If they made a Matthew everhard doll with a pull string voice box it would 100% have to say, "we are a reformed Bible believing church." Love your stuff, miss the Bible reviews, still a great Channel nonetheless.
Some things can’t be said too often. Just because you and I have heard him say that many times doesn’t discount the probability that new viewers are hearing it for the first time. On the other hand, that’s a very minor complaint!
I lost my father in law due to it. He was the strongest and healthiest man, pound for pound, that I ever knew until he “died suddenly” … the absolute strongest, and healthiest man i ever knew in all my years of life. 😢 @sk-un5jq you have eyes to see … you will notice those such as “michaelbledsoe4” attack whenever you express insights such as these. Jonathan Edwards died suddenly. 😢. He was targeted as well. Somehow, there is a spirit of science falsely so called attack the children of God. 1 Timothy 6:19-21 KJV “O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called: which some professing have erred concerning the faith. Grace be with thee. Amen.”
Died in his fifties however he managed to raise a family And preach Its not how long one lives But what one puts into it! Augustus toplady died aged 38!
Thank you. How deep and strong was their faith, to rejoice in widowhood, kiss the rod, and of course they are right. Nothing happens without God allowing it for our ultimate good, but we "modern" Christians seem so puny in comparison to them .
Quoting from Wikipedia: 1. Edwards left behind eleven children (three sons and eight daughters). 2. Many of Jonathan and Sarah Edwards's descendants became prominent citizens in the United States, including Burr and college presidents Timothy Dwight, Jonathan Edwards Jr. and Merrill Edwards Gates. Jonathan and Sarah Edwards were also ancestors of Edith Roosevelt, the writer O. Henry, the publisher Frank Nelson Doubleday, and the writer Robert Lowell. 3. His descendants have had a disproportionate effect upon American culture: his biographer George Marsden notes that "the Edwards family produced scores of clergymen, thirteen presidents of higher learning, sixty-five professors, and many other persons of notable achievements."
I come from a family of 12. Eight boys and four girls. The pro choice people have mocked me ( and my mother) in the comments on some channels. If only they knew how much they owe to families like the one you describe here !
@@LuvGod4ever interesting Dont know We all have 'culture of the day' issues to deal with dont we. The man crossed over to the other side now. Ie Passed away. So only God knows what's happened to him now as a result. He is the judge.
Its all about 'the narrative' again I suppose Thought this was gonna be dwelling on some teaching legacy he /they left the world.. but nah, just "tragic" they died of natural causes. Im sure for any faithful workers of God, they would have heard "well done" from God on the other side..
Yes... My parents lived to be 98 and had unusually good health in their senior years. There never had a flu shot or Covid vax. Or any in their life, except when they got on the boat to immigrate to the USA in their 20's. One smallpox shot, no others. They very seldom had a cold, and rarely a flu of any sort. They had 12 healthy children, 45 grandchildren, & 92 great grandchildren. Most of their friends and relatives also lived long lives. It does seem to me the more vaccinations we get, the more diseases we're getting. Especially cancer and auto immune diseases. This generation is being given vaxcines a very young age ( infants) and now we have autism and neurological problems. Personally, my siblings and I got the polio shots in the early sixties, but not until we were four or five years old. Most of us got the mumps & measles and considered it quite normal in those days. Since the Covid vaccines, most of my large family did not get any. Sadly, we know of many people who are now being diagnosed with " turbo" cancer ; finding it in stage four. Also many with heart inflamation and some sudden, unexplained deaths and heart attacks. I dont think these were vaccines in the real sense. They were made very quickly with no trials. As a Christian, I believe each must make up his or her own mind regarding these matters. It's a matter of Christian liberty. I do not believe we should judge or condemn others who differ from our views.
