Gay in Scientology | Celeb Center | Louis Theroux vs Marty Rathbun | OTE 325
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- Опубліковано 11 чер 2024
- Steven Mango is a former scientologist - now exposing the horrible things they made him suffer in the cult, and the psychological and physical pain that gave him. Having to hide his sexual orientation out him in a position of complete discomfort and fear. #scientology #cults #homosexuality
Steven’s link:
/ @mangoman7591
Andrew Gold links:
/ andrewgold_ok
/ andrewgold_ok
andrewgold.locals.com
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Chapters:
00:00 Scientology made me sick
05:36 Being GAY in Scientology
09:54 Weird Scientology vocabulary
15:15 Steven's classic fall into Scientology
23:31 When he spoke up (fair game)
29:06 What REALLY happened with Louis Theroux & Marty Rathbun
34:49 Marty Rathbun, DOUBLE AGENT?
37:58 Scientology after Scientology
43:26 How Scientology Uses Celebrity Center to take your money
49:55 Scientology is running out of CELEBRITIES
54:16 Scientology stops you from seeing REALITY
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Edited by: Gonzalo Kaplanski - Розваги
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Did you know all that about Marty Rathbun? Can you imagine being gay in scientology? (I did a great episode with Oh No Nora on that too!). Hit like, share on socials, and comment below!
Fantastic
Thx Andrew! Awesome journalism and Interview❤️
On my way to support your Patrion
Love Marty Rathbun. Loved how he escaped the church and got others out as well.
You are such a great journalist! I hope you see my comments as to why this topic was so important to me. I am a gay Christian with disabling chronic pain. In fact, I’ve been disabled for 16 years. I’m celibate but don’t know what would happen if I met my soulmate. I feel so sorry for him. Killing his dog? Scientology at its finest! My chihuahua, Isabelle’s unconditional love has kept me alive thru this and she is 15 now… 🥹. She is healthy now but getting old and don’t know what will happen when she passes. My mother and I watch at least one video per night and wish I had seen this one earlier. Much love to you, please keep going and I wish nothing but more and more success for your career and pray for your family & friends back in Israel!
thank you jeremy! @@JeremyLArnold
Scientology sounds so exhausting.
which is one tactic i've heard that cults/business-pyramid scam groups/military use,
exhausted &/or sleep deprived people are more susceptible to influences, especially in a group setting, the members influencing/reinforcing each others experience of the new goal/perspective/teaching/training
Exactly, I couldn’t/ wouldn’t be able to do it. I’d be lying, faking everything 😂😂
Scientology Is Sick
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Soon to be Extinct ❗️
Like most religions. People join a religion to hide in plain sight!!!
It's where bad people go to pretend they're good.
If you're a good person you don't need to be told how to act towards people, using 2000 year old out dated books full of hate.
Yes… true.. but then How Does it even works then?
Steve Mango was the very first exscientologist I followed. They tortured him so very badly. I'm so happy to see him so mentally and physically healthy.
I’m glad Steven Mango is on your show. He needs to be heard.
I’ve only ever thought of Scientology as a cult, with no religious attachments. Just insane.
You're right.
This is a mistake. You wont understand the allure and the attractions. The early courses heavily focus on training people to be in the present moment and mindful. People experience Zen like phenomona. They entrain ( enculturate, indoctrinate ) People are immortal sprirital beings at the same time.
they use a spiritually loaded language which has double and triple religious meanings for everyday things.
When mango said "youre so theta" , it meant positive, bit also uplighting or spiritual or free.
The religuoius attchments are multifold, a beloef in past lives, future lives, trauma as the main spiritual block , A relationship with the church where other religions place community, or God or the Government.
after the early courses teach someone to disengage their reactions, almost everything else teaches and trains a series of goal oritented filters : to ones own mental experiemce, other conversation and handling people in life. at this point EVERYTHING now has an angle, a product to be produced, an ideal situation from which they are trained to move things toward.
Meanwhile the person might ( if they are a select minority where Hubbards Therapies work ) experience new positive emotions subject to special realizations , or dependant in them. Have past life "recovered memories" which see to validate claims.
The majority of exes claim they LIKED the early stuff, espcially in the very rare circumstances where it was customized to their own problems and needs. ( life repair) . Unfortunateluy its built on exploitation and this is rarely done, and people are pushed into more expensive standardized courses or trainings which dont help them.
