God's Plan for the Ages - 10. The Rapture of the Church
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- Опубліковано 24 сер 2024
- The rapture of the church is the topic for this message by Pastor David Guzik who explains to us how this future event will have its place in God's sovereign plan for mankind.
Read the complete Enduring Word Bible Commentary by David Guzik: enduringword.com/
Good, clear teaching. I believe Pastor David Guzik preaches the truth here - the pre-tribulation rapture. Thank you David.
Oh my gosh! Did he just say God had us focusing on certain theology through the ages??? Yes you said it brother!!! Ive been saying that for a long time! Scripture totally backs this up!! To discern the spirit of the church... You can tell the weather and you should be able to discern the times.... We won't be left without knowledge and understanding... The in general flow of the Bible as mysterys are opened up to us as time goes on. I'm so happy to hear this preached! Wisdom!!
Jessica K. Jessica, thanks! Blessings to you
These facts are so wise. This is my favorite pre-trib rapture video! Wow the way you pulled this together is amazing.
What a good message thank you for this beautiful message!
Excellent word that should have stirred all in attendencd, i enjoyed it greatly
EXCELLENT teaching of the Rapture/Harpazo, that will take place BEFORE THE GREAT TRIBULATION!
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Very clear, Biblically sound, and encouraging message.
I think that the pre wrath rapture view is the most correct.
If you think about it , pre Wrath is pre Trib , why ? , During the time of Jacobs Trouble , it is Wrath that causes Tribulation, cause and effect .
Jesus is coming soon repent and give God glory.
Nicholas Jones AMEN
Great teaching brother, God bless you.
Now in the Bible the Bible teaches that we shall not precede those who are in Christ that are actually what it means to be Resurrected in Christ First.But we shall be caught up alive to meet the Lord in the clouds.
Do you have a transcript of this message? This is the most clear I've ever heard the message of the Rapture. Please have it. God Bless you Pastor. I've felt the power of the holy spirit listening to your messages greater than any time in my life.
Sorry, no transcript.
@@DavidGuzikEnduringWord That’s okay I’ll just memorize it. 😀
@@DavidGuzikEnduringWord could someone transcript this message!?
@@rachelpage2986 sorry, we are not able to do that.
God bless you David, I hope you're right about this topic.
He has missed this by a mile..I'm surprized.
Amen ♥️
Jesus’ coming is not two seemly different events that must be separated by 7 years.
Jesus’ glorious appearing results in eternal life and salvation for believers at his coming, but in mourning and fear for the unbeliever.
It begins with the resurrection/rapture of believers at the sound of the last trumpet, and then immediately afterward, God’s wrath is poured out on the unbelievers (e.g., see 1 Thes 4 & 5)
“God is just: He will pay back trouble to those who trouble you **AND** give relief to you who are troubled, and to us as well. This will happen WHEN the Lord Jesus is revealed from heaven in blazing fire with his powerful angels.” 2 Thessalonians 1:6-7
I believe it is pre-tribulation, because it is a wedding feast with Jesus. And a wedding feast last seven days (earthly). So seven years heavenly. No better reason than that! But yes, Rev 3:10 is strong.
Rebecca Soderstrom - you’re speaking churchianity. the book of the Revelation does not contain any reference to the body of Christ. this book (and tribulation) is exclusive to Israel’s redemption plan by the Creator. (Rev3:10) is a promise to the jewish believers from God, again, not for the body of Christ. we will be raptured before the tribulation and seated in heavenly places. (Eph1:3)
i know the today’s churches are trying to teach that the body of Christ is also the bride. that is false. (Isa62:4, Rev21:2-9) clearly state that new jerusalem/nation of israel is the bride. churches try to insert themselves but can’t explain it w/ gospel (1Cor15:1-4) because they don’t know how to rightly divide the word of truth. (2Tim2:15) peace and grace
Reproof BRIDE when is the wedding - Rev. 19 is part of the vision of the judgment, of the great whore and she is judged and then She, His Wife is clothed, for the wedding and not leaving a wedding, and it is after these things and not 3 or 7 years before the tribulation as Pre-trib. says and does not agree on exactly how many years.) Rev 17:1 And there came one of the seven angels which had the seven vials, and talked with me, saying unto me, Come hither; I will SHEW unto thee THE JUDGEMENT OF the great whore that sitteth upon many waters Rev 18:1 And AFTER THESE THINGS I saw another angel come down from heaven, having great power; and the earth was lightened with his glory. Rev 19:1 And AFTER THESE THINGS I heard a great voice of much people in heaven, SAYING, Alleluia; Salvation, and glory, and honour, and power, unto the Lord our God: Rev 19:2 For true and righteous are his judgments: for HE HATH JUDGED THE GREAT WHORE, which did corrupt the earth with her fornication, and hath avenged the blood of his servants at her hand. Rev 19:7 Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to him: FOR the MARRIAGE of the Lamb IS COME, ((This is present tense or now, after these things)) and his wife hath made HERSELF READY - (Ready for the wedding, and it IS after the tribulation and the judgment of the great whore not before. ) Mat 25:10 And while they went to buy, the bridegroom CAME; and they that WERE READY WENT IN with him TO THE MARRIAGE: and the door was shut. (Does the wedding happen after these things, as the Bible says or what your false teaching says?)
