Policy changes like 7aa, although impacts are aimed towards Māori, are also gaging the temperature of middle nu zilund; does middle nu zilund care about Māori issues? will they stand alongside Māori and protest too or can we the govt push further? Does middle nu zilund understand that it is the govts obligations to Te Tiriti that prevents deep sea oil drilling from having a catastrophic impact on our coastlines, it is Te Tiriti that has forced councils to seek alternatives to dumping sewage into our rivers and oceans. It has been through Te Tiriti that pressure has successfully forced govt and local council to better manage farmers from letting their stock pollute the waterways. While Te Ao Māori struggles for the right to our own reo, electoral options, and access to our tamariki who end up in care, we are also struggling for the wellbeing of the whenua and wai that provides life to us all. On the face it may appear that these policies are only targeting Māori but the ramifications will be felt by all who call Aotearoa NZ home
There is no struggle with the government to speak Maori. My Indian, Austrian and Chinese friends all speak their own language at home. Maori can do the same. If Maori families didn't bash their kids then they wouldn't be taken off them. The well being of land and water is managed by government and councils and is of interest to all Kiwis. Playing the blame game instead of sorting out the problems of your own doing is only going to keep Maori back. Btw I'm Maori. 29:50
@@brentreid7408 what a load of racist twaddle 🥱🥱 Your friends, as do you, have homelands where their/your native tongue thrives, and is part of every facet of life. Choosing to migrate requires understanding of possibly needing to learn a new language, sometimes two, in order to adapt to their new home. Many migrants are learning Te Reo and do not understand the fear of middle nu zilund or the tax waste going into reversing previous policy to satisfy the loud and racist minority. Also, the children and grandchildren of migrants often quickly lose their native tongues to the dominant language they live within IF they don’t have strong community connections to their culture around them. Why are middle nu zilund happy to sit by and see Māori development stifled? There are approx 225,000 Māori children under the age of 15. Around 4400 are in state care so less than 2% of our child population. Our babies are AT HOME!! Of those approx 4400 Māori children in State care, 90% of their parents were also in State care; ya know that big report that came out a couple weeks ago that said the State done all sorts of horrible things to them, and MOST weren’t taken for any reasons other than racism. State learned violence, why does middle nu zilund accept victim blaming? 🤔 Councils dumping sewage into rivers is common in NZ. Some have been forced through Te Tiriti and fines to change their ways and the world hasn’t fallen apart for the river not reeking like crap (The fines stay public money before your racism cries Māori are fining councils). Does middle nu zilund want to go backwards? Everything that you typed is political establishment talking points that you don’t care one iota for. The racism blinds from being able to come up with any real solutions. Take a bow 🙇♂️
@@brentreid7408 what a load of racist twaddle 🥱🥱 Those friends have homelands where their native tongue thrives, and is part of every facet of life. NZ is the ONLY land in the world where Te Reo can be found so it should be uplifted PERIOD. Only racism and desire stop it. Also, the children and grandchildren of migrants will often quickly lose their native tongues to the dominant language they live within IF they don’t have strong community connections to their culture around them. There are approx 225,000 Māori children under the age of 15. Around 4400 are in state care so less than 2% of our child population is in State Care. Our babies are AT HOME!! Of those approx 4400 Māori children in State care, 90% of their parents were also in State care; remember that big report that came out a couple weeks ago that said those kids had all sorts of horrible things to them, and MOST weren’t taken for any reasons other than racism. Councils dumping sewage into rivers is common in NZ. Some have been forced through Te Tiriti and fines to change their ways and the world hasn’t fallen apart for the river not being full of 💩(The fines are legally imposed and stays public money before the racism has people crying Māori are fining councils). Lol being Māori doesn’t stop a person from enacting someone else’s cultural loathing upon Māori. There are sellouts in every culture
24:16 Chloe Swarbrick .... the point is Lux Flakes doesn't know. He hasn't lived in this country for long enough. He's been away, a long time, on his big o/e. USA etc. He's out of touch and ignorant of his Native Land. It shows up all the time.
Brownlee should be kicked out and banned from parliament with his partisanship in his role as Speaker for trying to save Luxon from that question. Just like his own electorate kicked him out when he tried to steal 40% of christchurch central for his greenbelt plan
The coalition of chaos will only bring in division and animosity through their policies and ideologies. I would expect to see a lot more protesting. And with the anger out there towards the government it could easily turn violent. Hopefully it doesn’t, but we have an inexperienced weak leader who’s in over his head with coalition parties like ACT and Seymour running out of control.
We are ALREADY vbeing more and more divided by the behaviour, demands, rhetoric, aggression and violence of Maori activists. THe overwhelming majority of New Zealanders feel that they are being separated and blamed for everything; that everything that Maori does is virtuous, that they are in no way responsibille for anything that has happened. Maori themselves have to step up to making the difference for their people and stop blaming eveyrone else who has worked hard to progress themselves and who are now paying andpaying and paying taxes for everything to do with Maori.
@tpaine1815 where do you get 'overwhelming majority' from. The group you are alluding to has been very vocal, from early covid times and through the election process - very vocal and their angry rhetoric legitimised. We don't yet know about the underlying resistance to that. Some of us are just waiting for some organising process to inform us of a way to show our support for Maori. I expect and certainly hope for more marches. This government is not as popular as they think they are.
@@tpaine1815you are kidding right? Reading your opening statement I could've sworn you were referring to the violent rhetoric parroted by the likes of you, Seymore and his other well heeled cronies. The real cause of the issues currently being experienced is "you people" are finally bring called out for your blatant Racist, Nazi behavior. Take a breath and think where does the source of my hatred stem from and why do I feel so entitled to call out another ethnicity for what I perceive is not being done?
