Rans S-10 Pilot loses prop makes a dead stick landing
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• Taylor Craft 1946
• Rans S-10
I want to thank all of you who have made comments and I want to apologize ahead of time for not answering them. I hope that posting this in the public section everyone will be able to view it and answer most of the common questions that I receive. This is a Rans S-10 LSA airplane that I built about 5 years ago. It took 650 hours to build and it has a Rotax 582. It was the first time I built an airplane and hopefully the last. The most common questions that I get is what the noise or vibration is in the video, why do I keep advancing the throttle, why didn’t I remove the airplane form the runaway and lastly why did the propellar come off. The vibration is simply the GoPro vibration against the canopy which has a round shape and I couldn’t find the exact GoPro mount to affix to the canopy so that sound is not really heard in the cockpit like you can hear it on the video. Yes, on the bottom right door near the latch you can see a small flapping of the Lexan but that doesnt make any sound what so ever. I kept advancing the throttle because the GoPro records at 30 frames per second and the propeller is moving so fast that the eye can’t see it when at cruise speed. So, when the prop fell off I thought I had another/different issue than a missing propellar. Why did I keep the airplane on the runway? I glided into B16 or Whiteford's airport in central NY. It’s a relatively small airport with a hard top and parallel grass strip. I had a radio and called an emergency and there was a parachute/jumping company there who helped me roll it back to the tarmac. There is little to no traffic at that airport and in less than 5 minutes I was moving the airplane. The actual video is almost an hour and you can see that video if you search for video (I’m looking for the full length and will post it here). Finally, why? First off it was pilot error or the mechanics error which was me. The guidelines for mounting a new prop is torque every hour of operation for the ensuing 5 hours (5 torques). However, after the 3rd hour there wasn’t any more torque that was needed. However, seeing that I didn’t know the correct torque procedure might have had some reason as to why it fell off. I was told that the proper way to torque is to back off the nut then retorque, but I wasn’t aware of that. Secondly, and this may not play too much into this, but the propeller was a new wooden propeller more specifically a left hand that aren’t in stock very often and was made 2 weeks before I bought it. Wooded propellers are lamented layers of wood that are kiln dried to reduce or remove moisture in the wood (So I have been told). I hangered my airplane in an open “T” hangar and the propeller faced the south while hangered and when the sun set it would just heat the propeller and there are some who think that may have shrunk the propeller just enough so that the six 5/16 bolts were ever so slightly loose. With all of that said the bolts that mounted the propeller (with a crush plate) to the flange. There are English size threads and metric size threads. I was using the smaller bolts that I had installed and uninstalled many times (the exact number I’m not sure but more that 10 times). I should have just bought the 8mm bolts and used those instead which of course I did when I bought the Warp drive propeller.
I hope that I have answered most of the common questions I get. I’m truly grateful for all the comments and views that I get from you all. I have over 1,500 other videos from my Taylor craft BC12-D and my Cessna 140A. Please give them a look when you get time.
Mad props to this guy.
Pun intended? Lmao
looks like he can use all the props he can get so ill say "Parachutes" to him happy flying all!
Driving in Sardinia
TheDarxide23 more like" Bad props"
TheDarxide23 oh, I get what you did there…
Meanwhile on the ground, some poor shmuck who just narrowly missed being conked by the falling propeller is standing there looking at it, thinking "Lord thunderin' Jesus, wouldja look at that, Martha? Some poor kid tried throwing his boomerang and it got away from him."
Stan Patterson hahahahahahahahha
Blahahahahahah
:-D ............pilllock.... :-)
Don't worry it hit a cow, but its bell protected it...
@DIMZEROCENT That's why we need more cowbell!!!!
I like the way he throttled up again just in case it might work.
He did that several times, like it might grow a new prop or something.
Habit
Thought that it was the engine speeding up once the prop's resistance had gone.
@@stephenphillip5656 No, that happened but at least he had the sense to throttle back before having the complete lack of sense to keep trying to throttle up.
In the description, he said he throttled up because at first he didn't realize he had lost the prop.
I wish they had interviewed him afterwards. I would have loved to hear his comments. He was very calm and skillful to make that dead stick landing.
Technically a no stick landing. Stick went AWOL.
Nice landing. My Dad has to dead stick his Stinson just after take off. At just over 700 feet alt his nose started to violently shake up and down. He realized, after engine shut down, a prop broke off. He declared an emergency, eases the plane in to a turn towards the runway and landed perfectly. Only after inspecting the aircraft did he begin to shake
Left the airplane looking like he was about to have a word with the ground crew.
Pilots like “huhhhh..... I swear I had a prop on takeoff”
Thanks for showing this. You handled the situation very well. It is very valuable to watch videos like this one if You fly yourself.
3:20 "Would you look at that!"
Lukus would you just look at that !!
