Exploring Dorian on Guitar Meaningfully

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  • Опубліковано 7 чер 2024
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    Modes are a complete mystery to some, and seen as a waste of time to others.
    But by understanding modal harmony, you'll tap into some beautiful harmonies that exist in countless songs and you'll find it much easier to improvise/write meaningful solos.
    Dorian is the 2nd mode of the major scale, but like any other scale, it has its own unique "flavour" and an associated chord type (minor chords).
    Not many musicians realize that Dorian is one of the most versatile minor scales (along with minor pentatonic). It's easy to make it sound good - you'll have a lot of fun playing it.
    But what exactly makes it unique?
    This lesson shows you some ways in which you can use Dorian in your music and examples of common Dorian based progressions so you'll know instantly when Dorian can be used.
    By getting to know Dorian harmony, you'll recognise whenever it occurs in songs you hear and learn (and that's a lot of songs!), or when jamming with friends.
    These movements are more common than you think - be ready for them!
    Get backing tracks and tabs on the lesson page...
    www.fretjam.com/dorian-mode-g...

КОМЕНТАРІ • 294

  • @adchar2000
    @adchar2000 4 роки тому +122

    "It's the backing music that allows us to bring out a mode's unique flavour in other words without any musical reference there is no tonal centre" I had to get through 537 videos of blokes in beanies and/or glasses trying to show off to actually get to this very simple explanation. THANK YOU for this sentence!!

    • @Robfnord
      @Robfnord 3 роки тому +1

      Should have learnt bass first XD

    • @chicolopez8722
      @chicolopez8722 3 роки тому +2

      exactly!

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      @alexisdante1061 2 роки тому

      @Ruben Vivaan Instablaster :)

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  • @bazitube390
    @bazitube390 8 років тому +73

    I wanna cry

  • @mcren6781
    @mcren6781 7 років тому +96

    This video is brilliant. Excellent use of examples man. You made it really easy to soak all this up.

    • @kurtbarlow5676
      @kurtbarlow5676 6 років тому +4

      There's always one idiot on every page. No matter what you say, they have to be an idiot. Mc Ren, ignore this 2 year old. Justin is just waiting on the day he hits puberty.

  • @minkahl1644
    @minkahl1644 4 роки тому +1

    Fantastic. This is the clearest and most thought through presentation and explanation of the Dorian on UA-cam.

  • @mccloysong
    @mccloysong 5 років тому +45

    Finally the 7 modes explained simply: One scale, 7 different starting notes. Thank you for that.

    • @BellsCuriosityShop
      @BellsCuriosityShop 3 роки тому +4

      These days people learn CAGED for different positions to play major or natural minor scale. In my day I learned the modes - different positions to play major or natural minor scales.

    • @matthewcantu3127
      @matthewcantu3127 3 роки тому

      @@BellsCuriosityShop which is better

    • @BellsCuriosityShop
      @BellsCuriosityShop 3 роки тому +1

      @@matthewcantu3127 CAGED possibly as the scale shapes are built around the chord shapes, but if you can't picture where each chord is on the neck for each song you're playing it's probably useless. I found the mode shapes handy, but most of my music all sounds the same as I use the same three shapes all the time (Ionian, Dorian and Phrygian)

  • @tonytone1291
    @tonytone1291 4 роки тому +1

    Of all the lesson pages you by far are the best thank you, I’ve learned more this past month when I found your page than I have in a year.

  • @antonyirvine9338
    @antonyirvine9338 7 років тому

    The best tutorial series for me. Lots of jam tracks and I love the way you are encouraged
    to explore on your own

  • @sjdanthem
    @sjdanthem 3 роки тому +5

    To me, this is the most understandable lesson series by far. There's something about the theory mixed with practical tips (like the I ii V in this one) that help me immensely.

  • @zazoomatt
    @zazoomatt 7 років тому +11

    invaluable.Period. I am crying I have this knowledge as a guitarist of 60 years old playing only 5 years.

  • @shotsi673
    @shotsi673 3 роки тому +5

    Great explanation! Really like your style of teaching. Well done!

  • @mynmyself
    @mynmyself 5 років тому +2

    This is hands down the best explanation of modes I have seen!

