GROUNDED Update INCOMING! Balance Patch 1.4.4 What Should Be Changed? Is New Game + Still Too Hard?
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- GROUNDED Update INCOMING! Balance Patch 1.4.4 What Should Be Changed? Is New Game + Still Too Hard?
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Honestly, the big wishlist changes I have are armor upgrading, elemental infusions only causing status effects, and truly infinite equipment upgrading. Start at 1 crystal and raise it by 1 for each level, increasing the cap by 5 for each NG+ chain.
This way, it's more of a steady upgrade process that encourages pushing the limits of dedication, instead of bulky up front costs that annoy players.
The zipline tool needs an upgrade to have 2 aphids and move a little faster
105 fusion crystals per weapon is insane. Sour damage bugs can 1 shot you.
Edit: mint staff needs more range, sour staff more speed, and salt staff is missing entirely.
Complete sets for wizard and bard are needed, not just the helmets.
If it's just a mantis nerf then I would be happy.
I actually don't mind the NG+ difficulty its hard but fun (sometimes). For casual players it would be hell for sure. Still surprised +explosive resist on the NG+ trinkets actually don't do anything! DEVS!!
One reason I found that new game plus is way too hard because of those damn sour orbs. Maybe the creature would summon the small sour orb instead the overcharged one.
Bosses make sour even worse. Paralyzer is extremely good at the game. He has said in his tip videos that facing bosses other than regular broodmother that have sour is a waste of time cause the chances of survival is extremely low as it is majority of the time a one shot kill. Before the scream parry change he would skip sour on all bosses and just save scum to reroll.
I tried to fight schmector that had explosive, hadn't faced him in a long while, died in two hits of the balls before I could heal.
Hard is only rewarding when it's fair. NG+ isn't hard. It's luck based on what attack type the infused boss/bug has.
NG+ also goes against many tank/barbarian builds because parrying is a requirement to even survive some of the infused creature's attacks, otherwise you'll most likely get stunlocked and killed easily.
Not to mention how it makes any defence event extremely stressful and annoying since they can easily break the strongest structures an a few hits, especially if they're fliers.
For me, what was missing in NG+ is having the option to improve armor up to +15 and creatures like the ox beetle and black widow dropping tier IV armor from NG+4 onwards. And spell damage to buildings needs to be urgently reduced!!
^ This. Much this. ^
I'd also like to see the weapons get balanced so that the SBA isn't a defacto requirement
You typed tier 6 (VI) instead of 4 (IV)
just a heads up👍
@@11KEBAB11 Thanks for advice!
Make it so when you go to a new new game + be able to buy the upgrades from last new game + like if you kissed 1 milk moler spend 20k or so to buy that 1 and finish your last upgrade or somthing like that sucks having to fined all but 1 or 2 and miss a full upgrade
Playstation player and I been stuck on grounded the past months such an amazing game it sucks it's not a bigger known game
It's been played by 20 million xbox and pc players dude, sold like 6 million copies not even including PlayStation where it was in top 15 games 3 months running
yea its a well known game
Very well known grounded has been awesome from day one
@@Knightsking917indeed it has.
In the Mantis fight, don't keep the baby mantises as infused.
Or if they are infused, give them the same buffs as the mother Mantis.
Randomising effects on the baby mantises makes the fight way too frustrating.
My main problem is I feel forced to play on mild difficulty just to not get 1 shot. I hope armor can be upgraded to level 15.
New milk molars for NG+ was a mistake for powering up. There are multiple other methods... trade in bug parts and the amount of parts scaled by the bug, or raw science, or exp also given for killing infused bugs in NG+. Something, milk molars are annoying, cause now for me to even want to go to NG+2 I have to look up a video to collect the milk molars in ridiculous locations so I am not even more under powered. If they wanted to go milk molars route, then the milk molars should not be lost if you don't collect before going to next ng+. Whoever thought of that idea wasn't thinking properly.
