Cancelled - Disney World's Never Built Hotels

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  • Опубліковано 15 чер 2023
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    Walt Disney World in Orlando, Florida has over 25 hotel resorts on property. Many of which stand as some of the greatest themed, hotel architecture in the world. But throughout the resorts 50 year long history, there have been a few notable hotels that never got the chance to see the light of day. Today, I want to shine some light on those propeties from the original Asian, Venetian and Persian resorts, to the lesser known stories behind Disney's Mediterranean, Venezia and Hollywood Hotels. All of which, were ultimatly Cancelled.
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  • @BrightSunFilms
    @BrightSunFilms  10 місяців тому +133

    An anonymous viewer sent in a really interesting site plan for the eventually constructed, Boardwalk Hotel. Though, in this 1993 master plan, a curious dotted line depicts an intended monorail beam. It's something i've never seen before, and I posted it over on Twitter. Give me a follow while you're there to get updates on stuff like this! twitter.com/BrightSunFilms/status/1671234101217488896?s=20

    • @jakezoet-jd1wk
      @jakezoet-jd1wk 10 місяців тому

      Huh, that’s interesting. Perhaps the monorail was likely going to go through the hotel or have a hotel station built there for a potential new line

    • @lemonrealsqueeze6826
      @lemonrealsqueeze6826 10 місяців тому

      @@jakezoet-jd1wk probably was a monorail connected a station not inside the resort but behind that connected Disney Springs at the time and Yaht Club to Epcot.

    • @bethamy1324
      @bethamy1324 7 місяців тому

      P

    • @emilypeduto981
      @emilypeduto981 7 місяців тому

      when i was a transportation cast member the story i was told was that plans were once made to extend the monorail system to hollywood studios, but it would have run straight through the swan and dolphin, which would have violated their lease for the land on which they sat. the swan and dolphin would have allowed it, but only if they got their own station, which inflated the cost of the project past the point of viability and the whole line was scrapped. but i can't guarantee that narrative came from anyone with authoritative information.

    • @EEvtg
      @EEvtg 7 місяців тому +1

      @@emilypeduto981 I feel like that's based around the story that those black squares on the building were meant as Monorail pass-thrus, which isn't true. Regardless, it would've been cool to see the Monorail extended to more places. It was suppose to go to what is now Disney Springs too.

  • @tayzonday
    @tayzonday 11 місяців тому +1113

    I hope to get to a point where I can throw out entire hotels like those socks I never liked 😂

    • @spiderfox1988
      @spiderfox1988 11 місяців тому +41

      Holy shit its really you!! I'm sure you get there one day man!

    • @thesaexplorer
      @thesaexplorer 11 місяців тому +26

      Tay Zonday ladies and gentlemen!

    • @meanderinoranges
      @meanderinoranges 11 місяців тому +21

      Wow, we've been touched by an angel!

    • @LilyFrogPonds
      @LilyFrogPonds 11 місяців тому +21

      He came back for us. The chocolate rain man.

    • @candidapm2474
      @candidapm2474 11 місяців тому +14

      Socks stained with chocolate rain

  • @MNGirl11119
    @MNGirl11119 11 місяців тому +528

    I’m glad you pointed out the horrible trend of Disney’s hotel “updates” removing theming.

    • @billredding2000
      @billredding2000 11 місяців тому +31

      ...because Going Woke is way more important, so they can't have any distractions from pushing THAT agenda.
      -- BR

    • @user-hu7yv8gn6n
      @user-hu7yv8gn6n 11 місяців тому +23

      The Disney Dream is as dead as the American Dream

    • @bigbabado8296
      @bigbabado8296 10 місяців тому +8

      ​@@billredding2000You'd think they'd use theming to push the "woke" agenda, but I guess I'd be wrong 🤷

    • @billredding2000
      @billredding2000 10 місяців тому +1

      @@bigbabado8296 ...maybe you're not wrong, maybe it's in the works right now!
      -- BR

    • @jspihlman
      @jspihlman 10 місяців тому +22

      Yeah everything just seems to be becoming more lackluster in nature... boring solid colors, no patterns, no theming. It's just like how boring new fast food restaurants look. And they are trying to do the IP themed rooms, but they just look too kitschy and forced for my taste. Whereas the hotels had their own unique theming and touchings before.

  • @hopescope
    @hopescope 10 місяців тому +219

    That white Mediterranean resort was STUNNING and so ahead of it’s time! I’m so sad it doesn’t exist

    • @makaliabartodej2728
      @makaliabartodej2728 9 місяців тому +2

      so cool to see you here, hope! 🤩

    • @carminecdinoproductions
      @carminecdinoproductions 2 місяці тому +1

      I want a Disney Mediterranean Resort hotel for the Walt Disney World Resort! I might want it to exist!

  • @MasterOfNinjas16
    @MasterOfNinjas16 10 місяців тому +136

    This may be an unpopular opinion, but the few places on Disney property that DON'T have IPs awkwardly shoved in, are the most magical. Iger NEEDS to go and they need someone in place who understands and respects the company history, legacy, and philosophies Walt and Roy had.

    • @motherurck7542
      @motherurck7542 10 місяців тому +17

      They also need someone who doesn't get the company involved in politics, cause it keeps on biting them in the ass.