I love Steven Mango. I started watching his videos year ago. I'm so glad he got out. Scientology would have destroyed his kind spirit. Thank you for interviewing Steven. I'm always glad to hear what he's up to. ❤😊
Steven has a very supportive husband. He has a very good support system which is wonderful. 🥰🥰
Nobody should ever blame a person who leaves an abusive relationship- be it with a person or an organization. I hope Steven & all people who've been manipulated, gaslighted, threatened, & terrorized can appreciate how strong they are for leaving. Nobody deserves the psychopathic abuse this man has been through. I wish him all the best. 💖
Try working in the NHS ! 😉
His initial story he posted was my introduction to the ex-Scientology on UA-cam community, even though I had watched every episode of Leah's series when it came out. I was happy to see you were interviewing him and that he came out of hiding not long ago.
So glad brave people like you are revealing these horrible people and will hopefully save others from getting involved.
So nice to see Steven Mango on Andrew Gold! Love seeing you Steven.
Just saw this! Contributed funds bc his situation is so close to mine (just different in details). I’m a gay Christian who has been disabled from chronic pain for 16 years. I believe the self hate was a huge contributor to my pain.
Why act on gayness if it bums you out so much.Try a girl mate,you just may like it.....and yourself
@@yyxy.oncesaidwhy would you say something so insensitive? What would you say to someone who told you that you should try to be gay? One simply cannot change whom they are attracted to. Can you imagine being forced to be in a relationship you despise?
@@prettypinklady69There are people who have. Also, the stats for gay people are very poor. Getting out of the lifestyle is healthy.
At what age did you decide you were attracted to women? @@yyxy.oncesaid
Being a gay Christian.. how does that work.. just curious bc the bible does say it's an abomination to the Lord ?? I'm being serious.. my brother is gay but not a Christian due to the bible saying you'll go to hell
Another great interview Andrew!
Steve Mango! It's so good to see you!
This kid has been put through the ringer. They even poisoned his dog!
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It's 4:20! Who's smoking 🚬
@@michael-4k4000 I'm a professional...I never have to wait for 4:20. 😊🙃😊🙃😊🙃😊
I still don't understand how anyone would think that LRH had a clue about anything?
I thought Travolta turned out to be gay. I saw a clip of him kissing his pilot on the lips. Couldn't believe it.
Dear lord, I’m soooo sorry about your puppy Steve. Unfathomable 😢💙
Im sorry, but there is ZERO PROOF that the Church poised Steve's dog. And the dog wasnt even a puppy, not that it matters, but you seem to make it sound worse on a lie. Do your home work LUMIN
@@michael-4k4000 🚨🚨🚨 wow we have a real gem here!!! Are you SERIOUSLY criticizing the condolence I left for Steven? Freakin have some decency & at the very least try some manners dude😡😡
@@lumin3370Thank you for your kindness Michelle. I was in Scientology too and they are so cold. No compassion or warmth. You feel scared, starved and emotionally neglected in there.
There’s an epic scene by you in that doc Steven.
I just subscribed to Steven’s channel. Steven, I love beauty UA-cam (skincare, makeup, Botox information etc) so feel free to post information that you are learning about that too! I am so happy for Steven and his amazing Husband. ❤ Thank goodness that Steven found an amazing man that believed in him! I believe in you too, Steven. I’m just a 51 y/o Southern Grandmother but, I feel all encouragement helps. Can’t wait to hear you Graduated college. 👏👏👏
Nice to see Steven Mango again.
Excellent interview!
I am so glad you got out Steve and that you now embrace your sexuality. I had to supress mine too when I was in there. Much better to be out. All the best!
Oh, God that's insane! I've got a 7 years old daughter with insulin-dependent diabetes. Without insuline therapy she would suffer serious health problems and eventually would die 😭. It's so horrifying to realise how many poeple suffering from potentially curable diseases have died because of religious/cult believes and restrictions 😢. I wish you both all the best and good health.
Don’t forget, all those “fixes” cost a fortune!
Mangotology! Thank you!!
I just can’t imagine how someone can be so mentally lost and gullible.
That's just WRONG! Andrew says at 54:30 that Elisabeth Moss "got famous from being the lead actress in Handmaid's Tale." She was famous and a VERY successful actress long before that series started. She had previously been nominated for a massive number of awards, with a fair share of wins, for the TV series Mad Men and Top of the Lake.
