Margo Thatcher -I don’t think he is any more “evil” than any career politician. The sociopaths that run the government are way more evil than Manson ever tried to be. Manson was nothing more than a result of the institutions and juvenile prisons systems he grew up in. That and having a pretty crummy upbringing from his so-called mother. He definitely was a “perfect storm” of his time. He had filled his head with all the necessary philosophies to control weak minded or emotionally damaged young people. It was the perfect time in American history and there were plenty of “throw-away” and run away teenagers and young adults that were all part of the “hippy” movement. They were all leaving home to travel to the west coast on some kind of quest to find themselves. They were easy pickins for a seasoned con-artist and master manipulator like Manson. He knew exactly why they ran away and what their problems must have been. Had the same crimes happened in modern day Manson would never had gotten convicted or if he did his sentence wouldn’t be that long. He never should’ve been convicted in the 60’s in the first place but the “powers to be” wanted an end to the “peace&love” war-protestors generation and making hippies look like taking too much acid and psychedelics will result in middle American white kids going loco and murdering innocent people in the dead night. Manson was nothing but a “patsy”. He was set up on a national scale. He wasn’t evil at all.
It's hard to hear about childhoods like Charles Manson's was. For any of you who have or has a similar childhood, know that you are appreciated for doing what is socially correct.
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Charles Manson was a psychotic since childhood. His Mother sold him to a barmaid at 6 months old for a pitcher of alcohol! He endured being locked in a closet for days at a time. When not in a closet he had to watch his Mother turning tricks for food, in the same bed. His Mother was obviously unfit & no other family members would take on the role of caretakers for very long. He was first sent to a reformatory school at age 6 and was serverly sexuality abused for years. This man was horribly mentally ill and should have been in a mental institution for LIFE and studied. Clearly mentally ill people, who are not fit to stand trial are still constantly ordered to stand trial and sentenced to death or thrown into the jail system forever. It would reflect much better on us as a society to recognise, many, not all, who committed henile crimes are completely out of their minds and to study their upbringings and other circumstances. Yes, there are monsters amongst us.....yet we have a society that creates them. Treat your children well.
Blair Waldorf . I'm sure you deserve to be a Mother. It is a privilege. I'm lucky enough to have three healthy Sons. Yes, I wish these women and Men could have been caught before the destruction they wrought. I wish none of them were ever released. x
Nicole S thank you that is nice of you to say. You are blessed 💙 I thought i was going to be one but it was taken from me and I’ve been angry about it since it happened. Things like this make it worse she was blessed with a son and look at all the terrible things she did and let happen to him 😒😑 All i wanted in the world was my son and i didn’t get to have him but what can i say life isn’t fair 🤷🏻♀️
Lisa Payne....I was thinking the same thing ! He sounds so genuine and normal for a few seconds, & then you remember who he is & what he did ! Like many psychopaths and sociopaths though, he did have that certain charm & charisma of the con man type that could make him appear normal at times, especially if you didn't know the deep darkness underneath the "pleasant" surface. Ted Bundy was another example of this.
@John Dough Beware the charmer young John Dough. One clue about Manson, he learned at a young age not to trust anyone...that's a hallmark of the narcopath but it is a trait that you would do well to adopt. Approach everyone with a critical mind. If you don't, one day, that 1 in 10 among the population, will see you from a mile away and suck you right in. Not everyone is a user but you need to be on your guard for those who are. Wisdom and discernment.
They were quite different. Bundy was charming and he wanted short interractions with his victims and he killed them directly. Manson was more of a cult leader type. He influenced people by dominating, not by charm or persuasion.
Maybe because Bundy was a psychopath i.e. more cool, calm, collected and strategic, he planned according to his objective and in court, his objective was to not go to prison so he played the role and manipulated accordingly. He was more predictable. While Manson was probably a sociopath, also strategic and manipulative but more prone to impulse, wrecklessness, angry outbursts, driven emotionally, gets off on scaring people, enjoys being seen as evil...More unpredictable.
Silver Chopsticks Neglect is a form of abuse. It is true that abuse is not always a cause but there are very few serial killers/murderers that had a healthy home life. Some people should never have children. But there’s also no way to stop them. The world is a very sad place unfortunately.
Stephanie is awesome Child abuse will go on because CPS has too many of the wrong kind of people working there. I’m sure there are good ones but not enough
.... I have friend in some books that there is the suggestion of the fact his biological father was his grandfather on his mother's side so we all know the results of that
Most of the serial killers had terrible experiences, usually during childhood (sociopaths). While some were born with it (psychopaths). It only shows how important good parenting is.
Parenting matters. It's no excuse for what he did, but you can see how he became an angry young man and developed into a murderous cult leader. Total lack of stability and guidance as a youth and look what happened.
mike descoteaux Yeah, she is full of shit. Just another lame attempt at trying to get paroled. Seriously, all of them need to give up. They will leave prison in body bags.
mike descoteaux Exactly, she did just that. Just as Doris Tate, Sharon Tate’s mother stated it: “First they killed five people for nothing and then they went out the next night and did it again.”
I always wondered what would have happened had Terry Melcher signed him to a record deal.Some of the songs he wrote were worthy of airtime and quite possibly he might not have sent his people out hunting for him.I think the fascination with him was his ability to make people worship him.That and the fact that he did have musical talent,might have made him famous instead of infamous.
@Daniel Neal mark david chapman ????was he the the guy who use to room with john hinckely junior all summer for a few years as young impressionable boys .. obscure reference whatever happened to him did he get arrested too
Terry Melcher's mother, Doris Day, urged her son to move from the Cielo Drive house as she felt evil closing in on the place. Lucky for Melcher Doris was adamant and forceful enough that he complied.
@Margo Thatcher Im English and my psycho mother locked me in a cupboard told lies about my behaviour. so my dad would give me a kicking...and this was Leicestershire...in the 50's
@@sleezy_chicken_biscuits5175 These freaks have to blame something...my crap childhood made me determined to help people....I now do charity work.....I detest the weakness of his followers.....you are youre own person you belong to nobody...
People who say manson never killed anyone hasn't read the book. He was charged with murders of hinman and shorty Shea. He cut the ears of hinman and shot shorty Shea.
