So veterans hate ROTC? Not JROTC which everyone hates, but ROTC? Like the College program that dumps people into the military because they WANT to be in the military? I guess I just don't understand why you hate people that want their future to be with the US Military. If you could tell me why, I'd actually be really interested in knowing your point of view.
Michael Covington I definitely respect that but I feel like it's a lot of brand new enlisteds that complain about it. People who also havent seen combat and really havent done anything. Im talking like, fresh outta high school 18 year old enlisted.
Michael Covington They are an officer because they aren't fresh out of high school they went through college and are of a higher education and so forth have jobs that require a higher education. An officer might not go front lines but officers do have important jobs, you can argue that officers are in control of more valuable assets, like a battalion or a aircraft carrier or a 90 million dollar jet instead of an enlisted person who is in control of a squad or some aircraft parts.
“Get ready for veterans to hate you.” As a former cadet, I concur. We have a plethora of vets that live around where I go to college and upon meeting them, I could just feel the absolute disgust they have for the word “Cadet”. I mean, the majority of them have had former cadets lead them as Lieutenants in the past, so it shouldn’t come as a surprise.
It makes sense. Most people have at least a few complaints about their bosses in civilian life. Only they usually have at least a little direct experience with the more difficult aspects of the job (that they seemingly completely forgot about) and in most jobs you won't die if they screw up in very many cases. I can see why a friend dying because someone fresh out of school above us in rank despite it being his first time would be infuriating, especially if I had enough experience to know (or at least feel like I knew) how it would turn out. Then there's just straight up military structure.
If a vet gives any ROTC kid shit, their a vetflake. Or otherwise known as a little bitch who can't get over their time in service and has to mold their entire life around what they think they did in the past. Vetflakes are the scum of the earth.
Yeah, the whole “veterans hate you” thing is a fact. I had just gotten back from Iraq when I joined ROTC in my first year of college. I had ROTC cadets trying to tell me what it was like in the Army and overseas. Needless to say, I didn’t in ROTC long
Wait...why were u in iraq? The way it reads, you just graduated hs? Or did you go active then go to college and join rotc....but wouldnt you just ocs? Instead of rotc? If ur already in? Not trying to bust ur chops im legit confused lol
@@BoringFlightVids I initially joined the Army Reserves. I went to Basic right out of hs and was in Iraq 3-6 months after graduating Basic and AIT. After Iraq is when I started college and ROTC
I’m in ROTC right now on a Green to Gold scholarship. The amount of times I’ve had a progression cadet talk about “what the real Army is like” makes me want to pull my hair out and set myself on fire.
@@BoringFlightVids because joining rotc gets you more money, assistance and gets you to the same place at basically the same time. The other option is to do those four years using your GI bill and TA. Then go to OCS. Sometimes it's a little more beneficial this way. If you have a field that is direct commission. Nursing is a good example for this one. Some guys get their degrees and then decide to make the transition to because at first they didn't want to be an officer. It's all just situational.
@@oxACEo Kinda but not exactly. Green to Gold ROTC cadets make more money because they keep their active duty pay. If you're not green to gold then you're basically getting a $400 a month stipend to show up to ROTC 16 days a month (3 days a week PT. Class 1-2 days. And lab). If you already got a full scholarship or was Natty Guard and can get your tuition paid for it could be more time efficient to just do OCS.
Depends on what kind of school you go to for ROTC. Some colleges treat it like an after school club. But if you got the Corps. of Cadets program, kiss your social life and free time goodbye
Aurora Borealis I would say Army and Air force have the best ROTC right now. By far the most two popular and funded ROTC’s. All depends on what you want to do as an officer.
@@hunterbruyere5052 Oh whatever bruh lmao, the branches are barely different. The only people who go this hard for shit like that are people that haven’t served
Official Commentator So, most people in ROTC don't have many (or any) friends? I'm interested in joining, but having friends is very important to me. Didn't have any in high school.
@@nelsonthomas5743 Just like any club or organization in Highschool, Rotc will become family. The years of sweat and work, turns into one of the best bonds and moments you will have in education.
@@nelsonthomas5743 Maybe friends outside of ROTC is harder to make or that you'd have no time to hang out with your old friends but you can make friends in ROTC.
Official Commentator I agree here. A social life must evolve and grow as much as how we ourselves would choose to do so. It’s not leaving behind the old social life, there’s a possibility of creating new ones by cleaning the space for it, and it may be found inside a new club/community. It’s indeed possible to outgrow people. But what truly matters for are very few emotionally mature friends outside the club. Because these people value boundaries in nurturing lots of life areas we have which what keeps us busy. Authentic relationships are a rare gem. Few can only have this in friendships. :)
@@ayalolita agreed, I’m an NCO for my JROTC and I feel like I wanna keep doing it because of the people I’ve bonded with. I share respect with my higher ups and we all get along well, I love it
@@pollackjared8804 I'm a sophomore about to start army ROTC basic course my junior and senior year. I don't intend on commissioning through the army, but one of my aspirations is to be in the civil engineering corps for the Navy after I graduate. I'm not sure if doing another branch's rotc would be "useful" for my ocs package, but I think it'll at least help instill some leadership and management skills if I do go about this!
@@DogeChow91 id say the basic army skills like management may be helpful but you can get that in literally any club on campus. It won't help with navy assessions at all but as long as the extra classes and schedule don't interfere with you graduating on time then go for it. It is sort of a waste of time if you aren't commissioning in that branch and not taking the scholarship money but you do you. If it was me I would focus on my grades, join a club that will give you skills in engineering like engineers without borders, and workout more on your own. Then just submit that Navy OCS packet a year and a half early so you are just waiting to graduate.
@@joe-dl4js I actually changed my mind and now I'm actually going to basic training and AIT this spring to bypass the first 2 years of rotc, and I'll be spending the last two working my way up MS 3 and 4 and hopefully branching in engineering :)
As a former cadet I can say that this is too true. At my university nobody knows rotc even exists they just think we’re a bunch of soldiers that hang out on campus every other day. Except for vets, they just looked at us with contempt. The only thing inaccurate about this is that the kid didn’t grab one of everything on the table and slowly back away saying “right, okay right” to every sentence. Fuck 0530 formation
I don't really get why people hate ROTC members. I get that veterans might hate them because they have to salute an inexperienced soldier but what about if you join the Air Force and wanna be a fighter pilot right out of the gate? I hear you gotta be an officer for that
Robert Kite yes, and in fact rn that’s the track I’m on. But there are more reputable routes, namely the Airforce academy (I was already in normal college) But then, a butter bar is a butter bar.