    • @Mattimaginex1
      @Mattimaginex1 9 місяців тому +3

      Walt Disney was racist so i don’t think he should do that

    • @motherurck7542
      @motherurck7542 9 місяців тому

      @Mattimaginex1 He really wasn't. He was anti union and the commies attacked him for it and made up stories.

    • @ttintagel
      @ttintagel 9 місяців тому +10

      Yes, when fans say they want more theming, they generally don't mean, "Slap a sticker of a popular movie on it." They mean the kind of design and level of detail that makes you believe you've left the everyday world behind and have been transported to some other place and/or time.

    • @ttintagel
      @ttintagel 9 місяців тому +4

      @@motherurck7542 It was getting OUT of politics that got them in trouble with the fascists.

  • @JKSSubstandard
    @JKSSubstandard 11 місяців тому +111

    I actually work for the architecture firm that designed the Dolphin hotel. Its weird seeing how many other architects designs were left by the wayside while Michale Graves got his over the finish line.

    • @electricar9
      @electricar9 10 місяців тому +1

      Which architecture firm do you work at?

    • @rebeccageiger9110
      @rebeccageiger9110 Місяць тому

      Yea no offense to you or your employer but the others are way cooler. I never thought the dolphin looked interesting at all.

  • @chetb_4560
    @chetb_4560 11 місяців тому +325

    Very interesting to see how many of the cancelled concepts such as the Mediterranean, Venice one, and Asian resort in comparison to today's more modern and bland hotels had a holistic theme to the whole building, and not just a regular design with some disney characters placed around as the theme. As said in the video, it just goes to show how before the 90's Disney had the architecture and experience in mind instead of Disney+ and other commercial expansions

    • @ElijahRock92
      @ElijahRock92 11 місяців тому +15

      I hate to be "that guy," but I think modern social media outrage has caused major companies to play it safe. You can't make major news and be the hot topic on podcasts with a bland hotel, whereas an Asian, Persian, of Venician might cause a vocal minority to go full send on social media. Don't forget, any land development will stir the environmental hornets nest.
      The only way Disney will take a risk like that again is if 1) the property division is split off from other parts of the company, and 2) a hostile takeover occurs putting the aforementioned division in the hands of risk-taking leaders. With how south things have been going at Disney, only time will tell.

    • @Craxin01
      @Craxin01 11 місяців тому +23

      @@ElijahRock92 It's less social media and more capitalism. Putting massive amounts of money into a project without guaranteed income is a losing strategy. Playing it safe might be boring, but it's profitable.

    • @ElijahRock92
      @ElijahRock92 11 місяців тому +5

      @@Craxin01 Ehhhh... if you think it's "capitalism", I'm just gonna leave you to your own devices. ✌🏾

    • @danieladams4289
      @danieladams4289 11 місяців тому

      P

    • @pcbassoon3892
      @pcbassoon3892 11 місяців тому +5

      ​@@Craxin01 You think you could build an "Arabian Nights: Person themed" hotel without people losing their minds on social media?

  • @REXXltm14
    @REXXltm14 11 місяців тому +128

    I think the star wars hotel is a great example of giving the fans something they want, then pricing them out of it. I loved the concept and wanted to go, but when i started planning a disney trip i found it was way too expensive. if you want to cater to a niche fan group you have to make it so they can participate, pricing it at the same level as the top tier resorts makes no sense, and people will just choose to go there instead

    • @vtmkb
      @vtmkb 11 місяців тому +10

      Honestly it wasn’t a Star Wars hotel. I think they failed in their marketing…I went and it was a immersive 2 day event. You could not just come and go like a normal hotel. There is a themed shuttle that took you to the park at a certain time. If you have the means to book before it’s gone I highly suggest you do. It was amazing. It’s far far more than just a themed hotel.

    • @DavidLLambertmobile
      @DavidLLambertmobile 11 місяців тому +9

      Im 💯 sure Star Wars Galaxy Edge hotel, concept will be studied in US business schools, hotel hospitality 🏨 courses. What NOT to do!

    • @louiearmstrong
      @louiearmstrong 10 місяців тому +18

      $1200 PER NIGHT PER GUEST FOR TWO NIGHTS. Damn that is expensive! Disney and elite ski resorts cater to a few billionaires, and suddenly start thinking $1000+ daily experiences are a solid business plan

    • @ttintagel
      @ttintagel 9 місяців тому +6

      @@vtmkb EXACTLY. Disney's failure was a failure to adequately publicize and market it for what it was. The fact that people are still out here calling it a "Star Wars hotel" proves that. Yes, the price was ridiculous if all you got was a hotel room - but that wasn't what it was. They should have been promoting the hell out of it.

    • @DavidLLambertmobile
      @DavidLLambertmobile 8 місяців тому +1

      @louiearmstrong correct. 💯 Jackson Hole Wy is a good example. They were a RV, camper 🏕 tourist spot for decades, then in the 1980s 1990s more rich year round 🏘 residents shifted in. Now 2023, it's 🍌. Prices are sky high. Hourly employees are "poor" but earn $20-35/hour. I worked at GTLC 🏞 security in 2020.

  • @pcruzinn
    @pcruzinn 11 місяців тому +183

    Disney has slowly lost its immense integration of theming over the years in various projects and it's really sad. I get it's a money problem, but just not as much magic going into projects as they used to.

    • @morganrussman
      @morganrussman 11 місяців тому +3

      While it is mainly because I went down with family, I've only really been down twice (well, down to Florida 3 times, the first being when I was a baby when some family events down in Florida happened, but, twice if you consider above 10 years old).

