Sire Denathrius - Castle Nathria - Shadowlands Beta - FATBOSS

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  • Опубліковано 21 жов 2024

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  • @FatbossTV
    @FatbossTV  3 роки тому

    Click here for an updated live guide for this fight: ua-cam.com/video/gLdGXXbVOhQ/v-deo.html

    • @jaxxonjohnathan1131
      @jaxxonjohnathan1131 3 роки тому

      Sorry to be off topic but does someone know of a tool to log back into an Instagram account?
      I stupidly forgot my login password. I would appreciate any help you can offer me!

    • @claystefan3409
      @claystefan3409 3 роки тому

      @Jaxxon Johnathan instablaster =)

    • @jaxxonjohnathan1131
      @jaxxonjohnathan1131 3 роки тому

      @Clay Stefan I really appreciate your reply. I got to the site through google and Im trying it out atm.
      Seems to take quite some time so I will reply here later with my results.

    • @jaxxonjohnathan1131
      @jaxxonjohnathan1131 3 роки тому

      @Clay Stefan it worked and I actually got access to my account again. I'm so happy!
      Thank you so much, you really help me out :D

    • @claystefan3409
      @claystefan3409 3 роки тому

      @Jaxxon Johnathan you are welcome =)

  • @Fillster
    @Fillster 3 роки тому +180

    I actually felt like i followed along much better when watching that visualization you made for the third phase. I don't know how time consuming they are to make but I would honestly really like if you made those more often

    • @MrVeteran01
      @MrVeteran01 3 роки тому +10

      I agree. Feels alot easier to understand then seeing loads of players running around with loads of shit on the screen.

    • @matthieudirand9492
      @matthieudirand9492 3 роки тому +2

      There is someone that did this for the whole fights : castle-nathria-gifs.vercel.app/
      You can follow the videos here and check the placements on the animations!

    • @Fillster
      @Fillster 3 роки тому +2

      @@matthieudirand9492 That’s actually a cool link

    • @Anubarak313
      @Anubarak313 3 роки тому +2

      i prefer both. the map view is nice to get a clear idea on strats but seeing the fight itself is very helpful to know what all the abilities look like coming at you.

    • @harryburnett2915
      @harryburnett2915 3 роки тому

      This, 100% this.

  • @vteccomplex
    @vteccomplex 4 роки тому +110

    Haven't played WoW in years, but I still enjoy watching these.

    • @MrBonoso
      @MrBonoso 4 роки тому +1

      Same

    • @EdwardAlchemist343
      @EdwardAlchemist343 4 роки тому +2

      I don't even raid and still come back from time to time to watch these videos. Maybe it's their voices

    • @ruiluo5202
      @ruiluo5202 4 роки тому

      click me you may find whai you like Wooooow

    • @MaitreHezz
      @MaitreHezz 4 роки тому +4

      Time to come back, newxpac :p

    • @rdogg114
      @rdogg114 4 роки тому

      yeah same

  • @thejameslock1
    @thejameslock1 4 роки тому +5

    Great breakdown, I really love how you did the breakdown of phase 3. Something to consider moving forward, as this to add to your video moving forward

  • @Xylexis95
    @Xylexis95 4 роки тому +63

    "In the description you'll find a google doc for those who like min maxing"
    >No google doc

    • @maskelive
      @maskelive 4 роки тому +3

      None likes min-maxing (?)

  • @MegaVbnz
    @MegaVbnz 4 роки тому +19

    Can't wait for laps around Oribos!

  • @Orgrimmar21
    @Orgrimmar21 3 роки тому +1

    I think how you explained phase 3 with only icons was way better than an actual footage of the fight.
    It really helps to understand positioning for everyone not only your spec.
    If you coud do an explanation of the fights with this kind of editing it would be awesome!

  • @matthewpeluso6505
    @matthewpeluso6505 4 роки тому +100

    This is already a better last boss than nyalotha. I’m excited.