Executed for what crime? He didn’t kill anybody and he certainly didn’t have mind control over them, Linda Kasabian proved that by choosing not to go up to the house that night which proves free will. And everyone of them testified that they were not instructed to kill anyone by Manson so what should he be executed for? Tex Watson gave the girls their instructions and did most of the killing so in fact they should be called the Watson murders! And it was never proven that he killed shorty and bobby killed hinman so......
@@OlsenJustin Charlie Manson got a raw deal????? Well, that's a first.... I think Sharon Tate and the LaBianco's and all those other poor people were a lot worse of then he was
Anyone who sees Charles Manson without accounting for the horrors he experienced as a little boy has no more humanity than any psychopath. Instead of empathy from a responsible juvenile criminal justice system, his pathology was compounded at a facility where he was sexually and psychologically abused. We know now that the cycle of abuse must be disrupted in order to prevent victims from becoming perpetrators. What a terrible lesson we fail to learn from when we treat minors as criminals.
This is so horribly sad and scary. This why I'm grateful for our bus ministry at our Christian church. Our buses bring in children from broken and abused homes, for free. Maybe we can't reach them all, but we can still teach them and let them know we love them and Jesus loves them. You never know the seeds you are planting into another person's life. Especially precious innocent children. Lord help us.
Lucia C Yeah, only to be abused by closeted “priests”? How kind of the church to do so..So, do you take these children in, or, leave them in limbo in a churches equivalent to a homeless shelter? Naivety, just as bad as ignorance!😉
Some of you satanic hand maidens are no better then the ones in the Manson family, at least they admit their evil, where as people like you just pretend not to be.
a horrible childhood is no excuse. There were children who survived the concentration camps who turned out to be decent and loving people. Charles Manson was a psychopath. His childhood just triggered it more. But it would have come out anyhow.
@Julia A Well...… a lot a people go through that, unfortunatly. They live their lives without creating a cult group around them and killing people. Was he a sociopath? for sure. Was he damaged in his childhood. Yes. But it's still, for me, very weird that some go off like crazy (like Manson), and some live a pretty normal, if damaged live. Whatever happens to you during childhood is never an accuse.
@@normadesmond6017 Yeah but it's not an excuse, people react differently to abuse and he's clearly a psychopath, but in a way i feel bad for people like him, cause it's not their fault for being abused and neglected. Also having a mental disorder that makes you incapable of feeling empathy for others. It's just sad if you think about it
@@sleezy_chicken_biscuits5175 If they would kill your child, or daughter or sister or husband, would you still feel sorry for these abused and neglected psychopaths?
@Julia A Yep, that's something Maggi Smith says in Downton Abbey the movie. But the fact that he was a full blown psychopath is indeed an explanation or the whole disaster, yes.
Concord LMFAOOO. To who? You? And the dumb ass bimbos back in the 60s? I’ve been studying this case for years now, I’m not impressed, nor am I intimidated. He comes off as a wimpy coward that always played a specific role for the media, once the cameras were rolling. Nothing special about him at all. 💯
Looking into the face of a precious adorable innocent helpless newborn baby such as Charles Manson, you would never ever think he would become the Charles Manson he was known for. Bless my heart he's gone. Whatever he did and did not do, he won't do again.
Charlie Manson was neglected and horribly abused at a child. It is almost understandable why he turned out the way he did. The others have no excuse, they killed because they wanted to. I was a flower child back in the '60's, drugs, gurus, radical politics, free love, was everywhere. But even at 15 or 16 no one would ever have convinced me to do harm to anyone for any reason ever! They have no one but themselves to blame, they should have gotten the death penalty!
You know I remember exactly the fact that everyone wanted to put the prison authorities in prison because they committed the worst crime of all in knowing that Charles Manson would do what he told them he would do and they still let him out. He begged them to stay in prison and told them that he could not deal with the outside and that he would commit heinous crimes if let out. Authorities and parole personnel, knowing his prison life career, let him out. We were so angry at prison authorities almost moreso than we were at Manson because Manson was honest about it, telling them he was crazy and was not in control of his actions! Yes we blamed the prison authorities as well. I'll never forget that. I had just turned 18 in 1969 and related was Sharon Tate. I felt so close to her for some reason and only lived within a few miles of LA . I was married and had just given birth to my son and the nightmares flooded me for about a year after that.
When your times up , its up ! They can't make you stay there if you served your time unless you keep catching charges so you can keep staying in lock up !
That's true, the CIA spent years and millions of dollars trying to do just that with hypnosis, LSD and other means and they never succeeded. I don't really buy that Manson story as a whole, something sounds very strange about it, I don't know what it is though.
not true. Do you even know what drugs can do to a person? If you are drinking and driving and you kill someone, were you that "kind" of person anyway. I don't think so.
Ya know hardly anyone talks about the real savage. Tex Watson. Those girls didn’t do shit in comparison to Tex. In fact when Charlie heard about the savagery Tex had wrought he was probably a little afraid to turn his back on that fucker.
He is not that scary to me. He seems to be all bark no bite. Not saying he wasn’t dangerous but even Sharon Tate mom said that he didn’t scare her. The ones who committed the murders are far more dangerous.
Professor Harvey yes but they all had the choice to go another way but they decided to go and murder innocent ppl when they really could have did something else. I could tell you to go jump off of a bridge but would you go do it. Would there be a time walking to that bridge that you will say hey this is insane. I understand the brain washing but to actually go out and murder 3 nights in a row without Charles Manson being there shows these ppl are much more heinous.
@@indiamitchell93 Without Charles Manson they wouldnt have done it. An instigator can be guilty of crimes they have influenced others to commit on their behalf. For example ISIS recruiter Karen Aizha Hamidon faced Rebellion Charges for recruiting suicide bombers who would literally jump off a bridge if told to do so. In the context of inciting terrorism Charles Manson would fit right in with those radical Islamic preacher types.
Professor Harvey yes that’s true. However, when you take a life you have to be willing to forfeit your own. They made that choice to follow a psychopath and now they have to pay for their crimes.
@@indiamitchell93 Your first comment claimed Manson wasn't dangerious, yet had he incited murder in the exact same attack under ISIS he would be labeled a terrorist and you wouldnt have a problem with him being held in guantanamo bay on terrorist charges.