    • @AviationDirection
      @AviationDirection 11 місяців тому

      Go woke, go broke! Too bad!

    • @presmasterflash7555
      @presmasterflash7555 11 місяців тому +10

      Makes you wonder how much of the political climate over the years played a role in this.

    • @danielknepper6884
      @danielknepper6884 8 місяців тому

      Nobody likes their woke crap

  • @FyreNano
    @FyreNano 11 місяців тому +21

    It's refreshing to hear "the oil crisis of the 70s caused issues" instead of the running theme of this channel "the crash of 2008"😂😂

  • @ChrisB2007
    @ChrisB2007 10 місяців тому +78

    Say what you want about Eisner but there’s no denying that some of the best and most iconic resorts on WDW property were built because of him.

    • @EEvtg
      @EEvtg 7 місяців тому +5

      Some of the best rides and parks too...

    • @AtrocityEquine01
      @AtrocityEquine01 5 місяців тому +3

      If only a certain channel would learn this instead of acting like he was killing Disney, especially compared to Iger...

    • @Anppan
      @Anppan 5 місяців тому +3

      ​@@AtrocityEquine01 You mean Defunctland? If so, I'd say it's less like acting he was killing Disney and more showing the bad financial decisions he made. But I have to agree the Eisner slander can only be funny for a number of times before it starts getting old

  • @brigittem2821
    @brigittem2821 11 місяців тому +42

    The Mediterranean Hotel was a beautiful design that would have given a lovely and eye catching scenery for Disney World.

  • @foabmoab
    @foabmoab 11 місяців тому +68

    With regards to Galactic Starcruiser, I'm amazed they haven't just designed and built a general hotel just with a Star Wars theme that wasn't ridiculously expensive. It doesn't have to have the big production value, but they could essentially blended the Venetian idea into a hotel styled after Naboo for example.

    • @gokaury
      @gokaury 11 місяців тому +6

      It's been rumored that Disney is just going to tear it down. Disney isn't what it once was, ideological differences aside.

    • @louiearmstrong
      @louiearmstrong 10 місяців тому +7

      You could have made a $300 Embassy Suites Tatooine with their omelet breakfast and couch beds, and you would be sold out every night forever. Disney wanted 5 digit used car prices for the Star Wars hotel experience.

    • @ttintagel
      @ttintagel 9 місяців тому +1

      I really don't think that would work in a regular hotel setting where people are constantly coming and going. The amount of the outside world that comes into a hotel would be breaking the illusion left, right, and center.

    • @foabmoab
      @foabmoab 9 місяців тому +1

      @@ttintagel Perhaps, but even in Galactic Starcruiser you have people in regular non-SW style clothes and Mickey Mouse hats and such during the events :)

    • @ttintagel
      @ttintagel 9 місяців тому

      @@foabmoab I don't think having guests in 21st-century clothing on the Starcruiser can compare to what it would be like at a hotel.

  • @Ultimaton100
    @Ultimaton100 11 місяців тому +23

    Fun Fact: Cast members who operate the transport boats on Seven Seas Lagoon and Bay Lake to this day refer to the edge of shoreline where the Venetian and Mediterranean resorts would have sat as “Venetian Pointe” for navigation purposes.

  • @FelixHawthorne
    @FelixHawthorne 11 місяців тому +265

    As a Defunctland regular, it's weird to see Michael Eisner in the beginning and not immediately go "what shit did he do this time"

    • @JoaoPessoa86
      @JoaoPessoa86 10 місяців тому +14

      the recuring villain, it all goes back to Eisner there

    • @sominboy2757
      @sominboy2757 8 місяців тому +3

      EIIIIIIIISSSSSSSSNNNNNNNNEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • @EEvtg
      @EEvtg 7 місяців тому +1

      Defunctland's just biased and only focuses on the negative.

  • @chris.honeycutt
    @chris.honeycutt 11 місяців тому +46

    The recent regimes are making Michael Eisner look like Steve Jobs. He should receive much more credit than he does for reinvigorating the company, both in the animation studio and in the resort hotels. The current regime could learn a lot from him.

    • @insertnamehere5809
      @insertnamehere5809 7 місяців тому +1

      Time has been kind to Michael Eisner, at least he was the head of Disney when it went through its comeback in the 90's

    • @tanman99
      @tanman99 7 місяців тому +1

      It depends on which Eisner we’re talking about. Frank Wells Eisner or post Frank Wells. One saved Disney and largely made it what it is today. The other one almost destroyed it.

    • @EEvtg
      @EEvtg 7 місяців тому +5

      @@tanman99 Not really, that's an overstatement. Yes, things were simpler in the first half of his tenure (and before Euro Disney), but despite some missteps, Eisner was still pumping out amazing projects post-Wells, such as DAK, ToT, Indy Adventure, the Cruise Line, Hercules, Mulan, Tarzan etc. The company was financially doing great when he left...In his last year, 2005, Disney saw all-time record profits. They were also holding the best anniversary celebration they've ever done. If you understand the interpersonal drama with Roy E, then you understand that if he were still around, he would have booted Bob Iger out a long time ago.
      ...I'd take the second half of the Eisner era over what we have now ANYDAY. Yea he destroyed Journey into Imagination and Horizons, but he brought us Alien Encounter and Timekeeper.
      Nice pfp btw😉