The truth us it doesn't matter anymore, the service academies are no longer weighted more than ROTC and OCS. Most officers that I know who went through service academies and OCS/OCC/OTS say they wish they had done ROTC.
Coming back from 2 tours in Afghanistan and 1 in Niger, going to college and being yelled at and lectured by a 22 year old civilian in fatigues about honor simply does not get my rocks off.
Don't look down on people because of what you did. Did 1 deployment in mali and 1 in Chad for the french, I'm 22 and im in university right now. I have seen and done shit during the 3 years I was in. But i do look down on others because while I was patrolling the desert they were playing COD, no I don't. And I know sometimes it just boils your blood. But just fuck off and let him talk and ignore him.
@@madlarkin8 ROTC is an officer in the reserve. And the video is about what recruiters make it sound like and what reality is. But i don't understand the link between your comment to the videom
@@amiralcookie3221 that is incorrect. ROTC is not reserve officers. It is reserve officer training corps. Civilians, with a command structure. It is university students who took an extra elective military class. Lecturing other civilians. About the merits and importance of military service. Something they have not done.
@@1Joshrustownage he is not completely wrong tho, someones gotta be back home running the wartime economy, and it won't be our young men as they'll be fighting
No social life, no sleep, all true. Heck, I had to work through school and I can't remember much at all about the last 2 years of college (though it's been many years). But they left out the age cutoff for scholarship for older cadets. But most of all, the fact that EVERYONE treats you a complete moron everywhere you go for the entire time (though, looking back, that's deserved). When I pinned on my gold bar and signed the documents the following Monday to make it official, only then did one of the NCOs tell me he thought I'd done a decent job as acadet. That was the best compliment I ever got as I knew he meant it (because there was no reason why he had to say it at that point).
Willysmb44 the 1st few years when your training to become an officer it's standard all the higher ups treat the cadets like shit so that they work hard for they're rank and they know it's deserved i know because i went through the same stuff lol
Wait help me out here. I am looking into joining ROTC this coming fall. What is the age cuttoff and requirement/chances regarding the scholarship? I'm looking in to Air Force ROTC and I'm 21 right now. I probably won't sign for another year or more
In the reserves I tagged along with some recruiters for a day at a high school careers expo. We just loaded up a ruck to 60lbs and had fun putting it on teenagers. It was even more fun telling them that it was just a base weight and the actual amount of weight they'd carry be almost double. We didn't get many takers that day.
This video was GREAT! Thanks for the laughs. Also Vets don't be so salty about having to call cadets Sir or Ma'am. Keep in mind that this gives cadets an idea of what to expect and how the life style as a US Army Officer will be. I personally believe that this is excellent that the US Army does this!
ROTC is what you make of it. I’ve been in the Army for a few years now and I can definitely say some elements of ROTC is bullshit. But at the end of the day, if you genuinely care and are willing to learn to be the best officer you can be then people will respect you. But if you go into the program acting like a child and doing dumb shit, those who actually served will be pissed off. It’s just common sense.
I was told before joining the DEP that it was be extremely hard to get an ROTC scholarship, and now that I'm in dep and shipping out in 3 weeks, I only now am told by an officer in charge of it that I am a perfect candidate for the position and most qualified out of all the poolees. My reaction to this in my mind was simply "you're fucking joking" but at least this video made me feel better about not doing it
Hopefully your account is still active, I just got the scholarship but haven't signed anything. It's not too late to back out, so I wanted to ask... in hindsight would you have still gone after the scholarship? or do you think the 8 years is ALOT, cause thats the biggest thing for me
Really I'm a freshman in highschool and I've been in rotc in middle school too but I have my uncles whom are veterans but it's prob diffrent tell me more
@@rc59191 Out of curiosity- I plan on getting a degree in aeronautical engineering whilst being in the ROTC. When I get into the real world of the air force, is there any way to not come across like that or is it just a matter of fact? Should I enlist and then go to college for the long run?
@@thevideomaker153 They're looking for critical thinking in your free writes and a high GPA and test scores. You'll also need to pass a fitness test from whichever branch you're looking for. All this varies from branch to branch of course. I'm an Air Force Cadet, and they have higher academic standards than the others. Non of the branches have low standards, however. At least for the AFROTC program, the type 7 is the lowest level scholarship, covering full in-state tuition and fees with a monthly stipend amounting to no more than $18,000 a year. The Type 1 is full-ride pretty much wherever you want and the Type 2 is like the Type 7 but has private school options. I got the type 7 with good writing sections, a 1280 SAT, 29 ACT, and a 3.94 GPA with 15 units of community college courses. If you know you were an outstanding student in high school then you should have a decent shot, but you have to want to serve your country and be willing to make the commitment. ROTC courses are real classes, you'll have them every semester, and it'll mean you have to work extra hard to get your normal coursework done. It's not for everyone, but if you've worked for it this far, if you really want it, and you are committed to keep working to serve your country, you can do it!
@@franklingauthier-parker7253 yeah I'm very motivated to join and in good shape I've been lifting and running a lot my academics arent anything special I have like a 3.4 unweighted
My brother got into ROTC because he loved JROTC and wanted them to pay for his tuition. They always gave out scholarships for a few people who are with them every couple of year's, so my brother figured he would get it because he was by far the most qualified cadet. The Chief decided to not give out scholarships at all that one year.
I have to give it to those young soldiers. They were way better than my recruiter. He promised me Japan and I wound up in Afghanistan. He promised me Jamaica and I was sent Somalia. He promised me 2 months off, I got two weeks. I guess I believed all those promises because I stayed for 22 years listening to them 🤣🤣🤣
these cadets are spot on. "oh yeah be prepared to explain what ROTC is to everyone because nobody knows what it really is". yeah that's what I had to explain to my mom when I told her I joined Navy ROTC instead of just studying in engineering school in college like they wanted. and yes to vets ROTC is a joke that shouldn't exist but where the heck do you get 50% of the military's officers? the service academies aren't graduating enough.