If you ever are attacked by two infused bugs in the upper yard, you are not surviving if one has sour or explosive. Just last night, was attacked by infused ladybird, was doing well, infused sold fire ant came in that had explosive, missed the parry, needed to quickly heal, but missed ladybird parry and it had sour. Died before I could heal. This has happened multiple times on getting double teamed by fire ants and ladybirds when one has sour/explosion. Lower yard has not been an issue really from my experience.
Yeah the molars are stupid, they should just be shown on the map
@@GrandEWNthat would be too easy 😂
I always keep antbassador mutation on
I would really like the drop rates for effects on crinkles/waffles/cones to be changed according to what drops from the enemies. What I mean by that is cones and waffles should have lesser chance to have useless effects than crinkles. I'm in my first NG+ and whenever I fight a black ox beetle and it drops a cone or waffle, the effects on them are useless 90% of the time. Then another 9,9% of time it gives 1 useful effect with 2 useless ones and then you have like 0,1% chance to actually get a useful combination. And by useful I mean a combination of effects that would work well on bosses, not just regular enemies.
Even after reloading for hours, I still barely ever get effects like "implant weakness -x" (and when I do it's mostly salt, which out of the 4 elements is the worst one to get imo), "+boss damage" (or any specific boss damage) etc.
I constantly get "tenderfoot attack/defense" (if you need protection against tier 1 enemies after entering NG+, then you shouldn't be playing this game) or "thirst" and "food" effects or "aphkid" etc. It's just so frustrating... these effects are pretty useless before NG+, let alone when you are in NG+, but they drop with high frequency. I just wish the chance to have better effects on drops (especially cones) would be higher...
They really need to nerf the damage effect of each of buffs the creatures get with each NG+.
Say in NG+2 the bugs have 2 effects but 1/2 the damage.
With NG+3 bugs have 3 effects, but with 1/3 damage on each.. etc.
Also the shields need to be buffed, either by default with each NG+, or give us a way to upgrade the shields.
My biggest problems when it come to the new game + was the mixr and the mantis boss the brood mother and queen bee were pretty good just those two I enjoy trying to find the milk molers tho but I know some people don’t like the hunt
The mixers are a pain. I just build mass amounts of overlapping radial walls. Like 400 mushroom bricks worth. You build enough walls they cant break through in time. Then just leave the extra walls that aren't broke for the next play through.
Armour upgrades past lvl9 and the chain reaction made from the infused explosions plus the spicy explosions are too powerful
Chain reaction?
I'm on ng+3 and stopped playing a few weeks ago, waiting for balances to make it fun and not a grind, we really need a way to re-roll effects with being able to lock one or two effects even if costing lots of raw science.
I think they should let us upgrade the armor like the weapons and let us add a specific type of damage resist so you can really fine tune your builds for each boss. Or maybe add some infused armor like the weapons that we can upgrade to 15. That would be fun!
Over 40s button in settings which adds 150 millisecond window in perfect parrying 😂 but I haven’t tried triple damage resist yet, the black ant pet, trinket and tier 4 weapon. Wouldn’t mind armour upgrades, especially widow armour😅. NG+ is about longevity playing the game, not just difficulty spike. So I am happy with grinding if it is fun. But yes, have to add progress to have fun grinding. In that, weapons should be 25 to 30 levels, not 15, even if max power is still the same. Fusion stones same amount over the max level (105?) as the grinding is about right or could be lessened slightly, but could also change formula of fusion stones and then increase amount needed to over 105. Each upgrade should be flat or exponential, not logarithmic like they have where the flat 25% increase is nearly 20% damage boost lvl 9 to lvl 10 but is really only 8% lvl 14 to lvl 15. I don’t mind exponential fusion stone per level because ooze is exponential per NG+. The too hard to survive are the combo hits from bosses and bugs. Especially when shield breaks/it’s had it’s limit of hits and your shield drops and you take a barrage of hits. Maybe a leveling system for your shield as well, so shield solidifier doesn’t take up precious space in your trinkets.
