Game Gear Games on Master System (and vice versa)

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  • Опубліковано 2 лип 2024
  • Sega’s Game Gear was basically a mini-Master System with a low-resolution screen. So, why can you play Master System games on a Game Gear, but not the other way around? Or can you? Join me in this video to go over a bunch of fun things about both consoles and highlight ways to play Game Gear on your TV!
    Here’s links to everything discussed (please assume all links are affiliate links):
    Master System to Game Gear Converter: retrorgb.link/ms2gg
    ROM Carts: www.retrorgb.com/romcarts.html
    Console 5: console5.com/store/
    Apocalypse’s Projects: www.arcade-projects.com/forum...
    More Game Gear Info: www.retrorgb.com/gamegear.html
    Stereo Game Gear Games: www.smspower.org/Development/...
    Master System Games on Game Gear Carts: www.smspower.org/Tags/SMS-GG
    Reverse-engineered Game Gear motherboard: www.retrorgb.com/interview-wi...
    Interview with GGTV creator Tim Worthington: www.retrorgb.com/interview-wi...
    Awesome screen mods: / machonachoproductions
    Power Base Mini: retrorgb.link/powerbasemini
    Power Base FM: retrorgb.link/powerbasefm
    FM Sound Info: www.retrorgb.com/fmaudio.html
    5x Scaling Explained: www.retrorgb.com/why-1080p-5x...
    Please consider supporting this channel via monthly support services, tips, or even just by using our affiliate links to purchase things you were already going to buy anyway, at no extra cost to you: www.retrorgb.com/support.html
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    All equipment used to shoot this video can be found here: www.amazon.com/shop/retrorgb
    00:00 Opening
    00:53 Console Overview
    02:24 SMS on GG
    05:41 GG on SMS
    08:22 Super Game Gear
    12:07 Mods and WARNING
    13:24 GG on TV
    15:10 Conclusion
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  • @RetroRGB
    @RetroRGB  2 роки тому +32

    I totally forgot to mention the Mega SG can play Game Gear games with a cartridge adapter, or with the jailbreak. I guess you can say that falls under the umbrella of "emulation", but if case anyone wasn't aware, here's the adapter: www.retrorgb.com/analogue-mega-sg-cartridge-adapters-now-available.html

    • @js.sunset
      @js.sunset 2 роки тому +2

      That's what I've been using and I love it!

    • @garethlewis7696
      @garethlewis7696 2 роки тому

      Haha I was just about to swoop in and point this out, only RRGB got there first… I think I’d disagree that it counts as emulation since it maps a GG core to the MSG’s FPGA does it not? Isn’t that the same as what the MiSTer does? Similarly I believe that a jailbroken Analogue NT mini has a Sega Genesis core (although I can’t get it to work), which runs Master System games natively, so in theory the ‘Super Game Gear’ prototype thingy’s code could be combined into a patched GG ROM to potentially allow it to run on that? 🤔

    • @RetroRGB
      @RetroRGB  2 роки тому +5

      FPGA is hardware emulation.

    • @garethlewis7696
      @garethlewis7696 2 роки тому

      @@RetroRGB ok yeah good point. Excellent video by the way 🤘🏽

    • @buxcrunner89
      @buxcrunner89 2 роки тому +3

      It would have been nice if this adapter worked on original hardware. The Retron equivalent also doesn't work on an actual Genesis.

  • @brianoconnell6459
    @brianoconnell6459 Рік тому +8

    I can confirm this, I used to work as a QA tester for Sega of America, the Game Gear titles were tested using a modified Master System console.

    • @RetroRGB
      @RetroRGB  Рік тому

      Oh wow, really??? Do you have any more information on this?

    • @maxxdahl6062
      @maxxdahl6062 Рік тому

      @@RetroRGB I know NBA jam was developed using a master system, there's a master system prototype that's been floating around.

  • @Dark_Jaguar
    @Dark_Jaguar 2 роки тому +44

    I remember "chasing" TV stations across broadcasting zones during long interstate trips as a kid with Gamegear TV tuner in tow. I was very grateful to have it, even if now I'm reduced to a G revision that won't display TV, oh that and there's no analog broadcasts for it to pick up any more. That, and there's a myriad of ways to watch video on the go that are far better than a battery guzzling Game Gear.

    • @terence79chan
      @terence79chan Рік тому

      I still have that tuner and it now listens to broadcast from a DIY uhf transmitter connnected to the VGA out of my other GG.. Haha

    • @Dark_Jaguar
      @Dark_Jaguar Рік тому +2

      @@terence79chan Funny thing is the old "circuit tutorial" set I got as a gift from Radioshack as a kid has proven more useful, as analog radio broadcasts outlived analog TV broadcasts.