I got to fly a plane lol. i joined AFJROTC and we did plenty of cool things. i got awards for marksmanship, we flew drones, launched model rockets, we did parades, we went to New york, singapore, and D.C. and i met a lot of nice, respectable people.
this is college ROTC.when you graduate you are a 2nd LT. in the Army. JROTC is high school program and you have no obligation to serve in the military.JROTC gives you a leg up if you join up.if you don't at least you have training to be a resistance leader in case red dawn happens.
Reality: (Me laughing my ass off) situation I only sleep for 4 hours anyways, social life nope, can pass that scholarship ROTC for 4 years on first go, YES. No Free Time? I make free time. HA!
I’m in JROTC Wildcat battalion, Alpha Company, 1st Platoon, 4th Squad with learning about leadership and Army stuff Monday and Tuesday, drill Wednesday, uniform inspection & tests on Thursday, and PT on Fridays. It’s a great way to make friends, it’s not at all hard, and often get stupid questions by other high school students like “do you guys get your own guns and like learn how to fight and stuff” all questions that are pretty pointless. JROTC is fun
Don’t let people fool you. As ROTC cadets we learn the EXACT same material that enlisted members learn in boot camp. We actually learn it better because we have the ability to go more in depth with the material because of the length of time we are given. I don’t know why anyone says ROTC is easy because we are up at 0500 three days a week doing PT sessions. We take an APFT every month to ensure we stay in shape. We have field training exercises where we test the material we learn, like patrols, land navigation, and offensive attack formations. So whoever says ROTC is a terrible idea or the easy way out has obviously never stepped foot in a program and are just passing on the rumors they have heard.
Does free tuition feel like something you'd be interested in? -Heck yeah m8! *applies for high school scholarship and gets it* Awww darn m8 you got the most minor medical issue that we've ever seen and even though it isn't applicable to your department, you're still out anyways! (no scholarship for u baiiiii) (True story)
reactive airways so minor that it was medically undetectable - seriously, i almost have above average respiratory health, i just got some minor allergies I wanted a desk job anyways so i see no harm :/ (and neither did several colonels...)
My brother got turned down from USMMA because of a small medical error... three years later and I'm applying to USNA freaking out about DoDMERB finding something so minute with me. Sorry about your reactive airways and it's so weird how something so small like that can make them take away your scholarship. Hope all is well!!
Random Ninja I'll tell you as someone in the military... I got a fucked up ankle (happened in the Army) that may need a second surgery because it's not getting any better. They're telling me I could get med boarded. And I'm a POG. I'm intelligence. Yet, I could be medically discharged. Point of the matter being, no matter what your job is in the military, you're a warfighter first, even if you have a desk job. Army and Marines especially, even if you have a desk job, you still gotta be ready to pick up a rifle and rucksack and go on patrol or some shit. So health is taken serious. I've seen people get discharged back when I went through training because they had asthma. Military is very picky about physical capabilities because, as a team, every person has an assigned task. And if that task can't be complete because that person is unable to do it, the entire unit can be jeopardized. Nothing personal to you, just the military saying, "Hey, man. Thanks for your support and will to serve with us. But we just don't want you to get yourself or others killed." Even if it's the slightest thing, it could affect your effectiveness. Just how the military works.
DeltaWarrior it’s really light the first year, don’t be intimidated. Of course, if you tend to feel intimidated the field as a whole might not be ideal.
Depends on the college. I’ve heard Some colleges are complete jokes and others are pretty high speed. At the University of Kentucky it’s the biggest east of the Mississippi and it’s pretty high speed compared to others. PT 3 mornings a week at 05, a 2 hour field lab on Wednesday and a classroom class like a normal class throughout the week. You have Field Trainings and get opportunities at schools like enlisted do, such as Airborne/Air Assault, pathfinder, etc.
Probably a little late but its fun to me just listen to your higher ups and youll be fine plus try doing teams and any after school things if you can to get ranked up and get to know people more
did you end up joining it or do you have info about people that have joined it and how they like it? i’m thinking of signing up for ROTC for the same reasons as you and idk if it is worth it.
Yet my high school has a JROTC program and our memorial day parade veterans salute the Battalion as we pass. JROTC and ROTC are nothing like they say it is in this video. This is false news about ROTC. I'm in ROTC and I have a good nights sleep and a social life.
This is weird that this popped on my feed today. I guess I’ll participate. I had an ROTC guy as my platoon commander. He couldn’t hold it together upon first time we took contact he got medseped within a month of our deployment due to mental stress in combat. We hated him
Julian T Would you like someone to come to your profession, and skip over mounds to tell you what to do. After possibly 1-20 years of you doing it the right way? Just because they took the "smarter" route and got placed as a "manager" without any clue?
Yeah. That sounds terrible. They should prevent all these ROTC college kids from becoming officers if they have no previous military experience...but that's just me. Sounds like a disaster waiting to happen.
Really not all ROTC-commissioned officers are bad, its just that the bad ones (the ones who don't listen to their NCO's, primarily) make a bad name for the program
As a Vietnam combat veteran, I can assure you the purpose of the military is to find and kill the enemy, by any means necessary, and not to provide "adventure". This is a terribly immature video. The whole purpose of an officer core is about defending freedom, the constitution, and the survival and dominance of the greatest nation on the face of planet earth....a nation with a flag worth dying for. If the reason you join ROTC is free tuition, and to "be cool", the officer corp does not need you. And you "don't get it". Being a citizen soldier is an American tradition. It is about being a man. Not about standing up jumping and clapping hands in delight. In case it isn't perfectly clear, the job of an officer is to stand up under fire, in from of his men, say "follow me", and take the first bullet, if that be god's will. To go without food until the last one of your subordinates has taken nourishment. To spend hours in physical training to be able to run longer, be stronger, and have more stamina than your subordinates. To SET THE EXAMPLE ! To have morals above and beyond the ordinary. To never lie, cheat, or act to harm others for personal gain. To be a man of your word. To honor the officer's code. And sometimes ordering others to be killed, and writing to their next of kin, and after the war living with nightmares over decisions you have made that unnecessarily caused a soldiers death. And the nights you think about eating the gun, when the nightmares come, which they will. The military may be a dangerous place. Visit a VA hospital and visit the men in wheelchairs, without legs. And those without eyes who can no longer see. That is part of combat. It is about risking your life for others...because, at times, SOMEBODY has to do it. The unfortunate price America pays for freedom. The military is not a video game. There are worse things in life than dying for your country. Duty, honor, country.