@@Mrclean431 just look at it -lip smack- look at it
AMonsterNut pshh unreal
He revs the engine one last time just to be sure 🤣🤣
It appeared like he didn't know the prop had come off until he got out.
When it comes of he looks out right side window....00:23
Great job, Sir!
What a great job landing!
Somebody somewhere is wondering where the hell this prop came from in their yard.
ANY ONE THAT YOU CAN WALK AWAY FROM IS A GOOD ONE. GOOD JOB👍
You take off with a prop aircraft and land with a glider! Fantastic landing! Well done!!
Did he ever found his prop?
By his reaction or non reaction seems like this has happened to him a few times or he just an extremely calm human being
On seeing him get out of the plan and looking at the missing prop, I would think he's contemplating having a harsh word with a mechanic or engineer.
You did choose a coffin with wings….
That's why you ALWAYS carry a spare propeller!
And here comes the silly part. This man don't just have TWO spare propellers, he owns two spare AIRPLANES!
@logicallyspkg First single seater I see, having room for two persons side by side. Do you see it too? Or check wikipedia: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rans_S-10_Sakota
also carry spare undies
@@roblaa3198 Yep, if he dies, he quickly undies. Same category as the small bottle labeled "instant hole" in a cartoon.
LOL, despite how obvious it was seems it took this guy several seconds to realise what had happened, and kept revving the engine
What is "LOL" about that? If this had happened to you, you'd probably be dead.
(Standing ovation)
That plane looks like a Crate with wings.
3:17, .Should've Torqued the prop bolts.
That was some damn fine piloting there Mark. If you are the guy in the video that is. What was your altitude when the propeller exited stage left on you?
You can kinda see his altimiter if u squint
The altimeter is easily visible in the video. He starts at 2,000 feet and is descending. At about 1,800 feet the prop comes off. Altimeter must be set to QNH rather than QFE as the altimeter is reading 400 feet on touchdown.
Judging by his cargo shorts, tall white socks, and dad shoes; he’ll be telling this story at all future BBQs.
Not dying is guarantee that you have future stories to share. I do believe this guy couldn’t wait for the next bbq.
I bet he definitely classified this one as a "doozy"
Best part is, he got it on camera!😅
The plane looks like it was built by a bunch of drunk guys at a barbecue
Find me one person who did this and I don't care how they dress; I guarantee they'll be telling this story at all future BBQs.
Another example of how safe flying is. Never in the history of aviation has any aircraft been left up in the sky. Every single one of them have come back down. Perfect record.
tntkop 😂
@Gary Bea so true
There are more planes under the ocean than there are submarines in the sky.
Not true! Once I got stranded in the stratosphere, had to hitchhike home
It's not the fall that kills you, it's the sudden stop at the end that does it.
LOOKS STERNLY AT AIRCRAFT, HANDS ON HIPS
"You've failed me"
"I'm not mad, just disappointed."
Well apparently it was a home-build, so... Yeah. Exactly.
"Now, I'm certain I left that prop RIGHT HERE"
Get off my lawn
That really made me lmao.👍😁
I have to lol so hard at the ending when he just stands there with his hands on his hips. Like "huh, well shit"
Yup. In my mind he walked around the front and just said "Well will you look at that."
you can see hes saying "Rof rof rof rof rof rofrof rof"
"Well I'll be a son of a bitch"
I was waiting for the "Oh...shit" expression on his face, then see him reach into his pocket then pull out a little handful of bolts
I would have to do the same thing....I wouldn't be able to resist.
The hands on the hip after landing made me chuckle "well would you look at that"
Bartle doo
"welp, there's your problem."
“that’s why they say loc tite is your friend. I’ll be damned”.
"just look at it" 🤣
Golly!
that's why you should always have a spare prop!
How do you plan to replace it in mid flight?
LOL yeah and air brakes so you can get out and replace it.
Oh yes - I forgot about the air brakes - maybe one of those new jet packs can be used too.
If you add VTOL.. this should work :?
Yes Sure r/whoosh
Look at the bright side , Now you know what those 2 left over bolts were for.
Sixfoursoul 😂😂😂
Most under rated coment ever
Hahahahaha 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 best comment ever hahahahaha
Prop falls off during flight...
This guy's reaction? "huh, that was weird."
He looked at the front of the plane like the way I look at my cat when it falls asleep in a stupid position 🤣. If I heard a thwpthwpthwp in my car I'm like 🤤😲😭. So chill
That's what I call professionalism
He was trying to process the fact that the prop really was gone. In actual flight, there are times when you don't even see the prop at all, so I can understand why he was double checking.
@@morteparla6926 Ok yeah, but he stares at in disbelief for like many seconds. It's not like looking for a crack. The thing is gone lol
This is almost all you train for during flight school. Hundreds of times
The ending is almost comical. He walks around to look at it’s like “well, shit.” Kind of expression. Glad to see he’s ok.
He should have pulled off the runway and onto the grass at the end.
