Just letting people know I made a little mistake when talking about the Down-b hitbox at 10:25. The "Normal version" version is actually notably smaller, and both those hitboxes I showed are for the successful counter. For some reason there are two almost identical versions of them. If you want to see the real visual you can view it here: ultimateframedata.com/sephiroth.php. Sorry about the info in the video not being correct.
Incredibly amused by the fact that Sephiroth has the same weight as Kirby, and there is absolutely no explanation for this other than ‘because he would have been unstoppable otherwise’.
I think this is also another form of balancing as well. From the ending lag of his moves to his One Wing, his weight had to have been adjusted just so he's under Ultimate's "fair ground".
@@a_soup_can I mean, when you put it like that, MewTwo floats due to his psychic power so it shouldn't really affect the fact that he should be much heavier
Fun fact: The amount of orbs that side b spawns is actually derivative of the amount of damage it deals. I reflected a fully charged side b once and Sephiroth got all 5 orbs around him
I thought that too, but it's actually a unique property it gets from being reflected. I tried using it with and without spirits, but no matter what, a fully charged side B will always have 3 orbs if done from sephiroth, slight charge will have 2, and no charge has zero. It gets reflected in a unique manner by getting more orbs based on the power increase from the reflector, not based on the damage from the move itself.
I'm not complaining, he still op, and I think the smash community is fine with Sephiroth of all characters being broken then some fucking rat that gives you a little zing
The traditional Final Fantasy big bair. You know, traditional. With the one other Final Fantasy character. They both have big swords. I don't know what you think a bair would be when that's their main weapon.
Also his run animation, they both do that glide across the ground. Octoslash and cross slash also have some similarities. Makes sense since they both originate from the same game.
The sliding down tilt should be dubbed the "DLC down tilt" since Joker, Hero, Min Min, Sephiroth, and kind of Banjo have it, which is at least half of the DLC characters as of now.
@crystalblade13 if you continuously use Banjo’s down tilt at the left edge of battlefield facing right, it won’t take him much time to get to the other side using only down tilt
@@seabassthegamer6644 I love Kirby till I remember he's killed like 15 different omnipotent beings. Tbh I'd be more scared of Kirby walking up on me then anyone else in smash
PKBeats tested out His winged form in both normal battle and in training mode. It actually does work the same in both modes. The reason it doesn't seem to work correctly is because apparently Training mode counts the CPU stocks and doesn't reset the stock count until you go back to the character select screen, resetting position does not cause the stock count to reset.
@@mouthwide0pen I tend to miss space on my phones keyboard and add random periods instead. So sometimes letters get auto capitalized and I don't notice until after I send the message. The I didn't think it was that important to edit and fix it.
This video is false. You say it covers the whole sword but if you look closely, a few inches of the tip aren't covered which greatly hurts sephy's range. Cant believe this inaccuracy. Please Sakurai fix this character.
A surprising thing to add about Sephiroth's counter is that it can be reflected. This is most notable in the matchup against Pit/Dark Pit due to their side specials being attacks you would want to counter, but can't since they're also reflectors for some reason.
@@chordalharmony I just read this and thought "that can't be right." However, after checking up on this, I stand corrected. I suspect I was under this misconception because usually when this move deflects a projectile, Pit continues to slam his fist into my face. Thanks for the tip!
@@juanmanuelestrada9597 Is interesting to punish his side b with counters and reflectors when timed properly, but seems more difficult each day since they become more aware of that
I really do feel like that, tbh. Obviously most of the inspiration comes from Advent Children but there’s also some clear Kingdom Hearts design choices, especially the one wing
This is cool and all but I *NEED* King K. Rool's Klunky hitboxes, you cannot run from me forever, getting visuals to figure out why BAir and Up Tilt just whiffs at times will make me happy
thin with low active frames. Bair lasts for about 3 frames total and utilt launcher only lasts for 2 frame with a thin lasting hitbox. It doesn't help that bair is p slow. While i can't speak for utlt, Bair is still a really good move if you're precise with it, and if you're whiffing its not exactly the move's fault rather than just your's.
I'm gonna be honest, I expected up smash to have some really egregious hitbox interpolation due to it being such a huge sword being swung so fast. I'm pleasantly surprised it doesn't have the same problem as Ganondorf's forward smash. Poor prince of darkness.
