Australia should be partitioned and one half parts goes to white amglos and the other half goes to all the minorities like Aborigines, Asian, Pacific Islanders etc.
Amy King makes a lot of sense about SE Asians seeing economics + security as a package deal, not binary. That's because greater economics mean greater mutual dependence, hence better trust. That Amy is under surveillance and harassment as an Australian interacting with Chinese and Chinese-Australian students is shocking. Is Australia being coerced into this anti-China stance?
USA controls too much of Australia and too many Australians, Why anyone is worried about China and not USA baffles me, USA has destroyed more so call friendly countries to compared to China which is NONE.. We need to get USA out of Australia before they do to us what they have done to Americans, majority of whom live below the poverty line, while the elitist USA leaders lord it as kings Ignnorant at they are
The CCP has done a pretty good job itself with it's threats against us and our country for the last decade.. This comment here "Is Australia being coerced into this anti-China stance?" still shows the CCP has no accountability for it's own actions..
It's an interesting comment to make "under surveillance and harassment", you could say the same about how we are on a CCP data base and under surveillance plus the illegal harassment pro CCP do to Australians who do not support the CCP here in Australia.. We are not apart of CCP china their rules and laws do not apply to us so why are they trying to enforce them in our country..
@@JPT-fz8wc I thought I replied but youtube must have censored it. I mentioned China has a no-first strike nuke policy. US hasn't. If the US decides to use first-strike nukes, they will be from Japan, Philippines and Australia (Pine Gap). These countries will obviously receive counter-strike. Russia, UK, France will also be drawn in, wiping out humanity. That's it's important for all of us to help de-escalate the US-China rivalry. Why not for a change get out of the MSM echo chambers to understand why so many foreign UA-camrs in China don't see China as a threat to US or Australia? For a start, try Australian Jerry Grey who has cycled all over China, including Xinjiang. Another is John Lander (not a UA-camr) the ex-Ambassador who has to use a sermon in a church to say that China is not Australia's enemy because MSM would let him say it.
Great discussions thank you. Pity Aust took on the US dictat that we refer to our region as 'IndoPacific' - reflective of the US pivot - instead of insisting that we will retain our label, AsiaPacific. Aust's unquestioning following of the US is unfortunate in a region characterised by long term pragmatism and independence - a stance the reveals that China's increasing confidence on the global stage is not seen as a threat - unlike the attitude of the West.
Try summarizing each speaker's contribution into input assertions for a formally logical argument for action. Impossible. While we fluff around, the ADF shamefully surrenders all missions to US command.
It's pretty simple we should be maintaining our position with a focus predominantly on Oceania, Australia, NZ and the Pacific Islands.. Then we continue our trade with ASEAN and South East Asia replacing our china trade with South East Asia trade to help grow ASEAN countries economies.. Indonesia is in a good position where within a decade or two they will become the central power in South East Asia and we should be helping Indo to make sure ASEAN economies grow with Indonesia as the South East Asia central power.. It's a tough pill for the CCP to swallow reality is the ASEAN countries need the economic growth more than china does, South East Asia and us Oceania are not here to prop up the chinese economy our own economies comes first.. We should be trading more with ASEAN then the ASEAN countries manufacture ours and their own resources instead of china manufacturing them, the ASEAN can sell them to china to help ASEAN economies grow instead of china manufacturing and selling them to ASEAN countries so the chinese economy grows more, ASEAN economic growth will also increase trade amongst ASEAN countries and expanding trade globally..
Correct Australia is not in asia nor are we in Europe or USA, they are all different continents.. Australia, New Zealand and the Pacific islands are our own continent called Oceania.. This video is not about us joining Asia it is about how we can continue to help our neighbours in Asia while maintaining trade with Asia when the CCP is trying to force it's dominance over other countries in Asia and Oceania..
@@waynegore5291 I see you are still failing with basic geography.. Maybe you should do your research on continents before you make yourself look like an even bigger uneducated fool.. :) lol
Australia often interferes in West Papua which is clearly part of Indonesian sovereignty. Have they forgotten what they did to the Aborigines or do they want to create an Aborigine 2.0 project?
Indonesia is in the position of placing itself as the leading country in South East Asia, i think Indonesia would be a better country to fill that position instead of china, Indonesia is apart of South East Asia china is not, china's apart of central asia.. I don't know who is worse at redrawing borders, china trying to say Oceania is apart of Asia or the US trying to push us all into one basket calling us the Indo Pacific..
Australia is not in Asia and is not an asian country. Asia and Australia are both seperate continents . Asia is in then northern Hemisphere and Australia is in the southern hemisphere. Australia is a pacific country like New Zealand or Fiji, it is not an asian country. Australia has a majority non asian ethnic makeup and western culture not an asian culture
Excellent question: Why SE Asians see Australians as so antagonistic towards China. These countries have millennia of interactions with China (and India) but not colonised. Without that irrational fear (often exploited by US strategists) of China, SE Asians will promote bilateral relations with both China and the US.