Someone else might need that runway.
Now you're a glider pilot too. Great job.
Always look on the bright side, yeah?
Yeah, I quit buying my props from harbor freight...
He guns it one more time just to make sure the prop really is gone.
The noise is his GoPro vibrating on the non shock mount.
It's a Russian plane designed and built by Alexander Proppopoff.
I was surprised the engine kept running. I think I would have shut it down once the prop disappeared.
@@RandomTorok go to bed, Santa is coming.
@@RandomTorok
He probably still needed it for power to the instruments and landing gear.
In my day, we flew without props all the time, uphill both ways, with no shoes on.
I want to thank all of you who have made comments and I want to apologize ahead of time for not answering them. I hope that posting this in the public section everyone will be able to view it and answer most of the common questions that I receive. This is a Rans S-10 LSA airplane that I built about 5 years ago. It took 650 hours to build and it has a Rotax 582. It was the first time I built an airplane and hopefully the last. The most common questions that I get is what the noise or vibration is in the video, why do I keep advancing the throttle, why didn’t I remove the airplane form the runaway and lastly why did the propellar come off. The vibration is simply the GoPro vibration against the canopy which has a round shape and I couldn’t find the exact GoPro mount to affix to the canopy so that sound is not really heard in the cockpit like you can hear it on the video. Yes, on the bottom right door near the latch you can see a small flapping of the Lexan but that doesnt make any sound what so ever. I kept advancing the throttle because the GoPro records at 30 frames per second and the propeller is moving so fast that the eye can’t see it when at cruise speed. So, when the prop fell off I thought I had another/different issue than a missing propellar. Why did I keep the airplane on the runway? I glided into B16 or Whiteford's airport in central NY. It’s a relatively small airport with a hard top and parallel grass strip. I had a radio and called an emergency and there was a parachute/jumping company there who helped me roll it back to the tarmac. There is little to no traffic at that airport and in less than 5 minutes I was moving the airplane. The actual video is almost an hour and you can see that video if you search for video (I’m looking for the full length and will post it here). Finally, why? First off it was pilot error or the mechanics error which was me. The guidelines for mounting a new prop is torque every hour of operation for the ensuing 5 hours (5 torques). However, after the 3rd hour there wasn’t any more torque that was needed. However, seeing that I didn’t know the correct torque procedure might have had some reason as to why it fell off. I was told that the proper way to torque is to back off the nut then retorque, but I wasn’t aware of that. Secondly, and this may not play too much into this, but the propeller was a new wooden propeller more specifically a left hand that aren’t in stock very often and was made 2 weeks before I bought it. Wooded propellers are lamented layers of wood that are kiln dried to reduce or remove moisture in the wood (So I have been told). I hangered my airplane in an open “T” hangar and the propeller faced the south while hangered and when the sun set it would just heat the propeller and there are some who think that may have shrunk the propeller just enough so that the six 5/16 bolts were ever so slightly loose. With all of that said the bolts that mounted the propeller (with a crush plate) to the flange. There are English size threads and metric size threads. I was using the smaller bolts that I had installed and uninstalled many times (the exact number I’m not sure but more that 10 times). I should have just bought the 8mm bolts and used those instead which of course I did when I bought the Warp drive propeller.
I hope that I have answered most of the common questions I get. I’m truly grateful for all the comments and views that I get from you all. I have over 1,500 other videos from my Taylor craft BC12-D and my Cessna 140A. Please give them a look when you get time.
Haha first comment joke that truly made me laugh
Underrated comment right here. My dad did everything uphill both ways with no winter boots. Just sneakers with plastic bread bags inside
Dad, is that you?!
Dont forget in the snow and 125°
Thank goodness there is gravity. . . he'd have been stuck up there forever
😁🤪😂😂😂
nah there is drag. He'd be fine
Thanks goodness for aerofoils and atmosphere you gravity is an extremely weak force.
😂🤣😅 I laughed too hard at that
@Tetra Grammaton fucking flat earth idiot
I'd be fixing that annoying piece of trim before it drove me nuts. Oh, and a new prop.
Think that's just the camera rattling and probably nowhere near as loud in the cockpit as it sounds in the video
@@sauercrowder Yep. That's what he wrote in his description.
@@mosslimbayter277 Lol. To be fair it is kind of a wall of text
It's the plastic bit. You trust the word of a guy whose prop "fell" off?
@@MajorMalfunction It really isn't something important enough to get worked up over man
He landed left of centerline, should have went around.
DSC800 he didnt have a propeller bro how tf he gonna loop around
@@willdavis7846 Really, Will?
@@willdavis7846 you got me there, i don't have all the answers.
Will Davis r/woooosh
No prop or time for a go around but he landed into the wind. Nicely done on his part!
Most impressive. Especially that fact his shorts were not stained!
Precisely why this was actually a commercial shoot for Depends.