    • @dafreshest420
      @dafreshest420 4 роки тому +6

      I somewhat enjoyed mythic nzoth the fight is fun once you learn it but this does look pretty cool XD

    • @matthewpeluso6505
      @matthewpeluso6505 4 роки тому +13

      @@dafreshest420 Visually the fight looks fast pace and may be fun to play. N'zoth looked cool to watch but god damn It got old fast. I don't know if my opinion is a good one to be honest lol

    • @quandaviousgooch2826
      @quandaviousgooch2826 3 роки тому

      @@matthewpeluso6505 yea lol I played it a couple times and liked it, but then just hated it ever since

    • @murahk123
      @murahk123 3 роки тому +1

      Sounds really similar in concept to N’Zoth with reducing map size.

  • @Ash-qd2ke
    @Ash-qd2ke 4 роки тому +15

    Denathrius’s animation is insane

  • @zachhood7625
    @zachhood7625 4 роки тому +7

    The big ass sword flying around is so cool!

  • @trunightmare87
    @trunightmare87 4 роки тому +2

    The lads are back good to hear you guys again

  • @pandorawolf8239
    @pandorawolf8239 3 роки тому +1

    This fight is gonna be amazing and fun to progress on.

  • @Kalrell
    @Kalrell 4 роки тому +65

    4:05 Deathknights are so slow everyone thinks our Baseline Death's Advance must be a Talent. 😭

    • @greindes1579
      @greindes1579 4 роки тому +15

      Well it was for a long time

    • @Ackie0Adash
      @Ackie0Adash 4 роки тому +3

      It must be a talent DKs never take because I have never seen a fast DK... oh wait

    • @youssefel-hawari956
      @youssefel-hawari956 4 роки тому +4

      @@Ackie0Adash Never forget aggramars stride with full haste stack and sephuz in legion :(

    • @sholtoz799
      @sholtoz799 3 роки тому

      @@Ackie0Adash the talent version of death advance is wraith walk

    • @Ackie0Adash
      @Ackie0Adash 3 роки тому +2

      @@sholtoz799 It is not, WW is a talent but Deat's Advance is baseline, you have both of them when you take WW. My comment was meant to be a joke, I main DK (thought it would be obvious)

  • @danmadden4517
    @danmadden4517 4 роки тому +1

    You can also use Demonic Gateway during the March of the Penitent mechanic @ 3:40

  • @wiljosabre
    @wiljosabre 3 роки тому +1

    This Boss fight looks amazing. Can't wait to wipe on it

  • @kyleganse4978
    @kyleganse4978 4 роки тому

    Wow I must say this raid boss looks really incredible

  • @solaris736
    @solaris736 4 роки тому +5

    Damn this fight looks complicated, itll be easier once we get used to it though, so that's nice, entire raid looks so fun, this fight seems to favor melees a little more, pretty nice

  • @vasiliysmirnov3922
    @vasiliysmirnov3922 3 роки тому

    What about racial (void elf) ability during semiphase? is it still working?

  • @SkippyqtWoW
    @SkippyqtWoW 4 роки тому

    Question for mythic prog etc so let’s say I play dh can I jump off edge for the boss charging you and leaving a pull then jump back or will that not work

  • @alterzus
    @alterzus 4 роки тому +1

    Can you use new version of free action pot or speed pot before phase and gain benefit over the slow to get to center?

  • @drallagon
    @drallagon 4 роки тому +17

    "The Burden of Sindy" buff lol

  • @nandomoraes6158
    @nandomoraes6158 4 роки тому +1

    Dammit bro!!! Great job, love this fight guide.

  • @Tmv3v
    @Tmv3v 3 роки тому

    Anyone knows what's the ui for friendly nameplates at 4:55? I thought friendly nameplates ui doesn't work in raids.

  • @Bluekatana87
    @Bluekatana87 4 роки тому +1

    Can you hit Denathrius' sword with the 50% debuff and focus that? Might be a way to get out of phase 2 faster.