@@jamesgosling8491 It's explained better in Rekzius' Ganondorf video, but in essence, the hitboxes will stretch to connect between 2 frames. However, Ganondorf and Banjo have very large differences between 2 of the frames of their f smashes, so the hitboxes stretch in a way that they don't match the visuals.
@@YounesLayachi I will only recognize my favorite villain as King when he can manage to crawl his way up from the low tiers and stop losing to some long eared boy in a silly hat.
I was thinking maybe the dialogue spoken then was perhaps a FE6 reference. But I can't recall that line being from Binding Blade lol Maybe she can ferry Sephiroth to the seize point just like with Roy xD
I need someone to make a meme out of that Cat in the Hat scene where he has a baseball bat and is about to whack a child with it. Except the Cat in the Hat is Sephiroth, the baseball bat is the sword, and the child is Galeem.
Imagine if they add a monster hunter with all 14 weapons, with each weapon changing your tilts, smashes, and aerials, and being toggled on the Character select screen like Pokémon trainer
Can we mention that Octoslash has a swing speed of 1 swing per two frames (without hit--pause for effect ingame), so this implies that Sephiroth's octoslash can swing 30 times PER SECOND?! That's faster than General Grievous's swing speed of 20 times per second, and he has 4 fucking swords that have little to no weight!
Dude, sometimes I'm baffled by how some of my attacks miss tbh. Obviously I just need to get better, but the visuals definitely make it seem like an attack will hit.
From what I have gathered/read, Sephi's Winged Form goes off the same equation as Aura, and only triggers once his "Aura" would mette out 125% increase (Lucario's absolute cap being ~200% means this is a little over halfway Aura), once activated it only turns off once Sephi dies, or he KO's an opponent and the new presenting Aura equation puts him below the threshold to activate/maintain the wing.
There’s a really stupid combo with Sephiroth I’ve found where you can d-tilt and if you hit it on the tail end of the move you, from what I’ve done, combo into up-tilt. It’s - not very practical, and not even very consistent, but I love how even the most evil and terrifying characters can have some dumb stuff to do with him.
(1:10) Remember that training mode is a team battle on time, set to infinite, and with team attack off. You sure the wing doesn't behave the same as in a versus match of this kind? Also remember to never change the percentage in training mode, since that might affect the variables.
something i always found strange about seph's down B is that IF scintilla gets broken, he's for some unknown reason.. completely invincible during the stagger. to the point ike's eruption, which is one of the few moves that actually reach seph during that time, doesn't hit
I recall thinking that the counter being broken was actually a tad more useful than using it the normal way, especially after reading the attack portion is a projectile and can be reflected
Put him in the hands of those tournament players who play with their controller's upside-down with only to fingers actually playing, and you'll get to feel true dispair
fun fact: the amount of shadow orb you get is actualy depending on how much damage the original hit does, as seen when it gets reflected you'll get more orbs on yourself
9:25 Now, the endlag on that move if you land with it is even worse that Up-Air's. Like, if you shield Octoslash, you can punish Sephiroth with THUNDER. RAW THUNDER. And given how light Sephiroth is... Yeah.
Sephiroth is actually pretty honest for a DLC character. The comeback mechanic really isn't going to push your advantage much when you're winning. Most sword characters have such generous hitboxes they don't even have to face the right way to get a hit while Sephiroth's stay within reason. And his counter needs you to face the right way AND it can break? You can't get away with being a dumb masher on this character, and it's great. I wish other sword characters were balanced like this.
Nintendo: ok sakurai, what is the next character for super smash brothers Sakurai: Sepheroth! Nintendo: nooo you can’t do that! There are already two long range dlcs Sakurai: haha long range go brrrrrr
The way wing works to leave after getting a ko is when someone dies, the threshold of wing changes, and if your percent isn't in the threshold change damage percent, it goes away
An explanation of Sephiroth being such a lightweight is *(SPOILERS AHEAD IF YOU HAVEN'T PLAYED FFVII DON'T LOOK DOWN BELOW)* By FFVII he's actually dead, during the Nibelheim incident (also covered in Crisis Core) he dies while fighting Cloud, he falls into the Lifestream, losses the lower half of his body and dies but his consciousness is able to fuse with the lifestream because of his pure hatred and he also has Jenova cells which allows him to manifest as fake Sephiroths made up of parts of Jenova.
