WE MESSED UP! Ha Giang Loop Day 1
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- Опубліковано 1 гру 2022
- We are taking on Vietnam's most epic biking road trip, the Ha Giang Loop!
The Ha Giang Loop is a 3 day biking road trip through the north of Vietnam and we have been buzzing to do this for years! But unfortunally our trip got off to a very bad start as we ran into some trouble with the local police...
This is only part 1/3 of our Ha Giang Loop series so make sure to check out part 2 & 3 to find out how the rest of our trip went!
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Hey, we're Eoin and Aisling, a couple from Ireland who have packed their bags, waved goodbye to home and set off to travel the world in search of new adventures!
We started our journey by spending 3 months walking from the top to the bottom of Croatia and exploring a few of the boarding countries. Then at the start of January 2022 we hopped on a flight to South East Asia!
Peace out x
I highly recommend getting a full-face helmet and wearing a motorcycle jacket with gloves. I motorbike from Saigon to Hanoi and I either got lucky or or they didn't pull me over because they couldn't really see that I was a pasty white American, haha.
From talking with the other bikers I met while there, their face being exposed seemed to be the common factor in getting pulled over. But it's all anecdotal in the end.
In any case, I'm glad you enjoyed the trip. I didn't get to do the loop since our visa was done. But I'm headed back in a few months for trip #2!
The editing on these videos is getting better and better with each upload ! You guys, are honestly becoming my favorite channel to watch on youtube. Trip Looked incredible !
Thank you so much, massively appreciate it! Hope we are giving you a good laugh too 😅 we're trying to improve the editting with every video 🙌🏻
What a wild day 1! So happy to see that it didn't effect your trip and you had an amazing first day in the end. Also, you guys are inspiring us with your editing as well, getting better every video 🙌 Safe travels!! 🙌
Aw thanks guys! Appreciate it so much! And we weren't letting that set us back 🙌🏻
Stay focused and good luck !!
Thank you!
Omg guys how frustrating for you! So glad it all worked out in the end! We will be living vicariously through this with you as it’s something on our bucketlist but don’t thing we can do with Luna yet!! Love the video guys ❤
Aw it was a nightmare but thankfully it got better as the day went on. You could definitely do majority of the loop in car if it was something you were interested in doing. There are alot of big main roads and we choose to go down the smaller more narrow roads for more of an adventure 😂 but some of the most beautiful parts we're on big stretches of roads fit for cars
Omg amazing!! We are looking into this as we type 😂❤
@@theglobetrottingfamily hopefully you find something 👀
Are we supposed to know who Luna is?
A lot of people who choose to ride the ha giang loop solo will have an international driving permit that dates the convention on international road traffic 1949 which the Vietnamese police do not recognise. They do however recognise the updated convention of 1968.
"They were just dicks," says the person driving illegally about cops doing their jobs. Interesting. Best to research the rules of the place you're going instead of assuming. Glad you enjoyed the loop!
So crazy! what a start! we just finished the 4-day tour and saw 2 checkpoints, the first one wasn't even interested in stopping us and the second one just waved us through!
Hi.
Next month will go for this trip.
Could you post those police checkpoints by link from Google maps?
@tomeksaks527 any luck I'd also like to know where they are
Hey! The fire check point we came across was just before you leave Ha Giang town. There is a big Bridget and the check point is right at the bridge. The 2nd check point we seen was about a 10mins drive after this on the same road. Once we got out of the town area where you start the loop we seen no other check points and had no other issues
Is there a place to rent bikes after you pass both checkpoints? Thanks
Such a great adventure !
We had the best time doing this loop, the views were incredible and we loved seeing all the mountain villages
You call them dicks but also you didn't have the IDP man! If I was a cop and I was tired of telling people that they are illegally driving in Vietnam because they didn't get their IDP before arriving then I'd be a dick too. In the end, you didn't have the proper paperwork. End of story. Every tourist has a responsibility as a guest in another country to due their research and make sure they follow the rules of that said country. Beyond that they were nice enough to sort your holiday out after the fact which a local without a license would have not received that treatment.
