odds & primes & evens
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- Опубліковано 23 січ 2025
- About the music: This is a piece in “Just Intonation” and you might call it “Spectralism”. over time I’m planning on covering a lot of stuff about that and microtonality in general but in the meantime, why not check out these resources:
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About the notation: I’ll go into this more later, but for now the notation system is called the Helmholtz Ellis Just Intonation System and you can read about it here: marsbat.space/... and here: marsbat.space/...
finally, the pro-level chords
I played this on my guitar and then the temperament police showed up
so true you guys should also learn the 13:25:38:49:63:78:99:🐟🐟:133 chord its super useful in daily application it will impress ur friends
I wanna know what the 13:25:38:49:63:78:99:🐟🐟:133 chord is
Fish-limit JI is my favorite. So catchy! You just need to bring the bait.
ah yes, my favorite II-V-I progression
these chords were so good it made my computer explode and now i have to buy a new one
Those stacked primes were SHIMMERING.
I love your videos so much. Soooo many cool tones and chords and relationships and harmonies
these really helped on the gig tonight! Thanks Mannfishh, I think I'm getting the call back - fingers crossed
Some of these chords definitely have to be on my top 10 favorite advanced music theory things such as the minor blues and pentatonic scales.
Oh @Tantacrul ,Is this a Pro-Level-chord on your midi pack?
Finally got the gig after learning. these chords. Thanks fishman!!!!
So true!
The first two are to me as a Christopher Nolan movie is to a person who doesn’t get why people enjoy Christopher Nolan movies.
The third one…. I love!!!
I love how the algorithm is gonna bring everyone to this video based on the title
Yep quite a clever title. I had a sneaky feeling it wouldn't be quite as obvious as it sounded! 😂
AWESOME!!
With just 3 chords, you can learn 100 songs on the piano...wait, what? Oh.
The first one is a bohlen-pierce major chord, add bp 12, add tritave, add 11/3. Second one (primes) is unironically interesting. The last one is literally the harmonic series cord without the root note lol, good meme.
This is just wonderful 😍😍
what do all the numbers mean
I feel like an IDIOT for not using these in everything !!
Love it!
thank you
Can anyone explain why the relationship between the harmonics and the primes are important? Also non-prime chords, too
Relative primes are group generators of each other. Because of this, they form complex harmonics with each other.
I mean the top note creates a nice enclosure type resolution. Prettyyyyy
Non-prime evens? I thought there was only one even prime?
First two chords are amazing and I haven't thought of this sort of arrangement as relevant before
That doesn't mean non prime-evens isn't an accurate description, even if it's trivial.
@@doesthishavetobearealname7647 I guess, but then why not reduce the ratios?
if the fundamental is 1, the 4th harmonic is still the 4th harmonic@@stavats
@@mannfishhOf course it is, I agree. My comment is regarding our ability to tell that. That chord is perceptually indistinguishable from its reduced form. There is no context to enforce a perception of that bottom note as the fourth harmonic. Or am I missing something?
@@stavats the context is obviously the preceding chords
oh no
oh yes
Can't wait to use C♯(+43.5¢)ℋ[Primes] chord
What is the second chord?
Wowwwwww the third one
So do the numbers indicate how many cents they are above equal temperament?
the numbers indicate the ratios of the notes to one another
@nickclark6545 I don't understand, each note has a number so is the number the ratio of the note above or the note below? And the ratio is using cents as a measurement? Is equal temperament the baseline for measurement? Or is this all based off of the overtone series?
@@joshvigranmusicgreat questions... Im.in the same boat 😂
@joshvigranmusic @ricardochiesa9829 yeah it’s definitely a little confusing, i’ve had to spend a good amount of time really thinking about it to try and understand. for one, this is all just intonation which is completely based off the harmonic series, the numbers have nothing to do with equal temperament. the numbers are based on the ratios between all the notes. so for example with the first chord. the frequencies of the first two notes relate to each other the same way that 9 relates to 15. this is the same with the other notes, you can pick any two notes and see how they relate to each other. another example, you can see that the note with a 27 is 3 times the root note which is 9. this relationship is that of a perfect 5th. multiply any frequency by 3 and you get a perfect fifth an octave higher. i hope this helps. like i said i really had to sit down and think some things through and i still do tbh
@nickclark6545 ok that makes a bit more sense thanks! But still I have questions haha, would be great to see a video explaining how the ratios work with one another
Is it me, or is the 33rd harmonic sharp?
i dont think so! i checked it with a spectogram and also against a tuned sawtooth and it seems fine
@@mannfishh I probably did not give enough detail. What I meant was the 33rd harmonic note in the odd non-prime (composite) harmonics to me almost sounds to me nearly like the 35th harmonic (962.5 Hz) which is close to a B quarter-flat (B syntonic-comma down + septimal-comma down) of the fundamental 27.5Hz or A. The 33rd harmonic should have a frequency of 907.5Hz (A undecimal-comma up). Are you sure that the note is correctly tuned?
Maan. It is good! What software should I use to do some experiments with these chords?
Dorico as far as I know.
@@kuretaxyz Thank you so much!
Bro, this is scary as fuck.
I feel like this is a jab at someone specific lol
Btw: what's your thoughts on the composer Charles Ives?
Riemann chords
Ah, yeah, every day play this chords on my guitar
i knew it
You woke up Grand ma. She loved Neil Diamond & the 1st chord of the Hot August Night album. Now we have to settle her down. Thanks for nothing a-hole.
evens are just 1:2:3:4:5 etc 🤷♂️
thats right
@@mannfishh sorry, i had to be that guy 😅
@@G8tr1522 not at all, it was silly of me not to put the reduced numbers in paranthesis, i usually do