Sir, thank you for your service first of all. Secondly I will have to agree, this was a satire video. Harmless and meant to give a good laugh. Certainly some folks out there consider the military to be something of a game, which is not the case. Regardless this was only meant as satire. With respect to all branches of the military, as well as the ROTC and prospects. Best wishes.
Had a Cadet try to tell me to go to attention for him at airborne school🤣 I nearly pissed myself laughing to hard. Needless to say I didn’t go to attention. To all you cadets out there please don’t be that guy because it will not work at all🤣
“I gotta go, I have war next period”
underrated comment XD
Im here because i have to take rotc
Dylan Aldape I want to join the army and signed up for NJROTC to get prep but like corona happened
Jrotc is highschoolers, rotc is college students becoming officers.
@@adrianspires3 do you want to become enlisted or a officer in the military.
He didn't even ask for a free shirt before he left. Fake.
Nick Storc lol 😂 yes everyone wants Army shirt
No really
nephew got me an Army t-shirt,even though i was a Coasty.
Nick S no shit Sherlock
Relco12 my reply was a joke... shitface 😂 can’t even listen to your own advice asswipe
" oh yeah veterans are gonna hate you" lol best line ever, Because we do
So veterans hate ROTC? Not JROTC which everyone hates, but ROTC? Like the College program that dumps people into the military because they WANT to be in the military? I guess I just don't understand why you hate people that want their future to be with the US Military. If you could tell me why, I'd actually be really interested in knowing your point of view.
Michael Covington I definitely respect that but I feel like it's a lot of brand new enlisteds that complain about it. People who also havent seen combat and really havent done anything. Im talking like, fresh outta high school 18 year old enlisted.
Vets hate everyone .Just a FYI
Michael Covington They are an officer because they aren't fresh out of high school they went through college and are of a higher education and so forth have jobs that require a higher education. An officer might not go front lines but officers do have important jobs, you can argue that officers are in control of more valuable assets, like a battalion or a aircraft carrier or a 90 million dollar jet instead of an enlisted person who is in control of a squad or some aircraft parts.
what about a veteran doing ROTC when they have free education to take advantage of?
Does free tuition sound like something you'd be interested in?*BOOM*
“Get ready for veterans to hate you.” As a former cadet, I concur. We have a plethora of vets that live around where I go to college and upon meeting them, I could just feel the absolute disgust they have for the word “Cadet”. I mean, the majority of them have had former cadets lead them as Lieutenants in the past, so it shouldn’t come as a surprise.
You can’t spell lost without LT
It makes sense. Most people have at least a few complaints about their bosses in civilian life. Only they usually have at least a little direct experience with the more difficult aspects of the job (that they seemingly completely forgot about) and in most jobs you won't die if they screw up in very many cases.
I can see why a friend dying because someone fresh out of school above us in rank despite it being his first time would be infuriating, especially if I had enough experience to know (or at least feel like I knew) how it would turn out.
Then there's just straight up military structure.
im currently in NROTC and honesly i feel like midshipman has a bit of a better ring to it
@@captainplague4921 Same lol, which unit?
If a vet gives any ROTC kid shit, their a vetflake. Or otherwise known as a little bitch who can't get over their time in service and has to mold their entire life around what they think they did in the past. Vetflakes are the scum of the earth.
The faces this blonde dude makes has me dead
Yeah, the whole “veterans hate you” thing is a fact. I had just gotten back from Iraq when I joined ROTC in my first year of college. I had ROTC cadets trying to tell me what it was like in the Army and overseas. Needless to say, I didn’t in ROTC long
Wait...why were u in iraq? The way it reads, you just graduated hs? Or did you go active then go to college and join rotc....but wouldnt you just ocs? Instead of rotc? If ur already in? Not trying to bust ur chops im legit confused lol
@@BoringFlightVids I initially joined the Army Reserves. I went to Basic right out of hs and was in Iraq 3-6 months after graduating Basic and AIT. After Iraq is when I started college and ROTC
I’m in ROTC right now on a Green to Gold scholarship. The amount of times I’ve had a progression cadet talk about “what the real Army is like” makes me want to pull my hair out and set myself on fire.
@@BoringFlightVids because joining rotc gets you more money, assistance and gets you to the same place at basically the same time.
The other option is to do those four years using your GI bill and TA. Then go to OCS. Sometimes it's a little more beneficial this way. If you have a field that is direct commission. Nursing is a good example for this one.
Some guys get their degrees and then decide to make the transition to because at first they didn't want to be an officer. It's all just situational.
@@oxACEo Kinda but not exactly. Green to Gold ROTC cadets make more money because they keep their active duty pay. If you're not green to gold then you're basically getting a $400 a month stipend to show up to ROTC 16 days a month (3 days a week PT. Class 1-2 days. And lab). If you already got a full scholarship or was Natty Guard and can get your tuition paid for it could be more time efficient to just do OCS.
Depends on what kind of school you go to for ROTC. Some colleges treat it like an after school club. But if you got the Corps. of Cadets program, kiss your social life and free time goodbye
Still kind of a joke honestly
Aurora Borealis I would say Army and Air force have the best ROTC right now. By far the most two popular and funded ROTC’s. All depends on what you want to do as an officer.
Douglas Murphy I’m going to naval academy or West Point 🤔
Douglas Murphy Corps of cadets looks totally worth it.
