I used to have a 2022 GTS standard range for 6 months which I had to sell because of going overseas. Didn't have any problems with the batteries. True, it loses up to 2% of its charge per day when parked with the batteries in the scooter which will be way less with them removed from the scooter. Latter is adviced in the manual if not in use for a longer period. But this is used for maintaining the GPS and the ECU battery. ECU battery is just a very small rechargeable battery which can stand a lot. My bike was produced late 2021 and only started being used some 6 months later with a completely empty ECU battery. After being charged by the main batteries it worked perfectly fine. Thing is though you have to keep at least some charge in the main batteries because when they're at zero they die beyond repair. When not using the scooter for several months it might be necessary to charge them occasionally, via a smart plug when you're not around. When you're doing a lot of full throttle it might be better to choose the extended range 35Ah version.
Keep the batteries at 50% if not using the bike. That’s the advice. I keep my bike indoors, no GPS, so last winter I decided to disconnect the battery and the ECU went to 1% charged back up when I wanted to use the bike but the ECU never ever found the GPS signal again and it had to be replaced under warranty. Now I just charge up to around 60% and never let it drop below 30%
I am desperately looking for someone to advise me I have the same model in the video. The GPS has lost connection to charge ECU battery. It's been in all night still the app is not working. The ECU will not connect. How much to replace in London
My 2021 Lifan E3 electric scooter only cost me €2,600 and never missed a beat. 4,400 km up on it now. Also its has way more storage under he seat and comes with a back box as standard. It only has one battery. Top speed is only 50km/hr but that's OK as I only ever use it around the town and that is the speed limit around there anyway.
Question: is it possible to disconnect the batteries by leaving them in the scooter? I think there are no space problems for the one under the seat, but what about the one in the front?
disconnect both batteries make sure they are charged 90 percent and now u can leave both batteries in the bike for about 3 to 4 months no problem as long as its not to cold like 25 to 30 degrees and as long as its not 100 degrees and highter now u got the true facts about how to maintain youre scooter
I regret reading some comments of dissapointment. I've got my Niu NQI gts sport (14"wheels- Niu batteries/standard range) for 2,5 years now, 10.000 km. It has never ever let me down, after using it extensively in all conditions. Never serviced it, nothing. The thing just goes on and on...smooth ride, never used the app. Interesting to know they returned to the Panasonic batteries for the long range version. Could be the better option...😉
Not sure what type of batteries are used, but some battery chemistries don't like sitting for days on end at full charge - it reduces the overall life. My DJI drone automatically discharges it's batteries after 3 days if they are full. It's a built-in feature. I also store my model aircraft LiPo batteries at around 20% charge.
Thanks for awesome review! I have the Niu NGT 2020 version. It has 12949 km on the meter, I've been using it heavily! Mine has the original Panasonic batteries that NIU used to provide. 60V 35AH x2. And the charger came with the splitter to be able to charge both batteries at once. I live in Sweden, we have 230V power, but it takes about 5h to charge from empty to full. I feel NIU got cheap lately, they stopped using high quality Panasonic batteries and went for EVE instead. And stopped providing accessories. I'm gonna keep my NGT for long and see how much it can do! Hopefully NIU gets back on track.
As I mentioned, they did go back to Panasonic batteries since they are much better. More range and probably more stable. The cheaper Chinese ones really dont work for a bike like this.
Niu should upgrade the cells too.Lipo4 or gto which u can charge over 20000 cycles.Only the performance is not ready yet for bikes and cost lot of space.
u can its the white wire inside the battery now once u do that no more gps on the scooter and now u will have to install youre own gps if u like on the bike like under it air tags or the tile gps is what i will go with now no more problems even when the battery is drained to 0 percent which i dont recomend but now u are gucci you are welcome rember they did that so they can keep u as there customer 4 life and i dont like that u should be able to buy from who ever; but the real reason is after youre warranty is over they can send a virus to youre bike threw the gps these are chinos they play chess not checkers so be smart and disconnect from them you are welcome 23 yr s in this game i just gaVE A jem out u guys are welcome
This also happens to my NQI GTS 2020 model. So Sad. Do you think I can buy Panasonic Battery in JP and ship it here in Philippines? you think possible? My dealer here don't have Panasonics.