True Victor Gao threatening to nuke our country on his ABC News interview is not provocative, same as other CCP officials making threats to us with their wolf dimplomacy.. The CCP starting a 1 way trade war with us when we tell them NO to the list of demands they gave our country.. The CCP tried to put a pro CCP official in our government, foreign interference.. Pro CCP in our country harassing and threatening people in our country who do not support the CCP.. Cyber hacks, data collecting, scams and money laundering.. That must be all USA and Australia making the CCP break laws to do it, If it is good enough for the CCP to do it to us in our country does that mean we can go to china and enforce our rules and laws on them.. It's always everyone else's fault the CCP never has accountability for their own actions..
Funniest was us being told that getting our non nuclear armed SSN was an escalation meanwhile CCP mass producing nuclear warheads is not an escalation especially after victor Gao threaten to nuke our country on national tv with his ABC News interview with Stan Grant.. Yean that makes sense..
CCP china mass producing nuclear warheads is not seen as an escalation in South East Asia, sooo if us Aussies choose to leave the Non Nuclear treaty agreement and build our own nuclear warheads or obtain them from our allies than that is not an escalation either..
@@JPT-fz8wc Wow, you are certainly in echo chambers. PRC declares no first-use of nukes. US has not. If US decides to launch first-strike nukes, it will be from Japan, Philippines and Australia, not US. These countries will receive the counter strikes. Russia, UK, France will also be drawn in. By then humanity would have vanished. The important thing is to de-escalate the US-China rivalry and stop the fear and war mongering by MSM. Do yourself a favour. Get out of the echo chamber for a little while to understand why many foreign vloggers in China are saying. Australian Jerry Grey on UA-cam is a start. He does answer questions you may want to pose.
It's interesting to see in the comments how many people do not know Australia is our own continent called Oceania,
Australia is a part of the United States of America. Not Asia, for certain. In Asia, Australia is an outcaste.
Australia is uncomfortable in Asia... prefers to be in the North Atlantic😂😂😂
Australia should be partitioned and one half parts goes to white amglos and the other half goes to all the minorities like Aborigines, Asian, Pacific Islanders etc.
Amy King makes a lot of sense about SE Asians seeing economics + security as a package deal, not binary. That's because greater economics mean greater mutual dependence, hence better trust.
That Amy is under surveillance and harassment as an Australian interacting with Chinese and Chinese-Australian students is shocking. Is Australia being coerced into this anti-China stance?
It is indeed a shame for scholars who speak truth to power to be facing such scrutiny.
USA controls too much of Australia and too many Australians, Why anyone is worried about China and not USA baffles me, USA has destroyed more so call friendly countries to compared to China which is NONE.. We need to get USA out of Australia before they do to us what they have done to Americans, majority of whom live below the poverty line, while the elitist USA leaders lord it as kings Ignnorant at they are
The CCP has done a pretty good job itself with it's threats against us and our country for the last decade.. This comment here "Is Australia being coerced into this anti-China stance?" still shows the CCP has no accountability for it's own actions..
It's an interesting comment to make "under surveillance and harassment", you could say the same about how we are on a CCP data base and under surveillance plus the illegal harassment pro CCP do to Australians who do not support the CCP here in Australia.. We are not apart of CCP china their rules and laws do not apply to us so why are they trying to enforce them in our country..
@@JPT-fz8wc I thought I replied but youtube must have censored it. I mentioned China has a no-first strike nuke policy. US hasn't. If the US decides to use first-strike nukes, they will be from Japan, Philippines and Australia (Pine Gap). These countries will obviously receive counter-strike. Russia, UK, France will also be drawn in, wiping out humanity. That's it's important for all of us to help de-escalate the US-China rivalry.
Why not for a change get out of the MSM echo chambers to understand why so many foreign UA-camrs in China don't see China as a threat to US or Australia? For a start, try Australian Jerry Grey who has cycled all over China, including Xinjiang. Another is John Lander (not a UA-camr) the ex-Ambassador who has to use a sermon in a church to say that China is not Australia's enemy because MSM would let him say it.
Great discussions thank you.
Pity Aust took on the US dictat that we refer to our region as 'IndoPacific' - reflective of the US pivot - instead of insisting that we will retain our label, AsiaPacific.
Aust's unquestioning following of the US is unfortunate in a region characterised by long term pragmatism and independence - a stance the reveals that China's increasing confidence on the global stage is not seen as a threat - unlike the attitude of the West.
As long as Australia continues to be attached to North America's United States and gives its soul to North America, it is not an Asian country!
Since when is Oceania Asia..?? Are you trying to redraw borders again like the CCP thinks it owns all of the South China Sea..
Australia's body is in Asia but its heart is located in the West.
Since when did Oceania become Asia..?? Come on mate this is basic geography you can do better than that..
Is Australia in Asia? Physically, maybe, but the thinking is strangely Anglo-Saxon. It is unable to break its chains and to think for itself.
No we are not Australia is our own continent and we are apart of Oceania, did they not teach you basic geography in primary school..??
phyically Australia is not in asia, its a seperate continent and in the pacific not asia
Try summarizing each speaker's contribution into input assertions for a formally logical argument for action. Impossible. While we fluff around, the ADF shamefully surrenders all missions to US command.