    • @terence79chan
      @terence79chan Рік тому

      @@Dark_Jaguar that’s so true. 😂

  • @LonSeidman
    @LonSeidman 2 роки тому +18

    I got a lot of use out of my Game Gear - had that SMS adapter and the TV tuner!

    • @RetroGamerBB
      @RetroGamerBB 2 роки тому +1

      I'd love for someone to make a modern dtv tuner for the game gear, for no good reason

    • @Princess_Jade64
      @Princess_Jade64 2 роки тому +1

      I also have the SMS adapter. pretty handy as my SMS has broken.

  • @Wilberon_McBane
    @Wilberon_McBane 2 роки тому +4

    That GG Cardboard "Bezel" was absolute genius!!! 🤣🤣🤣

    • @RetroRGB
      @RetroRGB  2 роки тому +1

      LOL, thanks :) I stole the idea from Maxim...but I don't think he intended it to be so silly ;p

  • @RichardCraig
    @RichardCraig Рік тому +15

    I remember discovering that Prince of Persia was actually just an SMS game when I pulled the cartridge out while it was running, and obviously the game crashed but so did the scaler, so I was able to see a cropped portion of the full resolution graphics on my GG. It baffled me for years until I figured out what was actually happening.

  • @jons9356
    @jons9356 2 роки тому +11

    As bad as the original Game Gear screen looks today, peering into the Toys R Us display case back in the day was mind-blowing! Portable Sega games in full COLOR was like alien technology back then. 😉

  • @richardadams4928
    @richardadams4928 Рік тому +2

    Back in 1999, I had a Compaq 2015C WindowsCE Handheld PC, which was about the same size as a GameGear, and there was a WinCE emulator available for GameGear. I didn't play it that much, regrettably, but I did load up Mickey Mouse, Donald Duck, and Daffy Duck, and they were all impressive.

  • @Taric25
    @Taric25 2 роки тому +3

    This was such a great video. I grew up on the Nintendo side and didn't know much about Sega. The TV adapter for the game gear would have instantly made you the coolest kid in school.

  • @awakenedsoul2638
    @awakenedsoul2638 Рік тому +2

    I wish I had this accessory back in the day in the 90's!

  • @whiskeyvengeance
    @whiskeyvengeance 2 роки тому +2

    Always love these deep dive videos, especially with a such a great handheld that too many sleep on!

  • @LolaliciousSmiley
    @LolaliciousSmiley 2 роки тому +10

    I have never seen an SG-1000 or a Master System, even if I've played a number of the games! This era of Sega is a complete blindspot for me, so this was super cool!

    • @maxxdahl6062
      @maxxdahl6062 Рік тому +1

      Would have been hard to see an SG-1000 outside of japan. It didn't really get released anywhere else.

    • @skycloud4802
      @skycloud4802 Рік тому +1

      Master System was very popular in UK. I had one. Not a lot of people in USA have heard of it apparently though.

  • @Autotrope
    @Autotrope Рік тому +2

    Thank you, I've now learned why some of my legit game gear ROMs load up in emulators at full master system resolution. I had assumed they were hacked roms (fan ports) or the emulator was failing to crop properly - turns out it was working as on original game gears (albeit those would have used much worse scaling)

  • @eyzmaster
    @eyzmaster 9 місяців тому +1

    Great inside look and info. Great job!

  • @TomVanDeusen
    @TomVanDeusen 2 роки тому +2

    I had the TV Tuner as a kid! Definitely great for swim meets when I couldn't watch my Saturday morning cartoons

  • @Obscusion2
    @Obscusion2 2 роки тому +4

    It was really awesome to see a Game Gear-exclusive game with the "expanded" screen size & proper coloring, as I managed to get the same result on a stock Sega Genesis using the RetroN5 adapter, but the colors were understandably all destroyed & I couldn't actually start any of my Game Gear games on the Genesis, minus Chuck Rock 2 (which would just crash upon starting Level 1). Amusingly enough, even SG-1000 games can boot up on a Genesis, with the audio playing just fine, but since the Genesis doesn't support that old video mode (hence why F-16 Fighting Falcon doesn't work) nothing shows up on the screen.

  • @doubleHLabs
    @doubleHLabs 2 роки тому +2

    This is awesome to see happen. I remember years ago, talking to others about doing this on SMSpower, but no one took on the project at the time.

  • @roberto1519
    @roberto1519 8 місяців тому +1

    Pretty cool! There are quite a few GG2SMS games that were reworked and removes the garbled area.
    Maybe it was the choice of words that sounded a bit off, but the Power Base doesn't actually allows the Mega Drive to be backwards compatible, it's basically only a passthrough since the cartridge slots are different, the converter allows the console to read the SMS carts and cards, it's otherwise backwards compatible internally.

  • @julesgamergourmand
    @julesgamergourmand 2 роки тому +3

    The Master system is the best console forever in my heart.