    • @tanman99
      @tanman99 7 місяців тому +2

      @@EEvtg excellent points. Yes it was an oversimplification. And yes Eisner still had great projects even after Wells died and even later in his tenure like the ones you listed. But for every AK there was a DCA that suffered for a long time due to budget cuts, for every ToT there is a camp Minnie Mickey or beastly kingdom that suffered or never came to pass. For every Lilo and Stitch there were countless direct to video sequels that nobody asked for and only served as a cash grab and diluted the Disney brand.
      But you’re right. Whatever we thought was bad at the end of Eisner’s tenure is nothing compared to what Disney fans have had to endure the last few years. Especially for theme park fans.
      I mean come on. Just today they loudly announced the “return” of park hopping, something they arbitrarily took away and now are touting as a “benefit” while quietly increasing AP prices up to 10%?! Anyone remember when Iger admitted the parks were too expensive? Anyone..?

  • @samspencer1906
    @samspencer1906 11 місяців тому +103

    I NEVER get bored of these amazing productions. We even have viewing parties here in the UK. Top notch content. Keep it up mate!

  • @IanNubbit
    @IanNubbit 11 місяців тому +75

    Disney and his parks is the perfect example of one man having a vision that would have never stopped growing, but after he was no longer present, progress slowed heavily

  • @bobp5356
    @bobp5356 11 місяців тому +44

    Michael Eisner is regularly dogged, but he saved Disney and gave it it’s greatest architecture. Michael Graves, Robert Stern, Gwathmey Siegel, and others worked there. Their buildings are classics. That new Venetian DVC hotel is a dog. The new crowd needs to step up its game. Anyway, great video.

    • @gokaury
      @gokaury 11 місяців тому +4

      That's because he had Frank Wells to temper him. Once Frank passed, Eisner was never the same.

    • @bobp5356
      @bobp5356 11 місяців тому +4

      Good point.

    • @TheStreetFoolosopherMr187
      @TheStreetFoolosopherMr187 10 місяців тому +4

      Frank Wells was the genius too bad he never gotten to be CEO

    • @Clay3613
      @Clay3613 3 місяці тому

      @@TheStreetFoolosopherMr187 Nah, stop revisionism.

  • @phillipcosentino37
    @phillipcosentino37 11 місяців тому +38

    I still remember the original video of the abandoned hotels! Used to listen multiple times at my old job. Jake, the amount of times I bring up these hotels, people look at me like I have a second head, they're shocked and it's thanks to you I get to experience those reactions, keep it up mate!

    • @BrightSunFilms
      @BrightSunFilms  11 місяців тому +11

      That’s so cool to hear! I hope I’ve done the topic justice the second time around!

    • @phillipcosentino37
      @phillipcosentino37 11 місяців тому +3

      @@BrightSunFilms You sure have mate! Now I have more details to tell people now!!

  • @SovietDictator
    @SovietDictator 10 місяців тому +50

    Modern Disney usually makes the mistake of thinking you should be there for their characters. Walt understood that you are the character. I hope they get better at channeling Walt in their future projects. The Star Wars one seems to have the earmarks of something they thought might do this but didn't do it effectively or at a price people could afford. Walt managed it by buil;ding a frontier town and a castle instead of making you stay in a windowless oddity.
    When I was a kid you got Swiss theming on the skyway entrance and a mountain with a brief glimpse of a yeti. That's because it was built to let you become part of it. Then you'd saunter over to Big Thunder where there weren't characters, there was you, a train, and a strange mining operation.
    Characters are fine, and I met a bunch of them, especially by the carousel. I pulled the sword from the stone and now decades later I still remember it. If not for pictures my parents took, I would not remember which characters I met but I did have a magical day because even then, I knew I experienced things, not just saw them. If riding a submarine isn't fun unless you see Nemo or Ariel, you're not taking advantage of the submarine itself.

  • @HarrietsChariot
    @HarrietsChariot 11 місяців тому +15

    A coworker of mine did some landscape architecture work for for a firm contracted by DDC in the 90s and I found some of the drawings on a company server. As an LA myself, I love looking at the hand rendering style which was predominate at the time for master planning. It's also fascinating to see the items that were planned but weren't included in the built resorts, like a monorail at Boardwalk.

    • @BrightSunFilms
      @BrightSunFilms  11 місяців тому +4

      That’s super interesting! Shoot me an email if you’re down to discuss further. Contact@brightsunfilms.ca

  • @ClixWizard
    @ClixWizard 11 місяців тому +59

    I'm glad that you weren't afraid to call out the uninspiring design of Riviera. During my last visit to WDW I decided to check out their newest "premiere resort". I was less than impressed. It's so unfortunate to see what could have been, but at least the classic resorts that were made have such unique identities.

    • @jwaire
      @jwaire 10 місяців тому +2

      @@AdamEfimoff It looks like a boutique European hotel, which I'm guessing they were going for. I don't understand the hate for it either. It's just not Wilderness Lodge or Grand Floridian.

  • @igotthatgoinforme9182
    @igotthatgoinforme9182 11 місяців тому +38

    I think most of these were amazing designs but the problem Disney has in the last 20 years is affordability. That is the reason the star wars hotel failed it cost too much to stay there. I think the last thing they need is another 650+ a night hotel. The crowds haven't stopped coming to the park but I think they looked at the financials and with the increased travel costs people can't spend 15k on a disney week. But for 200 a night with a kitchen they can stay off property and get transportation to the park everyday for much less.