"Summerising" interesting you being someone who does not support USA although you use American grammar..??
Australia shares a border with Indonesia but instead gets crisis immigrants from the Middle East. A big of joke 😂😂😂
It's pretty simple we should be maintaining our position with a focus predominantly on Oceania, Australia, NZ and the Pacific Islands.. Then we continue our trade with ASEAN and South East Asia replacing our china trade with South East Asia trade to help grow ASEAN countries economies.. Indonesia is in a good position where within a decade or two they will become the central power in South East Asia and we should be helping Indo to make sure ASEAN economies grow with Indonesia as the South East Asia central power.. It's a tough pill for the CCP to swallow reality is the ASEAN countries need the economic growth more than china does, South East Asia and us Oceania are not here to prop up the chinese economy our own economies comes first.. We should be trading more with ASEAN then the ASEAN countries manufacture ours and their own resources instead of china manufacturing them, the ASEAN can sell them to china to help ASEAN economies grow instead of china manufacturing and selling them to ASEAN countries so the chinese economy grows more, ASEAN economic growth will also increase trade amongst ASEAN countries and expanding trade globally..
Australia is in europe and america. NOT in asia.
Yes mentally they are in mid Atlantic between Europe and North America 🙄
@@thecomment9489or better, brainlessly
Correct Australia is not in asia nor are we in Europe or USA, they are all different continents.. Australia, New Zealand and the Pacific islands are our own continent called Oceania.. This video is not about us joining Asia it is about how we can continue to help our neighbours in Asia while maintaining trade with Asia when the CCP is trying to force it's dominance over other countries in Asia and Oceania..
@JPT-fz8wc
Yes, australia is nowhere! LOL.
BTW, dont mix new zealand with you.
@@waynegore5291 I see you are still failing with basic geography.. Maybe you should do your research on continents before you make yourself look like an even bigger uneducated fool.. :) lol
Australia often interferes in West Papua which is clearly part of Indonesian sovereignty. Have they forgotten what they did to the Aborigines or do they want to create an Aborigine 2.0 project?
Indonesia is in the position of placing itself as the leading country in South East Asia, i think Indonesia would be a better country to fill that position instead of china, Indonesia is apart of South East Asia china is not, china's apart of central asia.. I don't know who is worse at redrawing borders, china trying to say Oceania is apart of Asia or the US trying to push us all into one basket calling us the Indo Pacific..
Australia is not in Asia and is not an asian country. Asia and Australia are both seperate continents . Asia is in then northern Hemisphere and Australia is in the southern hemisphere. Australia is a pacific country like New Zealand or Fiji, it is not an asian country. Australia has a majority non asian ethnic makeup and western culture not an asian culture
Is the charman of the board, a USA tool?
Absolutely, do you really need a confirmation?
Australian heart beats doesn’t sync with the Asian, the narrative has always been you win and they lose. At the end, play with yourself
Excellent question: Why SE Asians see Australians as so antagonistic towards China. These countries have millennia of interactions with China (and India) but not colonised. Without that irrational fear (often exploited by US strategists) of China, SE Asians will promote bilateral relations with both China and the US.
True Victor Gao threatening to nuke our country on his ABC News interview is not provocative, same as other CCP officials making threats to us with their wolf dimplomacy.. The CCP starting a 1 way trade war with us when we tell them NO to the list of demands they gave our country.. The CCP tried to put a pro CCP official in our government, foreign interference.. Pro CCP in our country harassing and threatening people in our country who do not support the CCP.. Cyber hacks, data collecting, scams and money laundering.. That must be all USA and Australia making the CCP break laws to do it, If it is good enough for the CCP to do it to us in our country does that mean we can go to china and enforce our rules and laws on them.. It's always everyone else's fault the CCP never has accountability for their own actions..
Funniest was us being told that getting our non nuclear armed SSN was an escalation meanwhile CCP mass producing nuclear warheads is not an escalation especially after victor Gao threaten to nuke our country on national tv with his ABC News interview with Stan Grant.. Yean that makes sense..
CCP china mass producing nuclear warheads is not seen as an escalation in South East Asia, sooo if us Aussies choose to leave the Non Nuclear treaty agreement and build our own nuclear warheads or obtain them from our allies than that is not an escalation either..
@@JPT-fz8wc Wow, you are certainly in echo chambers. PRC declares no first-use of nukes. US has not. If US decides to launch first-strike nukes, it will be from Japan, Philippines and Australia, not US. These countries will receive the counter strikes. Russia, UK, France will also be drawn in. By then humanity would have vanished.
The important thing is to de-escalate the US-China rivalry and stop the fear and war mongering by MSM.
Do yourself a favour. Get out of the echo chamber for a little while to understand why many foreign vloggers in China are saying. Australian Jerry Grey on UA-cam is a start. He does answer questions you may want to pose.
Australian doesn’t know where they are.
Yeah we do, we are our own continent called Oceania.. It's seems you and most in the comment section do not even know basic geography.. lmao