In a lot of cases even with traffic, it's much faster to get where I need to go then to take the TTC that always has some issue and out of the way transfers. I timed it and going from Yorkdale to Liberty village took me 40 mins by car and did the same route the following day and took me and hour and 20 mins by transit. At least if I'm in a car I can listen to my music as loud as I want, can turn down my windows and just not worry about someone sitting beside me or catching covid from someone or wear a mask in my car
I remember the consultation by supposed experts saying bike lanes would only add 5 minutes, but then that turned into a half hour. The road side patios were said to only add a half hour. The lane removals for condo construction that the city allows also add 10 to 15 minutes each. The closure of king street was only to add a half hour to people's time to go through the area. Taking down a portion of the gardener on the east side was only supposed to add 15 minutes. Never mind the actual road maintenance that adds at least 15 minutes per project. Now I may only be a stupid construction worker but my math tells me to go from anywhere in the core to either side of the city, weather via the roads or gardener, dvp or 401 has an extention of time of almost 2 hours being added to the trip. Maybe we need to do some things like have cyclists pay for their own infrastructure, ttc users pay the actual cost of using the system, stop removing lanes for condos, and hire someone to actually coordinate how much construction happens in each direction of the city so there aren't kms of intersections closed at the same time on all the roads moving people in the same direction.
Great post... but wishful thinking in todays reality :) once i spent 2 hours just driving on don valley from bloor to 401.... it opened my eyes to many things in life !
Purely a curiosity (theory): What percentage of folks are not willing to ride the Go-Trains and subways due to COVID? Is this increasing the number of cars?
We left that city. Never been happier. Bike lanes being popular?? All the bikes were on the rack. Please report the news properly or at least truthfully as you see it. Thank you.
Gridlock? Here's why! 1)There is NO policing of major traffic intersections. Anarchy reigns!! (Where are Mayor Tory's special traffic agents!?) 2) The roadway restaurant seating needs to be reduced to pre-COVID norms. 3) The paid-duty police officers assigned to construction projects should ACTUALLY do their job (at 78.50/hr) and direct traffic and pedestrians instead of being on their phones in/outside patrol car or talking nonsense with construction workers. All of this is unacceptable!!
Keep all those folks in Toronto and other large cities. The problem is these voters (cities) control the politics of the nation. My wife and I are glad to live in a rural area 1.5 hours to the nearest stop light.
I'm astonished at the number given for uber cars! 75-80 thousand? Where are most of these drivers coming from? they live in Mississauga? why don't they work out there instead of coming downtown every day?
Red light Cameras & speed cameras are worsening the problem. The average speed limit in Toronto is 50 km which is 35 miles meaning one of the lowest in North America. Poor red-light infrastructure is probably one of the root causes for congestion in Toronto. There are way too many red lights & they are not synchronized impeding traffic. The government has funding to install red light cameras to generate revenue, but utterly refuses to acknowledge the poor red-light infrastructure. In the name of safety, government can do anything they would like.
This is why I hate living in city's. Noise, the people, the air , the cars etc,etc! Their is no freedom in city's just a lot of Bull Shit. Give me the country living thats the ticket , Happy & Freedom yes indeed!
i think too many mississauga bramptons markham uber car drivers rush to toronto. and what's gona help bike lanes during snowy winter .... nothing .... one car bus street car stuck everything screwed up. thanks Tory and narrow minded people
I live in brampton and it is exactly the same. The traffic has become horrific. It was not this congested before the pandemic. The (unused) bike lanes have absolutely contributed to the mess. It's like taking a 10 lb bag of potatoes and now only having a 5 lb bag to fit them all in. I also think more people are driving and less taking transit as people are now afraid they will die of covid if they take a bus.