20:55 Luxon doesn't care. He wants to live in Australia. He's said so. (Despite having to simplify the language he uses when addressing them ...). His kids are grounded there - nationality, education. He'd live there, if he didn't have/want to be the PM of our poor country. Poor being the operative word. But then, he would have no chance of becoming the Australian PM. ... its all about the CV lol
Luxon has blood on his hand with the reversing of the smoking ban. Initially 67% wanted it, then over 80% of people in NZ wanted it. Including smokers. 5000 lives a year will die now. Shocking government. They’re doing what the libs in Aussie tried to do. Under resource the public health, education and prisons so they privatise it can give it to their wealthy mates that funded his campaign. Vote them out.
Yes, even those who voted for change didn’t mean a full on attack on everything Maori. It’s spiteful and there are many Tangata Tiriti like me joining the resistance already.
NO, the "assault" is NOT disgusting. It is you who has decided that everything that haoppens to Maori is an assault. and an insult. This is NOT the case, but if you decide this, then you are going to be disgusted.
@@tpaine1815 Your use of caps gave it away. Let me guess, you’re super happy about 5000 people dying, 1000 of these, being Maori each year and all New Zealanders having to pay $5B for health care. This is despite over 80% of wanting the smoking ban. Luxon reversing this ban, with the guise of ‘freedom’, would appeal to people who post comments such as you did.
it amuses me that several viewers think Maori views and or culture are being forces on them. History showed colonisation was forced onto Maori, and over many years, we as a country were slowly recognising this and were heading towards a united New Zealand. But now we have a small population who want to take New Zealand back to segregation through division. It is nothing new it's happening all over the world. I'm interested in knowing if Moari are getting the preferable treatment, tell how many Millionaire Maori are in this country
It is NOT a small population that feels this. It is actually the majority - or you wouldn't have got this government elected. The fact of "forced" colonialisation cannot now be seen as justification for forced Maorification upon the rest of the New Zealand population. TWO WRONGS DO NOT MAKE A RIGHT> Think about this - this latter forcing is not UNITING people. In fact, it is far from it - it is now increasingly dividing New Zealanders. THe TREATY IS NOT the great document that Maori activists glaim to jstify their power grab upon - yes power grab that is vastly beyond their demographic numbers.
If it wasn’t for the British Maori would have carried on annihilating themselves with tribal warfare. Also French were wanting to invade NZ and Maori feared them. The Maori wanted British protection from their own kind and the French. They gave up their sovereignty 21:14 wanting British to look after them. The treaty was never offered as a partnership or giving Maori to have their own governances
If you turn over the coin and look at things from both perspectives you can see that with the focus on Maori victimhood and desire to right wrongs we have a rapid introduction of a Maori worldview and demands to be treated in a 'different' way to generations who saw themselves as kiwis together as one for decades. They now find themselves being asked to focus on differences - language, culture, rights between those who could claim 'indigenous' history and the rest who can't. The Treaty has has not brought lasting unity, peace and respect but is now being used to claim differences and division. It's already gone beyond 'dialing down the rhetoric'. Whatever we cannot ignore that parliament is a crown institution responsible for governance in a democratic society. What is each side really expecting - an abandonment of crown values and embrace of Maori ones or vice versa? Until they can agree to hear each other and compromise for the benefit of ALL kiwis. The present government coalition won the election because many trusted they would promote crown values and democratic governance for ALL kiwis equally. TPM, Greens and Labour lost because they clearly promoted a more divisive way ahead!
Lol, "we know we hurt them for nothing more than their race, but just pretend that didn't happen and doesn't have knock on affects!" Seriously? Should we follow the same for criminals, the crimes done now, lets just ignore the victims and the damage done. Hmmm, it's very telling that's it's fine for you to do to a 'certain' group of people, but not for anyone else in any other situation. And perhaps you should START adhering to the treaty, ever thought that not doing your half is an issue? You'd complain if you worked all week and didn't get paid, wouldn't be happy for an employer to not adhere to your contract, but it's fine if you do it Maori, right? What a hypocrite
You say the treaty hasnt bought unity peace and respect in nz lol because it hasn't been honored it's like a contract you sign for a job ...but you don't get paid!!!
Marc, Luxon's job now is the leader of the New Zealand government and not the national party. With a coalition he can not be both and should not try to be.
Richard Dawkins, a world Reon own biologist and staunch atheist, often refers to the Maori, claiming to have a different or unique type of ‘knowing’, as something that is complete gobbledygook and hocus locus nonsense. I find it surprising that he overlooks the ‘evidence’ of the novel and testable predictions that Maori people have made on almost every policy or legislation that has negatively impacted New Zealand, when it comes to environmental impact. It seems that having an intergenerational narrative of ‘mother earth’ literally being your Mother, as the Maori stories share, may have a deep impact on ‘knowing’, not only with direct policy that we know of, yet the whole ‘governance’ and ‘ownership’ mess, that most pakeha ‘crown’ thinking presents.
1 Person 1 vote! Democracy! Pacifica are classed as Pakeha, which is a great thing, they perform well on social indicators within 1 generation. Democracy 1 vote per person is so important. Think about it ! In a 100 years our population will end up being homogenized to an extent. So what will happen? So a person with 1.95 % DNA of Māori….. has special treatment based on DNA…. Should we need DNA tests to see who gets the special treatment? It’s B/S
Thanks guys, you do a good job :-). Tim needs to watch out for 'apologists' creep' ... Marc's revelation that he is paid by the word makes me think of road cones lol. I wish him all the best in Azerbaijan ... and to take care. Feel free to edit out all my comments lol
@@JamesSumner-Goodwin That would be a very silly idea considering how much of our army have iwi connections. And in the end, Maori don't want to violence, we want to be treated like human beings and not just our race.
