Inking with a brush: strokes and tips
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- Опубліковано 20 сер 2024
- A clip following up on my Milton Caniff study...
• Milton Caniff study : ...
...talking about the strokes I used in that the most and other tidbits regarding learning how to ink well.
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Argggh! The way you just rendered the top of the skull in one stroke at 12:34! That's what I'm trying to learn to do!
Lot's practice! You'll get there!
I'd recommend doing long hand calligraphy loops with a brush as a line control exercise to refine your control for things like that. The kind of think she's doing in this,
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And I'm not doing them on camera but you can see the sort i use at 4 : 48 of this clip ua-cam.com/video/AozD63oxPkU/v-deo.html
I love this video, i come back to it quite a lot.
Re fountain pen fude nib fountain pen. Great range of stroke width. Like the name, brush
Thank you! Because I need some good practice for using these brushes but also on how to be able to shade with them
Cool video. Nice ideas to practice along. Thanks.
Thank you so much! You were a blessing to watch! 😭
I dont mean to be so off topic but does anybody know a way to log back into an instagram account..?
I was stupid forgot my password. I appreciate any help you can give me!
That's what I needed. Thank's for all the nice tips
Hi @HenryWrinkler, I don't see it here but your comment showed up in my notifications. The Brushes I use in this clip are mostly all synthetic hair brushes, so REAL brushes, not felt or rubber, they behave just like dip brushes. So no, the title is not misleading IMO.
A little bit on the upside down side of things. Even when I turn off the rotate the screen button on my phone, if I try to rotate this to see it right side up it flips and makes it upside down again. I guess if I want to see this right side up I'll have to stand on my head! But I do appreciate all these tips
It looks pretty much the same way when I teach people in person, you should be able to see what's happening and that's what's important!
You are using a brush pen. These typically have short hairs. Because of this, one tends to hold these like a pen or pencil. With actual brushes, that have longer hairs, you'll find that you'll have more control if you hold it fairly vertical. Also, the longer hairs smooth out your hand's movement, resulting in smoother lines.
I have actually used one Erik, I'm aware. I inked a few issues of a Terminator comic over Goran Parlov's pencils with a brush that was very nearly a rigging brush for exactly those reasons.
This was a great video, thank you!
What brush are you using?
TigresToku I mentioned the names of it and others at 13:57
Thanks!
@@Salgood please write, I am not strong in English🙏
You need to write "Brush PEN" on the title. The fact that, with a normal brush, you need to dip it into ink changes everything. I'm sure that you know this but the viewer may not. If brush pen is difficult, real brush is a seriously tough craft!
Great vid though.
I've used both and really only changes the number of strokes you can make before loading the brush and controlling the wetness of the brush. The clip focuses on strokes and that does not really change.
I still believe brush characteristics should be take into consideration. In case, the variation of the amount of water and ink that the brush hold every time you dip it. Brush pen has a constant and even flow of ink. With brush, you need to learn how the brush behave when you fill it with ink (too much ink, too little. Clean on the paper before, "sharpen the fibers"...). The brush hair also influence on the stroke, harder hair allows a heavier hand, softer hair lighter hand...
The difference between Pentel or Kuretake synthetic self-feeding pocket brushes, and the traditional sable brushes in various sizes, is that a traditional sable brushes have more spring, offer necessary resistance against paper, and are more controllable. Both types are good for certain purposes, but for feathering, sable brush is a better choice because they come in different sizes and because of their better spring, and because of the more controllable spring, they produce better-looking long and consistent feathering lines, especially in curved shapes. For example, compare feathering in recent comics done with synthetic brushes, and feathering in comics done from 1930-70s, which were all done with traditional brushes.
I'm looking online and I was wondering if you or anybody has ever tried inking with Asian calligraphy brushes instead of western brushes? It should be the same right?
Definitely been done but not exactly the same no, they have different characteristics so you get different behavior from them.
Sumi ink painting... different brush hairs, usually-goat hair, wolf hairs. On rice paper, so you need to get used to the bleed through. Afterwards you'll mount it. You'll also mix your ink with water, which sumi can handle better than india ink. You're not thinking about shadows or light source in this style. The grip is different, you're not trying to be so detailed. It's a kind of 4-fingered manhandle way of holding the brush. Predominantly going north to south in a vertical hold, or east to west in a horizontal hold. I'm no expert, but I have worked in the style. Hope it helps, not too late.
1.25 speed was actually perfect.
Your voice reminds me of Paul Giamatti a bit lol
Hello Sam. Could you tell me what is the tool you're usin' ? And can it be refilled ? Thank you.
