We tried a 10mm grooving and it was too intense!
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- Опубліковано 15 вер 2024
- Efficiently reduces machining time of wide width grooving and forming!
TungHeavyGroove
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Tool model No.
Insert：PSGM10-080 AH725
Holder：FPGR3232P-10T36
Cutting condition
Vc = 100 m/min
f = 0.25 mm/rev
Work material：C45
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I thought there's 2 kind of machinists, those who think vernier calipers are pretty much all you'll need and those who think calipers are waste of money because you need set of micrometers anyway. I see player 3 has entered the game.
You forgot player 4. The tape measure.
@@delta3eight yer fired.
@@vizanonn1728 I see you can’t handle the fatmax.
@@delta3eight they're the ones manufacturing consumer goods that are marketed as aerospace grade? 😆
@@topiuusi-seppa5277 HAHA yes spot on
My lathe starts to chatter just by the look of an 1mm parting insert...
You too huh? I ended up making a guide for the tool holder and I use my porta band instead.
What size/make/age is your machine?
Same
Same here man mine would chatter so hard it would be looking like it was an earthquake and the machine had parkinson's
@@pvtimberfaller 2m long and from 1919, so not the best condition
I'm not a machinist, I'll admit that, but why did you need to remove that much material just to cut off a piece of stock?
Just for the sake of demonstration. Typically cutting fluid is used, but this was a dry run as well.
Very overkill, but as far as i know you should use a wider insert the bigger diameter you are going to part off
الكثير ربما لم يفهم المغزي من هذه السكين، لكن في الحقيقة هذه سكين مهمة جدا وخصوصا اذا كنت تريد قطع اقراص متساوية من الاستيل بمقاس 10 ملي او 30 او40 ملي فهي مثالية بدقة القطع مع التشذيب بآن واحد.. انا احتاج الي واحدة من هذه.
That's what I'm thinking
I definitely agree,b'cuz that's just too much material wasted,I wouldn't like it either.And if,I were the customer,I'd be wondering who is gonna pay for that material, if it comes-up short on the # count
а нахрена переводить на стружку 10мм? ну возьми отрезной резец поуже. экономика должна быть экономной
Или вообще ленточной распилить, а потом при надобности вывести плоскость
Это показ возможности резца, а так вырезать пазик пойдёт
@@ЮтубСталкерович какая тут возможность? Открываешь каталог того же taegutec и офигеваешь от возможностей.
Тогда уж сразу взять нажовку по металлу😂
@@user-ke3jw1ys1k есть пилы на производстве промышленные ленточные.
Your scrap is a bit high! You cut with a 10mm blade to get a 10mm piece😅
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The wastage is huge..
Thought the same thing. A bit overkill.
Quality Speed Cost usually you only get to pick 2. This might change that in certain situations? I'm clueless tho
Huge markup no need
My favorite part of this video is how he didn’t get a 10 foot pipe to tighten the screw. If I had a dollar for every time I had to get a stripped screw out…
Use a torque screwdriver. That's what we used when making plane engine parts
@@bredeabrahamsen I thought electric screwdrivers were a waste until my apprenticeship. I'm seriously thinking about it now, with all the stuff I have to do. 99% of what I tighten just needs to be snug.
Oh my god yes! When ever I’m taking a job down the screws are stupid tight! What is it with Machinists and tightening down with all there might!
@@MrDudetheassassin Maybe the fear of flying parts causes a lot of them to just over tighten EVERYTHING outta habit lol
@@MrDudetheassassinVibration bad, tight good
素晴らしい超硬チップだ…
クーラント無しでこのツヤツヤ切削面…
これは切削が絶対楽しくなるやつですな
最高の褒め言葉ありがとうございます！
一社員ですが、これだけしっかり重切削出来る工具を開発、製造、販売しているチームタンガロイを誇りに思います！
I feel like machine weight should also be included in the parameters of demo cuts 😂
These are some stout, heavy machines to absorb the vibrations of that cutter
That's no moon...
@perfectstranger1152 That's a pretty aggressive rake and chip breaker on the insert. I would like to see the finish if it was used to cut a groove as opposed to showing a parting operation.