Lots of CEO's and Managers wish would have the sympathy and natural leadership this man had. Never segregate and discriminate anyone who grows up in DYSFUNCTIONAL FAMILY.
Always smile / grin on his face....think this all a game ....let me tell you this Manson!! You never smile no more...worse got to come for you later.....good day!!!!
Its crazy to think, but Remember Charles never physically killed anyone. He talked ppl into doing what was already inside them. He is still an evil man & manipulator... it's just crazy to me that he never killed anyone he could get ppl to do it for him.
What I can't understand is that people like Charles Manson and Ted Bundy attract young women like flies while nice guys have trouble finding a date for Friday night.
@Richard Kennedy True. Some guy around here was offering a course titled, "How to act like a jerk and get more dates". I didn't take the course. Its not my nature.
Cracks me up people who feared him. He literally found that entertaining and then decided to give the show he thought people wanted. Honestly the fact that he wasn't even eligible for parole but the actual murderers were is just crazy. I don't say that he's an innocent man but the justice system really just went off the rails there. It should actually scare people that you could be locked up like that and you weren't the one yielding the knife and you weren't even there.
For an indepth study of Charles Manson's psyche I would suggest you take a look at his astrological natal chart, particularly the very close mars conjunct neptune (dreams and fantasies of violence) and with all the scorpionic influence the ruthlessness to turn those fantasies into reality.
Society bears responsibility for every child that is harmed. Society is full of cold callous people who allow suffering in the child. A cold heartless world breeds resentment. We are all failures.
So his mom was a teenager, so was I and a lot of other young mothers. True, her uncle was a bad influence on her and Charles. But alot of kids nowadays are being raised by their grandparents but they're not monsters. By all accounts, his family was good God fearing ( yet stern ) people. His maternal aunt, Glenda was 9 when Charles was 5 and the girl was TERRIFIED of him! He was a devil from day one! His mom yes, made bad choices but she just couldn't cope with that nasty little monster..
Marcia Hooley Didn't you listen you idiot, he said she taught him that everything she said was a lie His single mother nut job created this monster like so many horrible women who dragged their kids up without love
Marcia Hooley - why would you make such assumptions when you know nothing of the man?? He was f'ing abandoned by his mother and she sent him to reform school where he was constantly beaten and RAPED!!!!!! Evil my ASS! Why don't you read about child development??? And all of these clips are taken way out of context. So SICK of people judging what they don't know
Theres an urban legend in my town his family was actually from around there *edit* i just googled and omg. His mother was from the area and the grandparents house where he visited/lived occasionally is somewhere i have driven past frequently and now i am shooketh. Not sure if the house looks the same but i have traveled the street where it is many times on the way to the dentist. Cant believe the gossip is true. The town has obviously pushed this so far down that most of us have no idea of his roots except the older generations.
I still do not condone what he did he was still in on killing those people. How can a person just up and do that especially killing a woman who is pregnant. He was crazy so is his followers also.
@Julia A That is true. If you're interested, an old schoolmate of mine wrote a fascinating book about him. Author is Jeff Guinn. Has had two best sellers. You might want to check it out.
@Julia A Cool. Not sure if you have read "Helter Skelter" by Vincent Bugliosi but it is a must for anyone interested in the Manson murders. It is a thick book but I read it in 3 days. Could not put it down. Cheers...
If you can't raise a child, you must not be pregnant! All the bad things charles manson committed convinces him not guilty. It is his mother who is to blame for it all. His mother has really ruined his life! Today he is mentally ill. Really sorry for his wasted life I hope his mother sleeping badly in the grave.
Agree with you that not all be killer after a bad childhoods. He was obviously very weak as a human being. Such people must be addressed in Psychiatry. And removed from society. They can be dangerous. his mother is part guilty. I'm not protective of charlie, absolutely not. I hope all killers go to hell.
Choko Girl25 You are so right. Too many undesirables having kids and society pay the price. Very few people make ideal parents. If only society can find a way to choose who can become parents. Raising a child is the most important thing in the world and yet every Tom, dickie and Harriet can pop out kids no matter how unsuitable they are. It's a shot in the dark though.
Choko Girl25 , When Mason's mother conceived there wasn't and birth control other than condoms and to pull out. Abortions were illegal and not available till 1973 . Manson was one of many abused mentally and physically that were born unwanted.
Imagine if he was set up for adoption instead of living with his family. I wonder what kind of person he would become. Would he become the Charles Manson we all know today or just some everyday normal human being?
You know its not often that I am cruel but now I will be. I don't give a damn about his childhood. I had a horrible one and I didn't slaughter innocent people . He had a bad childhood BOO HOO! Who cares! He had all of Los Angeles in extreme terror! I was seven and being a little black girl I thought he would come after me & my family I grew up in L.A. My Stepfather had his weapons at the ready I remember all of this. Who cares! I sure don't that beast may he burn in Hell which is where I'm sure he's at.
This was 50 yrs ago this happened they are doing a movie called Once Upon A Time In Hollywood and its about the Manson murders Margot Robbie will play Sharon Tate and Brad Pitt and Leo DiCaprio will also be in it. I want to see this! Debra Tate who lost her sister Sharon Tate said that it was fine for Margot Robbie to play her sister Sharon. I want to see how they do this. The director is the same director who did Pulp Fiction. From Dusk Till Dawn. I can't wait for this movie and I have been interested in crime and Manson Murders. Sharon Tate was beautiful and she was only 26 when she died. Debra Tate will keep seeking justice for the victims of August 9 1969! It would be 50 years ago this happened. Charles Manson killed the 1960s and then in 2017 Charles Manson died. He is dead and now dancing with the Devil along with so many other sickos who hated society like the Columbine Killers Eric Harris & Dylan Klebold and they should make a movie about that Columbine. They killed 13 people and they did it on Hilter's Birthday which is creepy. So many more people who followed manson are still looking for answers about War that will come soon. So many weak minded people followed Charlie they would die for Charlie but Charles Manson didn't give a shit about his followers. They were just lost confused weak minded people who got themselves into this whole world of War between whites and blacks and Helter Skelter when it would start and they would be at the bottom pit. Everything out of Charlies Manson's mind is all jibberish and stupid. I am glad that asshole is dead and probably licking the devil's ass.
