As always, if you have any questions feel free to ask me here 😄The concepts explained in this video most of the supports don't think about them and just autopilot the lane. If you are able to grasp these 3 and together with matchup understanding and wave management you will notice a big improvement in your gameplay. Feel free to ask me more basic questions if you don't fully understand a concept! 🙏Have a great day!
this is very helpful, thank you! it does not feel good to do nothing in lane, especially as a melee supp. still learning what makes good roams and jg/supp plays, this is really easy to understand!
My biggest problem with playing in bushes is skillshots because I can’t dodge well and get chunked especially against ezreal Q that has a weird hitbox I think I will try to use the outer and inner parts more though thanks for the videos 😄
Thank you for watching and the comment! I should have included that not all lanes are played in the bushes, but when you are able to get bush control most of the times supports drop it randomly and are not consistent with this play. Against Ezreal or BC (with hook) playing inside the wave is ok, in this case you want to go Ward Trinket and not sweeper. In losing positions you have to concede control. This 3 examples are mostly on how to abuse in lane and get advantage, also if enemy suppport is not playing in the bush and you can identify this, you can punish way more. Hope this helped a bit and good luck!
@CoachKarakal this is one of the reasons I struggled to learn the role (especially because I only played support since the very beginning). Most guides focus on how to get lead and run with it. While there are less resources on how to play from behind or when you need to concede early to win later. But funny thing is that I never even thought about bushes this deep and I am master 😅😅 maybe I am able to hit GM then 😅
@@mcELINER I will post more in depth guides about support in other situations, its a good point how to play from behind, I will take note and look to make one this month for sure. Yesterday I played melee vs range and on my discord server I posted how to play it, sadly I cant show every case in 1 video😅. Feel free to add me on discord and I can help you out reaching GM
@CoachKarakal I've added and messaged you. I feel like the biggest issue about support is that the fundamentals are really vague compared to other roles and it is hard to distinguish them on your own without prior moba experience. Same way as it is hard to prioritise which fundamentals are more imortant when you have to choose 😅
Great video! Very informative. I have one question, in the example where you said how to play the bush correctly (leona vs lux matchup) how would you play as lux (or even another melee engage champ) to minimise damage? sometimes I'm in the losing side of the matchup where the enemy support has bush control, how can I play effectively in that position? Thank you.
Leona vs Nami you mean? I have actually a video coming out next week or this week maybe on "How to play from behind in botlane" 😄 To answer you now with a bit of info, you give bush control and depending on your matchup (if you are melee or range vs melee or range) you have options depending on your wave state, also or they permapush you or you will gain control with the wave bounceback and here also the jungler pays a big role in the game!
Lo de tener las mejores camisetas del mundo GOD. Gracias por el video ya se lo pasé a Sandra para que mejore, porque jugar con ella en línea es duro, gracias por tanto
I don’t understand how your point on leaving the bush early makes no sense? Like in that clip of Lux vs Braum, a reason I would ditch after that harass is to avoid counter-engage from the enemy support, getting behind minion waves to avoid an engage.
Yes and thats what Im trying to explain, Lux getting out of the bush does nothing, just shows and doesn't put pressure on enemy botlane, she should actually move to the furthest bush in this case because Braum has no Q and she has range advantage. She can't get engaged on and can bully more with that trinket she placed. Also they have lvl2 secured way before enemy bot, like explained in point2
I am probably thinking “I say this because I had a very bad gypsy attack… they stole my wife, plow… and they touch my horse in a very bad way… he got very depressed.”
in the low low elo of gold and below, sitting in the bush as support gets you mass pinged by your adc and them telling everyone to report you afk. This is why low elo supports dont sit in the bush and control it.
I got flamed from unranked to master by silver adc, ignore and play your game. I also think in lane they usually dont ping that much if you play it well, gl tho!
@@CoachKarakal I think it would help a lot of support mains if they played solo lanes from time to time just so they learn wave Management and what the ADC is trying to accomplish
As always, if you have any questions feel free to ask me here 😄The concepts explained in this video most of the supports don't think about them and just autopilot the lane. If you are able to grasp these 3 and together with matchup understanding and wave management you will notice a big improvement in your gameplay. Feel free to ask me more basic questions if you don't fully understand a concept! 🙏Have a great day!
this is very helpful, thank you! it does not feel good to do nothing in lane, especially as a melee supp. still learning what makes good roams and jg/supp plays, this is really easy to understand!