I plan on going for the corps of cadets! 😩
National Guard expectations: "Fight the homefront! Protect your community!". Reality: Deployed to middle east for 11 months
I thought the National Guard only helped within the U.S?
me in the Guard reading about this now from kuwait :( if only I saw this sooner
@@davidayriyan6544no, they’re both federal & state owned. They can be activated for deployment or rotation.
Pretty much true all except him not asking for free shirt.
Sir white a lot the pagan preacher HAHA this is hilarious. Except the Army isn’t the best. I’d only ask for a T-Shirt if they were Marines ;)
@@hunterbruyere5052 Oh whatever bruh lmao, the branches are barely different. The only people who go this hard for shit like that are people that haven’t served
In all fairness ROTC actually helped me wake up earlier, but their right on the social life thing.
Official Commentator So, most people in ROTC don't have many (or any) friends? I'm interested in joining, but having friends is very important to me. Didn't have any in high school.
@@nelsonthomas5743 Just like any club or organization in Highschool, Rotc will become family. The years of sweat and work, turns into one of the best bonds and moments you will have in education.
@@nelsonthomas5743 Maybe friends outside of ROTC is harder to make or that you'd have no time to hang out with your old friends but you can make friends in ROTC.
Official Commentator I agree here. A social life must evolve and grow as much as how we ourselves would choose to do so. It’s not leaving behind the old social life, there’s a possibility of creating new ones by cleaning the space for it, and it may be found inside a new club/community. It’s indeed possible to outgrow people. But what truly matters for are very few emotionally mature friends outside the club. Because these people value boundaries in nurturing lots of life areas we have which what keeps us busy. Authentic relationships are a rare gem. Few can only have this in friendships. :)
@@ayalolita agreed, I’m an NCO for my JROTC and I feel like I wanna keep doing it because of the people I’ve bonded with. I share respect with my higher ups and we all get along well, I love it
As someone that was apart of ROTC through college and now is going through OCS in a different branch. The reality was too fucking true.
completely
Why didn't you finish ROTC? Isn't OCS after college?
@@pollackjared8804 I'm a sophomore about to start army ROTC basic course my junior and senior year. I don't intend on commissioning through the army, but one of my aspirations is to be in the civil engineering corps for the Navy after I graduate. I'm not sure if doing another branch's rotc would be "useful" for my ocs package, but I think it'll at least help instill some leadership and management skills if I do go about this!
@@DogeChow91 id say the basic army skills like management may be helpful but you can get that in literally any club on campus. It won't help with navy assessions at all but as long as the extra classes and schedule don't interfere with you graduating on time then go for it. It is sort of a waste of time if you aren't commissioning in that branch and not taking the scholarship money but you do you. If it was me I would focus on my grades, join a club that will give you skills in engineering like engineers without borders, and workout more on your own. Then just submit that Navy OCS packet a year and a half early so you are just waiting to graduate.
@@joe-dl4js I actually changed my mind and now I'm actually going to basic training and AIT this spring to bypass the first 2 years of rotc, and I'll be spending the last two working my way up MS 3 and 4 and hopefully branching in engineering :)
“How do you feel about never getting a good night’s sleep again?”
Is he talking to Engineering students or to ROTC cadets?
@@howardbaxter2514 My sister is an Engineering student...she feels that from a mile away lol
I can relate. I hear no lies.
As a former cadet I can say that this is too true. At my university nobody knows rotc even exists they just think we’re a bunch of soldiers that hang out on campus every other day. Except for vets, they just looked at us with contempt. The only thing inaccurate about this is that the kid didn’t grab one of everything on the table and slowly back away saying “right, okay right” to every sentence. Fuck 0530 formation
I don't really get why people hate ROTC members. I get that veterans might hate them because they have to salute an inexperienced soldier but what about if you join the Air Force and wanna be a fighter pilot right out of the gate? I hear you gotta be an officer for that
Robert Kite yes, and in fact rn that’s the track I’m on. But there are more reputable routes, namely the Airforce academy (I was already in normal college) But then, a butter bar is a butter bar.
The truth us it doesn't matter anymore, the service academies are no longer weighted more than ROTC and OCS. Most officers that I know who went through service academies and OCS/OCC/OTS say they wish they had done ROTC.
@@MrHerky61 the only officers with respect are prior enlisted. Other than that your balls will be firmly busted.
@@Leo-vr3bg Mustang here
Just finish college and go Guard/Reserve if you wanna be a fighter pilot
Coming back from 2 tours in Afghanistan and 1 in Niger, going to college and being yelled at and lectured by a 22 year old civilian in fatigues about honor simply does not get my rocks off.
Don't look down on people because of what you did. Did 1 deployment in mali and 1 in Chad for the french, I'm 22 and im in university right now. I have seen and done shit during the 3 years I was in. But i do look down on others because while I was patrolling the desert they were playing COD, no I don't. And I know sometimes it just boils your blood. But just fuck off and let him talk and ignore him.
@@amiralcookie3221 sounds like you dont know what ROTC is. Or what the video was about.
@@madlarkin8 ROTC is an officer in the reserve. And the video is about what recruiters make it sound like and what reality is. But i don't understand the link between your comment to the videom
@@amiralcookie3221 that is incorrect. ROTC is not reserve officers. It is reserve officer training corps.
Civilians, with a command structure. It is university students who took an extra elective military class. Lecturing other civilians. About the merits and importance of military service. Something they have not done.
@@madlarkin8 oh shit my bad, i don't know much about the American army. Thanks for explaining now it does make sense.
*you wanna be an American hero?*
These guys are our future generals,and I’m cool with it.Wars aren’t won only with tanks and rifles,you need smart men leading.
I agree, back then we won with brute strength. We need brains and bron now.
and women
@@lambdastudios4083 this comment aged well
@@-deez-nuts need is a strong word in regards to that
@@1Joshrustownage he is not completely wrong tho, someones gotta be back home running the wartime economy, and it won't be our young men as they'll be fighting
“Would you be interested in never getting a good night sleep again?” This is very accurate. I haven’t slept well since Christmas break
No social life, no sleep, all true. Heck, I had to work through school and I can't remember much at all about the last 2 years of college (though it's been many years). But they left out the age cutoff for scholarship for older cadets. But most of all, the fact that EVERYONE treats you a complete moron everywhere you go for the entire time (though, looking back, that's deserved). When I pinned on my gold bar and signed the documents the following Monday to make it official, only then did one of the NCOs tell me he thought I'd done a decent job as acadet. That was the best compliment I ever got as I knew he meant it (because there was no reason why he had to say it at that point).
