Surprising Statistics About Gen Z’s Religious Views
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- Опубліковано 21 жов 2024
- Generation Z is the least religious generation in history… Right? Not exactly. Dr. Ryan Burge and ISPOS have put together statistics on different generations and their religious views and they’re a huge surprise. Boomers are more religious than Gen Z in America, but less religious in Europe. The future of religion worldwide seems to be no religion and Islam.
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If you're raised as a religious minority, your faith is less about personal belief and more about ethnic identity. This accounts for Catholic kids in protestant countries and vice versa and muslim kids in western countries. More people are identifying as religious while having no supernatural beliefs. 😮
Oh that's a fascinating thought. Makes sense
I think this tracks with many Jews. For many, practicing Judaism is not about a belief in God, but about continuing their culture which is tied to ethnicity.
I was about to say this too. Also, when minorities feel like they are not an equal part of the society, they tend to turn inwards. Which I think can be seen here.
@@_S0me__0neAs a Jew myself, this is 100% accurate (at least for Reform Judaism)
You have nailed a point that is very much overlooked. I am an Ethiopian Jew a minority within a minority, so when asked I always affirm my specific Jewishness, but I was an atheist already by age 14
I’m a member of gen Z who just turned 19. Maybe I can elucidate to some people why we feel such a push for agnosticism and atheism in our generation. One of the core reasons people around me relate poorly to religion is the religious fundamentalist adherence to restrictive political ideology. It’s no secret that progressivism is the political staple of gen z, so as people recognize the political beliefs associated with religion, such as anti lgbt efforts, beliefs that women are inferior or belong in the home to serve men, or even Christian nationalism that threatens the core beliefs of our nation- freedom of religion and tolerance. Gen Z pushing for more progressive political beliefs leads them to deconstruct religion in the process. Additionally, growing up in the modern world, we recognize that people can be moral and do good for society without religion, so it’s no longer seen as necessary. It also appears that society is most improved through technological innovation and equitable economic practices, not by adherence to any religion. Sorry for the long comment. Thanks for reading if you made it this far lol
I'm 19 and I completely agree. Progressivism and religion don't mix and gen z is very progressive. Almost every gen z person I know thinks it's weird that so many church goers think gay people are some problem in society and not just regular people.
I believe a form of religion is a necessary existence. Not to be followed per se in the conventional sense tho
Raises the question of where the +5 to Islam is coming from. I mean, you can be a progressive Muslim, but you can just a easily be a progressive Christian.
@@justinhart2831 christianity has become too convulated for most people to bother i think. With its differrnt sub branches, iterations, translations and also the fact its narrative stumbles over itself a few times AND actually kinda predicts the arrival of the Quran(allegedly, idk i havent read the bible). How christian women are generally less "decent" and modest than muslim ones and I think all those factors combined formed an incentive towards islam over christianity. Again this is just my speculation
As a someone from Generation X, I actually appreciate the length of your comment. I admire the detail, and the in depth thought process by which you came to your conclusions. One of my most common complaints about Generation Z is the utter dearth of well thought out arguments. Obviously, this is a generalization, but so many within Gen Z don't seem to be all that contemplative, and they appear far too content with soundbite arguments, bereft of any real substance. Your comment stands as a nice counterpoint to this stereotype.
Speaking to the Japan thing, another thing to consider is how casual religion is in Japan. Japanese people basically “assume” a baseline version of Shinto and buddhism that takes them to shrines or temples a few times each year or maybe even once a month, but when asked, they’ll say they aren’t religious.
To a Japanese person, the question “Are you a practitioner of Buddhism?” would likely be interpreted as “Are you a monk/nun?”, hence the big generational gap.
Well that is the difference between practising religion and having that religion being ingrained in the cultural identity of a person. Famously Atheistic Czechia has an overwhelming majority of people who profess no religion, but the entire country shuts down for Christmas and Easter with strong emphasis placed on traditional rituals - including going for midnight mass, but not for any dogmatic reason, just the "seasonal vibes". Visiting churches at that time is no different from visiting Christmas markets or going ice-skating. The demand is so inelastic, that Polish priests have to be imported at Christmas time to do the mass, because the churches are otherwise empty for the rest of the year.
Buddhism is more a lifestyle than a religion maybe that’s why they don’t necessarily consider themselves as religious
That's sanatan@@carlitoxb110
And I believe that this is also true for Chinese religion practitioners. You go to the temple in Chinese New Year. You participate in festivals such as the Hungry Ghost festival. You clean your family's tomb and bring offerings for the death. But no strict religious practice such as religious prayer or fasting. If you do that, you are becoming a monk, or at least an aspirant to become a monk.
@@onisuryaman408 Chinese religions are highly syncretic and dependant on location. And one of the major ones, Taoism can be described as both a religion and a philosophy - it emphasizes living in harmony with what is known as the Tao-generally understood as being the impersonal, enigmatic process of transformation ultimately underlying reality. Chinese people are generally still incredibly superstitious and those superstitions absolutely affect their contemporary day-to-day. For example, tall buildings in Hong Kong are often built with large gaps in their center, the hole is a feng shui-driven opening for "spirit dragons" which reside in the hills behind -- it's said that blocking their path into the water will bring misfortune. And housing units are sold completely bare - even without flooring or fixtures, because it is superstitious tradition that the family moving in must destroy and remove all left over things from the previous occupant, otherwise they will inherit the misfortunes of that occupant.
So in the view that "practicing religion" is the practice of certain cultural and spiritual rituals, Chinese people absolutely do demonstrate them, and they demonstrate them very frequently.
There is also the aspect of the CCP intentionally harassing, censoring and generally making the overt practice of religions like Buddhism, Christianity and Islam very difficult - vis the detainment and torture of their underground Catholic bishops such as Cui Tai and Huang Jintong, the reeducation concentration camps they subject their Islamic population to, or the Party loyalists that they established to take control of Tibet's administration, establishing the false 15th Dalai Lama, to consolidate both civil and religious affairs after reannexing the country.
hey - turkish person here - you’re totally right about the government being waaaayy more secular back then ,, than nowadays .
Extremely secular
Also , Türkiye faces a lot of immigration mostly from the levant and central Asia and those immigrants are more religious
@@knyghtryder3599 yes definitely
I recently saw a poll that turkish people have become more secular (not the government) is it true?
@@gamingchamp23525you are quite right in what you said, the more religious pressure the state puts on people, the more secularized people become
I have some Muslim friends who I have had some frank conversations with (but only when they were by themselves). The biggest reason they have stated for not leaving Islam (even though they have no personal belief) is that doing so would result in being declared apostate. They would lose their community, family, and cultural connections. The cost is just too high. So you won't hear them, even on a survey, saying that they aren't Muslim. For that matter, it took years before these particular friends (3 of them) trusted me enough to reveal what they thought. They do NOT ever reveal themselves lightly. Some person doing a survey isn't going to hear the truth from them, even if the survey is supposedly anonymous. There is a genuine fear of being revealed or betrayed.
because in their religion they just don’t want their children to go to 🔥
More likely because there's a social, economic and survival cost of being outed. Similar to ultra conservative Christianity, if you're found to be on the out group you can end up losing all family support in life and will essentially be abandoned. This is pretty similar to how some cults behave as an incentive to keep people in the system. @@unkown110
@@unkown110 A carrot and stick approach is very common to religion in general. There is the fear of punishment and the promise of reward used as a tool to keep followers.
Exactly this. I’m slightly more bold than your friends in the sense that I’m happy to discuss being an ex-Muslim on my alt accounts/if I’m anonymous, but this apostasy shit does NOT slip out in real life. It’s sad because so much of my persona & what I say/how I act is a total lie, but that’s what it takes to keep my connections with everyone I know.
This is so interesting to hear. Cause I have had kinda the opposite encounters where my friends raised in Muslim families would say that they are atheists cause it’s liberating, but suddenly wants pray when they want something or feel distressed. It’s kinda funny to observe.
Edit: I should mention that their families aren’t exactly super religious either.
I suspect the lack of data from countries in the Middle East and Africa as well as certain large majority-Muslim countries has to do with the fact that it’s probably difficult to ask such questions and it’s even more difficult to get honest answers from people, especially in countries where people don’t feel safe saying they’re non-religious. As for the young Muslims skewing data in some countries, I’d say wait until they’re in their 30s. It can also be related to the fact that many immigrants face discrimination and that makes them hold on tightly to their traditions and cultures.
On the last part about immigration and discrimination, I was thinking the same thing.
I'm also scared to go into a place like that, let alone ask questions and give someone a reason to do something bad. I wouldn't blame them.
There's actually been studies on this; I'm pretty sure Iran is less religious than the US, and the Middle East is overall losing religion fast. You just can't see under the hood yet.
ill probably say I'm a muslim
From the data I've seen Christians and Jews are falling in Muslim majority countries due to the prejudice they receive. In Lebanon there are zero Jews.
I am also Gen Z and one trend I’ve noticed, at least in the West, is that how a lot of my generation views religion as a political identity and uses the people who practice it as a tool to further their own agendas. The discourse about religion amongst Gen Z in the West is often less about the belief in God and more about the social and political implications of religious values as well as geographical and historical developments a religion has been involved in. Take Islam for example. There are some Gen Z who convert to Islam because of the beliefs they have about women, family, lgbtq, and gender roles. Meanwhile there are a lot of Gen Z who support Islam (even though they themselves are usually agnostic or Christian) because they view Islamic people as oppressed by the West and needing help. On the other hand there are people who hate Islam because of the negative relations the West has had with majority Muslim countries. I think this trend is not just a Gen Z trend, but most of us started to become aware of politics during the Trump era and beyond where religion became more about politics and social issues than a belief in God or gods. So in turn, most of us probably take a different approach to religion than the generations before us when they were our age. I understand that religion in politics are intrinsically linked but I feel like nowadays religious conflict in the west is not necessarily about who God is or what he does or how we should worship him, but more about the cultural values and histories of the people that believe in said God. And I think this is just a product of increased globalization and individualism.
I agree.
I wish all people were scientifically literate atheists, but it is what it is.
Yeah 100% agree. I’m confident that if you ask why most secular/atheist people do not believe in God or a religion, it is often linked to politics and social issues rather than actually arguing the philosophy and foundational principle of atheism, that God simply does not exist. I think ideally a lot of Zoomers actually find comfort in wanting a God to exist but they just don’t align with the Abrahamic concepts of God so they just announce themselves as atheists while actually still adhering to their own custom idea of a deity or becoming more aligned with other new age religions.
religion and politics are not intrinsically linked. In the US they're not supposed to be at all. And the idea that they are is how Roe got overturned
@@AuntieMamies I'd argue the opposite. That's basically the whole point of organised religion: political power.
@@Llortnerof that's the point for religion. And for certain political parties. But not for law and policy
That is really disturbing that Gen Z lose respect for those who don't have a religious faith. As a millennial, I may not understand why my dad, my aunt and my friends choose atheism over identifying with a religious faith, but I wouldn't lose respect for them. I care more about how people treat others more so than what religion/faith/lack of faith they hold.
Interesting, I am an atheist who was raise by very religious parents. It appears a significant portion people born to atheists eventually become religious.
@@JM-st1le I am sorry but humans are brain dead is the reason. I can say atleast 70% of atheists and religious people really easy to beat in a religious debate. I am religious muslim and I can dismantle your average atheist joe's ideas like how I dismantle average muslim kamil's ideas. Thanks to my parents I raised properly on this matter. No not being a religious yeah they want that to but main thing they don't wanted is me being brain dead like other 70%.
I guess it depends on why they would
Usually the religious people who think like this aren't just any regular religious person, but the intolerant, dogmatic and bigoted kind. So not only it seems like these gen Z people are more religious, but they are the intolerant religious kind.
Islam knows no tolerance.
In India, I believe it's a combination of two things. 1) Rise in hindu nationalism - this is more a political move. People feel the need to decenter themselves from the west and take more pride in indian history, tradition - which is also associated with reclaiming Hinduism in their lives.
2) Many are closer to being agnostic than atheistic, but just say hindu since that is the faith practiced at home, and there is room for agnostic beliefs in hindu faith.
Not west but radical Islamist and woke stupidity
I mean we Bharatiya are better then west and countries with majority of atheist like china Japan in culture. There family structure is doomed by we don't have these problem because of Hinduism And our culture .it's not just religious people but agnostics like me hate west (no culture they have high ego and there hypocrisy 😅)
and this woke and lgbtq nonsense. I mean when u look at LGBTQ community in india they literally said free kashmir free manipur free south india how can we accept these madarchods and they target hindus only . 🤔
bro, India is the birthplace of Hinduism, what else do you expect? just like Saudi Arabia will always remain muslim, India will always remain Hindu
it's indic renaissance which includes all expects social ,political and cultural revivalism and western atheism isn't compatible with indic values, it will only create more chaos like it did in past .
@@kratuvam7 he was talking about gen z is more religious than previous generations. Everywhere else in world gen z is less religious but India it is opposite. The reason for this is definitely political involvement.
There's a large streak of Hindu nationalism going on in India right now. It's probably not religious it's probably political
exactly!! I know too many too many gen z folks supporting movements like"akhand-bharat" and bjp policies. It's a little scary considering most of them oppose femisnism, lgbt rights and secularism without having a good understanding of politics or religion
Agreed, religion is, as usual, just being used as an excuse
The right wing supporters in India to say are bit extreme right now. You can get literally get cancelled just critising Hinduism . Many movement like sanatan probably bs is one of the hook due to which govt. was elected.
Oh boy, don't get me started on it. I was told by another Indian American that I wasn't "Actually" Indian because I ate beef. smh
I think there might be a strong growth (in some pockets around the world) of religious conservatism (conservative faith without the god), evidenced by the strong growth in Islam faith in some countries.