Grounded on Switch is one of my favorite games next to Metroid Prime Remastered and Super Mario 3D Allstars. It keeps amazing me. Real-time shadows from the headlamp. Light passing through foliage is always amazing looking. The beautifull sunsets. But a handful of crashes though in my 320 hours of gameplay. Still amazing! ❤❤ also, I suck at NG+ and I find it hard even on mild. 😢
I would love if the New Game + had Armor upgrade same as the weapons. I haven't been able to earn any achievements though, because I am "not good enough" to play on base game settings.
I’m not sure what they fully wanted ngl+ to be still, and as much as I know the player experience is ofc important, but idk to me ng+ is meant to be this massive difficulty turn up, and as much as some stuff does genuinely just feel stupid like the sour infusion, but still im on ng+4 and I don’t really mind it at all it is really hard but to me that’s what it’s all about, just trying to make myself better by playing more and more and learning new stuff even after hundreds and hundreds of hours of play time, some stuff definitely could change and maybe it should maybe it shouldn’t that’s not my place to say that, but idk I personally like how it is in most aspects, I don’t really want to be able to just fly through ng+’s I want it to be a massive achievement when someone says they’ve got to like ng+3 or something, still not exactly sure how I feel but I’ve been playing it for a good while now and I have a few breaks here and there but im really enjoying it currently, my main source of frustration comes from trying to grind good trinkets and infused weapons and they all just have like tenderfoot defence or victory feast or summon crit chance minor or something 😭
Hey Jade \o -- i would love to see the wasp armor reworked to shoot "magic" arrows that you dont' need to keep in inventor or pickup afterwords. Like in the old school D&D cartoon.
That would be so rad. Hank's ranger bow was one of the coolest weapons
I hate with the mint mace its ability when I’m doing mixrs im doing the most damage to my builds because of the smell
It may be a skill issue for me, but the sour affect on infused enemies is just broken. It deals way too much damage and stun locks you until you die. If you're in a defense event, and a sour ball hits a wall, it ricochets back and forth from another wall until they're destroyed, and they stick around forever.
yes, sour effect on enemies is really broken... there's nothing I'm afraid of more against any infused enemy than them having a sour effect...
improve slightly please the KATANAS, like give BURNING DAMAGE to them, or freezing effect, so slower attack to the mint version like 15% less speed
Did they finally fix the bug where I can't get my "From Downtown" achievement?? 😡 I come back every once in a while and do it again and it still won't pop.....
I’m glad I ain’t the only one struggling over the sour orbs from them new games lol. That stuff is so broken on ps5
I just wish there was a reason to get to ng4 and get the infused weapons like I did it the first week of the update and then haven’t gone back. I think the incentive is to use the weapons to reach ng10 but that’s just not enough of an incentive since it just gets repetitive and there’s still no way to choose or at least re roll stats on the infused weapons without killing the bosses 100s of times or save scumming like I killed 57 broodmothers for the perfect infused club only for them a few weeks later add a second passive to infused weapons meaning I’d have to do it all again to get a new club with 2 passives and level it up to 15 again which I just don’t want to do so I think there should be more incentives for higher ng+ levels or at least a way to either choose passives or fuse different weapons/trinkets to get the passive I personally want because its currently way too tedious
PS5 player here. I loved the base game but Ng+ was definitely less fun. The Mantis boss fight was a nightmare. Venom procs on the scream. A million sour balls come out if you take a hit. I did Platinum the game because it's great. I'm having a lot of fun in a custom run at the moment.
I am having a huge amount of trouble with the all the mixrs on new game+ and yeah the Mari’s boss was a struggle but you are able to beat it after a good few trys
I think it’s balanced pretty well as a ps4 player. Although it does feel like at times the difficulty ramps up out of no where. But I usually chalk that up to being a skill issue.