I am not sticking up for Manson, but wasn't he raped in Boystown right off the bat? That's why he "only lasted four days," and then ran away. Who wouldn't? I think the judge knew it, too. People who worked there knew it. He was in the same Boystown affiliated with the Franklin Cover-up, wasn't he? And Boystowns and girls homes LL over not just America but in Europe we're traumatizing kids which is looking more and more like a part of the CIA/OSS mind control experiments.
I just watched an interview with his son, he has the cutest face with blue eyes and he is so nice and sweet, it's unbelievable to see the energy from him and Charles is completely 100% different... really amazing and intriguing..
Three persons whose names that should not be known to anyone but the police are 1) Joe “ the Animal “ Barboza ; 2) Charles Manson ; 3 ) Kenneth Alan McDuff ; Those are three predators who were born to ‘ ride the lightning ‘ .
I honestly don’t think he was presenting himself as he wishes in that interview. I think being isolated all those years in prison can make you so bored to the point of entertaining yourself to no end. He’s not use to human contact face to face.
Krenwinkle and VanHouten will never get out! Would YOU wanna be that person that signs off on their parole? I wouldnt. Susan Atkins was a liar. She sure as hell did stab Sharon, she tried to make it look like it was all Tex. Kasabian was,heartless. I have no pity or a need to consider their backgrounds. I dont give a shit how broken the home, murder is murder and if drugs and murder was on the roster that day they participated with pure joy. I followed this whole case when I was 13 yrs old and still I get chills thinking of how terrified the victims were, especially Sharon because she was so maternal! I believe she was one of if not THE most beautiful woman of her time. I wish I could alter history and make sure that didnt happen and 911 and Pearl Harbor. There aee just some events that no human body EVER should go through!
*My heart goes out to anyone who grows up in a severely dysfunctional family...*
Thank you for a simple kind comment. I guess I'm a goof for even reading the others. Bad habit😉
Margo Thatcher
Born evil? It takes a village blah blah.
Margo Thatcher
You're part of the village by the way. Just in case you forgot.
Margo Thatcher -I don’t think he is any more “evil” than any career politician. The sociopaths that run the government are way more evil than Manson ever tried to be. Manson was nothing more than a result of the institutions and juvenile prisons systems he grew up in. That and having a pretty crummy upbringing from his so-called mother. He definitely was a “perfect storm” of his time. He had filled his head with all the necessary philosophies to control weak minded or emotionally damaged young people. It was the perfect time in American history and there were plenty of “throw-away” and run away teenagers and young adults that were all part of the “hippy” movement. They were all leaving home to travel to the west coast on some kind of quest to find themselves. They were easy pickins for a seasoned con-artist and master manipulator like Manson. He knew exactly why they ran away and what their problems must have been.
Had the same crimes happened in modern day Manson would never had gotten convicted or if he did his sentence wouldn’t be that long. He never should’ve been convicted in the 60’s in the first place but the “powers to be” wanted an end to the “peace&love” war-protestors generation and making hippies look like taking too much acid and psychedelics will result in middle American white kids going loco and murdering innocent people in the dead night.
Manson was nothing but a “patsy”. He was set up on a national scale. He wasn’t evil at all.
DarlingExotica TheUniverse There’s a lot of us. Thank you.
It's hard to hear about childhoods like Charles Manson's was. For any of you who have or has a similar childhood, know that you are appreciated for doing what is socially correct.
Why no one stepped in & stopped his abuse
Too many times, appreciation isnt there and punishment is instead! Children need encouragement!
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Charles Manson was a psychotic since childhood.
His Mother sold him to a barmaid at 6 months old for a pitcher of alcohol!
He endured being locked in a closet for days at a time.
When not in a closet he had to watch his Mother turning tricks for food, in the same bed.
His Mother was obviously unfit & no other family members would take on the role of caretakers for very long.
He was first sent to a reformatory school at age 6 and was serverly sexuality abused for years.
This man was horribly mentally ill and should have been in a mental institution for LIFE and studied.
Clearly mentally ill people, who are not fit to stand trial are still constantly ordered to stand trial and sentenced to death or thrown into the jail system forever.
It would reflect much better on us as a society to recognise, many, not all, who committed henile crimes are completely out of their minds and to study their upbringings and other circumstances.
Yes, there are monsters amongst us.....yet we have a society that creates them.
Treat your children well.
Nicole S and people Like this get to be mothers and people who would love to be parents don’t get to be
Blair Waldorf . I'm sure you deserve to be a Mother. It is a privilege. I'm lucky enough to have three healthy Sons.
Yes, I wish these women and Men could have been caught before the destruction they wrought.
I wish none of them were ever released. x
Nicole S thank you that is nice of you to say. You are blessed 💙
I thought i was going to be one but it was taken from me and I’ve been angry about it since it happened.
Things like this make it worse she was blessed with a son and look at all the terrible things she did and let happen to him 😒😑
All i wanted in the world was my son and i didn’t get to have him but what can i say life isn’t fair 🤷🏻♀️
Nicole S I think he’s the devils child or the devil himself reincarnated.
Well said.
When he starts that interview and asks her “how you doin’?” Wow!! He sounded so genuine and I momentarily forgot the evil he caused.
Lisa Payne....I was thinking the same thing ! He sounds so genuine and normal for a few seconds, & then you remember who he is & what he did ! Like many psychopaths and sociopaths though, he did have that certain charm & charisma of the con man type that could make him appear normal at times, especially if you didn't know the deep darkness underneath the "pleasant" surface. Ted Bundy was another example of this.
Don't be fooled
Manson didn't cause evil. Evil was always here.
@John Dough Beware the charmer young John Dough. One clue about Manson, he learned at a young age not to trust anyone...that's a hallmark of the narcopath but it is a trait that you would do well to adopt. Approach everyone with a critical mind. If you don't, one day, that 1 in 10 among the population, will see you from a mile away and suck you right in. Not everyone is a user but you need to be on your guard for those who are. Wisdom and discernment.
You mean the mk ultra the government put upon him?
They had Manson all chained up but when Ted Bundy was in court in Colorado they let him roam free? Hmmmm
To be fair, Manson was absolutely fucking insane. Visibly insane. Whereas Bundy was a PHYSICALLY well put together man. That’s what I’d guess.
@@niilsaa Bundy was insane too...he just didn't show it until it was time for him to kill
Bundy was evil. Manson misunderstood.