I looked at the Xeam web site and they do sell Panasonic batteries. They are quite expensive though. Almost the same price as the whole bike! store.mssjapan.jp/fs/mssstore/XMNQi2-60111154 Also, these appear to be 2020 Panasonic batteries, not the newer 2023 batteries. www.xeam.jp/niu/ngt/ I think its better to wait for the newer ones to appear for sale.
@@electrifyjapan5554 Thanks for replying! Really appreciate it. I'll check that link. I watched your videos it really is amazing to care on planet having those EV's. thank you!
I have M + sport. Biggest trouble is winter driving. It`s impossible on ice, due its 110 Nm torq. It have two speed setting, but lower is too weak to keep on while driving. Its rims are too expensive for studded tires. Its range is up to 70 kilometers with lower speed.
The main battery will no longer drain, but the ECU battery will drain and die, which means you won't be able to access the bike remotely. I think that (12volt) battery is also lithium ion, so probably best not to let it drain to zero. Whenever I've removed the main batteries to charge them indoors, the 12v tends to drain pretty fast for some reason.
@@electrifyjapan5554 it drains because it’s constantly sending GPS information and it’s also connected by its inbuilt SMS for firmware updates to the bike
@@electrifyjapan5554 the ecu battery will not die, I have mine 1 year without connecting the batteries and it is still alive... and there is not 12V battery in your scooter...only on EVO
Hello sir Thank you for the vid! Did the problem with the battery happened even on the start of the ride? Or just after some time of riding? If it happened on the start of a ride in a cold day It seems to me less likely that the battery got to hot
the range ll definitly increase when u can switch off the gps.I was trying to let the batteries leave in the bike almost a month and the gps suck more then 20 %.
Ciao! Vorrei chiedere una domanda, Io ho trovato un scooter esattamente come questo modello non mai utilizzato da 2021 quindi è nuovo, ora vorrei sapere come riesco capire la saluta della batteria?
Ihave the same exact model ans i beleive i have the same problem with the batteries, they changed the old batterie for free, under warranty, but i dont know if i'll have the same problem again...do you have any update? thanks!
I'm still waiting for the Japanese dealer to get back to me about my battery. They haven't sent it back to me and I still have a loaner battery. I know this years bikes have a new Panasonic battery but they haven't offered to replace them. Niu wont do anything since they don't have an official dealer in Japan and cant look at my bike.
I cant see anything like that just from using it normally. You probably need to remove the plastic tub that holds the battery under the seat to reach it.
Yeah they have sort of breaker but not like a switch u can turn on or off. its connected next to the controller.u cant miss it follow the red wires.But i had also a niu lite but cant find any breaker.Power cut off via ignition key.
yeah u need a license but its weird because when u use only one battery u only go 50 so then its a moped again.everything it goes faster as 50 it belongs to 125.crazy laws need asap to change this.performance of 125 is almost same as moped.
Its the only EV ive seen with that kind of drain. Only solution is to take out the main battery and just let the smaller ECU battery die. Hopefully this is something they will fix in the long term. Or possibly with an update.
why is the battery so damm expensive .....its the price of the scotter .....this is rediculous..in canada it sells for 2199.00 canadian ...over here the damm battery sells for 1550.00....that means once the battery is fried you need to scrap the scotter and get a new one...what a rip off ...you can keep your junk thx
yup just happened to me, battery died, insurance company luckily covering it by paying me 2000$ for the bike, so I loose the bike and battery but get 2k. Won´t get the same bike again..
I used to have a 2022 GTS standard range for 6 months which I had to sell because of going overseas. Didn't have any problems with the batteries. True, it loses up to 2% of its charge per day when parked with the batteries in the scooter which will be way less with them removed from the scooter. Latter is adviced in the manual if not in use for a longer period. But this is used for maintaining the GPS and the ECU battery. ECU battery is just a very small rechargeable battery which can stand a lot. My bike was produced late 2021 and only started being used some 6 months later with a completely empty ECU battery. After being charged by the main batteries it worked perfectly fine. Thing is though you have to keep at least some charge in the main batteries because when they're at zero they die beyond repair. When not using the scooter for several months it might be necessary to charge them occasionally, via a smart plug when you're not around. When you're doing a lot of full throttle it might be better to choose the extended range 35Ah version.
