These are cool sound design tips and all, but many of these sounds are fine the way they are... These are just standalone sounds; in a mix, most don’t need to feel “full” or perfect for that matter. In fact, by layering in an attempt to add more frequency balance, you risk increasing masking & muddiness. It really depends on which sound you pick and, more importantly, why. And a fair amount of sounds here are definitely being overprocessed. For sound design, that’s cool-you can certainly get creative with it. But for making a solid mix, going in with the intention to process whatever you want to process will thin out the mix. Any experienced engineer will tell you to have a really good reason to add processing, and some will say to avoid processing if possible.
I was thinking the exact same thing, also if the original sample/noise isn't correct in the context of where you are using it then simply find one which is, that's the easiest way to fix the issues
this video didn’t really sit right with me, most of the sounds are actually fine the way they are. I don’t know why you always have to have a full frequency sound, sometimes sounds exist just to fill one frequency. it’s not that hard especially for someone with a lot of experience to understand
imo he made the sounds simply sound "better" with a technically correct approach (using compressors and EQs) while increasing the complexity. in the end its all subjective, there is no good or bad sound, i personally didnt like the gunshot either, he couldve gone into the direction of a code pandorum deathstep bass instead
tbh I think that a lot of these sounds weren't that bad and would work fine in their contexts. sure, they sound better alone now, but I think it's pretty bold to say that you have given the sound a direct upgrade as a lot of them post-edit aren't really usable in the same context as the initial sample
I think some of the "bad" sounds could be usable with less modification in certain settings. Maybe not a traditional song. Especially 6 and 9. Maybe I'm wrong but I think its possible that you intentionally want an annoying sound sometimes. Isnt nyan cat in this category, even if its milder? Maybe im getting it all wrong. (but i for sure love nyan cat) Still the video was helpful.
But I guess he has to make music that he likes to keep integrity so its still good to watch the video and obviously its stupid to expect him to know the music genre out of every music genre ever, which fits a particular sample the best.
Lol the person who sent in the gunshot sound actually sounded more like a gunshot than yours. It was just imitating certain kinds of Tommy gun or maybe LMG style machine guns, which can have that slightly fade-in, slicey sound. I do think his original sound could use a little boost to transients, or maybe just adding one in, but they were like 95% of the way there- didn’t really need to start from scratch haha.
While there is a lot of theory and technicality that goes into sound design, there is and always will be subjectivity and personal aesthetic preferences! :)
Realistic does not sound good for most people. People are used to movie sounds so that is what you make it sound like. It’s not correct but people like it more
Coming back to this video, I find the examples well demonstrated. Yes, at first I didn’t think some were that bad- but imagining the concepts presented really opens your eyes in terms of creative problem solving. Very good video. Thank you 🙏🏽
gonna be honest the original gunshot sample was more on point. generally for gunshot sounds its a LOT easier to just record a gunshot/get a gunshot sample. great video peter!
It's design is fine, but it has a weird modulation in some moments and i think it's really weak, but distortion and saturation may fix that. Good sound with bad mastering i guess.
@Mr. Nobody I don't try to copy his settings, I just do not know how to sound design with a vocoder (it has 4 different modes and various different knobs) you have to copy to know how it works. I am sure you watched other people using how to sound design a supersaw or other sound (bet you wouldn't have come up with a hoover or something else by yourself, before knowing at least how sounds are made) before you knew hot to do that and consequently were able to create your own sound threw the knowledge you've gained. Same for the vocoder, I do not know how it works (to that extent at least, like what all the knobs really do) and what to do to get better sounds with it. I never saw someone use a vocoder in that way before, just wanna see what he did to learn from it.
Please everybody, the key phrase in #1 was "If you have an UNTREATED room" Headphones have a tendency to lie. Please invest in room treatment with your home studio Anyways, super interesting video
@@Oversampled After re-reading my initial comment, I realized it may come off as very cross. I'm so sorry if I came across as such ;-; Well, with a well-made set of headphones made specifically for mixing, those are great. But having two speakers cupped right against each ear makes it a little hard to get a sense of "space" in your mix (reverb, delay, panning, ect). It gives it an overly wide perception of the sound being played. Headphones also sometimes have a very unnatural or "dishonest"- for lack of a better term - frequency response Monitors in a treated room are more flat-sounding (making it easier for you to find the little goblins in your mix) and give you a more realistic representation of stereo sound since monitors have a little crossfade. On that same token, I come from a background of recording and mixing metal, and my father in law mixes primarily rock and heavy metal. Our experiences may differ because of the genre(s) we main. It may not matter as much in certain contexts. Not to mention, if you don't have the space or money for monitors and room treatment (or solid mixing headphones) a set of half-decant headphones will substitute until you can accommodate.
