Intro to Just Intonation: Ear Training, General Advice, Minor Intervals
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
- I hate to be corny and ask for comments here but this is a situation where I really want to know what you guys think - are these ear training videos useful to you and do you want to see more of them? Unlike a lot of my videos which I just do for my own sort of sick pleasure, these are meant to be helpful to YOU, so if they’re not, if no one is getting any use out of them, then I might as well stop and do something more useful or fun. Please let me know! (And I know what a lot of you really want is software tutorials - don’t worry we’ll talk about that later XD )
Minor Intervals: 2:08
List of Ear Training/Musicianship/Aural Skills Textbooks (Not All Necessarily Read or Endorsed by Me But they Seem good lol):
Solfege, Ear Training, Rhythm, Dictation, and Music Theory: A Comprehensive Course by Marta Arkossy Ghezzo
Musician's Guide to Aural Skills by Phillips, Murphy, Clendinning and Marvin
The Complete Musician by Steven G Laitz
and MORE!
You bring up an interesting point about the root and the fundamental not being the same in the minor scale. The otonal and utonal duality is a really underrated theory and framework.
Personally I really like this series because it holds a space for people to practice something I think most JI people get around to one way or another. Of course we have to start with lower primes (also 3 limit ear training would go so crazy shoutout 243) but I would freak out for a video like this with higher primes. I think one of the main benefits of a video like this is introducing some really archetypal sounds of a prime limit, which is something people discover on their own but having like an almanac of characteristic intervals is so so so nice.
Would love to see your workflow in the daw, I'm especially interested in how you make your pieces sound less like notation software playback and more like actual music (rhythmic and dynamic subtleties). And lowkey like maybe an orchestration lesson because your instrument/ sound choices are rad.
... it is not so crazy to shout out 243, 243:256 is after 8:9 the second principal interval in the gregorian system. All other intervals a derivates. i would apreciate a video abt what you could call "gregorian continuum" ;-)
@@sbseg “___ would go crazy” is just an expression that means something would be really cool :)
i've been really enjoying going through your videos with my violin in hand and playing along to improve my ear and intonation. I would love to learn a process to create JI pieces with software instruments and then overdub violin/viola to add that touch. I would love to know your process with software, but also need help understanding the theory.
More of these please!
there will be! the next one should be very interesting
GRAHH!!! I wish i could have been there but its RIGHT SMACK in the muddle of my school day! Although i might be able to see some of it live, maybe...
I teach sight singing including a unit on 'microtonality' and these videos are crazy helpful to me as a student and teacher. THANK YOU -- also one quick question: do you find the tone you are using around 3:00 and forward with its very prominent 2nd harmonic to be helpful? [Er, or maybe it's my laptop speakers haha . . .]
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This is like the third video he's spoken in.
That's Gustav Mahler
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How do you figure the fundamentals for minor? And if you say “eb” is that based off 12 tones equally dividing the octave (ie; the diff between G fundamental to Eb fundamental). Thanks, I’m finding your videos helpful. Trying to understand the logic for tuning these scales since it seems you could do it a million ways
Well lets start here: are you familiar with the harmonic series?
@@mannfishh hi Mannfishh, yes. I understand that there are two primary forces. One is the movement of the fundamental to somewhere in, erhm, pitch space. And for each fundamental there exists a harmonic series, some natural phenomenon that, for every sounding fundamental note, produces the same relative intervals off the fundamental. Those vary slightly when compared to a twelve tone system and folks would say that they sound more in tune. And there are perhaps (theoretically) an infinite number of notes in the series (?)
Ok, I figured out my confusion. So, Bb would be a 6/5 ratio, which is found over fundamental Eb. C is 4/3 ratio which G to C exists over C fundamental as 4/3, etc
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@@mannfishh ok cool. Thank you for your response
you asked for comments so I'm leaving one, but I don't think I am a good representative of your audience in general - I know nothing about music and am unlikely to learn from these videos; I just watch and listen because I think they're neat
maybe I'll be inspired sometime to really try to learn something and then I'll revisit this series, or maybe by listening to enough of it something will just 'click', but that isn't the goal for me
whoa
Kirk Hammett struggles with the notes in between
Thank you mannfish! more of these videos would be much appreciated, im practicing with them daily:)
Love these videos! I sing in choirs quite a bit and its nice to have these harmonic immersion videos around to introduce and reinforce the idea that certain intervals can be modified within context to tune chords according to their function or the desired affect. Then there's the basic benefit of being able to sharpen one's threshold for what sounds, and can be identified as, out of tune.
Just... Thank you. ❤
what a fantastic video and a fantastic series, thank you!
yeah
I like the concept, but I find it hard to work on just intonation tuning since I just match to the tuning of the note that's playing. Maybe something where the listener sings/plays the note themselves and then the video plays it after and you can compare to see if you were tuning justly would be more helpful?
Works for me, it's actually more practical then hearing the right answer after every interval, be well.
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