Vietnam has issued a decree (effective since 2015) to legalize the use of an International Driving Permit (IDP) in the country. If you are from a country listed in the 1968 Convention agreement, all you need to do is bring this document and your national driving license with you in case you have to present them to the police and the authorities. You won’t need to convert the license to a Vietnamese license. However, the IDP issued under the 1949 Convention is not recognized in Vietnam, unfortunately. Ireland and the UK are a part of the 1949 convention and therefore not recognized. (Australia is not a part of either)
I think you and all other foreigners who are considering a bike trip in Vietnam have to understand that driving without proper licenses and ownership card is quite a big no no in Vietnam. Just because you hadnt got into troubles before doesnt mean it will always be the case. They have all the rights to fine and impound your bike, the fine ranges from 1 mil to 2 mil and the checkpoint guys dont even have the authority to take it, you have to go to the state treasury to pay it. Asking to give money to them directly is considered bribing and with a camera pointing directly to their faces, they wont accept it.
We understand now that the international license is a big issue in Vietnam but we have been travelling around Southeast Asia for 12 months now and not once have we been asked for anything other than our license. We drive safely on the roads and we respect the officers, our camera if nothing else is our own bit of protection from foreign officers. Before coming back to Vietnam we will be sure to have an international license and now we are able to share with other travellers that this is an essential when driving in Vietnam so thankfully we have some good things to take away from this experience
@@EoinandAisling just because you have been travelling across multiple countries, does not mean you do take everything for granted. The point i think others are trying to make is not just the IDL - but just know the rules of the countries you visit. As seasoned travelers - I know you respect the cultures of the places you travel, but you should also know the law. How would you like it if someone from south east Asia came to your country and drove without a license?
@@EoinandAisling If you've ever gotten angry at a news article about an uninsured driver caught driving without a license yet again, remember you're that person. You failed to do any research, were caught driving without a license, and still called the police "dicks" and continued driving anyway. If you had hit a local, there'd have been no insurance that'd cover their injuries.
You pointing the camera at them actually makes it harder for you to bride. They are making it more strict to prevent bribery, if they are found out taking bribes from one of the videos they will get punished hard.
My dad was an officer, back then i can leave without paying if I call him and let him talk through the phone, now they are forced to write the name of who doing this and later will be punished
It’s kind of like, if you’re an idiot, yer gonna have a hard time?
Phong cảnh rất đẹp và hùng vĩ , cảm ơn bạn đã chia sẻ video này
It was so so beautiful and for this to only be day one we had high hopes!! Thanks so much for watching the video!!
Any chance you spot some good spots at the peak that might b good for camping?
Oh we didn’t come across any camping sites at all (sorry for the late reply!)
Nice vid! I'm heading up to do this loop in a few weeks and have heard of a few people having issues with these checkpoints. Do you think it might be worth hiring somebody to drive me past the checkpoint area from town to begin with?
If you stay at a hostel in ha giang town the right before there are usually groups leaving in the morning time. The big groups, with easy drivers, don't get stopped so tag on the back of one of them and you should be fine we just got so unlucky and they seen two foreigners coming on bikes so we had no hope ha ha
@@EoinandAisling yeah good idea I'll do that! Thanks very much 😁
By laws, Vietnam requires International Driver license for any tourists in order to drive any motorcycles in Vietnam. Many foreigners (didn't know this or knew but still drive )got into issues like this with Vietnam police. My cousin who is Vietnamese American live in California, he didn't have International driver license and got big fine when driving in the South of Vietnam. Not many foreigners that lucky as you're guys are. So for ALL tourists out there traveling around in Vietnam with motorbike, an international driver license is required or your whole trip be ruined if get caught by the Vietnam police. It's Vietnam's laws and must abide.
Your cousin from the US cannot drive there regardless as most countries have not signed the 1968 Vienna Convention.
I just struggle to believe that people would ride without checking 100% the law regarding riding and licenses. Would you check in America, England, Spain, France? Why would you not investigate this fully in Vietnam and comply with their laws. This information is freely available....... of course you need int drivers permit!
Vietnam has issued a decree (effective since 2015) to legalize the use of an International Driving Permit (IDP) in the country. If you are from a country listed in the 1968 Convention agreement, all you need to do is bring this document and your national driving license with you in case you have to present them to the police and the authorities. You won’t need to convert the license to a Vietnamese license. However, the IDP issued under the 1949 Convention is not recognized in Vietnam, unfortunately.
Make sure you have a motorcycle on your international license though or it's basically toilet paper. The other problem is those international licenses typically expire after 1 year.