I'm playing on Switch, on airplane mode atm, because my character doesn't always load correctly and I lose a lot of progress.
A group of us friends started playing a couple months ago and think grounded has one of the best multiplayer experiences we've seen with the shared save system. We are very casual players that play at work and can't devote 100% of our attention to it. So when we heard your opinion of the new game plus mode, we just chose to go find a new game to play. We continue following your channel. Hoping to hear you have some good news so we can come back to grounded in the near future!
Wait what do you mean obsidian is moving on from groumded?
So this is the last update no more new features no more new items?
Do you have like a discord or something because I want to show you some of the videos that I have of bugs
all they need to do for balancing the difficulty is give armors limited upgrades based on the NG+ level, and maybe another effect at armor level 15 or so.
Get well soon ❤
I think the fans got something big planned like a new boss we just gotta wait for the devs
I hope they fix the Bard's Tudor crashing bug
Wat are ur top 3 bugs you want for grounded 2..? I really want a dragonfly boss, maybe a couple types of butterflies, and leaf cutter ants
Can anyone tell me the best build for the base game and going into NG+?
Jus the Sour Damage from infused creatures in New Game +
I want toaster boss. ):
You know, I don't think ng+ is that bad, sure it has plenty of problems and it's not really balanced but most of is still possible but there is one thing in ng+ that made me go crazy and I literally suffered from doing and this thing is the javamatic defense. I don't know where to start it is just so hard that it's not even fun. (I got to ng+ 2 btw)
Honestly it’s all about the trinket and mutations, use the guard dog and any annihilator mutations and a trinket with sour damage up and event attack and you will one shot everything without those it’s very difficult though! A sour staff is good against the flying enemies and sour battle axe destroys everything
5:00 that’s the stuff that keeps killing me on new game + the green lightning balls if an infused enemy has that I’m screwed
Need a way to lvl up armor and upgrade tier 1 and 2 gear for more builds.
I think this update is gonna have rideable mounts to get around faster and that would be the last edition to the game 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Loool nope no new content like that
OMG I really hope they dont break the Game again and FINALLY they finish updating it. 🤦🏻♂️ I Will wait to the update to turn My world into NG+
When is the release date for the new update?
Cheers for the update. Im nearly in ng+, just trying to finish up everything i can, one milk molar left to get. I found a way since the 1.4 update when they fixed the infected broodmother cheese method. There's still a way to get up high enough out of reach and cheese her with a bow. Killed her 7 time's now to get the armour and fungus bombs. Not seen any videos online showing my method, if you want i can send you the video to show how/where you can if you wanted to make a video on it?
Hey man a few people have sent it in past but if ya have new method sure shoot
@@JadePGC Its a place on the wall where you can jump up and get on a mushroom, and jump 2 more times up just out of reach. I recorded it on my xbox so i can only record my TV with my phone, kind of thing to get the video, unless you have an xbox account I could share it with?
Normal brood mother I’ve always tanked the shots and used a spicy mosquito blade as it passive heals with each hit pretty quick and efficient way yes you do take damage and need healbassa
@@Knightsking917 yup, normal broodmother is easy, I don't even block just use a mint mace hammer her down.
I'm on ng+ now after finally getting the 100% scorecard. Dang, you have to grind a lot here 😅
i think a few lvls of armour is all thats really needed combat wise! but yea the grind needs adjusting 4 sure im at about 700 hrs in and ng+2 but im starting to faulter just thru the grind
I wish we could do raids specifically through the waft emitter (no random raid) that allowed you to fight infused normal bugs guaranteed.
I just never now what u guys mean by new game + what is that ?
It's basically a reset of the world, with harder difficulty, but you keep all your stuff, and buildings around the world.