    • @michaeltaylor1603
      @michaeltaylor1603 11 місяців тому +11

      Yep! Who WANT'S a "payment plan" to travel. We already have mortgage, car note, insurance to worry about.

    • @alice45-fgd-456drt
      @alice45-fgd-456drt 11 місяців тому +9

      This is very true, the pricing around Disney is already downright awful even if you're just going to the park, buying some stuff and eating. Adding in wildly expensive hotels isn't doable for a lot of people. It's such a shame about the Star Wars one too, I would've loved to go but dang I've got bills to pay.

    • @wheelsee
      @wheelsee 11 місяців тому +1

      That's why I take Jake's reviews with a grain of salt...he's a young single UA-cam with no kids.

    • @trustytrest
      @trustytrest 9 місяців тому +2

      @@wheelsee He can still be objective about what the experience was like. Just don't count on him to have the same financial situation. Same for any reviewer really.

    • @ttintagel
      @ttintagel 9 місяців тому

      "That is the reason the star wars hotel failed it cost too much to stay there." The reason the cost was so high is that it WASN'T a hotel. You weren't paying just to stay there. The fact that there are still people out here laboring under this misconception proves that the failure was a failure to adequately publicize what exactly they were selling.

  • @citizenyard
    @citizenyard 10 місяців тому +9

    The idea of the Reflections resort is such a disaster. Not only was it a failure but had it been built you could argue it would have been even more so with how it would wreck the ambiance of Fort Wilderness, which is consistently sold out. Why don't they just expand the fort? Its in high demand, could use some extra sites or amenities, is cheaper to build considering its embrace of the outdoors AND would allow them to up prices for sites since they're taking on new features. It's a no brainer in my mind.

  • @BacchaeOphanim
    @BacchaeOphanim 11 місяців тому +12

    That Riviera hotel sure doesn't look that distinct from a slightly more fancy interstate-side Hilton hotel.

  • @jakezoet-jd1wk
    @jakezoet-jd1wk 11 місяців тому +148

    Wow, this is new
    Haven’t seen a new Cancelled episode in a long time, especially one including Disney
    Great job Jake, another awesome and successful video just like always.
    Also, it is quite a shame these hotels were never built, it would be pretty cool to see what they looked like if they were, especially considering the designs of these buildings and rooms

    • @BrightSunFilms
      @BrightSunFilms  11 місяців тому +20

      Thank you so much!

    • @RLucas3000
      @RLucas3000 11 місяців тому +7

      @@BrightSunFilms. That Asian, Arabian, and Venetian motels would have all been amazing, and all destroyed by I’ll luck of an oil crisis and an Iranian coup. Didn’t Universal finally build the ‘Venetian’ (Portofino)?

    • @JollyGreenGiant94
      @JollyGreenGiant94 11 місяців тому +5

      @@RLucas3000 I'd say Disney/OLC did when they built Hotel Miracosta and the Mediterranean Harbor at DisneySea

  • @jennalg99
    @jennalg99 10 місяців тому +11

    So what I've gathered from this video is that there is space for another monorail resort that Disney is just not taking advantage of??? Thats CRAZY!

  • @dyj321
    @dyj321 10 місяців тому +7

    Recently stayed at Pop. We visited the Riviera since it was on the skyliner, can't describe how disappointed I was in it. It was underwhelming. Pop on the other hand I found to be pretty fun, plus the food was surprisingly great!

  • @Wnick1996
    @Wnick1996 11 місяців тому +19

    My favorite of these canceled hotels has the be The Asian Resort just for the aesthetics alone. Really would have been one of Disney's best looking ones in my opinion

    • @BrightSunFilms
      @BrightSunFilms  11 місяців тому +4

      Agreed!

    • @danielhopeuk
      @danielhopeuk 11 місяців тому +2

      I agree! And seeing how beautiful the Asian inspired hotel is at Phantasialand, I’m very surprised they haven’t taken inspiration from it, & how well it’s received

  • @CCrab_
    @CCrab_ 11 місяців тому +7

    I can definitely see how the grand venetian hotel's cancellation probably greenlit Universal's Portofino Bay, though that hotel was a much smaller version of what the Venetian was supposed to be.

  • @HunterKutz
    @HunterKutz 11 місяців тому +5

    Can we talk about how Bay Lake tower completely throws off the symmetry of The Contemporary Resort!

  • @jedibilly
    @jedibilly 11 місяців тому +11

    I would've love to see the Asian resort come to fruition! And it still blows my mind that such a potential Epcot pavillion like Thailand hasn't even come to mind! Imagine the possibilities! 🤦🏻‍♂️

  • @Keither754
    @Keither754 11 місяців тому +11

    21:17 in my humble opinion, Port Orleans French Quarter is the BEST Disney World resort hotel…by far. 🎭

  • @bradkoerner1
    @bradkoerner1 10 місяців тому +9

    Wow! Incredibly well-researched video! I've followed Disney's architectural projects since the 80's and you have a ton of documents here I've never seen before. Good work! Thanks!

  • @bjvincent8786
    @bjvincent8786 11 місяців тому +8

    @15:14 The cancelled Disney's Grande Venezia Resort, reminds of the now Tokyo DisneySea Hotel MiraCosta. It is a pity that something like that was not built in Walt Disney World.