Anyone else notice that gigaflare has sweet spots with sour spots on the edges? So many people don't realize that and are amazed when gigaflare doesn't kill at 100.
with characters that have this dynamic hitboxes I think it would be neat to see all of them "added" up to see just exactly how much ground the move covers
I'm surprised you didn't mention how a fully charged Neutral B can just delete stocks on the ledge as the explosion covers every option besides leaving the ledge and re-grabbing.
There is also one other thing with his forward air. If you use it off the stage but close to the side of the stage, his sword gets stuck in the stage and he just chills for a while.
Something I have tested during my little Elite Match games in Smash Ulti when Sephorith was new. His Heavy version Up B also can be hit be certain Counters. Roy, Chrome, Marth, and Lucina can and Ike swings too slowly to hit below the ledge. If he is in his second swing you might get hit instead before I Frames run out or you have to play a little dangerous and space yourself just enough offstage to trigger it/miss it and drift to ledge. Little Mac also can Haymaker and hit Sephorith even if he counters the right way cause he can't push him out fast enough to hit counter and not him, Little Mac can also armor through Sephorith's counter and get K.O punch and hit him with K.O punch before his actions at most points. Depends when you armored it. Also can't Counter projectiles like other counters. Side B on hit also hits other people while rotating like a Leaf Shield from Mega Man would, Counter also can also be free during 2 orbs, 3 and it's a lil risky, may hit you but only takes it as if 1 hit you and you're nice still goes off, and 4 or more then you can't counter it, you'll swing only for a small bit before getting knocked out of it. Idk how this works for Lucario and Greninja though
The only question I have left is how does shadow flare determine the knockback angle? It seems to always send the opponent towards the blast zone. Does it choose to send the opponent away from Sephiroth? Or just towards the nearest blast zone?
Shadowflare will always send away from Seph, you can actually use that for easier kill setups, especially once you get shadowflare's timing down (which is about 4.5-5 seconds for 3 balls, and about 6 for 5 balls.) A perfect example is full charge side B + F-throw at ledge, it's usually a 0-death depending on the match up, and at the very least it's very good at establishing tempo
Regarding One Wing Mode/OWM disappearing, it typically disappears (in singles) when Sephiroth takes a stock and has dealt 65% or more, or he dies. Info courtesy of Sethlon This is why sometimes you get a kill with the wing, and it persists through your next stock before disappearing at seemingly random
i discovered yesterday that seph's fsmash clashes with his own down tilt which is reminding me of how hero's own fsmash can clash with his dtilt for no good reason considering how much.. weaker that dtilt is compared to his fsmash- the clash boxes in ult are so.. weird compared to when smashes could just.. break through a weaker attack like a tilt in some of the older games
I just realized the video titles joke... Every adjective used to describe the hitboxes start with the same letter as the character's name. I'm so zetta slow ^^'
Just letting people know I made a little mistake when talking about the Down-b hitbox at 10:25. The "Normal version" version is actually notably smaller, and both those hitboxes I showed are for the successful counter. For some reason there are two almost identical versions of them. If you want to see the real visual you can view it here: ultimateframedata.com/sephiroth.php. Sorry about the info in the video not being correct.
well i got to see the hitbox either way so it’s okay :)
All good fam.
Just keep your hands off the kids.
Something else to point out is that you can actually reflect the down-B. I guess 75% of Sephiroth’s specials get beaten by reflectors.
@@AuraChanneler 5/7 specials
Incredibly amused by the fact that Sephiroth has the same weight as Kirby, and there is absolutely no explanation for this other than ‘because he would have been unstoppable otherwise’.
I think this is also another form of balancing as well. From the ending lag of his moves to his One Wing, his weight had to have been adjusted just so he's under Ultimate's "fair ground".
They did the same thing to mewtwo.... but then forgot to make him decent outside of that
It sort of makes sense, since he can float, I guess
@@a_soup_can I mean, when you put it like that, MewTwo floats due to his psychic power so it shouldn't really affect the fact that he should be much heavier
They both have giant swords except Kirby's is locked to final smash.
Fun fact: The amount of orbs that side b spawns is actually derivative of the amount of damage it deals. I reflected a fully charged side b once and Sephiroth got all 5 orbs around him
That’s actually really interesting.
