the more in-depth, academic approach resonates and makes a difference is always rewarding.
I truly believe that understanding the theory and philosophy behind the sound is just as important as the technical aspects, and it's great to see that it's coming together for you.
I’m excited to see where you take this newfound knowledge and how your sound will evolve from here. If you ever feel like sharing what you create, I’d love to hear it!
@@bahadirhankocer if I ever manage to make something that I am happy with, I will share it with you 😉
@@stranger_here_m Looking forward!
Just stumbled upon this. Awesome content. Subbed immediately!
Again, welcome aboard!
Not only theory but also the beautiful practice 🙏Thank you for this video, great aesthetic experience, and solid techniques.
My pleasure! Thank your for your kind words.
Best and most informative audio channel out there. You’re quality will be recognised by many, keep uploading brother!
A huge compliment, thank you! I’m sure there are plenty of other great channels out there adding value, but I’m just focused on doing my best and sharing what I can. My main goal is to spark some creative instincts in viewers-just like the content I used to enjoy for years. So, I am glad it resonated with you. Hope to see you there when it’s recognised by many!
Great video. Please do more.
Thanks! More to come 🙌🏻
Everything you’ve shared is incredibly valuable and priceless. Thank you for presenting this information to us with such care. You’re putting in a lot of hard work, and I genuinely believe you’re going to achieve remarkable things. It’s exciting to know you and witness the incredible work you’re doing. Sevgilerle.
Great to hear some positive feedback from an old friend and fellow producer. Really appreciate the kind words! There's plenty more to come, so stay tuned 🙌
Amazing content, deserves way more views! Keep em' coming!
Thanks, mate! There'll be more. Stay tuned 🙌
I've been looking for something like this for while, appreciate it very much sir.
Hey there! Glad to hear it and welcome aboard 🙌
This right in alignment for me, but more purely the pure dub component. I'm only halfway thru your vid, but don't forget adding healthy doses of live passes of effect send,s mutes, fader moves, effect manipulation, etc... recorded back to the DAW in this case either with controller surfaces or hardware. Doesn't have to be fancy gear, sometimes the cheaper and dirtier the better.
Same. I’m into both (traditional) dub and dub techno, I like trying to find a way to meld them.
Absolutely! You’ve hit the nail on the head-live passes of effect manipulation, fader rides, and those spontaneous moves are where a lot of the magic happens in dub.
In my eyes, it’s all about that human touch, bringing a real-time feel to the sound that’s hard to replicate. And you’re right, it doesn’t always take fancy gear to get there. Sometimes the raw, lo-fi elements add even more character to the mix.
I appreciate your insight-sounds like you’ve got a solid handle on the dub component. Keep those textures coming!
Loving this video, well made . Thank you
one of the best youtube content i've ever seen!!! please keep it up
any plans of translating your work (book) into spanish?
@@wostmusic8482 Thank you. New content will definitely come. Unfortunately, I don’t currently have plans to translate the book, as it has only just started selling. Maybe in the future-why not? Translation is a tough job, man.
This was awesome, thank you. You're a great teacher. :)
Glad you enjoyed it!
Let’s goooooo. This is why I subscribed. This video is FIRE.
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I am coming from a software engineering background trying to learn music, and I greatly appreciate your approach not just teaching the technical stuff, but also the theory, the fundamentals, and how it glues everything together to create these amazing sounds. I am reading the book right now and it's amazing, thank you!
Your enthusiasm for learning is inspiring. I'm delighted that you're finding value in the book! It's heartening to see interdisciplinary inspiration taking shape.
The algorithm recommended me this randomly, even though i don't even make music myself.
It's a really cool guide/documentary though :D
Glad the algorithm worked its magic! Even if you’re not into making music, it’s cool that it caught your interest. If you ever want to explore more, you know where to find me. Cheers!🎶
This is Deep Dub Techno...Love it...Thanks for sharing
Having your love is wonderful. Thank you for being a part of the experience. There's more to come. Welcome to our circle.
Enjoyed watching this. Very well produced and presented video. It is much appreciated.
Glad you enjoyed it, mate!