Ask the Question prior to the last election can anyone find Barney Rubble AKA ACTs leader the Crash Test Dummy of Aotearoa Nz Politics position on any of the current issues directly involving Maori, ZERO!! It’s simply political gaslighting for one’s own political existence, with YODA AKA Uncle Winston the master and despite Barney Rubbles refuting of his political mentor instead fully aligned himself to his mentor’s manifesto!!!fortunately for all Aotearoa Nz, Nz First Shines and Burns on the very basis being its seemingly populist political position sinking faster than the titanic with Barney Rubble the conductor of the ACT orchestra going down with the ship!
100% agree but similarly ACTs Barney Rubble David Seymour thankfully doesn’t speak for most Kiwis,I don’t believe any of the political rhetoric, it’s certainly not a takeover or civil war situation, simply to identify our culture identity and give it the respect and inclusion as I like most sincerely is and always has been a partnership to the benefit of all Nzers disproportionately which again needs to be addressed which I think most Maori believe?!
NZ is multi ethnic country fats ALL LIVES MATTER not sure how this anything will unfold, the on going racism back lash is ugly out look for the next younger generation! NO judgement facts many ethnic NZ people including none Maori have also had some upset childhood's been state care had their babies put into any family care of all caultre including Maori none child carers their babies this over many years which under different circumstances, not judge anyone But their maybe background evidence of any past present family abuse or domestic voilence maybe or do bad criminal or what ever is looked at to even child services to even be their at your door or birth its a tragic long sad story may all children feel safe cared for all across NZ of any race simple just bless us all! Maybe looking at teenagers age group most know right to wrong and have respect for all NZ people of what ever back ground race respect is given by most AS age to adulthood again most all know RIGHT TO WRONG and should follow the NZ legal law system many behave in the community school to staff, other young people or older or yep, same age just in public yes at home schools, respect their parents, family members, neighbour ect.......who ever in their community lets say.... However just being kind to each others...'' respect for ALL PEOPLE'' from all or any countries all different walks of life no matter their race, ethnic back ground maori or non Maori! As adults its very possible for many who made choices to chose how they behave and went through their life how they formed shaped their own life, besides child abuse ect many as adults made choices that did not harm anyone or brake the law join gangs not behave in maybe sad way to be for their self maybe or behalf towards others including their own families, friends towns just other people TRAGIC heart braking stores but most did choose to how we want their live to end up who also went state child care ect.. bad child things happened to some people who CHOSE NOT TO course harm or do crime ect just decided to live their life in different ways, maybe...no ones perfect in this world! Bless NZ & ALL IS AMAZING PEOPLE ;-) Hope we all can feel the good vibes across New Zealand for All people should just life in good harmony and peace being kind to each other
The country called New Zealand :) Why do certain white people of New Zealand called themselves Pakeha for? Like these 3 people, fair enough you can called yourself anything you want in life, more educational words would be white New Zealand, Non maori person, mixed maori, mixed Asian, Caucasian, European mixed, Asian, Indian, South African mixed, etc
Well you're trying very hard, aren't you? You can cry as much as you want that people are talking about you and your opinions, but it won't stop people from looking at you and wondering "why is this person supporting changing a contract based on nothing more than one side's race? And why are they shutting them out of it while changing it?"
Would the Korean Government write to the New Zealand Government in Korean? No, they'd send an invitation in English. So why do you expect the NZ Govt to write to the Australian Govt in te reo Māori?
@@adriandocherty778 to be fair, given how woke the Albo Govt is over there, they probably wouldn't have cared and would have replied with a long 'welcome to the country from which this reply comes' in their reply. I guess the Nat minister just wanted to make a point - he writes in English.
Te Parti Maori do have some very poignant Colonial Issues from the past.... But just need a whole different approach to the whole Treaty.... Like more "Peaceful Solutions".....
Not just the past, even in the last election the guy caught destroying their offices wasn't even charged. Meanwhile the guy that spray painted Gerry Brownlee's office a couple years go got charged, convicted and got his sentence. Show's there's still a two tiered system, even when some people want to ignore it
If a race war comes and God forbid that happens, it's roots are not this coalition. Have you not yet comprehended that the majority of Nz have had enough of thier own culture being cast as illegitimate. Being described as evil and colonial regardless those labels are thrown bluntly on us just for not being maori. My observation is that Seymour for instance has pushed back against the hate and arrogance of the Maori party... out here people who have had enough of being canceled unless you agree to convert to the views of a minority and abused if you don't... well they relate. The push back is driven not by the coalition but by patience with the bully woke agenda running out. You three are drunk on the coolaide and out of touch with ordinary people... tha fact you don't see that says it all
Have you looked at what is happening in the UK and Ireland? I for one support the English and Irish standing up for their culture. Multiculturalism only works for migrants who take the time to assimilate with the people of the land. You know the saying when in Rome, or when we travel to Muslim countries observe the local customs or bear the consequences. When you speak about cancel culture when has that ever applied to Non Maori in Aotearoa ? However, what I take offence to is "you people" daring to have an opinion on Maori culture, customs and beliefs. Let me be very clear if there was a race war here and I sincerely hope there is not. It would not be instigated by Tangata Whenua. Also, I suggest you take some time to educate yourself about Te Pati Maori when did is become racist to ascert ones right to exist and practice ones beliefs. Unless, of course you prefer to live openingly with apartheid?