God bless this young man
What a fascinating insight. Always wondered about Liz Moss in the handmaids tale 😮
Ive seen channels talking about him awhile ago, not about him being a Scientologist!! Didn't know that 🤔!!
You knew exactly what you were doing with that thumbnail. Reminds me of THAT episode of South Park 😂
Great guest❤
Was Steven in a documentary for Scientology? I remember him!
Greetings from Adelaide. 0620hrs and it’s dawn.
Marty, you are amazing, well done on finding the strength to get away and become yourself. You're too good for Scientology and Hollywood, all the best with finding your purpose ooo
Why is it ok for Catherine Bell and John Travolta but not for everyone else?
I was in for 28 years. Steven is giving me PTSD recalling all those small yet vicious moments.PTS,TYPE A,Type B,It is always you and yes the shame involved is real.
Hi from IrelandAndrew
Hi OSA
my previous comment got auto-deleted so I won't mention what I mentioned before regarding independent Scientology :/
great interview though, shout out to Steve Mango but also Doug and Marisa from the ex Scientology community
This is hard but, you never should have gone to LA when you were 18. You got taken. Runaway girls get picked up by pimps. You should have done local theater, and matured at home.
The advertisement for this video won’t stop. It goes on and on and on. Please stop!
Ibwas wondering what happend to him. He was actually the very first person i have seen speak out. And if his goal was to keep just one person away from this cult, he did that!!! He saved me from joining that cult. So Huge Thanks.
I Would Never Ever Fall For Scientologie, I Have Watched Eyes Wide Shut So Many Times I Am Immune To Cults.
Riiggghhhhtttttt
Is this going to be a complete video or a teaser to the paid podcast?
Yeah, it's like I watch all these 'Premieres' and end up watching them again in a full version! I don't want that. I'd rather watch it all in one go. It's like he's selling his product in £10 bags!
@@thekeysman6760it’s become quite transactional. The subject matter isn’t terribly curated so much as what’s trending so the channel is losing authenticity very fast
@@TheBreechieI’m new here could you elaborate?
Steve is the one I watched first. His videos were what got me into understanding the cult. He is the best, he did it without a safety net, that was pretty brave. Today it’s easy with all the different UA-cam channels talking about it, Steve helped pioneer that.
Never understood how it's called a church. No mention of God, Christ, or the Holy Spirit, so what are they worshipping?
Aliens.
Religious freedom is something integral to the U.S. Constitution. It doesn't matter if you're Christian and believe in God, Muslim and believe in Muhammad, Indian and belive in Hinduism, Asian and believe in Buddha.
For Scientologists they believe that Thetans (aliens) were transplanted into Volcanoes and thier spirits were reincarnated into people. The reason behind the Galatic Fedeation falling apart is because of Xenu who corrupted the Thetans.
Personally, I think Hubbard worked to classify Scientology as a Religeion so he could get tax exempt status on all the money the charge to Go Up the Bridge. If they are classified as a business instead they owe back taxes on all the money they make selling courses.
Cash?
I hope out of anyone in SPtv, The Aftermath Foundation helps this poor kid!! You are a rock star & I hope better days are ahead for you!!!
Did Tom and John Tag Team you at one time
Im so sorry about your dog 😢❤
It's a pity Scientology never developed any tech to eliminate the gratuitous and prolific use of the word 'like'.
I don’t understand why the gay thing was an issue- if they’re taking your money… isn’t that enough?!
Well, they follow the teachings of l Ron Hubbard, who has - and this is going to be a shocker - extremely homophobic! 😂 It's by his prescriptions that all gay people are by default put at something like 1 at the emotional tone scale, making you basically automatically a Potential Trouble Source (if not fully, then very close to it) . 😉
Maybe they take different parts from different religions
No radiation in an MRI but in a Cat scan had John Travolta son been on anti- seizure meds probably wouldn’t have died as a mother of a daughter who had seizures and an RN
No wonder our accents are similar. Boston here. Love this Mango person, would love to follow if he has a You Tube page. My gay best friend, please apply here. ❤
The word is scientology has a video of Marty hitting his kid, and they said they would give it to cps unless he signed a deal. Since the kid is adopted and possibly disabled it holds some weight.
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He tried to hide being gay....hes camper than a row of tents!