Thanks for your in depth explanation! Always wanted to know more about how to create dub techno and this is really inspiring :)
Happy to hear that! I've got some new videos in the works, exploring the techniques and philosophy behind dub techno.
Subbed. Nice work! Note, this type of analysis of hyper genre-fying what you make is useful insofar as you’re trying to make music that falls in line with an established style. Not trying to invent a new style of your own. This works for most people, who prefer to be easily pegged to an already existing style/genre with a pre-existing tribe of fans. Whereas, the kind of artists (like Moritz) who invented these genres, were just being themselves following their own interests (in his case, re-synthesizing what he loved about Jamaican music in his own way). Not judging here and saying one approach is better for people to pursue. Just saying that following an existing genre is a choice, and has vast repercussions on how your music (and you) will be perceived.
Yes! I completely understand and agree with your point, especially regarding the role of genre invention and originality. However, my focus wasn't to highlight that aspect this time. In fact, I believe dub techno is quite free compared to other more "fixed" genres, particularly in its DSP stages. There's a lot of room to explore and manipulate sound in ways that often break conventional molds.
While the invention of genres is a profound topic, the structured aesthetic of an established genre like dub techno can also be incredibly deep when you consider how it resonates with both the general audience and niche listeners. For me, dub techno has always been a profound source of inspiration, not just in terms of its sound but in how it encourages one to think about the phenomenon of "sound" itself.
My goal has always been to spread that inspiration. Dub techno has been a galaxy of ideas, and I chose it as a foundation to express my thoughts on a variety of issues.
Once again, I appreciate the time you took to share your insights, and I completely see where you're coming from. Thanks for subscribing!
Brillante. Infinite thnks. Now I love Dub techno even more. Really.
The beauty of dub techno lies in its ability to transport you to another world. I'm thrilled that you've connected with it on such a deep level.
@bahadirhankocer I'm a producer, I have mi little studio and some live sets , I like to improvise music. For me This is gold and a new way to understand so many thing, beyond production skills. It's about love to the genere and the craft to make this amazing music. (Sorry about grammar, not English native 😅)
Welcome aboard, mate! Improvisation is a deep ocean to dive in and a profound way to explore the phenomenon of sound.
I loved this video! So detailed and helpful. Thank you so much!
Many thanks!
bro.... what amaizing content you put out here.. congratulations !!
Glad you enjoyed it, mate! There's more to come.
This is real quality, thank you!
@@Breakfast_Time-r3c Thank YOU.
Bro pulled a netflix value documentary philosophing about dub techno and called it a tutorial🫠 Good content sir!
Wow! Thanks a bunch. Stay tuned, friend. There's more to come!
Inspirational video
Absolutely top drawer
Thank you 🙏
Appreciated! Welcome aboard.
There are those people, that tell you how you do things ... but thats half the equasion at best. I need to know why, then i know my way how ... thank you sir. This is gold.
Hey, appreciated! I always value the question "why" because, in my eyes, it illuminates the creative workflow and helps you take more solid steps without getting lost in the technical vortex. This is why I chose to structure my videography and narration in this format. It reflects the kind of content I consume myself on my creative journey as a music producer and sound designer. I believe that by sharing not just the technical "how", but also the underlying reasons and ideas, I can offer a more meaningful experience for others following similar paths.
Beautiful video, thank you so much. I've been starting to experiment with dub techno and been struggling to get the chords right! About to hop back in on a new project and integrate some of these ideas 🙏
@@robfarrimond4586 Thanks so much and welcome aboard. I’m happy that you got inspired. Dub techno chords are tricky but it's really all in how you balance the delay and reverb and use modulations sparingly to create that deep texture. Do more and if you have any questions please feel free to ask.
Excellent work man ! Thanks and suscribed
Welcome aboard, mate!
Did not left much secrets left for dub-techno. At least not in the box. Good stuff : )
I'm so glad you feel that way. Really... I'll keep exploring the genre from different angles-there's so much to discover and share. Welcome aboard!
