Most people here (I’m Dutch), don’t buy a coffee while commuting, we make and drink it at home. For lunch, we have our own food with us or we buy it from the catering service at work and consume it at the workspace./lunchroom. Or it’s a mix, you buy a soup at the catering (1€), and eat your own sandwich with it.
Depends on what work you do..If you do work with your hands or with a machine,you first drink on the side.Then you go to work until 9,30 and drink another cup off coffee. At 10 you go to work again.Until its 12,30. You eat your lunch. On 13.00 hours you go to work again until its 16,30,maybe 17.00 and go to home.People that do paperwork do also a cup off thee on 15.00.
I usually start at the office with a coffee, standing at a standing table in the kitchen where also the main entrance is so as colleagues come in, we drink 1 or 2 coffees together. And yes, also the managers and the boss join us when coming in. We exchange stories and jokes and after 20 minutes or so we get to work. That's how it is in most Dutch companies I worked. We always say, "als het werk maar af komt", "as long as the work gets done". We take our coffee really serious, our bosses too
When I walk 8 minutes I am either in this grocery store or in this grocery store. I can choose between two grocery stores, both at the same walking distance. Or 3 to 5 minutes to three others, when I go by bike.
I wil say, the difference is the scope of how large America is versus Netherlands (I am Dutch myself). Also we have way more bikes (I believe average was 1,5 bikes per person), mainly due to the shorter distances. Public transport also is something many use instead of driving with their cars to other cities. Dependant on how far you live from your work it might actually be faster and/or cheaper to use public transport. I mean, yes our city design is quite wel done, specially our separate bike lanes are something to be proud of. Our roads are also generally very wel preserved. Generally for coffee and food, dependant on what is available at your job, you can either take food with you and drink some coffee at home. Or where I work we have a coffee machine where you can make coffee as much as you like pretty much. Hope you feel better soon. So get well!
It's not the size of countries that makes the difference, but the density of cities. You can't have everything within walking/biking distance, if everyone lives in single family houses on large lots.
@@dachivale5319 Not true, the size of the country has nothing to do with it. You wouldn't normally take your bike to go to the other side of the country in Netherlands either. And the distances in the USA are artificial, started after WW2, with some better planning the distances would be similar to those in Europe.
@@apveening Exactly my point though, I think you are not even getting what I was saying. I mean, yeah, of course you would not travel to the other end of the country with your bike. The distances are too far away to make using your bike logical. In USA the bike is not used much due to these larger distances, among other reasons. So yes, the size of the country does have something to do with it. At least to some extent. In a smaller country where everything is at a distance that you can travel it by bike it is more logical to use a bike for one of your traveling methods than a country where almost everywhere you want to go is a lot further away. Maybe if they changed things so their infrastructure was better, it would be easier to use a bike. But that is not really the point I was making. So do tell me, what about any of that wasn't true? A larger country with more distances to travel on average is less likely to have people ride bikes. Not saying there are no other factors as wel, there certainly are, I never said or claimed there wasn't.
A very interesting video. Here in Gdynia, Poland, I see more people on bikes than I used to, but maybe because it's summertime ;) No, seriously, road designers are doing their best, changes are significant, but obviously we're far behind the Netherlands.
When I was young it was allowed at our Mac drive in for a while. But imagine hundreds of drunk teens on the weekends (alcohol min age was 16 at that time), on bikes, trying to order and pickup their food….it was mayhem. Foodfights, people getting the order of someone else, puking, trashing or crashing…. So that ended quickly. Less police resources and less stress for the employees.
In The Netherlands we don't grab a coffee. Besides we don't have coffee for breakfast, but tea. Coffee comes in the office at 10:00 a.m. sharp and tea at 3 p.m. sharp. No charge. In the morning we want to get to the office early to leave early. This video is obviously about an typical expat living in a big city. Married life in a small city or town is VERY different. Family life.
Are you allowed through a drive-up on a bike? You don't realise what an american question that is.... i am dutch and NEVER have used a drive-up. Although there is a McD in my hometown, so i could have. But if i want fast food i go to a small neighbourhood snackbar, same price and far better quality. No need for drive-through, just step in and talk to person.
So funny you started about drive through’s 😂 we have some like McDonald but it isn’t a thing here. Most of us use their kitchen for more than microwave meals
How is this relevant though? Are you in the habit of riding to the next city over for your grocery shopping and hobby clubs? By far, far, most bike trips are within cities, not between them, so how far apart cities are shouldn't even really be a factor for those? You might as well say cars are useless in a country as large as the US, because New York and San Diego are too far apart to drive, and everyone should just get used to doing everything by airplane. Different modes of transportation are supposed to serve different needs at different scales.