The only way youd never know he was gay is if youd never met him! He'd even look gay on a photo. 🤣🤣🤣
Im gay btw.
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Financial issues.... Grant CarDON'T! lol
How many people have died because they followed this cult and didn't get lifesaving treatment? Hope L. Ron is burning in hell for this!
Steve Mango had some really weird "Leave Britney Alone!!"-style drama videos on his channel, but when he talks serious he can be quite interesting.
This whole business with the L.A.-faction around Mango and "DazedButNotConfused" vs. DeLa Carriere/Augustine seems weird and fishy though, as if someone wanted to sow hate and confusion among the critics. I feel we need to stay alert about these kinds of signals and not let them destroy the wonderful SPTV scene that has been developing.
Hello, this is Steve. I want to clarify that my primary intention for speaking out against Karen is to share my personal journey of recovery from Scientology and to caution the ex-Scientology community about the potential for abuse from individuals like her. Many critics were aware of Karen's behavior over the years, yet I was the first to openly address it to protect those, like myself, who are vulnerable and seeking assistance as they transition away from Scientology. At a particularly low point in my life, when I was on my way to a Vegas hotel about to attempt suicide, Karen was aware of my distress. Instead of seeking emergency help or informing my husband, she expressed concern about me being placed under psychiatric care via a 5150. She wanted me to go into session with her to “handle” these thoughts for $2,500 per 12.5 hours of auditing. All the while, she portrayed herself as a nurturing motherly figure to me, yet took advantage of me financially, reminiscent of the practices within Scientology. Unfortunately, I was shunned by the ex-Scientology community during this tumultuous time, rather than receiving support to rectify the harm Karen had inflicted. She even collaborated with Angry Gay Pope to produce a defamatory video that targeted my mental health, my marriage, and other personal aspects of my life. The trauma she caused was immense, and I believe my experiences deserve to be shared and heard. The attempts to silence me from sharing my story of abuse feel eerily similar to the suppressive tactics employed by Scientology. Would you agree?
You must be a newbie. For some of us who were raised in Scientology- This isn't a spectator sport for your viewing pleasure.
Doug & Mango creating drama in the L.A. scene? You're joking right?? I surely hope so. Because they've both been around 15+ years. The anti-Scio community has been around for decades.
SPTV isn't some elitist gang that ex Scientologists join. But clueless people like you sure want to make it that way. Do you realize there are at least 50 prominent 2nd gens who've never even been on SPTV? Or do you only care about who's pop-yul-ar?
There are many of us who've been aware of Karen Auditing in secrecy for over a decade. You do realize that auditing is the sole foundation of Scientology right?
Why would you defend a wealthy 70+ year old women coercing a suicidal 23 year old to pay her for auditing? She straight up ordered him not to seek psychiatric help. What she did is what people like me who were born in fight against. We fight against the toxic abuse system that LRH invented from being spread to children and those who need legitimate mental healthcare.
You don't care about anyone abused in Scientology. All you care about is watching us for your viewing pleasure. This is not a game.
Some of us are not afraid to call Karen out for this because she is wealthy. I've been calling her out for over a decade myself. Educate yourself if you want to act like an anti-Scientology activist.
@@MangoTea wow Steve thanks so much for taking the time to write a personal reply!!
Of course - to get that out of the way - I have no business in making any kind of judgement about what happened between Karen DeLa Carriere and yourself.
As someone who has been around on the internet regarding the Co$ for 20+ years, I primarily admire the heroism of the people who take on Scientology with revealed personal data, such as yourself, AGP, DeLa Carriere and more recently the SPTV community following "Going Clear" and "The Aftermath".
One thing that has definitely become evident to me is that Scientology is a "poisonous gift that keeps on giving poison" - it gets weirder and weirder the closer one looks, it appears to me as the heart of a true and authentic evil, which is why I have had my eyes on it for all this time.
AGP does accept donations to support his courageous and often dare-devilish work, and it seems that DeLa Carriere was graciously sponsoring some of his videos, but for many of these videos she seems to have exerted very little "content control", they seem to be some of the most authentically "AGP" of them all. He also produced some of the interviews where she exposes her story, and - behind ToryMagoo44 and Mark Bunker's XenuTV of course - these are really the trailblazers for much content we are seeing now, even if the picture may not be a complete one as you describe. This is why I was so surprised/confused when you went against her so strongly without acknowledging these achievements with a side note?