Willysmb44 the 1st few years when your training to become an officer it's standard all the higher ups treat the cadets like shit so that they work hard for they're rank and they know it's deserved i know because i went through the same stuff lol
Wait help me out here. I am looking into joining ROTC this coming fall. What is the age cuttoff and requirement/chances regarding the scholarship? I'm looking in to Air Force ROTC and I'm 21 right now. I probably won't sign for another year or more
In the reserves I tagged along with some recruiters for a day at a high school careers expo. We just loaded up a ruck to 60lbs and had fun putting it on teenagers. It was even more fun telling them that it was just a base weight and the actual amount of weight they'd carry be almost double. We didn't get many takers that day.
this channel is underrated for the amount of time you put into the video thanks liked subbed
Jesus Christ has spoken!
jesus christ what the fuck
*_This just makes me want to join more lmao._*
How
@@cruzgomes5660 because I already don’t have a social life
Yo profile picture???
@@johncollier8499 I feel you bud
I can tell you already probably didn’t have a social life
1:04 is my favorite part lmao.
“It’s pretty much the same thing.”
This video was GREAT! Thanks for the laughs. Also Vets don't be so salty about having to call cadets Sir or Ma'am. Keep in mind that this gives cadets an idea of what to expect and how the life style as a US Army Officer will be. I personally believe that this is excellent that the US Army does this!
the blonde hair guys face was hilarious
This was pretty darn accurate. especially the scholarship part 😂😂😂.
That’s why I went in with a 4 year
ROTC is what you make of it. I’ve been in the Army for a few years now and I can definitely say some elements of ROTC is bullshit. But at the end of the day, if you genuinely care and are willing to learn to be the best officer you can be then people will respect you. But if you go into the program acting like a child and doing dumb shit, those who actually served will be pissed off. It’s just common sense.
I was told before joining the DEP that it was be extremely hard to get an ROTC scholarship, and now that I'm in dep and shipping out in 3 weeks, I only now am told by an officer in charge of it that I am a perfect candidate for the position and most qualified out of all the poolees. My reaction to this in my mind was simply "you're fucking joking" but at least this video made me feel better about not doing it
Hopefully your account is still active, I just got the scholarship but haven't signed anything. It's not too late to back out, so I wanted to ask... in hindsight would you have still gone after the scholarship? or do you think the 8 years is ALOT, cause thats the biggest thing for me
@@shaggersfc4802 do it
I served 2 years RA, and am now in the ASU ROTC program. I can’t begin to pinpoint how fucking accurate this shit is.
Lol they're not wrong about veterans hating you.
Why do they hate tho
Really I'm a freshman in highschool and I've been in rotc in middle school too but I have my uncles whom are veterans but it's prob diffrent tell me more
@@ki11j0y2 nobody likes a leader who hasn't put their time in as an enlisted. Or at least that's how we all felt when I was an Airman.
My dad's a vet-
@@rc59191 Out of curiosity- I plan on getting a degree in aeronautical engineering whilst being in the ROTC. When I get into the real world of the air force, is there any way to not come across like that or is it just a matter of fact? Should I enlist and then go to college for the long run?
I love how formo kept getting earlier and earlier
"Veterans hate you." It's the reason I clicked on this video. I wanted to spread some hate.
Done jrotc felt akward walking around campus with my uniform on lol
You always have to wear it tho?
@@Jofan614 just Thursdays, at least for us
@@mohammadrezapahlavi4578 bro same, well for my friends atleast. I'm in C.A.P
Yes! Same lol, and I get a lot of questions about what JROTC is and some kids jokingly say "thank you for your service"
Jokes on you I don't have a social life OR enough sleep anyways!
I got it easy, got the type 7, free tuition at the school I wanted, no summer BS, passed physical and medical easy
What college did you go to?
@@thevideomaker153 Fresno State, for Biochemistry, and I'm still a student
@@franklingauthier-parker7253 oh cool how hard was it to get the scholarship was it as competitive as like the cadet corps
@@thevideomaker153 They're looking for critical thinking in your free writes and a high GPA and test scores. You'll also need to pass a fitness test from whichever branch you're looking for. All this varies from branch to branch of course. I'm an Air Force Cadet, and they have higher academic standards than the others. Non of the branches have low standards, however. At least for the AFROTC program, the type 7 is the lowest level scholarship, covering full in-state tuition and fees with a monthly stipend amounting to no more than $18,000 a year. The Type 1 is full-ride pretty much wherever you want and the Type 2 is like the Type 7 but has private school options. I got the type 7 with good writing sections, a 1280 SAT, 29 ACT, and a 3.94 GPA with 15 units of community college courses. If you know you were an outstanding student in high school then you should have a decent shot, but you have to want to serve your country and be willing to make the commitment. ROTC courses are real classes, you'll have them every semester, and it'll mean you have to work extra hard to get your normal coursework done. It's not for everyone, but if you've worked for it this far, if you really want it, and you are committed to keep working to serve your country, you can do it!
@@franklingauthier-parker7253 yeah I'm very motivated to join and in good shape I've been lifting and running a lot my academics arent anything special I have like a 3.4 unweighted
My brother got into ROTC because he loved JROTC and wanted them to pay for his tuition. They always gave out scholarships for a few people who are with them every couple of year's, so my brother figured he would get it because he was by far the most qualified cadet.
The Chief decided to not give out scholarships at all that one year.
Expectation: Do you want to be an officer?
Reality: Do you want to live in pain every single day for the rest of your life?
What do you mean pain?
@@forthdimension686 They mean pain.
"I gotta go serve my country next period"
I love how PT formation times continue getting earlier. As an ROTC cadet, I have come to realize that reality as the semester progresses 🤣
" how does having no social life sound ?"