I thought that too, but it's actually a unique property it gets from being reflected. I tried using it with and without spirits, but no matter what, a fully charged side B will always have 3 orbs if done from sephiroth, slight charge will have 2, and no charge has zero. It gets reflected in a unique manner by getting more orbs based on the power increase from the reflector, not based on the damage from the move itself.
Interesting. It might also be programmed to scale appropriately with spirits and such? That’d be my guess.
@@sc23_gaming5 Exactly. I think this was stated -- or at least shown -- in Sakurai's presentation.
@@skeletorthebest7204 No, it's a unique property of the move.
One thing I was hoping you would mention is that the up smash has an unfortunate tendency of missing characters who low profile.
Only right next to him though
@@paper-boat4326 Both sides have a blindspot
@@ImmaFarmerInMalaysia yeah I just saw that in the vid, I’ve only gotten low profiled in the back before
Yes, only to the back of his up smash
I'm not complaining, he still op, and I think the smash community is fine with Sephiroth of all characters being broken then some fucking rat that gives you a little zing
“it wouldn’t be a final fantasy character without !”
The traditional Final Fantasy big bair. You know, traditional. With the one other Final Fantasy character. They both have big swords. I don't know what you think a bair would be when that's their main weapon.
@@Boyzby fax
Also his run animation, they both do that glide across the ground. Octoslash and cross slash also have some similarities. Makes sense since they both originate from the same game.
Only speaking in Japanese
*sword*
The sliding down tilt should be dubbed the "DLC down tilt" since Joker, Hero, Min Min, Sephiroth, and kind of Banjo have it, which is at least half of the DLC characters as of now.
There *are* two base game characters who have it, Mega Man and Belmonts
Cloud has it too but he was DLC in Smash 4
Hero and banjo don't slide, they stay in place
@@YounesLayachi Banjo slides but doesn’t do a kick, and Hero does the kick but doesn’t slide
Banjos is much more unique imo but i call them all the dlc dtilts as well lol! Ever since clouds
@crystalblade13 if you continuously use Banjo’s down tilt at the left edge of battlefield facing right, it won’t take him much time to get to the other side using only down tilt
i REALLY love the animation for him at 7:21. Its such a small detail but the way he grips his blade and re-grips its looks so clean.
I was rewatching his trailer and I just noticed that animation shows up in it.
7:07 What a usual and non-edited shape for an arrow on Sephiroth's up-special
Hmmmm
What the heck
ah yes, random shanna arrows. my favourite.
She’s just too powerful
I still can't get over the fact that Sephiroth (a literal angel), weighs the same as a small pink puff ball, and an electric mouse.
You mean a Yellow Rat right?
@@CursedMoistMan690 I thought the pokedex called him a "an electric mouse/rat" or something like that.
Friendly reminder that Kirby kills gods fairly regularly. Maybe immense power lightens you up.
@@seabassthegamer6644 I love Kirby till I remember he's killed like 15 different omnipotent beings. Tbh I'd be more scared of Kirby walking up on me then anyone else in smash
@@solemnsovereign758 Just don't threaten the universe, his food, or his friends, and he won't hurt you.
5:55 why does Sephiroth look like he just had to ask "Why is it sticky?"
PKBeats tested out His winged form in both normal battle and in training mode. It actually does work the same in both modes. The reason it doesn't seem to work correctly is because apparently Training mode counts the CPU stocks and doesn't reset the stock count until you go back to the character select screen, resetting position does not cause the stock count to reset.
This
so its just a small game oversight... ok
why capitalize "his"
@@mouthwide0pen I tend to miss space on my phones keyboard and add random periods instead. So sometimes letters get auto capitalized and I don't notice until after I send the message. The I didn't think it was that important to edit and fix it.
The good ol’ “dlc d-tilt”
Sephiroth learned from cloud
@@gerwyn4260 and they both learned from daddy Mega Man
And all of them stole it from Kirby, who didn’t even get to do it in Smash
The Square slide.
Ever since Mega Man joined, everyone's been copying the cool new thing now.
This character was definitely something I never knew I needed
Everyone needs daddy sephiroth
@@jj6148 Especially shirtless sephiroth
@@CereDulce37 Is it just me or did the room get hotter.
Hes so much fun
Same
When you talk about down air, don't you mean down aerith?
:C
I get emotional trauma from this
YES! (although it hits the feels) YES WE'VE SPREAD IT!!!
Oof.