  • @azblueauthor8081
    @azblueauthor8081 11 місяців тому +12

    I know that it's not exactly in your usual genre, but I would love for you to do a similar video to this one focusing on the hotels that did get built, talking about their architects and history in the same way you cover the cancelled projects.

  • @jovishark
    @jovishark 11 місяців тому +9

    thank you for calling to attention how cool and unique those hotel designs were. i feel like out of disneys failed ventures, the biggest projects that are the coolest are the ones that never get made. all of those talented designers stick their neck out and work for so long on things that only exist as drawings and models and ideas. thanks for putting names on those pictures.

  • @tylerkochman1007
    @tylerkochman1007 11 місяців тому +13

    I’m someone who knew about a good few of these projects. But even then, I’m amazed at how many there were I DIDN’T know. You always do a phenomenal job at providing a deep dive on subjects

  • @speedingatheist
    @speedingatheist 11 місяців тому +11

    Heck, Disney spent billions for Star Wars and burned it to the ground with horrible sequels.

  • @Motorsportqueen
    @Motorsportqueen 11 місяців тому +6

    Jake you are so informative about the history of the projects that never were. Great work

  • @spiderfox1988
    @spiderfox1988 11 місяців тому +16

    Hell yeah you know it's gonna be a good day when bright sun films drops a new video, thanks for all your hard work on this superb content

  • @Vanessa_c97
    @Vanessa_c97 11 місяців тому +8

    Thank you for this video @BrightSunFilms 😊 I have been diving into Disney history recently, especially cancelled/abandoned projects. Further down the rabbit hole I go!

  • @m00ndog3
    @m00ndog3 11 місяців тому +20

    I have a degree in architecture and have practiced and studied it for years and I will say, it’s important to remember that trendiness in architecture is a bad thing in that it fades quickly, goes drastically in the opposite direction causing costly remodels due to its often blind eye towards actual function and experientially has a short lived wow factor for just being different. Many of these proposed hotels were trendy in their time or relied on a deep knowledge of history behind actual geographical areas they are inspired from to allow a guest to be immersed enough in to hold their attention. Disney’s experiential design is a fictional ‘place-making’ that is pulled directly from a story. All theses hotels looked great in their sculptural forms as a model, but how deep and how much of an adventure into a STORY, that is not a history lesson or reproduction or just a short lived wow factor, would they have been. I will say Peter Dominick’s works are MASTERFUL, his lobbies are dramatically deep in story and scale and all just beautifully pull you in to the story the resort. It’s too bad he passed away, I feel like he was just scratching the surface of his potential.

  • @HeisenbergFam
    @HeisenbergFam 11 місяців тому +20

    19:55 Disney's Star Wars hotel closing in less than 2 years is no surprise when you realise how greedy they got with the pricing

    • @overlookers
      @overlookers 11 місяців тому +5

      Imagine dropping a near 10k to sleep in a room without real windows

    • @alice45-fgd-456drt
      @alice45-fgd-456drt 11 місяців тому +1

      Yup :( I do get it because of all the immersive stuff, you are paying for some 20 actors to be "on stage" around you at any time and such, but with what the economy is like, it's limited to a very very small group of people who can pay these prices. Add in that it's a very niched theme, and you honestly get a recipe for disaster.

    • @ttintagel
      @ttintagel 9 місяців тому

      @@overlookers If all you were getting was a hotel room, that would indeed have been a ridiculous price.

  • @yawndave
    @yawndave 11 місяців тому +15

    I remember being impressed the first time I walked into the Wilderness Lodge. However, a few years later I visited the Old Faithful Inn. My reaction was, "Oh, wow, now this is the REAL thing!"

  • @ydne
    @ydne 11 місяців тому +119

    Disney has the accumulated brilliance to be able to step aside from greatness.

  • @Razorbacksby90
    @Razorbacksby90 11 місяців тому +14

    Best channel on UA-cam! Needs to be weekly for selfish reasons

    • @McNetDeck
      @McNetDeck 11 місяців тому

      Proper People

  • @joshgoff9330
    @joshgoff9330 10 місяців тому +5

    I love your videos, particularly the Disney ones! The detailed research, obscure information, and entertainment value are unparalleled, great job as always!

  • @SueBobChicVid
    @SueBobChicVid 11 місяців тому +20

    Disney history is always a good topic. Jake has another hit. Even though this is a generally well-covered subject, Jake and his team have added many details and images that are seldom shown.

  • @callieshields1944
    @callieshields1944 11 місяців тому +9

    I feel so sad about the Mediterranean design not coming into fruition, it’s the most unique hotel I’ve ever seen, and definitely would’ve been a standout at the resort. The Venezia was also really nice and dynamic.

  • @jamesdorrell9134
    @jamesdorrell9134 11 місяців тому +4

    So excited for this one. Thanks Jake!

  • @SheAlieMcCartney
    @SheAlieMcCartney 11 місяців тому +76

    Why don’t you talk about the town of Celebration, in Florida? That was abandoned by Disney, and it makes me curious to know more about it. ❤

    • @Kyle-Russell
      @Kyle-Russell 11 місяців тому +12

      It wasn’t abandoned it was just sold off

    • @SheAlieMcCartney
      @SheAlieMcCartney 11 місяців тому +2

      @@Kyle-Russell sold off, abandoned to its own luck… the same, they ABANDONED THE PROJECT.