  • @thehumbleone1983
    @thehumbleone1983 2 роки тому +3

    This was a great video as a kid i too always wanted Sega to make a Super Game Boy for the Sega Master System console back then so I definitely be checking this out as I grew with the Game Gear

  • @simonwilkie
    @simonwilkie 2 роки тому +1

    Incredible work. Loved this episode. Thank you

  • @J_Business
    @J_Business 2 роки тому +1

    Love these deep dives. Another great video. Now time to recap the ol' GG

  • @hadesmcc
    @hadesmcc 2 роки тому +1

    Didn't know about these adapters, thank you for showing these!

  • @indask8
    @indask8 2 роки тому +8

    When I was a kid I remember Prince of persia looked weird on game gear, the copyright screen was tiny and blurry it was the only game like this (the only one I owned), now I know why (I eventually got a master converter so I figured out it had something to do with the master system resolution).

  • @absabs129
    @absabs129 9 місяців тому +1

    This was one of the most informative and in-depth videos ive seen on youtube. It was TV quality....back from when TV had quality 😢.

  • @KasumiKenshirou
    @KasumiKenshirou 2 роки тому +9

    I had the GG TV Tuner. It definitely was not as good as the dedicated portable TVs on the market at the time, but it was better than nothing. There were a few UHF channels at my house that I could not pick up on the TV in my room at my parents' house. But I could get them on the GG if I pointed the antenna in just the right direction or went outside with it.

  • @cireza_
    @cireza_ 2 роки тому +3

    Thanks for the video. I love the Game Gear and I am currently developing my own Game Gear game. Hopefully I will be able to complete it !

  • @Septer_Sever
    @Septer_Sever 2 роки тому +2

    Great video, thanks for giving the Game Gear some love! I have many of the mods you mentioned, but my favorite way to play my original carts is through the adapter for the Mega SG. Especially, after the FirebrandX settings adjustments.

  • @SirJonSoda
    @SirJonSoda 2 роки тому +4

    I didn't know about those GG to SMS conversions. They look great

  • @sergeleon1163
    @sergeleon1163 2 роки тому +1

    Great and informative video as a owner of both the SMS and Game Gear

  • @rchassereau2
    @rchassereau2 Рік тому +1

    Really interesting video!

  • @NerdlyPleasures
    @NerdlyPleasures 2 роки тому +2

    The Analogue Mega Sg with its cartridge adapters can run original Game Gear cartridges, and with the optional DAC can display on a 15KHz CRT with proper border masking and correct support for the SMS video mode games. All three of those components can be bought from the Analogue store and be shipped out now if you do not want to wait out the shipping schedule for the Analogue Pocket.

    • @onetwo6039
      @onetwo6039 2 роки тому

      Yes. That what I'm currently using and while it's awesome, I'm getting a small picture within my Sony CRT. Not sure how to make it to fit the full screen of my CRT tv. 🤔

    • @NerdlyPleasures
      @NerdlyPleasures 2 роки тому

      @@onetwo6039 In that respect, the Mega Sg must behave like every other device shown in this video on a CRT, the Game Gear's resolution is 160 pixels by 144 lines and the CRT expects 240 lines, so a Game Gear must have borders if you want proper proportions.

    • @onetwo6039
      @onetwo6039 2 роки тому

      @@NerdlyPleasures ok so basically that's the way it's going to be. There isn't really anything that can be done?
      I'm kinda scared to mess with the settings on the SG worried I might do something way wrong.

  • @ChristopherJDeo
    @ChristopherJDeo 2 роки тому +1

    Bob! Thank you so much for this info, and of course thanks to the devs of all of this!! I loved the GameGear as a kid and my collection of games for it is my favorite to display. I also wanted a TV tuner sooooo bad. Definitely going to follow the development of this, will be one of the first to pick it up. I've recapped a number of GGs at this point, also have a couple damaged beyond repair. I have a analogue pocket on order. I've been waiting for this space to mature. SO between the new boards, more repairs and consolizers, I better put some money together for all this.

  • @DQSpider
    @DQSpider Рік тому +2

    It's also important to remember that although the screens were "good enough" at the time it's also been 30 years now and the contrast and pixel response has definitely gotten better with age

  • @retroprojections
    @retroprojections 2 роки тому +1

    Very, very, very cool! Thanks for the awesome video, and your, always great work!

    • @RetroRGB
      @RetroRGB  2 роки тому

      Thanks for watching!

  • @cloudff72000
    @cloudff72000 2 роки тому +1

    Your timing on this is actually pretty good. Postman is apparently working on a GG consolizer thats similar to the GBHD line of products, with plans to unveil (hopefully) in the fall. Can't wait to see how that turns out

    • @RetroRGB
      @RetroRGB  2 роки тому

      Yup, I've been following their posts. It looks cool!

