My god, studios really know how to F**K up a movie, don't they? I wouldn't care if this movie was 7 hours long...how Buddy magically re-appeared as been eating at me since I saw this movie in the theatre when it first came out. So happy I came across this video. Many Thanks for posting! My ALL TIME favorite Sports movie in Cinema history (and it's not even close).
I love the Deleted Scenes. My Cousin played Loretta, who was Cletus’s daughter. The Final Cut has her in the movie but all of her speaking lines were cut out. It’s nice to see her deleted scenes where she gets to speak. I was 6 years old when it came out and everyone always wanted to talk to me because “my cousin was in Hoosiers.”
I'd say 9 times out of ten (likely even more), the director's cut is superior to what the damn studio corporate weasels want. And why should that surprise anyone??
My hunch is they probably don't own the Intellectual Property that would allow them to do it. Or, if they did, they would not be the ones who benefit from such a release.
That's what struck me as well (although it's 'Witness'). 'Hoosiers' was released only a year after 'Witness', so maybe this scene wouldn't have had the impact it otherwise would and just reminded audiences of the earlier film.
SEVERAL OF THSE DELETED SCENES REALLY ADDS TO THE STORYLINE. AS SUGGESTED, A DIRECTORS CUT OR RUNNING THIS AFTER THE END WOULD BE NICE. NOW I'M GOING TO DO IT.
I had seen it several times before it came out on DVD back in the day but when it did the first thing I went to was the deleted scenes looking for one that showed how Buddy came back.
Buddy's disappearance and return was obviously the one huge plot hole the deleted scenes address. Even in the 1950s some states had very stiff rules about transfers, usually you had to sit out a whole school year unless your parents actually moved their family address to the new school district. So Buddy could not just decide one morning he wanted to go to Terhune instead of Hickory. So there definitely needed to be better explanation of Buddy walking out and then magically reappearing. Restoring the deleted scene does that.
It's also revealed in the deleted scenes that Buddy is the son of George (Chelcie Ross) which sheds a little new light on George's role as interim/assistant coach -- and also, Buddy's return to assume, essentially, the role of point guard, who is usually the on-court leader of the team.
You both made a great movie that will live forever. These scenes that were deleted (that we see here which is cool) were the right choices to make. If they were in, maybe the movie wouldn't be as great as it was? You could have had another player get kicked out or off the team and not came back (instead of Buddy in the beginning), and always had Buddy there?
I knew Texans were crazy about high-school sports, and now I know Hoosiers are too - and probably many others. Let's hear it for one of our nation's most beneficial pastimes!
glad i found this scene...but while the powers that be demanded the movie be under 2 hours..I still blame those responsible for cutting as there were other scenes that could have been cut that would not have invoked such controversy
Thank you. I've wanted to see these missing scenes for a long time. The European DVD release doesn't contain them. Hershey was great in her scenes, which is why her getting reduced to a minor character in the film's second half was so disappointing. Also, where is the scene that explains why Hackman is so angry about the player's school change (11.30). There are obviously more missing scenes.
I feel like they could have cut the bus scene where "Strap" tells the "Coach" about painting the bus white and then painting it back for games and adding the "Buddy" apology instead. Makes more sense.
I knew that high-school football was almost like a religion for some people in Texas. And now I know it was or is much the same high-school sports in Indiana 20:2720:31 - and prbly in a lot of other places too.
So the theatre can get extra viewings. Always about the money. You can't charge 50 % more for a 3 hour movie. Thats why you never see the long version of Cleopatra at movie theatre. Taking a 4 hour movie down to 3 12
That scene of Buddy asking to come back on the team was worse than not having a scene of him coming back. Who the hell was that girl? Good scene to cut.
The girl was the Principal’s daughter. Apparently all of her other speaking scenes were cut, so this scene wouldn’t have made much sense without her backstory but it would have been better than no explanation of Buddy’s return. Maybe they could have just reshot a scene with only Coach and Buddy?
@@ghostsofVTurbexSkysthelimitvid That could have taken the storyline in a whole different direction, heheh. 😳😳😳 Actually, I covered small town sports as a writer for about 20 years and it is not a totally unknown topic that almost all the single men leave town after high school so 40s-20s romances are not totally unheard of. Also, while Myra makes a snotty remark implying Norm is 50, Cletus' reference to Norm being at Buffalo State Teachers College in 1931 kind of implies he's about 42-43.
@@JStarStar00 yes, being a small town and small population in itself i think would make this for sure possible, besides, even now some women just dig older guys and thats the way it is :) thats cool lol
@@ghostsofVTurbexSkysthelimitvid The deleted scenes make it pretty clear Loretta is somewhat of the alpha female among the Hickory girls, although that's pretty much lost with the deleted scenes. In a couple of different shots she's shown sitting along with Myra as somewhat of a co-equal or BFF. Obviously the role of females in mid 50s small town society was not really the topic matter of "Hoosiers," but I can think of a fun scene that could have changed this. Say during the state tournament run, Myra observes the town is going bonkers about Jimmy and the rest of the players, and the girls are pretty much ignored. So Myra and Norm go out to the schoolyard to ask Loretta what she thinks about it. "It doesn't bother me," she says as she bounces the basketball. "Maybe by the time I have kids things will change." As she's talking, she shoots in a dozen shots in a row, just like Jimmy.