All comes down to how car dependent the whole city is and how everything was never designed for this car dependency, when it all started back in early 1900s. Toronto neighbourhoods developed around the streetcar lines as early 1860s. This city was not built for cars; but, then suburban development started in 40s and messed up the harmony of all that by incentivising people to buy cars by building highways that cost nothing to use (back then). Of course, the core of downtown wasn't built for all those cars, so they ripped out the streetcar lines. This is of course not what the local people wanted but politics is never on the side of the populous, but the side of wealthy. One of the reasons that Toronto has a subway system was to be able to remove the ever-popular streetcars to make more space for cars. Back in 1954 the head of TTC pretty much said that subway is there to make car drivers life easier, not the transit users' life. We even see this in all the GO Transit stations that are located in middle of nowhere, which require people to drive there. One could see how the city planners in Toronto and then suburbs (York, Scarborough, ....) which are all now part of the GTA has created this monster that only allows single family homes to be built outside of the downtown core and high-rise upon high-rises overlooking them inside the core. Then gutting all the public transit on surface level to let all the cars drive to the high-rise to their job and then drive back to the single-family home outside of the core. Lets not forget the conservative government of Mike Harris, who actually went against the referendum; amalgamated Old Toronto with its suburbs to gain political power that resulted in likes of Ford becoming mayor that cancelled public transit projects and officially said it's people's fault that they die on the road as roads are only there for cars and trucks. It's also further reflected by Rob Ford's populist culture slogans like "Stop the war on cars" to gain favours to win the election. Truth is that Toronto is addicted to cars and it would only solve this issue by actually spending on public transport projects that would remove the need for a two tonne single occupant cars that roam around the city.
What about if your job requires you to carry tons of equipment that transit doesn't help with? There's a reason why people have cars usually....they have to commute and their work involves carrying things you can carry by just yourself
The construction is one reason, they could have repaired the roads during covid 247 non stop. Secondly woke male Karen bikers, and e scooters and ebikes that take up as much space as a normal motorbike and without any insurance at all. Thirdly change in hours of work. More immigration, more cars, more towers ect....
Lakeshore Toronto is the worst roads in ontario for sure. Everywhere is construction. Non stop. You have to wait 8-10 lights to get on the Gardener. How anyone working down there has to wait in traffic to get around. Crazy City.
It turns out people moved out of the city (then old Toronto) in 1950s, when they started building highways to the single-family home zoned suburbs that needed a bunch of cars to get to anywhere to do anything. The issue isn't new, it's just being revisited because pandemic slowed down the traffic and now it's back in full force.
@@ChuckADickiner of course it's going to get worse as time passes. It's the nature of the beast. Build houses in single-family zones far away from the businesses, then build highways by bulldozing over some neighborhood with certain traffic projection and wait and see how time screws it up. The solution is simply to become less car dependant than keep adding one more lane or cutting a bike lane in core of downtown. Toronto is car addicted and the solution is revamping of the public transit and getting rid of this single family zone bs.
@@ArashFallah the solution is if you work in the city you live in the city. Stop putting houses on farmland and do put houses on shitty gravel and clay "green belt" land you can't grow food on. Instead of letting politicians and their real estate friends/donors artificially create a Manhattan in Canada under the guise of climate change.
@@ChuckADickiner well politicians are who forced the amalgamation, even when the referendum was 3 to 1 against it. They did it because Toronto (the old Toronto that is) was the hub of financial services and power of Ontario and it wasn't conservative. To curb their power they added all the suburbs to old Toronto to make it a conservative body. You can see it in all the election results. And then they had to cater to the suburbs by building roads and making it car dependant, because you can't live in the suburbs without a car; let alone coming to the city for work. So they ripped off the streetcar lines, stopped transit projects, ... In reality no one can be forced to live somewhere because they work there. Specially if you plan to buy a house in core of downtown at current prices. Even if you are forced, you still need to have robust transit system that won't clug the narrow streets and it's effective while efficient.
I see no connection to the pandemic. Sounds like the same bullshit you would've dealt with before the pandemic too.
You are right on !!!!
My belief is the councilors and mayor are creating the traffic on purpose to try and force drivers onto transit.
City officials are too lazy to create anything.
You got it. WEF is a real deal
@Noartist We are seeing the totalitarianism of dull bureaucrats stumbling toward an imaginary Utopia.
In a lot of cases even with traffic, it's much faster to get where I need to go then to take the TTC that always has some issue and out of the way transfers. I timed it and going from Yorkdale to Liberty village took me 40 mins by car and did the same route the following day and took me and hour and 20 mins by transit. At least if I'm in a car I can listen to my music as loud as I want, can turn down my windows and just not worry about someone sitting beside me or catching covid from someone or wear a mask in my car
Yep, I just stop going to Toronto and spending my money there, no worries
My personal favorite is the lane of flowers next to Union
I remember the consultation by supposed experts saying bike lanes would only add 5 minutes, but then that turned into a half hour.
The road side patios were said to only add a half hour.
The lane removals for condo construction that the city allows also add 10 to 15 minutes each.
The closure of king street was only to add a half hour to people's time to go through the area.
Taking down a portion of the gardener on the east side was only supposed to add 15 minutes.
Never mind the actual road maintenance that adds at least 15 minutes per project.