To bad I already dont have one
The whole reality part is so true it’s hilarious
I go to a military academy so this is pretty much my entire school in a nut shell
I have to give it to those young soldiers. They were way better than my recruiter. He promised me Japan and I wound up in Afghanistan. He promised me Jamaica and I was sent Somalia. He promised me 2 months off, I got two weeks. I guess I believed all those promises because I stayed for 22 years listening to them 🤣🤣🤣
Lol rip
my school has airforce jrotc and i absolutly love it
In the UK we have a thing called the CCF which stands for combined cadet force. I’m pretty sure there exactly the same thing.
I heard blade clark talk and r o t c stands for run off to canada. UK great country yours truly evans w Robinson sgr ret
these cadets are spot on. "oh yeah be prepared to explain what ROTC is to everyone because nobody knows what it really is". yeah that's what I had to explain to my mom when I told her I joined Navy ROTC instead of just studying in engineering school in college like they wanted. and yes to vets ROTC is a joke that shouldn't exist but where the heck do you get 50% of the military's officers? the service academies aren't graduating enough.
HAAHHA This killed me, but I'm ready... 5 years enlisted and a few months away from ROTC.
"0300 Formation" Giving me flashbacks
Coming back after 4 years this is a nostalgia trip
Best recruiting ad ever
All I gotta say is I LOVED IT IT WAS SO AWESOME AND AMAZING
"Get ready for veterans to hate you"
Lmao. Had me dying
I like the name Gallagher cause of shameless 😂
This is literally how my flight commander introduced us to Jrotc (I go to a military academy high school) during plebe week -
I’m actually so hyped to do this
You like call of duty pretty much like that
That's how Uncle Sam gets you.
_he always gets you when you least expect it, friend..._
I got to fly a plane lol. i joined AFJROTC and we did plenty of cool things. i got awards for marksmanship, we flew drones, launched model rockets, we did parades, we went to New york, singapore, and D.C. and i met a lot of nice, respectable people.
this is college ROTC.when you graduate you are a 2nd LT. in the Army. JROTC is high school program and you have no obligation to serve in the military.JROTC gives you a leg up if you join up.if you don't at least you have training to be a resistance leader in case red dawn happens.
Reality: (Me laughing my ass off) situation I only sleep for 4 hours anyways, social life nope, can pass that scholarship ROTC for 4 years on first go, YES. No Free Time? I make free time. HA!
ROTC program is tiring as hell. But dont get me wrong, im happy that i joined the program because it gave me a challenge and to test my potential
"you like call of duty right? pretty much the same thing" 😂
I’m in JROTC Wildcat battalion, Alpha Company, 1st Platoon, 4th Squad with learning about leadership and Army stuff Monday and Tuesday, drill Wednesday, uniform inspection & tests on Thursday, and PT on Fridays. It’s a great way to make friends, it’s not at all hard, and often get stupid questions by other high school students like “do you guys get your own guns and like learn how to fight and stuff” all questions that are pretty pointless. JROTC is fun
ArchitCrunch this is about ROTC which I would assume is a step up in difficulty
Thank you for your service
Sealy Sikes it is. Most JROTC kids assume whenever they see ROTC that it is about them.
Omg so true, except the sleeping part. Every Cadet has to get a sleep early for stances and PT (physical training)
Well we all know which ROTC is better than army. Navy
Nahhhh Air Force ROTC is the way to go
@ryder terryYes!! BOY!#ThereYouGo#AirForceSlay#FutureAirmen
Airforce and Navy is cool....But have y'all heard about something called....
Unuted States Marine Corps?!
maegan james what do you mean air force. It's actually the chair force 😂😂😂😂
Joshua Acosta um no sir it's not
Thank you for your service ✊🏽
Ngl the second one sounds cooler to me. I don’t have plans in the summer anyway
That’s sick I was thinking about going to GCU I’m from Chandler.
Reserve
Officer
Training
Corp.
I died when he said "play call of duty? Pretty much the same thing " 😂😂😂😂😂😂😭😭😂😂😂😂
As a ROO, I approve. Just glad my cadets didn't put this together, lol.
I like how they put the poster of that blonde in there. She's not even wearing a uniform. Talk about bait....
Was thinking about doing rotc after my current enlistment y’all don’t actually wear the uniform out in public do you?
Depends on if there’s an event or if you’re in a classroom setting.
When he said I’ll answer your question with a question, I thought he was going to say, “have you ever tasted a rainbow, because here, you will.”
USAFA cadet here, found this hilarious. Great vid.
The blonde is ian gallagher from shameless
wooosh
Rotc has the best parties tho
True
Trueeee!
It’s call a leadership exercise
This is too accurate
We loved when cadets were attached. They were cute.
Don’t let people fool you. As ROTC cadets we learn the EXACT same material that enlisted members learn in boot camp. We actually learn it better because we have the ability to go more in depth with the material because of the length of time we are given. I don’t know why anyone says ROTC is easy because we are up at 0500 three days a week doing PT sessions. We take an APFT every month to ensure we stay in shape. We have field training exercises where we test the material we learn, like patrols, land navigation, and offensive attack formations. So whoever says ROTC is a terrible idea or the easy way out has obviously never stepped foot in a program and are just passing on the rumors they have heard.
wausaumosinee ...middle Schooler wakes up at 0500 for school...
yeah fucking right
wausaumosinee found a guy that takes it WAY too seriously
enlist first, then go rotc if you really want to. so that way people will actually listen to you because of your experience
Found the ROTC guy.
Does free tuition feel like something you'd be interested in?
-Heck yeah m8! *applies for high school scholarship and gets it*
Awww darn m8 you got the most minor medical issue that we've ever seen and even though it isn't applicable to your department, you're still out anyways! (no scholarship for u baiiiii)
(True story)
Random Ninja what was the medical issue?
reactive airways so minor that it was medically undetectable - seriously, i almost have above average respiratory health, i just got some minor allergies
I wanted a desk job anyways so i see no harm :/ (and neither did several colonels...)
Random Ninja dang that sucks I’m sorry :(
My brother got turned down from USMMA because of a small medical error... three years later and I'm applying to USNA freaking out about DoDMERB finding something so minute with me. Sorry about your reactive airways and it's so weird how something so small like that can make them take away your scholarship. Hope all is well!!