@@suniap3091 Naive and out of touch. If you have no comprehension of how under assault tradition and culture of non maori is here you must live under a rock. And given the only party openly talking about direct action is the Maori party ( totally belittling the normal protocols of the parliament in the process). Your assertion any trouble must start with Maori the target is again contrary to the obvious display before us and Naive at best. You object but we the ordinary people ( and my family is Asian not English) object even more. So many I know who used to be totally accepting of Maori culture have been so dismayed they no longer want anything to do with it... a total fail for the liberal agenda. Most of us have just had enough of being lectured and I fear many no longer will even consider engaging.
@@pstrwaka7901You're generalizing when using the word "WE" I'm pakeha and I don't agree with this far right fascist Maori hating govt so I don't agree with your assumptions 😊
Maori have those rights already what they are pushing for now is the right to enshrine their worldview and values in what is no longer a maori, tribal society. Some of this is good but some conflicts with western, democratic values and beliefs. Being mutually respectful and working together rather than division is a way forward but that takes each group listening respectfully to the other. Even the Maori King spoke to this not so long ago. He spoke in a way that brings non maori to the table but what TPM and some other are doing is fueling division not unity. @suniap3091
Maori should have their culture and nurture it for themselves . Most cultures take care of theirs rather than expect everyone else to to adapt to theirs . The colonisers allowed NZ to become a global partner . Isolated cultures have aright to exist but we have to be able to function and progress in the wider world . The Maori language is being forced on all of NZ . The language is now mixed and sounds terrible !
You're right, we need two governments were Maori can govern themselves and take care their own. health, land and assets and language and culture. Maybe they could come up with a contract perhaps to make this happen? Maybe a treaty?
WE would, if you lot paid your bill for stealing land. But you went through parliament to say Maori didn't have the same rights of having stolen property returned to them. Only 2% that everyone else gets. And you want to pretend it's equal.
New Zealand First is strongly supported by Maori voters so don't reduce Maori to being people who only sympathise with Te Pati Maori.. Your left-wing buddies created the platform for all this chaotic behavior. If Labour had used their time wisely and made impactful changes to people's daily lives, especially those who live below the breadline, we'd all be less uptight now. Instead, a social experiment played out with virtue signals aplenty and over-racializing of almost everything, it was division with "kindness" and the roll back to a neutral non-racial space seems racist because of this. It's incredible how much brain damage appears to have been incurred.
"Three Pakeha here." What exactly does Pakeha mean? It is race-bound? Ethnicity-bound? Skin-colour dependent? Rooted in a historical link to colonist arrivals in the 1800s? Wouldn't it be more constructive, in terms of getting away from unhelpful (racist) rhetoric, to speak of Māori and non-Māori, or indigenous and non-indigenous, or tangata whenua and tangata tiriti? Pakeha keeps us in the past.
I'm Maori and grew up with the word pakeha in the 1960's and 70's. Race relations back then were good. Pakeha was just a word to define white skinned New Zealanders. Other nationalities were called what they were eg Chinese, Scottish, Indian, Pom (English). Somehow it has become negative.
@@stipecurin11it doesn't mean that we don't call ourselves Maori either it's your pakeha word for us we aren't crying about it what were we supposed to call u we couldn't speak English ffs we had never seen pakeha/Europeans from the other side of world here in Polynesia/Te Moana nui a kiwa (The great sea of kiwa)
Policy changes like 7aa, although impacts are aimed towards Māori, are also gaging the temperature of middle nu zilund; does middle nu zilund care about Māori issues? will they stand alongside Māori and protest too or can we the govt push further? Does middle nu zilund understand that it is the govts obligations to Te Tiriti that prevents deep sea oil drilling from having a catastrophic impact on our coastlines, it is Te Tiriti that has forced councils to seek alternatives to dumping sewage into our rivers and oceans. It has been through Te Tiriti that pressure has successfully forced govt and local council to better manage farmers from letting their stock pollute the waterways. While Te Ao Māori struggles for the right to our own reo, electoral options, and access to our tamariki who end up in care, we are also struggling for the wellbeing of the whenua and wai that provides life to us all.
On the face it may appear that these policies are only targeting Māori but the ramifications will be felt by all who call Aotearoa NZ home
Yo! Tautoko cuz.
Stuff the T, it is a time warp back to Racism. Just think of DNA test in 20years. Who gets the extra handout!
There is no struggle with the government to speak Maori. My Indian, Austrian and Chinese friends all speak their own language at home. Maori can do the same. If Maori families didn't bash their kids then they wouldn't be taken off them. The well being of land and water is managed by government and councils and is of interest to all Kiwis. Playing the blame game instead of sorting out the problems of your own doing is only going to keep Maori back. Btw I'm Maori. 29:50
@@brentreid7408 what a load of racist twaddle 🥱🥱
Your friends, as do you, have homelands where their/your native tongue thrives, and is part of every facet of life. Choosing to migrate requires understanding of possibly needing to learn a new language, sometimes two, in order to adapt to their new home. Many migrants are learning Te Reo and do not understand the fear of middle nu zilund or the tax waste going into reversing previous policy to satisfy the loud and racist minority.
Also, the children and grandchildren of migrants often quickly lose their native tongues to the dominant language they live within IF they don’t have strong community connections to their culture around them. Why are middle nu zilund happy to sit by and see Māori development stifled?
There are approx 225,000 Māori children under the age of 15. Around 4400 are in state care so less than 2% of our child population. Our babies are AT HOME!!