They were quite different. Bundy was charming and he wanted short interractions with his victims and he killed them directly.
Manson was more of a cult leader type. He influenced people by dominating, not by charm or persuasion.
Maybe because Bundy was a psychopath i.e. more cool, calm, collected and strategic, he planned according to his objective and in court, his objective was to not go to prison so he played the role and manipulated accordingly. He was more predictable. While Manson was probably a sociopath, also strategic and manipulative but more prone to impulse, wrecklessness, angry outbursts, driven emotionally, gets off on scaring people, enjoys being seen as evil...More unpredictable.
Parents creates monster. Child abuse should be stopped look what happened to this man
Stephanie is awesome I'll abuse you!... in a loving way😎
@@JohnWayne-86ed not funny
Suzanne Studebaker Stop being jealous, I'm sure there's a special someone out there who'd love to abuse you!
Silver Chopsticks Neglect is a form of abuse. It is true that abuse is not always a cause but there are very few serial killers/murderers that had a healthy home life. Some people should never have children. But there’s also no way to stop them. The world is a very sad place unfortunately.
Stephanie is awesome Child abuse will go on because CPS has too many of the wrong kind of people working there. I’m sure there are good ones but not enough
I had a horrific childhood. I grew up good and fair with a sense of right and wrong..He's displayed physcotic tendencies as a small child
.... I have friend in some books that there is the suggestion of the fact his biological father was his grandfather on his mother's side so we all know the results of that
Some have experienced more specefic depths of the wrong surroundings and evils. It takes a toll on you.
Point being?
Reprobate
With a poor childhood you either grow up to run from evil or you turn to the fray and embrace the truth. That there is no such thing as evil
Sharon was breathtaking gorgeous. The fact that she married that colossal asswipe, and had such a horrific demise, is beyond unfair.
"Once Upon A Time In Hollywood"
Life ain't fair. A flea will ride any dog.
@Siobhan Fogarty damn straight
@Jimo They loved each other...what a cynical answer...
@Siobhan Fogarty ikr..
A child who's not embraced by the village will burn it down to feel it's warmth
Its warm
I grew up poor ..neither my father or mother work and both of them were violent ..but I never killed anyone
Sorry to hear thay Yvonne i hope youre in a better place now and no one is abusing you any more.
He didn’t kill anyone either
Good for you!
mariyaa111 what
Yvonne Bales Peace,Love& Light to you❇️
Most of the serial killers had terrible experiences, usually during childhood (sociopaths). While some were born with it (psychopaths). It only shows how important good parenting is.
Parenting matters. It's no excuse for what he did, but you can see how he became an angry young man and developed into a murderous cult leader. Total lack of stability and guidance as a youth and look what happened.
patricia krenwinkle says, they were so young". but, yet she went out and killed people the following night
mike descoteaux Yeah, she is full of shit. Just another lame attempt at trying to get paroled. Seriously, all of them need to give up. They will leave prison in body bags.
mike descoteaux she said that years later dipshit
mike descoteaux Exactly, she did just that. Just as Doris Tate, Sharon Tate’s mother stated it: “First they killed five people for nothing and then they went out the next night and did it again.”
But the second set of people were old and had one leg in the grave anyway. No loss there!
@@JesusRunsMyHouse You couldn't possibly sound more idiotic if you tried.
Charlie made me park illegally. Give him the ticket
lol right
Well said.
exactly
shadowdance4666 I’m sorry I can’t quit laughing 😂
Yes, ,, I only followed orders“, ,,devil made me do it“.
I always wondered what would have happened had Terry Melcher signed him to a record deal.Some of the songs he wrote were worthy of airtime and quite possibly he might not have sent his people out hunting for him.I think the fascination with him was his ability to make people worship him.That and the fact that he did have musical talent,might have made him famous instead of infamous.
joeblowthehot 😂
@Daniel Neal mark david chapman ????was he the the guy who use to room with john hinckely junior all summer for a few years as young impressionable boys .. obscure reference whatever happened to him did he get arrested too
john pothews I couldn’t remember his name. That’s Doris Day’s son. Thank you.
Terry Melcher's mother, Doris Day, urged her son to move from the Cielo Drive house as she felt evil closing in on the place. Lucky for Melcher Doris was adamant and forceful enough that he complied.
Watson would've still killed Frychouski, and the media hypes up
someone other than Manson
All the young people who lost their lives ,but not the souls , RIP 🖤
Intelligent, middle class young people were not sculpted into something else by Manson...you attract what's been inside of yourself all along!
For as evil that society claims Charlie to be... they sure couldn't leave him alone.
Yep. Americans are vultures with nothing to feed on.
My parents locked me in a closet too but I don't go around killing people and doing wrong
Anita, you are right. We all know wrong from right. We are all responsible for our own actions.
because you're not a scorpio
@Margo Thatcher Im English and my psycho mother locked me in a cupboard told lies about my behaviour. so my dad would give me a kicking...and this was Leicestershire...in the 50's
Well you're not a psychopath, he was so that's why he did what he did
@@sleezy_chicken_biscuits5175 These freaks have to blame something...my crap childhood made me determined to help people....I now do charity work.....I detest the weakness of his followers.....you are youre own person you belong to nobody...
Manson craved fame. He got it, but not the way he wanted.
Sick. All of them. Him and his followers.
if you want to see what evil looks like look into your own heart --and repent
Amen.
People who say manson never killed anyone hasn't read the book. He was charged with murders of hinman and shorty Shea. He cut the ears of hinman and shot shorty Shea.
You sure proof?
Executed for what crime? He didn’t kill anybody and he certainly didn’t have mind control over them, Linda Kasabian proved that by choosing not to go up to the house that night which proves free will. And everyone of them testified that they were not instructed to kill anyone by Manson so what should he be executed for? Tex Watson gave the girls their instructions and did most of the killing so in fact they should be called the Watson murders! And it was never proven that he killed shorty and bobby killed hinman so......
Abhilasha Rai he was protecting a girl from getting raped with one of them
yeah, but who wrote the book?
@@shannon6708 the procicuting attorney
He smoked cigarettes and lived most of his life in prison yet lived 83 years. If he was a free man, he would have been dead at an early age.