  • @SteveCirelli
    @SteveCirelli 7 місяців тому +1

    Loved my GG! Still do. Wish I had had Master System!
    Oh I had/have the TV tuner! I remember I would try to watch TV on my way to my grandparents but could never tune anything I wanted to watch. Even at home I had a hard time tuning stuff in.

  • @sogero2
    @sogero2 2 роки тому +1

    Thank you so much for indulging my curiosity in pretty much any way you could put it all together. When you pulled out the power base converter, I was like, "This is why you keep your patreon subscription." LOL

    • @RetroRGB
      @RetroRGB  2 роки тому

      Hahahahaha...thanks very much!

  • @jamesburke2759
    @jamesburke2759 2 роки тому +2

    Oh man the TV tuner for the GG was epic. When i got a used GG with sonic games, tv tuner and car adapter my gameboy felt primitive and got put down until i got a GBA

  • @mtshark7
    @mtshark7 Рік тому

    Awesome video man! I love the game gear. One thing you forgot to mention was the game gear adapter for the Analogue Mega SG, it's a great way to play these games on the TV.

    • @RetroRGB
      @RetroRGB  Рік тому +1

      Yeah, I pinned a comment about that...but you're right, I totally forgot.

  • @robertdanker6193
    @robertdanker6193 Рік тому +1

    Great video!! Was that a St1ka cameo!??! If so AMAZING!!😄👍👍👍

    • @RetroRGB
      @RetroRGB  Рік тому +1

      Absolutely!!! He shot that footage just for this video :)

    • @robertdanker6193
      @robertdanker6193 Рік тому +1

      @@RetroRGB Wow that is awesome!!! I really enjoy his channel as well!! Overall a super episode!!👍👍👌👌👌

  • @CollinKenny
    @CollinKenny 2 роки тому +1

    Awesome Bob, thank you so much.

  • @nimrodlevy
    @nimrodlevy 2 роки тому +1

    Love your videos. Period.

    • @RetroRGB
      @RetroRGB  2 роки тому

      Thanks for watching!

  • @eol6632
    @eol6632 2 роки тому +6

    Never been a fan of the GG but def looking forward to things like this or a consolizer. Re-capping these things are not fun. I'v done about 4 so far, not as bad as a Sega CD model 1 but...not much.
    Thanks for the hard work Bob, we appreciate it!

  • @Bleats_Sinodai
    @Bleats_Sinodai Рік тому +2

    Fun fact: Game Gear emulators can run SMS games if you just change the file extension! It also works with virtual console rom injection.

    • @RetroRGB
      @RetroRGB  Рік тому +1

      Same with rom carts. Like I showed here.

  • @Sonicjan
    @Sonicjan День тому

    9:49
    Super Nintendo Entertainment System + GameBoy = Super GameBoy
    Master System + Game Gear = Master Gear
    I think that would've been the most fitting name

  • @GameplayandTalk
    @GameplayandTalk 2 роки тому +2

    Good stuff. Very cool to see an adaptor for SMS. I wonder if it will remain a one-off or if it will go into production.

  • @adonian
    @adonian 2 роки тому +1

    I love seeing the inside of retro consoles. So clean and uncluttered. "Simple" ya know.

  • @rustymixer2886
    @rustymixer2886 2 роки тому +2

    @9:17 😆 ghetto genius

  • @todesziege
    @todesziege Рік тому

    I seem to be the only one, but I love the look of the original Game Gear screen and would never want to replace it.

  • @golvellius6855
    @golvellius6855 Рік тому +2

    Love the video thank you

  • @raikoh05
    @raikoh05 Рік тому +1

    When you said super game boy for the game gear, I thought you could play game boy games on game gear. This makes more sense

  • @10p6
    @10p6 10 днів тому +1

    Interesting. Considering the Turbo Express released only 2 months after the Game Gear with full resolution, Sega should have made the Game Gear with a full 256 x 192 resolution screen.

  • @Izquierda
    @Izquierda 2 роки тому +19

    I know the whole "just use a MiSTer" thing has become almost a meme like the older Pi line, but for the Game Gear in particular it really is the best way to go by far, all things considered.

    • @videogameobsession
      @videogameobsession 2 роки тому +6

      I'm pretty happy with the Analogue Mega Sg + GG adapter and Analogue Pocket + GG, but I like playing from my carts. Though it would be a nice choice if Analogue ever gets around to jailbreaking it, to have more options.

    • @jonniefast
      @jonniefast 2 роки тому +4

      your mister is portable? wow

    • @jonniefast
      @jonniefast 2 роки тому

      i sold mine for $700 lol

    • @videogameobsession
      @videogameobsession 2 роки тому +3

      @@jonniefast Someone is actually working on a portable MiSTer. I think it was shown off on an earlier RetroRGB video.

