Thank you Jesus! Yes, I would also like to have time for some new movies...but they are very time consuming. Maybe I'll lower my own expectations and make some that are still well done but not so many different subjects in the same movie!
At the end to retrieve the cambium saver you can attach your throwline to the rope to get a controlled descend of your cambium saver. loves your videos by the way =)
+Klaus Knudsen Hey Klaus ...yes it is a good way to protect the cambium saver, but I rarely use the method, partly because the surface mostly is soft and if there is a chance of hitting something hard, I use a cambiumsaver with steel rings instead of aluminum. Thanks for your response!
Thanks Hideakys Chan! The song??? It was some royalty free music that the program Final Cut contained about 8-9 years ago ... the file is just named "audio", so unfortunately, I can't get any closer.
@@JustJimJr Yes, those who have developed this method have been smart ... you just have to see it in action, then you get convinced that it actually works great. Climb safe
Hi Quinn! Friction savers is usually made for polyester webbing, so rain is no problem! I also let it hang in the tree if the task extends over several days. When I pull the rope down I attach a thin string to the loose end of the rope ... and use it to put the rope up in the tree the next day. If there should be something that polyester can not handle then it should be massive amounts of UV light for a long time (months I would think). But it is usually notches in the webbing or worn/notches rings that make it necessary to change a cambium saver. I usually replace mine every two years. Stay safe!
My throw line is still on the wheel, i take the end, put thtough big ring, tie to throw bag, throw over branch, then through small ring, attatch bay and pull.
Thanks for the great input Craig! I have also learned that version but I have often been entangled in situations where I had to separate the throw bag/throw line from the the friction saver as the standing part also had to go up the tree because the throwline was in unwanted complication with branches. But I'm also not a throw bag sniper.
hey, guys, I'm new to this but How would connect the free hanging rope to something? like... when you want to climb up the rope if one end of the rope is not connected to anything, the rope would just pull through the friction saver. this prob a stupid question but what do you attach the end of the rope to. I've searched and searched and I can't figure it out...
Hi, montgomery mchargue! You have to decide if you want to climb on Single Rope (SRT) or Double Rope (DRT) ... both systems require only 1 rope. Search for movies about "Double Rope Technique tree climbing" (DRT) or "Single Rope Technique tree climbing" (SRT). The difference, broadly speaking, is that SRT is with stationary rope/faster/hard and affects the anchor point in the tree twice your weight wenn it's tied to the base of the tree. DRT is with moving rope/slower/less hard and affects the anchor point with your weight. In order to change something that already was good enough, you can also find new movies where DRT is called MRS (Movable Rope System) and SRT is now called SRS (Stationary Rope Systems).
Very nice. Do you do work with srt or installing safety/emergency/access lines? I’m trying To come up with an efficient system that will get me into the tree quickly (big shot/cannon) with srt and then transfer to my drt while I work, leaving a safety line ready to go for aerial rescue if I have an accident. I’ve got the equipment but I’ve yet to work out a good efficient way of getting it done.
Soren that was the best showing yet, my question on retrieval the knot goes through one ring why does it catch other ring? Does it ever go through and leave friction saver up there, sorry for dumb question your videos are the best. Thanks.
Thanks Rudy! The one who doesn't ask is stupid all the life!" The friction saver (or cambium saver) avoids wear on rope and bark. At the same time, the rope slides easier because the resistance (friction) is much smaller on the smooth rings than if the rope should slide over a branch.
Very interesting but I still think it's better to have rope friction than metal friction. All climbing ropes, even static climbing ropes have a dynamic flexibility (elongation) so they can break a fall. Metal and carabiners don't have that flexibility and will break quicker when they hit each other.
Thanks Arnold! There are many right ways to do it and ways you personally prefer. But the cambium savers job is to protect the tree's cambium (during pruning tasks) and to protect the rope for wear (all jobs). The breaking strength of cambium saver and rope is almost the same (23-26kn) ... it requires a weight of over 200 kg to fall more than 10 meters before anyone needs to worry. I also choke the rope around the tree during slow ascent and descent (tree felling jobs), but if I have to work more from a point in the tree, then I don´t want to expose the rope to unnecessary wear and therefore I use cambium / friction saver. Climb safe!