thetruthimpart - i never said anything about when the wedding might be?! i believe it is in the millennium and on the earth.
@@jimoaks9270 It does not matter because i know what your false teaching believes and the wedding takes place before the millennium then Jesus treads out the wrath of God and then the millennium after the beast is and false prophet are thrown into lake of fire and satan bound in the pit
@@thetruthimpart Jim Oaks has said otherwise, so shut- IT!
Straight up, I don't understand you at all. The Thessalonians were being beaten, put to death, their homes taken away from them and their ability to work denied them. They WERE suffering horrible persecution then. So where is this comfort that is NOT the great tribulation? They were living in hell for their beliefs already. All of the disciples were put to death except for John. They were all waiting for Jesus return back then and it did not come in their time. Where was their comfort then?
The comfort is that the suffering we endure on earth is temporary. Like labor pains, we will not remember these times when we are with Jesus.
Only his Father knows not even the Angel's of heaven knows when he returns Jesus Christ.
How would anybody be taken up not in the Holy Spirit.You have to be born again to be taken up.And from above in the Spirit.
Magog and Gog will be also gone done away with by the Lord Jesus Christ by God.
Those not in the Spirit will be left on earth.Who rejected Jesus Christ.
When the trying to figure out this no one knows when the coming of Christ Jesus is.The Bible said no one knows the time are hour but you should be watching.
Investigate/research the origin of the pretrib rapture doctrine. Don't be deceived!
Born from above means Born of water the Word and Born of the Spirit the Word born again.
Matt24:36 is not referring to the timing of the return of Jesus. it is a direct answer to Matt24:35.
our only salvation in operation today is within Paul’s epistles (Rom-Phi), and the only dispensation that includes the rapture of the body of Christ. it is called the gospel (1Cor15:1-4) of Gods grace and will end this age at the rapture when we are seated in heavenly places. (Eph1:3) our new jobs will be judging angels. (1Cor6:3)
since God is not the author of confusion and would not operate more than one dispensation at a time, at the end of the grace age, the kingdom gospel dispensation will reestablish for the redemption of Israel in the tribulation.
Jesus said this.
I implore you to watch a video named ( 7 pretrib problems and the prewrath rapture) its a revelation.
And Jesus is The Lord the Son of God the Almighty Lord God.The Son of Man.Nobody knows the time are hour not even the Angel's in heaven but my Father knows when his returning happens.
The peace treaty was just made, so shouldn't we be going fairly soon?!!!!
The Restraining the Lawlessness one because of the Holy Spirit on earth and the Holy Spirit has not been taken off the earth and is in Christian's and will remain till more conversions to Christ on earth people believe and recieve Jesus Christ.
Know one knows but the The Lord himself the Father then that means Jesus himself knows because he is with the Father God.Thusfor he would know when he is coming back.
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1 Corinthians 15:51-55 King James Version (KJV)
Says it all too :D Amen !! We feel its REAL SOON !!! Alellujah !!
Amen We Must NOT fall out on this issue , Amen to that also Amen !!
( Paul MUST have got this mystery from God !! Amen! ALL Scripture is Divinely Inspired ! Amen !) And if this was NOT supposed to be in The Infallible Word of God , it wouldn't be there , Paul fully expected this in his own lifetime !! It obviously wasnt in his lifetime , but he knew we were going to be caught up into Heaven at some point ! )
51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,
52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,
52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.
54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.
55 O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory?
These verses describe the return of Christ at His second coming. It is the last day of earths history event.