  • @dalezjc
    @dalezjc 3 роки тому

    Thank you for such an excellent lesson/video!! And your lesson page is invaluable as well. Awesome job!

  • @tsangkintat2007
    @tsangkintat2007 8 років тому +1

    SO HELPFUL! Easy to understand, thx for uploading!

  • @sdrake3459
    @sdrake3459 7 років тому +13

    Some additional examples of Dorian mode are "Black Magic Woman" by Carlos Santana (Santana loved using Dorian mode) and "So What" by Miles Davis from the album Kind of Blue. Kind of Blue is a masters thesis on the use of the modes.

  • @pronginator
    @pronginator 7 років тому +3

    dude--thank you for your channel...this is EXACTLY how my brain works. You are my perfect teacher.!

  • @phil1065
    @phil1065 10 років тому +2

    finally, something that makes musical sense of these modes. thank you!!

  • @RD-wg2nt
    @RD-wg2nt 5 років тому

    All your videos are fab. So easy to understand and follow 👍👍

  • @jamesrobinson529
    @jamesrobinson529 10 років тому

    What an awesome tutorial! I always thought of Dorian as a ii - V7. That use of Dorian from C to Fm really opened my eyes & ears to new possibilities.

  • @EclecticEssentric
    @EclecticEssentric 4 роки тому

    Great stuff, thanks. You make stuff I know ever clearer.

  • @zshathickhaque
    @zshathickhaque 6 років тому +1

    you made my morning coffee with this caffeine .... thanks

  • @alejoarguello8963
    @alejoarguello8963 4 роки тому +1

    Dude, this is the video I needed since a couple of years...

  • @MegaYoyo911
    @MegaYoyo911 3 роки тому

    I've known how modes have worked for a long time now, but have never really known how to implement them meaningfully into my music. Now I can because of this video! Thank you for this

  • @BigEdWo
    @BigEdWo 10 років тому +2

    very good lesson. covers everything you could struggle with.

  • @christiankuilan6991
    @christiankuilan6991 2 роки тому

    Wow this was a really helpful video on the Dorian mode or modes period, thank you very much for taking time to make this video

    • @fretjamdotcom
      @fretjamdotcom  2 роки тому

      Thank you so much for your time Christian. This is an old video and I admit I could do it a lot better now. So I'm glad it could still offer value!

  • @emmegi7796
    @emmegi7796 6 років тому

    Great job!
    I wish I've listened to your explanation before!
    Very simple and exhaustive!
    Marco

  • @joshuaoneill3118
    @joshuaoneill3118 9 років тому

    These lessons are amazing.

  • @raulmartinez5056
    @raulmartinez5056 7 років тому

    Great teacher! Thank you for explaining it so clear

  • @nandakoryaaa
    @nandakoryaaa 5 років тому +2

    I somewhat learned the modes by watching tons of rather obscure videos, and still wasn't sure if I understand them correctly. I only regret I haven't seen this video a year ago. Thank you very much.

  • @Blueslurch
    @Blueslurch 6 років тому

    The channel which gives you the most understandable explanations on guitar theory - thanks!

  • @Nick-sg8xo
    @Nick-sg8xo 7 років тому

    Wonderful. So glad I found this. Thank you!

  • @MadaniZakri
    @MadaniZakri 7 років тому +1

    Thank you so much, amazing tutorial

  • @jcpita2069
    @jcpita2069 3 роки тому +1

    this is the only good explanation i have found on the subject, cheers!

  • @viniguitarscream
    @viniguitarscream 4 роки тому

    Awesome explanation! Thanks for the video!

  • @Pete_Sam
    @Pete_Sam 9 років тому

    Wow... amazingly simply explained. Thank You!

  • @Sobchak2
    @Sobchak2 8 років тому

    Brilliantly explained, thanks a lot.

  • @jwarpinski
    @jwarpinski 9 років тому

    This was very helpful- thanks!!

  • @jahissa
    @jahissa 6 років тому

    Absolutely Brilliant Love it and thank you very much for this gift of knowledge. It has taken me 20 years to get over my fear of music theory because of folks like you..Blessings

  • @Ben.Jacobsen
    @Ben.Jacobsen 5 років тому

    So good solo at the end omg!