Of those approx 4400 Māori children in State care, 90% of their parents were also in State care; ya know that big report that came out a couple weeks ago that said the State done all sorts of horrible things to them, and MOST weren’t taken for any reasons other than racism. State learned violence, why does middle nu zilund accept victim blaming? 🤔
Councils dumping sewage into rivers is common in NZ. Some have been forced through Te Tiriti and fines to change their ways and the world hasn’t fallen apart for the river not reeking like crap (The fines stay public money before your racism cries Māori are fining councils). Does middle nu zilund want to go backwards?
Everything that you typed is political establishment talking points that you don’t care one iota for. The racism blinds from being able to come up with any real solutions. Take a bow 🙇♂️
@@brentreid7408 what a load of racist twaddle 🥱🥱 Those friends have homelands where their native tongue thrives, and is part of every facet of life. NZ is the ONLY land in the world where Te Reo can be found so it should be uplifted PERIOD. Only racism and desire stop it.
Also, the children and grandchildren of migrants will often quickly lose their native tongues to the dominant language they live within IF they don’t have strong community connections to their culture around them.
There are approx 225,000 Māori children under the age of 15. Around 4400 are in state care so less than 2% of our child population is in State Care. Our babies are AT HOME!!
Of those approx 4400 Māori children in State care, 90% of their parents were also in State care; remember that big report that came out a couple weeks ago that said those kids had all sorts of horrible things to them, and MOST weren’t taken for any reasons other than racism.
Councils dumping sewage into rivers is common in NZ. Some have been forced through Te Tiriti and fines to change their ways and the world hasn’t fallen apart for the river not being full of 💩(The fines are legally imposed and stays public money before the racism has people crying Māori are fining councils).
Lol being Māori doesn’t stop a person from enacting someone else’s cultural loathing upon Māori. There are sellouts in every culture
24:16 Chloe Swarbrick .... the point is Lux Flakes doesn't know. He hasn't lived in this country for long enough. He's been away, a long time, on his big o/e. USA etc. He's out of touch and ignorant of his Native Land. It shows up all the time.
Brownlee should be kicked out and banned from parliament with his partisanship in his role as Speaker for trying to save Luxon from that question. Just like his own electorate kicked him out when he tried to steal 40% of christchurch central for his greenbelt plan
The coalition of chaos will only bring in division and animosity through their policies and ideologies. I would expect to see a lot more protesting. And with the anger out there towards the government it could easily turn violent. Hopefully it doesn’t, but we have an inexperienced weak leader who’s in over his head with coalition parties like ACT and Seymour running out of control.
luxon def makes me feel violent, towards him.
We are ALREADY vbeing more and more divided by the behaviour, demands, rhetoric, aggression and violence of Maori activists. THe overwhelming majority of New Zealanders feel that they are being separated and blamed for everything; that everything that Maori does is virtuous, that they are in no way responsibille for anything that has happened. Maori themselves have to step up to making the difference for their people and stop blaming eveyrone else who has worked hard to progress themselves and who are now paying andpaying and paying taxes for everything to do with Maori.
@tpaine1815 where do you get 'overwhelming majority' from. The group you are alluding to has been very vocal, from early covid times and through the election process - very vocal and their angry rhetoric legitimised. We don't yet know about the underlying resistance to that. Some of us are just waiting for some organising process to inform us of a way to show our support for Maori. I expect and certainly hope for more marches. This government is not as popular as they think they are.
@@tpaine1815you are kidding right? Reading your opening statement I could've sworn you were referring to the violent rhetoric parroted by the likes of you, Seymore and his other well heeled cronies. The real cause of the issues currently being experienced is "you people" are finally bring called out for your blatant Racist, Nazi behavior. Take a breath and think where does the source of my hatred stem from and why do I feel so entitled to call out another ethnicity for what I perceive is not being done?
@@tpaine1815Well said the truth hurts, the part Māori need to get a grip and stop moaning about there own down fall.
This government has forgotten what country they live in and with whom we share it with.
20:55 Luxon doesn't care. He wants to live in Australia. He's said so. (Despite having to simplify the language he uses when addressing them ...). His kids are grounded there - nationality, education. He'd live there, if he didn't have/want to be the PM of our poor country. Poor being the operative word. But then, he would have no chance of becoming the Australian PM. ... its all about the CV lol
Luxon has blood on his hand with the reversing of the smoking ban.
Initially 67% wanted it, then over 80% of people in NZ wanted it. Including smokers.
5000 lives a year will die now.
Shocking government.
They’re doing what the libs in Aussie tried to do. Under resource the public health, education and prisons so they privatise it can give it to their wealthy mates that funded his campaign.
Vote them out.
Pakeha are opposed too, to this vile approach and divisive Coalition
Nope we support the coalition.
Yes, even those who voted for change didn’t mean a full on attack on everything Maori. It’s spiteful and there are many Tangata Tiriti like me joining the resistance already.
Kia Ora brother✊️our MANAKI is strong with MOST KIWIS. We care and hold true to ALL from Aotearoa.
@@andrewm8610🤡
This Pakeha is sick of the racism toward Maori. We must stand with Maori!
The assault on Maori is disgusting! Tangata Tiriti need to stand with Maori!
Thank you for your mahi.
Ah keep quiet ya old crone
NO, the "assault" is NOT disgusting. It is you who has decided that everything that haoppens to Maori is an assault. and an insult. This is NOT the case, but if you decide this, then you are going to be disgusted.
@@tpaine1815maybe you could spell properly than you might be taken seriously 😅
@@tpaine1815
Your use of caps gave it away.