Ight. So my sounds aren’t necessarily weak…but, they sound, and I don’t know how to describe it…loose? But not sonically. Like, subs are tight. Highs are clean. Mids are up to level. The track is balanced. But, for some reason….it sounds. Shit. I can’t even describe it. Like, It doesn’t sound quite right. But there is nothing explicitly popping out to me. Fuck. This hurts. Whatever the problem is, it’s definitely the problem. Because I don’t know what it is. But I know it’s there. And it fucking hurts me soul. It’s consistent too. Like…ight. Imma have to use analogies. It always sounds like my drops are diet virtual riot…bars. Like, it’s all there. The flavour is the same. The sweetness is there. But, for some reason you can tell it’s not professional. Like it’s missing something. But, if you were not given contrast, you might not notice….yeah. My drops are sounding sucrulose when I want sugar….ok fuck. That’s useless. That could mean like a million different things. I’ll point out specific things I notice. My subs tend to be overpowering. Yet, weak. Like, au5’s inflex is the reference track I use for subs. It’s both relatively balanced. But, those subs are thiiccc. Than, my basses sound loose. I like a sort of slurpy sounds. But, referencing some other tracks with similar properties, they all sound loose yet, tight. Like, you can hear the subtle transients of the bass. But, they aren’t gargly. And whenever I layer, it sounds like separate layers instead of one thing…my god. It’s a compression thing isn’t it. Welp. Lemme just try to further the ott, saturation and eq my top bass nd see what happens.
Bruh. I figured it out. For some reason it m biased towards adding too much 2k frequencies and not enough 10k. It makes sense too. 2k is the slurpy frequency.
Completely irrelevant but, this gave me an idea for a cleaner colour bass. So, In fl studio, there’s a patcher preset called “resonator”. Which you can rout to midi to give your sounds tonality. What I was thinking is, what if you used the same filter on two basses (one, on some au5 shit and one, just an organ patch or something basic like a hp’d square, playing the resonated notes) and routed one with “the resonator” and one with no fx on it to a vocoder. It’s be like…not all fucked up sounding. Cuz. In fl. I gotta like separate the track into mid and side channels. Than use only the mid channel to vocode with another mono tonal thing, otherwise the stereo shit gets all screwy (especially if the stereo information of the send is different than the bass). Than I gotta rout it all back together, glue em…realize the highs are still janky, so now I gotta just ott em. Realize the hpf on the vocoder is trash, and the Ott is just boosting some random ass feedback noises. Go back and noise gate. Nd now I have a bass that sounds like it has bad cell reception. So, yeah….just tried the thing I mentioned at the beginning of the comment. It kinda works. But, damn. Au5 and virtual riot are doing something spicy I’m not aware of. I heard au5 uses sooth 2 and a morph plugin to get “perfect vocoding”…but, I don’t have the funds required to aquifer such plugins. Plus, I think he just uses sooth as a resonator. So I have no idea how that’s different. Regardless. The closes I could get is to do all of the above, than de-ess the track. Thaaaan add a mid side ott. Than mid side eq it, cutting out some 1200hz from the side band and some 4000hz from everything. I’m going on a rant but, I wanna make sure I’m explaining myself in detail to get this final questions across. How tf do you do colour bass….why am I asking you? Cuz you can do it. However, all tutorials I’ve seen on UA-cam so far are just like “oh. Just vocode to a bunch of shit”. And than, the final product sounds like ass. And the comments are like “yoooooo. This shit saved me fam”. I want that goood, good colour bass. That mmmm. That, “bruh. Are you virtual riot?” Type colour bass. Ight. That’s my rant.