    • @raikoh05
      @raikoh05 Рік тому

      That or analog pocket

  • @naliboi93
    @naliboi93 2 роки тому

    Oh man, I went mad last year when upgrading my GameGear. Started with a full recap, only to realise that 1/3 of the original screen wasn't even working. No amount of attempted heating of the connectors would salvage it.
    Then added the McWill screen. Then wired up the VGA pads for TV out. Also snagged a SCART cable from VideoGamePerfection so I could play on my PAL CRT. I also added the PXLmod player 1 board. I managed to get both Dsub ports sitting flush with the system. Time consuming but absolutely worth it.
    In a way I built a GameGear "Switch". The thing chews through 6 eneloops at a time so its barely a portable, but hey at least I can plug it into mains and into a TV.
    The folk at SMS are wizards. They helped me figure out how to get lightgun games working on a Gamegear whilst using TV out on CRT. You'll need a Master Gear link cable (game gear link cable modified with a 9 pin controller port for player 2) - this is for the TH signal (only obtainable via player 2 kn the link cable). You also need a means of providing 5v and ground to the link cable. I basically built a passthrough adapter the plugs between my lightgun and the Master gear cable, which grabs its ground and 5v from usb. The lightgun ROMS also need to be the modified version that treats player 2 inputs via the Master Gear link cable as player 1.
    All in all, really happy with the end result. That said, some of the other builds are more insane. There's a guy on SMSpower that even managed to do all of the above whilst also getting the Master System's FM upgrade and 3D hardware working on their modded GameGear.

  • @ghgaming9011
    @ghgaming9011 Рік тому +2

    There is a good GameGear emulator option on the GBAx5 Mini Everdrive too. I play them with my Gamecube Gameboy Player.

  • @jfroco
    @jfroco 2 роки тому

    Great video!!! I asked Krikzz (Everdrive's creator) when he announced the NES core for the Mega EverDrive PRO, why instead of that , he releases as Game Gear core. He said that "It can not be done due genesis palette limitation".... now I'm thinking that maybe the SNES+FXPak Pro is a better alternative for releasing a Game Gear core (like the SGB core for the FXPak Pro)

  • @tymaginnis7746
    @tymaginnis7746 Рік тому +1

    It would be excellent if a genesis version comes out too. I always wanted to play my game gear games on the Genesis.

  • @brianharrison06
    @brianharrison06 2 роки тому +1

    Great video, Just decided to open my old game gear and replaced the caps with SMD caps except for the power board which got regular caps. The smell was horrid when changing them. would be interesting to see 2 player running on the master system mod instead of a game gear with link cable.

  • @fthetm
    @fthetm 2 роки тому +1

    One quick note, the Majesco model game gears (manufactured in the 2000s) haven't been known to suffer the same capacitor issues that the Sega made units did.

    • @RetroRGB
      @RetroRGB  2 роки тому +1

      I personally wouldn't chance it.

  • @synestematic
    @synestematic Рік тому +1

    i used to have the castle of illusion game when I was a kid and it filled the screen of my game gear entirely... weird since Im now learning this is a just a MS rom on a GG cart. anyway cool video!

  • @extremawesomazing
    @extremawesomazing 2 роки тому

    I absolutely wanted a GG TV adapter as a kid. Nowadays I'd still enjoy if there were some way it worked with my CleanScreen modded GG. Ah well.
    The CleanCreen mod has TV out contacts on the board, though I haven't looked into what it might require to use, other than soldering on ports. Additionally, CleanScreen was way easier to install than others according to my modder. This was due to the flex ribbon and the reduced number of necessary cap replacements post-removal, speaking only for my GG which is an older model with worse leaking. The only drawback I might mention is that RetroSix used to have a bit of a reputation for sending incorrect parts (the flex ribbon in my case), but they helped me get the right one on the second try and were professional.

    • @DrYak
      @DrYak Рік тому +1

      TV adapter works by directly driving the LCD (it puts the Game Gear's chipset in a special mode that shuts down the CPU and VPU and diectly passes through the cartridge pins to the LCD).
      Sadly that means that the various TV adapters will output yet other different resolutions and timings, than the native 160x144 or the SMS-compatible 256x200 mode that the mod screens recognize and can decode.

  • @mdkos
    @mdkos Рік тому +3

    In keeping with the same sort of naming scheme as "Super Game Boy" might I suggest "Sega Master Gear"?