The church itself will go through the tribulation. The bible tells us that probation closes at the beginning of the tribulation of the plagues. Which means from this point the saved are saved and the lost are lost forever. There is no 7 year tribulation. No more switching sides. No one gets left behind. The saved will be caught up when Jesus returns and the lost will be destroyed on that same day. No such thing as a second chance, it's not biblical.
as i understand you state that the rapture and 2nd coming are both ends of the same event. please explain this: remove the epistles of Paul, (Rom-Phi) which includes the rapture of the body of Christ, from the bible. the difference explains the 2nd coming is for Israel’s redemption. what happens to the body of Christ?
have you ever come across something called 'the greater exodus' as an alternative to the rapture of the church?
@@SustainableEnslavementAgenda -sorry no, i have not.
Thank you. How can we as believers be ready? How can we get ready?
WE are to love for God. Read His word, obey it, pray, love God and love people, forsake sin, and walk in His grace. Blessings!
@@DavidGuzikEnduringWord THANK YOU. I'm loving listening to your teaching, the palms each day n many more (prayer in Roots series tonight) n learning so much n knowing n loving God more. I pray for you that He keeps filling you as you fill me, so that I'm loving n obeying n being His slave more. Thanks for the answer, that'll keep me busy and walking in His spirit to 'achieve'. Thanks and prayers for you.
The after the millenium 1000 years when the devil is turned loose again from the abyss from the pit then Magog and Gog will happen.
The Holy Spirit is still on earth and the lawless one the man of perdition the AntiChrist has not been revealed.But their are many believers that Antichrist already.
Wrong. No where does God ever teach that nonbelievers go through tribulation. Tribulation in every single instance was always for believers. Wrath is always for non believers.
Yes Wrath is only to the wicked unrighteous unrepentant.
We know this because of what God told Abraham in Genesis chapter 18 ( in short ) I will not destroy the righteous with the wicked .
There are 2 separate causes of Tribulation.
Man on man tribulations , John 16 v 33 (abridged ). In the world ye shall have tribulation : .& , 2 Tim 3 v 12 Yea , and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution.
Then there is God to man Tribulation , speaking to the time of , Jacobs Trouble , what we refer as the Tribulation , Matthew 24 v 21 For then shall be great tribulation , v 29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days , Mark 13 v 19 For in those days shall be affliction , v 24 But in those days , after that tribulation ,this is because of the Wrath of God upon an unrepentant world , and it is God's wrath that causes Tribulation ( cause and effect) .
@@nzbrotrev9028 nope
Then that would be after.
the only reason for the tribulation is the redemption of Gods chosen people, Israel. the body of Christ has no context in the tribulation or the prophecies of Revelation. it’s “Jacobs trouble”, Daniels 70th week for His people! the body of Christ is not the bride, new jerusalem is. the wedding will be in jerusalem.
But there is Good News because Tribulations are gifts and tokens of salvation and not the wrath of God. You are ignorant of your purpose in Christ Jesus and there is all HOPE) Mat 5:10 BLESSED are they which are PERSECUTED for righteousness' sake: FOR THEIRS IS THE kingdom of heaven. Mat 5:11 BLESSED are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute YOU, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake Mat 5:12 Rejoice, and be exceeding GLAD: for GREAT is your REWARD IN HEAVEN: for so PERSECUTED they the prophets which were before you. Co 1:4 Who COMFORTETH US IN ALL OUR TRIBULATIONS, that we may be able TO COMFORT them WHICH ARE in any trouble, BY the comfort wherewith we ourselves are COMFORTED OF GOD. 2Co 1:6 And whether we be AFFLICTED, IT IS FOR your consolation AND SALVATION, which is effectual in the ENDURING of the SAME sufferings which we ALSO SUFFER: or whether we be comforted, it is for your consolation AND SALVATION. 2Co 1:7 And our hope of you is STEDFAST, knowing, that as ye are PARTAKERS OF THE SUFFERINGS, so shall YE BE ALSO OF the CONSOLATION. Th 1:4 So that WE ourselves GLORY in you in the CHURCHES of God for YOUR patience and faith IN ALL YOUR persecutions AND TRIBULATIONS that ye ENDURE: 2Th 1:5 Which is a MANIFEST TOKEN OF the righteous judgment of God, that ye MAY BE COUNTED WORTHY of the kingdom of God, FOR WHICH ye also SUFFER: Phl 1:28 And IN NOTHING terrified by your adversaries: which is TO THEM an evident TOKEN OF perdition, BUT TO YOU OF SALVATION, and THAT OF GOD. Phl 1:29 For unto you it is GIVEN in the behalf of Christ, NOT ONLY TO BELIEVE on him, BUT ALSO TO SUFFER FOR his sake; 1Pe 4:13 But REJOICE, inasmuch as ye ARE PARTAKERS OF Christ's SUFFERINGS; THAT, WHEN his glory