I would like to see political affiliation and sexual identity tracked alongside religious affiliation in these surveys. That might help identify this trend, if it exists.
9:10 Sweden has had possibly the largest (by percentage) influx of muslim immigration, and largely of a younger age group. So this is bound to push the Gen Z muslim numbers up.
Yeah, those numbers in those places don't seem all that confusing to me. To the point where I'm not sure how anyone could find them confusing.
@@RevShifty Confusing to people not knowing the immigration.
@@SioxerNikita But many of those countries were all over US news a few years back specifically because of that very immigration. That's why it's confusing to me how Americans might not be aware of it. Our right even tried attacking them over that very thing for several consecutive years, turning it into a real sideshow (well, an even bigger one) for a while.
@@DM5550Zsource?
@@RevShifty Because many Americans don't really care much about European politics?
It makes plenty of sense. Most Danes don't really care about American politics either.
Wishing you both well during this tough time.
I went from Christian, to deist in high school, then came to fully identify as atheist in college. Education is usually a gateway for critical thinking, skepticism, and secularism. The majority of Zoomers are not college graduates. I predict the statistics will shift further towards secularism over time for Zoomers. At the very least, there may be a a shift towards more spiritualism and less establishment religion.
There’s nothing truer than the old adage about deists; they’re just atheists who don’t understand the physics.
Zoomers seem to be the least critically thinking generation.
You don't have a clue what an Atheist is? I can tell by what you just said. don't try to bullshit people into believing your an Atheist. when you're at most an agnostic.
I dont believe the correlation of intelligence and/or education alongside atheism is as strong as we once believed.
Religion in general, depending how we define it, is still popular among non-white, non-Westerners (as in, Western Europe and the Anglo world). I don't think this implies that everyone else is less intelligent or less-educated, either.
Theres more to the story than just ones critical thinking skills or level of education. And no expert has been able to answer the question, either. There are people dedicated to the study of the sociology of religion (those are the ppl that gather and compile the data presented in this video). They have tried to answer the question about what drives religion or lack thereof, and simply haven't come to a solid answer.
So, in short, it's fine to pontificate a bit, but also understand that if experts dedicating their lives to the field haven't answered the question, the rest of us probably won't be able to either.
@@MrKoalaburgerI'm pretty convinced it's multifactorial tbh. Personality and lived experience probably play a big role, hence why big traumas can either strengthen or kill someone's faith all together depending on the person.
This is not surprising. I always thought it was a problem that western skepticism or secularism movements focused too strongly on Christianity. We are all still susceptible to other types of superstition.
Is it immigration alone? I am not so sure this is the only driving factor.
The New Age bs is dangerous. Islam even more so.
We need to be generally sceptical, not just specifically.
One big factor while certain minority religious groups continue to hold onto their faith in the west so strongly is because of discrimination. If you're actively being discriminated against because of your faith, as many Muslims, Sikhs, etc., are in the west, then you're likely to form a stronger bond to those cultural and religious ties, and double-down on it. I'd argue that many of these folks aren't actually so religious, as they are culturally of that faith.
@demolilyofficial Or perhaps its because Islam is far more strict. When Sharia law teaches execution for blasphemy and execution for Apostasy and there's a deep honour culture where those who disgrace a family are attacked, shunned, or killed. Try listening to actual Ex Muslims.
@@jhunt5578 Sharia law doesn't say anything biblical literalists don't already support. You seem to really want to make anti Muslim comments, only as obliquely as possible. Either finally step up and say it with your full throat already, or give it a rest.
@@jhunt5578 Did you ignore the "one big factor" part, as in not the only factor
In Turkey secular and less religious people radicalized for different reasons in the past 50 years. Living a "sinful" life then becoming religious is a common story from what I heard. For the past 20 years it became more and more dangerous and socially costly to speak against religion. This radicalized religious people raised their kids with unchallenged beliefs causing offshoot cults to go rampant and feed the cycle. Nowadays non-religous people are either move abroad or stay quite to not get in trouble. Religous or otherwise gen z's future is not looking so good imo.
It reminds me of the West and the social cost of speaking against progressivism and leftism.
So sad.
@@sebsebski2829 The religious point to the bad consequences promised in their book(s). The progressives point to the bad consequences easily observed all around us. Both sets disapprove of people not following their ideas of moral behavior.
our current president plays a role in this but he's probably going to be gone (atleast I hope so)
@@hii8452These type turks exist everywhere but from my personal experiences atleast, I can say that many turks are becoming less religious
I also have a feeling that the increase in Islam, at least in my country of the UK, might be because you're not allowed to criticize aspects of the religion without someone either calling you an islamophobe or a racist who is insensitive to other cultures. Plus it's easy to be a more extremist religious person when you feel like the rest of society is against you.
@jxphe tbh they do believe it is correct since it's in the quaran that the prophet Muhammed married Aisha when she was age 6, many justify childmarriage because they state that it's not consummated until they show signs of maturity like menstruations, which can happen at very young ages.
@@lolno-zi4vc Do you think thats a valid explanation?
@DGT_-mv5ju not at all, child marriage is digusting. it's just what some people say
@@lolno-zi4vc But youve delivered the explanation yourself? What problem do you have with it?
@@DGT_-mv5ju I was just adding on the hypocritical responses that are given, I was adding on information to the previous comment. learn to read and comprehend text pal
I think one of the reasons why my generation seems to be more religious is not because we actually do have faith but because we are forced to. I am saying this not just as someone who sees this happening around me but as someone living through that reality. What really doesn't help is that we're pretty forced to put up with our religious families thanks to the economic situation around the world right now.
gen Z is what they are talking about...or it is what I think they are talking about@OkPe-ww5rs
@OkPe-ww5rs I'm assuming Millennial
The main issue is the influx of information. Technology gives open access to info all around the world. Religion is sustained with echo chambers, its hard to believe anything different if everyone around you believes in the same thing. The internet expands your chamber to contain billions of people, giving you access to a variety of views. At the same time, internet also leads to radicalism as people can build their own echo chambers online instead of facing criticism in their community as one would 50 yrs ago.
I find this statistic rather surprising in regards to the countries agreeing with the statement "I lose respect for people when I find out that they do not have a religious faith". Romania, for instance, is a very religious country but you don't see hostility towards atheists. That to me indicates that something else makes the participants "lose respect" instead of their beliefs.
I don't think Romania was part of the survey, they only picked "western" countries...
For Austria Islam is probably the driving factor. The Muslim kids in my class told me as teenager that I'll go to hell, because I'm an Atheist. The fun thing is that many Muslims I know aren't actually that religious. Many of them still drink alcohol, gamble and not all of them pray as Islam dictates so it seems like it's purely a ingroup/outgroup thing.
@@adrianblake8876 What is your definition of a "western" country?
Anyway, they survey included countries in Asia, Latin America and South Africa, which Americans don't regard as "western".
@@romanpaladino IDC what the average american think, cause the average american is ignorant.
1. South Africa is totally a western country, it's a white and English speaking colonialist country.
2. LatAm are also western countries, they're also a product of European colonialism...
3. While Japan and SK are more debatable (since they're far eastern geographically and culturally), they're economically part of the same bloc with the other western countries, than other eastern countries, which is why I used the scare quotes on the word western...
4. The term "western countries" is nebulous and ill-defined nonetheless...
@@adrianblake8876 I completely agree that the terms "western country" and "western civilization" are not defined well, but I would like to point out that in America that term's meaning can vary wildly depending on who you are talking to. You will usually hear that phrase/concept being talked about and praised by right wingers, and when they say "western civilization" it's essentially code for skin color and religion (whether they want to admit it or not, whether they want to dog whistle or play stupid). If you ask those particular Americans whether Latin American countries or Japan or South Africa are western, they will most definitely say no, even if you make a really good case and point out how similar our societies are, our point out we are in the same economic bloc.
If you ask a moderate they may think similar but to a lesser degree, same for dems. Generally, the more left you go in America, the less importance the concept of "western civilization" has, because most lefties see it for what it is - a vague dog whistle that doesn't really mean much when you look into it's history, they just pick and choose the best parts of specific white civilizations and pretend it's part of something bigger and cohesive and then they (right wingers, people who came up with the concept or WC) convince everyone they have to fight dying to preserve it.
Boomer here.......haven't been to a church service since 1963. Ahead of the curve I am.
I didn't lose my faith till 1971. Still went to church once a year till my mom died, so as not too make her cry.
You weren't ahead of the curve, you were BUILDING the curve. And to that, I say keep on building.
The single worse generation in all of history
The worst generation of all time
Thank you hippies for ruining western civilization. You will be (are already) remembered as the worst generation in history.
Well I'm from India, and honestly the India GenZ stat makes me so happy. The generaton before us were more into blind faith. Bhakti worship. We are the generation who are asking questions. And receiving them too.
I remember being young and just being blindly forced to perform rituals and pujas and what not. And my questions would be answered with "we don't know we couldn't question our parents, just do it" Once you dwelve deeper, question and reason why we do the way we do things. It does make sense. And again Hinduism isn't a religion. It's a way of life.
Edit to add *Sanatan Dharma not Hinduism.
Also the defination of secular is different here as compared to in the west. In the west it refers to the seperation of goverment state and religious state. Here it refers to tolerance of all faiths and religions.
Im an athiest from Iran living in the west, and I find it so insanely fascinating that other GenZers with a Muslim background who are born or have grown up in the west are "reclaiming" Islam. A lot of times their families are not too strict on religion, only vaguely raising them with Muslim values. I genuinely think its because 1) the reactionary ideals pushed online about Islam being "a religion of peace" and "the first feminist literature" and 2) because they don't face the genuine pressures and hardships of growing up in a Muslim country, only cherry-picking parts of the quran and the faith that is promoted to them and appeals to their ideals
the world/(arab-muslim) world is not centered around Iran
@@arfazhxss I didn’t say it was. I’m referring to gen z muslims in the west who seem to be attracted to Islam not because they are actually invested in the religion, but due to a reactionary movement in social media that has been originally created to protect muslims against Islamaphobia. That sort of reactionary ideas are what the youth are attracted to: the sense of identity and culture, idealization of morality, etc. i have spoken to many of my friends who are as I describe, and when I have asked why, they repeat the phrases “religion of peace” and the first “feminist scripture” as they have seen spewed by many others on social media. They are not actually aware of the religion, and they are not properly educated on the Quran. It is a sort of “better than” idealism to separate them from “basic white” people.
@fendicat6606 I'm an atheist from Egypt. Even tho I'm not a Muslim I don't consider a religion of war. During the Islamic golden age lots of breakthroughs took place especially from your country of Iran. Some Muslims good some Muslims bad. Additionally during the golden age the Quran could be questioned in some extent. That changed now but still there's a lot of atheists misinforming about Islam especially when they're unaware of its history
@@Έλλην-ο7ι of course!! I have nothing against muslims. Lots of people in my family practice, and I respect and and value so much of the Islamic history and the art and science flourished through it. Again, not speaking against Islam, but I’m talking directly to the growth in Islam that drew is discussing in his video. I personally, through what I have experienced, believe that the growth in Islam in the west in the younger generation, is due to media propaganda, not through genuine education about the religion. I respect those who actually know the religion and practice it through actual awareness. But there’s a lot of people who echo only what they hear others say, not what they have studied and concluded on their own.
There is also 3rd thing, quite obvious but you've missed it. Imigration. Countries like France, Germany, Sweden were paragons of welcoming countries to muslims from middleeast and Africa. So this growth may not mean as much, as some people may think, because it's less about conversions (tho they also happen) but more about people's movment
I wouldn't count yearly attendance. I'm an atheist, but I attend church once a year at Christmas when I go to visit my parents. It's not really the hill I want to die on.
Agreed. I'd personally be paying the most attention to weekly and weekly plus numbers.
Same, it’s basically just tradition in my family to go to the Christmas Eve service. Went Atheist in middle school and my mom eventually stopped making me go every week, dad’s a Buddhist so he never cared and just shuts his brain off when he has to go.
Then there's also the inverse. Most Christians I know haven't been to church in years.
Its the tradition and vibe that u enjoy, I do a similar thing
@@soumyadeepsengupta9797 I don't know that I'd go so far as to say I enjoy it. I feel like I tolerate it. But if you enjoy it, that's great.
As a Gen Z Asian non-muslim. I would do anything to escape from religious and cultural oppression, especially as a woman. It’s a very scary and lonely journey.
Don't worry me and many people are feeling same. Everything will be ok
All the best
i feel the same way about other things sometimes but with islam i just cant apply this. i get that it can be overwhelming but i just remind myself that no one can be perfect or even close to perfect and no one can imagine the mercy of allah even if u sin a lot, its just tha some people give you the impression that you have to be perfect and sinless to go to heaven. besides, life is very temporary and it goes by in a second but afterlife is infinite. for me any person would a brain and some logic would know that believing in islam is the right choice. also, islam says not to force something on people so everything u see online by people hating on islam is probably just a small minority because our religion doesnt teach us to oppress people.
@@abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz937 yeah no believing in a invisible entity that has no proof that it exist while restringing myself just to appease their rules is totally illogic,and since theres no scientific proof,for me life is one and im not spending it being an miserable religious bigot.
@@abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz937 and yes it teaches to opress women and lgbt people and non believers or else why would muslim majority coutries persecute them?
The jump in Sweden is almost entirely from Muslim refugees.
Yeah, infact the ethnic Swedes are even less religious than they used to be
Yeah it’s weird how that confuses him. I guess if a person dismisses or ignores any discussion over immigration, especially in Sweden, because it’s viewed as not PC, it might come as a surprise.
Same with Denmark.