  • @CorekBleedingHollow
    @CorekBleedingHollow 4 роки тому +5

    Wow this first raid is huge. Like 11 or 12 bosses.

  • @Kaypers
    @Kaypers 4 роки тому +12

    So some random vampire bad guy in the new expansion gets way more mechanics, stages, and animations than NZOTH??
    You gotta wonder what blizzard does with their development time honestly

  • @Dantuwin
    @Dantuwin 3 роки тому

    Hey fatboss.tv! Thanks for all the hard work and all you've done so far for the community.
    But, maybe I am blind or dumb or both, but I can not find the Google doc you mentioned, in the description. Can you help me out here please?

  • @MrTyphus18
    @MrTyphus18 4 роки тому +1

    great to see you doing guides again! can someone link the google docs pls ?

  • @songo2968
    @songo2968 4 роки тому +1

    Are you gonna do this guide for every boss before 27 October ? You are doing a insanly good job, keep going

    • @MrJonboy
      @MrJonboy 4 роки тому

      they usually do

  • @Psychodorf
    @Psychodorf 4 роки тому +5

    I am so lost, this is something else than last time I raided 🤣

  • @ronholmesuk825
    @ronholmesuk825 4 роки тому +2

    Welcome back Dudes :)

  • @Kikosempai
    @Kikosempai 4 роки тому +1

    I wonder, does the Goblin racial that propels you forwards get you on the platforms with adds in phase two?

    • @OakenTome
      @OakenTome 3 роки тому

      It really doesn’t look like it.

  • @GuzanGames
    @GuzanGames 4 роки тому +1

    the graphics and fight is pretty cool... the only thing i am worried about is what is blizzards intentions when it comes to raiding going forward as fatboss says, it could be a case of picking and choosing specs, classes, cov's which are more useful.

    • @MintyCoffee
      @MintyCoffee 3 роки тому

      You mean... META?! That's ALWAYS going to be a thing.

  • @ReadyCheckPull
    @ReadyCheckPull 4 роки тому +1

    Wooo. Animations. Hell yeah!

  • @Morduk385
    @Morduk385 3 роки тому +3

    Damn, after wotlk boss fights went a long way

  • @ChaosMan
    @ChaosMan 4 роки тому +5

    Don't want to sound like a hater, just why does it need to be easier just so people can pug it on heroic? Why do raids are only allowed to be difficult on mythic?

    • @jessekoch3480
      @jessekoch3480 4 роки тому +1

      To keep you logged in and renew your sub.

    • @Loviekinz
      @Loviekinz 4 роки тому +1

      I haven't been pugging much since Legion where fights have become not pug friendly... this has made me not raid on alts, which has meant I play a LOT LESS then I used to. Alts are pointless to me since I don't raid on them, so I usually just login on Fri/Sat to raid with a group and don't bother logging in much the rest of the week.

    • @TaylerJDust
      @TaylerJDust 4 роки тому

      It's not so much whether it should be difficult or not, it's more about not making things like disc required

    • @Aerensianic
      @Aerensianic 4 роки тому

      I think this difficulty is fine on a final boss but the kind of difficulty he is talking about is not is potentially not a pug friendly kind of complexity and its not good if the fail rate for heroic pugs is too high. I think they really want Heroic to be reasonable for pugs to clear and mythic to be the "need a dedicated group" to clear (at least a few bosses in since Pugs can generally clear the 1st few mythic bosses).