Try many things, tweak settings once it's close, eventually something good will come out of it. Sometimes you get lucky and it takes only a few minutes (especially if already have an ok sound to start with), but it can take an hour or two before it works out. When in doubt, add a bit of reverb, compress, shape transients, and/or EQ. It's more about how it sounds than what you used to get there. Better to try a lot of options than to focus on what you "should" do, but there are certainly a few things to avoid doing.
For shaping transients you can also use inverse compression. This will bring up the peaks above the set level and keep everything else at the original.
There is a point where too much ott is a thing. I think.most people don't want to use ott because it won't really fur a sound, if you want a wet sound there's no point adding itt just to make it wetter at the end
@@illford Nah, at least for the memes, more OTT = more better;) Yes, not really, but most of my projects benefit from a few percent OTT here and there. A bit spice, excitement, tonal balance in a single plugin - thats pretty nice to have
If your in Ableton theres a scale only option. Just mess around in thatvtill it sounds right. Realistically your just gonna have to learn a little bit of theory if you want to do it quickly
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what serum skin is that?
Vocoder tutorial plz
Would be amazing if you made a video (or a section) about the vocoder. It seems so powerful when you use it.
I agree ;)
UA-cam/Google vocode sidechain to audio!
yeah its powerful the most when you are virgin so it a gun for me xD
big agree with this
These are cool sound design tips and all, but many of these sounds are fine the way they are...
These are just standalone sounds; in a mix, most don’t need to feel “full” or perfect for that matter. In fact, by layering in an attempt to add more frequency balance, you risk increasing masking & muddiness. It really depends on which sound you pick and, more importantly, why.
And a fair amount of sounds here are definitely being overprocessed. For sound design, that’s cool-you can certainly get creative with it. But for making a solid mix, going in with the intention to process whatever you want to process will thin out the mix. Any experienced engineer will tell you to have a really good reason to add processing, and some will say to avoid processing if possible.
I’d just like to say that his channel name is “oversampled”. But agreed
came here to say this, you already did
Not to mention phase issues and the fact you will have to remove a lot of the frequencies you added to fit it into a mix.
Avoid processing deez nuts
I was thinking the exact same thing, also if the original sample/noise isn't correct in the context of where you are using it then simply find one which is, that's the easiest way to fix the issues
this video didn’t really sit right with me, most of the sounds are actually fine the way they are. I don’t know why you always have to have a full frequency sound, sometimes sounds exist just to fill one frequency. it’s not that hard especially for someone with a lot of experience to understand
defo the gun sound was not right
Yeah some people just like to get into the nitty gritties of sound design i guess.
especially if you want to have a separate subbass sound from the main sound
But, the goal was to improve on the sounds, it doesnt matter if some where fine, the litteral intention of the video was to build onto these sounds
imo he made the sounds simply sound "better" with a technically correct approach (using compressors and EQs) while increasing the complexity.
in the end its all subjective, there is no good or bad sound, i personally didnt like the gunshot either, he couldve gone into the direction of a code pandorum deathstep bass instead
tbh I think that a lot of these sounds weren't that bad and would work fine in their contexts. sure, they sound better alone now, but I think it's pretty bold to say that you have given the sound a direct upgrade as a lot of them post-edit aren't really usable in the same context as the initial sample
I think some of the "bad" sounds could be usable with less modification in certain settings. Maybe not a traditional song. Especially 6 and 9. Maybe I'm wrong but I think its possible that you intentionally want an annoying sound sometimes. Isnt nyan cat in this category, even if its milder? Maybe im getting it all wrong. (but i for sure love nyan cat)
Still the video was helpful.
But I guess he has to make music that he likes to keep integrity so its still good to watch the video
and obviously its stupid to expect him to know the music genre out of every music genre ever, which fits a particular sample the best.
I like 6, but I'm sorry 9 just is too much
Lol the person who sent in the gunshot sound actually sounded more like a gunshot than yours. It was just imitating certain kinds of Tommy gun or maybe LMG style machine guns, which can have that slightly fade-in, slicey sound. I do think his original sound could use a little boost to transients, or maybe just adding one in, but they were like 95% of the way there- didn’t really need to start from scratch haha.