Thanks for the reply. It's true about the weight and it's good to protect the tree. Almost every friction isn't good, metal on a rope isn't good either: * ua-cam.com/video/F723rIlW_No/v-deo.html * ua-cam.com/video/SaYy2c9mkKI/v-deo.html
Yes, you can also start by leading the throwline through the big ring before you throw the bag. But it will often worsen your throw. Therefore, I often pull the loose end of the throwline to through the big ring afterwards.
You covered in less than 2 minutes what other vids would probably take 1 hour to explain! Brilliant!
Thanks e pita!
This is exactly the explanation that is missing on most of other videos in yt! Thx
Thanks mariustv!
These videos and your explanations in the comments are immensely helpful. Thanks Soren !
Thanks!
Soren, I love your animated videos. It makes a lot clear for me (arborist trainee).
Thank you
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Great instructional! Thanks!
Thanks Cheetah!
We need more videos ! You better then the rest well explained video 💯👌
Thank you Jesus! Yes, I would also like to have time for some new movies...but they are very time consuming. Maybe I'll lower my own expectations and make some that are still well done but not so many different subjects in the same movie!
Thanks very much for giving such things
Thanks crazy_zone!
Лучший наглядный пример.
Спасибо @daddy_a.x.e!
This is brillant! Very usefull! Excellent!
Thanks Filippo!
At the end to retrieve the cambium saver you can attach your throwline to the rope to get a controlled descend of your cambium saver.
loves your videos by the way =)
+Klaus Knudsen Hey Klaus ...yes it is a good way to protect the cambium saver, but I rarely use the method, partly because the surface mostly is soft and if there is a chance of hitting something hard, I use a cambiumsaver with steel rings instead of aluminum. Thanks for your response!
For retrieval one loop needs to be small is it design like that?
I will try out a another thin rope for safe retrieving. Instead of the throwline.
I will keep you posted..
Awesome animation, this helps me,😄 TQ! (By the way, what is the bmg song?)
Thanks Hideakys Chan! The song??? It was some royalty free music that the program Final Cut contained about 8-9 years ago ... the file is just named "audio", so unfortunately, I can't get any closer.
Learned something new today. Thank you very much
Thanks Kiril!
Cool, good job and thank you
Thanks Wesley!
This Is the best. Animation Is the best way to get more hnow-how ❤️❤️❤️ thank you!
Thanks Mik Mik!
Good stuff👍
Thanks TD!
Nice illustration! Ile be using this to help training my crew. 👍
Thanks Jacob!
Great video
Thanks Phiro NoSurvivors! Have a nice xmas!
Great video for beginners
Thanks Neighborhood go 2 guy!
Saved to my library of vids. I'll be climbing come spring
Still gotta watch this 20 times to let it sink in. Anyone else? Lol
@@JustJimJr Yes, those who have developed this method have been smart ... you just have to see it in action, then you get convinced that it actually works great. Climb safe
@@SorenSatellit 👍thanks
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素晴らしい。
Nice
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Great Demo. 👍
Tkanks Ben!
Really cool system
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Freakin awesome video!!!!!!!
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@@SorenSatellit your welcome keep up the amazing work
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great video my friend! very helpful
Thanks Mr. Benitez!
Will rain hurt it? Can I leave it outside in the rain?
Hi Quinn! Friction savers is usually made for polyester webbing, so rain is no problem! I also let it hang in the tree if the task extends over several days. When I pull the rope down I attach a thin string to the loose end of the rope ... and use it to put the rope up in the tree the next day. If there should be something that polyester can not handle then it should be massive amounts of UV light for a long time (months I would think). But it is usually notches in the webbing or worn/notches rings that make it necessary to change a cambium saver. I usually replace mine every two years. Stay safe!
But How do you recover it without falling to the ground? lower it in a controlled manner.
Could you show us, please?
Very nice, thanks for video! :)
Thanks Pavel!
The climbing rope, is it a static rope or dynamic? :)
Hi Kieran! Rigging ropes are always static! In the description of most of my "real" movies about tree rigging, I have written what equipment is used!
Nice information for beginners!
Joseph Sambale Thanks Joseph
Good job!👍
Thanks Gerardo!
Класс!
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Gracias por la técnica.
Gracias por ver, Sigfrido! Mantenerse a salvo!