    • @OrcinusDrake
      @OrcinusDrake 4 роки тому +1

      It's not so much difficult, as it is a hassle. If it were tuned so that every time you reach this boss on heroic you have to set up a spreadsheet/note/raidwarning macro to assign every single player to their own set of soaks that would be incredibly annoying. Oh 5 people just left, let me refill and then assign the replacements to those same soaks, oh but that was a dk so we need to add another to a group... which should probably be a more tanky group as they have more people than the other groups so lets reshuffle everyone around to make room.
      It's not a hard mechanic, but it'd be an annoying one if it were tightly tuned

  • @KaotIcLiQuid
    @KaotIcLiQuid 3 роки тому

    this is hella extra but at 6:31 what nameplates is he using

  • @Lethal_Intent
    @Lethal_Intent 4 роки тому +12

    Movement... "sighs in ret paladin."

    • @cimel22
      @cimel22 4 роки тому +1

      Better save those horsey charges!

    • @aeggeska1
      @aeggeska1 4 роки тому

      Just use cavalier and lights barding dude.

    • @MintyCoffee
      @MintyCoffee 3 роки тому

      You have 2 divine steeds you'll be fine.

  • @Preaplanes
    @Preaplanes 3 роки тому

    Couldn't you just double-shimmer, blood-teleport, or spiritshape blink to get to the center as well?

    • @XxYannis
      @XxYannis 3 роки тому

      Pretty sure they mentioned that you're silenced until you reach the center, hence precasted spirit form etc works

  • @HoschiOG
    @HoschiOG 4 роки тому

    can u hit the sword in P2 with boss cleave?

  • @Zuuljin
    @Zuuljin 3 роки тому

    Where is the google doc link at tho?

  • @123antiker123
    @123antiker123 4 роки тому +10

    you show this to a new player and hes is like dafuq man is happening

    • @MintyCoffee
      @MintyCoffee 3 роки тому

      @Joe Alexander A new player may want to raid.

  • @theoneandonlycarlo
    @theoneandonlycarlo 3 роки тому +1

    does druid casterform wild charge also work for the slow debuff?

    • @tomnar3054
      @tomnar3054 3 роки тому

      you are silenced while slowed, so no

  • @matthewmorey1329
    @matthewmorey1329 4 роки тому

    anyone have a link to the google doc they mentioned in the video?

  • @jazzandfunkequalsjunk179
    @jazzandfunkequalsjunk179 4 роки тому +1

    This fight is basically...
    The Floor is Bloody

  • @TheCeekon
    @TheCeekon 4 роки тому +8

    I hope his sword Is something that can drop. that'd be cool.

    • @richardjones8846
      @richardjones8846 4 роки тому +1

      it is

    • @TheCeekon
      @TheCeekon 4 роки тому

      @@richardjones8846 I'm on the PTR and looking through it, doesn't show it in either his journal or in the Appearance journal. is it like Xavius' shoulders where it doesn't show up there?

    • @Zakjuh
      @Zakjuh 3 роки тому +2

      @@TheCeekon it's a battle pet, sadly : S

  • @agreeable8255
    @agreeable8255 3 роки тому

    would warlocks "curse of toungs" effect the boss if so it will help for the floor break

  • @ff_user
    @ff_user 3 роки тому +1

    I have no idea what's going on.

  • @dirtymike2217
    @dirtymike2217 4 роки тому

    Where is this google doc?

  • @NikolasHonnef
    @NikolasHonnef 4 роки тому +14

    Nice video, but I have to strongly disagree with the idea that heroic should be tuned for PUGs. Heroic is for guilds that don't go into mythic for whatever reason, good PUGs being able to do it as well is a bonus and not a goal imo.

    • @itskhro
      @itskhro 4 роки тому +3

      PUGs can kill heroic as well... Just not the first few weeks. Which is fine.

    • @CartoreAOS
      @CartoreAOS 4 роки тому +1

      Heroic is not really a hard difficulty. Its pretty close to what the raid should be. Normal is for people who want to try raiding and learn the game. LFR is for children to complain at each other for 3 hours while 5 people do all the work.

    • @NikolasHonnef
      @NikolasHonnef 4 роки тому +3

      Difficulty is one thing, but the main difference when tuning something for random groups is coordination. Making heroics PUG friendly basically means removing everything that would require groups to plan ahead or communicate on voice during the encounter, and that would make fights really boring for guilds.