    • @KatherineThrelkeld-kp3od
      @KatherineThrelkeld-kp3od 11 місяців тому +4

      You can’t really blame them. It was supposed to be the perfect town, but anytime a murder is committed it kind of spoils the perfection and is really hard to bounce back from. Just my opinion.

    • @SheAlieMcCartney
      @SheAlieMcCartney 11 місяців тому +3

      @@KatherineThrelkeld-kp3od their desires in the first place were a little far fetched, tbh..

    • @DavidLLambertmobile
      @DavidLLambertmobile 11 місяців тому +5

      Celebration FL was like a HUGE HOA. A 55 page occupant rule book 📒.

  • @SolielHime
    @SolielHime 10 місяців тому +1

    I very much agree, some of my favorite resorts were built in the 70s/80s, with Wilderness Lodge and the Polynesian being my absolute faves!

  • @after-worknetwork6095
    @after-worknetwork6095 11 місяців тому +4

    Whenever you revisit a concept you do a phenomenal job of making it feel new. Good stuff!

  • @oliverstemp9132
    @oliverstemp9132 11 місяців тому +4

    It would have been great to have seen the Asian and Venetian hotels built. Not to mention those rooms would be worth a fortune now.

  • @tvforeverus
    @tvforeverus 11 місяців тому +3

    Friday’s are the best, as we have a new doc from Bright Sun Films focusing on Walt Disney World? We are the lucky ones indeed!

  • @trust3ppa
    @trust3ppa 11 місяців тому +4

    I already know this is gonna be an absolutely awesome watch!!! Keep up the interesting and exciting work Jake !

  • @JasonSE1982
    @JasonSE1982 11 місяців тому +2

    Another home run, Jake! Fascinating and informative as ever. I love that the Wilderness Lodge grew out of these ideas.

  • @lostlegend2197
    @lostlegend2197 11 місяців тому +5

    Another week. Another enjoyable Bright Sun Films video. 😁

    • @BrightSunFilms
      @BrightSunFilms  11 місяців тому +1

      Thanks!

    • @FateBoost
      @FateBoost 11 місяців тому

      Wished videos where more often but they are always well made

  • @joysbestie25
    @joysbestie25 11 місяців тому +3

    This is so cool. An interesting tidbit, I worked at the Wilderness Lodge for a bit, and one thing we were told so we could explain to guests who would ask about how to get to the Campgrounds (bc people did get them mixed up frequently and to be fair I did once too) is that there used to be a walking path between the Lodge & the Campgrounds but it's been closed due to being dangerous as a result of "ongoing construction" which is the abandoned construction site of the Reflections hotel. It is a bit of an inconvenience for Guests who are trying to get to the other half without taking the confusing bus system.

  • @verebellus
    @verebellus 11 місяців тому +1

    4:00 what an amazing shot

  • @brandonpiazza6210
    @brandonpiazza6210 11 місяців тому +1

    I don’t know where you source your concept art and photos from but it’s the best I’ve seen online. Thank you this video!!! It was a like a present and treasure trove all in one! I’ll definitely be watching it a couple times this weekend! Awesome job!!🥇

  • @jennmars
    @jennmars 2 місяці тому

    i love the constant little mentions of river country, it's what made me find and fall in love with your channel back then

  • @ryouhonoo5
    @ryouhonoo5 11 місяців тому +3

    Bright Sun uploads, I watch. Cheers to another great video Jake

  • @ericb.9907
    @ericb.9907 10 місяців тому +1

    Wow this Italian Venice hotel looks absolutely gorgeous. Would have love to see this!

  • @ZGryphon
    @ZGryphon 11 місяців тому +4

    Meanwhile, there's some nearby parallel universe where they built the Mediterranean, and that universe's Jake just put out a video in his popular "Completed" series about it that features a short digression along the lines of, "Before we get into the details about this amazing hotel, look what boring nonsense they nearly built in that spot instead! Crazy, right?" :/

  • @chris_is_here_oh_no
    @chris_is_here_oh_no 11 місяців тому

    Excellent video, this is incredibly thorough! It's always amazing to get info on the evolution in planning in these documentaries.

  • @jonathonfreeman9233
    @jonathonfreeman9233 11 місяців тому +5

    Hotels serve an interesting barometer for the health of the associated theme park. It's not a perfect barometer, but it is something to gauge health.
    Obviously, Disney creating something of a disaster is a terrifying sign in Star Cruiser ... but when you consider the construction plans for the parks themselves (or rather the complete absence of them) it's no wonder.
    Whereas Universal has generally been building several resorts - while they prior ones haven't acheived Disney Magic they do have fairly distinct vibes and moderate theming ... the one for Epic Universe (rumored to be named Helios) may very well reach old-Disney magic.
    It even applies to smaller parks. My home park of Lagoon never had a hotel anywhere close to it (it's a seasonal summer only park). After they installed the roller coaster Cannibal (which most enthusiasts rightly consider a destination attraction), it finally got a Hampton Suites just outside the propery limits. Obviously a small park (that spends responsibly) would never get their own hotel designed - but jumping from nothing to a comfort-gen-public hotel is a good sign for the park.

  • @alxpluto
    @alxpluto 11 місяців тому +1

    Another great vid, after the old magic kingdom resorts vid and legendary years I was wondering more about these resorts

  • @nathanlong7279
    @nathanlong7279 11 місяців тому +1

    Thank you Jake, I love the video!!❤

  • @Drew_42
    @Drew_42 11 місяців тому

    Wow, I can't imagine the amount of research and editing that went into this video. Great work!