@@eyrilonakestrysswyn3513 Here you can cycle to a nearby city, because people do that here, for work or school. Why you pull groceries along, I don't know. Not every one has a car, or is old enough to drive. The point is, we might not even need a car, but like I said, cities are never far away. We actually have trains and buses going all over. You don't. We even have "super bicycle paths" , from city to city. You dont know what you are talking about, thats why you use New York- San Diego, instead of New York-New Jersey. To make it sound ridiculous, which is very childish. You make it into Lets Fly Every Where. I didn't even day anything close to it. Maybe ask a adult what I said. I dont cycle to Amsterdam.
@@dennishendrikx3228 Dennis, I live in the same country you do, I am only writing in English because we are in front of an international audience here. The point I was making is entirely not what you seem to think it is -- let's start over. You said that "It is a different story" here because our cities and villages are not as far apart. I simply ask why you believe it needs to be a different story for *that* particular reason. Are you arguing that in a country where cities and villages are further apart, no bike culture could exist? This is why I pointed out that bike culture can potentially still exist on a local scale anywhere, because bikes are a local scale mode of transport. It just would mean that in that other country, bike's would only be used for very local traffic within the village or city you live in. Which is why I use getting groceries as an example of something that people could do by bike, as it is something you would not need to get to the next city or village over for. This is all getting to the point that it would be more accurate to say that the single family home suburban zoning in North America is what is in the way of bike culture over there -- the distances between locations of interest *within* the places people live are made artificially long by zoning policies, with many people having no shops anywhere near where they live because it is just a sea of suburban houses, and no safe infrastructure to get to where the shops are by bike. So I posit, it is the urban design of the towns themselves that is making it a different story, rather than the distance between them. My parable about using the fact that destinations exist beyond the reach of one mode of transportation is a direct extrapolation of the assertion people make that the existence of cities being more widely spaced over a region would somehow invalidate a more local mode of transportation. It exists to make clear how silly that assertion is, because of course the fact that you'd need an airplane for that really long cross-country distance does not mean that people can't still drive to places that are nearer, it is not as if a single mode of transportation must be our go-to for all situations. If the existence of long distance air travel does not invalidate more local intercity car travel, then neither does intercity car travel invalidate more local bike travel. I am arguing in favor of the same thing you are in favor of, and was only adding a nuance that was not present in your original post and pointing out that what makes it 'a different story' might not be what you were primarily attributing it to. Both the Not Just Bikes channel and the Strong Towns channel argue this same point -- it is not the distances, it is the design. You can find it here: ua-cam.com/video/REni8Oi1QJQ/v-deo.htmlsi=3_9npVP0AAiOe1RB
@@eyrilonakestrysswyn3513 I won't read that half book. I simply mean, that for us it is easier than for Americans. Because of the,indeed, smaller distences. People cycle from Leiden to the Hague, from Helmond to Eindhoven. So distances make it easier. In the U.S. it isnt that common, ofcourse. Because.....the distances are further apart, and there is no specific cycle road. Thats how it is relevant.
In the rare case that we visit a drive-through, I never paid attention to it, but I assume in most cases only cars are allowed in drive-througs for savety reasons. But why would you want to go there by bicycle? You just park it and walk into the store.
Where do you live and where do you come from? You said in the vid that you live below the body of water which could be wisconsin, illinois etc however your accent seems kinda southern so its a bit sus maam 😂
Rather flimsy video...not only the distance but also the times you have to commute determines what means of transport is most suitable..i live very near the places shiwn here in Amsterdam and indeed the bike is most handy...not if i lived in a small village say 10 miles from Amsterdam..car is more peactical...i guess the good thing of the Netherlands is the very good infrastructure ...most people have several options..thats not the case in many other countries..
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I approve the video about Gdańsk ;) The one abut Warsaw doesn't give any information and with only drone shots you can't really tell the difference between Warsaw and American cities. It's street level and historic sites that make the difference.
I wish there was a more direct way to reach Amy with video recommendations. In the comments you usually don't know if she saw it, so you don't know if you should recommend the same video again or quit.
Most people here (I’m Dutch), don’t buy a coffee while commuting, we make and drink it at home. For lunch, we have our own food with us or we buy it from the catering service at work and consume it at the workspace./lunchroom. Or it’s a mix, you buy a soup at the catering (1€), and eat your own sandwich with it.
1:55 only tourists take coffee on the go.. dutch people make it at home, drink it before they go to work
Or at work, many drink at work
Depends on what work you do..If you do work with your hands or with a machine,you first drink on the side.Then you go to work until 9,30 and drink another cup off coffee. At 10 you go to work again.Until its 12,30. You eat your lunch. On 13.00 hours you go to work again until its 16,30,maybe 17.00 and go to home.People that do paperwork do also a cup off thee on 15.00.