    • @ArthurHill88
      @ArthurHill88 4 роки тому

      Honestly there are just too many raid difficulties in wow at this point which leads to all sorts of wonky gear progression and undermines the sense of progress and community that comes along with actually clearing the instance for the first time with a guild, plus it must be a nightmare for the encounter balance team. Ideally we should return to the WoTLK system with two difficulties: Normal and Herioc (with maybe some glory of the raider hard-mode achievements or additional herioc only bosses to supplement). Normal should accommodate flexible raid sizes and be tuned so that your average casual endgame guild can make meaningful progress completing it over several weeks/a month and semi-competent PuG groups should be able to start seriously moving through it after a month or so of its release (you could maybe even add an LFR option set on normal difficulty at this point). Heroic should be balanced around a fixed raid size (20 is fine imo) and be a serious challenge for dedicated raiders the way mythic is now. The current problems raiding is having stemmed from Cata where the 'normal' raid difficulty was slightly overtuned and so raiding was inaccessible for players that couldn't join a fairly dedicated raiding guild for one reason or another (unlike in Wrath where if you were on a decent server you would have no problem seeing most of the raiding content in 10 man or PuG groups a little while after release). But instead of fixing this problem through tuning normal they added the moronic LFR mode which seriously undercut the feeling of server/guild community and progression that is what made raiding so fun in the first place. I'm all for people getting to see the endgame story, but you should, ya know, have to play the game and form real connections with people the way things were intended, not simply queue up with a bunch of randoms and afk through with youtube on your second screen.

    • @Philipp-ym4pc
      @Philipp-ym4pc 4 роки тому

      @IHS Actually you got it wrong you filthy casual, Mythic is embarrassingly easy I wish Blizzard would add another difficulty that would actually require the players to use their brain cells for something other than breathing. /s

  • @ruiluo5202
    @ruiluo5202 4 роки тому +1

    really good preview ! like !hope I could do so

  • @jumpskilllz1784
    @jumpskilllz1784 4 роки тому

    Looks exciting 🤙

  • @igor2976
    @igor2976 4 роки тому

    where's the google doc link?

  • @user-fd2zq2cq6e
    @user-fd2zq2cq6e 4 роки тому +1

    wow this looks hard *i bet momentum demon hunters are not happy rn*

  • @Bigmbrennan
    @Bigmbrennan 3 роки тому

    mage alter time in center before knock back to warp back instantly ?

  • @ticesine6589
    @ticesine6589 3 роки тому

    When does this unlock ?

  • @bansh84
    @bansh84 4 роки тому +11

    what a mess this would be in the LFR :D

    • @mario12359
      @mario12359 4 роки тому

      Bliz will likely make some mechanics irrelevant and we said that last time. LOL

    • @Mictla155
      @Mictla155 4 роки тому

      @@mario12359 N'zoth 2.0.

    • @mrxxbrian
      @mrxxbrian 3 роки тому

      @@mario12359 Like when there was no Host in the Desolate Host fight for LFR

    • @OakenTome
      @OakenTome 3 роки тому

      @@mario12359 Isn’t LFR lacking certain mechanics been a staple of it since like forever?

  • @richardjones8846
    @richardjones8846 4 роки тому +14

    "certain classes"
    warlocks.

  • @Markus-zb5zd
    @Markus-zb5zd 3 роки тому

    gnomes OP for the slow?

  • @Fiercehowler
    @Fiercehowler 4 роки тому +2

    looks very difficult

  • @Infernoblade1010
    @Infernoblade1010 4 роки тому +1

    I like the direction they're going with these. The mechanics are a bit more technical, nit they're actually interesting and fun not boring and annoying.