Keep the batteries at 50% if not using the bike. That’s the advice. I keep my bike indoors, no GPS, so last winter I decided to disconnect the battery and the ECU went to 1% charged back up when I wanted to use the bike but the ECU never ever found the GPS signal again and it had to be replaced under warranty. Now I just charge up to around 60% and never let it drop below 30%
I am desperately looking for someone to advise me I have the same model in the video. The GPS has lost connection to charge ECU battery. It's been in all night still the app is not working. The ECU will not connect. How much to replace in London
My 2021 Lifan E3 electric scooter only cost me €2,600 and never missed a beat. 4,400 km up on it now. Also its has way more storage under he seat and comes with a back box as standard. It only has one battery. Top speed is only 50km/hr but that's OK as I only ever use it around the town and that is the speed limit around there anyway.
I used amalgamated tape on the HV cable from the under the foot plate. Still gives it flexibility but also protects from cutting/abrasive
Question: is it possible to disconnect the batteries by leaving them in the scooter? I think there are no space problems for the one under the seat, but what about the one in the front?
I tried that, but you cant close the cover with the cable unplugged. Need to either plug it in or take the battery out.
@@electrifyjapan5554 Too bad, it would have been convenient to keep the batteries charged during periods of non-use. Thanks for the reply
disconnect both batteries make sure they are charged 90 percent and now u can leave both batteries in the bike for about 3 to 4 months no problem as long as its not to cold like 25 to 30 degrees and as long as its not 100 degrees and highter now u got the true facts about how to maintain youre scooter
I regret reading some comments of dissapointment. I've got my Niu NQI gts sport (14"wheels- Niu batteries/standard range) for 2,5 years now, 10.000 km. It has never ever let me down, after using it extensively in all conditions. Never serviced it, nothing. The thing just goes on and on...smooth ride, never used the app. Interesting to know they returned to the Panasonic batteries for the long range version. Could be the better option...😉
So it's possible to use it without the app right? I don't need fuzz... Just need a ride for delivering pizza 7 days a week 100km per day.
@@shinosg-wiz4619did you buy ?
Not sure what type of batteries are used, but some battery chemistries don't like sitting for days on end at full charge - it reduces the overall life. My DJI drone automatically discharges it's batteries after 3 days if they are full. It's a built-in feature. I also store my model aircraft LiPo batteries at around 20% charge.
Thanks for awesome review! I have the Niu NGT 2020 version. It has 12949 km on the meter, I've been using it heavily! Mine has the original Panasonic batteries that NIU used to provide. 60V 35AH x2. And the charger came with the splitter to be able to charge both batteries at once. I live in Sweden, we have 230V power, but it takes about 5h to charge from empty to full. I feel NIU got cheap lately, they stopped using high quality Panasonic batteries and went for EVE instead. And stopped providing accessories. I'm gonna keep my NGT for long and see how much it can do! Hopefully NIU gets back on track.
As I mentioned, they did go back to Panasonic batteries since they are much better. More range and probably more stable. The cheaper Chinese ones really dont work for a bike like this.
Niu should upgrade the cells too.Lipo4 or gto which u can charge over 20000 cycles.Only the performance is not ready yet for bikes and cost lot of space.
You can deactivate the GPS and the ECU and it will help to reduce the battery drainage.
Ofcourse gps is a power hungry feature .And how u do that? Need diagnostic tool for?
@@dokesz530 in the app in the settings is a button to deactivate it.
u can its the white wire inside the battery now once u do that no more gps on the scooter and now u will have to install youre own gps if u like on the bike like under it air tags or the tile gps is what i will go with now no more problems even when the battery is drained to 0 percent which i dont recomend but now u are gucci you are welcome rember they did that so they can keep u as there customer 4 life and i dont like that u should be able to buy from who ever; but the real reason is after youre warranty is over they can send a virus to youre bike threw the gps these are chinos they play chess not checkers so be smart and disconnect from them you are welcome 23 yr s in this game i just gaVE A jem out u guys are welcome
NUI aftersales support is dire in the UK now.
This also happens to my NQI GTS 2020 model. So Sad. Do you think I can buy Panasonic Battery in JP and ship it here in Philippines? you think possible? My dealer here don't have Panasonics.
I looked at the Xeam web site and they do sell Panasonic batteries. They are quite expensive though. Almost the same price as the whole bike!
store.mssjapan.jp/fs/mssstore/XMNQi2-60111154
Also, these appear to be 2020 Panasonic batteries, not the newer 2023 batteries.
www.xeam.jp/niu/ngt/
I think its better to wait for the newer ones to appear for sale.