Nah
@@prabothmalsha300 impressive counter argument
While there is a lot of theory and technicality that goes into sound design, there is and always will be subjectivity and personal aesthetic preferences! :)
Realistic does not sound good for most people. People are used to movie sounds so that is what you make it sound like. It’s not correct but people like it more
@@HarmonicDrone yeah but his was more real. And if your gonna make an irl sound realism is more important
Coming back to this video, I find the examples well demonstrated. Yes, at first I didn’t think some were that bad- but imagining the concepts presented really opens your eyes in terms of creative problem solving.
Very good video. Thank you 🙏🏽
7:46 dividing the sample below leaving a few miliseconds gap to avoid a volume spike, nice trick!
Issue 7:
five_nights_at_freddy_ shit_what_the_fuck
IT SOUNDS LIKE FNAF SHIT SO I NAMED IT LIKE THAT
wow who knew compression and distortion could make things sound "better"
"with 7 instances" 🤣🤣🤣🤣
If it works it works I guess lol
I love these types of videos, thank you!
05_Boface_Kick sounds great I agree
Coming with the GOLD as always, thanks! 🙌🏻
pancz been my number one plugin of 2022.. essential to my sound design
Thanks for featuring my sample at 4:24
the way you cut out the audio fx and blow them up and slowly zoom in is huge dude props on the editing
Thank you for these tips! Love it
thanks for the help in the vocal :)
gonna be honest the original gunshot sample was more on point. generally for gunshot sounds its a LOT easier to just record a gunshot/get a gunshot sample. great video peter!
Congratulations to the person who named the sound at 7:21 they made me laugh and I am disappointed that I did
LMAO THANK YOU
You probably wouldn't do half this stuff in context.
“Hi-hat loop: issue, too high pitched. You’re gonna want to give it some mids and bass”
The sound in issue 6 was perfectly fine imo. I can imagine it in a song, maybe a lol reverb but it sounds fine
It's design is fine, but it has a weird modulation in some moments and i think it's really weak, but distortion and saturation may fix that. Good sound with bad mastering i guess.
Someone probably doesn’t like Future Bass…
Your sounds weak?
Add more Distortion until it stronger
I mean its cool and all but some of what you’re doing is also doodoo
Lol so many gatekeepers in the comments
6:06 yoo it's my sample hahaha
Helpful
How did you set up the vocoder? (What settings did you use?)
@Mr. Nobody I don't try to copy his settings, I just do not know how to sound design with a vocoder (it has 4 different modes and various different knobs) you have to copy to know how it works. I am sure you watched other people using how to sound design a supersaw or other sound (bet you wouldn't have come up with a hoover or something else by yourself, before knowing at least how sounds are made) before you knew hot to do that and consequently were able to create your own sound threw the knowledge you've gained. Same for the vocoder, I do not know how it works (to that extent at least, like what all the knobs really do) and what to do to get better sounds with it. I never saw someone use a vocoder in that way before, just wanna see what he did to learn from it.
@@maxmeyer6395 try playing eith them using info mode
I switch vocoder to a modulator mode, then set bands to 40, full frequency range and then I tweak depth, formants, attack and release
Sound #10 sounds like the MicroFreak preset “Disrespectful” but without any of the disrespect left
9:51 isn't that just the Phantom Ruby from Sonic Forces?
8:46 i Made this sample in 2018 in serum and I didn't handle it so well 😅
Please everybody, the key phrase in #1 was "If you have an UNTREATED room"
Headphones have a tendency to lie. Please invest in room treatment with your home studio
Anyways, super interesting video
How so? If headphones send the audio straight into your ear, in the cleanest form
Is there anything else that should be taken into consideration?
@@Oversampled
After re-reading my initial comment, I realized it may come off as very cross. I'm so sorry if I came across as such ;-;
Well, with a well-made set of headphones made specifically for mixing, those are great. But having two speakers cupped right against each ear makes it a little hard to get a sense of "space" in your mix (reverb, delay, panning, ect). It gives it an overly wide perception of the sound being played. Headphones also sometimes have a very unnatural or "dishonest"- for lack of a better term - frequency response
Monitors in a treated room are more flat-sounding (making it easier for you to find the little goblins in your mix) and give you a more realistic representation of stereo sound since monitors have a little crossfade.