You need a Vietnamese drivers license..international is not recognised
Next time you should go to Sapa, Lao Cai. There are world record cable car in Lao Cai
Thank you so much for the recommendation! We know we want to come back again to Vietnam so Sapa is high on the list of places to visit then
Are you scared of heights? I am slightly so im a bit scared about that. Also have you rode before? I havnt so im wondering if ill get the hang of it
We are not scared of heights but I think the views are worth it and you will still enjoy, some of the roads aren’t as narrow and high up as you imagine. And yes we had both rode an automatic before but this was our first time on a semi automatic and thankfully we picked it up quickly
So where are the checkpoints, that someone else had to pass with your bikes first? After those checkpoints, the police leaves you alone?
Great video! Where did you guys started your journey from Hanoi?
Thank you so much! We started from the town of Ha Giang, we took a bus from Hanoi to there
where did you sleep in Ha Giang? and where did you take the bikes? thank you!!!
I completed Ha Giang two weeks back. Bikes I rented from is "QT Motorbikes and tours" and even they have a hostel for stay . There are plenty of other options also available. In fact, most of the hostels and hotels also can provide you with bikes and other logistics.
Cheers
Great video! It's amazing though how many foreigners go to SE East Asia and don't research local laws. I'm Australian, and as such cannot get an international driving permit as a tourist that is recognised in Vietnam. I can ride in Thailand and Cambodia, but not Vietnam or Laos. It's the same for Irish people. Our countries are party to different UN conventions. Companies will sell the permits but that does not mean they are legally recognised in every country. These police were in the right, the riders were lucky that they were happy with a small payment. The other police you passed previously were just lazy. This circumstance was small for the local police. Most importantly if you ride/drive in any country illegally like this your travel insurance will not cover for anything in the event of an accident. No matter how serious the injuries or damage, you need to look out for yourself, as no-one else will. These guys are so lucky they could continue.
Getting the international permit was something we had on our to do list before jetting off but unfortunately got over looked. We will be getting the proper permit when we return home. We know we were very lucky in this situation and able to continue so mainly we wanted to share our experience with other riders/travellers that this can hopefully help them out when planning their Ha Giang trip
@@EoinandAisling A lot of people that go there don't understand the laws...even the cops. Legally, you cannot ride bikes there if you're from the US, Europe, etc. It doesn't matter if you have an international driving permit if the 1968 Vienna Convention wasn't signed between your country and Vietnam. Google it and you will see. You guys were lucky they let you go vs impounding the bikes. Sure, other cops may be more lenient, look the other way, or take bribes, but that doesn't mean you were legally in the right.
@@doodahgurlie Would you mind explaining a bit more, I'm from the UK and it looks like both UK and Vietnam are signed up to the 1968 IDP, so doesn't that mean I can drive/ride in Vietnam whatever I'm licensed in the UK? What's the 'it doesn't matter' bit mean?
@@66TripsLeft Sorry, I probably should have amended that to say the US, Australia, Canada, etc...as those are the peeps riding over there illegally. I'm gonna guess most of Europe is legal per the 1968 Vienna Convention (assuming you're licensed to ride a motorbike in your home country).
@@doodahgurlie ah that makes more sense and hopefully now I have my (UK ) IDP 1968 I'll be riding legally.
Which month is this ?
I passed thru a check point in the middle of the loop. They seemed to only be stopping Vietnamese people. I just causally passed thru and avoided eye contact lol
I heard other foreigners say the same thing. Just keep riding on as they won't chase you down. But know that you are riding there illegally, regardless.
Hwy guys, supposed to do the loop in 2 days and a bit worried now. So is my international driving licence irrelevant for doing the loop?? Also, how was transport from hanoi to ha giang?
Hey, to complete the loop in 2 days would be really hard with super long days driving. I wouldn’t recommend doing it in 2 days because it would take all the fun and enjoyment out of it.
The bus from Hanoi to ha Hiang was decent, we got a night bus which worked out really well. Your international driving permit will be ok. We forgot our permits so that was our issue, so just make sure you have it with you and you should be all good
@@EoinandAisling haha, no I actually meant I will be leaving Hanoi in 2 days time but yes, I think a 2 day loop would be pushing it. Thanks for your reply, I'll go for it!
Your're lucky like no other foreign tourists that you had experience with Vietnam police , so the trip seem to be more interesting.
have a nice adventure 😍
It was definitely an experience haha thank you! Have a good day ☺️
Các bạn Tây đi du lịch Phượt miền núi Hà Giang bằng xe máy là
Vui và tiện lợi đấy . Nhueng can chu ý an toàn giao thông khi đi
Đường và có người dẫn đường mới đảm bảo nhé . Đường núi hà
Giang rất đẹp nhưng khó đi nge
Hello!! We had the best time exploring this very beautiful part of the world
I’m glad I went to the trouble of getting my international motorcycle license.