@@dilligafmofo5921 same
@@dilligafmofo5921 yeah makes no sense to use for parting. that would be alot of lost material in chips. Would like to see it cut a deep wide shoulder or something.
Выгоднее ленточной пилой отрезать и потом выровнять уже на токарке. А так, сколько металла просто в расход
This is about how crazy that cutting tip, not about wasted material, how precise he cut and measure, or else
@@donzone1641 это был комментарий от русского человека😄 тебе не понять, что русские, после обработки детали, дорабатывают всё напильником😂 и, такие понятия как допуски для них, не более чем условности😂 иначе как ты объяснишь безотказность всей линейки автоматов АК😂 короче говоря, чтоб ты понимал: у русских, на кухне есть специально отведенное место в промежутке между холодильником и стеной для пакета из супермаркета, в котором они хранят множество других таких же пакетов, которые заранее выстираны, высушены и аккуратно сложены...а теперь угадай, для чего они это делают?!🤔
Это просто рабочая демонстрация
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@@ПользовательИгрок У англиков тоже пакеты в пакетах... Так что хавальник свой завали
Эт точно
I need to tag cutting edge engineering
Nice, I watch that Aussie as well lol his blue nose is super cute.
Measure it with a mic, mark it with chalk, cut it with an axe!
クーラント無しはいつ見ても心臓に悪い
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加工中はドキドキでした。音が凄かったです！
チップがデカくて内径がが歪みそうですw
@@user-te4mn6hf1x 加工中も凄い音してますが、ブレーカーが良く効いているので加工自体は安定しております！
技術の進化だと思います。
@@オレはイケメン Это плохая экономия, согнать много метала в стружку
切削音と切り粉がタケノコみたいになる凄い‼️音が軽やか‼️昔ここまで切り込み入れるとキーキーキーキーと唸り切削面削り痕がうっすら残った❗凄い切れ味表面がキレイに輝いている😊凄い技術ですね‼️
コメントありがとうございます！そう言って頂けて嬉しいです！インサートにブレーカーが付いていて、切屑処理が抜群でございます。推奨の切削油を使用して加工頂ければ、性能、寿命、面品位もさらに向上致します！
You know i never get tired of watching these, the best ones are the more complex machining
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Let us see those chips!
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I want to eat them
@@Faruzan420 Mmmm, forbidden chips. 🤤
That’s impressive parting!
Sometimes, though… “Parting can be such sweet sorrow”!😮
The video looped like 5 times, before I realized I was watching a repeat of the same clip. And by the 4th time, I'm like, "Why does have to change the tool each time?"
What's the point in measuring the piece?
We're here for 10 mm groove!
This is a demonstration that even heavy cutting can be processed without problems!
We have two of these (left and right hand) with 10mm inserts. We use them for deep grooving in stainless forgings.
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Thank you for using our products.
How does it feel to use?
I'd use the band saw lol
Самое правильное решение!!! На видео получается, что больше половины металла уходит в стружку!((((
I'd use a cold saw.
What's the name of the band ?
Cutting Crew ?
Good move
Nice work! I had the privilege of working for GE developing 40 Watt Plasma Rifles back in the 80’s. We reached out to Mitsubishi Electric to develop some of the early PCBN machining tools. This also solved the ionic transfer problems and short tool life using HPP carbides in the beginning. The budget was not a factor back then so these inventions could happen.
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Круто! Отрезал заготовку 10 мм и ещё 10 мм перевёл в стружку 😂
спасибо!
Я был бы счастлив, если бы вы могли так сказать
الكثير ربما لم يفهم المغزي من هذه السكين، لكن في الحقيقة هذه سكين مهمة جدا وخصوصا اذا كنت تريد قطع اقراص متساوية من الاستيل بمقاس 10 ملي او 30 او40 ملي فهي مثالية بدقة القطع مع التشذيب بآن واحد.. انا احتاج الي واحدة من هذه.
شكرا لك على اهتمامك!
I noticed the feed was too fast on that particular insert.
Was this released on 1st April . 10mm parting tool to produce a 10mm wide product, thats a load of waist
Certainly that spindle has nice torque characteristics..
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These videos are so satisfying
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Охуенно, 10мм - заготовка, 10мм - стружка. Э - экономичность
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отрезным 5 мм глубиной больше 40 мм не залезешь. может 45 максимум.
