@@Unversed333 Season 2 episodes 18 and 19 made it feel like that was the redemption arc, but in the next episode, they completely do a 180 and have Ward and Kara kidnap Bobbi. This was really dumb. They should have followed through with Ward's redemption arc. They should have had Kara want to go back to S.H.I.E.L.D and have her help fight for S.H.I.E.L.D . After that, she would die in battle, and Ward would be heartbroken. Ward would rejoin S.H.I.E.L.D to honor Kara and what she fought for. Of course, Ward and the rest of the team would take a pretty long time to get to trust one another, but eventually they all trust each other again. In season 3, There would be some romantic chemistry sparks that would re-ignite between Daisy and Ward. Daisy would also begin to change Ward because like in the Framework, Daisy would begin to show Ward that he can be a good person. They would not be together yet, but the possibility is there. Daisy would of course get together with Lincoln. In this scenario of course, Ward would end up not being hive. Ward would not even go to Maveth. In this scenerio, Will would end up coming back as HIVE. The rest of season 3 would play out how it actually played out, except Will would be HIVE. After season 3, Daisy is grieving the loss of Lincoln, and so she feels like she needs to leave S.H.I.E.L.D. Daisy would end up staying at S.H.I.E.L.D because Ward would convince her to stay by telling her how he felt when Kara died and he would make here realize that she was not alone. Over the course of season 4, Ward and Daisy would investigate Ghost Rider sightings together which was how we would meet Ghost Rider. This would cause the two of them to get much closer because they would spend more time together. Throughout season 4 Daisy and Ward's romantic tension would continue to rise. The point of when they knew they wanted to be together would be after they got out of the Framework. The framework would play out the same, but the real Ward would be plugged into the framework, so Daisy and Jemma would have to rescue him as well. Throughout their time in the Framework, Daisy would start to realize her feelings for Ward because she was constantly afraid of losing him. They would become a couple at the end of season 4 and would together for the rest of the series and beyond that. Also, Sousa's role in season 7 would be the same, but he and Daisy would not have a romantic relationship because Daisy would be with Ward. At the end of the series, Ward would thank the rest of the team for taking him back and giving him a second chance. He would then confess that he is also super happy to have a family like them. I feel like this would all make Ward an even more amazing character.
@@Zach_TheGamer Making Ward redeem himself would be the easy way out. They gave him a character arc and when it was his time to go they let him go. Ward redeeming himself would’ve felt so forced and cliche
@@beneyweneys that being said though, I feel like it was possible. But I also agree that it would've been cliche. He's not like Zuko from Avatar the Last Airbender (redeemability-wise) and I don't think real-world Ward ever would have been. He was too far gone by the present day, and FrameWard actually shows this. All it took for FrameWard to be a good person was Victoria Hand finding him instead of Garrett. That was Ward's only absolute point (the concept they cover in one of the What-If episodes).
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A lot of restraint for him to not say “Hail Hydra” after that first scene.
They don't really believe in Hydra
Wars is 100% irredeemable after s1? And anything they try to write after is nonsense.
He had a few chances to redeem himself in season 2 but he chose not to.
@@Unversed333 Season 2 episodes 18 and 19 made it feel like that was the redemption arc, but in the next episode, they completely do a 180 and have Ward and Kara kidnap Bobbi. This was really dumb. They should have followed through with Ward's redemption arc. They should have had Kara want to go back to S.H.I.E.L.D and have her help fight for S.H.I.E.L.D . After that, she would die in battle, and Ward would be heartbroken. Ward would rejoin S.H.I.E.L.D to honor Kara and what she fought for. Of course, Ward and the rest of the team would take a pretty long time to get to trust one another, but eventually they all trust each other again. In season 3, There would be some romantic chemistry sparks that would re-ignite between Daisy and Ward. Daisy would also begin to change Ward because like in the Framework, Daisy would begin to show Ward that he can be a good person. They would not be together yet, but the possibility is there. Daisy would of course get together with Lincoln. In this scenario of course, Ward would end up not being hive. Ward would not even go to Maveth. In this scenerio, Will would end up coming back as HIVE. The rest of season 3 would play out how it actually played out, except Will would be HIVE. After season 3, Daisy is grieving the loss of Lincoln, and so she feels like she needs to leave S.H.I.E.L.D. Daisy would end up staying at S.H.I.E.L.D because Ward would convince her to stay by telling her how he felt when Kara died and he would make here realize that she was not alone. Over the course of season 4, Ward and Daisy would investigate Ghost Rider sightings together which was how we would meet Ghost Rider. This would cause the two of them to get much closer because they would spend more time together. Throughout season 4 Daisy and Ward's romantic tension would continue to rise. The point of when they knew they wanted to be together would be after they got out of the Framework. The framework would play out the same, but the real Ward would be plugged into the framework, so Daisy and Jemma would have to rescue him as well. Throughout their time in the Framework, Daisy would start to realize her feelings for Ward because she was constantly afraid of losing him. They would become a couple at the end of season 4 and would together for the rest of the series and beyond that. Also, Sousa's role in season 7 would be the same, but he and Daisy would not have a romantic relationship because Daisy would be with Ward. At the end of the series, Ward would thank the rest of the team for taking him back and giving him a second chance. He would then confess that he is also super happy to have a family like them. I feel like this would all make Ward an even more amazing character.
@@Zach_TheGamer Making Ward redeem himself would be the easy way out. They gave him a character arc and when it was his time to go they let him go. Ward redeeming himself would’ve felt so forced and cliche
@@beneyweneys Agreed.
@@beneyweneys that being said though, I feel like it was possible. But I also agree that it would've been cliche. He's not like Zuko from Avatar the Last Airbender (redeemability-wise) and I don't think real-world Ward ever would have been. He was too far gone by the present day, and FrameWard actually shows this. All it took for FrameWard to be a good person was Victoria Hand finding him instead of Garrett. That was Ward's only absolute point (the concept they cover in one of the What-If episodes).
I dont care what others say, for me he redeemed himself and his death was nothing but a really bad nightmare and delusion.