Yep, you could say we helped him live the safest, healthiest and longest life possible, and the word happy I don't think he knew what that word meant!
what does smoking cigarettes have to do with this…..?
He got a raw deal
@@OlsenJustin Charlie Manson got a raw deal????? Well, that's a first.... I think Sharon Tate and the LaBianco's and all those other poor people were a lot worse of then he was
what does him smoking have to do with? And why do you think that beeing free had would have been dead younger?????
Anyone who sees Charles Manson without accounting for the horrors he experienced as a little boy has no more humanity than any psychopath. Instead of empathy from a responsible juvenile criminal justice system, his pathology was compounded at a facility where he was sexually and psychologically abused. We know now that the cycle of abuse must be disrupted in order to prevent victims from becoming perpetrators. What a terrible lesson we fail to learn from when we treat minors as criminals.
Society will never take on the responsibility of the mentally ill. It’s way too inconvenient. Very sad.
You can watch an interview with Manson's son elsewhere on UA-cam. Seems like a nice man.
This is so horribly sad and scary. This why I'm grateful for our bus ministry at our Christian church. Our buses bring in children from broken and abused homes, for free. Maybe we can't reach them all, but we can still teach them and let them know we love them and Jesus loves them. You never know the seeds you are planting into another person's life. Especially precious innocent children.
Lord help us.
Lucia C Yeah, only to be abused by closeted “priests”? How kind of the church to do so..So, do you take these children in, or, leave them in limbo in a churches equivalent to a homeless shelter? Naivety, just as bad as ignorance!😉
Some of you satanic hand maidens are no better then the ones in the Manson family, at least they admit their evil, where as people like you just pretend not to be.
a horrible childhood is no excuse. There were children who survived the concentration camps who turned out to be decent and loving people. Charles Manson was a psychopath. His childhood just triggered it more. But it would have come out anyhow.
@Julia A Well...… a lot a people go through that, unfortunatly. They live their lives without creating a cult group around them and killing people. Was he a sociopath? for sure. Was he damaged in his childhood. Yes. But it's still, for me, very weird that some go off like crazy (like Manson), and some live a pretty normal, if damaged live. Whatever happens to you during childhood is never an accuse.
@@normadesmond6017 Yeah but it's not an excuse, people react differently to abuse and he's clearly a psychopath, but in a way i feel bad for people like him, cause it's not their fault for being abused and neglected. Also having a mental disorder that makes you incapable of feeling empathy for others. It's just sad if you think about it
@@sleezy_chicken_biscuits5175 If they would kill your child, or daughter or sister or husband, would you still feel sorry for these abused and neglected psychopaths?
@Julia A Yep, that's something Maggi Smith says in Downton Abbey the movie. But the fact that he was a full blown psychopath is indeed an explanation or the whole disaster, yes.
Being locked up in a camp vs an entire childhood
Hmmm..
@ 9:12.... are you shiting me!? He sat there and told them not to let him out! That is a cry for help! WTF!
oh my god the guy at 4:30 sounds jussst like steve carell!!
Loooool, you're right XD
There's absolutely nothing special about Manson.
because theirs nothing special about your perception
There's not theirs. Sorry your leader is dead though.
Christøpher Are you stupid he is super talented in the art of manipulation
Concord LMFAOOO. To who? You? And the dumb ass bimbos back in the 60s? I’ve been studying this case for years now, I’m not impressed, nor am I intimidated. He comes off as a wimpy coward that always played a specific role for the media, once the cameras were rolling.
Nothing special about him at all. 💯
Neneé Shakur - you have one dimensional thinking. That's too bad. Also, Jeff Guinn is an idiot- he's made so much money off misinformation.
No excuse for Chuck's bad behavior. Most of us don't pass on the injustices we went through as children.
Looking into the face of a precious adorable innocent helpless newborn baby such as Charles Manson, you would never ever think he would become the Charles Manson he was known for.
Bless my heart he's gone.
Whatever he did and did not do, he won't do again.
People thought Manson with a shaved head was freakish looking during the trail and after the trial. But today he would look like just another dude.
Charlie Manson was neglected and horribly abused at a child. It is almost understandable why he turned out the way he did. The others have no excuse, they killed because they wanted to. I was a flower child back in the '60's, drugs, gurus, radical politics, free love, was everywhere. But even at 15 or 16 no one would ever have convinced me to do harm to anyone for any reason ever! They have no one but themselves to blame, they should have gotten the death penalty!
Well....our parents do mold us😬
You know I remember exactly the fact that everyone wanted to put the prison authorities in prison because they committed the worst crime of all in knowing that Charles Manson would do what he told them he would do and they still let him out. He begged them to stay in prison and told them that he could not deal with the outside and that he would commit heinous crimes if let out. Authorities and parole personnel, knowing his prison life career, let him out. We were so angry at prison authorities almost moreso than we were at Manson because Manson was honest about it, telling them he was crazy and was not in control of his actions! Yes we blamed the prison authorities as well. I'll never forget that. I had just turned 18 in 1969 and related was Sharon Tate. I felt so close to her for some reason and only lived within a few miles of LA . I was married and had just given birth to my son and the nightmares flooded me for about a year after that.
When your times up , its up ! They can't make you stay there if you served your time unless you keep catching charges so you can keep staying in lock up !
Barbara Mowrey you resemble Sharon Tate some.
Someone can't tell you to kill unless you are that kind of person already 😣
That's true, the CIA spent years and millions of dollars trying to do just that with hypnosis, LSD and other means and they never succeeded. I don't really buy that Manson story as a whole, something sounds very strange about it, I don't know what it is though.
not true. Do you even know what drugs can do to a person? If you are drinking and driving and you kill someone, were you that "kind" of person anyway. I don't think so.
Manson was an MK-handler and a member of The Process church.
They chained him to his waste? O my God evil. He was not evil, he just never imagined how evil you all were.
Ya know hardly anyone talks about the real savage. Tex Watson. Those girls didn’t do shit in comparison to Tex. In fact when Charlie heard about the savagery Tex had wrought he was probably a little afraid to turn his back on that fucker.
Manson was an actor
robin williams would have played him well in a movie
Sometimes I wonder how much involvement Charlie really had in these murders.
there are so many people that are being selfish to their other people, humans are sometimes disgusting and stupid species
He is not that scary to me. He seems to be all bark no bite. Not saying he wasn’t dangerous but even Sharon Tate mom said that he didn’t scare her. The ones who committed the murders are far more dangerous.