✟ For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart. Hebrews 4:12 (KJV)
Could you please make a Video for Preachers about How Jonathan Edwards had preached the gospel, especially how he incorporated the Bible and how he quoted the Bible. And should we do this the same way in preaching now a days? How many parallel verses can we expect the listener to hear? Can we learn something from Edwards about the degree to which and the way in which we incorporate the Bible into preaching so that longtime believers, including unbelievers and baby Christians, are addressed but not overburdened? (Based on an expository sermon 😉)
An exceptional piece on Jonathan Edward's evn though it's about hi death. A departure from a devastated wasteland to a heavenly homeland of divine things
After listening to your Sara lecture. I started reading and found out about Jonathan s death so tragic. If he had only knew. Research did say his health was never robust
@@LuvGod4everContext is key with the slavery issue. It's also a red herring (a logical fallacy) to bring up an irrelevant issue and claim that somehow it makes his faithfulness null and void
Thanks, Matt, for this fascinating piece. It opened up a number of sad but uplifting stories of this tragic year in the life of the Edwards family. Keep up the good work.
Is there a link to. your sermon on Sarah Edwards? We are studying her life with our homeschool children here at the Aloha House of Hope and would love to be able to listen to it. Thank you.
Systematic theology and biblical theology are two different approaches to studying the Bible.0 Systematic theology is the practice of making statements about God and Christianity based on the entire Biblical canon.4 On the other hand, biblical theology studies the Bible with a focus on its history, the history of revelation and redemption.5 While biblical theology may give insight into a specific portion of scripture, it may not be the best way of building a doctrine since it may not give you all that scripture says on a specific topic. On the other hand, systematic theology can give you a very detailed view on a topic, but that view can be enhanced by providing even more context to the specific scripture which discusses a view.1 Biblical theology focuses on the progressively revealed storyline of God’s Word, while systematic theology gathers the texts and truths that accompany and are tucked into that storyline so we can gain more complete and nuanced insight into God’s mind.2 The discipline of biblical theology is just as important to the life of a church as systematic theology, and both are necessary to know who Jesus is, what the gospel is, and how to guard and guide our churches.3
@@Benjamin-jo4rf doctrines and theology is how you keep an eye out for false prophets and false teachers, also proper eschatology/hermeneutics, help us to understand what is actually happening.
Thank you for this. I wondered if you could comment on Edwards' last words when he said that, since he trusts his union with his wife was spiritual, it would continue forever?
There are close spiritual bonds in heaven, but it will not be a physical bond like we had here. We'll be like the angels in some sense. Even John the beloved apostle had a closer bond with Jesus....leaning in his bosom.
@@wqv5423ln I will go and see my forever friend and we will bask in the Glory of our Lord forever. Remember, eye has not seen nor ear heard what the Lord has in store for us. We cannot imagine what it will be like. No paradise that lesser minds conceive, because they are earthly religions.
Reputation goes a long way if you met Johnathan Edwards and didn't know who he was you would want anything to do with him and no one today would want to live in John Calvin's Geneva
@@howardthompson4844it doesnt sound to me like you know the Bible very well. Jesus is not only love, and warns sinners of the wrath to come if they do not repent. For exmple John 3 : 16-21 Apart from Christ we are indeed under condemnation, but Jesus told His diciples to go and preach the gospel ( good news) to all the world. So that all who repent and believe will receive forgiveness of sin and eternal life !
honest est question from a seminary student working on a church history paper on the subject... As Christians how can and should we navigate the fact that Jonathan Edwards held slaves? Did he, at any point give any sort of justification for his posture with regards to that issue?
Have you ever systematically gone through the Scriptures from Genesis to Revelation and looked at the doctrine of slavery? As of yet to my surprise I have found no one who has. However the Scriptures have much to say as to its origin reasons laws and future Having this knowledge will answer your question🙏
@eucharistangel4662 Calvinists believe Edwards’ painful and miserable death was baked in before the beginning of time. I would attribute it to 18th century medical malpractice.
@@danreich4320 Either it was ordained before the foundation of the world by the triune God, or it happened due to a serious of random and unlucky occurrences. There can be no middle ground.