  • @johnroot4886
    @johnroot4886 11 місяців тому +5

    Jake, you and your team never fail to disappoint, you all do a wonderful job, thank you

  • @flykrisjetz
    @flykrisjetz 8 місяців тому +1

    One of your best vids yet!! Awesome job!

  • @YellaBellaReno
    @YellaBellaReno 11 місяців тому

    Thank you for doing another video about this!

  • @Rizzler420-uh4yd
    @Rizzler420-uh4yd 5 місяців тому +1

    I love seeing these old concept images with people waterskiing, sailboating, carrying snorkel and fins… and now we are absolutely *prohibited* from touching the water. 🐊

  • @terraJosh
    @terraJosh 11 місяців тому +1

    Man it would be so cool to have that Venetian Venezia hotel today. Its gorgeous.

  • @TropicalThunder21
    @TropicalThunder21 11 місяців тому +1

    I love these videos so much, I literally don’t know what else to say, you’re just awesome 😭

  • @TokeyTheBear
    @TokeyTheBear 11 місяців тому +2

    Every day Jake makes a new video is a good day. Love it. Another excellent video!

  • @renlysotherlover294
    @renlysotherlover294 11 місяців тому +6

    I’m shocked they didn’t do the Venezia one as that would have been a destination hotel. I would have gone just to see it and i hate Disney. What a stunning idea.

    • @MuhammadAthallahArsyaf
      @MuhammadAthallahArsyaf 11 місяців тому +1

      I think you could’ve gotten the same type of theming in Vegas hotels. Although Disney would probably have a different take on storytelling but yeah people are going to compare it to Vegas.

  • @davyannajones
    @davyannajones 11 місяців тому +2

    They need to build that Mediterranean resort. It’s gorgeous

    • @electricar9
      @electricar9 10 місяців тому

      Much better looking and more authentic design than the Venetian in Las Vegas, NV.

  • @corican
    @corican 11 місяців тому

    I love to see videos on Disney's visionary works. Thanks for this!

  • @rolandoalvarado2979
    @rolandoalvarado2979 8 місяців тому

    I didn't know anything about this. Love to learn. Love this channel

  • @GaminylGames
    @GaminylGames 11 місяців тому +1

    The detail that you put into these videos is admirable. Keep it up man!!

  • @capt.tuttle6292
    @capt.tuttle6292 11 місяців тому +2

    Excellent video as always. Thank you for the information.

  • @winterwildflowers8439
    @winterwildflowers8439 4 місяці тому

    This is hands down the coolest video I’ve ever watched on UA-cam. Sooooooo cool I might need to watch it again 😂 thank you for making this! Info I never knew I wanted to know 😂😂

  • @krab1791
    @krab1791 11 місяців тому +4

    Wilderness Lodge is one of the most beautiful hotels Disney built. It was the first I ever stayed in and was the first Disney Vacation Club property that we bought into (I also own Saratoga Springs and Animal Kingdom).
    thru DVC I have also stayed at the Grand Floridian among other resorts. It too is an absolutely gorges design.
    Reflections looks cold and uninviting.
    You also mentioned Dixie Landings which we stayed at many years ago but that resort was Re themed and became part of Port Orleans. I really missed it when they rethemed it. I never liked the Port Orleans.

  • @ScareFestTTV
    @ScareFestTTV 11 місяців тому +1

    Love the content! Cheers from New Brunswick bro 🇨🇦 😊

  • @MilesCone
    @MilesCone 9 місяців тому +1

    Thank you Jake! I worked at Disney World from 1973 to 2012 and was there during this time span of your video WOW really brought back some great memories!!

  • @asdf072xxp
    @asdf072xxp 11 місяців тому +4

    I thought the Riviera looked like a dressed up office building. Then I saw the drawings for the new Polynesian Tower. All of these DVC buildings (Riviera, Contemporary Tower, Poly Tower) are grossly bland.

  • @tylercorr22
    @tylercorr22 11 місяців тому +1

    Fantastic video! Your research and delivery is perfect!

  • @nunyabizznizz7326
    @nunyabizznizz7326 11 місяців тому +1

    love when a new bright sun vid comes out....👍👍

  • @JstA1denn
    @JstA1denn 11 місяців тому +4

    I’m so early, can’t wait to watch a new episode! Love the videos

  • @SoCalFreelance
    @SoCalFreelance 10 місяців тому +2

    That 1972 footage is amazing.

  • @evidently1
    @evidently1 Місяць тому

    Great job, Jake. Your level of research is fantastic.

  • @shannonyoast6906
    @shannonyoast6906 11 місяців тому +3

    As always great video. 👍

  • @WDWCentral
    @WDWCentral 11 місяців тому +4

    Really disappointed that The Venetian never happened would have been my favorite probably

  • @IAmDaedalus
    @IAmDaedalus 10 місяців тому +1

    I must be honest I am really enjoying this channel Ive been watching so many videos, binge watching whwn I get the chance as well. You are so awesome. Please keep up the good work

  • @FloridaFreaks
    @FloridaFreaks 11 місяців тому

    Nice work man! Great video. We need the Mediterranean Resort.

  • @McfatieYT-
    @McfatieYT- 11 місяців тому +1

    Great video as always!