  • @mscottjohnson3424
    @mscottjohnson3424 2 роки тому +2

    Definitely not for everyone, given the price, but I have a RetroFreak clone console, which is kind of like a Retron 5, but it plays a lot more than 5 (11 different consoles and handhelds if I remember correctly). It's emulation, but really good emulation with lots of options like save states, video options, scan lines, and it outputs at 720p over HDMI, so not good if you're using a CRT.
    It will play Genesis/Mega Drive games natively through a cartridge slot, but there's an adapter you can get that lets it also play Master System and SG-1000 cartridges and MyCards as well as Game Gear cartridges. It handles Game Gear emulation independently from Master System, so you lose no color range and there's no junk on the edges. However, it simply scales the Game Gear screen to 4:3 720p, so unless you're playing a Game Gear game that is just a Master System ROM, it's not going to increase the viewing area. But since the RetroFreak also plays Master System games, you can just use those instead.
    Unlike the Retron 5, the RetroFreak can rip your game ROMs to an SD card and play off that without you needing to insert the cartridge every time. The dirty secret is that you can just put downloaded ROMs on there and play even if you don't have the Game Gear/SMS adapter. Though I'd say it's morally light gray to download a ROM of a game you actually own, and only slightly darker morally gray to download a SMS ROM for a Game Gear game you actually own. But the RetroFreak will still play real carts if you have the right hardware, and it looks and sounds fantastic.

    • @jfroco
      @jfroco 2 роки тому +1

      I use the RetroN 5 3-in-1 adapter with my RetroFreak, it supports SMS, Sega card, and Sega Game Gear games. All work great.

    • @mscottjohnson3424
      @mscottjohnson3424 2 роки тому

      @@jfroco does the Retron 5 also play Game Gear and Master System games with an adapter?

  • @DaRoblin
    @DaRoblin 2 роки тому

    You could totally watch broadcasts on it via one of those digital converters. They have analog outs as well as ANT passthrough (touch the antenna to the center coax pin). If you're gonna watch TV on a GG in 2022, you gotta go all-in ridiculous.

  • @extremawesomazing
    @extremawesomazing 2 роки тому +2

    Hah! Love the cardboard bezel.

  • @DrLilo
    @DrLilo 2 роки тому +1

    I was really expecting that little switch on the side of the adapter to toggle on a masking border to cover the garbage pixels....

    • @RetroRGB
      @RetroRGB  2 роки тому +1

      I would have loved that, but it's not possible with software like that :(

  • @juanjoserivasgarcia2336
    @juanjoserivasgarcia2336 9 місяців тому

    Bob, this chapter was amazing. In my opinion the Super Game Gear project looks like the most amazing solution here, It will be amazing if the developer found a way to add nice frames the video, like the Super Gameboy does. ALSO it will be amazing if they Add LINK CABLE support, like Super Gameboy 2 does, that way I bet people like me will buy 2 instead 1, in order to use them linking 2 consoles for 2 player games. BTW, I think the only comparison your video lacked is to watch at the same time, Game Gear games like SONIC, compared with their proper extended resolution at a TV , next to the Sega Master System version.

  • @fromthegamethrone
    @fromthegamethrone Рік тому +1

    The adapter could be programed to display an overlay on top of the garbage data, the same as modern day retro compilations having the "arcade cabinet" as a border

    • @RetroRGB
      @RetroRGB  Рік тому

      Not possible. I wish it were though.

    • @fromthegamethrone
      @fromthegamethrone Рік тому

      @@RetroRGB Any idea why it's not possible?

  • @jengelenm
    @jengelenm 2 роки тому

    Curious! Big Game Gear fan! Let’s bring it on!

  • @Roboat06
    @Roboat06 2 роки тому +1

    It would be interesting to see what they could do with the Genesis hardware, considering that it has the same (or at least a similar) 4096 color pallete and extra processing power that could be used to draw a border à la the Super Game Boy.

    • @SpacedHarrier
      @SpacedHarrier 2 роки тому +1

      The Genesis maxes out at 512. You’d either have to make something that actively runs the Game Gear game and converts the output to something the Genesis can display (like a more involved Super Game Boy, not really worth it nowadays), or figure out how to get the SMS backwards compatibility working. It doesn’t sound like anyone has figured out the latter yet.

    • @Roboat06
      @Roboat06 2 роки тому

      @@SpacedHarrier Oh, my bad, I forgot. Still, it would be much easier to find proper color matched with the larger pallete.

    • @GhostCorpsGenesis
      @GhostCorpsGenesis Рік тому

      Sega was developing a GG to Gen converter around 1995, presumably for launch for the Nomad. It most likely would of just been a GG Z80 running through the Gen hardware kinda like the SVP chip does for Virtua Racing or the SH2s in the 32X.

  • @mark6302
    @mark6302 Рік тому

    I also wanted that TV tuner so bad. Now I watch videos about people talking about TV tuners on something the size of a pack of smokes...