Here is the reply from the pilot, he buried it in a post below, by replying to a question and it's about 50 spots down, so, here you go:
" Mark Penell
Mark Penell
6 days ago
I want to thank all of you who have made comments and I want to apologize ahead of time for not answering them. I hope that posting this in the public section everyone will be able to view it and answer most of the common questions that I receive. This is a Rans S-10 LSA airplane that I built about 5 years ago. It took 650 hours to build and it has a Rotax 582. It was the first time I built an airplane and hopefully the last. The most common questions that I get is what the noise or vibration is in the video, why do I keep advancing the throttle, why didn’t I remove the airplane form the runaway and lastly why did the propellar come off. The vibration is simply the GoPro vibration against the canopy which has a round shape and I couldn’t find the exact GoPro mount to affix to the canopy so that sound is not really heard in the cockpit like you can hear it on the video. Yes, on the bottom right door near the latch you can see a small flapping of the Lexan but that doesnt make any sound what so ever. I kept advancing the throttle because the GoPro records at 30 frames per second and the propeller is moving so fast that the eye can’t see it when at cruise speed. So, when the prop fell off I thought I had another/different issue than a missing propellar. Why did I keep the airplane on the runway? I glided into B16 or Whiteford's airport in central NY. It’s a relatively small airport with a hard top and parallel grass strip. I had a radio and called an emergency and there was a parachute/jumping company there who helped me roll it back to the tarmac. There is little to no traffic at that airport and in less than 5 minutes I was moving the airplane. The actual video is almost an hour and you can see that video if you search for video (I’m looking for the full length and will post it here). Finally, why? First off it was pilot error or the mechanics error which was me. The guidelines for mounting a new prop is torque every hour of operation for the ensuing 5 hours (5 torques). However, after the 3rd hour there wasn’t any more torque that was needed. However, seeing that I didn’t know the correct torque procedure might have had some reason as to why it fell off. I was told that the proper way to torque is to back off the nut then retorque, but I wasn’t aware of that. Secondly, and this may not play too much into this, but the propeller was a new wooden propeller more specifically a left hand that aren’t in stock very often and was made 2 weeks before I bought it. Wooded propellers are lamented layers of wood that are kiln dried to reduce or remove moisture in the wood (So I have been told). I hangered my airplane in an open “T” hangar and the propeller faced the south while hangered and when the sun set it would just heat the propeller and there are some who think that may have shrunk the propeller just enough so that the six 5/16 bolts were ever so slightly loose. With all of that said the bolts that mounted the propeller (with a crush plate) to the flange. There are English size threads and metric size threads. I was using the smaller bolts that I had installed and uninstalled many times (the exact number I’m not sure but more that 10 times). I should have just bought the 8mm bolts and used those instead which of course I did when I bought the Warp drive propeller.
I hope that I have answered most of the common questions I get. I’m truly grateful for all the comments and views that I get from you all. I have over 1,500 other videos from my Taylor craft BC12-D and my Cessna 140A. Please give them a look when you get time. "
Nice job bringing it down safely. Also pls fly in To eagles mere next summer!
Did you ever locate the prop that fell off?
Just glad you and 99% of your plane made it back safely.
Very lucky and very brave under pressure....
Great landing.
*Prop falls off*
Pilot: Well this is awkward
“Well it was there when I took off...”
Rev the engine harder, maybe it will grow a new prop.
Warsign01 😂
LOL
It slowly comes out of the crank and unfolds
Yeah, Is it really gone?
I think it will rev quite happily on it’s one once the prop falls off.
And I think he was more interested in landing than worryinG about the now unless engine’s RPM.
I love how this guy loses a prop mid-flight, doesn't utter so much as a word, turns around, lands the plane, gets out and looks at his plane with righteous indignation like, "Dangit, now I have to get a new prop." How does someone go through life with those enormous brass balls?
These things tend to happen when your pilots license was given to you by someone worth their mettal.
The same types of people who don’t do proper preflight inspections 😂😂
I'm pretty sure that's most of what flight training is -- first the basics how-to-fly-it, then: just training for ridiculous contingencies you hope won't ever happen.
@@reallyWyrd
I'm actually pretty sure private license training includes some form of simulated dead-stick.
I think he talk on the radio, you can see him press the button on his stick.
Take-offs are optional, landings are mandatory.
Unless you hit escape velocity...
For those who opt for a take-off. You're coming down one way another.
Unless you vanish into thin air
damn hard to land if you never took off.... think about it.
@@hotrodray9884 r/wooosh
Props to the pilot I guess, or not...
props .... propellerz...
the prop is the propeller of the plane and he said "props to the pilot"
You don't?
Thomasio thank you
Thomasio thank you
Note to self: return that roll of Harbor Freight safety wire.
Lmao not too sure there was safett wire or it was wired to loosen ha
Hahaha I thought I was the only one who regularly makes Harbor Freight jokes.