@@11KEBAB11and it adds new weapons
@@Pokaboy10 true, but that's easily found
Far better balance fixes in original and new game plus for IBM. That fight has nothing to do with skill. It's all luck. Tone down her debuffs. So skill actually makes a difference.
The biggest change I would like in the game, is a nerf to the IBM in normal and NG+, in both she is too difficult and having to defeat her t9 get 100% is too difficult, so it either should be the IBM shouldn't be apart of the requirements for 100%, or she needs to be nerfed
HA 169th like
(im childish)
What im hoping for who they make more balanced, three words
Infused infected broodmother
upgrade armor to 15 and make it infusable, buff mega milk molars and maybe normal, and tr to make the game less like fighting malenia
They need to change/balance the infected Broodmother. Changing difficulty does nothing
I can’t get the 100% report card because I killed the red ant queen right?
From someone who waited years to play this game cause I was on PS4/5 I can say I love this game. I got my Super Win that's how much I loved it! Butttttttt here's the thing, While I'm in end game It mostly doesn't feel like it. The nerfs to a lot of the OP builds that you'd grind hours for doesn't help. Its a SP game at heart with little to no PVP why are we nerfing builds and wasting peoples time? They've made it to where NG+ is a chore instead of fun. The trinket idea was a GREAT ONE but executed so VERY POORLY! NG+ your supposed to kind of yanno feel OP lmao. You have all your stuff from a previous save like you very much should be OP but they've made you feel even smaller than you already are lmao! They should've added a "Traditional" NG+ along with a Remixed NG+ for those who wanted the challenge. Not forcer there horrendous challenge on every player. I got my 100% started NG+1 Trucked it to the very end again for the Platinum. I haven't touched it since because I've been waiting on an update. Which hopefully fixes a lot of these issues.
Also just as a side note, I can imagine people at first speed running through NG+ then essentially getting Soft Locked because they didn't collect enough molars in lets say NG= 1 and 2 so now there on 3 and physically cannot tank the hits whatsoever and can no longer progress cause you have to literally beat the bosses to progress lmao! Just a terrible system they shouldn't have made the molars random and that's what really needs talked about as well. There is enough stuff to remember as is.
Hello, I'm pretty sure I'm pretty good at fighting games. But I'll be honest, NG+ sucks for me. It's not difficult, but it's not balanced at all. The game seems to want to force us to play with weapons that only require us to hold a shield. And what use are bows and staff in battle? Decreases all damage taken by 50% can't save my life. Because the staff from the infused insects dealt too much damage, it was crazy I love this game very much. But he made me feel like I was heartbroken
I want big bug with 20 legs or lizzy boy
tf
Ng+ is ez. I did the Java attic in ng+4 without a single point taking damage
I'd love to see Workshop support
NG2 the Mantis is impossible
I beat it ng+2 on medium
I still don't understand why people are complaining about elden rings dlc being too hard. Like its supposed to be hard do people not remember how hard every single souls like game was before you learned every enemy attack and got yhe best weapons and armor in the game....its supposed to be hard
teh main complaint is elden ring on its own isnt as punishing as previous souls games (maybe due to open world nature) and teh differenc ein difficulty spike is more noticeable with dlc, that aside grounded isnt dark souls you shouldnt need ninja reflexes to play the game
@JadePGCrafted oh I completely agree I started with elden ring and going to the other souls games were a pain especially sekiro man I still haven't beaten it and the grounded statement is true as well when I'm playing grounded I wanna have a fun time if I wanted to play dark souls I would play that lol
Mild new game plus should be so so easy u feel like a god. Any update yet?
My experience with Grounded on the Switch? Remove it from the Nintendo Shop!! This game is not meant for the underpowered hardware. This game looks and plays horribly on the Switch!