On that same token, I come from a background of recording and mixing metal, and my father in law mixes primarily rock and heavy metal. Our experiences may differ because of the genre(s) we main. It may not matter as much in certain contexts. Not to mention, if you don't have the space or money for monitors and room treatment (or solid mixing headphones) a set of half-decant headphones will substitute until you can accommodate.
Oversampled, sometimes you don't understand your viewers
Some solid examples there !! Well done, but I personally enjoy listening to anything weird..lol.
Can you make breakcore?
There is no sound that cannot be turned into amazing things! Thats where she lost herself in his words! 😂😂
I like the videos but sometimes disrespect the sounds Like they Not usable and your can Not use them
if you could make a Serum preset with the sound at 6:52 you would earn so much money...especially off me!
“Super Annoying” for sure dude 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Goat
#9 is neurobass and I think was fine... (Not that I like neurobass)
Maybe sound number 4 could be used to make a hyperpop song or something
Holy, he did overprocessed the sixth sample damn
I'm not gonna lie it's so hard to understand with your accent
Ight. So my sounds aren’t necessarily weak…but, they sound, and I don’t know how to describe it…loose? But not sonically. Like, subs are tight. Highs are clean. Mids are up to level. The track is balanced. But, for some reason….it sounds. Shit. I can’t even describe it. Like, It doesn’t sound quite right. But there is nothing explicitly popping out to me. Fuck. This hurts. Whatever the problem is, it’s definitely the problem. Because I don’t know what it is. But I know it’s there. And it fucking hurts me soul. It’s consistent too. Like…ight. Imma have to use analogies. It always sounds like my drops are diet virtual riot…bars. Like, it’s all there. The flavour is the same. The sweetness is there. But, for some reason you can tell it’s not professional. Like it’s missing something. But, if you were not given contrast, you might not notice….yeah. My drops are sounding sucrulose when I want sugar….ok fuck. That’s useless. That could mean like a million different things. I’ll point out specific things I notice. My subs tend to be overpowering. Yet, weak. Like, au5’s inflex is the reference track I use for subs. It’s both relatively balanced. But, those subs are thiiccc. Than, my basses sound loose. I like a sort of slurpy sounds. But, referencing some other tracks with similar properties, they all sound loose yet, tight. Like, you can hear the subtle transients of the bass. But, they aren’t gargly. And whenever I layer, it sounds like separate layers instead of one thing…my god. It’s a compression thing isn’t it. Welp. Lemme just try to further the ott, saturation and eq my top bass nd see what happens.
Bruh. I figured it out. For some reason it m biased towards adding too much 2k frequencies and not enough 10k. It makes sense too. 2k is the slurpy frequency.
This dude be mixing the shit out of a FNAF sound lmaoo
no its not a fnaf sound i made it 😭😭
@@reoakiodesu why would u send him this garbage?
@@lowlight1063 because it's garbage obv
Your videos really help me out
A “how to dubstep from scratch” series would be great 😃
Bonus Issue: Not Using Pancz !! >+
How is fake perception an issue with the sound
Which vocoder plug-in did you use?
pls make this a series, i learnd so much
why you lefting so much lows?
link dc?
damn im third
solid
Lol the ending see you next time
Completely irrelevant but, this gave me an idea for a cleaner colour bass. So, In fl studio, there’s a patcher preset called “resonator”. Which you can rout to midi to give your sounds tonality. What I was thinking is, what if you used the same filter on two basses (one, on some au5 shit and one, just an organ patch or something basic like a hp’d square, playing the resonated notes) and routed one with “the resonator” and one with no fx on it to a vocoder. It’s be like…not all fucked up sounding. Cuz. In fl. I gotta like separate the track into mid and side channels. Than use only the mid channel to vocode with another mono tonal thing, otherwise the stereo shit gets all screwy (especially if the stereo information of the send is different than the bass). Than I gotta rout it all back together, glue em…realize the highs are still janky, so now I gotta just ott em. Realize the hpf on the vocoder is trash, and the Ott is just boosting some random ass feedback noises. Go back and noise gate. Nd now I have a bass that sounds like it has bad cell reception. So, yeah….just tried the thing I mentioned at the beginning of the comment. It kinda works. But, damn. Au5 and virtual riot are doing something spicy I’m not aware of. I heard au5 uses sooth 2 and a morph plugin to get “perfect vocoding”…but, I don’t have the funds required to aquifer such plugins. Plus, I think he just uses sooth as a resonator. So I have no idea how that’s different. Regardless. The closes I could get is to do all of the above, than de-ess the track. Thaaaan add a mid side ott. Than mid side eq it, cutting out some 1200hz from the side band and some 4000hz from everything. I’m going on a rant but, I wanna make sure I’m explaining myself in detail to get this final questions across. How tf do you do colour bass….why am I asking you? Cuz you can do it. However, all tutorials I’ve seen on UA-cam so far are just like “oh. Just vocode to a bunch of shit”. And than, the final product sounds like ass. And the comments are like “yoooooo. This shit saved me fam”. I want that goood, good colour bass. That mmmm. That, “bruh. Are you virtual riot?” Type colour bass. Ight. That’s my rant.