The famous Calvinist Jonathan Edwards (who John Piper hugely admires) wrote: "It is most just, exceeding just, that God should take the soul of a new-born infant and cast it into eternal torments." Jonathan Edwards Calvinism teaches that God chooses who is elect and who is UNelect/reprobate **BEFORE** people are born and **BEFORE** they have “done anything good or bad, so that God’s purpose according to His choice would stand, not because of works but because of Him who calls,” Romans 9:11 So if you are a consistent Calvinist you will believe that most babies and children who die go to eternal torture in Hell, because it was already decided before they were born - so the age at which they die is irrelevant. John Calvin wrote: "By predestination we mean the eternal decree of God, by which he determined with himself whatever he wished to happen with regard to every man. All are not created on equal terms, but some are preordained to eternal life, others to eternal damnation; and, accordingly as each has been created for one or other of those ends we say that he has been predestined to life or death.” John Calvin, The Institutes of the Christian Religion Famous Calvinist A. W. Pink wrote: “God loves the elect and hates the reprobate.” Calvinism teaches that God hates most people. Dr. James White, another famous Calvinist, also believes in infant damnation. But C S Lewis and John Wesley who were NOT Calvinists wrote about Calvinism: “The doctrine of Total Depravity… may thus turn Christianity into a form of devil-worship." - C.S. Lewis - The Problem Of Pain, pp. 28-29 "You represent God as worse than the devil; more false, more cruel, more unjust. But you say you will prove it by scripture. Hold! What will you prove by Scripture? That God is worse than the devil?" John Wesley Notice: under Calvinism and the Calvinists’ wrong interpretation of Romans 9 most people are determined by God to go to Hell BEFORE they have done anything good or bad - so they are NOT going to Hell because of sin or because of how they respond to the Gospel. They are just going to hell because the Calvinist God made them expressly to go to Hell.
1 Timothy 2:4. “God desires all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth.” So your argument is that is that because many go to hell, God doesn’t always get what He wants? What percentage? 50/50? 75/25?
@@michaelbirke6050Hello there friend, May God bless you and your loved ones abundantly. No, that was not my argument at all. Instead of putting words in my mouth and dishonestly claiming that was my argument, why don’t you honestly quote what I actually said. In short, I said that Calvinists are crystal clear that God decides who is elect and unelect BEFORE they are born and before they have done anything good or bad/sin. That means that most humans go to Hell for eternity and it’s got nothing to do with any bad thing/sin they do in life - because God’s decision to send them to Hell was explicitly made before they had done anything good or bad and had nothing to do with anything they did good or bad. That’s Calvinism. And that’s why Jonathan Edwards said God sends babies to Hell for eternity (because what they do or don’t do in life is irrelevant).
@@SpielbergMichael May God bless you and your loved ones also. Are you one of the God’s elect? I pray for you that the Holy Spirit does a work in your heart. Have a wonderful and blessed Easter.
@@michaelbirke6050Hello again, You asked me if I was one of God’s elect. But you and I have a completely different definition of ‘elect.’ You believe it refers to those saved. I believe the Bible only uses the word in reference to service and it’s not referring to salvation. Why don’t you watch these videos, which go through every occurrence of ‘elect’ in the Bible to see what it actually genuinely means according to the Bible: ‘Election Word Occurrence Analysis’ and ‘ELECTION: it’s nothing like you were told’ ------ Also, may I ask: are you the kind of Calvinist who agrees with the Westminster confession which states God determines ALL things which come to pass - i.e. ALL things that happen? This is what John Piper believes and he’s written and spoken many times that God determines every vibration of every molecule snd every movement of every blade of grass, and therefore of course: every sin. I only ask that question because if you believe God determines everything (including who is saved and not saved) - then I don’t think anyone can truly answer your question about ‘are you one of God’s elect?’ Please let me explain. Because: If you believe God determines everything, then that would include God determining the people in Matthew 7:21-23 to think they were saved but in fact they were not. So if Calvinists are right about God determining everything, then they would have no way of knowing if they are one of those people in Matthew 7:21-23 who God has determined to think they are elect but in reality are not. So Calvinists have no way of knowing if they are truly saved or not. ----- Also, if you believe God determines everything - can you explain why God determined for the huge majority of Christians throughout history (including me) to NOT believe in Calvinism??? ----- Finally, why didn’t you address my actual argument? Do you believe as Jonathan Edward did that it is just for God to send a newborn baby to hell if god example it died during childbirth and it was unelect??? Please explain to me how it is just to send a baby who has never sinned to Hell for eternity?
