Underwater Fly Orientation

Video shows how different types of flies orient underwater.
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[@OldDominionTroutBum]

Great video. Amazing how many people think the flies ride parallel to the bottom.

[@lastcoyote2355]

Your somewhat correct. If you add weight to your tippet , say 6 to 18” from your nymph it will drop your leader below your nymph therefore making the fly ride more parallel to the current. I have tested this theory and it works .

[@lastcoyote2355]

@Mark Devey great point . I think and I haven’t testified it but I would think a tungsten bead versus just a plain bead may be different as well

[@lastcoyote2355]

I do know that a mop fly drifts head down

[@jamesvatter5729]

Now this one does make me feel "silly", as you stated, Tim. I always thought the jigged perdigon wingcase was wrong because I assumed (we all know what that can do!) it looked upside down.

[@OpportunityFishing]

Great video! I started tying balanced flies last year quite a bit with this in mind. A bruised balanced leech is now one of my top 3 flies for stillwater trout!

[@erikb547]

I have been wanting to try that exact video for a looooong time. In my head I knew if anyone could pull it off, it was Tim Flagler. Well done.

[@charlieboutin3341]

Thanks for showing this. I mostly fish streamers and have wondered a lot about their orientation also. Many videos show them with wing opposite the open side of hook and bent eye angle. I thought they may swim “upside down” with wing on bottom with hook point up and have wanted to test my theory. I do use lots of Clousers and the lead eyes make them swim hook point up. Really appreciate your information and tips! 👍

[@whitechin99]

Clousers 👍👍👍

[@grantmagee9071]

It’s all about the angle of the dangle!

[@eha11oran]

You make a good case for swinging wet flies, Tim! The orientation of the fly would be more natural but how natural is the swing in your opinion?

[@mikegael6623]

Nice video. These flies are suspended under an indicator and it works for the guys that fish that way or use a dry/dropper rig. Many nymphers do not use an indicator and fish more than one fly, which I think will to change the way the fly drifts. Can you do a video for that way to?

[@rayray8212]

This would be the orientation if you are fishing "dry dropper" or with indicator. Could be different if fishing 2 or 3 nymphs euro style or more turbulent waters IMHO......

[@Bneumanns124]

Especially for the nymphs at the trailing end.

[@fishingninja]

in still water I've had that my nymph was actually going through the water in the orientation it normally sits in your tying vise

[@jacobstarr9010]

The key to prevent this on weighted nymphs is keep all the weight as close to the bead or eye as possible. I did this and noticed my prince nymphs are in a more horizontal position

[@davehall2160]

Thanks Tim

[@jimholland1592]

Wow! Never seen that before very informative👍

[@vinnygallo2669]

That’s very interesting I didn’t realize that the flies are vertical! Do the naturals do about the same or no?

[@aidandibenerdini4545]

I think they point up at a diagonal as nymphs try to swim to the surface to molt but I’ve never seen any nymphs swim vertically

[@AkFlyFishersmembers]

Balanced flies, then?

[@tightlinevideo]

Stay tuned.

[@gooddoggo2258]

So do the trout key in on the nymph drifting at an unnatural angle and not bite it?

[@SkroomJuice]

It depends if you’re “the fly” or “the presentation” mindset. If the former, no; if the latter, absolutely.

[@yoursweatersux]

Makes you think that if you could weight a fly to ride horizontally it might potentially fish better...

[@SmokeumPeacepipe]

Balanced patterns