can you make future riddim leotrix style (this is a challenge)
This video is a big improvement in quality from your other ones
Why can't it be as easy as you make it seem?
Don’t overthink it
Try many things, tweak settings once it's close, eventually something good will come out of it. Sometimes you get lucky and it takes only a few minutes (especially if already have an ok sound to start with), but it can take an hour or two before it works out.
When in doubt, add a bit of reverb, compress, shape transients, and/or EQ. It's more about how it sounds than what you used to get there. Better to try a lot of options than to focus on what you "should" do, but there are certainly a few things to avoid doing.
It's just pushing knobs tbh. You'll just yet into the flow of things eventually
this is sick
Fire gun tip
Amazing!
Sound designing samples
so so 🤔
Vraiment impressionnant ! 👍
For shaping transients you can also use inverse compression. This will bring up the peaks above the set level and keep everything else at the original.
How wrong am i if i guess that OTT is a multiband compressor ? It kinda looks like it.
It's a multiband dynamics processor that does both upward and downward compression usually at extremes hence Over The Top.
@@JimijaymesProductions I mean over the top is tye name if Ableton multiband preset it's based off of
good tips and ideas you give but this not in garageband so learning from this is impossible
Nice job! You're almost as good as me
I take offense to this video suggestion
Seems like most people don't know that OTT is free, or they don't know that there isn't too much OTT..
There is a point where too much ott is a thing. I think.most people don't want to use ott because it won't really fur a sound, if you want a wet sound there's no point adding itt just to make it wetter at the end
@@illford Nah, at least for the memes, more OTT = more better;)
Yes, not really, but most of my projects benefit from a few percent OTT here and there. A bit spice, excitement, tonal balance in a single plugin - thats pretty nice to have
“ put chords under it “ but how do I do that 😭
Try the tutorial and keep your info mode open if ur a beginner
If your in Ableton theres a scale only option. Just mess around in thatvtill it sounds right. Realistically your just gonna have to learn a little bit of theory if you want to do it quickly
Bro this is such a good video and soooo much to learn from plss do more!!!!
7:12 this sounds like a supersaw with extra steps
WHERE IS THE FREE PACC
Still working on it :)
ayo my sound made it
you did a great job with it damn i learned 😳
Yes, i need moooreeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
First tip awesome example 🤟
Good video straight to the point no bs
colour bass tutoriall pleeaseeee
ok this was fun...good shit
Holy shit I learned so much
Very informative
This is really helpfull ... thank!
Super interesting!
Epic info!!
so judging lmao
No 6 blew my mind.
what software do you use to edit your videos they are just on point!!
Premiere pro
@@Oversampled Thanks !! How Do You do Not To lose Quality On your Screen Recording?
How did you make your serum black ?!! Mine is greyish
Search for serum skins and how to install
Look for defrock basic skin
The only way to fix the one at 3:00 is to just delete it. Annoying as fuck.
The snare’s name at 7:22. 🤔
haha thats not a snare at least i didnt intend it to be
anyone know where i can find a synth preset like the one at 6:26 ? i use ableton and i have omnisphere and purity btw
That's just some supersaws you can make them yourself :)
Good advice for sounds in isolation, but in the context of mixing with other sounds or space, all of this information is irrelevant.
07 original was definintely better
yeah the mud is what gives it the horror tones
@@44gg37 lmaooo ty
fun fact: it was supposed to be an impact
Give me your Ableton skin please)