  • @Frstypwngaming
    @Frstypwngaming 4 роки тому

    They don't want top end guilds feeding gear into specific toons (Most likely locks)

  • @jlo1195
    @jlo1195 4 роки тому

    gotta love Cloak of Shadows for rogues....cheeses at least one mechanics in ever fight

  • @Ushasty_Yozh_Egipetski
    @Ushasty_Yozh_Egipetski 3 роки тому +2

    7:30 The chat.

  • @HassanRaza-7196
    @HassanRaza-7196 4 роки тому

    I LOVE TO SEE MORE VIDEOS. I LOVE FATBOSS

  • @leandrowngo
    @leandrowngo 4 роки тому +6

    This is the one fight where DKs can cheese a mobility mechanic.

    • @Saltantia
      @Saltantia 4 роки тому

      The one and only, I guess xDDD But well, when you look at Circle of Shivarra, you could cheese the frozen-debuff with Ghostwalk aswell.

  • @putnik1995
    @putnik1995 4 роки тому +1

    Im into soaking lines,ill do it

  • @Lufee93
    @Lufee93 4 роки тому

    no google doc :(

  • @Brett1692
    @Brett1692 4 роки тому

    Why are there still only 2 boss vids? I want all of them already, how else will i AOTC week 1 of raiding?!?!?!

    • @TheInsaneVU
      @TheInsaneVU 4 роки тому

      Calm down buddy, the raid only comes out in 3 months. By then you will have all your vids.

    • @Brett1692
      @Brett1692 4 роки тому

      @@TheInsaneVU .../sigh i guess im just not funny anymore

  • @adamweiss4920
    @adamweiss4920 4 роки тому

    mby hard to get out of phase 1 with 7 healers

  • @koheletcalaforexclan6508
    @koheletcalaforexclan6508 4 роки тому

    I noticed that in mythic raids and dungs, you get better gear from dungs, but as to be expected from Beta/Ptr (I have Ptr), not everything is balanced

  • @Unown_B
    @Unown_B 4 роки тому +12

    bahahaha imagine this fight in LFR

  • @Gustavo-wx6vr
    @Gustavo-wx6vr 4 роки тому

    "March of the peni"
    WTF
    "march of the penitent"
    oh ok

  • @cainabel6356
    @cainabel6356 3 роки тому

    Didn't Blizzard use to have at least one raid running when the expansion came out? I remember they use to do it that way.

    • @Whoosh355
      @Whoosh355 3 роки тому +1

      They haven't done that for several expansions. Since about MoP they have preferred to have more content at launch focusing on quests and resource build up. Also having a raid available immediately at launch kinda creates a toxic environment for competition and also the economy in game

  • @Nimoot
    @Nimoot 3 роки тому

    Priests don't Life Grip ... They Leap of Faith.
    Don't confuse new players by using Slang >_>.

  • @bjornandurson
    @bjornandurson 4 роки тому

    Stack Shamans and DKs. New meta.

  • @CartoreAOS
    @CartoreAOS 4 роки тому +2

    Give us more streams dads!

  • @Avanah123
    @Avanah123 4 роки тому +1

    Its looks awesome! A way better than nzoth! I cant wait to tank him as my bm monk

  • @Kaykonio
    @Kaykonio 4 роки тому

    This fight look so good

  • @kn0bhe4d
    @kn0bhe4d 4 роки тому

    13:15 Actually, that's EXACTLY what Blizzard intends. They've openly said multiple times that they want some fights to feel better for some covenants. So "forcing" a Venthyr choice on this fight is by design. They've lost their fucking minds, and have this idiotic mentality that they know best, and everyone else is wrong.

  • @BKHwang
    @BKHwang 3 роки тому

    13:25 in chat
    [Xontic-TheMaw]: where is echo josh
    XD

  • @cooldav222
    @cooldav222 4 роки тому

    where are the mythic ny'alotha guides

  • @Frenchfraeis
    @Frenchfraeis 3 роки тому

    I keep wonder what this "Cindy buff" is supposed to be

  • @_ketosucks1355
    @_ketosucks1355 3 роки тому

    Really? This badass character is defeated on the first raid ..... WTF....