@@electrifyjapan5554 Thanks for replying! Really appreciate it. I'll check that link. I watched your videos it really is amazing to care on planet having those EV's. thank you!
I have M + sport. Biggest trouble is winter driving. It`s impossible on ice, due its 110 Nm torq. It have two speed setting, but lower is too weak to keep on while driving. Its rims are too expensive for studded tires. Its range is up to 70 kilometers with lower speed.
quick question. If you detach the battery when you keep the bike in storage or garage, then the battery will not drain over time right ?
The main battery will no longer drain, but the ECU battery will drain and die, which means you won't be able to access the bike remotely. I think that (12volt) battery is also lithium ion, so probably best not to let it drain to zero. Whenever I've removed the main batteries to charge them indoors, the 12v tends to drain pretty fast for some reason.
@@electrifyjapan5554 it drains because it’s constantly sending GPS information and it’s also connected by its inbuilt SMS for firmware updates to the bike
@@stumpusMaximus Thats what I figured. Its just a bit of a problem as it drains really fast.
@@electrifyjapan5554 the ecu battery will not die, I have mine 1 year without connecting the batteries and it is still alive... and there is not 12V battery in your scooter...only on EVO
@@jackjone12221 Thanks! I decided to take the main battery out and leave it out when Im not using the bike. That way it wont drain anymore.
Hello sir
Thank you for the vid!
Did the problem with the battery happened even on the start of the ride? Or just after some time of riding?
If it happened on the start of a ride in a cold day
It seems to me less likely that the battery got to hot
the range ll definitly increase when u can switch off the gps.I was trying to let the batteries leave in the bike almost a month and the gps suck more then 20 %.
Ciao!
Vorrei chiedere una domanda, Io ho trovato un scooter esattamente come questo modello non mai utilizzato da 2021 quindi è nuovo, ora vorrei sapere come riesco capire la saluta della batteria?
Ihave the same exact model ans i beleive i have the same problem with the batteries, they changed the old batterie for free, under warranty, but i dont know if i'll have the same problem again...do you have any update? thanks!
I'm still waiting for the Japanese dealer to get back to me about my battery. They haven't sent it back to me and I still have a loaner battery. I know this years bikes have a new Panasonic battery but they haven't offered to replace them. Niu wont do anything since they don't have an official dealer in Japan and cant look at my bike.
Thank you
Definitely the future but not good enough yet. Good for 10-20 km a day but for other heavy usage avoid this headache.
U r wrong
I think the battery problems is very general on 2 battery bikes.
Hello, i eant to charge the batteries using an AVR, WHat do you think should I get for AVR capacity?
Not sure what you mean by AVR?
Is there curciut break unit in it
I cant see anything like that just from using it normally. You probably need to remove the plastic tub that holds the battery under the seat to reach it.
Yeah
Yeah they have sort of breaker but not like a switch u can turn on or off. its connected next to the controller.u cant miss it follow the red wires.But i had also a niu lite but cant find any breaker.Power cut off via ignition key.
Tanks a lot! it helped me out!
buy gts pro with 2x 35 ah it has panasonic battery.the sport have cheaper ones.i have a gts from 2020 with 14 inch rims.
how do u have 124 inch rims
I have the MQI-GT 45
does it worth to buy
Yes if it's cheap. No if it's expensive.
Do you need a motorcycle driver's license
Depends where you live! In Japan you would need a license for this since its classed as 125cc.
I'm in the US and it's called a Auto Cycle/ Motor Scooter license. It's basicly the same as a motorcycle license which covers both.
yeah u need a license but its weird because when u use only one battery u only go 50 so then its a moped again.everything it goes faster as 50 it belongs to 125.crazy laws need asap to change this.performance of 125 is almost same as moped.
Just app connectivity drains the battery 80% in two weeks? Nah. Something else must be going on...
Its the only EV ive seen with that kind of drain. Only solution is to take out the main battery and just let the smaller ECU battery die. Hopefully this is something they will fix in the long term. Or possibly with an update.
why is the battery so damm expensive .....its the price of the scotter .....this is rediculous..in canada it sells for 2199.00 canadian ...over here the damm battery sells for 1550.00....that means once the battery is fried you need to scrap the scotter and get a new one...what a rip off ...you can keep your junk thx
yup just happened to me, battery died, insurance company luckily covering it by paying me 2000$ for the bike, so I loose the bike and battery but get 2k. Won´t get the same bike again..