If they made a Matthew everhard doll with a pull string voice box it would 100% have to say, "we are a reformed Bible believing church." Love your stuff, miss the Bible reviews, still a great Channel nonetheless.
You will be surprised how this man has influenced my devotional life.
Some things can’t be said too often.
Just because you and I have heard him say that many times doesn’t discount the probability that new viewers are hearing it for the first time.
On the other hand, that’s a very minor complaint!
How about “Love you lots”?
😂😂
When he believes Calvinism!!!
I lost 3 friends in 2022 due to the covid jabs. All perfectly healthy and young and they died suddenly in their sleep :(
Quit lying, Let's look at all the scripture about lying!
I lost my father in law due to it. He was the strongest and healthiest man, pound for pound, that I ever knew until he “died suddenly” … the absolute strongest, and healthiest man i ever knew in all my years of life. 😢
@sk-un5jq you have eyes to see … you will notice those such as “michaelbledsoe4” attack whenever you express insights such as these.
Jonathan Edwards died suddenly. 😢. He was targeted as well. Somehow, there is a spirit of science falsely so called attack the children of God.
1 Timothy 6:19-21 KJV
“O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called: which some professing have erred concerning the faith. Grace be with thee. Amen.”
@michaelbledsoe4355
He is not lying! This is still continuing all over ...lost a few friends myself!
Very sorry for your losses! This is real and continuing to happen all over.
It cost both my parents their lives
Died in his fifties however he managed to raise a family
And preach
Its not how long one lives
But what one puts into it!
Augustus toplady died aged
38!
Book recommendation: "Dissolving Illusions: Disease, Vaccines, and The Forgotten History".
Thank you. How deep and strong was their faith, to rejoice in widowhood, kiss the rod, and of course they are right. Nothing happens without God allowing it for our ultimate good, but we "modern" Christians seem so puny in comparison to them .
Quoting from Wikipedia:
1. Edwards left behind eleven children (three sons and eight daughters).
2. Many of Jonathan and Sarah Edwards's descendants became prominent citizens in the United States, including Burr and college presidents Timothy Dwight, Jonathan Edwards Jr. and Merrill Edwards Gates. Jonathan and Sarah Edwards were also ancestors of Edith Roosevelt, the writer O. Henry, the publisher Frank Nelson Doubleday, and the writer Robert Lowell.
3. His descendants have had a disproportionate effect upon American culture: his biographer George Marsden notes that "the Edwards family produced scores of clergymen, thirteen presidents of higher learning, sixty-five professors, and many other persons of notable achievements."
I come from a family of 12. Eight boys and four girls. The pro choice people have mocked me ( and my mother) in the comments on some channels. If only they knew how much they owe to families like the one you describe here !
Job 42:6 (KJV): "Wherefore I abhor myself and repent in dust and ashes."
@@annakimborahpa so who does that refer to ?
Whoever you would like to refer it to.
@@LuvGod4ever interesting
Dont know
We all have 'culture of the day' issues to deal with dont we.
The man crossed over to the other side now. Ie Passed away. So only God knows what's happened to him now as a result. He is the judge.
PRECIOUS in the sight of the Lord is the death of his saints. PRECIOUS, not tragic.
Its all about 'the narrative' again I suppose
Thought this was gonna be dwelling on some teaching legacy he /they left the world.. but nah, just "tragic" they died of natural causes. Im sure for any faithful workers of God, they would have heard "well done" from God on the other side..
He got a vax?
yes he did … This has happened before. Look up “science falsely so called” in KJ.
Yes... My parents lived to be 98 and had unusually good health in their senior years. There never had a flu shot or Covid vax. Or any in their life, except when they got on the boat to immigrate to the USA in their 20's. One smallpox shot, no others.