Hey! Don’t disrespect the hazard fraud.
The propeller is still flying around trying to deal with the abandonment issues and not knowing which direction to go in life.
Like most liberals
😂
He fell into a downward spiral
i feel its pain............
Just like the Republican Party now that Trump is gone
“Lefty Loosey, Righty Tighty; darn... why can’t I remember that!”
Except for early 60s Mopars lug nuts.
@@Daniel-Weaver reverse thread on the left side?
In all seriousness, way to stay calm enough to get it on the ground safely.
Can't do anything else
“So that’s what that button does.”
🤣🤣
😂
You just won the best damn comment award. Rotfl
I hate it when I accidentally press the "detach the propeller" button
He’s so calm. Great training. Wow!
In order to maximise the chances of a favourable outcome for any adverse situation, one should always remain calm no matter what is transpiring. One can train yourself to remain calm in any situation, even a situation you may have experienced before you encounter it. With great certainty, I can stay calm through any situation.
I cant even stay calm for an exam.
He’s so stupid to don't shut the engine....more deadly landing ;0)))
@@genana4541 I guess his electronics depend on e running engine
@@gerardmollema ...but it’s not OK :( due to fire hazard
Skilled pilot; kept his wits about him, nice smooth energy preserving turn back to the runway. And his reward.....he didn’t ruin his plane landing in a corn field.
As a a bonus, he got it on camera!😅
I was eyeballing the highway to the right, but I didn’t know there was a airport just to his 8 o’clock
Mark. I have been a flight instructor for 30 years. I would fly with you any day. We can all learn from your calm demeanor and your skillful handling of this emergency. Well done!!
My flight instructor kept reminding me over and over .... and over, before anything FLY THE PLANE and keep your eyes looking outside the cockpit. It has always worked and you tend to remember things that are drilled into your memory.
@@richardsmith4187 Mine would always say, "if your engine quits, where you gonna land"?
Just not in a plane which he built! 😂
and just to think I get upset when I put a hole in my sox
Does that include revving the engine a few times after the prop was gone or was it that he didn't realize it was missing until the walk around on the ground?
It fell off..........it fell off.......it fell the fuck off!
those guys at Sears working on this guys plane too?
lol, Ron White
Now that's brutal! Good one!
Clean up your language potty mouth!
You mean gunny? What the hell is a guney? A guney goo goo?
The expression “dead stick landing” actually harkens back to the days when all propellers were made of wood. The expression has nothing to do with the control “stick”, it is a reference to a propeller that has stopped turning (i.e. “dead”). So technically, this was a “missing stick landing” - LOL!
Thank you for posting, i was just about to ask someone why this is a dead stick landing, when the stick was still operating ok, then i suddenly see your comment, so thanks again and a Merry Christmas to you and your family and loved ones.
Amusingly, the propeller that fell off of this aircraft was wooden ^^ Though, more of a "no stick" landing in this case..
Or a No Stick landing
Thanks Cliff Claven ......
Prop didn't "stick"around!
Guy casually throws an industrial-size nut sac over his shoulder and hops out of the plane like nothing ever happened.👍
I think he may have needed to run to the bathroom to change his shorts...
Lmao! That's some funny shit 🤣
Honestly, I don’t think that plane has enough cargo capacity to carry his nuts....he had a second plane behind him carrying them. Total badass.
@Phil M He installed it himself, tho :p
@Phil M buying a new prop, and probably checking the engine to see if it overspeed or not
Well done! I had one single dead-stick landing in some 30-odd years flying. I also made it to the runway (was some 5000ft AGL and near the airport). On a related note - once a guy was doing aerobatics in a Fokker T-21 at the local flying club and he lost his prop. He landed and it seemed that was that. A couple of hours later a very upset man showed up at the flying club with the apparently undamaged prop, saying *_"I think this belongs to someone here. It fell in my back yard during a barbecue. You people could have killed someone"._* Awkward moment.
i bet it was.
" Or knocked some sense into one of these losers ".
hahahahah, well at least you got prop back!!
It was only the Prop er thing to do.
"You people could have killed someone"
He says to the guy who could've been killed by the lack of power.
well I heard somewhere that the origin of the name “dead stick” landing referred to propellers planes with a faulty engine where the propeller was nothing more than a “dead stick” of wood, so this should be identified as a “gone stick” landing. 🤭🤗
My instructor had a habit of reaching up and killing the mags during different times on an approach just to make me put it down with no power.
@@justins.1283 It's a good thing to practice. Loss of power within gliding range of an airport is one of the few disasters that can be averted after it happens. Be a shame if a perfectly landable aircraft smacked the tarmac due to pilot error.
I wanted him to thrash the plane with a branch at the end like in Fawlty Towers
Imagine finding a propeller in your back yard next to the airport.
I remember a woman in Quartz Hill, CA who had a wheel fall into her front yard where she was gardening after I watched it fall from a Piper Cherokee that had just taken off. The landing at John Wayne Airport was on the news that evening.