I usually start at the office with a coffee, standing at a standing table in the kitchen where also the main entrance is so as colleagues come in, we drink 1 or 2 coffees together. And yes, also the managers and the boss join us when coming in. We exchange stories and jokes and after 20 minutes or so we get to work.
That's how it is in most Dutch companies I worked.
We always say, "als het werk maar af komt", "as long as the work gets done".
We take our coffee really serious, our bosses too
@@Vinz3ntR All places I have worked out in NL have free coffee, tea & cuppa soup 🙂
Love the video 👍 Amy, take care. It wasn't boring
I never ever used a drive up, so I wouldn’t know. I don’t see why I would eat in my car ever. I don’t eat in my car.
When I walk 8 minutes I am either in this grocery store or in this grocery store. I can choose between two grocery stores, both at the same walking distance. Or 3 to 5 minutes to three others, when I go by bike.
I wil say, the difference is the scope of how large America is versus Netherlands (I am Dutch myself). Also we have way more bikes (I believe average was 1,5 bikes per person), mainly due to the shorter distances. Public transport also is something many use instead of driving with their cars to other cities. Dependant on how far you live from your work it might actually be faster and/or cheaper to use public transport.
I mean, yes our city design is quite wel done, specially our separate bike lanes are something to be proud of. Our roads are also generally very wel preserved.
Generally for coffee and food, dependant on what is available at your job, you can either take food with you and drink some coffee at home. Or where I work we have a coffee machine where you can make coffee as much as you like pretty much.
Hope you feel better soon. So get well!
It's not the size of countries that makes the difference, but the density of cities. You can't have everything within walking/biking distance, if everyone lives in single family houses on large lots.
@@bognagruba7653 ok, yes, fair, I do think the size of the country and the overall distances makes a big difference.
@@dachivale5319 Not true, the size of the country has nothing to do with it. You wouldn't normally take your bike to go to the other side of the country in Netherlands either. And the distances in the USA are artificial, started after WW2, with some better planning the distances would be similar to those in Europe.
@@apveening Exactly my point though, I think you are not even getting what I was saying. I mean, yeah, of course you would not travel to the other end of the country with your bike.
The distances are too far away to make using your bike logical. In USA the bike is not used much due to these larger distances, among other reasons.
So yes, the size of the country does have something to do with it. At least to some extent. In a smaller country where everything is at a distance that you can travel it by bike it is more logical to use a bike for one of your traveling methods than a country where almost everywhere you want to go is a lot further away.
Maybe if they changed things so their infrastructure was better, it would be easier to use a bike. But that is not really the point I was making.
So do tell me, what about any of that wasn't true? A larger country with more distances to travel on average is less likely to have people ride bikes. Not saying there are no other factors as wel, there certainly are, I never said or claimed there wasn't.
A very interesting video. Here in Gdynia, Poland, I see more people on bikes than I used to, but maybe because it's summertime ;) No, seriously, road designers are doing their best, changes are significant, but obviously we're far behind the Netherlands.
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When I was young it was allowed at our Mac drive in for a while.
But imagine hundreds of drunk teens on the weekends (alcohol min age was 16 at that time), on bikes, trying to order and pickup their food….it was mayhem.
Foodfights, people getting the order of someone else, puking, trashing or crashing….
So that ended quickly.
Less police resources and less stress for the employees.
In The Netherlands we don't grab a coffee. Besides we don't have coffee for breakfast, but tea. Coffee comes in the office at 10:00 a.m. sharp and tea at 3 p.m. sharp. No charge. In the morning we want to get to the office early to leave early. This video is obviously about an typical expat living in a big city. Married life in a small city or town is VERY different. Family life.
Are you allowed through a drive-up on a bike? You don't realise what an american question that is.... i am dutch and NEVER have used a drive-up. Although there is a McD in my hometown, so i could have. But if i want fast food i go to a small neighbourhood snackbar, same price and far better quality. No need for drive-through, just step in and talk to person.
So funny you started about drive through’s 😂 we have some like McDonald but it isn’t a thing here. Most of us use their kitchen for more than microwave meals
Dutch cities and villages aren't that far apart. Its a different story.
How is this relevant though? Are you in the habit of riding to the next city over for your grocery shopping and hobby clubs? By far, far, most bike trips are within cities, not between them, so how far apart cities are shouldn't even really be a factor for those? You might as well say cars are useless in a country as large as the US, because New York and San Diego are too far apart to drive, and everyone should just get used to doing everything by airplane. Different modes of transportation are supposed to serve different needs at different scales.