They very seldom had a cold, and rarely a flu of any sort. They had 12 healthy children, 45 grandchildren, & 92 great grandchildren. Most of their friends and relatives also lived long lives.
It does seem to me the more vaccinations we get, the more diseases we're getting. Especially cancer and auto immune diseases. This generation is being given vaxcines a very young age ( infants) and now we have autism and neurological problems.
Personally, my siblings and I got the polio shots in the early sixties, but not until we were four or five years old. Most of us got the mumps & measles and considered it quite normal in those days.
Since the Covid vaccines, most of my large family did not get any. Sadly, we know of many people who are now being diagnosed with " turbo" cancer ; finding it in stage four. Also many with heart inflamation and some sudden, unexplained deaths and heart attacks. I dont think these were vaccines in the real sense. They were made very quickly with no trials.
As a Christian, I believe each must make up his or her own mind regarding these matters. It's a matter of Christian liberty. I do not believe we should judge or condemn others who differ from our views.
Thanks for everything you do. You have been a great blessing to me.
Love learning about historical figures. Thanks for the great video.
Good presentation. I think the year should be 1758 for your second bullet point at 12:38
✟
For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.
Hebrews 4:12 (KJV)
While I understand the reasoning behind his letter, shouldn’t Edwards have been consoling his son with the good news of Christ and the gospel?
Could you please make a Video for Preachers about How Jonathan Edwards had preached the gospel, especially how he incorporated the Bible and how he quoted the Bible. And should we do this the same way in preaching now a days?
How many parallel verses can we expect the listener to hear?
Can we learn something from Edwards about the degree to which and the way in which we incorporate the Bible into preaching so that longtime believers, including unbelievers and baby Christians, are addressed but not overburdened? (Based on an expository sermon 😉)
Borrowing words from the Peanut cartoon.. here's my comment.
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An exceptional piece on Jonathan Edward's evn though it's about hi death. A departure from a devastated wasteland to a heavenly homeland of divine things
After listening to your Sara lecture. I started reading and found out about Jonathan s death so tragic. If he had only knew. Research did say his health was never robust
Second cousin, 8 times removed. I love to listen and learn. My family.
Jonathan Edwards owned people and that was against the commandment Jesus gave us to love others. Edwards never freed those Slaves. Very Shameful.
@@LuvGod4everContext is key with the slavery issue. It's also a red herring (a logical fallacy) to bring up an irrelevant issue and claim that somehow it makes his faithfulness null and void
Thanks, Matt, for this fascinating piece. It opened up a number of sad but uplifting stories of this tragic year in the life of the Edwards family. Keep up the good work.
Is that a typo on the final slide? If Burr died in Sept 1757, how could Edwards replace him in Feb of that year?
Best video yet 🙌🏼🙌🏼
Gave me chills
How come I’ve never seen this video till now?
Very well done
Great delivery on interesting and helpful information.
I think he never new Holy Ghost the person
safe and effective
Very interesting- thank you
Is there a link to. your sermon on Sarah Edwards? We are studying her life with our homeschool children here at the Aloha House of Hope and would love to be able to listen to it. Thank you.
What is the difference between a systematic theology and a biblical theology?
Jesus never mentioned either. The gospel of the Kingdom is what Jesus came to share with folks. What does the gospel mean to you? What is the gospel?
Systematic theology and biblical theology are two different approaches to studying the Bible.0 Systematic theology is the practice of making statements about God and Christianity based on the entire Biblical canon.4 On the other hand, biblical theology studies the Bible with a focus on its history, the history of revelation and redemption.5 While biblical theology may give insight into a specific portion of scripture, it may not be the best way of building a doctrine since it may not give you all that scripture says on a specific topic. On the other hand, systematic theology can give you a very detailed view on a topic, but that view can be enhanced by providing even more context to the specific scripture which discusses a view.1 Biblical theology focuses on the progressively revealed storyline of God’s Word, while systematic theology gathers the texts and truths that accompany and are tucked into that storyline so we can gain more complete and nuanced insight into God’s mind.2 The discipline of biblical theology is just as important to the life of a church as systematic theology, and both are necessary to know who Jesus is, what the gospel is, and how to guard and guide our churches.3
. . . . found that on 'google summariser'.