shall BE revealed, ye MAY BE glad ALSO with exceeding JOY.2 Ti 2:12 IF WE suffer, WE SHALL ALSO reign with him: IF WE deny him, HE ALSO will deny us:. Act 5:41 And they departed from the presence of the council, REJOICING that they were COUNTED WORTHY TO suffer shame FOR HIS NAME. Rom 8:17 And IF children, THEN heirs; heirs of God, AND joint-heirs with Christ; IF SO BE THAT WE SUFFER WITH HIM, THAT WE MAY BE ALSO glorified together. Act 14:22 Confirming the souls of the disciples, and exhorting them to CONTINUE IN THE FAITH, AND that WE MUST through MUCH tribulation ENTER INTO the kingdom of God. Rom 8:36 As it is WRITTEN, For thy sake we are KILLED all the day long; WE are ACCOUNTED as sheep for the SLAUGHTER Th 3:3 That no man should be moved by these AFFLICTIONS: for yourselves know that WE ARE APPOINTED thereunto. (I can go on with scriptures which are like these but this should suffice.)
the new covenant will start in the millennium and does not include the body of Christ. it is written to Israel and Judah only. (Heb8:8)
Jim, I'm going to respectfully disagree with you on this one!
David Guzik-the text is straight forward! can you not understand Hebrews 8:8?
For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah:
this is Heb 8:8 KJV. please explain how i misread it!
Your false teaching teaches, that the tribulation is the wrath of God. No one is saved, by the wrath of God and when it starts the scriptures, say they will not escape. How can the tribulation, be the wrath of God, if it ends before the Lord comes? (The Lord Jesus ends the tribulation, before the signs in the heavens and Jesus comes after the signs, then He comes, which is the day of the Lord.) Mat 24:22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh BE SAVED: but for the elect's sake those days shall BE SHORTENED. Mat 24:29 Immediately AFTER THE TRIBULATION of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: Mat 24:30 AND THEN shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: AND THEN shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, AND THEY shall SEE the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.Act 2:20 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, BEFORE that great and notable DAY OF the Lord COME: Act 2:21 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall BE SAVED. ( Just like in Revelations of Jesus Christ chapter 6, the fifth seal happens, which speaks of the tribulation and must be fulfilled, before the signs in the heavens 6th seal and then the wrath 7th seal.
The FIRST resurrection is after the tribulation and when the dead in Christ rise FIRST and those that are alive at that time, will not prevent this ever.)Dan 12:2
And many of them THAT SLEEP in the dust of the earth shall AWAKE, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.1Th 4:15
For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto THE COMING of the Lord SHALL NOT PREVENT THEM which ARE ASLEEP.
Reproof DAYS of Noah - Mat 24:39 And knew not until the FLOOD came, and TOOK THEM ALL AWAY (SAME TIME); so shall also THE COMING of the Son of man BE. (Pre-trib.’s false interpretation of the days of Noah, as if nothing was going on, which is not true. The meaning is they did not believe and continued, as if it was not going to happen but what was going on? The end of the world at that time and not just, eating, drinking and marrying, as Pre-trib., would falsely lead you to believe.) Gen 6:5 And GOD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart WAS ONLY evil continually. Gen 6:12 And God looked upon the earth, and, behold, it was CORRUPT; for ALL FLESH had CORRUPTED his way upon the earth Gen 6:13 And God said unto Noah, The END OF ALL FLESH IS COME before me; for the earth is FILLED with VIOLENCE THROUGH THEM; and, behold, I will DESTROY THEM with the earth. (Falsely dividing days of Noah) Mat 24:37 But as THE DAYS of Noe were, so shall ALSO the COMING of the Son of man BE. Mat 24:39 And knew not until the FLOOD came, and took THEM ALL AWAY; so shall ALSO the coming of the Son of man BE. Gen 7:17 And THE FLOOD was FORTY DAYS upon the earth; AND the WATERS increased, AND BARE UP the ark, AND IT WAS LIFT UP above the earth. Gen 7:18 AND the waters PREVAILED, and were INCREASED greatly upon the earth; AND THE ark went UPON the face of THE WATERS. (In this parable the Lord Jesus likens His coming to DAYS of Noah and the flood took them all away. The righteous and the wicked at the same time and the Ark did not move for forty days. A whole lot of things and people, animals perished before the huge ark loaded with all the animals and Noah’s family was lifted up. In all the parables likened, to the coming of the Son of man. The righteous and wicked are punished or rewarded, at the same time. No other time in between. Lot’s wife perished after she left the city and It is on the same day, night, hour or flood and not years apart. Only nine verses before this the Lord Jesus tells, you, that His coming is after the tribulation.