The only edit that was a problem was the one about Buddy. It was kind of weird to just see him back on the team. But that scene with the young girl flirting with Gene Hackman was even cringier than the romance with Barbra Hershey. All they should have done is shown a few quick shots of Buddy being miserable being a spectator. The scene where the dad dragged his kid back represented how intolerable it was to quit playing basketball so we didn't need to see another kid ask to come back.
I think the Buddy scene was crucial. But without the daughter of Cletus. I'm glad they cut her. She was irritating in all of the scenes she was in. I think they could have made a short scene with Buddy coming to talk to Norm that would have fit in the film time limit.
I enjoyed the scene with the opposing coach, but it wasn't necessary. All other scenes needed to he cut. None of these scenes redeem Myra Fleener who is the biggest shrew in modern movies. A terribly written character. The movie didn't need a love interest, and nobody would be interested in Myra Fleener.
My god, studios really know how to F**K up a movie, don't they? I wouldn't care if this movie was 7 hours long...how Buddy magically re-appeared as been eating at me since I saw this movie in the theatre when it first came out. So happy I came across this video. Many Thanks for posting! My ALL TIME favorite Sports movie in Cinema history (and it's not even close).
Agree. They definitely should have left that scene in.
I love the Deleted Scenes. My Cousin played Loretta, who was Cletus’s daughter. The Final Cut has her in the movie but all of her speaking lines were cut out. It’s nice to see her deleted scenes where she gets to speak. I was 6 years old when it came out and everyone always wanted to talk to me because “my cousin was in Hoosiers.”
They need to release a directors cut with all these scenes put back in
I'd say 9 times out of ten (likely even more), the director's cut is superior to what the damn studio corporate weasels want. And why should that surprise anyone??
Drove me crazy how buddy just came back magically
I've seen these deleted clips many times, and they are wonderful. Why don't y'all make your own "director's cut" of Hoosiers. Folks would love that!
It is due.
My hunch is they probably don't own the Intellectual Property that would allow them to do it. Or, if they did, they would not be the ones who benefit from such a release.
Gene Hackman was an absolute genius actor. I can't think of a bad movie where he was an actor.
These deleted scenes should be edited back into the film and then released in the theatres!
Apparently they can't do it because the film with the deleted scenes is too degraded.
@@Caroline-rv8wy Got two words for ya: A I ;-))
Thanks for this. Hoosiers is a great movie that I never tire of
Thank you for posting this. I just watched this for the first time in about 15 years and was very confused about Buddy 😂
Should've kept in the scene of Buddy apologizing; a shorter version of it.
Top 5 movie of all time
This movie is in my top 3 of all time magical
The towns people working the cornfield reminded me of the building the barn scene in wisdom.
That's what struck me as well (although it's 'Witness'). 'Hoosiers' was released only a year after 'Witness', so maybe this scene wouldn't have had the impact it otherwise would and just reminded audiences of the earlier film.
This is a beautiful piece put together!
Im glad the harvest scene was cut, but how Buddy came back was important
Thank you for posting. Answers a lot of questions from one of my favorite movies.
SEVERAL OF THSE DELETED SCENES REALLY ADDS TO THE STORYLINE. AS SUGGESTED, A DIRECTORS CUT OR RUNNING THIS AFTER THE END WOULD BE NICE. NOW I'M GOING TO DO IT.
I had seen it several times before it came out on DVD back in the day but when it did the first thing I went to was the deleted scenes looking for one that showed how Buddy came back.
Can you say "Director's Cut?". It's time.....what are we waiting for?
Buddy's disappearance and return was obviously the one huge plot hole the deleted scenes address.
Even in the 1950s some states had very stiff rules about transfers, usually you had to sit out a whole school year unless your parents actually moved their family address to the new school district. So Buddy could not just decide one morning he wanted to go to Terhune instead of Hickory.
So there definitely needed to be better explanation of Buddy walking out and then magically reappearing. Restoring the deleted scene does that.
It's also revealed in the deleted scenes that Buddy is the son of George (Chelcie Ross) which sheds a little new light on George's role as interim/assistant coach -- and also, Buddy's return to assume, essentially, the role of point guard, who is usually the on-court leader of the team.
You both made a great movie that will live forever. These scenes that were deleted (that we see here which is cool) were the right choices to make. If they were in, maybe the movie wouldn't be as great as it was?
You could have had another player get kicked out or off the team and not came back (instead of Buddy in the beginning), and always had Buddy there?
I knew Texans were crazy about high-school sports, and now I know Hoosiers are too - and probably many others. Let's hear it for one of our nation's most beneficial pastimes!
glad i found this scene...but while the powers that be demanded the movie be under 2 hours..I still blame those responsible for cutting as there were other scenes that could have been cut that would not have invoked such controversy
On my bucket list is visiting Hickory’s gym.