Hey Sam, great video! Sorry if you have it written somewhere and I'm just not seeing it, but I was curious what song you used for the intro. Thanks!
Country Road Late At Night, Dream The Dark Dream. by Sadoceanspacebear
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Thanks again! Appreciate it.
Please,what are the brands of your fountain pens and black brushpen? I didnt hear that during the video.Thanks a lot.
Mostly they are Pentel brush pens, a Pocket brush, a thin Pigment ink brush, and I think I used an Art brush too. But first one you see is a Kurataka #8 fountain brush.
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Thank you.And what about the fountain pens please?
@@panzerpatriot4920 you know I have to go and scroll through the video to find out myself now, this is an old video. You can do that yourself probably faster than I can read and reply?
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Understood,thanks anyway!
I still can't make some lines using brush do you have any tips sir?
Not based on that total lack of info. "Some lines" tells me nothing.
Sorry
I meant like cross hatching
@@crakoa1254 well it depends on the kind of hatchling you're trying to get, might be you just want a look that comes from a pen/nib. But fine feathering lines should be crosshatchable. If you can't make the lines thin enough then you'll need to work on your feathering and line control some more.
Thanks Mr Sam
Why is the video upside down. Nice content but can’t see properly.
Funny, when my students in a class stand around the table and have the exact same view, they have no problem seeing clearly. Use your imagination, you can actually see what i'm doing better in many ways from this angle. But you're commenting on a clip that's years old, do you imagine I can change it for you? Rotate your phone maybe. lol.
Excuse me sir...can I use cheap ink for my drawing?
well depends on what you mean by cheap. The ink for the brushes I'm using in this has to be able to flow through brush pens so while I don't spend a lot on it I don't use ink that will clog them. But if you're using dip brushes that's less of a worry, and India ink is not very expensive at all. But there's cheap good inks, and cheap bad shitty ink. I would stay away from bad inks. You might not know before trying one but you'll know if you do. They have grit in them, smell badly of chemicals sometimes, and dry odd tints of colour.
You don't however need to spend a lot of money, for good ink as a rule.
these exercises have to be with the brush pen or with a normal brush as well?
Any brush. A hair brush, synthetic or natural, is the best over all but they apply to felt and rubber brush pens too.
I this clip I use mainly the Kuretake No. 8 which is an excellent synthetic hair brush pen. And the Pentel Pigment Ink Extra Fine Brush Pen. Both are great, all of Pentel's synthetic brush pens are excellent really in my experience.
Is there a name for this style of inking?
Brushy? Caniff? Oldschool?
Not a formal one, but Milton Caniff would probably be considered a Silver Age (1956-1970) comics artist. Stylistically, he influenced MANY who came after right up to today, and solid brush inking and linework has never really gone out of fashion, even if people often do it digitally now.
Okay thanks. I'm trying to find examples and tutorials for illustrations dealing with heavy shadows and limited thin line work. I wasn't sure if there may be a name for that style. I realize that the style I prefer relates specifically to brush work where consistently thin strokes are more limited. For example I like the work Al Columbia although he displays a certain range there.
Thanks for the clarification though.
You've got me curious, I've never really heard of a name for it but I'll ask around.
One note, Al Columbia's work, not really the same school as Caniff but it's very much in the spirit of the Fleischer studios animation art style [think Betty Boop] and both his work and the Fleischer studios are influenced by what's called 'Bigfoot' style cartooning.
That has very little to do with Caniff who was much more for the illustration and cinematic end of the stylistic spectrum, other than using brushes they don't have that much in common.
One key distinction beyond cartoony vs realistic-ish characters, is the animation stuff all tends to have completed contour lines, with no open breaks in them. Whereas Caniff used a lot of broken 'lost line' effects in his work.
A contemporary to Caniff who has some of his line weight, but more over all in common with the animation stuff, is Walt Kelly, of Pogo.
Okay, thanks for that explanation. The similarity I see is mostly in regards to strong use of flat shadows as opposed hatching or expressions of shading. Al Columbia does have other work that excludes grays and those details. - 68.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ls91g9YvRE1qzekceo1_500.png
However I wasn't aware of those other details you mentioning regarding cartooning, completed lines, and lost lines. Makes sense. Yeah, I have a hard time with the completed lines myself. I always want messy detail.
So the reason I'm here is because I'm working on a project, illustrating environments in a virtual reality space. I'm trying to catch up on my distant illustration skills - estevancarlos.com/vr2/