Dang ff7 are crying ... Tifa is better
This video is false. You say it covers the whole sword but if you look closely, a few inches of the tip aren't covered which greatly hurts sephy's range. Cant believe this inaccuracy. Please Sakurai fix this character.
smh
broken, fix sword when
‘sakuri’
Ikr? Unacceptable. Now Sakurai needs to triple the size of his sword now
me, a dedede player "can we just have the whole gordo again?"
A surprising thing to add about Sephiroth's counter is that it can be reflected.
This is most notable in the matchup against Pit/Dark Pit due to their side specials being attacks you would want to counter, but can't since they're also reflectors for some reason.
The reason is because Kid Icarus is Sakurai's game. His boys get the cool stuff.
@@liamwhite3522 except they don’t get any other working moves
@@Edgeperor "except they don't get any -other- working moves" FTFY
Side-B's will occasionally just not work. Sometimes it feels like Raptor Boost 2.0
I may need to test this, but the pits side b’s don’t actually reflect, they just deflect. The owner of the projectile doesn’t change
@@chordalharmony I just read this and thought "that can't be right."
However, after checking up on this, I stand corrected.
I suspect I was under this misconception because usually when this move deflects a projectile, Pit continues to slam his fist into my face.
Thanks for the tip!
His counter acts like a projectile, I was able to block it with young link’s shield
@@juanmanuelestrada9597 Is interesting to punish his side b with counters and reflectors when timed properly, but seems more difficult each day since they become more aware of that
Kirby can eat it
If he counters minmin upsmash or ness fsmash (probably lucas too) he basically insta dies
That's because it is a projectile. Sephiroth cannot counter a Sephiroth counter, and it can be reflected.
@@K-Sha1 a better peach counter
I was excited to see these, thanks!!
I saw they were up on the frame data website but I didn't see them so I would see them here first
how excited were you randy 😳
I'm really happy we finally got another kingdom hearts rep.
What do you mean? Cloud was already in the game.
PTSD for KH2 fans increases
@Joshua Suh yes it is
I really do feel like that, tbh. Obviously most of the inspiration comes from Advent Children but there’s also some clear Kingdom Hearts design choices, especially the one wing
@@btd0ja oh yea definitely
This is cool and all but
I *NEED* King K. Rool's Klunky hitboxes, you cannot run from me forever, getting visuals to figure out why BAir and Up Tilt just whiffs at times will make me happy
thin with low active frames. Bair lasts for about 3 frames total and utilt launcher only lasts for 2 frame with a thin lasting hitbox. It doesn't help that bair is p slow. While i can't speak for utlt, Bair is still a really good move if you're precise with it, and if you're whiffing its not exactly the move's fault rather than just your's.
Just search K Rool hitboxes
@@Agerzzs Yeah but I want to see an in depth video from Rei
If you reeally need the hitboxes, you can check UFD
You can search that yourself if you care so much
11:47 I kinda like how they gave the move these extra hitboxes just so he can hit opponents above him while striking an awesome pose.
7:08 unexpected spontaneous shanna fire emblem
I want to think that the opponent in the move demonstration being red Zelda was an intentional choice and not a coincidence.
EDIT: 8:00 oh no
wdym
@@birbthetopicman2851 just play final fantasy 7 original that all i can say
@@birbthetopicman2851 down aerith
I mean yeah do we not remember cloud's post-classic mode screen
The pain is still fresh
I'm gonna be honest, I expected up smash to have some really egregious hitbox interpolation due to it being such a huge sword being swung so fast. I'm pleasantly surprised it doesn't have the same problem as Ganondorf's forward smash. Poor prince of darkness.
banio f smash has those problems too ):
Prince ?? Aight I'm calling the ganon police
What is Hitbox Interpolation? Could you please explain? I couldn't find anything on Google
@@jamesgosling8491 It's explained better in Rekzius' Ganondorf video, but in essence, the hitboxes will stretch to connect between 2 frames. However, Ganondorf and Banjo have very large differences between 2 of the frames of their f smashes, so the hitboxes stretch in a way that they don't match the visuals.
@@YounesLayachi I will only recognize my favorite villain as King when he can manage to crawl his way up from the low tiers and stop losing to some long eared boy in a silly hat.
Wow, a dlc character that doesn’t have any useless hitboxes. That’s pretty crazy
Useless hotboxes?