My throw line is still on the wheel, i take the end, put thtough big ring, tie to throw bag, throw over branch, then through small ring, attatch bay and pull.
Thanks for the great input Craig! I have also learned that version but I have often been entangled in situations where I had to separate the throw bag/throw line from the the friction saver as the standing part also had to go up the tree because the throwline was in unwanted complication with branches. But I'm also not a throw bag sniper.
Equipment
Sorry siren, I noticed one ring is larger, my apology. Keep great videos coming.
Thanks Rudy!
thank you goreat video
hey, guys, I'm new to this but How would connect the free hanging rope to something?
like... when you want to climb up the rope if one end of the rope is not connected to anything, the rope would just pull through the friction saver.
this prob a stupid question but what do you attach the end of the rope to. I've searched and searched and I can't figure it out...
Attached to trunk of the tree or another low point for a single rope climb or an attached Blake's or presick
Hi, montgomery mchargue! You have to decide if you want to climb on Single Rope (SRT) or Double Rope (DRT) ... both systems require only 1 rope. Search for movies about "Double Rope Technique tree climbing" (DRT) or "Single Rope Technique tree climbing" (SRT). The difference, broadly speaking, is that SRT is with stationary rope/faster/hard and affects the anchor point in the tree twice your weight wenn it's tied to the base of the tree. DRT is with moving rope/slower/less hard and affects the anchor point with your weight. In order to change something that already was good enough, you can also find new movies where DRT is called MRS (Movable Rope System) and SRT is now called SRS (Stationary Rope Systems).
@@SorenSatellit This helped me understand more about terminology too. Thank you.
@@gnuPirate Thanks SixSixSix!
Very nice. Do you do work with srt or installing safety/emergency/access lines? I’m trying To come up with an efficient system that will get me into the tree quickly (big shot/cannon) with srt and then transfer to my drt while I work, leaving a safety line ready to go for aerial rescue if I have an accident. I’ve got the equipment but I’ve yet to work out a good efficient way of getting it done.
Please show video of progress
Soren that was the best showing yet, my question on retrieval the knot goes through one ring why does it catch other ring? Does it ever go through and leave friction saver up there, sorry for dumb question your videos are the best. Thanks.
Thanks Rudy! The one who doesn't ask is stupid all the life!" The friction saver (or cambium saver) avoids wear on rope and bark. At the same time, the rope slides easier because the resistance (friction) is much smaller on the smooth rings than if the rope should slide over a branch.
One of the rings is a larger diameter then the other so the knot passes through the large one but catches on the smaller
Great video by the way - much easier to grasp whats going og with an animation
thank you for this nicely made video.
Thanks Naem! ...and thanks for watching!
Naem Rohman
i like your jobs man i would like to work with you.
+Ceferino González
Thanks Ceferino!
Very interesting but I still think it's better to have rope friction than metal friction.
All climbing ropes, even static climbing ropes have a dynamic flexibility (elongation) so they can break a fall.
Metal and carabiners don't have that flexibility and will break quicker when they hit each other.
Thanks Arnold! There are many right ways to do it and ways you personally prefer. But the cambium savers job is to protect the tree's cambium (during pruning tasks) and to protect the rope for wear (all jobs). The breaking strength of cambium saver and rope is almost the same (23-26kn) ... it requires a weight of over 200 kg to fall more than 10 meters before anyone needs to worry. I also choke the rope around the tree during slow ascent and descent (tree felling jobs), but if I have to work more from a point in the tree, then I don´t want to expose the rope to unnecessary wear and therefore I use cambium / friction saver. Climb safe!
Thanks for the reply.
It's true about the weight and it's good to protect the tree.
Almost every friction isn't good, metal on a rope isn't good either:
* ua-cam.com/video/F723rIlW_No/v-deo.html
* ua-cam.com/video/SaYy2c9mkKI/v-deo.html
Stage 5 cannot be done unless attached small ring of saver then throwing bag at step 1. Aaahh I see
Yes, you can also start by leading the throwline through the big ring before you throw the bag. But it will often worsen your throw. Therefore, I often pull the loose end of the throwline to through the big ring afterwards.
Is the author of this video left handed?
Yes ...or I have mirrored the drawing to optimize the reading direction!
Great video
Thanks Lance!