Absolutely amazing.. I'd imagine that insert has to have very good Thermal Conductivity to carry insane amounts of heat away from cutting edge
The breaker on the cutting edge works well,
Chips are handled very smoothly!
They are also more effective and last longer if coolant is used.
That is an insanely thick parting tool, it seems like a lot of wasted material there
It's a grooving tool. Not intended for parting, this was a stunt.
Too intense is when my lathe starts chattering under a heavy cut because its not rigid enough… The most intense time happened so fast it could not be stopped. Chatter on a grooving tool made the tool dig in then rip out of the tool holder and shoot across the room. I should note this machine is not modern and has no guards.
Thank you for your valuable opinion.
Be very careful when working.
10mm cutter to make 10mm cookie.
Looked perfectly fine to me. “Too intense” my ***.
The biggest grooving tool that I have is 8mm, but I would love to try that one.
They should comp you one.
Thank you for your interest!
We have a lineup up to 25 mm, and if it is a special product, we can process a higher area.
tungaloy.com/product/grooving/tungheavygroove/
I am always impressed by your demonstration, but also please stay safe, amazing tools mate.
Thank you for watching the video!
And thank you for your concern!
We will continue to do our best to provide better movie!
You can see how the shavings go from silver to yellowish to blue. The amount of friction...
Incremental buildup
Water jet and diamond wire machining are on their way up
These machining videos are so comfortable to watch..!!! 🥰👍🏼🤘🏼🇮🇳❤️
Glad you think so!
There are many, so please take a look!
Вот он офигенно точно отрезал и измерил результат линейкой. Подарите ему штанген, пусть. Ещё один видос снимет, как он офигительно умеет им мерить.
ты точно понял суть видео?
Спасибо за ваш комментарий
Working on the delay line of the Paranal telescopes, we achieved below 10 nm precision over a distance of up to 60m.
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How did that bit not start to glow?
Carbide??..
The material of the insert is made of cemented carbide, which is the second hardest material after diamond!
Kesme olarak kullanılmak zorunda değil burada sadece kalitesini gostermek istemişler. Daha geniş kanallarda kullanmak zamandan tasarruf edilmesini sağlar.
Yorumun için teşekkür ederim
Cortou manteiga!
Ferramentas de excelência fazem diferença absurdamente!
But why 😅?
Use 3 mm and you get more Discs
You are totally right! I think its only for demonstration.
same here,
it seems like he just want to demonstrate the quality of their product,
a grooving tool that can withstand cutting all the way means it perfectly made,
but i think its not just about the blade but the holder too
@enduro fan that would make sense but a better demo would have remove material along the X.
Man, you guys have such cool toys!!!! Meanwhile, i'm over here with my home made CNC, saving up for a1/2" thick x 36" x36" aluminum plate so i can make better fixturing.
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Funny how unconcentric the center bore was... lol
Eggcentric
Just keep cutting.
Definitely was not bored... That's stock material.
Это если надо 100 шт нарезать, то метр в стружку уйдёт?
10ｍｍ、15ｍｍと同商品を使っていますが、高圧クーラントと相性が良く、動画で一瞬出てくる長いキリコは出てきません。
供給の配管が他社と同じΦ6だと嬉しいのですが。。
Φ4.8はマニアック
弊社製品をご利用頂きありがとうございます！
また、使用後のフィードバックまで頂きましてありがとうございます！
供給配管の件、しっかり伝えさせて頂きます。
もし、工具で不具合、改善したいなどございましたら我々にお任せください！
Why waste so much stock? Unless you need the clearance for chip evacuation I don't understand why...
Un corte que desperdicia un 110% de material....... No parece redituable
Esto es solo una demostración de mecanizado. Insertos, herramientas, virutas, materiales de trabajo, etc. Reciclamos tanto como sea posible.
Вау эфект достигнут! Никакого сарказма, отличная пластина.
Why would you ever use that for parting 😂 someone missed the memo
the point is to show sturdiness under extreme circumstances. to prove how it'll easily do well under normal conditions and for a long time too. you must think you're so smart.
@@mymusicmen13I think he's wondering why you would ever want a 10mm kerf, when a narrower tool will work just as well and waste less material.