I lived next to Bankstown Airport in nsw Australia ,, we woud find strange things on the lawn when mowing the grass ,, the best was a wheel from a cessna 187
we took it to the areodrome and they said Oh thats where it ended up ,, They did ask if there was any damage ,,
Rob
RPL
NSW Australia
The empty glance at the missing prop in the last seconds...
(3:23) ........well there's your problem. You lost your propeller..... :)
The front fell off!
There is no problem so bad that you can’t make it worse by panicking.
So VERY true!! When ANYONE goes into panic mode, chances are very close to 100% they'll do the wrong thing.
That's what I always say!
Surprised there was a seat cushion left after that pucker factor level.
It was immediately shat back in place upon touch down.
OneSkiWonder there was
He keistered it
Are you saying his clenching ass cheeks chomped off the seat cushion.. lmao
Someone on the ground throws a boomerang, 10 seconds later a propeller lands at his feet. “Holy shit my boomerang not only came back but it leveled up!”
Badumm Tssssss :)
yea! Props to him!
Nice to have an airport near by. Priceless the look and the body language on his face while examining where the prop use to be.
that fan on the front was just to keep the pilot cool anyways right?
Just saw Mark put his answer under my question and not the main section. Mark wrote:
I want to thank all of you who have made comments and I want to apologize ahead of time for not answering them. I hope that posting this in the public section everyone will be able to view it and answer most of the common questions that I receive. This is a Rans S-10 LSA airplane that I built about 5 years ago. It took 650 hours to build and it has a Rotax 582. It was the first time I built an airplane and hopefully the last. The most common questions that I get is what the noise or vibration is in the video, why do I keep advancing the throttle, why didn’t I remove the airplane form the runaway and lastly why did the propellar come off. The vibration is simply the GoPro vibration against the canopy which has a round shape and I couldn’t find the exact GoPro mount to affix to the canopy so that sound is not really heard in the cockpit like you can hear it on the video. Yes, on the bottom right door near the latch you can see a small flapping of the Lexan but that doesnt make any sound what so ever. I kept advancing the throttle because the GoPro records at 30 frames per second and the propeller is moving so fast that the eye can’t see it when at cruise speed. So, when the prop fell off I thought I had another/different issue than a missing propellar. Why did I keep the airplane on the runway? I glided into B16 or Whiteford's airport in central NY. It’s a relatively small airport with a hard top and parallel grass strip. I had a radio and called an emergency and there was a parachute/jumping company there who helped me roll it back to the tarmac. There is little to no traffic at that airport and in less than 5 minutes I was moving the airplane. The actual video is almost an hour and you can see that video if you search for video (I’m looking for the full length and will post it here). Finally, why? First off it was pilot error or the mechanics error which was me. The guidelines for mounting a new prop is torque every hour of operation for the ensuing 5 hours (5 torques). However, after the 3rd hour there wasn’t any more torque that was needed. However, seeing that I didn’t know the correct torque procedure might have had some reason as to why it fell off. I was told that the proper way to torque is to back off the nut then retorque, but I wasn’t aware of that. Secondly, and this may not play too much into this, but the propeller was a new wooden propeller more specifically a left hand that aren’t in stock very often and was made 2 weeks before I bought it. Wooded propellers are lamented layers of wood that are kiln dried to reduce or remove moisture in the wood (So I have been told). I hangered my airplane in an open “T” hangar and the propeller faced the south while hangered and when the sun set it would just heat the propeller and there are some who think that may have shrunk the propeller just enough so that the six 5/16 bolts were ever so slightly loose. With all of that said the bolts that mounted the propeller (with a crush plate) to the flange. There are English size threads and metric size threads. I was using the smaller bolts that I had installed and uninstalled many times (the exact number I’m not sure but more that 10 times). I should have just bought the 8mm bolts and used those instead which of course I did when I bought the Warp drive propeller. The propeller was never found
I hope that I have answered most of the common questions I get. I’m truly grateful for all the comments and views that I get from you all. I have over 1,500 other videos from my Taylor craft BC12-D and my Cessna 140A. Please give them a look when you get time.
Thanks for the follow up comments. Thankfully you made a safe landing. My first flight instructor said any landing you walk away from is a good landing. 😎
Just glad you're OK...✝️🙏👏👍
Fantastic to have your view on the event. Also, despite all the great comedy in many of the comments, I am sure everyone of us out here is very happy for you that you made a perfectly safe landing on a runway and are with us to tell the tale. 😊
Kudos to the manufacturer and the mechanic for taking responsibility. 😉
Be safe up there.
😮
"That's what those spare bolts were for"
Thanks for the prop, its stuck in my lawn now
It sounds like a two-stroke sewing machine without that propeller.
It's a two-stroke sewing machine motor even with the prop.