Let me guess, you’re super happy about 5000 people dying, 1000 of these, being Maori each year and all New Zealanders having to pay $5B for health care.
This is despite over 80% of wanting the smoking ban.
Luxon reversing this ban, with the guise of ‘freedom’, would appeal to people who post comments such as you did.
@@tpaine1815 okay boomer 🤣
Great debate and discussion Newsroom.
Being pushed into a corner is never good
it amuses me that several viewers think Maori views and or culture are being forces on them. History showed colonisation was forced onto Maori, and over many years, we as a country were slowly recognising this and were heading towards a united New Zealand. But now we have a small population who want to take New Zealand back to segregation through division. It is nothing new it's happening all over the world. I'm interested in knowing if Moari are getting the preferable treatment, tell how many Millionaire Maori are in this country
It is NOT a small population that feels this. It is actually the majority - or you wouldn't have got this government elected. The fact of "forced" colonialisation cannot now be seen as justification for forced Maorification upon the rest of the New Zealand population. TWO WRONGS DO NOT MAKE A RIGHT> Think about this - this latter forcing is not UNITING people. In fact, it is far from it - it is now increasingly dividing New Zealanders. THe TREATY IS NOT the great document that Maori activists glaim to jstify their power grab upon - yes power grab that is vastly beyond their demographic numbers.
If it wasn’t for the British Maori would have carried on annihilating themselves with tribal warfare. Also French were wanting to invade NZ and Maori feared them. The Maori wanted British protection from their own kind and the French. They gave up their sovereignty 21:14 wanting British to look after them. The treaty was never offered as a partnership or giving Maori to have their own governances
@@GerardWoodif British didn’t colonise u wouldn’t be here!!
@@adriandocherty778 yep. I would agree with that
@@GerardWood😂 what dripple ..
Like, make a Sub-Committee to rectify the Main-Committee.
If you turn over the coin and look at things from both perspectives you can see that with the focus on Maori victimhood and desire to right wrongs we have a rapid introduction of a Maori worldview and demands to be treated in a 'different' way to generations who saw themselves as kiwis together as one for decades. They now find themselves being asked to focus on differences - language, culture, rights between those who could claim 'indigenous' history and the rest who can't. The Treaty has has not brought lasting unity, peace and respect but is now being used to claim differences and division. It's already gone beyond 'dialing down the rhetoric'. Whatever we cannot ignore that parliament is a crown institution responsible for governance in a democratic society. What is each side really expecting - an abandonment of crown values and embrace of Maori ones or vice versa? Until they can agree to hear each other and compromise for the benefit of ALL kiwis. The present government coalition won the election because many trusted they would promote crown values and democratic governance for ALL kiwis equally. TPM, Greens and Labour lost because they clearly promoted a more divisive way ahead!
Absolutely spot on.
Lol, "we know we hurt them for nothing more than their race, but just pretend that didn't happen and doesn't have knock on affects!"
Seriously? Should we follow the same for criminals, the crimes done now, lets just ignore the victims and the damage done. Hmmm, it's very telling that's it's fine for you to do to a 'certain' group of people, but not for anyone else in any other situation.
And perhaps you should START adhering to the treaty, ever thought that not doing your half is an issue?
You'd complain if you worked all week and didn't get paid, wouldn't be happy for an employer to not adhere to your contract, but it's fine if you do it Maori, right?
What a hypocrite
You say the treaty hasnt bought unity peace and respect in nz lol because it hasn't been honored it's like a contract you sign for a job ...but you don't get paid!!!
Marc, Luxon's job now is the leader of the New Zealand government and not the national party. With a coalition he can not be both and should not try to be.
Richard Dawkins, a world Reon own biologist and staunch atheist, often refers to the Maori, claiming to have a different or unique type of ‘knowing’, as something that is complete gobbledygook and hocus locus nonsense.
I find it surprising that he overlooks the ‘evidence’ of the novel and testable predictions that Maori people have made on almost every policy or legislation that has negatively impacted New Zealand, when it comes to environmental impact.
It seems that having an intergenerational narrative of ‘mother earth’ literally being your Mother, as the Maori stories share, may have a deep impact on ‘knowing’, not only with direct policy that we know of, yet the whole ‘governance’ and ‘ownership’ mess, that most pakeha ‘crown’ thinking presents.
Laura's comments 10:40 onwards ... hear hear!!!!! Unbelievable. WHO asked for all this ????
1 Person 1 vote! Democracy! Pacifica are classed as Pakeha, which is a great thing, they perform well on social indicators within 1 generation.
Democracy 1 vote per person is so important.
Think about it ! In a 100 years our population will end up being homogenized to an extent. So what will happen? So a person with 1.95 % DNA of Māori….. has special treatment based on DNA…. Should we need DNA tests to see who gets the special treatment? It’s B/S
U obviously don’t know any Pacifica aye Palagi!!🤣😂
@@adriandocherty778 yes I do know Pacifica here in Chch.so what is your point?
@@robertmiller2173 by your reasoning u wouldn’t have called them Pacifica u would have called them?? ______
Great insights Thanks
Thanks guys, you do a good job :-). Tim needs to watch out for 'apologists' creep' ... Marc's revelation that he is paid by the word makes me think of road cones lol. I wish him all the best in Azerbaijan ... and to take care. Feel free to edit out all my comments lol
Maybe they are just trying to overwhelm Maori Psyche
National has always been divisive, that's the way they roll. Certainly nothing too be proud of.
11:58 comments re Goldsmith. Nah, not malicious. Just lazy. Ignorant. I think he's actually embarrassed.