Now I may only be a stupid construction worker but my math tells me to go from anywhere in the core to either side of the city, weather via the roads or gardener, dvp or 401 has an extention of time of almost 2 hours being added to the trip.
Maybe we need to do some things like have cyclists pay for their own infrastructure, ttc users pay the actual cost of using the system, stop removing lanes for condos, and hire someone to actually coordinate how much construction happens in each direction of the city so there aren't kms of intersections closed at the same time on all the roads moving people in the same direction.
Great post... but wishful thinking in todays reality :) once i spent 2 hours just driving on don valley from bloor to 401.... it opened my eyes to many things in life !
Purely a curiosity (theory): What percentage of folks are not willing to ride the Go-Trains and subways due to COVID? Is this increasing the number of cars?
I think the bigger problem is everyone who moved out of the city during lockdown is now commuting into the city instead.
Soon as you get out of downtown chaos you have to get thru the 401. It's bad!
JUST SAY THANKYOU TO TRUDEAU
Remove the damn bike lanes and it will flow yet again.
Thank you liberal bolshevik politicians.
We left that city. Never been happier.
Bike lanes being popular?? All the bikes were on the rack. Please report the news properly or at least truthfully as you see it. Thank you.
To many bike lanes have screwed all the traffic up!
Gridlock? Here's why! 1)There is NO policing of major traffic intersections. Anarchy reigns!! (Where are Mayor Tory's special traffic agents!?) 2) The roadway restaurant seating needs to be reduced to pre-COVID norms. 3) The paid-duty police officers assigned to construction projects should ACTUALLY do their job (at 78.50/hr) and direct traffic and pedestrians instead of being on their phones in/outside patrol car or talking nonsense with construction workers. All of this is unacceptable!!
Thank you John Tory, at least the 1% of the population that rides bikes can still get around
So many have forgotten
I would say so many dont know what they are doing .
Keep all those folks in Toronto and other large cities. The problem is these voters (cities) control the politics of the nation. My wife and I are glad to live in a rural area 1.5 hours to the nearest stop light.
Those leftwing carbon tax fans in the city don’t even car pool.
And bet your bottom dollar this is where anyone sneaking in from Roxham Road is being put.
I would never live in Toronto I hate that down
justice for voting liberal
I'm astonished at the number given for uber cars! 75-80 thousand? Where are most of these drivers coming from? they live in Mississauga? why don't they work out there instead of coming downtown every day?
You see the lefty liberals think they aren’t paying carbon tax if they take an Uber.
Sitting in a traffic jam burning away your very expensive gasoline.
Many are looking elsewhere to live where it is much less hectic and cheaper.
Just having a problems selling the homes though. lol gee, the good old days are over.
Bike lanes are a false fix
It’s almost like Canada’s population has doubled in the last two years
Red light Cameras & speed cameras are worsening the problem. The average speed limit in Toronto is 50 km which is 35 miles meaning one of the lowest in North America. Poor red-light infrastructure is probably one of the root causes for congestion in Toronto. There are way too many red lights & they are not synchronized impeding traffic. The government has funding to install red light cameras to generate revenue, but utterly refuses to acknowledge the poor red-light infrastructure. In the name of safety, government can do anything they would like.
I bet your city is run by the lefties. Most are.
Tory money hungry Man 311 Doing Nothing
This is why I hate living in city's.
Noise, the people, the air , the cars etc,etc!
Their is no freedom in city's just a lot of Bull Shit.
Give me the country living thats the ticket ,
Happy & Freedom yes indeed!
Agreed
*cities
i think too many mississauga bramptons markham uber car drivers rush to toronto. and what's gona help bike lanes during snowy winter .... nothing .... one car bus street car stuck everything screwed up. thanks Tory and narrow minded people
Where do you get a license
To drive as you please,
To be dangerous, and
Not read or speak English.
I drive for a living.
It's abysmal.
I live in brampton and it is exactly the same. The traffic has become horrific. It was not this congested before the pandemic. The (unused) bike lanes have absolutely contributed to the mess. It's like taking a 10 lb bag of potatoes and now only having a 5 lb bag to fit them all in.
I also think more people are driving and less taking transit as people are now afraid they will die of covid if they take a bus.
Masse invitation ..
I am so glad I do not drive a car. I am even more glad that I no longer live in the city of Toronto.
Geez I thought everyone from TO moved to Belleville.
All comes down to how car dependent the whole city is and how everything was never designed for this car dependency, when it all started back in early 1900s. Toronto neighbourhoods developed around the streetcar lines as early 1860s.