  • @BangDoMusic
    @BangDoMusic 8 років тому

    thank you for such an amazing lesson !!

  • @josefinigo7100
    @josefinigo7100 9 років тому +1

    Thanks Brent.
    You are unique.

  • @downhill240
    @downhill240 8 років тому

    Always interesting lessons here!

  • @ricardotavares5544
    @ricardotavares5544 6 років тому

    Great lesson. Thanks.

  • @toddlavigne6441
    @toddlavigne6441 9 років тому

    really amazing lessons

  • @bzssheetmetal6783
    @bzssheetmetal6783 5 років тому

    Thank you sir, this is great knowledge your putting out here ,

  • @embreesmith7613
    @embreesmith7613 7 років тому +1

    thanks much, Mike
    great lesson as always .. :)

  • @JohnnyGuitarRocks
    @JohnnyGuitarRocks 7 років тому

    Wonderful lesson. Very insightful and informative. Thanks!

  • @andreasmetz4909
    @andreasmetz4909 3 роки тому

    Very good and very clear Lesson! Trank you!

  • @graphicsociety1
    @graphicsociety1 3 роки тому

    Another great video. Like your music references as well.

  • @michaellade7078
    @michaellade7078 8 років тому

    Excellent lesson. Subscribed

  • @annarakannan6620
    @annarakannan6620 3 роки тому

    Simply Brilliant !!!

  • @CamerOneiric
    @CamerOneiric 9 років тому

    Thorough vid, thank you.

  • @fil7276
    @fil7276 7 років тому +32

    4:08 Dream Theater-Octavarium

  • @naishkiteboarder
    @naishkiteboarder 8 років тому

    This lesson is as good as it gets

  • @jorgedanielfranco1420
    @jorgedanielfranco1420 10 років тому +1

    buena lección ,muchas gracias!!!

  • @xwinglover
    @xwinglover Рік тому

    Such a great channel

  • @KeefsCattys
    @KeefsCattys 3 роки тому

    insightful and extremely useful lesson .. I still lack confidence but understand a lot more , Thank you

  • @FedeOttalagano
    @FedeOttalagano 9 років тому

    Just great! Thanks man

  • @bobach6083
    @bobach6083 2 роки тому

    Im a very experienced guitar player and this is what I've been looking for man. You actually show how to use the knowledge. I've had most of it understood but how to use it is totally different.

    • @fretjamdotcom
      @fretjamdotcom  2 роки тому

      I am humbled! This is a very old lesson. I could do it a lot better now but your comment reassured me that it could still help people. Thank you.

  • @davidbradbury3932
    @davidbradbury3932 8 років тому

    I am enlightened, thanks a lot

  • @diptangshuchanda347
    @diptangshuchanda347 3 роки тому

    This is really helpful!

  • @ryadachaibou8098
    @ryadachaibou8098 4 роки тому

    Perfect video thank you so much

  • @LaGuitarraChapina
    @LaGuitarraChapina 4 роки тому

    Eternally grateful

  • @oPosiidon2800
    @oPosiidon2800 5 років тому +2

    That Cmaj and Fm lick thing you had going was fucking beautiful.

  • @MarshallLore
    @MarshallLore 5 років тому

    this is the best ive had it explained to me

  • @Ca_milo_G
    @Ca_milo_G 6 років тому

    beautiful !!

  • @phayzyre1052
    @phayzyre1052 10 років тому +1

    Another excellent well explained lesson. Thank you! This guy has cleared up so many mysteries of guitar playing I've been able to advance in just weeks and NOT years.
    To hell with all the other guitar teachers, I've found the best one right here! :)

  • @nicholaswoolfenden5254
    @nicholaswoolfenden5254 5 років тому

    Brilliant! Thankyou.

  • @ascgazz7347
    @ascgazz7347 Місяць тому

    I really like how you explain this, I wish I’d found the channel earlier!

  • @vjaytvcanada
    @vjaytvcanada 7 років тому

    awesome tips
    cheers from canada

  • @cylexpogicabigting9467
    @cylexpogicabigting9467 11 місяців тому

    2023 still love watching your tutorials 😅

  • @igorgoga7985
    @igorgoga7985 9 років тому

    spectacular!