He's actually embarassing !!
This could end in civil war. That’s all I have to say
The sooner the better.. Get it outta the system
@@JamesSumner-Goodwin That would be a very silly idea considering how much of our army have iwi connections. And in the end, Maori don't want to violence, we want to be treated like human beings and not just our race.
@@JamesSumner-Goodwin 😆 😅
Ask the Question prior to the last election can anyone find Barney Rubble AKA ACTs leader the Crash Test Dummy of Aotearoa Nz Politics position on any of the current issues directly involving Maori, ZERO!! It’s simply political gaslighting for one’s own political existence, with YODA AKA Uncle Winston the master and despite Barney Rubbles refuting of his political mentor instead fully aligned himself to his mentor’s manifesto!!!fortunately for all Aotearoa Nz, Nz First Shines and Burns on the very basis being its seemingly populist political position sinking faster than the titanic with Barney Rubble the conductor of the ACT orchestra going down with the ship!
The Maori party doesn't represent all Maori only a smallsection
100% agree but similarly ACTs Barney Rubble David Seymour thankfully doesn’t speak for most Kiwis,I don’t believe any of the political rhetoric, it’s certainly not a takeover or civil war situation, simply to identify our culture identity and give it the respect and inclusion as I like most sincerely is and always has been a partnership to the benefit of all Nzers disproportionately which again needs to be addressed which I think most Maori believe?!
NZ is multi ethnic country fats ALL LIVES MATTER not sure how this anything will unfold, the on going racism back lash is ugly out look for the next younger generation! NO judgement facts many ethnic NZ people including none Maori have also had some upset childhood's been state care had their babies put into any family care of all caultre including Maori none child carers their babies this over many years which under different circumstances, not judge anyone But their maybe background evidence of any past present family abuse or domestic voilence maybe or do bad criminal or what ever is looked at to even child services to even be their at your door or birth its a tragic long sad story may all children feel safe cared for all across NZ of any race simple just bless us all! Maybe looking at teenagers age group most know right to wrong and have respect for all NZ people of what ever back ground race respect is given by most AS age to adulthood again most all know RIGHT TO WRONG and should follow the NZ legal law system many behave in the community school to staff, other young people or older or yep, same age just in public yes at home schools, respect their parents, family members, neighbour ect.......who ever in their community lets say.... However just being kind to each others...'' respect for ALL PEOPLE'' from all or any countries all different walks of life no matter their race, ethnic back ground maori or non Maori! As adults its very possible for many who made choices to chose how they behave and went through their life how they formed shaped their own life, besides child abuse ect many as adults made choices that did not harm anyone or brake the law join gangs not behave in maybe sad way to be for their self maybe or behalf towards others including their own families, friends towns just other people TRAGIC heart braking stores but most did choose to how we want their live to end up who also went state child care ect.. bad child things happened to some people who CHOSE NOT TO course harm or do crime ect just decided to live their life in different ways, maybe...no ones perfect in this world! Bless NZ & ALL IS AMAZING PEOPLE ;-) Hope we all can feel the good vibes across New Zealand for All people should just life in good harmony and peace being kind to each other
spellings bit bad sorry folks opps
I use to be a politic
The country called New Zealand :) Why do certain white people of New Zealand called themselves Pakeha for? Like these 3 people, fair enough you can called yourself anything you want in life, more educational words would be white New Zealand, Non maori person, mixed maori, mixed Asian, Caucasian, European mixed, Asian, Indian, South African mixed, etc
These three clown’s must be on the take,embarrassing leftist white Māori lover’s.
Like all politicians globally, the compromised will raise their veiw,
Nz First and Winston are doing a great job. Jacinda mania really gave the extreme left a gravy train and now people are being held accountable.
Where’s this gravy train?
Dame Jacinda Ardern living rent free in your tiny mind I see 😂
Looks like nz first and act are embedded in your head
@@fumikoisadog3023 Oops sorry I offended you and your aunty by using the word accountability. Ever heard of it lol
Your right about that, thank god she has gone and left the country,I hope she took Helen bloody Clarke with her as well.
@@matgat9404 whatever cooker!
You people tend to think there are only one group of people in this country
You are talking about the part Māori people I assume.
Well you're trying very hard, aren't you?
You can cry as much as you want that people are talking about you and your opinions, but it won't stop people from looking at you and wondering "why is this person supporting changing a contract based on nothing more than one side's race? And why are they shutting them out of it while changing it?"
Would the Korean Government write to the New Zealand Government in Korean? No, they'd send an invitation in English. So why do you expect the NZ Govt to write to the Australian Govt in te reo Māori?
What was the invitation for genius??
Open da ear!!🤦🏽♀️
@@adriandocherty778 that's entirely irrelevant - you write to people in a way that they will understand. It's basic politeness.
@@TheTraveller20081 the greeting was in Maori not the whole letter. Do u think a strayan wouldn’t understand a Maori getting??🤦🏽♀️🤦🏽♀️
@@adriandocherty778 to be fair, given how woke the Albo Govt is over there, they probably wouldn't have cared and would have replied with a long 'welcome to the country from which this reply comes' in their reply. I guess the Nat minister just wanted to make a point - he writes in English.
@@TheTraveller20081 yip that’s called respect and honour!!
Te Parti Maori do have some very poignant Colonial Issues from the past.... But just need a whole different approach to the whole Treaty.... Like more "Peaceful Solutions".....
Is there a war?
It’s not in there DNA to be peaceful.
@@olliemoose2020sorry who's causing all the wars in the world at the moment its not Maori it's Europeans.