Random Ninja I'll tell you as someone in the military... I got a fucked up ankle (happened in the Army) that may need a second surgery because it's not getting any better. They're telling me I could get med boarded. And I'm a POG. I'm intelligence. Yet, I could be medically discharged. Point of the matter being, no matter what your job is in the military, you're a warfighter first, even if you have a desk job. Army and Marines especially, even if you have a desk job, you still gotta be ready to pick up a rifle and rucksack and go on patrol or some shit. So health is taken serious. I've seen people get discharged back when I went through training because they had asthma. Military is very picky about physical capabilities because, as a team, every person has an assigned task. And if that task can't be complete because that person is unable to do it, the entire unit can be jeopardized. Nothing personal to you, just the military saying, "Hey, man. Thanks for your support and will to serve with us. But we just don't want you to get yourself or others killed." Even if it's the slightest thing, it could affect your effectiveness. Just how the military works.
Every few seconds “free tuition”
Honestly..I got out of there at the right time. Right before all the required sunmer trainings 😂
I just went to the JROTC military ball as someone's date.
Sorry to hear that.
I want to take ROTC.. What is it really like?
DeltaWarrior it’s really light the first year, don’t be intimidated. Of course, if you tend to feel intimidated the field as a whole might not be ideal.
Depends on the college. I’ve heard
Some colleges are complete jokes and others are pretty high speed. At the University of Kentucky it’s the biggest east of the Mississippi and it’s pretty high speed compared to others. PT 3 mornings a week at 05, a 2 hour field lab on Wednesday and a classroom class like a normal class throughout the week. You have Field Trainings and get opportunities at schools like enlisted do, such as Airborne/Air Assault, pathfinder, etc.
Probably a little late but its fun to me just listen to your higher ups and youll be fine plus try doing teams and any after school things if you can to get ranked up and get to know people more
Lots of pushups
The first one reminds me when i used to recruit at my school for Jrotc
Im applying to colleges and was expecting to do rotc to get out of tuition, and this completely talked me out of it
did you end up joining it or do you have info about people that have joined it and how they like it? i’m thinking of signing up for ROTC for the same reasons as you and idk if it is worth it.
They're haircuts are out of regulation
zachary mckay their hair is in regs
Yet my high school has a JROTC program and our memorial day parade veterans salute the Battalion as we pass. JROTC and ROTC are nothing like they say it is in this video. This is false news about ROTC. I'm in ROTC and I have a good nights sleep and a social life.
Did someone hold a gun to your head?
I swear everyone asks to be a sniper like COD, but when you have to piss in a cup and start getting shot its instant regret.
This is weird that this popped on my feed today. I guess I’ll participate. I had an ROTC guy as my platoon commander. He couldn’t hold it together upon first time we took contact he got medseped within a month of our deployment due to mental stress in combat. We hated him
Lol
why dont veterans like ROTC
Julian T Would you like someone to come to your profession, and skip over mounds to tell you what to do. After possibly 1-20 years of you doing it the right way? Just because they took the "smarter" route and got placed as a "manager" without any clue?
Only ROTC folks who matter, are previously enlisted or folks who've worked actual labor intensive jobs before becoming dots
Dallas Ryder oh ok thanks for the info
Yeah. That sounds terrible. They should prevent all these ROTC college kids from becoming officers if they have no previous military experience...but that's just me. Sounds like a disaster waiting to happen.
Really not all ROTC-commissioned officers are bad, its just that the bad ones (the ones who don't listen to their NCO's, primarily) make a bad name for the program
As a Vietnam combat veteran, I can assure you the purpose of the military is to find and kill the enemy, by any means necessary, and not to provide "adventure". This is a terribly immature video. The whole purpose of an officer core is about defending freedom, the constitution, and the survival and dominance of the greatest nation on the face of planet earth....a nation with a flag worth dying for. If the reason you join ROTC is free tuition, and to "be cool", the officer corp does not need you. And you "don't get it". Being a citizen soldier is an American tradition. It is about being a man. Not about standing up jumping and clapping hands in delight. In case it isn't perfectly clear, the job of an officer is to stand up under fire, in from of his men, say "follow me", and take the first bullet, if that be god's will. To go without food until the last one of your subordinates has taken nourishment. To spend hours in physical training to be able to run longer, be stronger, and have more stamina than your subordinates. To SET THE EXAMPLE ! To have morals above and beyond the ordinary. To never lie, cheat, or act to harm others for personal gain. To be a man of your word. To honor the officer's code. And sometimes ordering others to be killed, and writing to their next of kin, and after the war living with nightmares over decisions you have made that unnecessarily caused a soldiers death. And the nights you think about eating the gun, when the nightmares come, which they will. The military may be a dangerous place. Visit a VA hospital and visit the men in wheelchairs, without legs. And those without eyes who can no longer see. That is part of combat. It is about risking your life for others...because, at times, SOMEBODY has to do it. The unfortunate price America pays for freedom. The military is not a video game. There are worse things in life than dying for your country. Duty, honor, country.
Hey calm down they said something bout that in the beginning
Tom I think you missed the point of the entire video.
Sir, thank you for your service first of all. Secondly I will have to agree, this was a satire video. Harmless and meant to give a good laugh. Certainly some folks out there consider the military to be something of a game, which is not the case. Regardless this was only meant as satire. With respect to all branches of the military, as well as the ROTC and prospects. Best wishes.
And then the theres being a marine... which I'm doing :/
OKAY FELLA I'm gonna have to ask you to take many seats and calm down. The video is just for fun and laughter and to not be taken seriously.
Reality didn’t sound so bad until he said that there’s training over the summer...
Accurate. Even at the JROTC level it is accurate.
This makes my skin crawl.
Had a Cadet try to tell me to go to attention for him at airborne school🤣 I nearly pissed myself laughing to hard. Needless to say I didn’t go to attention. To all you cadets out there please don’t be that guy because it will not work at all🤣
My expectation is nothing like that I think of it as hard core military training camp
The guy: "would you be interested in never getting a good night sleep again?😁🤨"
Me: "i don't sleep in the first place!🤣"