His 'bark' had others do his biting for him. A wolf wears sheeps clothing to unscare its victims so they can get closer to them.
Professor Harvey yes but they all had the choice to go another way but they decided to go and murder innocent ppl when they really could have did something else. I could tell you to go jump off of a bridge but would you go do it. Would there be a time walking to that bridge that you will say hey this is insane. I understand the brain washing but to actually go out and murder 3 nights in a row without Charles Manson being there shows these ppl are much more heinous.
@@indiamitchell93 Without Charles Manson they wouldnt have done it. An instigator can be guilty of crimes they have influenced others to commit on their behalf. For example ISIS recruiter Karen Aizha Hamidon faced Rebellion Charges for recruiting suicide bombers who would literally jump off a bridge if told to do so. In the context of inciting terrorism Charles Manson would fit right in with those radical Islamic preacher types.
Professor Harvey yes that’s true. However, when you take a life you have to be willing to forfeit your own. They made that choice to follow a psychopath and now they have to pay for their crimes.
@@indiamitchell93 Your first comment claimed Manson wasn't dangerious, yet had he incited murder in the exact same attack under ISIS he would be labeled a terrorist and you wouldnt have a problem with him being held in guantanamo bay on terrorist charges.
I believe is was scared and hid behind the facade that everyone thought he was crazy and that protected him.
Lots of CEO's and Managers wish would have the sympathy and natural leadership this man had.
Never segregate and discriminate anyone who grows up in DYSFUNCTIONAL FAMILY.
Always smile / grin on his face....think this all a game ....let me tell you this Manson!! You never smile no more...worse got to come for you later.....good day!!!!
Its crazy to think, but Remember Charles never physically killed anyone. He talked ppl into doing what was already inside them. He is still an evil man & manipulator... it's just crazy to me that he never killed anyone he could get ppl to do it for him.
m.ua-cam.com/video/M4Et5Sm-RJc/v-deo.html
I'm not a hippie...I'm a slippy like 😈The Manson Family👿!!!
This had f all to do with the Beatles
You know it is messed up what he did, but you gotta kinda feel for the man. He didn’t get a good childhood..
What I can't understand is that people like Charles Manson and Ted Bundy attract young women like flies while nice guys have trouble finding a date for Friday night.
@Richard Kennedy True. Some guy around here was offering a course titled, "How to act like a jerk and get more dates". I didn't take the course. Its not my nature.
Trust me..girls will tire of the bad boys...and the nice guys will "finish" last...😉
Cracks me up people who feared him. He literally found that entertaining and then decided to give the show he thought people wanted. Honestly the fact that he wasn't even eligible for parole but the actual murderers were is just crazy. I don't say that he's an innocent man but the justice system really just went off the rails there. It should actually scare people that you could be locked up like that and you weren't the one yielding the knife and you weren't even there.
People have done far less to get locked up in China for life.
If you came here for video title skip to 4:50....you're welcome.
Thank you :-)
The stories I have heard and the things I've seen working in a federal prison for almost 20 years!!!
When you’re keeping up with the onision stuff and you end up on a Charles Manson video. Well done UA-cam, starting to recognise it are you?
Because your life is messed up you have to destroy other people how wrong can you be
For an indepth study of Charles Manson's psyche I would suggest you take a look at his astrological natal chart, particularly the very close mars conjunct neptune (dreams and fantasies of violence) and with all the scorpionic influence the ruthlessness to turn those fantasies into reality.
Society bears responsibility for every child that is harmed. Society is full of cold callous people who allow suffering in the child. A cold heartless world breeds resentment. We are all failures.
he's a literal time capsule stuck in the 60s...
Honestly a very fascinating human being.
The chaos u face externally is hard but it's the chaos that happens inside Ur brain that haunts u forever
So his mom was a teenager, so was I and a lot of other young mothers. True, her uncle was a bad influence on her and Charles. But alot of kids nowadays are being raised by their grandparents but they're not monsters. By all accounts, his family was good God fearing ( yet stern ) people. His maternal aunt, Glenda was 9 when Charles was 5 and the girl was TERRIFIED of him! He was a devil from day one! His mom yes, made bad choices but she just couldn't cope with that nasty little monster..
Marcia Hooley Didn't you listen you idiot, he said she taught him that everything she said was a lie
His single mother nut job created this monster like so many horrible women who dragged their kids up without love
Marcia Hooley - why would you make such assumptions when you know nothing of the man?? He was f'ing abandoned by his mother and she sent him to reform school where he was constantly beaten and RAPED!!!!!! Evil my ASS! Why don't you read about child development??? And all of these clips are taken way out of context. So SICK of people judging what they don't know
Marcia Hooley u are NOT born with evil. It is learned!!! U sound ignorant.
Exactly, I had my little boy at 18, I’m now 20. 😌
Marcia Hooley ...His mother was a prostitute and left him on the street to fend for himself.
Theres an urban legend in my town his family was actually from around there
*edit* i just googled and omg. His mother was from the area and the grandparents house where he visited/lived occasionally is somewhere i have driven past frequently and now i am shooketh. Not sure if the house looks the same but i have traveled the street where it is many times on the way to the dentist. Cant believe the gossip is true. The town has obviously pushed this so far down that most of us have no idea of his roots except the older generations.
You are nice looking
Crap.
He has eyes as dark as the devils
Half of the fault lies on the parents, the other half is his fault. They should all be locked away
Think his parents are probably long dead, and now Manson is gone too.
Why would he call him sir they showing him too much Respect smh
Damn he’s a true Scorpio
A horrible representation of a Scorpio.
Same birth date as Tonya Harding the skater.
He was born November 12, 1934. She was born November 12, 1970.
Something strange about November 12th.
Now they feel sorry for this freak and not a freak in a good way
Bruh he’s like robin Williams evil twin 😂😂
I don't understand the media fixation on C.M. I find him very boring.
This man reeks of evil the blood of a mother and her baby
I still do not condone what he did he was still in on killing those people. How can a person just up and do that especially killing a woman who is pregnant. He was crazy so is his followers also.