@@eesamees im glad it helps! I recommend you the Roaming video and soon I will get more supp fundamentals around jungle + supp and tracking💪🏻
Helpful video, you explain concepts well. Would be great to see some ADC content too
Good video, thank you Coach K
Thank you for videos like this. I'm support main in Brazil, actually master and your channel helps a lot. Great content!
Thank you! Yes, I also mention a lot of details for higher elo players eventhough you guys are the minority. I will keep it up!
My biggest problem with playing in bushes is skillshots because I can’t dodge well and get chunked especially against ezreal Q that has a weird hitbox I think
I will try to use the outer and inner parts more though thanks for the videos 😄
Thank you for watching and the comment! I should have included that not all lanes are played in the bushes, but when you are able to get bush control most of the times supports drop it randomly and are not consistent with this play. Against Ezreal or BC (with hook) playing inside the wave is ok, in this case you want to go Ward Trinket and not sweeper. In losing positions you have to concede control. This 3 examples are mostly on how to abuse in lane and get advantage, also if enemy suppport is not playing in the bush and you can identify this, you can punish way more. Hope this helped a bit and good luck!
@CoachKarakal this is one of the reasons I struggled to learn the role (especially because I only played support since the very beginning). Most guides focus on how to get lead and run with it. While there are less resources on how to play from behind or when you need to concede early to win later. But funny thing is that I never even thought about bushes this deep and I am master 😅😅 maybe I am able to hit GM then 😅
@@mcELINER I will post more in depth guides about support in other situations, its a good point how to play from behind, I will take note and look to make one this month for sure. Yesterday I played melee vs range and on my discord server I posted how to play it, sadly I cant show every case in 1 video😅. Feel free to add me on discord and I can help you out reaching GM
@CoachKarakal I've added and messaged you. I feel like the biggest issue about support is that the fundamentals are really vague compared to other roles and it is hard to distinguish them on your own without prior moba experience. Same way as it is hard to prioritise which fundamentals are more imortant when you have to choose 😅
Thank you for your work. Every day I look forward to the next video to improve. Thanks again keep doing what you're doing :)
Thank you! I will keep posting often!
Great video! Very informative. I have one question, in the example where you said how to play the bush correctly (leona vs lux matchup) how would you play as lux (or even another melee engage champ) to minimise damage? sometimes I'm in the losing side of the matchup where the enemy support has bush control, how can I play effectively in that position? Thank you.
Leona vs Nami you mean? I have actually a video coming out next week or this week maybe on "How to play from behind in botlane" 😄 To answer you now with a bit of info, you give bush control and depending on your matchup (if you are melee or range vs melee or range) you have options depending on your wave state, also or they permapush you or you will gain control with the wave bounceback and here also the jungler pays a big role in the game!
Comment for the algorithm, keep it up Coach!
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Lo de tener las mejores camisetas del mundo GOD. Gracias por el video ya se lo pasé a Sandra para que mejore, porque jugar con ella en línea es duro, gracias por tanto
Una vez de MAD, siempre de MAD 🤩
I don’t understand how your point on leaving the bush early makes no sense? Like in that clip of Lux vs Braum, a reason I would ditch after that harass is to avoid counter-engage from the enemy support, getting behind minion waves to avoid an engage.
Yes and thats what Im trying to explain, Lux getting out of the bush does nothing, just shows and doesn't put pressure on enemy botlane, she should actually move to the furthest bush in this case because Braum has no Q and she has range advantage. She can't get engaged on and can bully more with that trinket she placed. Also they have lvl2 secured way before enemy bot, like explained in point2
If you play support and are interested add me on discord and i can help you out! 😄
Good video!
good content keep it going :)
Thank you humpi! 😄
I am probably thinking “I say this because I had a very bad gypsy attack… they stole my wife, plow… and they touch my horse in a very bad way… he got very depressed.”
in the low low elo of gold and below, sitting in the bush as support gets you mass pinged by your adc and them telling everyone to report you afk. This is why low elo supports dont sit in the bush and control it.
I got flamed from unranked to master by silver adc, ignore and play your game. I also think in lane they usually dont ping that much if you play it well, gl tho!
Just play the game bro fuck what they think
Is this true?? I'm an ADC main (emerald) and I'm mentally screaming at my support for not taking the brush.....
@@Elimbi1 if your support is confident on what he is doing, the adc will feel way more comfortable playing the lane, thats how i feel 😄
@@CoachKarakal I think it would help a lot of support mains if they played solo lanes from time to time just so they learn wave Management and what the ADC is trying to accomplish
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