Stephan Edelman its a chainsaw engine
Name a brand of 2 stroke sewing machines, just curious?
........Or a chainsaw that uses a 582cc water cooled, inline twin. :)
"the front fell off"
Is that normal?
Was not held on with sellotape
a chance in a million!
not enough duck tape.
Is that unusual?
Bet that was a poorly re-torqued prop. Watch out for those wood props gents, they can relax once spun around rapidly, exposed to sunlight, and drying out.
Yep, he explains that in the description.
Prop couldn't handle the weight of those balls.
Pretty sure that's the actual reason.
I agree
He didnt have balls lmao, you dont need to be brave to lose a propeller.
Homoerotic
better to lose the whole prop than lose a blade. the engine will rip out of the airframe before you can even put your hand on the throttle. rearward cg. yur gonna die.
It's just scary knowing that there's a prop out there walking the streets. Untethered. Full of rage. Not knowing where to go next, who to look towards for direction. A prop like that has nothing to lose. A prop like that is dangerous.
3:17 had me crying.
@@shootmcrunfast 😂 .. this is the best comment on here.
@@shootmcrunfast It was hilarious but pilots train for shit like this. In any case of engine failure, pitch to best glide speed first and then look for somewhere to land. Luckily he was still close to the runway and could turn around. Thought he was going to aim for one of those fields at first lol
It's Dad's stare of disappointment lmao!
@@Howdy762 😂. ..yeah, pretty much the same. .. and we've all had to struggle through that one. 🤣
"I think we need to talk about what happened up there"
Fuel,....check
Tyres....check
Wings.....check
Prop.....prop...mmm, well I know I had one when I left the car park thingy....
He just installed a new ceiling fan in someone's house!
or a new sun roof.
😂
What a kind and generous man..
🤣
...and he didnt say one damn word from the first vibration until he was on the ground looking at the front end. Not even one
Damn, shi*, f*** or nothing. Guy was as cool as a cucumber. Very professional. Mark Pernell, you are one hell of a good pilot.
Thank you for your de-briefing published below. Very helpful.
He said something, you can see using the radio, but we can't hear what he said because of all the noise and vibrations.
I would have been screaming like a little girl 🤣
I wonder who's displaying the propeller on there living room wall.
Finder's Keepers. Possession is 9/10 of the law. It's their property now.
Probably still sticking out of the barn roof.
You can tell that this pilot was very seasoned. he was collected and attentive. Aside from the prop falling off the only other thing that was annoying was the floppy canopy in the corner. Good job at keeping a cool head under the circumstances. Any landing you can walk away from is always a good one. :-)
Or if you see the crash trucks you know you didn't get killed :-)
Is that why he revved the engine with no prop 4 times?
Why do you think he did it Dark? If you're going to make a comment like that, at least give us your ever-so-wise analysis?
Ed Spencer yes I hated that and it's the GoPro vibrating on the canopy
Dark Angel the thing is, you don't really see the prop while flying. The reason we see it is the frame rate on the camera.
He didn't land prop-erly.
I want to thank all of you who have made comments and I want to apologize ahead of time for not answering them. I hope that posting this in the public section everyone will be able to view it and answer most of the common questions that I receive. This is a Rans S-10 LSA airplane that I built about 5 years ago. It took 650 hours to build and it has a Rotax 582. It was the first time I built an airplane and hopefully the last. The most common questions that I get is what the noise or vibration is in the video, why do I keep advancing the throttle, why didn’t I remove the airplane form the runaway and lastly why did the propeller come off. The vibration is simply the GoPro vibration against the canopy where the GoPro attachment has a round shape and I couldn’t find the exact GoPro mount to affix to the canopy so that sound is not really heard in the cockpit like you can hear it on the video. Yes, on the bottom right door near the latch you can see a small flapping of the Lexan but that doesnt make any sound what so ever. I kept advancing the throttle because the GoPro records at 30 frames per second and the propeller is moving so fast that the eye can’t see it when at cruise speed. So, when the prop fell off I thought I had another/different issue than a missing propeller. Why did I keep the airplane on the runway? I glided into B16 or Whiteford's airport in central NY. It’s a relatively small airport with a hard top and parallel grass strip. I had a radio and called an emergency and there was a parachute/jumping company there who helped me roll it back to the tarmac. There is little to no traffic at that airport and in less than 5 minutes I was moving the airplane. The actual video is almost an hour and you can see that video if you search for video (I’m looking for the full length and will post it here). Finally, why? First off it was pilot error or the mechanics error which was me. The guidelines for mounting a new prop is torque every hour of operation for the ensuing 5 hours (5 torques). However, after the 3rd hour there wasn’t any more torque that was needed. However, seeing that I didn’t know the correct torque procedure might have had some reason as to why it fell off. I was told that the proper way to torque is to back off the nut then retorque, but I wasn’t aware of that. Secondly, and this may not play too much into this, but the propeller was a new wooden propeller more specifically a left hand that aren’t in stock very often and was made 2 weeks before I bought it. Wooded propellers are lamented layers of wood that are kiln dried to reduce or remove moisture in the wood (So I have been told). I hangered my airplane in an open “T” hangar and the propeller faced the south while hangered and when the sun set it would just heat the propeller and there are some who think that may have shrunk the English size threads and metric size threads. I was using the smaller bolts that I had installed and uninstalled many times (the exact number I’m not sure but more than 10 times). I should have just bought the 8mm bolts and used those instead which of course I did when I bought the Warp drive propeller. The 6 bolts snapped off completely at the flange and the spinner., crush plate, and propeller detached. None of this was ever found.