@@Spurioushamsterprobably not meant for parting, could be need for grooves or mb to seperate welded parts faster
It’s just a demo to show it off a bit. You’d use this for deep grooving
Pay rate must be on a per pound of shavings basis.
I'd like to see the cutoff surface of the finished piece
最後のスケールの出てくる勢いwww
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そこだけで5テイクぐらい撮りました。w
I’m a very very entry level operator I run a tx7 anca machining/grinding is super dope
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And a dry cut at that!!! I’m sure you were sweating 😅!
It was only 1045 (c45 is the grade written on it) so not really amazing at all. Show me the same thing in inconel or P550 I work with and I'd be impressed. The way it broke a chip in soft material is above average though, and also the high feed rate is for that reason exactly, the right chip thickness so it breaks not strings.
This time we did it dry so that you can see the processing and the product carefully!
We recommend using cutting oil!
Доказательство что современные резцы лучше советских !
Is this how they make wheel spacers?
No
Here is a machining demonstration!
Those spiral shreds are a form of art by themselves
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Ну и зачем такой толстый резец? Так много в отход ушло.
..тоньше резцы не пройдут такую глубину ...там нет такого крепления пластины...
@@maiklmaikl4894 хз, зрительно вроде но толсто кажется
@@maiklmaikl4894 отрезные есть до 30мм. Там толщина 2мм.
@@maiklmaikl4894 открой каталог taegutec там есть лезвия с вставными пластинами там ширина 3мм отрезает 50мм. Но для них нужен держатель специальный.
Tungsten and carbide. Once upon a Time there was a ship whose job it was to cut a Soviet submarine in pieces and bring it to the surface.
What is that feed per tooth??? Crazy stuff
.25 mm per rev its in the description
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Heavily moded one of these to do a 6.5 inch deep face groove. Went from a 2hour mill run to a 12 min lathe run. It's a tough tool.
очень широкий резец много теряете в отрезке
Может их цель не резать,а добывать стружку?иначе я не понимаю почему резец шире,чем срезанная часть😁
По идее он хорош для канавок .
И замер линейкой. Что за пиздец))))
Лучше только рулеткой)
Где, мать их, штангенциркуль?))
The chips at the start remind me of a cinnamon breakfast cereal 😂😋
Beautiful curl-shaped chips are proof of stable machining.
Peelin Steel ❤
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Это же глупо😂. Потеря металла огромная
Просто это дорогая игрушка...
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Where can I get that chuck?!? I can't believe it didn't pull that right out of that chuck the second it hit that material!! 🤯🤯
и 10 мм в стружку ...
Спасибо за ваш комментарий
не переживайте! они обещают собирать стружку !
будут собирать и отдельно утилизировать!!
хахахахахаха!!!
Заметьте - перпендикулярные выступы на пластине они больше нужны для нержавейки и низкоулеподистой стали , для более лучшего доступа эмульсии в зону резания и более хорошего формирования направленой стружки , также человек приложил линейку и показал что там отрезка более 32 мм , предполагаю может больше 40 , скажем можно хорошо использовать при изготовление шкивов .!!!
tungaloy.com/ru/product/grooving/tungheavygroove/
Hmmm no milk
Yes, no coolant!
ドキドキヒヤヒヤする突っ切り加工でした。
突っ切り落としは2,3mm幅で二次加工しています。😂
おっしゃる通り、ヒヤヒヤでした。
通常は2.3mmですよね！
我々メーカーとしては、加工が出来るというのは当たり前で、
だからこそ、お客様が普段やらないような加工で工具のPRができれば良いなと思っています。
Una macchina a controllo numerico che misure è con il righello 😂😂😂😂
Grazie per aver guardato il video
Why the cutting tool is not broken ?
Usually this process is called Parting off, The tool should move left & right to avoid jamming.
The final product needed is those hot crispy chips?
The cutting edge of the insert has a shape called a breaker, and when the work material comes into contact with The cutting edge of the insert has a shape called a breaker, and when the work material comes into contact with that part, chip control is improved, so even intensely dry machining like this can be performed without any problems!
Ottima misurazione sarete sicuramente precisi😢
Grazie per il tuo commento!
The focus is quite professional.
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Hopefully that I.D. didn't matter when you cut that washer off cause it was way out.