Hello friend, what a great video, and what a great ability to inform, you are a great UA-camr. Could you make some more videos on how to make dub techno with other vsts that are not native to ableton. thank you. all the best
Hey, mate! Thank you so much for your kind words. Appreciated. Yes, there will definitely be more content on dub techno, diving deeper into the bass, percussions, modulation paradigms, arrangement approaches, history and more. Stay tuned for upcoming videos. All the best to you as well!
Incredible video all round. Thanks so much. Amazing quality tips and video quality.
Much appreciated! Stay tuned for more :)
That was dope!
Thanks, mate!
This is an inspiring piece of work. I love it. Started working on a new track because of this.
That’s amazing to hear! Inspiring others to create is exactly why I make these videos. Stoked that it sparked something new for you. Keep the creativity flowing 🙌
The thoughts are great, but the edit is top tier too, you deserve more subsssss
It is nice to see the content resonates around the globe. Appreciated, mate!
Great video 👏🏻
Thanks for the visit!
Thank you for the video 💯 that sound evokes something special ✨😍
Dub techno has a unique power evoke profound emotions. I'm glad that my work has touched you in such a special way.
fucking love dub techno so much
We're on the same page!
Wow... Very useful and brilliant
Your kind words mean a lot. I'm passionate about making music education accessible and enjoyable, so it's rewarding to know that my efforts are appreciated.
Fantastic and Thoughtful. Thanks
My pleasure!
Damn, that's a great overview. Subscribed. I've been experimenting lately with another technique to deliberately use an out of sync bassline under dramatically modulated slow evolving chord structures. Currently using the Torso S4 for that.
Hi! Thank you so much for the kind words. After reading your comment, I can’t help but be curious about the results you achieved. A delightful recipe!
Found this very interesting . will you be doing any videos of a more Ambient Dub Techno like CV313 standing Still (Reduced) etc etc ????????
Hey there! I've been planning to create a lot of content lately, focusing on shorter but more impactful pieces. I’ve opened a discussion in the UA-cam community-feel free to share your ideas there! I’ll compile a list and create content that best fits to you.
I feel like with this video you’ve laid claim to the title high priest of dub techno. Also look forward to checking out your book - I’m guessing it will make a worthy addendum / chronological successor to what I consider the original (roots) dub bible by Michael Veal.
Thanks for the kind words! Veal's "Dub: Soundscapes and Shattered Songs in Jamaican Reggae" was a huge inspiration for the dub history section in my book. I hope you'll find my exploration of this topic to be a worthy addition to the conversation.
bro wtf i just found a hidden gem channel
@@emmanuelvideo Welcome aboard!
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In 40 mnts iv learned years ❤
Glad it resonated ❤️
Super video.. thanks so much. Where can I download this project?
Added in the description! You’ll need some third-party plug-ins, but it’ll work just fine if you replace them with the stock plug-ins.
Great video, lots to learn. Question: Does this work with the standard Live or would I need the Live Suite version? Thanks in advance.
Thanks, bud! The main differences between Ableton Live Standard and Suite are the lack of Max for Live in Standard, which limits your ability to create custom tools, and the smaller library of instruments and effects compared to Suite. So, if your goal is to be creative in DSP, you might need Suite.
maestro!
Glad you're enjoying the ride!
Awesome video! Love Dub Techno! I have a question - Most the sound systems in the clubs are mono. How will Dub Techno sound there?
Thanks! Your question is fascinating and it deserves a proper answer because it touches on both technical and philosophical dimensions of dub techno.
Let’s start with the technical layer. You’re absolutely right-most club sound systems are mono, which can affect how a dub techno track translates spatially. In stereo, dub techno often relies on wide delays, reverbs, and panning effects to create a sense of depth and atmosphere. This spatial design is central to the genre’s aesthetic. However, in a mono system, these stereo elements collapse, which means that your mix must be carefully balanced to ensure that important frequencies aren't lost or masked when played in mono. Mixing with mono compatibility in mind is crucial for preserving the clarity and impact of the music, particularly in club settings where bass-heavy sound systems dominate.