  • @daviddrew5036
    @daviddrew5036 10 років тому +1

    Superb very clear love it.DD

  • @ozzy9691
    @ozzy9691 9 років тому +6

    Please do one of these videos for Mixolydian!

  • @michaelmunday6808
    @michaelmunday6808 2 роки тому +2

    Always when exploring a minor progression when you see a i-IV immediately explore Dorian. Some of the best advice I have ever been told is how modes are usually just one to two chords that revolve around and set a mood or a feel. Once you out that into perspective it makes a lot more sense. I tackled aeolian and Ionian first obviously then went on to Dorian and then Phrygian. Know the major scales cold and how the intervals relate across the fretboard will certainly speed this process up

    • @fretjamdotcom
      @fretjamdotcom  2 роки тому

      Wise words. These signifiers, such as the i-IV you mentioned are the prompt we need to think "Dorian" or "Mixolydian" (for example) and then move into the right pattern/position, even if it's just a temporary movement. You're right, it's usually just two chords that give us that indicator.

  • @ianjamiesonmusic
    @ianjamiesonmusic Рік тому

    So good

  • @TheMcardarelli
    @TheMcardarelli 7 років тому +5

    Excellent lesson, and examples! I was thinking "mhhh this sounds very Pink Floydish ", and then you mentioned their songs !

  • @calblac4786
    @calblac4786 2 роки тому

    This is great. I’ve been enjoying your videos a lot and learning from them. Thank you. Although I’d say if you’re writing music, nothing is off the table as far as inspiration goes. If you’re inspired by a particular modal sound, thinking in those terms for writing a piece of music can give you new ideas. Just thinking out loud here and justifying my own desire to write that way. Kind of like saying you want to paint in mostly red for a particular piece of art work. Sometimes limitation can enhance a work.

  • @leocguitar
    @leocguitar 2 роки тому

    Thank you ✌🏼!

  • @ToneD5150
    @ToneD5150 3 роки тому +1

    When in doubt come to FretJam....!!!

  • @mauriciohughes5484
    @mauriciohughes5484 10 років тому

    AWESOME!! THANK YOUUUUUUU!!!!!

  • @chris1232123
    @chris1232123 3 роки тому +1

    Great video! Why does Dorian particularly sound better over unusual chord changes?

  • @faunoram
    @faunoram 5 років тому

    Wow !! First video on UA-cam about this subject that really makes sense ! thanks a lot !! Im subscribing !!!

  • @kennethcarvalho3684
    @kennethcarvalho3684 3 роки тому

    Went over my head but great tutorial as usual

  • @masterbuilder3166
    @masterbuilder3166 Рік тому

    Thank you for doing this video. We asked and you’ve come through brilliantly. You rock 🎸

  • @cliftonvandemyer9340
    @cliftonvandemyer9340 8 років тому

    A borrowed chord is one from the parallel major or minor key. In C major, the parallel key is C minor and borrowed chords include E♭ major, B♭ major, and F minor.

  • @NinjaThugz
    @NinjaThugz 2 роки тому

    Help please. Thank you so much for the info. I’m confused about the Abm > Bm using Abm Dorian and Bm Dorian. How does this work if it’s using notes outside of the scale? Any help is very very welcome.
    Edit: is it a key change? It sounds good I just don’t understand the detail of how it fits the scale.

  • @mindoveranything
    @mindoveranything 10 місяців тому

    This oftentimes played in "Dangdut" music in Indonesia. Same tonality. Great video!

  • @topneverstop
    @topneverstop 3 роки тому

    My brain automatically went to led zeppelin, great lesson mate. Never disappoints^_^ God bless!

  • @martyisabeliever
    @martyisabeliever 10 років тому

    Mike is the theory Boss!

  • @spartanworria
    @spartanworria 9 років тому

    Good video dood

  • @leannrosedejuan6072
    @leannrosedejuan6072 7 років тому +2

    sir, most of the examples in your videos, your using chord progressions
    sir, can i use any chord progressions i want ?? what are the other instances to consider when making chord progressions ??

    • @ALex-cs6mj
      @ALex-cs6mj 6 років тому

      Leann Rose De Juan these are examples which mostly point out the distintive Sound (and style of music, where its used mostly) of the scale/mode.

  • @wecanwatersports1290
    @wecanwatersports1290 8 років тому

    Yes sir!