@@ottz2506that’s because American Democrats and left wing party’s like most left wing party’s in the Americas, is the churches enemy.
Anything the church did, left wing party’s and liberals must do the opposite. Because of this, liberals and Democrats love atheist and secular views of Norway, Sweden or Denmark.
US Democrats are much like Latin American liberals in the sense that the church is probably their greatest social political enemy.
The church no matter if it’s Christianity or Islam inherently go against centrist Democratic and Liberal ideas like Abortion or lgbtq rights. Christianity is HEAVILY associated with the US right wing Republican Conservative Party which affect how younger Americans view religion which tend to lean more progressive.
Notably Americans view of Israel and the Muslim world is BOTH under water with only 41% of Americans approving of Israel and only 19% of Americans who approve of the Muslim world, this also affect how Islam and Judaism is viewed in the USA. 71% of Americans have a negative view of Islam, another 40% of Americans have negative views of Christianity mainly from GenZ Americans.
u have to check out how much new muslims that are originaly sweden but converted yearly are there
“Hindu” as a religion is much more complex than most westerners realize. It’s wrong to consider it a coherent religion with a set of beliefs and deities as it’s really more or less an amalgamation of various beliefs and practices that are all just roped under the “Hindu” title. You have sects that believe in deities, sects that focus more on spiritualism, and some sects don’t require the belief in a god(s) at all. In fact many sects focus on questioning authority and thinking deeply about the world around you. Modern Hinduism is more about practicing moral beliefs rather than deity worship (from what I understand). It’s a shame how little the average westerner understands due to stereotypes that we’ve been fed since we were little. I remember being taught in school that all Hindus believe in a rigid caste system, only to learn a few years later that the caste system belief is more of a niche belief practiced by only a few particular Hindu sects.
edit: i don’t even remember writing this comment, but according to the replies, the caste system is not a niche belief and is still widely practiced in india to varying extremes. thank you to everyone who left a comment as i probably would have continued believing otherwise 😅
I can totally agree. My boyfriend is hindu, im ex christian. And ive had to learn a lot about tamil. Its really complex and a lot to wrap your head around. And the same hindu sect, can vary wildly by region.
Lol caste discrimination is very much prevalent in the whole of India.
It's true that Hinduism is a bit different from Abrahamic religions in practice. However, the core belief that a supernatural force exists for which human are of great concern is the same.
All the sects you mentioned that focus on questioning and thinking are a tiny proportion of population. Overwhelming majority of Hindus are quite superstitious and are offended at any criticism of the religion.
Bro most Indians marry within theri caste and murders due to caste are very common. Not to mention, much of what is practised as Hinduism is modulated by caste and an expression of caste identity, please take the time to read what other groups from India say about the countries cultural identity, not only anthropoligists who work in this field, but even communities like Dalits and tribals who may not be represented in the west.
Most of us believe in different gods, for example in the South, Lord Shiva is much more prevalent whereas in the North, you will find Lord Krishna and Vishnu being celebrated wholeheartedly. And quite different from all, in Mumbai you will truly enjoy the celebrations of Ganesh Chaturthi.
@@killuaaaaaa139 but as u can see their is a stereotype about caste In west so it doesn't matter how many thing u say they won't believe u . Sad truth.
But only desi people will know advantage of lower caste
easy admission on government college
low fee
Government subsidy
Reservation in jobs and politics 😅
What upper caste gets 😳? It's good people are marrying out side of they caste.
When I grew up and realized how entangled religion and politics are, and how damaging both are to people who simply try and survive, that was the point I left Catholicism.
Left for what?
However, it was Catholicism that brought foundations for modern science and maintains the values as a person and maintaining peace with your brother. This generation believes that they are more intelligent than others but they are so egocentric and hypocritical, a generation full of ignorance that does nothing but constantly defraud itself... but of course, this is the fault of Catholicism
Good for you, it is nothing but poison
To being non-religious, I assume.@@freeyourmind7538
Christianity says and made separation of church and state tho
Hi drew, I’m a member of gen z from Italy. In the latest years I’ve definitely seen less and less religious people around my same age and i would confidently say that this big drop is determined by the fact that religion and politics are growing closer quite fast. As of right now, our government is a right-wing type government that puts a lot of emphasis on things such as the traditional christian family and really goes against any type of progress, especially when it comes to lgbt rights and climate change policies, which makes it hard for anyone who supports these causes to call themselves christians (even though you should be allowed to have your own opinions and be religious at the same time), or to believe in god all together. I’ve also seen that couples are starting to give up on religious traditions: they don’t get married at a church when they are not believers anymore (for example my parents aren’t religious, but they got married at a local church because it was a tradition to do so), they don’t get their kids baptised (when i was younger it was very common to baptise your child even if you and your partner weren’t believers, because it was seen as a moment to celebrate your kid’s birth with family and friends and it didn’t really have a connection to religion for most couples), or they don’t send their kids to sunday school anymore (which I attended for years even though my family wasn’t religious). I feel like these types of traditions are declining in my generation in general. When we talk about religion in Italy is also worth noting that there is a massive difference in the way religion is perceived in the north and in the south. The north (which is where i come from) has always been more progressive (due to many historical reasons), therefore is the part with less religious people (mainly christians). Especially when we talk about milan as a city, milan has always been seen as the capital of italian progress, the more diverse and open-minded big city of the country. If we compare milan to rome, although they both have their fair share of christian influence, rome is still very attached to the old christian city image, and it is usually considered way behind milan in terms of progress. In general, the people from the south (and the centre for the most part I would say) still see religion as a quite important part of their lives (or their traditions at least), whereas people from the north are starting to grow apart from religious traditions. I hope i got my points across, and thank you for reading it you made it this far
Thank you, that was very interesting and well written
And that's why Italy has one of the lowest population growth rates in the world. You are dying out.
Thanks for giving us some insight into Italy, north south differences, etc.
I’m not even Italian or Catholic but that’s how I see Italy. WOW! I guess I was right. I think you’re not wrong despite of me being an American Evangelical Christian.
The mistake is you assume “progress” is leftist politics. What matters is the Truth of the universe and the salvation of your eternal soul. You’re destroying your life and civilization as quickly as possible by abandoning Jesus Christ
6:56 Hindu Gen Z here that’s Indian! No idea how we’re more religious, but if I had to guess it’s more about like the culture and identity that comes along with being Hindu you know? The traditions and rituals we follow and the festivals we celebrate, instead of the actual, unwavering belief that the gods exist, for our generation. We can still understand the morals and life lessons we learn through the Ramayana and Mahabharata without having 100% faith in the deities themselves. My faith wavers, but I appreciate the peace I feel when doing puja. So even though I’m not really convinced on the existence of the gods themselves it would feel really weird to call myself atheist/agnostic.
Jai sri ram
keep it up.
i feel the exact same way! i’m also a gen z hindu, and while the existence or non-existence of deities doesn’t really matter to me, i also appreciate the lessons and moral values i can learn from hinduism. and also, like you said, culture is a big part of it too.
False. Gen z hindus use hinduism as a political identity to oppress the minority in india
Atheism is predominantly a western philosophy. If you really press hard a self-proclaimed Indian 'atheist' they would still have some belief that God exists. It is a deeply spiritual civilization with 99% of 1.6 billion people having some belief in divine power. Even 1% who don't believe in God would never disrespect someone's religion and sacred practices. Whereas in the west it's common to see people mock religions or even get offended if you wish them Merry Christmas.
As a Gen Z Arab exmuslim, I am incredibly aware of what you are talking about. Even myself, I must admit that there us a draw to label myself as “muslim” again despite my complete disbelief in the religion. And I have most definitely gotten and felt closer to my arab identity. This does not mean however that I have become more conservative, quite the contrary. I am more progressive than ever. There are definitely reasons to these feelings, which makes the draw so strong. I am not even so sure why I feel this way.
No one wants to be alone.
I wonder if the rise in Muslim identity coincides with a rise in conservative politics or more progressive politics in western countries.
Yeah, when people assume that we're Muslim, whether for positive or negative reasons, it makes us tie ourselves down closer even if I disagree with Islam. When someone called me a terrorist for no reason, instead of saying I'm not Muslim, I doubled down, just because.
On the other hand, I once popped my tire at 2am, in complete darkness The only person who helped me was a muslim, because he assumed I was muslim. Once again, that made me double down and I called him brother.
I know that, no matter what, if anything bad ever happens, I'll be perceived as Muslim, hated by non Muslims but helped by Muslims. This makes me tie myself to muslim identity even if I haven't believed in Islam for years.
@@only_fair23 that’s so true
@@only_fair23you explained it very well. I didn’t look at it that way till I read your comment.
I am a millenial Hindu atheist from India practising as a physician. First, you need to understand that most Hindus are just Hindu identity wise and most, for several centuries have never studied there scriptures and religious rituals are also more a matter of maintaining cultural identity rather than a good understanding of the religion.
Second, the multiple iterations of Hindu philosophy, has also made many Hindus be ambivalent about their identification as Hindus since they don't have a definitive view of what it means. Even today, there is a huge spectrum of beliefs. There are communities which are monotheistic, polytheistic, henotheistic. There are communities which practise polygamy & polyandry. There are communities which are matriarchal. There are communities which worship non-Vedic dieties and some even worship DEMONS/ASURAS [which for the majority of Hindus are evil]. We don't mind TRANSGENDERS OR EUNUCHS [called HIJRAS today or KINNERAS in the scriptures]. In fact, in North India, people believe TRANSGENDERS/EUNUCHS HAVE DIVINE POWERS & are given whatever they demand at weddings.
Third, as Indians become more educated and more access is available via internet and social media to study and understand Hindu scripture and Indian history, many millenials and Gen Z have come to believe that Dharmic religions are the closest to the definition of SECULARISM.
Hence, identifying more with Hinduism is actually closer to secularism in complete contrast to your comment which suggest that they are contradictory.
In fact, Hinduism has many atheistic philosophies. Outside of Hinduism BUT within DHARMIC religions, Jainism & Buddhism & Sikhism are atheistic. Within Hinduism, there are several philosophies which are atheistic such as Ajivaka, Carvaka, Samkhya, Advaita etc.
So, HINDUISM OR SANATANA DHARMA are NOT exactly in contradiction to the modern definition of SECULARISM.
I am a rationalist & atheist myself born in a HINDU family but my religion's philosophy does not consider me as an APOSTATE OR BLASPHEMER OR SINNER. Such a dichotomy can only be in the mind of someone who is looking at HINDUISM from the background of Abrahamic religions BUT within HINDUISM, it is completely normal.
Every new philosophy in Hinduism has arisen on the basis of debate & opinion with ONLY ONE EXCEPTION WHICH WAS VIOLENT. There has been healthy competitive debates with new & old philosophies withing HInduism and competing with Jainism & Buddhism BUT only occasional episodes of violence.
You will never find the degree of violence in the history of HINDUISM compared to Pagan Vs Monotheistic religions, violent conflicts within Judaism, violent conflicts bw Arianism & Athanasianism, the several violent schisms in Christianity, the violent FITNAS OF ISLAM, the holy wars between the three Abrahamic religions continuing till today.
The only significant violent conflicts, as far as I have understood, within the HINDU PHILOSOPHICAL SPECTRUM has been between Shaivitism vs Vaishnavatism, that too, limited to few regions, and lasted about 2 centuries and even this was nowhere near the conflicts I mentioned about.
Hence, being MORE HINDU DOES NOT CONTRADICT SECULARISM OF HINDUS BECAUSE THE RELIGION ITSELF IS SECULAR.
You really have to study the religion and its philosophy as well as the history, political/religious/philosophical/sociological to understand it. IT IS HUGE WITH LOTS OF MISSING INFORMATION BUT VERY VERY INTERESTING. Then only can you understand that THERE IS NO CONTRADICTION.
You forgot to mention that Hindus who are opposed to Transgenders and atheism are more likely influenced by abhrhamic ideas than Hindu ideas but claim to be katter conservative Hindus.
Buddism and jainism is atheistic but not sikkism. And even among buddists many worship bodhisatvas.
@@nidheeshpraveen81 There are actually two different versions of Atheism. Note that the term Nastik used in the Vedas is NOT the same meaning as the western term ATHEISM.
When westerners translated into English, they equated the two. The definition of Nastik, as per Vedas, means anyone who does not believe in VEDAS & BRAHMAN. By this definition, VEDANTA philosophy such as ADVAITA is NASTIK, which translated in English becomes ATHEIST. So, please NOTE here that every person of other religions that DO NOT BELIEVE in Vedas are also NASTIK according to Vedas BUT as per Western definition, they are NOT ATHEIST because they still believe in a God.
I hope this will clarify the difference in meaning of ATHEISM & NASTIK.
So, Buddhism/Jainism/Sikhism are NASTIK as per Vedas, and hence, translated into English, they are classified as ATHEISTIC religions although the intended meaning are actually different. AS per Vedas, all these religions as well as Advaita/ Samkhya/Ajivaka/Charvaka are all NASTIK.
Now, as per the western definition of Atheism, Sikhism does become ATHEIST. Sikhism does NOT define either the origin, activity, characteristics, deeds or the rules laid down by God. Simply speaking, Sikhism when invoking Waheguru, is invoking an unknown entity which rules all BUT is always a mystery. It does not characterise God's opinion on Good and Evil nor powers nor rules. So, just like Buddhism & Jainism, Sikhism is an atheistic religion where the rules are laid down by sages & seers without any relation to whether God exists or not.
So, Sikhism is atheist as per both Western meaning as well as Vedas. But, if you want to be liberal, you can call it AGNOSTIC.
This is my understanding of how religions are classified academically.