    • @Sk1tz092
      @Sk1tz092 3 роки тому

      Where does it say that? Sire Denathrius is the last boss from Castle Nathria raid, there are 10 boss in total. last boss won't be available untill February 2-3

  • @borninvincible8898
    @borninvincible8898 4 роки тому

    Nice and complicated fight ... similar to Blackhand boss 😅😎

  • @phinix473
    @phinix473 4 роки тому

    just so you guys in fatboss knows, there is some site using your name for rmt, fatboss.tv/eu/?
    edit: guess you already knew, lol my bad.

  • @Silentmobius6669
    @Silentmobius6669 4 роки тому

    Wait so the tanks have to taunt off each other on x stacks? o.O WHAT A TOTALLY UNIQUE MECHANIC THATS NOT PLAYED OUT AND FUCKING BORING!!!!!

  • @spoke1183
    @spoke1183 3 роки тому

    lol LFR will be way harder then mythic

  • @SoulReaver95
    @SoulReaver95 4 роки тому

    FatA$$TV GACHIBA$$

  • @EzPz1337
    @EzPz1337 4 роки тому +1

    Cindy Buff? Who is she? is she hot? ;)

  • @dacbiet
    @dacbiet 4 роки тому

    People datamined that Garrosh will appear in the mythic phase.

  • @gametenor
    @gametenor 4 роки тому

    All these mechanocs and this is only heroic 🤣

    • @MintyCoffee
      @MintyCoffee 3 роки тому

      You say "Only" heroic as if most people will push mythic lol

  • @maronax1212
    @maronax1212 4 роки тому +1

    BARRAGE!!!!

  • @koloblicin7
    @koloblicin7 4 роки тому

    prefreedom

  • @Delsauro
    @Delsauro 4 роки тому

    Make it new Blackhand on mythic or harder! I hate easy bosses for noobs!

  • @hibiscus779
    @hibiscus779 4 роки тому

    I wish the game would transition to much easier/fiewer mechanics but you would not know what they are. Totally random. I mean, if you wipe, you are technically dead so you would not know what happened

    • @sneaksies8931
      @sneaksies8931 4 роки тому

      this is such a bad idea for people that actually raid at high levels its funny

    • @hibiscus779
      @hibiscus779 4 роки тому

      @@sneaksies8931 It would require an entirely different skillset. Adaptability and recognition of what is happening versus learning a fight they should have no business knowing (since they died the last time they were in the dungeon). It would make comparing raider performance impossible, and world first titles would become irrelevant, but it would be fun.

    • @sneaksies8931
      @sneaksies8931 4 роки тому

      @@hibiscus779 well if they died last time in the dungeon, according to your views, they shouldnt be able to do it again right? if you die your character should be permanently deleted. why not go all in. i agree it would be really fun to not know the fight but it would not go well for people that do this stuff for a living or are very competitive about it

    • @hibiscus779
      @hibiscus779 4 роки тому

      @@sneaksies8931 I wouldn't want it for all dungeons - but a couple like that would be fun. And yeah, permadeath should be a thing for some optional content, should be able to opt in on it (maybe for some exceptional mounts or some such).

    • @sneaksies8931
      @sneaksies8931 4 роки тому

      @@hibiscus779 good idea

  • @IShallCallHimTaders
    @IShallCallHimTaders 4 роки тому

    Don't you love a game where the strategy for a boss is out even before the Pre patch to the expansion is out? Completely nullifying the mystery of the game for instant gratification.
    Blegh.

    • @khaeli_
      @khaeli_ 4 роки тому

      Then why did you watch this?

    • @IShallCallHimTaders
      @IShallCallHimTaders 4 роки тому

      @@khaeli_ was suggested to me for some reason.