Tbf most survival games like these do
ez fix: just give trinkets and weps another buff
Bruuuuu Xbox servers are down
Not anymore
Turn down everything on the creatures like damage health and abilities. Its new game plus not 10, they have no clue what progression means
I think something big is coming to grounded 🔥🥇🔥🔥🔥🔥
Grounded was never allowed to live up to its full potential.
we need mushroom floors so we don't need to use weed stems or grass floors
Or a new boss and mounts as a new and final edition to the game
They need to just change the effects for bosses and bugs in general. This is especially to help even out the difficulties. The effects should be more of a newsence than a full on kill player like the sour mage mutagen, how it kind of stuns you. Get rid of the damage that the sour mage does for all bugs, because it is just to powerful in turns of how many spawn and how much damage it does. For the fire mage perk lower damage per seconds for each difficulties. Ice i think is fine it just slows you. Life leach should not trigger off of nearby building for some reason meaning screeching enemies can heal almost all there health aka the brood mother etc. New game + should be an increase in damage from insects by the main attacks and the side perks should not be how they currently are like that sour "mage," which just does way to much damage combined with stun. There are other perks also but you can come up with ways to balance those for your self. This is just my opinion and everyone has there own ideas. Oh one more thing for the explosive perk, make it have a timer for how often enemies can trigger it so it does not trigger on fast hitting enemies so often.
Fix the bug where buttons won't work in menus
I’ll be honest, I’m expect it to be a horrible balance patch. It seems like they just don’t care about new game plus and the updates are just to be there
Ng+ is meant to be brutally unfair for the fact that they’re doing balance changes kind of upsets me especially since me and my friend just got to it and I actually having a good time with what is going on sure it’s a bit hard here and there, but it’s perfectly balanced as is😊
Nope its reviews scores are going down because of it, they may not bslnce it that much but cetaily they need to fix certain attack and effects
@@JadePGC I understand now me and my friend were fighting assistant manager rear new game +1 this guy absolutely destroyed us by one of his minions having venom
The team is helping work on state of decay 3 I heard. Idk if that’s right tho
Na, they shared the shared world save technology that's it
I thought last video you made said they were done updating and patching??
No, as said content updates yes but they are supposed to be doing bug and balance patchs
Tbh this guy needs to work for ground
Just bought grounded gonna have a blast hopefully!
I'm ps5 I love it I'm on it constantly
Give candy t4 weapons 😭
Is this patch still coming or no?
Throwing multiple clubs and axes is the meta.
They need mod support
It felt like more of a chore than a challenge at times
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Wish we could lock certain saves.
It'd be crazy if they added the Lizard boss..
They killed the game for me ...
How does adding an optional end game for people kill the game? Nothing about it is required and adds additional gameplay for people who want it. Still the same base game.
More hp upgrades
whoop whoop!!!
I just want them 2 fix 100% so I can start NG+
You can activate the SPAC.R to see what you still have to do. I don't think it's bugged anymore, cause i got 100% not a lot of time ago
@@11KEBAB11 it isn't "broken" but I want them to go back to not needing gold card I got all locations all the molars n was happy to be almost done a guy I play with said I needed gold cards (I have 0 luck) haven't played since
@@coreyfaith69 that probably won't happen, cause to 100% a game really means 100% the game, and honestly speaking i had all the gold cards before NG+, and was decently lucky except like a few, tadpoles was hell, IBM was annoying, larva just didn't want to give in
@@11KEBAB11 they removed it once I just didn't get to play at that time I just gotta hope they are smart enough to go back and if they do I can enjoy the game again if not I got other stuff
@@coreyfaith69 you'll have enough pain to go through NG+ anyway, so why not just do it anyway?
The scaling of all the options the player has is whats upsetting. NG is finally perfectly balanced with nearly everything having it's place.
NG+ breaks this, many things dont scale at all making the gaps between the players options significant.
It’s crazy how entitled gamers have become.
Whose entitled? Ganes in early access love feedback, grounded was built on community feedback. So what's different now?
Under 1hour gang
Just over 1hr gang 😢
@@thehokage7642 lol
Same, usually a minute 30 if shes pretty