Sephiroth doesn’t need the extra hitboxes he’s already got that sword
@@Murr248 the ones with higher Ids that physically cannot hit the opponent
@@Murr248 I know this was an innocent typo, but I assure you that none of his boxes are useless but all of them are hot.
I got back aired by him when I was below his feet..
Another drawback of his counter is it’s nature as a projectile, meaning any reflects can reverse it onto Sephiroth, such as min min’s up smash
Something you didn’t mention: his counter is also a projectile, meaning it can be reflected. So...don’t counter MinMin up-smash or something similar.
I've tried more than once to counter Ness and Lucas doing their f-smash. Very bad idea.
@@TurlessTiger R.O.B can do the same thing.
Kazuya too
As a Kazuya main, my favorite part is when I get to read their reflect and get and instant KO
Oh, you're at 0?
Dont care.
This game is really pushing the boundaries when it comes to making movesets (in a good way)
at 7:07 why does Shanna from fe6 appear
We need answers!
I was thinking maybe the dialogue spoken then was perhaps a FE6 reference. But I can't recall that line being from Binding Blade lol
Maybe she can ferry Sephiroth to the seize point just like with Roy xD
3:37 Ah yes Joker and Min Min are my favorite Final Fantasy VII characters
I mean, Persona 5 has essentially replaced Final Fantasy 7 as the poster child for the “sMh ThIs PoPuLaR jRpG’s OvErRaTeD” game
As for ARMS... no idea
JC Manalili Honestly I main Joker, Min Min, and Cloud so you could say I like FFVII characters a lot haha
I need someone to make a meme out of that Cat in the Hat scene where he has a baseball bat and is about to whack a child with it. Except the Cat in the Hat is Sephiroth, the baseball bat is the sword, and the child is Galeem.
Imagine if they add a monster hunter with all 14 weapons, with each weapon changing your tilts, smashes, and aerials, and being toggled on the Character select screen like Pokémon trainer
Can we mention that Octoslash has a swing speed of 1 swing per two frames (without hit--pause for effect ingame), so this implies that Sephiroth's octoslash can swing 30 times PER SECOND?! That's faster than General Grievous's swing speed of 20 times per second, and he has 4 fucking swords that have little to no weight!
Sephiroth is a literal God with a capital G. Grievous is just a robot
I love how to beat the counter you can time an attack to hit between counter detection and the attack
are we going to talk about how up tilt just straight up teleports the opponent to the tip of your sword.
Dude, sometimes I'm baffled by how some of my attacks miss tbh. Obviously I just need to get better, but the visuals definitely make it seem like an attack will hit.
11:41 Same color as the Kirbies Sakurai showed the range with in the reveal trailer. Very clever, Zeckemyro.
5:40 what is he grabbing with?! His knees?!
- Angry Sephiroth Main
My man! Was waiting to see something like this, I always enjoy these kinda videos from you
From what I have gathered/read, Sephi's Winged Form goes off the same equation as Aura, and only triggers once his "Aura" would mette out 125% increase (Lucario's absolute cap being ~200% means this is a little over halfway Aura), once activated it only turns off once Sephi dies, or he KO's an opponent and the new presenting Aura equation puts him below the threshold to activate/maintain the wing.
Sephiroth has the same weight as fricking Kirby and I love that!
I love the icon. I play a lot of MtG, so game respects game. I loved the video; keep up the good work!
I love the FFVI Terra music in the background.
There’s a really stupid combo with Sephiroth I’ve found where you can d-tilt and if you hit it on the tail end of the move you, from what I’ve done, combo into up-tilt. It’s - not very practical, and not even very consistent, but I love how even the most evil and terrifying characters can have some dumb stuff to do with him.
Is this possible after updates?
I can't believe you put Zelda ~Aerith~ on the chopping block here. Very cruel.
*Iconic*
But cruel.
Damage dealt multipliers include Ink and 1v1 - short hop does indeed affect base damage (false info at 2:40)
PKbeats does a really comprehensive breakdown of his wing mechanic in his useless smash facts video! I highly recommend you give the video a watch!
(1:10) Remember that training mode is a team battle on time, set to infinite, and with team attack off. You sure the wing doesn't behave the same as in a versus match of this kind? Also remember to never change the percentage in training mode, since that might affect the variables.
something i always found strange about seph's down B is that IF scintilla gets broken, he's for some unknown reason.. completely invincible during the stagger. to the point ike's eruption, which is one of the few moves that actually reach seph during that time, doesn't hit
I recall thinking that the counter being broken was actually a tad more useful than using it the normal way, especially after reading the attack portion is a projectile and can be reflected
Therapist: Bald Sephiroth isn't real he can't hurt you
Bald Sephiroth:
5:50
It cost you $0 to not say that, and yet you did.