@@Benjamin-jo4rf doctrines and theology is how you keep an eye out for false prophets and false teachers, also proper eschatology/hermeneutics, help us to understand what is actually happening.
@@Mattebby20 so Jesus words aren't simple enough to follow? Jesus said a child can understand his teachings.
Thank you for this. I wondered if you could comment on Edwards' last words when he said that, since he trusts his union with his wife was spiritual, it would continue forever?
There are close spiritual bonds in heaven, but it will not be a physical bond like we had here. We'll be like the angels in some sense. Even John the beloved apostle had a closer bond with Jesus....leaning in his bosom.
@@wqv5423ln thanks. That is encouraging to hear.
@@wqv5423ln I will go and see my forever friend and we will bask in the Glory of our Lord forever. Remember, eye has not seen nor ear heard what the Lord has in store for us. We cannot imagine what it will be like. No paradise that lesser minds conceive, because they are earthly religions.
Seems more likely quinsy throat. JE would have died on that day for some reason since God numbers our days.
Wonderful. Tragic summary. Thank you.
Thank you.
Trusting in God doesn't seem to help at all with infectious diseases.
Thanks buddy,Coolbeans y’all,
Reputation goes a long way if you met Johnathan Edwards and didn't know who he was you would want anything to do with him and no one today would want to live in John Calvin's Geneva
@@howardthompson4844it doesnt sound to me like you know the Bible very well. Jesus is not only love, and warns sinners of the wrath to come if they do not repent. For exmple John 3 : 16-21
Apart from Christ we are indeed under condemnation, but Jesus told His diciples to go and preach the gospel ( good news) to all the world. So that all who repent and believe will receive forgiveness of sin and eternal life !
That's sad.
Bro that's brutal.
Check out the book “Rock and Sand” about the Reformers
Written by an Orthodox priest?
Yes
honest est question from a seminary student working on a church history paper on the subject... As Christians how can and should we navigate the fact that Jonathan Edwards held slaves? Did he, at any point give any sort of justification for his posture with regards to that issue?
should you cancel him?
It would depend on how he treated them and how he acquired them.
Have you ever systematically gone through the Scriptures from Genesis to Revelation and looked at the doctrine of slavery? As of yet to my surprise I have found no one who has. However the Scriptures have much to say as to its origin reasons laws and future
Having this knowledge will answer your question🙏
Calvinists
@eucharistangel4662 Calvinists believe Edwards’ painful and miserable death was baked in before the beginning of time. I would attribute it to 18th century medical malpractice.
@@danreich4320 Either it was ordained before the foundation of the world by the triune God, or it happened due to a serious of random and unlucky occurrences. There can be no middle ground.
@@danreich4320both may be true. The wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life. John 3 ; : 16-21
You’re a “Bible believing church”? As if all other churches don’t say the same thing.
Well, it does exclude the extreme liberals.
That said, Unitarian heretics would probably claim the same.
VAST differences between what's taught in churches.
Mainline churches wouldn't generally call themselves Bible believing because they knowingly reject portions of the Bible.
@@johnhoran9840 Exactly my point. That’s called being human. People interpret things and understand things in different ways.
The famous Calvinist Jonathan Edwards (who John Piper hugely admires) wrote:
"It is most just, exceeding just, that God should take the soul of a new-born infant and cast it into eternal torments."
Jonathan Edwards
Calvinism teaches that God chooses who is elect and who is UNelect/reprobate **BEFORE** people are born and **BEFORE** they have “done anything good or bad, so that God’s purpose according to His choice would stand, not because of works but because of Him who calls,”
Romans 9:11
So if you are a consistent Calvinist you will believe that most babies and children who die go to eternal torture in Hell, because it was already decided before they were born - so the age at which they die is irrelevant.