PLEASE NOTE that you can have a religion without a God. The term religion only encompasses the rites and rituals, not the God. The fields of study are also different. THEOLOGY relates to the study of religion, METAPHYSICS to study of nature of God, ONTOLOGY to the study of the reality around you & trying to explain it and so on and so forth.
AND, there are those who believe in a GOD BUT do not follow any regimented lifestyle i.e religion. Such people are academically called DEISTS.
@@maheshdocherla first of all from my knowledge there is only one common definition of atheist. Atheist is a person who does not believe in the existance of god. There is no vedic or western different definition. From even indian prespective the charvahakas and four schools of hinduism that are samkhya, yoga, nyaya, and vaisheshika can be considered athiest and buddism and jainism can be placed in between agnostism and atheism but not sikkism. Sikhs clearly believe in one god that they by the name waheguru (wonderous lord) who almighty and universal sikh holy guru grand sahib also refer to these god as ik onkar (one god) even the founder of sikkism guru nanak also believed in one god that he called as rub. So belief in one almighty, universal, and formless god always existed among sikhs they believe and recognise the existence of one god they call as waheguru. So sikhs cannot be recognised as athiests. And advaita vedanta cannot be considered as athiestic because vadanta believes in the existence bhraman one unchanging and only reality that can be considered as a god.
@@nidheeshpraveen81 There is a Vedic definition of NASTIK. Sikhs are NASTIK as per that definition. As per the Western philosophy definition of ATHEISM, they would come under either DEIST as per your understanding or AGNOSTIC as per the academic understanding.
Do you think ADVAITA of Shankaracharya DID NOT BELIEVE IN GOD? Then why did MADHVACHARYA of the DVAITA school call it a NASTIK philosophy alongside Buddism and the other philosophy?
That is actually the first chapter of his most popular book where he starts of by listing the NASTIK philosophies already existing and then, he goes on to attack ADVAITA because it is an VEDANTA philosophy meaning its philosophy is based on what comes AFTER the Vedas i.e the UPANISHADS.
BUT, as per the Western definition, ADVAITA is NOT ATHEIST because it still does believe in a God but says since God is in every living thing & being of nature, both are the same. That is what the term ADVAITA means.
The same line of argument is presented for Sikhism in academics. Sikhs do believe in a God BUT there is structure to it which is the common feature of THEISM. They consider GOD as a mystery that can never be unravelled or understood and hence, do not bother much about it. That is why they satisfy the definition of NASTIK.
As regards to satisfying the western definition, it varies depending on which scholar you are following, whether he is a Sikh himself or whether he is a secular academic.
When I state Sikhism as an atheistic religion, I refer to term NASTIK. This is as per academic scholars who study and compare and scientifically categorise religion. I am not going by what religious scholars of individual religions call themselves or others because their opinions can NEVER be objective since the beliefs can never be verified.
In fact, some of the arguments I have heard from my Sikh colleagues go on the line of the arguments of the SAMKHYA philosophy, which is almost the same as Greek EPICUREANISM.
I would love to see their numbers related to any given supernatural belief. I do see many young people becoming less religious, but not necessarily more scientific literate. They are, I think, exchanging religion for more exotic stuff, like crystals, pseudoscience, etc.
omg yesss, when will people realize that religion and stuff like tarot and astrology are 2 sides of the same coin
Yeah, I bet most of them would be Astrology girls 💀
Yeahh as a zoomer, a lot of girls are very spiritualist with crystals and stuff, but it’s definitely less prevalent than Christianity would have been, and way less harmful. Also, a lot of people are just generally spiritual or generally believe in a high power, but no specific set of beliefs.
Didn't Religion For Breakfast sorta have a vid on this? It might have been specifically "manifesting." Especially due to covid, having a more personal religion made a lot of sense.
When there are growing denominations of a faith...40000 Christian denoms... Your religion is dying.
47 year old Hungarian here. In my country, the "state-approved religion" was dialectic materialism until the late eighties. I remember, in 1990, when I started high school, there were so many Christian kids around me. The most religious was the daughter of a former secretary of the party. Many children were enrolled to catechism at that time.
A former schoolmate (same age) told me about the wedding celebration of her parents when she was 14. Her parents were officially married before her birth. The church wedding was "postponed". Similarly, a long-married polititian had a church wedding immediately after the fall of the Socialiste regime. It was utterly ridiculous.
About six or eight years ago, K-12 curriculum also contains obligatory catechism or ethics (the latter is also based on Christian morality.) In theory, the parents can pick, which religion, but the selection is limited.
In short, it is unlikely that young Muslims "skew" the data.
Of course he doesn't know Orban south border lock. Usually religion mean support of full gay married and transgender rights.
I'm roughly your age (but I figure as a Millennial, since I'm from 1977). I'm from Italy and my father was a Communist back then, so he didn't want me to get baptized. I ended up being baptized when I was 6 (it turned out better this way, at least I got to enjoy the presents).
But, when I started high school in 1990 (the same year as you did) I was already an atheist, so it turns out he was right.
@@patriciaszabo8015 sorry but being trans is not a gender
@@DioBrando-qr6yeabout what?
Islam offers a complete way of life that brings peace, purpose, and a direct connection with the Creator, guiding individuals to lead a life of compassion, justice, and spiritual fulfillment. So i recommend u all to study and research Islam with an open heart also ask God to guide u to the right path because u r responsible for ur hearafter and God has already done his part by sending the messengers and books the rest is up to u and u have to do it for urself and i primise u God willing if u sincerely ask for guidance from one true God he will guide u.
Surah Al-Ikhlas (Chapter 112):
"Say, 'He is God, [Who is] One, God, the Eternal Refuge. He neither begets nor is born, Nor is there to Him any equivalent.'"
The near-global call for theocracies whether its islamic nations or people in the west trying to create christian nations, we're seeing a resurgence of this sort.
Personally, I see this as something that will increase atheism as it did the last time, but that's also me being hopeful and biased towards our side so take my guesses with a grain of salt.
Islamism is the biggest religious threat of our time.
Zhis works both ways: the rise of the nones actually motivates those fundamentalists to become more fundamentalist and louder. They feel threatened, there's no place to run to, so they fight. As their numbers shrink, expect this to become worse until they slide off into irrelevancy in spite of their struggles.
@@KaiHenningsenslide off into irrelevancy or decide to doomsday us all to bring about their end times.
Muslims havent had a caliphate in 100 years so i see why
@@KaiHenningsen yeah because they see losing the majority as a disaster for their control, the irony being the harder they try to grip on the more they alienate their own young in the end which is part of why we break free as we grow older and more able to exert our own wishes.
I am from India. I am an atheist now as I am becoming more aware of the religious exploits by the politicians.
Hinduism is a way of life. It's really great if you are hindu also people are tolerant to athiest unless and until athiest don't make any allegations or hurt their religious sentiments.
Most of the people are busy in their daily life thinking about the loans, emi to pay, healthcare,etc. Hence they don't get the time to reflect on the religious stuff.
They just simply follow what their parents taught them.
হ্যাঁ , মোটেই সহ্য করে না - নাস্তিক হওয়া মানে কিছুদের জন্য পাপ - অন্য রাজ্যে যাও - বুঝতে পারবে
@@soumyadeepsengupta9797dude stop. Really stop spreading propaganda.
I doubt that. I personally know many Hindus who are really well versed in their religious text and still do not respect my life decisions of being an atheist. It is fine I don't mind that but the saying of Hinduism being the way of life and not a religion is just another way of trying to digest hinduism as something other than a religion. Sorry but Hinduism is a religion and also a way of life (like all religions). Almost all religions lay down certain pre-requisites on how to live your life and so arguably they too are promoting a way of life. I personally do not mind anybody being a hindu or a Muslim but if you are an extremist or your religion is your only identity, then it is a problem.
@@justsomerandomguy6719They are not enough vered then. They probably belong to a certain school within hinduism and deny other schools. Hinduism's acceptance of atheism comes from religious scriptures. Two of the six orthodox hindu schools of thought, classical samkhya and reformed purv mimansa are atheistic (agnostic more accurately).
@@justsomerandomguy6719 There is no central scripture or belief of hinduism. There is no common belief that all hindus share except ig culture.
I noticed the Global Religion 2023 study is very heavily skewed towards what one might perceive as "First World Countries"; mostly countries that are either Western or Asian, tend to do very well economically, or really ingrained in popular culture. Almost all of the African and Middle Eastern countries are completely ignored, and those regions are very, very religious. I'm willing to bet that secularism and atheism/agnosticism might actually be overrepresented, and their numbers might actually be smaller globally,......unfortunately :(
It's embarrassing, really. They included Thailand and India to "any other religion" instead of making categories for Buddhism and Hinduism.
Good point.
Hello! I've recently stumbled across your channel and really enjoy your videos!! 😊
I'm part of Gen Z (born and raised in Canada) and am a practicing Roman Catholic. I spent a good chunk of my adolescence distancing myself from my faith and exploring others and have recently reverted back to Catholicism. Unlike many Christian households, my immediate family was gentle, compassionate, and supportive in my decision to explore different spiritualities. I'm reallt grateful that they allowed me the space to question, challenge, and later return to the denomination I grew up with. My faith continues to be a major part of my life but one that I choose to keep private due to the political climate where I live and study.
I'm sure other people in my age group can relate to how difficult it can be to find community when it feels that the world becomes more and more polarized each day. As you've said in some of your videos, I do believe it is important to judge people on the content of their character rather than the assumptions we might make about them.
as a former ex muslim who reverted back, i agree.
Are you aware that the Bible says that God wants a personal relationship with you by faith in the blood of Jesus Christ - not by faith in a church?
@@lqenr52i’m curious what made you change your mind
Do you think you 'refound' Catholicism due to its teachings and doctrines, or some other reason like family, community etc?
@@the_luggage it was a combination of different factors for sure but I think a key one (for me at least) was that over the past 8 months or so, I've had a massive increase in spiritual experiences. My family was surprised when I told them I had started going to Church regularly. Where I live, the majority of Church goers are in the 60+ age group so I never experienced pressure from any particular person to return to the faith. I know my experience isn't typical from many stories I've heard...and I certainly don't go around evangelizing post-reversion. But I do treasure my relationship with God, The Holy Family, and the Saints. I'm happy to talk about my faith with anyone who's interested in learning more.
One thing that is of note as someone who is raised as a Hindu is that most Hindus (entire branches in fact) would be considered atheist by most people in the west. In addition, questioning religion is considered a normal part of growing up. I know that I still consider myself Hindu despite being atheist by any definition of atheism I have heard. I’ve also had my questions of religion be encouraged by my traditional parents and religious figures in my life. This is a pretty common experience from what I have seen and may explain the high number of people identifying as Hindu.
Actually not. Hinduism (any branch of it) is not considered atheistisc because every branch of Hinduism advocate for a supernatural deity in some form.
But that is true that doubts are not suppressed and you can question religion without any harm or danger. I'd say most of the Hindus would fall on liberal or secular side according to western. But at the end of the Hinduism is a form of theism.
@@subhashanvs3229 Hmm, depends, today yes but historically the most popular schools of thought within hindus were advaita vedanta and buddhism, both basically do not advocate for anything supernatural, except sometimes a wierd continuation of conciousness.
@@hiruzenmonofuke7344 wooh. What are you saying.Advaita Vedanta subscribe to the idea of gods. They do worship a multitude of deities. It's just they advocate for a universal soul that they call ultimate reality which transcends physical attributes of different deities.
Buddhism also purely is not atheistisc. Buddhism also have lot of supernatural stuff. They believe in all kind of spirits and lesser deities.
@@subhashanvs3229 uh, yes, most advaita vedantists believe in god, but advait vedanta is non theist that's why its always had a relatively small but long and continuous atheistic tradition. Its the same with buddhism, most buddhists also believe in god or gods, but it is also a non theistic school, therefore it has also had a relatively large (though still a minority) atheistic tradition.
@subhashanvs3229 some branches do but the branch I was raised in most definitely does not. My branch is the one that Buddhism originated from which also can fall under an atheist realm. I’m not saying it is identical, just that it has often more in common with atheism than most western religions
2:35 Also Gen Z is only just beginning to have children. So in 15-30 years we can expect to see a very large proportion of children being born and raised in non-religious households.
I would hope too 🤩🔥
Are you sure tha Gen Z's cirth time won't flop like a fish out of water? As a Gen zer myself, I think Gen z may fuckup the demographif pillar(America's looks like a pillar okay).
It won't guarantee the kids won't become religious, it's not particularly common in my experience but I've definitely met folks who were raised agnostic or atheistic that "found" religion later in life, and then too it's also a fact that folks change religions as well which can make for interesting considerations when viewing statistics.
Irreligious people usually have very few or no children.
The sudden changes might take a toll on their mental. We can only expect crime rates to rise even higher. Not only because of less disciplined kids but because of kids changing morals, having no way of knowing what's right and wrong and parents just telling them it's whatever they feel is right or wrong. A world that I don't want to live in. Don't think it's great just because it aligns with your political views, actually use your head for a moment and think about how this might actually affect your life and the world, not just whatever tickles your dopamine receptors.
I think that a lot of these statistics are incorrect. Not in that those weren't the answers given especially by gen z, but that there's a massive epidemic of saying "I'm this Christian denomination" based on genealogy and nothing else. I know waaaayyy too many people between 15-25 who would say they were of their family's religion despite less than zero actual adherence to, belief in, or even knowledge of that religion. It's just their default answer. "Oh, my family is Catholic according to my grandma so I'm Catholic"
If people asked me in front of my family, I would say I'm christian. Just because I don't want to be the black sheep
Agree with this. I know devout Christians but most religious people only identify as such culturally. Don’t follow the beliefs, at best attend church once a year. I’ve noticed some become stronger in religious to grapple with loneliness and others (muslims) cannot leave their religion due to being disowned.