Pre-tribulation rapture is not in the Bible. Jesus said He would return, that is one event. The rapture occurs at the Second Coming.
If that's the case , who is here when you'll get back .
@@nzbrotrev9028 the Church is on Earth when Jesus returns.
Mark 13:24 - 27
“But in those days, AFTER THE TRIBULATION, the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light, and the stars will be falling from heaven, and the powers in the heavens will be shaken. And then they will see the Son of Man coming in clouds with great power and glory. And then he will send out the angels and GATHER HIS ELECT from the four winds, FROM THE ENDS OF THE EARTH to the ends of heaven.
@amcds2867 The Church is raptured , the Bible clearly teaches that we meet the Lord in the air , the Bible clearly teaches us that we come back with Him , so who is here when we get back.
@@nzbrotrev9028 I've given you Scripture showing the contrary of what you just typed.
@@amcds2867 NO , all you have shown , is THEY will see Him coming , who is THEY. ,
1 Thessalonians 4 v 17. Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught ( Raptured ) up together with them in the clouds , to meet the Lord in the air : .
That tells us , were taken UP , removed off the earth in to the sky .
Then .
Jude 14 Behold , the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his Saints.
We go up according to scripture , we come back down with Christ according to scripture.
So then tell us who is here when we get back , following the post Tribulation narrative.
We know that the wicked are removed , Matthew 24 v 40 41 Luke 17 v 34 35 36 ( one taken the other left ) , so if by reason , the wicked are removed first that should leave only the saved , to be Raptured up to meet the Lord .
Now your problem is , there is no one here to enter in to the Millennium.
If you say ,no we're here when He gets back , that makes No sense , the scripture teaches us that we will , rule and reign with Christ .
Revelation 1 v 6 And He hath made us kings and priests unto God and his Father ; . abridged.
Revelation 5 v 10. And hast made us unto our God kings and priests : and we shall REIGN on the earth .
The bottom line is , there needs to be somebody here when we get back , to reign over .
Who is it and where did they come from .
Pre-Trib can show you
Rapture? The only Rapture I know of (in history or holly writ) was
Enoch, Elijah and according to the Zohar Moses. And of course Jesus
Christ after he was killed.
Christ, after he rose again on the third day
Isa 40:5 And THE GLORY of the LORD shall BE REVEALED, and ALL FLESH SHALL SEE IT TOGETHER: for the mouth of the LORD hath SPOKEN IT Luk 17:30 Even thus shall it be in THE DAY WHEN the Son of man IS REVEALED. ((You believe lies and have been deceived. Show one verse that says, just Christians will see Jesus coming but I know you cannot and I tell you the truth, when we see Jesus again it will be in all His glory Period.)) Mat 24:30 And then shall APPEAR the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they SHALL SEE the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and GREAT GLORY. Tit 2:13 LOOKING FOR that blessed hope, and THE GLORIOUS appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ; Col 3:4 When Christ, who is our life, shall APPEAR, then shall ye ALSO appear WITH HIM IN GLORY. 2Th 1:7 And to you who are troubled REST WITH US, WHEN the Lord Jesus shall be REVEALED FROM heaven WITH HIS mighty ANGELS, 2Th 1:10 WHEN he shall come to be GLORIFIED in his SAINTS, and to be admired IN ALL them that believe (because our testimony among you was believed ) in that DAY.((( Paul, writes of day and tells us to wait, for WHEN the Lord Jesus is revealed, this is when ALL are glorified. What coming WITH angels is he referring to? If you cannot answer, this question honestly you are deceived )))) 2Ti 4:1 I CHARGE THEE therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall JUDGE the quick AND the dead AT HIS APPEARING AND HIS kingdom; Rev 11:15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of THIS WORLDS ARE BECOME the KINGDOMS OF our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.