This city was not built for cars; but, then suburban development started in 40s and messed up the harmony of all that by incentivising people to buy cars by building highways that cost nothing to use (back then). Of course, the core of downtown wasn't built for all those cars, so they ripped out the streetcar lines. This is of course not what the local people wanted but politics is never on the side of the populous, but the side of wealthy.
One of the reasons that Toronto has a subway system was to be able to remove the ever-popular streetcars to make more space for cars. Back in 1954 the head of TTC pretty much said that subway is there to make car drivers life easier, not the transit users' life. We even see this in all the GO Transit stations that are located in middle of nowhere, which require people to drive there.
One could see how the city planners in Toronto and then suburbs (York, Scarborough, ....) which are all now part of the GTA has created this monster that only allows single family homes to be built outside of the downtown core and high-rise upon high-rises overlooking them inside the core. Then gutting all the public transit on surface level to let all the cars drive to the high-rise to their job and then drive back to the single-family home outside of the core.
Lets not forget the conservative government of Mike Harris, who actually went against the referendum; amalgamated Old Toronto with its suburbs to gain political power that resulted in likes of Ford becoming mayor that cancelled public transit projects and officially said it's people's fault that they die on the road as roads are only there for cars and trucks.
It's also further reflected by Rob Ford's populist culture slogans like "Stop the war on cars" to gain favours to win the election.
Truth is that Toronto is addicted to cars and it would only solve this issue by actually spending on public transport projects that would remove the need for a two tonne single occupant cars that roam around the city.
Hate to break it to you, but those who live in the GTA are already crazy.
This is all part of the plan. Eat the road with bycycle and many more unnecessary street cars
Small subways
People to scared to take transit, plus alot of people relocated outside gta and now driving into city.
Toronto Traffic bad? Nah! Y’all never been in a traffic jam in Manila. 😂
its better to take train going downtown
And give away your cars?
What about if your job requires you to carry tons of equipment that transit doesn't help with? There's a reason why people have cars usually....they have to commute and their work involves carrying things you can carry by just yourself
*can't carry
@@victoria3241 even new highway would not help toronto. they need to remove some of the cars single drivers expand alternatives better solutions.
The construction is one reason, they could have repaired the roads during covid 247 non stop.
Secondly woke male Karen bikers, and e scooters and ebikes that take up as much space as a normal motorbike and without any insurance at all.
Thirdly change in hours of work.
More immigration, more cars, more towers ect....
Lol looks good on ya for all your liberal support.
Lakeshore Toronto is the worst roads in ontario for sure. Everywhere is construction. Non stop. You have to wait 8-10 lights to get on the Gardener. How anyone working down there has to wait in traffic to get around. Crazy City.
I think the biggest problem is everyone who moved out of the city during lockdown is now commuting into the city instead.
It turns out people moved out of the city (then old Toronto) in 1950s, when they started building highways to the single-family home zoned suburbs that needed a bunch of cars to get to anywhere to do anything. The issue isn't new, it's just being revisited because pandemic slowed down the traffic and now it's back in full force.
@@ArashFallah I had to drive the highways before, during and after the rona. It's way worse now than before.
@@ChuckADickiner of course it's going to get worse as time passes. It's the nature of the beast.
Build houses in single-family zones far away from the businesses, then build highways by bulldozing over some neighborhood with certain traffic projection and wait and see how time screws it up.
The solution is simply to become less car dependant than keep adding one more lane or cutting a bike lane in core of downtown.
Toronto is car addicted and the solution is revamping of the public transit and getting rid of this single family zone bs.
@@ArashFallah the solution is if you work in the city you live in the city. Stop putting houses on farmland and do put houses on shitty gravel and clay "green belt" land you can't grow food on. Instead of letting politicians and their real estate friends/donors artificially create a Manhattan in Canada under the guise of climate change.
@@ChuckADickiner well politicians are who forced the amalgamation, even when the referendum was 3 to 1 against it. They did it because Toronto (the old Toronto that is) was the hub of financial services and power of Ontario and it wasn't conservative.
To curb their power they added all the suburbs to old Toronto to make it a conservative body. You can see it in all the election results. And then they had to cater to the suburbs by building roads and making it car dependant, because you can't live in the suburbs without a car; let alone coming to the city for work.
So they ripped off the streetcar lines, stopped transit projects, ...
In reality no one can be forced to live somewhere because they work there. Specially if you plan to buy a house in core of downtown at current prices. Even if you are forced, you still need to have robust transit system that won't clug the narrow streets and it's effective while efficient.