@@eyrilonakestrysswyn3513 Here you can cycle to a nearby city, because people do that here, for work or school. Why you pull groceries along, I don't know. Not every one has a car, or is old enough to drive.
The point is, we might not even need a car, but like I said, cities are never far away. We actually have trains and buses going all over. You don't. We even have "super bicycle paths" , from city to city.
You dont know what you are talking about, thats why you use New York- San Diego, instead of New York-New Jersey. To make it sound ridiculous, which is very childish. You make it into Lets Fly Every Where. I didn't even day anything close to it.
Maybe ask a adult what I said.
I dont cycle to Amsterdam.
@@eyrilonakestrysswyn3513 342 municipalities in a country just a bit bigger then Maryland.
So yes,it is a different story.
@@dennishendrikx3228 Dennis, I live in the same country you do, I am only writing in English because we are in front of an international audience here. The point I was making is entirely not what you seem to think it is -- let's start over. You said that "It is a different story" here because our cities and villages are not as far apart. I simply ask why you believe it needs to be a different story for *that* particular reason. Are you arguing that in a country where cities and villages are further apart, no bike culture could exist? This is why I pointed out that bike culture can potentially still exist on a local scale anywhere, because bikes are a local scale mode of transport. It just would mean that in that other country, bike's would only be used for very local traffic within the village or city you live in. Which is why I use getting groceries as an example of something that people could do by bike, as it is something you would not need to get to the next city or village over for. This is all getting to the point that it would be more accurate to say that the single family home suburban zoning in North America is what is in the way of bike culture over there -- the distances between locations of interest *within* the places people live are made artificially long by zoning policies, with many people having no shops anywhere near where they live because it is just a sea of suburban houses, and no safe infrastructure to get to where the shops are by bike. So I posit, it is the urban design of the towns themselves that is making it a different story, rather than the distance between them.
My parable about using the fact that destinations exist beyond the reach of one mode of transportation is a direct extrapolation of the assertion people make that the existence of cities being more widely spaced over a region would somehow invalidate a more local mode of transportation. It exists to make clear how silly that assertion is, because of course the fact that you'd need an airplane for that really long cross-country distance does not mean that people can't still drive to places that are nearer, it is not as if a single mode of transportation must be our go-to for all situations. If the existence of long distance air travel does not invalidate more local intercity car travel, then neither does intercity car travel invalidate more local bike travel.
I am arguing in favor of the same thing you are in favor of, and was only adding a nuance that was not present in your original post and pointing out that what makes it 'a different story' might not be what you were primarily attributing it to. Both the Not Just Bikes channel and the Strong Towns channel argue this same point -- it is not the distances, it is the design.
You can find it here: ua-cam.com/video/REni8Oi1QJQ/v-deo.htmlsi=3_9npVP0AAiOe1RB
@@eyrilonakestrysswyn3513 I won't read that half book.
I simply mean, that for us it is easier than for Americans. Because of the,indeed, smaller distences.
People cycle from Leiden to the Hague, from Helmond to Eindhoven. So distances make it easier. In the U.S. it isnt that common, ofcourse. Because.....the distances are further apart, and there is no specific cycle road. Thats how it is relevant.
In the rare case that we visit a drive-through, I never paid attention to it, but I assume in most cases only cars are allowed in drive-througs for savety reasons. But why would you want to go there by bicycle? You just park it and walk into the store.
The video on your computer is lagging like crazy 🤔 reset your wifi/router it will help normally.
I even have seen girls on horse back in a drive in in the Netherlands
I grab Mcdonalds with a bike after a few drinks with friends it's a 10 minute bike ride and it's easily accessible by bike and it's open until 3 AM.
What is this Dutch vs Americans day?
I don't recognise any of this. 🤔
Where do you live and where do you come from? You said in the vid that you live below the body of water which could be wisconsin, illinois etc however your accent seems kinda southern so its a bit sus maam 😂
She lives in Indiana.
Rather flimsy video...not only the distance but also the times you have to commute determines what means of transport is most suitable..i live very near the places shiwn here in Amsterdam and indeed the bike is most handy...not if i lived in a small village say 10 miles from Amsterdam..car is more peactical...i guess the good thing of the Netherlands is the very good infrastructure ...most people have several options..thats not the case in many other countries..
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I approve the video about Gdańsk ;) The one abut Warsaw doesn't give any information and with only drone shots you can't really tell the difference between Warsaw and American cities. It's street level and historic sites that make the difference.
I wish there was a more direct way to reach Amy with video recommendations. In the comments you usually don't know if she saw it, so you don't know if you should recommend the same video again or quit.