But beyond the technical considerations, there’s a more philosophical layer here. The Orphic experience of dub techno, as I explored in my thesis, refers to the genre’s ability to transport listeners into a meditative, isolated state, often in contrast to the communal energy of club environments. In clubs, where sound is shared by the collective, the focus shifts from the intimate, detailed listening experience one might have with headphones in a quiet setting to a more immersive, physical engagement with sound. Dub techno’s deep bass and hypnotic rhythms are still effective in a club context, but the Orphic isolation-where listeners feel as though they’re enveloped in sound and space-can be diminished without stereo spatialization.
Ultimately, for the full Orphic experience of dub techno, headphones and a controlled, isolated environment provide the most depth and nuance. That said, a well-mixed mono track can still evoke the atmospheric essence of dub techno in a club, but the emotional and spatial immersion might not be as intense. Both experiences-individual and communal-have their own unique qualities, and that duality is part of what makes dub techno so fascinating.
@@bahadirhankocerthank you!
No, thank you.
I'm playing dub techno in the clubs here. Not too often, but once every other month or so. Unfortunately, the systems are stereo since I helped set them up.
My comment is to simply encourage you to explore these questions yourself when you have them. I have this same issue too. Quick to search for an answer rather than just run the experiment myself. Assuming you have a DAW, monitor controller, mixer, or some type of DSP on your computer output, then simply cue up a playlist of a variety of dub techno and then play with the mono switch. I've been doing this more lately. I'm finding that most of the music I'm collecting is still completely acceptable and enjoyable in mono. It just isn't immersive. Without the stereo width, the immersion is gone. I would argue with our author, though, in his suggestion of headphones being ideal. Maybe he doesn't mean that... but in my experience, I need a room of some kind and nothing touching my ears to truly be immersed. Even if the room resonance is messing up the response. This is why I'm spending so much time and effort on acoustic treatment and DSP correction to get the best of both.
I'd love to buy the book for $10-15, but it costs $58 plus shipping and the only review is saying that the QR codes don't work.
Maybe bring out a print on demand cheap paperback and address the qr code issue? You'd make more sales I recon. Thanks for your consideration!
Hey! Thank you so much for your feedback and for considering my book. I really appreciate your interest. I understand your concern about the price, and while it may seem high, it reflects the time and effort put into creating a comprehensive work on dub techno, one of the few books published on the genre.
Thank you also for pointing out the issue with the QR codes. I’m deeply sorry for the inconvenience. I’ve opened a support ticket with the platform that generated the codes (Me-QR) and am actively working to resolve the issue. If the problem isn’t resolved within the next two days, I will be updating the content on Amazon to address this directly. Once it’s sorted out, I will certainly provide an update.
Unfortunately, the one review on Amazon reflects this problem, which I am eager to fix as quickly as possible. However, I've received positive feedback from readers around the globe, but none of them have left reviews on Amazon, which affects the overall impression there. I believe time will correct this false image.
@@bahadirhankocer thank you for your answers.
I respect your decision to price the book where you did, while I don't agree that it is a smart business move. You're losing out on sales, by outpricing yourself out of the market. As a bottom line, I assume you make less revenue than you could with a reasonable price.
In addition to the business side, I am taken aback that you know so much about the origins of electronic music as a counter culture, and consciously outprice low income fans, musicians, and enthusiasts.
I urge you to reconsider.
Hey! No worries. Please know that I value all feedback. Thanks again for your input. Just for your information, the QR codes have been renewed and are now working properly.
@@bahadirhankocer thanks for listening and taking care of the qr codes. :-) And thank you for your videos!
I am also wanting to purchase but hesitating on price. Just wanted to chime in. I've no idea what it should cost, but I just know I've never paid that much for a book that wasn't forced by college curriculum. For me, I've spent a decade researching this stuff, so on one hand I'm super keen to see what I might have missed and on the other, I'm worried I'll spend that money to find what I already know. Maybe the description could elaborate more? Or maybe what's needed is some good back cover reviews by notable figures speaking to the value... or... a loss-leader style price to simply draw people to impulse buy and give it a shot. I may cave and spend the bucks, at that point I'll do my best to give an honest review for you on Amazon. Regardless, cheers!
excellent video
Thanks for the visit!