Im a gen z born in a Muslim country to a muslim (non practicing) gambling father and an extreme religious muslim mother, so i had seen both side. Growing up as a Muslim is just as a tradition to me, then i become non practicing Muslim after graduate, but after few years of non practicing, im felt like a void in my heart that i don't know how to cope. I searching online for the answer but the only way is either the combination of sex, drug, alcohol and gambling which is forbidden in islam. I know that these things will absolutely devastating me in the future so im doing my best to avoid it. So recently im trying my best to become practicing Muslim by starting to perfecting 5 salah. (english is my 3rd language)
Welcome back.
The more you try to fill that void with materialistic pleasures, the larger it gets...
only worshiping Allah can fill it
Alhamdulillah 🫡❤
welcome back brother/sister
@Aksarallah Indeed with the remembrance of Allah, do hearts find peace
3:14
As someone who is no longer religious and part of Gen Z, yes it’s because I still live at home and my mom would freak out if I didn’t go to church unfortunately.
I think the number of church attendance for Gen Z will definitely go down as we get older and no longer live at home where some of us are forced to go or can’t express that we don’t want to safely.
Christianity and Catholicism will grow in the U.S as Latino migrants come in
That ain't the trend buddy@@calidawg510
Good for her, your mom only wants what's best for you.
@@Amethyst. Indoctrination into a religion that denied science is not beneficial
@@Amethyst. lmao what a brainrot comment. why does mom doesn't respect her son's choice on a very serious topic? because she doesn't see her son as a human being, she sees him as her voodoo doll or smtng.
You are correct about Turkey, the key info missing though is that A LOT of the secular people have left. After the coupe attempt a few years ago the government was cracking down on descent and put a bunch of intellectuals in jail and then started going after people for social media posts. At the same time Germany offered tech professionals and engineers (of which turkey has A LOT!) jobs, visas and moving expenses. Turkey suffered a massive ‘brain drain’ recently due to political Islam and it has no doubt affected those stats.
interesting
we have quite a lot of turkish immigrants here in western europe. but most i know are muslims. altho im not sure if they actually believe or if its for social benefit. altho most turkish people i know are millenials or older.
@@theflyingdutchguy9870Immigrants who came between 1950 and 1965 and their generations are mostly religious and patriotic, but many of the recent immigrants either do not believe or even if they do, they are more understanding compared to them.
Stop undervalue yor people newbie @@joshhjoness
Will those secular Turkish ppl give their pledge to Isreal since Germany recently made it mandatory for those who want citizenship?
I'm a Gen Z from India. The thing with Hinduism is that you can be a hindu atheist. This kinda screws the whole data collection because all those young people probably still answered Hindu when asked if you're religious. There are atheists in large numbers in India. Another reason for the increase might be that they say they are Hindus in order to not out themselves as atheists to avoid drama in family or be safe from religious goons.
Well I don't see Hinduism as a religion, I think it's simply a culture where people have different faiths for ex: samkhya school of Hinduism actually do not believe in a concept of creator or god and others also have different philosophies like some believe only one true God i.e Krishana while some like Arya samaj believe it's only om .
I m also identify myself a hindu atheist which likes the different philosophies in Hinduism but they are just a theories for me and I do not believe in concept of god
@@harshitsingh6287those are interpretations of God, after millennia of discussion among our scholars nd philosophers.
Since Hinduism isn't like those radical nd close minded religions of the west, it allows views nd opinions regarding the unknown. But still, To believe in any one of those ideas is to inherently believe in god, nd in Hinduism. This doesn't mean atheism.
What Hinduism allows is agnosticism. Don't confuse the two.
Nope the want reservation that's why 😅
yeah, I think the "culturally Hindu but not religiously" thing applies to a LOT of Hindu people, especially of our generation. Like people take mythology as just that... mythology, but we still celebrate all the festivals those myths gave rise to. For example, I pray with my family on Deepawali, not because I believe in any of the Gods I'm praying to, but because that's just what you do to start celebrating Deepawali. My family knows I'm an atheist, and even my grandma who is religious questions the myths all the time, saying they are exaggerated beyond belief but she still chooses to pray every morning to those mythical beings whose stories she doesn't fully believe in.
@@whats-ur-problem nahh, that's a very small subset of people. I don't think there's enough Hindu people who are Hindu solely because of reservation to really skew any data... proportions or percentage wise
In India, Hinduism is becoming more ideological/identity based compared to religious, this is true for other religions too but particularly hinduism imo. Many of my friends around me don't believe in God per say but are active in the religious activities due to the community aspect.
Are you from tamilnadu?
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Hi I’m from Europe and the increase of Muslims is because there’s hundreds of thousands of immigrants who migrated from mainly Islamic countries. That’s how there’s a spike. But the born germans or brits or Swedish with no Middle Eastern background are mainly non-religious.
Exactly
It’s very disheartening to see these averages going up but hopefully these trends towards religiosity won’t continue across the board. Especially in those countries that used to be known for their secular culture
Yeah you got to be delusional or feeble-brained to be a believer.
It's sorta a false positive
No faith, no families, no communties, no children it's a matter of time before the evil is again crushed by the good
I think the only reason the Islam is increasing is because a lot of people who are Islamic are having a lot more children because they live in different parts of the world, for their increasing the us because of mass migrations from the Middle East but not because of anything particularly to do with the religion
I think that's fair in regard to Western countries to which Muslims migrate, but in many places of the world which were secular before Islam is regaining its popularity - Uzbekistan, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan and Turkey. Indonesians and Malaysians can correct me on this, but I think these countries are also becoming more religious than they used to. The reason for that is Saudi and Turkish missionaries being active in proselytism on a global scale.
Also there is islamic concepts of immigration to non islamic countries to slowly increase.
@@GoogleAccount-wy2hcYup and many right wing influencers are promoting it. And even left wing influencers and media.
@@GoogleAccount-wy2hcThat is hard to say for some. In Kazakhstan for instance, the share of Muslims has actually decreased slightly from 70% in 2009 to 69% in 2021, with a lot more now choosing to not specify their religion. The same can be said for Turkey for the data provided by Ipsos seem to conflict with data from polls conducted by local Turkish sources.
For the other countries however, one can indeed confidently say that they are becoming increasingly religious as a result of foreign influence. Though I would still exercise caution, it seems that instead of the countries turning religious as a whole, it is more of the countries becoming polarised.
@@GoogleAccount-wy2hcSaudi and turkish missionaries? No idea what you mean by that
Turkey's statistics are very skewed.
A huge portion of Gen Z are atheists but don't share this with their family out of fear. My mother grew up very religious and reacted irrationally and intensely when I revealed I didn't believe in God.
A big portion of Turkish people, in all generations, grew up Muslim and still call themselves Muslim even tho they don't practice Islam (No daily prayers, no fasting, drinking alcohol etc).
Turkey was built on secularism, but almost every citizen was still Muslim. This created a trend of presidental campaigns using religion to garner votes from the Muslim population. When Turkey was first founded government was secular and the population, including younger generations at the time, were largely religious. In time our government became more intertwined with religion which lead the youth of today into questioning it, causing a big portion of younger people to become atheists unable to share their thoughts with their religious parents.
Older generations are still largely religious but if this trend of younger generations questioning religion continues we'll start to see more atheist voters than religious voters at some point, preventing religious manipulation for votes and allowing Turkey to return to it's secular ways. Although this is a very hopeful prediction on my part.
Hadi ordan
Few decades ago being a Muslim was a problem in Turkey
Do you mean Secular Kamalism created more Muslims and now Erdoganism is creating more atheists? Interesting.
Turkey is either very religious or very secular
as a Turk, this is completely accurate. most people in Turkey does not speak about their views plainly; not just out of fear, sometimes they just identify as a muslim or say that they have a believe in god, but live their lives far away from religious life.
as an atheist i believe this is caused by islam being a "way of life" more than a religion. in order to be 'true' muslim, you have to live a very strict life. and they just don't wanna do "that much", and also not open and honest about it because saying that "i don't want to live a strict religious life" also contradicts with islam.
i think, most of Turks are "muslim by culture, rather than choice".
It’s amazing to see that religion is falling, but I will say as a black person who was once religious and is now atheist, it’s also amazing to see black atheism grow simply because we are considered the most religious group in America (arguably) and that the brainwashing associated with religion in our communities is atrocious. Black atheism used to not be common, but it’s growing it’s great to see that overall we are waking up realizing it’s all fake
Do you have any thoughts on why that’s changing?
I don’t know if this has anything to do with it, but I’m thinking about the term “opiate of the masses”. That’s not necessarily a criticism of religious people. It simply means that when people are suffering and maybe lose hope in this world, they may comfort themselves with religion. They may focus on the thought that ultimately, justice will prevail and things will be better in the afterlife. I wonder if that’s part of the reason black people were traditionally more religious, if they found less hope in this world?
Through that lens, people let go of that “opiate” when it either ceases to be a comfort, or when people they find hope and comfort elsewhere. Obviously, that’s not the only factor though. Lots of things can lead people to question religion.
Anyway, enough of my half-baked rambling. I’m just wondering what you think.
I'm a black American and I consider myself Agnostic about god, Atheist about Christianity. It's good to hear more black people walking away from that religion, I firmly believe our ancestors were seriously brainwashed into believing in Christianity so that they would be tolerant of slavery and being mistreated in general. It's sad when I think of my ancestors being forced to lose whatever faith they had before being beaten and indoctrinated into Christianity!
Thank you for standing up for black atheists. Stay strong and keep up the good work. The sectarian fundamentalism is no good for either black or white people. "Christianity" like other organized "religion" was forced on the world through colossal violence destroying countless of humanity's natural myriad ways of thinking and destroying many many of humanity's diverse peoples and cultures. The reduction of humanity into a few "world religions" monopolizing human thinking has actually been a colossal loss for humanity. Organized "religion" is the biggest and most destructive Tower of Babel (in their own beliefs they don't follow when it comes to themselves) in history. It is better for humanity to be truly free than be under the illusion manufactured by organized "religion" that is really a form of mental, spiritual servitude and a well known tool of outright social and economic bondage.
You're absolutely right. Brainwashing is the right word for it.
Im chillin as a black christian
Well I think technology has a part to play in it. Given that , in era of internet where answers are at tips of your finger having religion to answer the questions is quite rediculus in my opinion. I think people with availability of technology in early adolescence might leave religions early than a person who got internet in his middle ages due to religious stuff on internet
You seem to think people are looking for the answers that are true rather than the answers that they prefer. The internet can be just as useful to spread religious propaganda as it can be to refute them
@@neelsg yes
@neelsg Be that as it may (the confirmation bias), it's harder to avoid truth if one has access to many views. Disinfo obviously radicalizes folks, but learning that critical thinking skills are an actual subject not taught in religious areas will do wonders to encourage skepticism. Plus humans err towards progress - at least we always have. XO
@@Ragdoll6nah the internet in my country india has made everyone more religious and polarised, my country was already very religious before the internet but now everyone is becoming radicalised.
A thing to keep in mind about data from Thailand is that, you are almost always assigned usually buddhist or muslim when you are registered based on your parents religion, and some choose to switch between or to christianity as they get older. there is almost no way to state you are non-religious. it took me a whole day arguing with the lady at the town hall when i wanted to state i was non-religious or follow no religion on my ID card - which is where this data is most likely coming from. the only comparable word to atheist is seen as an insult. The number of *actually* non-religious is not accurate, how ever thailand is a conservative country and religion is deeply entwined into our culture, so i wouldn't be surprised if the *actual* number of non-religious people is still much lower than global averages.
Hinduism is not for believers but for seekers !
As an Hindu I have permission to choose my own path we have tons of ways types !
One of them is athest Hinduism
And I'm one of them its called nastik❤
Islam offers a complete way of life that brings peace, purpose, and a direct connection with the Creator, guiding individuals to lead a life of compassion, justice, and spiritual fulfillment. So i recommend u all to study and research Islam with an open heart also ask God to guide u to the right path because u r responsible for ur hearafter and God has already done his part by sending the messengers and books the rest is up to u and u have to do it for urself and i primise u God willing if u sincerely ask for guidance from one true God he will guide u.
Surah Al-Ikhlas (Chapter 112):
"Say, 'He is God, [Who is] One, God, the Eternal Refuge. He neither begets nor is born, Nor is there to Him any equivalent.'"
You're right it's a joke of a religion
Hinduism is sh...it
@@icecream-wf5yb i respect your view but for me religion should not be organised
7:02 most hindus are secular . Im an ex hindu from Bangladesh . Most indian hindus are ok with all other religion expect islam . And homosexualily is legal there . Liberal hindus (30-40%) are ok with islam too .
India is currently ruled by a secular/ pro hindu party . But till 10 year ago India was ruled by a pro muslim party called INC , they discriminated against hindus ( and still do in inc states as an example , a large percentage of tax is applied in those states hindu temples , goes to inc government but nothing from church , mosque , pagoda goes to the inc government) and many indian Hindus hates that party . Thats one of the reason why more Indian hindus are now religious .
woahh im an ex muslim from bangladesh!
calling the BJP "Pro Hindu" is kinda underselling it.
@@h0rn3d_h1st0r1an bjp just uses Hinduism for votes . Ask yourself why murderer of kanhaiya Lal is still free ? Rapist of 300+ girl in 1992 Ajmer is still free ? Why did the 2023 Mewat riot happened ?
As an indian ex muslim i can confirm this
@@h0rn3d_h1st0r1an BJP is lukewarm in supporting Hinduism at best, help me recall one federally-aided incident that largely (and unconstitutionally) discriminated against Muslims. There isn't one. If anything, BJP leadership is great at building India's economy, which is why a lot of people vote for them. Hindus are more concerned about having a stable income and being useful to society than being radicalized against another religion - which unfortunately is the situation with Islam in Pakistan.