1. Point out bald Sephiroth
2. Become therapist
3. You come see me
I just made money off of this
7:08 What is pitfalls IV doing here?
Put him in the hands of those tournament players who play with their controller's upside-down with only to fingers actually playing, and you'll get to feel true dispair
4:40 “clean and simple” I see what you did there *insert nightcore version of Simple and Clean from Kingdom Hearts used for the Big Gay Dance*
sora for smash
@@rouge-ish324Correct!
Scalpless Sephiroth isn't real, he can't hurt you.
Scalpless Sephiroth: 5:51
fun fact: the amount of shadow orb you get is actualy depending on how much damage the original hit does, as seen when it gets reflected you'll get more orbs on yourself
My jaw dropped so much when you said he's as light as Kirby. Bruhhhh
The down tilt is the Standardized SOLDIER Slide Maneuver (SSSM) from now on in my mind.
9:25 Now, the endlag on that move if you land with it is even worse that Up-Air's.
Like, if you shield Octoslash, you can punish Sephiroth with THUNDER. RAW THUNDER.
And given how light Sephiroth is... Yeah.
"*Trademark FF7 down tilt*"
Oh yeah Min Min and Joker are my favorite FF7 characters
Sephiroth is actually pretty honest for a DLC character. The comeback mechanic really isn't going to push your advantage much when you're winning. Most sword characters have such generous hitboxes they don't even have to face the right way to get a hit while Sephiroth's stay within reason. And his counter needs you to face the right way AND it can break? You can't get away with being a dumb masher on this character, and it's great. I wish other sword characters were balanced like this.
Nintendo: ok sakurai, what is the next character for super smash brothers
Sakurai: Sepheroth!
Nintendo: nooo you can’t do that! There are already two long range dlcs
Sakurai: haha long range go brrrrrr
Already two long rage dlcs
Min min and....who us the other one?
@@gabrielkrows488 Byleth
@@geo4290 ty
@@YallGonMakeMe245 oh thanks
Nintendo: Sakurai you need to stop adding hitboxes, you are reaching the limit!!
Sakurai: BUT WE NEED MORE!!!
dev: We really don't need the hitboxes in the z-axis, they shouldn't do anything ever and only mean potential for bugs.
Sakurai: YES WE DO! ADD THEM!
I'd have loved to see how these big sweeping hitboxes were interpolated between frames. Regardless lovely work as usual
The way wing works to leave after getting a ko is when someone dies, the threshold of wing changes, and if your percent isn't in the threshold change damage percent, it goes away
An explanation of Sephiroth being such a lightweight is *(SPOILERS AHEAD IF YOU HAVEN'T PLAYED FFVII DON'T LOOK DOWN BELOW)*
By FFVII he's actually dead, during the Nibelheim incident (also covered in Crisis Core) he dies while fighting Cloud, he falls into the Lifestream, losses the lower half of his body and dies but his consciousness is able to fuse with the lifestream because of his pure hatred and he also has Jenova cells which allows him to manifest as fake Sephiroths made up of parts of Jenova.
7:07 I'm not complaining but why?
You got the FE refrence? Can u explain it to me?
@@fireyadude6376 To be honest I don’t. I know who the character is, but I don’t know why she’s right there.
@@absoul112 ok thanks.For replaying anyways
5:53 "Look at the top of his head!"
Should have been Sephiroth's Sexy Hitboxes smh
7:08 I caught that lol
Sephiroth is my new main, and this was really helpful! And now, I shall give quickplay despair...
Sweet spots for sephiroth work like stabbing attacks tipper, slashing attacks middle of the sword I realized that as soon as he came out
Surprisingly the hit box for the activation of Sephiroth’s final smash is bigger then his forward smash
5:44 so thats why it hits me even when im ducking as kirby like that hitbox is stupidly low
It is so fun to reflect the projectile
Anyone else notice that gigaflare has sweet spots with sour spots on the edges? So many people don't realize that and are amazed when gigaflare doesn't kill at 100.
with characters that have this dynamic hitboxes I think it would be neat to see all of them "added" up to see just exactly how much ground the move covers
I'm surprised you didn't mention how a fully charged Neutral B can just delete stocks on the ledge as the explosion covers every option besides leaving the ledge and re-grabbing.