Not just the past, even in the last election the guy caught destroying their offices wasn't even charged.
Meanwhile the guy that spray painted Gerry Brownlee's office a couple years go got charged, convicted and got his sentence.
Show's there's still a two tiered system, even when some people want to ignore it
@@olliemoose2020 Violence has been in our English DNA for millennia not 'there' at all. Violence and colonisation
I couldn't possibly comment
If a race war comes and God forbid that happens, it's roots are not this coalition. Have you not yet comprehended that the majority of Nz have had enough of thier own culture being cast as illegitimate. Being described as evil and colonial regardless those labels are thrown bluntly on us just for not being maori. My observation is that Seymour for instance has pushed back against the hate and arrogance of the Maori party... out here people who have had enough of being canceled unless you agree to convert to the views of a minority and abused if you don't... well they relate. The push back is driven not by the coalition but by patience with the bully woke agenda running out. You three are drunk on the coolaide and out of touch with ordinary people... tha fact you don't see that says it all
Have you looked at what is happening in the UK and Ireland? I for one support the English and Irish standing up for their culture. Multiculturalism only works for migrants who take the time to assimilate with the people of the land. You know the saying when in Rome, or when we travel to Muslim countries observe the local customs or bear the consequences.
When you speak about cancel culture when has that ever applied to Non Maori in Aotearoa ? However, what I take offence to is "you people" daring to have an opinion on Maori culture, customs and beliefs. Let me be very clear if there was a race war here and I sincerely hope there is not. It would not be instigated by Tangata Whenua. Also, I suggest you take some time to educate yourself about Te Pati Maori when did is become racist to ascert ones right to exist and practice ones beliefs. Unless, of course you prefer to live openingly with apartheid?
@@suniap3091 Naive and out of touch. If you have no comprehension of how under assault tradition and culture of non maori is here you must live under a rock. And given the only party openly talking about direct action is the Maori party ( totally belittling the normal protocols of the parliament in the process). Your assertion any trouble must start with Maori the target is again contrary to the obvious display before us and Naive at best. You object but we the ordinary people ( and my family is Asian not English) object even more. So many I know who used to be totally accepting of Maori culture have been so dismayed they no longer want anything to do with it... a total fail for the liberal agenda. Most of us have just had enough of being lectured and I fear many no longer will even consider engaging.
@@pstrwaka7901You're generalizing when using the word "WE" I'm pakeha and I don't agree with this far right fascist Maori hating govt so I don't agree with your assumptions 😊
Maori have those rights already what they are pushing for now is the right to enshrine their worldview and values in what is no longer a maori, tribal society. Some of this is good but some conflicts with western, democratic values and beliefs. Being mutually respectful and working together rather than division is a way forward but that takes each group listening respectfully to the other. Even the Maori King spoke to this not so long ago. He spoke in a way that brings non maori to the table but what TPM and some other are doing is fueling division not unity. @suniap3091
I agree these three are a disgrace to all NZ’rs.
Maori should have their culture and nurture it for themselves .
Most cultures take care of theirs rather than expect everyone else to to adapt to theirs .
The colonisers allowed NZ to become a global partner .
Isolated cultures have aright to exist but we have to be able to function and progress in the wider world .
The Maori language is being forced on all of NZ .
The language is now mixed and sounds terrible !
You're right, we need two governments were Maori can govern themselves and take care their own. health, land and assets and language and culture. Maybe they could come up with a contract perhaps to make this happen?
Maybe a treaty?
@@Jsttredingwater86 Nah cause Maori can't pay for it
@@Jay-oh1litaxpayers pay they here because the Tiriti o Waitangi is the reason immigrants exist in NZ 😅
So true.
WE would, if you lot paid your bill for stealing land. But you went through parliament to say Maori didn't have the same rights of having stolen property returned to them. Only 2% that everyone else gets. And you want to pretend it's equal.
New Zealand First is strongly supported by Maori voters so don't reduce Maori to being people who only sympathise with Te Pati Maori.. Your left-wing buddies created the platform for all this chaotic behavior. If Labour had used their time wisely and made impactful changes to people's daily lives, especially those who live below the breadline, we'd all be less uptight now. Instead, a social experiment played out with virtue signals aplenty and over-racializing of almost everything, it was division with "kindness" and the roll back to a neutral non-racial space seems racist because of this. It's incredible how much brain damage appears to have been incurred.
,money doesnt mean productivity
Fool, it is one of the main stays of CAPITALISM.
"Three Pakeha here." What exactly does Pakeha mean? It is race-bound? Ethnicity-bound? Skin-colour dependent? Rooted in a historical link to colonist arrivals in the 1800s? Wouldn't it be more constructive, in terms of getting away from unhelpful (racist) rhetoric, to speak of Māori and non-Māori, or indigenous and non-indigenous, or tangata whenua and tangata tiriti? Pakeha keeps us in the past.
house flea,totally derogatory
I'm Maori and grew up with the word pakeha in the 1960's and 70's. Race relations back then were good. Pakeha was just a word to define white skinned New Zealanders. Other nationalities were called what they were eg Chinese, Scottish, Indian, Pom (English). Somehow it has become negative.
@@stipecurin11it doesn't mean that we don't call ourselves Maori either it's your pakeha word for us we aren't crying about it what were we supposed to call u we couldn't speak English ffs we had never seen pakeha/Europeans from the other side of world here in Polynesia/Te Moana nui a kiwa (The great sea of kiwa)
@@stipecurin11 Is that your new try to change the word when your last attempt at 'pig' got caught out when kiwi's started learning te reo?