13:54 BUDDY. What I came looking for. There was a 5 boy team, you see one come back to make it 6, but when Jimmy starts they have 8.
If you watch close I think I saw 9 on one shot.
Thank you. I've wanted to see these missing scenes for a long time. The European DVD release doesn't contain them. Hershey was great in her scenes, which is why her getting reduced to a minor character in the film's second half was so disappointing. Also, where is the scene that explains why Hackman is so angry about the player's school change (11.30). There are obviously more missing scenes.
Hershey was the worst and most useless part of the movie. Could’ve done without her character altogether.
I would like to see the film with all the deleted scenes included.
I feel like they could have cut the bus scene where "Strap" tells the "Coach" about painting the bus white and then painting it back for games and adding the "Buddy" apology instead. Makes more sense.
I knew that high-school football was almost like a religion for some people in Texas. And now I know it was or is much the same high-school sports in Indiana 20:27 20:31 - and prbly in a lot of other places too.
Why was it so important to keep the movie under two hours? Many movies run way over 2 hours.
As good as Hoosiers was - I could watch a 4 hour version of it .
@@brianmeen2158 Same.
The movie studio wasn’t sure the movie would do well, and they insisted the movie runtime stays under 2 hours.
So the theatre can get extra viewings. Always about the money. You can't charge 50 % more for a 3 hour movie. Thats why you never see the long version of Cleopatra at movie theatre. Taking a 4 hour movie down to 3 12
That scene of Buddy asking to come back on the team was worse than not having a scene of him coming back. Who the hell was that girl? Good scene to cut.
The girl was the Principal’s daughter. Apparently all of her other speaking scenes were cut, so this scene wouldn’t have made much sense without her backstory but it would have been better than no explanation of Buddy’s return. Maybe they could have just reshot a scene with only Coach and Buddy?
The deleted scenes give somewhat of an impression Loretta is hot for Norm.
Obviously the Buddy scenes are crucial to the storyline making sense.
yeah, she likes him :)
@@ghostsofVTurbexSkysthelimitvid That could have taken the storyline in a whole different direction, heheh.
😳😳😳
Actually, I covered small town sports as a writer for about 20 years and it is not a totally unknown topic that almost all the single men leave town after high school so 40s-20s romances are not totally unheard of.
Also, while Myra makes a snotty remark implying Norm is 50, Cletus' reference to Norm being at Buffalo State Teachers College in 1931 kind of implies he's about 42-43.
@@JStarStar00 yes, being a small town and small population in itself i think would make this for sure possible, besides, even now some women just dig older guys and thats the way it is :) thats cool lol
@@ghostsofVTurbexSkysthelimitvid
The deleted scenes make it pretty clear Loretta is somewhat of the alpha female among the Hickory girls, although that's pretty much lost with the deleted scenes. In a couple of different shots she's shown sitting along with Myra as somewhat of a co-equal or BFF.
Obviously the role of females in mid 50s small town society was not really the topic matter of "Hoosiers," but I can think of a fun scene that could have changed this.
Say during the state tournament run, Myra observes the town is going bonkers about Jimmy and the rest of the players, and the girls are pretty much ignored.
So Myra and Norm go out to the schoolyard to ask Loretta what she thinks about it.
"It doesn't bother me," she says as she bounces the basketball. "Maybe by the time I have kids things will change."
As she's talking, she shoots in a dozen shots in a row, just like Jimmy.
@@JStarStar00 I'd watched the movie a hundred times and never noticed her at all. It seems crazy they deleted her out the way they did
Daughter of Cletus had her who part end up on the editing room floor…
Then recut the movie!
Has a Director's Cut been released?!?
i wouldn't have missed barbara hershey one bit.
The only edit that was a problem was the one about Buddy. It was kind of weird to just see him back on the team. But that scene with the young girl flirting with Gene Hackman was even cringier than the romance with Barbra Hershey. All they should have done is shown a few quick shots of Buddy being miserable being a spectator. The scene where the dad dragged his kid back represented how intolerable it was to quit playing basketball so we didn't need to see another kid ask to come back.
I think the Buddy scene was crucial. But without the daughter of Cletus. I'm glad they cut her. She was irritating in all of the scenes she was in. I think they could have made a short scene with Buddy coming to talk to Norm that would have fit in the film time limit.
Chip hilton clair bee like second chances .
The only one of the scenes that I thought was pretty bad was that dinner scene. It was really really cringy
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Never cared much for the Myra Fleener character. Heard Barbara Hershey didn’t care much for Indiana.
And Gene Hackman was very difficult to work with on set
I enjoyed the scene with the opposing coach, but it wasn't necessary. All other scenes needed to he cut. None of these scenes redeem Myra Fleener who is the biggest shrew in modern movies. A terribly written character. The movie didn't need a love interest, and nobody would be interested in Myra Fleener.
Thank you for this.......ive always wondered about buddy getting back on the team
I thought that Hackman hated this Director?