John Calvin wrote:
"By predestination we mean the eternal decree of God, by which he determined with himself whatever he wished to happen with regard to every man. All are not created on equal terms, but some are preordained to eternal life, others to eternal damnation; and, accordingly as each has been created for one or other of those ends we say that he has been predestined to life or death.”
John Calvin, The Institutes of the Christian Religion
Famous Calvinist A. W. Pink wrote: “God loves the elect and hates the reprobate.”
Calvinism teaches that God hates most people.
Dr. James White, another famous Calvinist, also believes in infant damnation.
But C S Lewis and John Wesley who were NOT Calvinists wrote about Calvinism:
“The doctrine of Total Depravity… may thus turn Christianity into a form of devil-worship."
- C.S. Lewis - The Problem Of Pain, pp. 28-29
"You represent God as worse than the devil; more false, more cruel, more unjust.
But you say you will prove it by scripture. Hold! What will you prove by Scripture? That God is worse than the devil?"
John Wesley
Notice: under Calvinism and the Calvinists’ wrong interpretation of Romans 9 most people are determined by God to go to Hell BEFORE they have done anything good or bad - so they are NOT going to Hell because of sin or because of how they respond to the Gospel. They are just going to hell because the Calvinist God made them expressly to go to Hell.
1 Timothy 2:4. “God desires all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth.” So your argument is that is that because many go to hell, God doesn’t always get what He wants? What percentage? 50/50? 75/25?
@@michaelbirke6050Hello there friend,
May God bless you and your loved ones abundantly.
No, that was not my argument at all. Instead of putting words in my mouth and dishonestly claiming that was my argument, why don’t you honestly quote what I actually said.
In short, I said that Calvinists are crystal clear that God decides who is elect and unelect BEFORE they are born and before they have done anything good or bad/sin.
That means that most humans go to Hell for eternity and it’s got nothing to do with any bad thing/sin they do in life - because God’s decision to send them to Hell was explicitly made before they had done anything good or bad and had nothing to do with anything they did good or bad.
That’s Calvinism.
And that’s why Jonathan Edwards said God sends babies to Hell for eternity (because what they do or don’t do in life is irrelevant).
@@SpielbergMichael May God bless you and your loved ones also. Are you one of the God’s elect? I pray for you that the Holy Spirit does a work in your heart. Have a wonderful and blessed Easter.
@@michaelbirke6050Hello again,
You asked me if I was one of God’s elect.
But you and I have a completely different definition of ‘elect.’
You believe it refers to those saved. I believe the Bible only uses the word in reference to service and it’s not referring to salvation.
Why don’t you watch these videos, which go through every occurrence of ‘elect’ in the Bible to see what it actually genuinely means according to the Bible:
‘Election Word Occurrence Analysis’
and
‘ELECTION: it’s nothing like you were told’
------
Also, may I ask: are you the kind of Calvinist who agrees with the Westminster confession which states God determines ALL things which come to pass - i.e. ALL things that happen? This is what John Piper believes and he’s written and spoken many times that God determines every vibration of every molecule snd every movement of every blade of grass, and therefore of course: every sin.
I only ask that question because if you believe God determines everything (including who is saved and not saved) - then I don’t think anyone can truly answer your question about ‘are you one of God’s elect?’
Please let me explain.
Because:
If you believe God determines everything, then that would include God determining the people in Matthew 7:21-23 to think they were saved but in fact they were not. So if Calvinists are right about God determining everything, then they would have no way of knowing if they are one of those people in Matthew 7:21-23 who God has determined to think they are elect but in reality are not.
So Calvinists have no way of knowing if they are truly saved or not.
-----
Also, if you believe God determines everything - can you explain why God determined for the huge majority of Christians throughout history (including me) to NOT believe in Calvinism???
-----
Finally, why didn’t you address my actual argument?
Do you believe as Jonathan Edward did that it is just for God to send a newborn baby to hell if god example it died during childbirth and it was unelect???
Please explain to me how it is just to send a baby who has never sinned to Hell for eternity?
It's called original sin. Look it up.