It also lasts long enough where they can't just stay on ledge, if Seph hucks Gigaflare and starts charging down smash, you have to drop ledge or die
I just wait it out under the ledge. I main Dedede though, so I have the jumps and up-b to do that.
Regrabbing with no invulnerability to eat a down air
i love the ff6 music in the background. it really takes me back to when i first played that
Something that I’d like to note is that up air and up smash deal more damage towards the end of the move!
There is also one other thing with his forward air. If you use it off the stage but close to the side of the stage, his sword gets stuck in the stage and he just chills for a while.
I'm sad you didn't talk about whatever shenanigans are happening with his up tilt's scoop launch angles.
Hero’s d-tilt is almost like a good ol DLC dtilt but it isnt
First day back on smash and played 3 Sephiroths with lucaro and shulk I’m proud they were 2 dubs in high level with these hitboxs
Something I have tested during my little Elite Match games in Smash Ulti when Sephorith was new. His Heavy version Up B also can be hit be certain Counters. Roy, Chrome, Marth, and Lucina can and Ike swings too slowly to hit below the ledge. If he is in his second swing you might get hit instead before I Frames run out or you have to play a little dangerous and space yourself just enough offstage to trigger it/miss it and drift to ledge.
Little Mac also can Haymaker and hit Sephorith even if he counters the right way cause he can't push him out fast enough to hit counter and not him, Little Mac can also armor through Sephorith's counter and get K.O punch and hit him with K.O punch before his actions at most points. Depends when you armored it. Also can't Counter projectiles like other counters.
Side B on hit also hits other people while rotating like a Leaf Shield from Mega Man would, Counter also can also be free during 2 orbs, 3 and it's a lil risky, may hit you but only takes it as if 1 hit you and you're nice still goes off, and 4 or more then you can't counter it, you'll swing only for a small bit before getting knocked out of it. Idk how this works for Lucario and Greninja though
The only question I have left is how does shadow flare determine the knockback angle? It seems to always send the opponent towards the blast zone. Does it choose to send the opponent away from Sephiroth? Or just towards the nearest blast zone?
Shadowflare will always send away from Seph, you can actually use that for easier kill setups, especially once you get shadowflare's timing down (which is about 4.5-5 seconds for 3 balls, and about 6 for 5 balls.)
A perfect example is full charge side B + F-throw at ledge, it's usually a 0-death depending on the match up, and at the very least it's very good at establishing tempo
Amazing choice for Terra’s theme from ff6 as the bgm
Surely Lucas' Lucrative Hitboxes next, because some of them are or seem very odd
Regarding One Wing Mode/OWM disappearing, it typically disappears (in singles) when Sephiroth takes a stock and has dealt 65% or more, or he dies. Info courtesy of Sethlon
This is why sometimes you get a kill with the wing, and it persists through your next stock before disappearing at seemingly random
Yo anarcho-sephirothism thumbnail let’s go.
i discovered yesterday that seph's fsmash clashes with his own down tilt which is reminding me of how hero's own fsmash can clash with his dtilt for no good reason considering how much.. weaker that dtilt is compared to his fsmash- the clash boxes in ult are so.. weird compared to when smashes could just.. break through a weaker attack like a tilt in some of the older games
I just realized the video titles joke... Every adjective used to describe the hitboxes start with the same letter as the character's name.
I'm so zetta slow ^^'
When I learned of it, I finished the Aerith Spirit with Sephoroths Down Air.
Something important you missed is that his down-B is a projectile, and can be reflected - I love inhaling it as Dedede, always very funny
You should do Sephiroth next!
2:47 it disappears when you or the enemy dies, thats as consistent as it comes lmao
sometimes
Fun fact, you can reflect his counter using a reflect move like jokers makarakarn. Me and my friend found that out and we died laughing for no reason
How to understand new mechanic.
If sephiroth is doing worse than opponent or is close to death or losing, wing comes out.
was waiting for it
merry christmas
3:38
more like the PS1 slide, since the belmonts do it too! (although technically, Simon did appear on SNES, the move that executes is not. I guess)
I hear that the counter counts as a projectile. Which is why it can be absorbed and reflected.