The other thing that somehow confused me was the change of your moniker to "...Tea" - inside stories people do not necessarily want officially known - it seems almost like a "market" to be in, but I feel like with all the severity around the Co$, the "drama-channel" format needs to be handled with a lot of care. "Truth" itself is constantly under attempted attacks. (On the other hand I am ready to "Let's have a Kiki" in areas of innocent fun- haha)
I guess I also had/have difficulties finding a turnaround from my strong compassion for DeLa Carriere for all the incredibly terrible events she had to endure, and all her courage to brave the destructive Scientology agents to integrating this with your allegations. It feels like an intereference signal of "person-to-person attack" when we would probably need to "keep our eyes on the prize" of dismantling the intricately structured heart of evil that is contained in organised Scientology.
From what you describe though it seems extremely important to avoid commercial counseling services in the "Freezone" - the "heart of evil" is still contained.
Just my 5 cent after all I am observing.
I wish the U.S. had a working medical system like other "developed" countries!
Another aspect is that many of the Scientologists on SPTV have some kind of "Scientology"-dirt on their own hands, yet I still embrace and appreciate them fully as important key witnesses, now that they are speaking out.
I would have done the same for Marty Rathbun who unfortunately appears to have decided to take the money instead.
In any case I appreciate very much that you are ready again to do substantial podcasts such as this one!
On a personal level I hope you can heal from all the hurt that has piled up - stay away from the Freezone charging money no matter who it is.
Take care and all the best!!
@@MangoTeaThank you for warning people about the Independent Scientology groups, people leave the Church and then get scooped up into these groups. I was at a group in South Africa and the mental abuse was worse in there.
nice lad.
certainly more comfortable
in his natural skin.
due to kicking that
monkey off of his back - called S’Tology..
good on you.!
all the best, on your quest.
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Is this like Imagine yourself gay in prison only the bars are the cult rules, yea that's doable like Janus the Roman god.
Preachers, not the Bible or Christ, shamed me and often included homosexuality with pedophiles & rapists and even said acceptance of gay people would bring about the Apocalypse so I wore a scarlet Letter for decades except my letter was a “G”. After YEARS of therapy and learning to love myself I am much better psychologically but am still disabled and will likely always be bc my Occipital Neuralgia pain isn’t curable and doctors are too afraid of the DEA & the US Govt to prescribe opioids which is the ONLY treatment that has ever helped me.
Damn, I hope better comes along for you.
We can't let Christians forget what they have done.
1000 years they scapegoated Jews, had murderous religious wars, repressed women, supported imperialism and even endorsed slavery. Then, for two hundred years, secularism has been taming the church. We've beaten the church back into behaving and LGBT have been their last scapegoats. Even now as half of the denominations have moved away from that as well, others still persist.
Never stop reminding Christians of their own history of evil.
The credit caed fraud is still happening after he is married toa lawyer. What a load of BS.
Cults "upsell" you.
This is so unfair
if life was fair you would have a 10 inch shlong
Tom cruise is so gay and that’s ok
I think he's married.
i bought a hard copy of his 'celeb ctr' DVD!! i still have the web link he sent me. this is one of the best movies i own! just a story of someone going thru their life, not a baked potato 'msg piece' like what scientology produces . . .
When Did you know that you were a power bottom
Andrew, Matthew Perry died! please report on him asap!
I cant listen to more the 3 mins of this guy.....
I guess this would be interesting or maybe helpful..if you hadnt rambled so
The guy talks so fast and goes on and on without even taking a breath! He made me nervous. Andrew could barely get a word in!
I cant find the comment suggesting to pretend to be straight and marry a woman. You really dont care about women either to suggest that.
Yup. Misleading thumbnail and title as always. Reminds me of why I unsubbed.
How many tampons did you have to use before you stop reading
Where is Louis Theroux??? Misleading title? Boring
This is so fu**ef
Just get out live your life no sympathy
Steven Mango is suspicious to me because he’s told some fibs in recent months…tread carefully Andrew.
I’d love to know which “fibs” I’ve told in recent months 🤔 Hi OSA!!
Do scientology better if you want to be healed.
Why do scientology at all if you "want to be healed?"
my friend is trying to leave a cult called MCI is there anyway I can contact you or someone to help him out
What’s that? Never heard of it
@@JahlenJohnson11I thought it was phone company.