  • @xmusicfeverx
    @xmusicfeverx 8 років тому

    I have a couple questions similar to salsa's. 1) When playing over a I iv vamp, similar to the ideas presented at 4:35, or 2) a non-diatonic minor chord change, such as at 3:55, what is the idea behind Dorian being a better fit than Aeolian for the iv/non diatonic minor chord progressions, respectively?

    • @fretjamdotcom
      @fretjamdotcom  8 років тому +2

      +Walker Thompson Great question. I would encourage you to try using Aeolian and hear for yourself. You can use the backing tracks on the lesson page if you like.
      To my ears, the b6 of Aeolian is a bit too dissonant when outside of its natural, diatonic position. Raise that b6 to a 6 (Dorian) however and it seems to open it up. It's all ultimately subjective, but I've tried Aeolian in many situations and that b6 always sounds best to my ears as a passing tone, whereas the 6 of Dorian can be held and holds a lot more harmonic tension.
      I don't want to tell you what to play. You need to let your own ears be the judge. The best way to answer questions about whether something is better/worse is to play it for yourself. Let me know what the verdict is! Cheers.

  • @juanpablolopez3893
    @juanpablolopez3893 9 років тому

    THANKS

  • @wariowario138
    @wariowario138 4 роки тому +2

    @4:30 are you borrowing that minor 4 chord from the C minor key?

    • @LawrinMaxwellsmpc500
      @LawrinMaxwellsmpc500 4 роки тому

      Yes, he is, it’s a modal interchange. It’s a borrowed chord from c majors parallel minor c minor. He played the iv chord

  • @down813
    @down813 9 років тому

    At 5:00, I would like to point out that you could switch scale from C Major to C Minor (which has the same notes as F Dorian).

  • @ariespeugenio1982
    @ariespeugenio1982 10 років тому

    great information! thank you,.,

  • @7caesar719
    @7caesar719 7 років тому

    Wow!!!

  • @clintvan33
    @clintvan33 10 років тому

    Why is the major 6th the note that stands out in Dorian? Seems like the b3 or b7 might be?..Helpful video--thanks

    • @fretjamdotcom
      @fretjamdotcom  10 років тому +2

      The b3 and b7 can be seen as chord tones and, although strong tones, they sit naturally over most minor chords. But the major 6th is more unique to Dorian harmony. You don't often hear the major 6th being used in minor chords (outside jazz) so when it is played over a minor chord you get a very distinct sound. It kind of jumps out at you. This is especially the case if your ears are used to hearing natural minor (Aeolian) or minor pentatonic based movements.
      In that respect, hearing a minor key movement through a major 6th (such as the example I gave at 2:02) is one big clue that we're in Dorian territory.

  • @gregmesler2247
    @gregmesler2247 7 років тому

    thank you for this video i really liked how you actually give examples of common dorian progressions. I have one question though. Im a bit confused. in your mixolydian video. When talking about G Mixolydian and the common mixolydian progressions, you refer to the G7 chord as the I chord when you write out your chord examples. As if we should think about the chord progressions as being in the key of G mixolydian.
    In this vid however you show the dorian progressions as being the ii of the key of C major as opposed to the I chord of D Dorian?
    Im am just wondering what is the correct way of understanding this. I hope this question makes sense. thank you.

    • @fretjamdotcom
      @fretjamdotcom  7 років тому

      Very good question. Some people find it easier to see the modal tonic as relative to the parent scale (e.g. 2 as the Dorian tonic, because it's the 2nd mode). Others prefer to see it as its own 1 chord (e.g. 1 as the Dorian tonic). It's up to you which one you use. Looking back, I wish I had at least been consistent, but the main thing is you find a way of conceptualising modal positions that YOU can understand.
      Personally I think most people would find it easier to reference modes against their parent scale. So a D Dorian 1 3 4 movement would effectively be C major 2 4 5 (with a resolution on that 2 instead of the 1 of Cmaj). That way, you can see how all the modes relate to the same system. Hope that makes sense!

    • @gregmesler2247
      @gregmesler2247 7 років тому

      Thanks for the reply! That helped clear some things up for me.
      So now its all about recognizing what these modes sound like. I think I'm going to check out your website.