Great tutorial! What's your sound design on the bass? I never know where to go except for using a simple sub sine... :(
Hi! Sorry for the late response. Just click the link and hit play. Let me know and I'll explain my take on the bass. A true scientific approach:
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top tier
Nice to hear you enjoyed it!
I don’t see the download link for the project. Definitely going to check that udemy course though. 👌🏼
The project added in the description. Thank for the heads up! As for Udemy, if you're new to DSP tools, it's a good 101 course. Besides that, there are short lectures on the philosophy and history of noise. You can also access the course as a member on UA-cam.
instant sub
@@Thugmarlon Welcome aboard 🌎
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Great content, instant sub 🤿
Hey! Thanks, mate.
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Im surprised you didn't use more polyrhythm. 3/4 are 7/8 and awesome to mix with 4/4
Thanks for the feedback! Polyrhythms are definitely a powerful tool for creating interesting and complex grooves. I'll keep that in mind for future tracks.
Deep... 7 inch Speakers and 8inch Subwoofer recommended over Headphones "D
Exactly! That's how it was meant to be experienced. Feel the depth, mate!
aren´t the indian ragas similar in some way to the flow of dub techno?
Agreed! The most prominent element between the two is the concept of the drone. Similar to the "backcloth" I explained, drone instruments like the Tanpura in Raga serve a similar purpose: to create a center for other instruments to follow and establish a "fluid space" where they can merge and move in harmony. When I consider the atmospheric elements in various electronic music genres, we tend to use sustained sounds that are slightly modulated by pitch, timbre, and so on.
From an academic standpoint, this relationship between drones in Raga and atmosphere in dub techno would require more research and methodological analysis. However, it remains a very creative hypothesis.
this fucking rocks!!
Thanks!
The great god Al-Gorithm smiles on me this day.
Welcome to the club, mate!
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@@bahadirhankocer hard to explain - but i think dub techno is not genre of music or style - its state of mind+state of soul
"It's a state of soul", indeed!
It's interesting how many academics are into dub techno
That's a great point! It's interesting how dub techno has managed to capture the attention of so many academics. Perhaps its blend of sonic experimentation, cultural significance, and subversive nature makes it a particularly fertile ground for academic inquiry.
However, it's worth noting that other genres have also intrigued dozens of academics. What might make dub techno stand out is its niche status. Being a less mainstream genre, it often offers a unique and unexplored landscape that can be particularly appealing to academics seeking new and challenging subject matter.
What do you think?
keep it simple
Uh-huh!
What do you mean by "temporary escape from demands of market capitalism"?
Great question! To start, some of the ideas in this video are drawn from discussions in my book. You know how, in academic settings, discussions are often explored through theories. The concept of the Orphic experience, for instance, was one I developed based on Mack Hagood's idea of Orphic media. Hagood defines Orphic media as a kind of escape, a way for the user to shut out the demands of market capitalism. A classic example would be wearing headphones in a shopping mall to block out the background music and create your own sonic space. This is what we call sonic self-control. So, while it may sound a bit strange at first, Hagood’s book Hush provides some serious analysis on neoliberalism and market capitalism. Just knowing that this concept comes from there will help you get the bigger picture.
The modulations put my CPU in a coma.
Hehe! No worries-someday it won't be an issue.
It appears I was taking too much of a descriptivist approach to dub techno. Perhaps due to lack of critical listening. As primarily a player of instruments, I shall endeavor to take as much of this semi-experimentalist approach as possible using really crap gear lol
Sound is the umbrella of music. Therefore, understanding sound first, followed by the phenomenon of music, and then the concept of music "performed" with an instrument is a good deduction. Only in this way can we realize how much "muse" exists in things we do not culturally perceive as "music." Thank you for the comment!
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script sounds like its been written by Ai, honestly the voice too
Appreciate your feedback. AI is a useful tool, but it's not a substitute for human ingenuity. My content is a result of my careful curation and editing, with AI only assisting in certain areas. I believe this approach leads to a more engaging and satisfying experience for my viewers.