  • @bramvandenbroeck5060
    @bramvandenbroeck5060 Рік тому

    I vaguely remember my sega game gear days when i was a kid, i had some cool games like sonic, wonderboy, outrun and a couple more i don't remember, but what i do remember, was my dad getting annoyed of me always asking for double AA's, i would take double AA's from where i could find them (clock in the kitchen, tv, vcr and hifi remotes etc) just to get 1 or 2 hours extra on this game gear thing! It eats batteries for lunch! So when it was my birthday, offcourse i would ask for a big pack of quality double AA's! But my dad didn't bought me double AA's, he gave me a pack of C or D cells, those giant big ones! I didn't understand why he would gave me the wrong kind of batteries, but than he gave me something else, an official Sega "Booster Pack", it came with a sega wall adapter and this big black box with a wire on it, those big C or D cells were offcourse for this black box thing, it took 6 of those giant batteries, and it could power the game gear for a good while, handy for those long car trips! At home i would just use the wall adapter! But when i got my gameboy pocket which could run for hours and hours on a set of tripple A's, my game gear got burried in the lowest drawer of my closet, and since i forgot to take out those double A's (durasmell, i still hate you!), offcourse they had leaked when i wanted to play my game gear once again after a couple of months, completely ruining my game gear! My dad couldn't repair it, it was to far gone, and i was sad, really sad, because honestly, i loved that lil sega console!

    • @RetroRGB
      @RetroRGB  Рік тому +1

      Your story put a smile on my face. Not cause I'm laughing at your AA peril...but because I went through something similar :)

  • @CrossedCoder
    @CrossedCoder Рік тому +1

    The GG auto tuner (only released in japan) doesn’t use the dedicated pins. I would have liked to see you try that one

    • @RetroRGB
      @RetroRGB  Рік тому

      I didn't even know that was a thing!!! I'd love to try one.

  • @absabs129
    @absabs129 9 місяців тому +1

    Wow...did not realise that Sonic on master system ( and game gear?). Came After the more superior Megadrive/ genisis one. 🤯

  • @codenamecod2931
    @codenamecod2931 Рік тому

    I have a mint lion king edition game gear and 30 boxed games and 45 unboxed games. I have CIB master gear converter still with the warranty card and sticker! ❤

  • @Retro_Royal
    @Retro_Royal 2 роки тому +1

    St1kaaaa....! (Voice from Kirk shouting "KHAAAAN!")

    • @st1ka
      @st1ka 2 роки тому +1

      haha yep that's me :D

  • @3DJapan
    @3DJapan 2 роки тому +1

    I wanted the TV tuner but it was so expensive.

  • @nickschultz4204
    @nickschultz4204 2 роки тому

    A few things to add - game gear can be modded with FM and 3D glasses hardware, but it's not a user friendly mod at all. Also, almost all LCD screen mods also output RGBs but use (I think? maybe?) ttl level sync. you can use a small $4-5 open source AV module to add composite video AND s-video to get full output options. It should work with MCwill modded VGA consoles too to get a console that could all that as well, likely sharing pins on the VGA connector. Finally, a consolized game gear that doesn't output correct RGB video on master system games is unfortunately maybe not modded correctly (it could be an older limitation of tims board?) - the game gear compresses master system video to fit the game gear LCD normally which messes with the video - to get around this most LCD and video mods connect a wire that essentially disables the SMS video compression giving it proper video output. it's a common mistake in LCD installs to miss this wire and cause video issues just like yours in "mickey".

  • @adamatomant3381
    @adamatomant3381 2 роки тому +2

    This was fascinating and it makes me want to go buy a Game Gear. I wish I knew what happened to the two I had when I was younger.

  • @thickie-d
    @thickie-d 2 роки тому +1

    Because Genesis is mostly (?) backwards compatible with SMS games, is it possible for similar adaptor be created for use on a genesis utilising the proper gg colors that i assume a genesis could handle?

    • @RetroRGB
      @RetroRGB  Рік тому +2

      No, because the Genesis switches to SMS mode when the Power Base Converter is used. Great question though. I should have mentioned that ;/

  • @Dez083
    @Dez083 2 роки тому

    The Mega SG with its GG adapter will also allow you to play GG on the TV

  • @peterdwyer6118
    @peterdwyer6118 Рік тому +1

    I loved my GG, was far better than the game boy. You could it on the dark and it was a better design you could also watch TV on it. Cracking handheld. I wish I still had mine

  • @joseluki
    @joseluki Рік тому

    Hey Bob, I don't have any hardware that can run SMS games, but I am interested in emulating GG2SMS roms, particularly exclusives like the Shinobi GG games and Tails adventure at a higher resolution.
    I am running with a main problem, first, emulators recognize it as a GG roms so many of them load it with a reduced resolution that the patch is intended with, but the main problem I have is that the color palette is twisted and the games have artifacts and look all red basically like a Virtual Boy rom.
    Is there an emulator that can run patched GG2SMS games properly?

  • @alanmorford
    @alanmorford Рік тому

    What's the latest on the Gear Master device? I can't seem to find much on it.