    • @khaeli_
      @khaeli_ 4 роки тому +1

      Craig With a Wig doesn’t mean u have to watch it 🤣🤣

    • @OakenTome
      @OakenTome 3 роки тому

      Going into a boss fight blind is begging for the game to bend you over, and there can still be a sense of mystery as you try to figure out how to get your group to make it to the end.
      This isn’t vanilla where 25 people are genuinely struggling to handle 3 mechanics in a single fight.
      Also, raid testing is a thing. It kind of has to be, because internal play testing and feedback can only go so far, even when it’s a company as large as Blizzard.

    • @kuzuthunder1964
      @kuzuthunder1964 3 роки тому

      @@OakenTome People would still struggle with 3 mechanics if there weren’t guides everywhere and addons that basically plays the game for you.

  • @Hinastorm86
    @Hinastorm86 4 роки тому

    Uhg. Who is asking for these overcomplicated fights with 20 different mechanics? Christ.
    Bliz needs to cut this crap out.

    • @philsummerfield206
      @philsummerfield206 4 роки тому

      It’s people like you that maybe need to stick to dungeons. Don’t ruin raids for people, having shit handed to you.

    • @Xanten7
      @Xanten7 3 роки тому

      Worst take I’ve ever heard.

    • @kuzuthunder1964
      @kuzuthunder1964 3 роки тому

      Just do lfr’s

  • @Necrostrike
    @Necrostrike 4 роки тому +3

    How sad is it that BfA gear is still being used for an endgame raid of another xpac? It speaks volume of the ilv scaling and how garbage the preset gear is if it's being replaced by gear from a prior expansion.

    • @greindes1579
      @greindes1579 4 роки тому +27

      That's the dumbest complain that I ever heard

    • @godsilla94
      @godsilla94 4 роки тому +5

      At the time of testing there was no gear that you could buy. Since the wipe only happened recently, a lot of characters were not up to snuff. Some had to play without covenants etc. Gear barely matters with the scaling Blizz uses

    • @malletin
      @malletin 4 роки тому +3

      How is it that you didn't stop for half a second to consider that many of the characters weren't even max level yet and simply were upscaled for testing purposes, in fact the whole testing was kinda busted since many players didn't even have covenant abilities.
      There is nothing here that even suggests, that what you are saying will be the case once Shadowlands is out.

    • @Amandor2011
      @Amandor2011 4 роки тому +12

      You've won the award of the dumbest complaint ever
      It's freacking beta, they don't have soulbinds and legendaries, characters were recently wiped, there are even no exact loot tables yet
      And didn't things likeThunderfury appear in Black temple? How about that?
      I hope you are trolling or you're just dumb

    • @CartoreAOS
      @CartoreAOS 4 роки тому +2

      You are aware they scaled characters up to max level so people can test right? These are characters copied onto the beta server that went straight into the raid.

  • @shakeweller
    @shakeweller 4 роки тому

    Why are they bringing back same same mechanichs over and over... Where are new mechanics? I'm tired of doing the same shit again. Soaking, stacking spreading I don't want to see anymore. They should make completly new mechanics for each boss fight. Not bring back mechanics all the time and mix then in random orders and call it a "new boss". Good i don't play this trash game anymore

    • @Avanah123
      @Avanah123 4 роки тому +2

      Why u are here then if u dont even play😀

    • @Schilani
      @Schilani 4 роки тому +1

      "Why are they making the same quests for all of the games? Kill X enemies. Fetch Y Items. It's all the same!"

    • @nirolf12
      @nirolf12 4 роки тому +1

      By all means, give Blizz a list of new mechanics that make sense and can be implemented in raid bosses

    • @OakenTome
      @OakenTome 3 роки тому

      You only mention those mechanics because those are some of the very few that can be used in essentially any fight, while you ignore the number of unique mechanics that each boss has.

    • @MintyCoffee
      @MintyCoffee 3 роки тому

      Someone clearly hasn't seen the Artificier and Sludgefist fights.