It was probably just for demonstration
It’s a grooving tool, they’re just showing off. ID wouldn’t matter in real application. Just a visual show here
Here is a working demonstration.
This time, we hope that you will see how the chip breaker is effective even in dry and hard cutting, and that the chip evacuation is good.
Ok, so how much u material u wasted to get that pc out with that insert?😅
Thank you for your valuable opinion.
This time it's a machining demonstration.
We recycle inserts, tools, work materials, shavings, etc. where possible!
Steelin peel
Interessante il sistema di bloccaggio inserto vorrei vederlo meglio
Part off 10mm by wasting 10mm of metal, well done lol
This is just a working demo
Inserts, tools, chips, working materials, etc. We recycle as much as possible.
Здесь продемонстрировано интересное крепление пластины , этот резец больше канавочный и им легко разбить канавку в нужный размер , ст45 можно точить и резать хоть чем , а вот малоуглеродистые стали они вязкие и залипают иногда при прижиме сверху . Этот резец я найду и закажу мне он очень понравился . Этот человек хотел донести новый взгляд в металлообработке (если включить эмульсию вам ничего не видно будет)
Благодарим вас за проявленный интерес
Epic
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Y no usa ningún lubricante para evitar el calentamiento wuuuau es increíble esa pieza😮
¡Esta vez lo hicimos en seco para que podáis ver el procesamiento y el producto con atención!
¡Recomendamos utilizar aceite de corte!
削りかす触ってみたい、（手切れそう）
手が切れますし、加工直後は大変熱いです。
冷えると可愛いですよ！
@@TungaloyCorporation 面白いですね！
Wow, that removed a lot of metal VERY quickly!!
Thank you for your interest!
Why so much stock wasted. While parting…
It's just for UA-cam man
ah yes, another people who don't understand demo
In video description said it's a groving tool, so it will remove more material faster for large grove, and they just show the capability of the tool can do for parting
Thank you for watching the video.
Inserts, tools, chips, work materials, etc. We are recycling as much as possible.
And that's the beauty of Additive Manufacturing. Not producing all of that waste in metal chips.
Thank you for your interest!
How many pounds of force does the cutting bit exert on the piece it’s cutting?
何時見ても超硬バイトの切削は惚れ惚れする
こういった加工シーン、いいですよね！
I mean I get that you are going to run the tool upside down so the tool pressure is pushing on the carriage instead of pulling, but at least use a left hand tool so it doesn’t look like a complete amateur set it up?
Wasting 10mm of material for 10mm or material
While u could have wasted 3mm and saved 7mm
This might nog be that much on single one but on a Big Scale this will be just TOO MUCH Wasted Material
Thank you for your valuable opinion.
This time it's a machining demonstration.
We recycle inserts, tools, work materials, shavings, etc. where possible.
Ok... To all the watchers - No one says about the durability of the Knifes..! How many Cuts they can do and how long they gonna last and after all The Price...! So, all of that can be a real Consumer Trap..!
As a cutting tool manufacturer, we promote our tools.
We hope that our customers will choose the most suitable tools for their machining operations.
Getting blue chips. Oh the humanity....
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И ещё точно такойже диск превратил в стружку,просто идеальная экономия заготовки!!!🤣🤣🤣😅😆😂
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Is the wavy shape of the cutter for cooling or friction reduction?
This is a breaker.
Chip disposal is greatly improved by the effect of the breaker!
The effect is that the chips are finer.
Nice groove
Thank you for the best compliment!
First and foremost, that was beautiful and very satisfying to my soul to watch..... but, it looks like you wasted 10mm of steel also and that hurt my poor heart😢. A bandsaw would've saved you so much metal just now. But I guess the biggest takeaway is that it was amazingly cut and beautiful to watch. 😊❤
Thank you for your interest!
And inserts, tools, chips, work materials, etc. We are recycling as much as possible!
You didn’t want to fix the runout before cutting off the stock?
Sorry, We'll try to be more careful next time.
when i saw the video for the first time i gambled but there was no sound and i was really surprised to see no cooling and that the tool stayed in one piece❤😂
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What was the axial stress level on that machine ? 😨 had to be huge with a 10mm groove insert .. rip x axes and turret ^^