  • @electronjunkie5697
    @electronjunkie5697 2 роки тому +1

    Woot! I need a cardboard bezel!

  • @roberto1519
    @roberto1519 Рік тому

    I wonder if the Game Gear benefits from its lower resolution to display more colors, otherwise I feel it's basically a Master System in smaller form factor. I like it as it kind of gave the Master System more years in the market, so we have a better idea on how would the SMS fair with more third party support and newer titles, like Shining Force and other exclusives.

  • @muzzynat
    @muzzynat 2 роки тому

    I'd really love to see game gear games playable via the FPGA on the Mega Everdrive Pro, but I'm guessing that would require bios files that don't actually exist.

  • @SatoshiMatrix1
    @SatoshiMatrix1 7 місяців тому

    8:24 What does the toggle switch on that prototype do? It seems to be labelled "J and O". Could that be Japan and overseas....? But then, I'm confused. The GameGear is region free and Japanese Mark III games have a physically different pin connector than Master System. So what the heck does that toggle switch do?

  • @neophytealpha
    @neophytealpha 2 роки тому

    Wish Sega would bring out an updated Game Gear, compatable with the old stuff. Plus an updated digital TV tuner.

  • @Tumiadcantapervoi
    @Tumiadcantapervoi 10 місяців тому

    Hi
    I search to buy the game gear converter to the master system but now in your web I can't see nothing
    Can you help me?

  • @TheTurnipKing
    @TheTurnipKing Рік тому

    With the benefit of hindsight, maybe they should have let people play Game Gear games on the Master System instead of the other way around. and Imagine if they'd done the same thing for the Megadrive. The same tiny carts on three different pieces of Seega hardware.
    You'd need some kind of code trap to figure out whether the game was running on GG or Master System because of the GG's extra vi.deo options, and the games would have be be designed to work on either, which is probably why they didn't go this route, but it would have been very neat

  • @loganjorgensen
    @loganjorgensen Рік тому

    Kind of missed opportunity that they didn't add dynamic GG window cropping options, that way it wouldn't be fixed and the GG screen could have changed and improved over time. Would have needed a 160x120 4:3 LCD instead but then it could have bumped up to 208x156, and 256x192 GG models. Would have made AV-out more attractive for the GG, could have done 256x192 on TVs. :D Although really I always hoped Brazil might do a SMS-2 with Start button and improved color palette included, but it never happened. :(
    If it had been adaptive from the start the GG versus SMS code difference wouldn't be the obstacle it became later. Certainly if I could hack GG titles I'd likely include a few window size options while I was at it. That sprite spawning window edge difference seems to give people some trouble though since many produce more screen but the gameplay is still 160x144 based. With GG exclusives there is a performance aspect for that smaller screen sometimes which is a complication.
    I do think Sega could have planned the GG better though so that official SMS or Genesis GG cart adapters could have been made just like Nintendo did with the SGB. Glad somebody tackled a hardware based solution since palette shifting is a trivial matter, sure it looks technically better on GG but that doesn't mean SMS colors can't apply.
    Sweet original hardware solutions you featured there, a new PCB is a great salvage option for those custom IC chips. True it's more a hobby to use OG-GG hardware now that I can see why many use other paths to GG gaming.

  • @turbinegraphics16
    @turbinegraphics16 2 роки тому

    I was a bit disappointed with my screen mod, the pixels are not even so it causes flashing when scrolling which is distracting.

  • @germancastano2241
    @germancastano2241 Рік тому

    Is there some option to play link cables games?

  • @yeolemillinial8295
    @yeolemillinial8295 2 роки тому

    is there no way they couldn't have an option to have a template like with the super gameboy

  • @gumbyx84
    @gumbyx84 2 роки тому

    Couldn't the bezel be build into the adapter?

  • @arthurcarneirolopes6383
    @arthurcarneirolopes6383 2 роки тому

    If you use the 3-in-1 adapter by Hyperkin on a Sega Genesis you can play Game Gear, the problem is that the colors usually get messed up and the screen is small. Also, does this GG reverse engineering project need parts from the original console or is it all new, like a clone system?

    • @RetroRGB
      @RetroRGB  2 роки тому

      The Hyperkin is just way to use original carts via mid-tier emulation. Using ROMs on a phone might even be better.
      This project is more like a Game Genie that makes software changes in real time.

    • @arthurcarneirolopes6383
      @arthurcarneirolopes6383 Рік тому

      @@RetroRGB But it fits in the original Genesis and it works as a replacement for the Power Base Converter.

  • @uliseslima318
    @uliseslima318 2 роки тому +1

    The super Mega Tower

  • @GregsGameRoom
    @GregsGameRoom 2 роки тому

    Hopefully the developer can get the Super Game Gear to work with the Genesis converter!