As a Cuban I was raised in a non-religious home since communism played a role in diminishing religion, specifically Catholicism, but after the government stop prosecuting religion in the 90s people started turning religious again but to the African-Cuban religion, which is practiced today by millions of people with different skin colours in the country. In my case I was very skeptical since I was a child and that skepticism was used by a Christian relative that started trying to convert me in a science denialist and showed me biblical archeology hoaxes to turn me Christian but there were a lot of things I didn’t agree with that religion so after doing a real research and finding out about all the hoaxes and I left that religion. Now I am learning about Buddhism and Jainism from an skeptic eye, and there are many things that I agree with these religions with , but I still consider myself an atheist.
Ache Asojano!
@@knyghtryder3599 ashe
Communism itself can be seen as a sort of proxy for Abrahamic religion. There is an Eden, the supposedly classless society of early humans. Corruption and expulsion from paradise due to sin. A prophet, Marx, who made prophecies of an apocalypse and a Judgement Day, the Revolution. It has even splintered into denominations due to disagreements over interpretation of canon. It really bears an uncanny resemblance to an Abrahamic religion.
Religious tumultuous period: Me, precisely after turning 15 years old.
Sudden realization in the middle of the night, "I don't believe in God anymore."
Thank goodness my family still supports me, even if they pretend that nothing has changed; It's been eight years.
Suddenly get a lot more vocal about your beliefs and you may find things suddenly changing. From Tracie Harris' talk about the detrimental impact of religion on family you'll find loss of faith is tolerated if you remain silent about it.
@@stormthrush37 It is a push and pull situation. As long as there is healthy respect for personal choice I don't see the issue. Nobody likes a zealot except for zealots themselves. Raven clearly had that discussion with their family and they respect it even if they don't agree or like it. No need to be constantly shoving it down people's throats, that will just cause resentment.
Damn same here just the other way around
I was the same age
Nearly 30 years ago, I was a pretty radical evangelical. I know the stereotype is to become more conservative as you age, but the opposite happened to me. I wonder how if these young religious conservatives will have a similar path. One can hope
30 years ago I was in the Young Republicans in college. Been a liberal for 24 years now. What changed? The election of 1994, when the party of Eisenhower was replaced by the party of Jerry Falwell.
one can also hope not
@@Amethyst. Keep dreaming. You've ignored the economics for 40 years. Used to be, young people got conservative as they got more equity in their home. Young people today are completely priced out, so by your own your selfishness, you've created the most liberal generation EVER.
For me, i become atheist when start being critical, then become religious again when i realized how out of touch atheistic view is from reality.. too much denialism, inbalance, zero reasoning & unanswered. 😂
Why people become atheist in the first place, are kinda, no brainer, when you actually start being very critical.
@@kingconstantinusthesadisti133 atheistic view? Denialism? Zero reasoning? I’m not sure what you mean
There are a couple things that I think are worth taking note of. The first is that asking people what religion they are in many places, especially in Europe, is not very reliable, as a great many people will identify with a religion that they don't practice or even believe in. My guess is that they choose to claim the religion of their ancestors, regardless of their actual beliefs. Another thing to note is that in my experience Muslims tend to see Islam more central to their identity than do Christians who see their religion as more of a code of ethics and their ticket to the afterlife than an identity. (Not to suggest that Muslims don't also see those aspects as important to their religion.) So, if my experience is representative of the wider population, it is not surprising that the younger generation, who are going to be more concerned with their identities, are more Muslim. I'd also guess that the rise in people who believe in God in countries where there is a large number of atheists (e.g. Sweden) probably has more to do with Muslim immigrants than people adopting a belief in God that they grew up without.
Obviously, this is anecdotal but I know a fair amount of Gen Z near me in America (Central Texas) and in other states who really make christianity central to their identity. Constantly sharing Instagram stories with photos of nature with bible quotes and having a bible verse in their bio are really common. I think because of a lot of alienation from the lockdown and from late stage capitalism, being christian provides a community, shared identity, and comfort when the world is broken and scary. There were about 5 different christian clubs at my high school and they were mostly all protestant and I could not count how many religious clubs exist at my university. For the Gen Z christians around me, I really do think they see their faith as integral to who they are as people not solely a moral system that makes them less scared of death.
@@jigsaw_in_place Insofar as the fear of death is concerned, it seems that that is just one part of the existential comfort that practicing Christians receive from their faith. I don't doubt anything about what you say about the communities around you. Even at my university where hardly anyone seems to be religious there are many Christian groups. I guess what I was trying to say in my original post is that for Christians things such as the moral code they purport to be the result of their faith come first for them and the identity second, whereas for Muslims it often seems to be the other way around. That at least is consistent with my own personal experience growing up Christian. While I took a lot of pride in being Christian, what mattered far more to me was the fact that I was "saved."
@@jeremyray4819 That's definitely true. I think the identity intertwines with the moral code when there is a sense of superiority or a calling to proselytize. I guess a fair amount of Christians that I know show their identity through being extremely outward about "being saved by Jesus," which is tied to their morality. With religion and politics being very connected in the U.S., I think that also plays on both identity and moral code; Christians who believe they are the "real Christians" tend to say that if someone isn't on their side than they are not really Christian. So, to back-up political beliefs Gen Z Christians tend to throw their religious identity in as a sort of "proof" of the morality of their politics. From what I've seen from Muslims that I know, they are very outward about their identity, especially if they wear hijab, but they don't post the same quantity of quotes from religious text or posts telling people they need to be saved than your average younger Christian does.
While I agree with much of this, I think the Christian sectarian fundamentalists certainly do make their religious fundamentalism their whole identity as much as any Muslim fundamentalists. I really see no difference between them.
Church attendance is definitely the better metric. In France it's under 5%. What's more, half the muslims here are non-practicing, and 3rd generation or higher have even lower rates of religiosity.
7:10 as an Indian genZ hindu I'd like to say being more hindu doesn't actually means less secularism. Hinduism according to western standards is polytheistic and pluralistic, we don't go on imposing our religion on others. India isn't secular bcuz of secularism enshrined in constitution it's secular bcuz hindus are 82-83% majority. Some hindus no matter how much they say we don't like secularism truth secularism literally flows in our veins. Younger generations hate secularism bcuz in the context of india secularism was used only for minority appeasement. Hindu reform laws were made but no Muslim or Christian reform law. Hindu temples are still under govt but mosques and churches continue to be free and continue their evangelisation. We have seen many native cultures and practices vanish bcuz many people get brainwashed into following religion not native to the land and considering themselves hald baked Arabs
Christian personal law has been reformed by christians themselves, please learn before saying something like this.
Additionally, you should hear how some babas speak about how they will kill those who dont agree with them and how violent hindu mobs feel empowered to bully religious minorities into following their will(Hijab ban, beef lynching, lies due to love jihad,etc.).
You may not see this as problem now, but eventually these same bullies will start to impose their moral code on everyone else, including secular hindus who dont believe hindu tradition and culture should have the final say on any issue.
@@mangakhoon4517 you disagree bcuz you read nothing about religions. People in the west tend to think being more religious meaning less secular however that definition doesn't apply in the east. Hinduism has always said there are different ways to reach god and always accepted everyone, there's also atheism sect in Hinduism but can't say the same about abrahamic religions(Islam, Christianity, Judaism) they still continue to fight like kids over whose religion is true. They also have contradictory prophecies to each other which makes it hard if not impossible for them to be religious as well as co exist with peace
@@mangakhoon4517 and why does this secular mat bano narrative? Did you even read my whole comment? Secularism in the Indian context has been only consolidation of one particular group, ignoring rights of the majority and other minorities, reforms made only on Hindus and not on Muslims and Christians, absence of a. Uniform civil code, temples still under govt but mosques and churches not controlled, waqf board and so much more. Hindus even if they say they aren't secular are still more secular than the conservatives in other religions. Minorities are still thriving in India, current govt have spent more than half Congress did on minorities. What else do you need as proof? Hindu extremism(I'm not justifying this) at the very best isn't even close to Islamic terrorism.
@@mangakhoon4517 nope Main reason is pakistan it's when pakistani curse hindu for nothing and threats to kill all hindus in india . And many ex muslim channels like sahil are using if to making hindus kattar by tell them about ghwa e hind etc .
It's good hindus are standing for themselves.
I mean I know many people who were killed in Ayodhya during congress time 😢. No one can deny
2nd reason is attack on hindus in recent times stone pelting cases and christian missionarys convert people.
@@mangakhoon4517 I agree with your second comment. all this politically-manufactured "fear" of the "other" religious people is definitely pushing us in the wrong direction
I am an agnostic Hindu millennial from India. But If someone asks my religion I would say Hindu. I do follow various customs due to family/societal pressure. Unfortunately, in India I feel that societal pressure is increasing nowadays. Also, I am quite secular.
Hmm "agnostic" means "WITHOUT knowledge". God wants you to know that if you want to go to heaven when you die, you must trust Jesus Christ. If you want to go to hell, trust something else - anything else.
If you want to go to hell, rely on your good deeds, your sacraments, your church, your baptism, your being a “good person,” or anything else. All roads but one lead to hell.
The road that leads to heaven is narrow. The prideful and self-righteous will not be able to find it. To be saved and go to heaven, you admit you are a sinner and have no righteousness of your own and you need a Savior. Believe that Jesus, died on the cross, shedding His blood for your sins, was buried, and resurrected on the third day in your place. It is that simple.
Pray something like this: “Dear God, I am sorry for being a sinner. I believe Jesus is God who was crucified, died, was buried, and resurrected so His blood can wash away my sins. I only trust in Your blood alone to save me - not my good works or anything else. Please save me from hell. In Jesus’ name, Amen.”
That’s it. It really is that simple and easy to be saved. If you have placed your trust in Jesus for salvation, you are saved forever and you cannot lose your salvation. John 5:24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.
well, if any one understand hinduism then he is secular.
As a Swede, you're definitely right that immigration is a major factor in this. I would however like to also point out something else about these statistics, particularly the percentages of different affiliations (4:06). In my personal experience living here my entire life, the percentage of people identifying as "Christian" can be misleading.
VERY few Swedish people are full-on Christian like Americans are. The people who actually take it seriously are mostly small fringe religious groups (like JW, Word of Life, Pentecostalism), but a somewhat decent chunk of people identify themselves as Christian while hardly believing any of the theology. They were just baptized as infants which made them members of the Church of Sweden and then didn't bother leaving, and they may view it as a sort of cultural identity. Many also get confirmed at age 14 despite not really believing in it because they get gifts from family and go on fun trips and such.
In my whole life I've met ONE Swedish person who was an actual practicing Christian who took the Bible seriously (not counting aforementioned fringe groups). Most people I've encountered who aren't atheists don't believe in the biblical tri-omni god, they'll usually say something more along the lines of "I just think there's, you know, something bigger than us or whatever" but they don't pray, they don't go to church, and they don't think Jesus died for their sins and resurrected on the third day. There are even PRIESTS who hardly believe in that stuff, and the Church of Sweden is super progressive and participates in organizing pride events and such!
Basically what I want to convey is that the 37% Christian statistic shown in the study absolutely does not mean 37% of our population are anywhere near the sort of Christians that we see in the US. For the most part it's just a cultural identity with hardly any actual supernatural beliefs.
Feels the same here in Germany
7:09 India genZ is more Hindu because it's linked with this trend towards nationalism. Hinduism is a nationalism in India, it's the federal nation of India's nationalism, it's a political party etc, in opposition to the petty nationalisms from the states which makes up India, and especially in opposition to the Islamic religion. So this trend in genZ Hinduism is linked to the current trend in many democracies of sliding into authoritarianism.
7:49 As someone who has lived in Japan off and on, very interested in the history and culture, and coming from a Christian upbringing (I was born in 1982, I decided firmly that I was Atheist in 2008)... Japan's "religiosity" is definitely complicated and deeply complex. With the unique influence of Buddhism, Christianity and in some slight moments in history Hinduism; the longer history of Shinto and other animist religions of the region lends to a very weird religiosity and superstition. Very long standing traditions in superstition pervade society and even the younger generations are still following them, though they are not as spiritually connected to the practices. Japan leans heavily on secularism when conducting state affairs, but seem to still be deeply entrenched in their Shinto past. People walk around with charms or have doorways marked by them and don't really know why. I mean, they do know why, but I can't find the words to describe the spiritual disconnect that is going on. This is of course my view and as I grow older, it might change. But I see kids say they do not believe in a god or "higher power" but still attend shrines and services related to them, participating in festivals and "praying". Until I learn more, I think it is partly Shinto's mix of animism and ancestor worship that lends to this weird limbo that those of us in the US are not accustomed to.
Buddhism And Hinduism same shit ! Buddhism is exported version of Hinduism which remove bhakti (max level worship)
Japanese's culture extremely similar to Indian ! As myself a atheist but on my certificate I'm Hindu😂
As long you guys don't embrace Islam
Not many with a God belief, but oh my they're more superstitious than a minor league catcher who won't wash his shirt when he's on a streak.
Gen-z Muslim faces crisis that the last generation didn't faced.We saw our people being massacred across the world, but we were so much helpless that we couldn't even scream.Whenever someone gained courage to raise voice either he was jailed or killed or called terrorist.
Our grandfather fought for to be free from islamic laws. Our father prefered his national identity before muslim identity .Now we prefer to be identify as Muslim before anything else.
Muslims are not victims. Stop crying out in pain when you strike the world
This is absolutely true, I come from a Muslim background and before I didn't really identify as a Muslim but now.... I'll never ever be anything else, they want to kill people like me? Well I'm steadfast in my faith and ready to fight.