I hope that I have answered most of the common questions I get. I’m truly grateful for all the comments and views that I get from you all. I have over 1,500 other videos from my Taylor craft BC12-D and my Cessna 140A. Please give them a look when you get time.
Whatdyamean?
@@MarkPenell You did a fine job of handling the situation. I have some experience in engine failures but no propeller detatchments ( thankfully ).
Your honesty is refreshing.
@@MarkPenell Thanks for explaining! Good job on the landing and good luck for your future flights! :)
He did not butter
Were you aware the prop flew off/broke? Just curious since you kept revving the engine, and at the end you look surprised
I was not. It just never came to mind. Thought there was something wrong with the exhaust.
oh gotcha, yeah I never wouldve guessed either unless I saw it fly off, good thing it didnt damage the rest of the plane!
I totally agree. That's why i looked out the windows to see if the gear was still there.
007K. Maby for the better you where not panicing
Good thing you didnt find out it was gone during a go-around...
Imagine finding a prop stuck in your front yard, or roof of your house and wonder...
Hands on hips : “Well would ya look at that!! Just look at thaaaat!”
I thought that you did a solid job landing dead stick. You kept calm , identified a target and put the plane down professionally. Well done!
I can handle that. Hold my beer
I can handle holding your beer, hold my beer
Wow! With everybody holding someone elses beer it'll be an epidemic waiting to happen! :O LOL
AirstripBum it's chain reaction, everyone will end up with someone else's beer in their hand and accomplish nothing
friedchicken1981 well I'll be the only one without a beer in my hand because I'm the first person... Right?
***** not exactly because while im holding his beer i passed my beer to you so im only holding one beer
Props to the pilot for landing.... :)
I see what you did there 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
Victor Lawver I was hoping you would :)
PaxGrime | Viper Boosting you're dumb...
PaxGrime | Viper Boosting a
Thank you Brother, for posting this. I've had to perform an off field landing when a coolant hose blew off my Rotax 912ULS because the retaining clamp had been installed incorrectly. High cylinder head temps gradually reduced clearances that quickly reduced available power as I desperately searched for the clearest patch of undeveloped land below me. Kudos to you for successfully managing this event with no thrust at all. Don't let anyone affect you with criticism if they have never been in this position. This was not a video game. You performed admirably.
Looking in disbelief:
“Yup I lost my prop for sure.”
Lucky to have a runway just there!
Yes it was.
Nothing stretches the glide like a windmilling stub.
very true
Always remember to feather your stub.
but what happened? was it pilot's fault?
*walks around plane*
“Huh..well would you look at that”
I was looking for this comment. 🤣
Lmao that shit was funny
Technically a No Stick landing!, cause he lost the spinny "stick"
So that's where the phrase "dead stick landing" came from? The "stick" is not the control stick, but the prop?
@@suzukirider9030 yes
@@yetidynamics bruh
"What you mean it stalled?"
~flips the patties~
"I'm telling you Joe the shit stopped working"
Losing his prop, staying calm and doing a perfect landing on a rwy. Now he has enough time to walk back to search his fxxx prop. 😂
I'll give him props for that landing.
clearly not when he needed it
a bit too late
What he did was perfect.
He followed the #1 rule of flying ie: "FLY THE PLANE"
Kudos Sir. You're an inspiration to all aviators.
That was NOT perfect. The Landing was bad and he dont go off the Runway
@@mfcmichael3564 You don't know what the hell you're talking about. HE LOST HIS PROP. How was he supposed to taxi off the runway? And could you dead-stick a plane down that well? This was a textbook emergency landing my friend.
@@JohnRBooth well to be fair all pilots is trained to do this, its also taught to keep cool and don't panic, keep airspeed (drop your flaps), a quick look at your rate of decent (from that make a quick avg of how much time you have in the air), look for an open space to make a landing if you can't make it back to the runway (you do this while you give your signal "pan pan pan")...
you see the thing with fixed wing aircraft is that they can glide if there is lost of power, helicopters on the other hand well i wouldn't step foot in one of them things... i'm no daredevil...
@@dunhillsupramk3 helicopters can autorotate. We train for engine failures on everything. Well, except gliders, then we train for rope breaks.