How can the tribulation, be the wrath of God, if it ends before the Lord comes? (The Lord Jesus ends the tribulation, before the signs in the heavens and Jesus comes after the signs, then He comes, which is the day of the Lord.) Mat 24:22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh BE SAVED: but for the elect's sake those days shall BE SHORTENED. Mat 24:29 Immediately AFTER THE TRIBULATION of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: Mat 24:30
AND THEN shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: AND THEN shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, AND THEY shall SEE the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.Act 2:20 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, BEFORE that great and notable DAY OF the Lord COME: Act 2:21 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall BE SAVED. ( Just like in Revelations of Jesus Christ chapter 6, the fifth seal happens, which speaks of the tribulation and must be fulfilled, before the signs in the heavens 6th seal and then the wrath 7th seal.
Reproof - Not under wrath. Why pretrib. is wrong tribulation is not the wrath of God) 1Th 5:9 For
God hath not appointed US TO WRATH, but to OBTAIN salvation by our Lord Jesus
Christ, Rom 5:9 Much more then, being now justified BY HIS BLOOD, we shall be
saved FROM WRATH through him. ( Not appointed to wrath one of pre-trib. catch all phrases but 1 Thess. 5:9 is
written to those looking, for the day of the Lord, in which Pre-trib and Post-trib.
agree this is after the tribulation, so they are saved from the wrath and
receive salvation. (Those of the
tribulation are justified by His blood are saved from wrath, and receive
salvation) Rom 5:9 Much more then, being now justified BY HIS BLOOD, we shall
be SAVED FROM WRATH through him. Rev 7:14 And I said unto him, Sir, thou
knowest. And he said to me, These are they which CAME OUT OF great tribulation,
and have washed their robes, and made them white in the BLOOD OF the Lamb Rev
12:11 And they overcame him BY THE BLOOD OF the Lamb, and by the word of their
testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death. ( Read Rev. 12 God is
not pouring His wrath out, on the woman but is protecting, feeding and helping
the woman. (All these are justified by His blood and are saved from wrath and
receive salvation. )
If it's post Trib , who's removed first , the wicked or righteous.
@@nzbrotrev9028 Reproof DAYS of Noah- You have been taught lies and need to repent and ask the Lord Jesus Christ, who come in the flesh yet He is without sin for His truths and receive it from Him and not men. Reproof - Noah, Lot etc. are not a pre-trib. rapture verses. The Lord Jesus is talking of the second coming and did not suddenly change subjects and he never mentioned anything to do with a pre-tribulation rapture.. He gives rewards to the righteous and the unrighteous at SAME time I.e. Noah was rewarded righteousness; he was not drowned or saved but the unrighteous were killed or lost. SAME with wheat and tares, one left or one taken and the same day Lot was saved and the city destroyed; all the examples are at the SAME time, whether it is day, night or hour and not seven or any years apart; that is judgment; Pre-trib. says this doesn't happen at their false rapture and the reason it is not the second coming. All the examples are of judgment and the days of Noah are exactly that the flood took them all away; the righteous and the wicked at the same time. Reproof- days of Noah. They deceive you by saying, see nothing is really going on before the flood eating, drinking and marrying, which is a lie, Read Gen. 6-7 for yourself and the reason for the flood is not, because they were just eating and drinking and marrying. They wrongly divide the days of Noah. (Gen 7:17) It took forty days for the ark to move and longer to cover the mountains I.e a lot of destruction happened before the ark ever moved. Question: who is there to save after the flood?
@@thetruthimpart 100 % correct , Noah , Lot , are NOT pre or mid or post Trib verses , I Never said they were , my question doesn't even suggest that , so now you tell us , who is taken and who is left , for those not familiar to this , Matthew 24 v 40 41 & Luke 17 v 34 35 36 .
@@nzbrotrev9028 it still happens at same time; same flood took them all away i.e. the coming of the Son of man then both are separated; one is saved the other is not saved or one perishes and one does not.
@@nzbrotrev9028 Same as wheat and tares parable at harvest everything in the field is reaped and then separated at same time and the reapers are not making two trips to the field. Everything is being cut or pulled then separated but only wheat is saved.