Would you mind to give examples for your stating? I only read (or watch) news from europe and sometimes east asia but I never read that muslims were massacred here (oc I read about the Uigurs in China).
As a Swede, yes I also think that the statistics probably are affected by immigration. On the other hand, I (a Christian) am more religious than both of my parents, but I'm probably an outlier.
Incredibly so I’d imagine. Nowhere north of the alps had Muslims inhabitants in any double digits before the immigration of Turks to Germany and the Yugoslav wars. It’s ridiculous to imagine that anything but a tiny fraction of the Western European population of Muslims are converts.
Are you aware that the God of the Bible wants an intimate relationship with you through His son Jesus?
@@SchlussMitSchmerzencannot you spread Islam without using a fake account and spread lies? The God of Abraham makes no intimacy. He makes words.
@@SchlussMitSchmerzen Your profit was a pdf file
Thank you Drew! Great statistics. In South Korea over 50% young adults claimed to be atheists. But you are right, we must be careful with such information and make sure we understand what it means to them. And you are right that worldviews change with a time.
As a muslim convert from Hungary I have noticed something interesting. So I'm a university student and obviously my uni is very diverse so I meet lots of people from lots of different countries.
The muslims from muslim majority countries like Morocco. Algeria, Egypt etc. they tend to be way less religious than converts or people whom were born into muslim families in non-muslim majority countries. And they have also way less knowledge about Islam than converts even tho they get Islamic education in school. Also these people who come from muslim majority countries tend to abandon their faith very quickly once they come to the west, they start drinking, doing drugs, going to parties etc. These are the people whom were "muslims" out of family tradition. And the most interesting country is Iran. I have NEVER in my life seen a muslim person from Iran, they are all atheist even tho their government makes it look like the country majority is muslim.
And this is exactly the reason why I hate when someone identifies as a muslim while they are going totally against their faith. It is very dangerous to do so, as people tend to judge billions of people because of one individual.
The converts are very often the more obedient believers. That is true for other religions, too. If they convert out of their own devices, they are likely rather convinced of it, and if they do it to please their environment, i.e. a tactical conversion, they will tend to be under more scrutiny and need to play along. Social pressure plays a big role in obedience of people, so it is no wonder they lapse when getting rid of the oppressive environment.
Regarding the Iranians, I believe that it will be predominantly the non-believers that are forced out of the country, and therefore are those you are more likely to meet. OTOH, with all the repression there in Iran, it should be no surprise that people are thoroughly fed up with religion, and jettison it at the first opportunity. The mullahs there may well be more effective in creating atheists than any "New Atheist" in the West.
Most of the people coming from the religious minority( middle east) they are muslim because they live in a country that are majority are muslims, and in that country leaving their religion have a very high cost to pay for example, your family, relative, friends, and the people you acquainted with , they would easily abandoned you. Unlike in most European countries its totally normal to leave or convert religion.
It totally depends on the family. I know more "progressive" muslim families than conservative ones. Ofc "abandoning religion" in the sense of them openly saying they don't believe in God would have consequences but other than that not really. But getting married to christians, jews sometimes even other religion is no longer an issue for them. Also I know originally muslim person converted to Christianity and his family was fine with that.@@themasterMi7
@@xiaomin3509 as a person born raised up in Saudi Arabia, I can assure you its extremely rare to find family who accepted their children when they convert, And about marriage if its a guy marrying to non Muslim its okay but a woman marry non Muslim is also high price to pay.
@@themasterMi7I think western society is more open-minded than the rest of the world. Even Muslim-majority countries like Albania, Azerbaijan, Bosnia, etc. In my country, people take their faith much more seriously. Even my state, Kerala, has the most developed society in India. While here, a Hindu man got
k!lled by his relatives for converting to Islam. And also daughters held in their house by fathers for the same reason. After that, one of them returned to Hinduism. Anyway, nowadays, atheism is growing rapidly here in Kerala.
In India there are many religions: 🕉️☪️✝️☸️
The growth of Islamic fundamentalism in western countries such as Sweden and Germany can also be attributed to how it’s considered politically incorrect to contradict some of the worst aspects of such religion yet politically correct to criticize Christianity and other more predominant religions. This allows Muslim majority communities to become insular and lack any exposure to outside ideas that may be damaging to their preconceived world view.
In the west, the “vulnerable” Islamic communities enjoy a very privileged position such as immunity to criticism (as you will face the wrath of western progressive institutions for doing so) even if the intolerance and virulent homophobia they display spits in the face of the ideals held by progressive politicians (the paradox of tolerance)
Many Muslims in the west also do not feel any obligation or pressure to integrate or even learn the local language and are allowed to balkanize forming their own communities with their own enforcers that will go as far as harassing and intimidating locals without much pushback from the politically correct authorities.
I was a religious Muslim at one point as a GenZ myself, society forces you to it and thinking is prohibited, leaving Islam is considered apostatism and it’s punishable by death in most Muslim countries especialy the third world countries ones, after deep researching and leaving “the true religion” I relised that there are millions of GenZ atheists like me “talking as someone from Iraq” most people I knew daily were secret atheists and agnostics, but what can they do or say if their pubishment is d3ath for even daring to think or question this religion’s validity, anyways it’s also declining in all Muslim countries it’s just the fact that people are afraid to speak especially the fact that they can get killed by “their own families” if they say a word
very true coming from EX-musilm from egypt
If you research islam honestly and logically, you will come to the conclusion that it's correct and it's not even close. Maybe sometimes death punishment is used to stop people from leaving islam, but it's not at all as come as you say it is, and it's even forbidden in islam. Most of the time, people leave islam because of ignorance about their own faith. So when they hear someone speak confidently against islam, they lose their faith. But maybe they don't want to believe and don't want to have accountability in their lives. So that would be an issue in their harts. (figuratively) This is not meant disrespectful, but I feel like you're disingenious and you're lying about islam. You could just be ignorant, but I think that this is out of hate in your heart. But I can't know that, but if this is the case, think about what you're doing.
Remember those death penalty that were given by some 'Islamic' nations aren't really from the teaching of Islam. The Quran literally says: Lakum dinukum waliyadin.
@@Ayoubkaddih Muhammad himself is the one who literally commanded that those who leave the religion should be put to death. So how can you say that killing apostates is forbidden in Islam? Are you saying that Muhammad was wrong? That he taught falsehoods?
@@minjiu__u Muhammad himself commanded the death penalty for apostates. So yes, it is 100% a teaching of Islam.
In Sweden as you noticed, many people have a tendency to believe in some form of “higher power”, but they don’t really believe in the religious institutions, as the traditional Christian one for instance.
Sweden is a little bit contradictory in that sense, many Swedes, not only Gen Z doesn’t believe in ‘the God’ but still believe in something.
This is common in the Netherlands as well, where it is dubbed 'ietsisme' (literally somethingism). Polls like this are fairly inaccurate generally. I mean you ask me about my religion I say I have none, you ask me whether I'm Catholic I say yes, because I definitely am Catholic, but I'm not talking about the religion, but about the cultural sphere I belong to. Adherence to a religion does not say much about personal beliefs, personal beliefs do not neatly fit into categories and categories drive these statistics. The eye test is simple: people become less religious over time.
@@alfonsstekebrugge8049 Statistics and polls are mostly indications, I can agree with that, they don’t reveal much about personal beliefs of individuals. But I wouldn't claim that so many in Sweden (Gen Z I can't answer for) would claim to be cultural Protestants even though we in Europe are culturally colored regardless of what we think of our Christian heritage.
In Sweden, for example, as internal studies have shown, many are inclined to believe in a higher power, as I wrote earlier. And much of these influences comes from the East, Buddhism and other similar philosophies and religions that have been growing in the recent decades in the West overall.
And therefore, I can find it a little ironic when people think that Sweden is so very secular and atheistic. Of course many would say: -”no, I don't believe in God, angels or demons, but I believe you can talk to spirits via mediums or in karma etc”.
And as you mentioned, many so called secular countries in Europe is probably very similar in those regards.
@@Sixtra Can't say I've met many people who actually dabble in such vague notions of Eastern spirituality, but I suppose some do. Generally though people tend to hold dear to some sort of imagined metaphysical notion about mainly the spirits of the dead still being around. Much like you would find in Japan for instance. Superstition that one knows to be false, but is respected as personal rituals for the deceased, ie putting the ash of a parent in a piece of jewelry, telling stories to children about the deceased becoming stars etc. Perhaps that is what you are saying as well.
I used to be perplexed by how people can be religious in the modern World, but then I learned about how cognitive functions operate differently for everyone of us. I'm autistic and my brain operates in a way that makes being religious impossible, but I am in a minority. For most people being religious is easy, especially if feeling is more dominant judgemental cognitive function than thinking. If I am not wrong, social media has taught younger generations to trust their feelings more by creating echo chambers and opinion bubbles. If it feels right, it is the truth and others must be wrong. This of course leads to more divided and more dysfunctional society, because people can't agree about "facts" anymore and working toward common good becomes impossible. The ruling class probably likes this and screws us peasants while we fight over basic facts in the form of cultural war. The "good" future I used to hope for is impossible. Our brains do not allow it.
I used to be strongly against both religion and religious people in the past, but becoming wiser I have fine-tuned my opinion: Being religious itself isn't always that bad. What is bad is how institutional religions are used by the ruling class to control people and the society. Believing in God doesn't make anyone hate other people. Religious brainwashing does. It's also good to keep in mind that we atheists can be hateful people too. It's just ignorance, prejudice, fear and bitterness in our case. People believing or not believing in higher power is not the problem.The problem is greed and not caring about other people. That's what causes most misery in the World. Whoever invents cure for greed will become the greatest hero in history!
Most atheist only hate on bigoted religious people so thats kinda deserved
7:00 Drew: India has seen a big rise in Hindu nationalism over the last couple of decades, as personified by Modi, so it wouldn't surprise me if the increase is more about identity politics than spirituality.
True. After BJP Government, Hindutva beliefs increase in Hindus. They almost became Hindu extremists.
Yeah , ure right actually but its not only about, mr joker ‘MODI’ other clowns are also there in the bjp( bitch and jackass party) and somehow idiot voters seem to like their politics which they hated sometime before
Dude this has nothing to do with modi. It seems like you watch bbc way too much.
@@sampatkalyan3103 I didn't say it was about modi. Have you tried reading better?
@@thefisherking78 you said the truth bhai the rise is because of the right wing government rather than any enlightenment
anti religious discrimination is really strong in the west. You will often get bullied, mocked or looked down upon for your faith. Very common in Sweden. I have faced a lot as a christian
Very unlikely. What's more likely is people are fed up with your ridiculous attempts at proselytization, which induces a response you think is discrimination.
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In America you'll get bullied for being non-Christian. Hindu, Muslim, Jew, Atheist, you'll get bullied. I think people are just sick of religion being shoved in their face everyday. Christianity made many Nordic religions extinct, they took over those places and Christianified Nordic beliefs. If course they're becoming sick of Christianity bc it basically invaded their country
Good.
Yep never heard of that anywhere actually, in fact is atheists are held to such a high standard as to not piss of religious folks, meanwhile Christian’s can refuse gay people at their businesses on grounds of religious beliefs.
In India, Hinduism is going through a major rebranding and more focused on the benefits you can derive from it to lead a better life than focus being on worshipping God.
I think the difference between Gen X and Gen Z lies in the distinction between religion as practice versus religion as culture.
Gen Xs treat religion mostly as CULTURE, in the sense that they base their political views and relationships on it, but in a sort of vague, nostalgic way that doesnt necessarily reflect in actual serious participation in church.
Whereas Gen Z is less religious as a whole, but the zoomers who do participate in religion tend to be more assidious in its practice.
You’ll be surprise that many Gen Z are adopting witchcraft.
@@fernandocuriel124 Yeah, as a way to feel edgy and unique, but they don't actually believe in it.
@@SanctusPaulus1962 Probably but yeah, They might also be playing witchcraft as a rebellion against Christianity.,
Silent generation here. Most of my peers in 3 countries have abandoned any religious affiliation. I would label us all as forever atheist, if we ever gave a damn in the first place.
Thank you, Drew.
What birthyear are you?
How are you alive still
@@allelss-oh8sj The youngest of the silent generation aren't even 80 years old yet. There are millions of them just in the US.
@@VulcanLogic the average life expectancy is 73. It's a shocker
@@allelss-oh8sj And yet, we still have centenarians from the Greatest generation. You should probably look at some actuarial tables, so that common facts won't be as shocking to you.
I’m gen z and I’m Catholic and proud ✝️
Edit: you people are just proving atheists point. Just stop fighting and learn to respect other’s beliefs.
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same bro, God bless!
Respect. I’m Muslim and proud! Sad to see religion dying in a lot of the world. It’s as if people are proud about it.
that 28% spike in sweden is most definitely due to the demographic change due to the massive muslim migration!
Muslim immigration is not as massive as you think and mostly women
@@Hasanaljadid mostly fighting age men I think you mean
@@foreigntakeoverit's okay being a clown but the numbers don't lie. Christianity is on a huge decline. Sooo....
@@Hasanaljadid Not massive? Oh we forgot that they are bout 15% of Sweden huh?
@@haksrax39Less then 8%
Curious as to whether population changes have affected this. In my limited experience, religious people tend to have more kids, and the children of religious parents are probably more likely to be religious themselves. That population trend, plus immigration, may be behind many of the surprising shifts.
As an ex muslim gen Z: thank's I hate it
How did your family react to you leaving islam?
Sameeeee
@@Kami84 Only close family know, they're pretty liberal so they don't care. I'm very lucky, ik alot who aren't.
Most of these kids probably only say they're muslim because they're scared of how their families will react if they knew they aren't.