“But Charlie was such a sweet , cute little boy” - Grandma. 👀
Charlie's a liar none of this ever even happened he lived with his grandma when his mom went to jail Charlie's been conning people his whole life.
You are right. Charlie wouldn't have known the truth if it fell on his evil self. He was a deadbeat manipulator...and a good one.
The people in Woodbury, Tn say he grew up on short mountain.
@Julia A That is true. If you're interested, an old schoolmate of mine wrote a fascinating book about him. Author is Jeff Guinn. Has had two best sellers. You might want to check it out.
@Julia A Cool. Not sure if you have read "Helter Skelter" by Vincent Bugliosi but it is a must for anyone interested in the Manson murders. It is a thick book but I read it in 3 days. Could not put it down. Cheers...
If you can't raise a child, you must not be pregnant! All the bad things charles manson committed convinces him not guilty. It is his mother who is to blame for it all.
His mother has really ruined his life! Today he is mentally ill. Really sorry for his wasted life
I hope his mother sleeping badly in the grave.
he didn't murder a pregnant woman either
agree
Agree with you that not all be killer after a bad childhoods. He was obviously very weak as a human being. Such people must be addressed in Psychiatry. And removed from society. They can be dangerous. his mother is part guilty. I'm not protective of charlie, absolutely not. I hope all killers go to hell.
Choko Girl25 You are so right. Too many undesirables having kids and society pay the price. Very few people make ideal parents. If only society can find a way to choose who can become parents. Raising a child is the most important thing in the world and yet every Tom, dickie and Harriet can pop out kids no matter how unsuitable they are. It's a shot in the dark though.
Choko Girl25 , When Mason's mother conceived there wasn't and birth control other than condoms and to pull out. Abortions were illegal and not available till 1973 . Manson was one of many abused mentally and physically that were born unwanted.
Imagine if he was set up for adoption instead of living with his family. I wonder what kind of person he would become. Would he become the Charles Manson we all know today or just some everyday normal human being?
good question. hmm 😒
Why was Sharon Tate the focal point of that night when there were so many other people there?
Charlie is biting my finger
You know its not often that I am cruel but now I will be. I don't give a damn about his childhood. I had a horrible one and I didn't slaughter innocent people . He had a bad childhood BOO HOO! Who cares! He had all of Los Angeles in extreme terror! I was seven and being a little black girl I thought he would come after me & my family I grew up in L.A. My Stepfather had his weapons at the ready I remember all of this. Who cares! I sure don't that beast may he burn in Hell which is where I'm sure he's at.
his grandparents raised him in fairly normal way, he was not abused.
This was 50 yrs ago this happened they are doing a movie called Once Upon A Time In Hollywood and its about the Manson murders Margot Robbie will play Sharon Tate and Brad Pitt and Leo DiCaprio will also be in it. I want to see this! Debra Tate who lost her sister Sharon Tate said that it was fine for Margot Robbie to play her sister Sharon. I want to see how they do this. The director is the same director who did Pulp Fiction. From Dusk Till Dawn. I can't wait for this movie and I have been interested in crime and Manson Murders. Sharon Tate was beautiful and she was only 26 when she died. Debra Tate will keep seeking justice for the victims of August 9 1969! It would be 50 years ago this happened. Charles Manson killed the 1960s and then in 2017 Charles Manson died. He is dead and now dancing with the Devil along with so many other sickos who hated society like the Columbine Killers Eric Harris & Dylan Klebold and they should make a movie about that Columbine. They killed 13 people and they did it on Hilter's Birthday which is creepy. So many more people who followed manson are still looking for answers about War that will come soon. So many weak minded people followed Charlie they would die for Charlie but Charles Manson didn't give a shit about his followers. They were just lost confused weak minded people who got themselves into this whole world of War between whites and blacks and Helter Skelter when it would start and they would be at the bottom pit. Everything out of Charlies Manson's mind is all jibberish and stupid. I am glad that asshole is dead and probably licking the devil's ass.
I look at Charlie's childhood and laugh. Cry me a river Charlie cry me a river.
He was born, actually, on November 14, 1934. He was born as "No-Name Maddox."
I am not sticking up for Manson, but wasn't he raped in Boystown right off the bat? That's why he "only lasted four days," and then ran away. Who wouldn't?
I think the judge knew it, too. People who worked there knew it. He was in the same Boystown affiliated with the Franklin Cover-up, wasn't he? And Boystowns and girls homes LL over not just America but in Europe we're traumatizing kids which is looking more and more like a part of the CIA/OSS mind control experiments.
"Boystown" Sounds like a place Epstien and Trump would fund.
I just watched an interview with his son, he has the cutest face with blue eyes and he is so nice and sweet, it's unbelievable to see the energy from him and Charles is completely 100% different... really amazing and intriguing..
Three persons whose names that should not be known to anyone but the police are 1) Joe “ the Animal “ Barboza ; 2) Charles Manson ; 3 ) Kenneth Alan McDuff ; Those are three predators who were born to ‘ ride the lightning ‘ .
I honestly don’t think he was presenting himself as he wishes in that interview. I think being isolated all those years in prison can make you so bored to the point of entertaining yourself to no end. He’s not use to human contact face to face.
How did he not get the death penalty??? This is crazy
he did...then the laws changed in cali
he did...then the laws changed in cali
MK Ultra victim.
He was 5'2.
Where’s the other parts?
Where is part 2?
Manson was all talk and a COWARD to the core... Nothing badass or fearful bout a coward like this
his birthday is the same day as mine.
He wasn’t a Wannabe at anything 💯
Krenwinkle and VanHouten will never get out! Would YOU wanna be that person that signs off on their parole? I wouldnt. Susan Atkins was a liar. She sure as hell did stab Sharon, she tried to make it look like it was all Tex. Kasabian was,heartless. I have no pity or a need to consider their backgrounds. I dont give a shit how broken the home, murder is murder and if drugs and murder was on the roster that day they participated with pure joy. I followed this whole case when I was 13 yrs old and still I get chills thinking of how terrified the victims were, especially Sharon because she was so maternal! I believe she was one of if not THE most beautiful woman of her time. I wish I could alter history and make sure that didnt happen and 911 and Pearl Harbor. There aee just some events that no human body EVER should go through!
He was the most sick person what I ever seen
You call that abuse? LMAO I call it nothing.