I’m a Muslim, I love my religion
I think too often that folks assume that Gen Z kids are leaving religion, instead of never having any to start with. I'm GenX with a Gen Z kid that has never really been exposed to religion. Being atheist since about 15, we taught our kid that other people believe in the supernatural but we do not. I think much like Santa Claus, if you waited until they were teens to tell them Santa existed, it would be a hard sell.
Im a christian and we are the generation with the worst mental health. Correlation between decreased religious belief?
we are also the generation with the most acceptance of mental health and in a time where we understand it a lot more than previously, so it is likely that there isn't more problems than before, but people are just more comfortable actually getting diagnosed and talking about it.
but even if there are more mental health problems in this generation, it is absolutely not because of decreasing religion.
@@gwit4051agree. We r just more aware now.
No, because counties like Norway and The Netherlands report high standards of happiness and mental health despite having ridiculously low levels of religiosity.
If anything mental health often correlates with increased reliance of religious beliefs
correlation between more lack of social policies, mass homelessness, unable to buy a basic damn house because of neo-liberal economy, and no lack of exploitation of people in general by so called "religious leaders"?
7:20 Indian Gen Z is becoming religious because of the rise of the Hindutva wave after the 2014 elections.
The government is promoting Hindu values and culture more. Especially the Ayodhya conflict of whether a Temple or a Mosque should be built in Ayodhya, made many people choose sides. The radicalization has been at an all time high.
They have even started, claiming that Hinduism welcomes Atheists etc etc.
It's more about identity now, than just following your religion
It's really difficult to say wheather Indian gen z are being religious hindus or political hindus. Hindutva is like wolf is sheep's clothing.
Like we saw hindus calling Shankaracharyas, Congress supporters and anti hindus just because they were not in favour of BJP's decisions.
@@GloomyGluehinduism is not exist
@@Kashyap_Trivedi2 "not exist" is not a suitable word
@@GloomyGlue nonsense Britisher is owner of India and owner of people of India and I'm from UK and for me not exist.
@@Kashyap_Trivedi2 okay whatever. Can't argue about this ideology
Hi! I have a master in Geopolitics and I think the more Hindu in India must be related to the surge of ethno-religious nationalism in India. Basically, the new government wants the country to be a Hindu state... they don't want other religions in their country, specifically Islam. Not so long ago, a Mosque was taken down to be replaced by a temple. (cheers from Spain)
It's far lower. Many people no longer believe in religion, but don't state it publicly because the risk of doing so is too high. It ruins relationships, destroys families, and ostracizes them from communities.
As a muslim genz, i reached a point in my life at age of 13 to 15 when I started to question my religion and started to doubt it, I considered myself non-religious during that time, but when I went to ask questions about Islam (questions are encouraged in Islam) i started to go to a sheikh and ask him about why islam, and why should I believe its the truth, he explained alot of things to me, and the wisdom behind everything, also explained the scientific miracles of the quran and hadiths that ppl to this day reject even tho it's so clear, anyway I started researching on the history of islam and the golden age of islam, when sharia was implemented, real sharia, not iran's, I found out the women have a higher rank than men, literally by hadiths from the prophet saying that paradise is at the feet of the mother or them being most worthy of comapnainship, and also the rights of women such as working, in hanafi school, women can even be judges, and women during the golden age of islam took leading roles, like Razia who was the sultana of delhi, or Fatima al-Fihri who was one of the best in maths, or Sutayta al-Mahamili in medicine, or Queen Amina of Zaria, or the first university being built in the world is by a muslim woman in morrocco, or Nusaybah bint Ka'ab
who was the first Islamic female warrior who defended the prophet (PBUH) during the Uhud war, and literally being called the "prophet's shield". and so on!
ofc without mentioning the notable discoveries that were made by Muslims that the West now denies, I got closer to god and my religion, started reading the Quran, and quit music and doing prohibited stuff as much as I could.
also what intrigued me is the fairness in Islam between men and women, how Islam recognizes the roles of a man and a woman, and how men should stick to their masculine nature and provide for women and make sure they have everything they need, and how the woman's main role is to raise good Muslim children in which Islam recognizes as the hardest thing and the most notable thing that men and women can do, and how fair the divorce laws in Islam in which a woman can divorce her abusive husband, abusing a spouse, in general, is completely forbidden for both men and women in Islam, and hitting included is one of the worst things that a man or a woman can do to the other, and before mentioning the verse, go read the tafsir about that verse and the rulings behind it, remember! stop listening to apostate prophet or David wood, they lose the debates with Muslims scholars all the time
those r some points that the Western media and propaganda never share about Muslims, and how women in fact empowered in Islam and not oppressed, or how fair the religion is leading to peace, etc. (ik its too long sorry)
Islam did have a bit better equality at that time far in the past, but by modern standards it's just not acceptable at all. And if we take Islam as a whole, it has much worse track record than most other major religions. Not because is much worse than other religions, but because it hasn't been moderated by outside pressure.
It's all about how you interpret the text and what you pick. Islam also says woman's testimony is half that of man's.
Ultimately all religion kinda sucks, and is only moderated by either personal morality or wider society.
@@mukkaar
Yea actually about woman is half of a man, that's not the case at all, the context of the verse is about transactions and stuff like that, is much more male-oriented, so the man will have a much better memory and will remember better than a woman, because finance and transactions r a male-oriented thing, while for female-oriented things, a woman's testimony is enough, and it outweighs the testimony of a man.
And the verse mentioned the reason is that 2 women r needed so one remind the other, as like I said, most women r not interested in financial stuff.
And about the history of women in islam and like that, I have examples of women being empowered in islam in the golden age of islam, there is about 5k hadiths narrated by women, aisha (RA) was one of the best scholars, not female scholars, scholars in islam.
And ofc the women I mentioned.
Also, women have a right to inherit in islam, women have a right to work (it's not a requirement tho), women have the right to vote, and give opinions, and for example a man MUST take his wife's opinion in family stuff, women can choose their husband, women MUST seek knowledge and get an education, women can own property, buy property with her own money, and so on. So I think women have alot of rights in islam.
I actually wanna highlight a thing u said in which islam was abit better for women than before it came, women before islam were unalived when they r born, basically they thought that females bring dishonor to family, women were treated like an object and was inherited, islam made women independent human beings that r almost equal to men in civil rights.
And also when u mentioned that it depends on the interpretation of the religion to me, that's the reason why I brought examples from the golden age of the islam and the life of the prophet and so on, because that's when REAL islam was practised.
I wanna add an example of women involved in politics during the golden age of islam is when after the death of prophet (PBUH), problems arose between the muslims, and fitna arose between muslims, there was a battle called the battle of the camel in which Aisha (RA) was opposing ali ibn abu Talib (RA), and she went into a war with him.
And also I wanna add that during the wars that muslims went through during the life of the prophet (PBUH), it was normal for women to come along, they treated the wounded and provided water and food for the fighters, and also khadijah (RA) the first wife of the prophet(PBUH) being a very successful business woman in mekkah and no one condemned her for working, so women were working in business and as doctors and so on.
Idk about other religions, but ik what my religion says, and how important a woman's place in an Islamic society and how islam emphasizes the importance of a woman.
You should read Surah An Nisa verse 34. There are also many verses in hadith that says otherwise. @@lemonon850
Me too! I'm a born muslim and there's one time in my life where I question about Islam too, especially because of internet and social media I grew up with. And the fact that everyone around me was like just accepting Islam and tells you about how to pray how to read Quran how to fast etc. without giving us what it truly means to be a muslim. I was really close of getting turned into a 'woke' person but fortunately I came across youtube videos about Islam and then I started doing research since, and now I have gotten more faith Alhamdulillah. Even though I'm a muslim I never able to recite Quran/arabic and last year I finally able to learn just for a few months. It's not the best yet but at least I can read.
@@minjiu__u
Allahumabarik, I hope it gets easier for u to read the quran, and I hope everything goes smoothly and u stay steadfast, I too has problems with reading the quran because I wasn't taught how to read with tajweed and also the quran uses alot of arabic words that I am not familiar with even tho I am arab, but I started reading tafsirs and it was much easier to understand the quran
Basically, "non-religious" is the fastest growing religion in the world.
Are you suggesting non-religious is a religion?
@@jhunt5578 i think they had religion but rather doing in secularism and i think i agreed with her/him. increases of islam nowadays thank to influx of immigration however now we can see the violence lately happened accros the europe alarming of right-wing movement of islam.
I dont think that is true overall. Across the world I think it is Islam and certain forms of christianity.
@@jhunt5578According to religious people, it is
@@shrayesraman5192the thing is that non-religiousity is probably growing also in muslim countries, however considering how they deal with atheism, we cannot probably know.
Even in Italy which is still quite religious, I would say that only half of the people that are recognized as Catholics are in reality religious. Most of them do not practice the religion or identify as such. However the state will never update the statistics on religiosity because of tradition and ties to the Vatican. Imagine now how hard it is in the middle east, half of them could be atheist and we would have no way to know.
I am athiest from India hinduism is more of political movement than actual practice nowadays thats why its beccming popular.
Nope people are really learning there history and culture and traditions.
In Turkey when a baby born they automatically register them as Muslim if your parents are Muslim. You need to change it later. So, the numbers are off in here. But when they asked specifically you'll see that in many research they identify as either non Muslim or non religious.
The percentage in Sweden might not be big by actual number. If 4 people were believers and 4 more joined up, that's a 100% increase. But is four more in a country of millions significant? So I guess we'd have to see what percentage is it of.
Yep. That's why most studies do weighted averages, so that tiny countries with extreme changes don't throw off the overall results. This one didn't, so any "total averages" aren't very accurate.
Well the impact on Sweden is still huge because it changes culture of that country. Muslims deserve to be treated as humans anywhere but they got some whacky ideals in their religion.
damn guys, the hindu memes and bhagvatgita sigma male edits are working
Ya it worked but in a wrong direction. It has created a Abhramic hinduism or political hinduism. Spam religious slogans at random places, promote religion everywhere, show we are better. They just wanna know wheather ramayan or Mahabharat is history or sanatan is better than science or not. Ego on their religion when hinduism declares ego as the biggest enemy of us. They don't even know their own scriptures at all. It's like promoting a gem like a regular stone which is ment to hurt anyone, whereas it's made to improve everyone
Can't believe people still unironically have this pfp
@@TurdBoi666 meh it looks cool as opposed to not have one at all
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The rise in hinduism in India can mostly be attributed to Hinduism not promoting "serve this god or you'll go to hell for eternity" belief, which is the prevalent one in Abrahamic religions. It's instead "you'll be calculated by good and bad deeds, do more good and you'll have an afterlife for sometime in a good place, do bad deed and it'll be some punishment in a bad place, once you're done with this you'll be reborn back on earth". There's why there's a sect of Hinduism that can reject god and still believe in this, since this is very easy to follow thing and it's autonomous(does not require god to exist). It gives a clear solution to "believe in god because the consequences are disastrous" belief, which I'm told many are still considering. That is the reason why you see "rise in hinduism" while you also see "less belief in god".
I think he is drawing wrong conclusion when he says Islam is more popular in gen Z. The greater percentage might be due to greater demographic percentage of Muslims in gen Z i.e. average age of Muslims is lower than Christians due to difference in population growth rate.
I'm a gen z atheist from Nigeria. Everyone I meet in my life is religious. It's only through the internet that I find other Nigerian atheists. I don't see religion ever not being such a huge part of my country.
Do you think some of the people you meet in your life are just pretending to be religious?
@@issac2939 No. Life is hard for them and so the belief in a god who will serve them something better than their current lives gives a lot of them comfort. They're very strong about their faith.
It really concerns me that Gen Z is still highly religious. We may not have the same problems with Christianity, but the harm of religion is still far from gone.
For me it is the Opposite where I prefer the greater proportion of Religion among the youth.
@@itsve8632 Well it would be nice to have people grow out of religion, but it would be better if they never had it to begin with.
Bro forgot about mao and stalin
@@Gilded_07bro forgot that atheism is the easiest religion to troll.
Islam is the new issue. And islam is way more conservative and fucked up.
The only consistent thing is change 😉
Interesting data; thanks for unpacking it for us!
20 years ago most Muslim Imams and preachers were merely educated superstitious people but there's been a shift recently. There's now a growing number of university educated charismatic preachers and scholars mostly coming out of western Europe preaching through the internet. Boomers are less religious because they had your stereotypical imams with no ability of critical thinking or making logical argument so they listened to them less. But now there are people on the internet with multiple post grad degree making logical arguments with sources and references. It is also prompting local mosques to seek educated imams to attract people. Its funny how Gen Z becoming more interested in Islam had to do with Muslims getting educated.
yes i agree,
As a data scientist, it hurts me seeing change over time be represented by colored bars instead of by a line rising/lowering or by an animation.
Remember folks, linear distance is your friend. Show my how far up or down the y axis the line goes.
It's interesting to see Gen Z growth in the Catholic cohort. I went to a politically conservative college that wasn't strictly Christian, but the student population widely was. I noticed that many Protestant students converted to Catholicism, and many times it was because Catholics have an intelligible structure to their practice. At the time (10+ years ago), the zeitgeist of the protestant youth was a searching for something more "solid" than the sort of non-hierarchical, division prone method of American protestants. I wonder if that is what is happening here.
Ngl, the Catholics do make a compelling case when they have Priests train 10 years before being sent out so they can truly know wtf they are talking about compared to pastor Bob who read the Bible 2 years ago and is now preaching.
We're doomed...
peut-être
mais qui sait , ça se trouve leur idéologie est trop bancale pour tenir assez longtemps
How?
6:30
Turkey also has HUGE number of migrants from the middle east.
So that also plays a role.