We have since got ours and life is much easier now
Actually, when you get caught by the cops, just call back to the motobike agency, then they will deal with the cops for you. There is an increasing number of foreign passengers who attending the loop with no international motobike license. It is quite dangerous due to the tough road of the loop. Even the road is being fixed day by day for better travelling but there are still tourists facing accidents. As a result, the local police will be effected badly if there is any accident case of foreigner reported, that is why they are tougher and tougher.
Next time, for the best experience you should change your local motobike license into international one (IDP) and always keep contacting with the motobike agency or hotel.
be safe guys...how are you right now..
Doing great thank you for asking 😊 Hope you have a good day too, keep safe
How do you think you have an IDP but don’t have. I don’t understand
Silly mistake
Nice video and you are both obviously lovely guys. I know Vietnam very well. I suspect your issues with the police were much darker on the basis that you filmed them full face and every word. Would you have done that in Ireland? Discretion is the better part of valor but you had a blast, no one actually got fined, the police were likely provided a present by the guest house and life went on for everyone...
2023 May
Whats the possibility of being stopped ? I only have a NZ driving license
I would say be cautious at any time of year
Vietnam has issued a decree (effective since 2015) to legalize the use of an International Driving Permit (IDP) in the country. If you are from a country listed in the 1968 Convention agreement, all you need to do is bring this document and your national driving license with you in case you have to present them to the police and the authorities. You won’t need to convert the license to a Vietnamese license. However, the IDP issued under the 1949 Convention is not recognized in Vietnam, unfortunately. NZ and Australia are not a part of either agreement.
A lot of people that go there don't understand the laws...even the cops. Legally, you cannot ride bikes there if you're from the US, Europe, etc. It doesn't matter if you have an international driving permit if the 1968 Vienna Convention wasn't signed between your country and Vietnam. Google it and you will see. You guys were lucky they let you go vs impounding the bikes. Sure, other cops may be more lenient, look the other way, or take bribes, but that doesn't mean you were legally in the right.
Generalising Europe is not correct though. I'm from Germany and I have the 1968 International driving license...
@@tolga1cool True, many European countries did sign it (but keep in mind, you still need a motorcycle license from your country to be totally legal/valid along with the IDP). I should have said US, Canada, Australia, etc.
We definitely don't think we were legally in the right and we didn't claim to but when fines of 3 million Dong are thrown out we know the law isn't being followed either
@@doodahgurlie Absolutely! It's no good having a international license that only shows you're allowed to drive a car...
But since I am staying in the country for 5-6 months I'll just get a local license. The process for transcribing your home license to a Vietnamese one is fairly straightforward. Not strictly necessary in my case but also makes for a nice souvenir I guess
@@EoinandAisling I'm not sure the fines, but I was told they were pretty hefty so I am not surprised if it is 3 million dong (which is around $125...still WAY cheaper than fines you'd pay for barely speeding in the US). If they are confiscating your bike and fining you, there would be paperwork and a lot of hassle, which I doubt they want to bother with, which is why they'd rather take a small bribe (which then becomes it's own problem as it's a vicious cycle).
Going to any country and riding a motorcycle you need a licence. We’ve all seen the bloopers of inexperienced people on you’ve been framed. Imagine the cohorts of foreigners turning up and jumping on a bike and hitting the mountain roads. That’s why the police are so heavy on it. The amount of tourists landing, getting on a bike and causing chaos. Vietnam is like no other place I’ve ridden. It’s chaotic and has its own set of rules that you have to adapt to quickly, and I’ve been riding bikes my whole life.
And we completely get that side of it but we’ve been riding bikes for over 2 years now and thankfully never had any incidents. We made sure to get our paperwork in place after this and we are all good for the road
You got bad luck that day, it's true that renting a bike in Vietnam requires a contract, license, and everything in between, just bureaucracy at its best, but most people don't care about the law. The police have a lot of experience with what people usually are mistaken for, so as soon as they saw two foreigners on a motorbike, they're pretty sure you did not have a full-on contract.
They seen an opportunity coming when they saw us but we got out and away free of charge so we were delighted
Most people don't care about having a proper motorcycle driving licence ...
@@EoinandAisling It was a good lesson for you guys for driving in VN without proper papers . You are not above the laws here . Hope now on you will keep that in mind . This policeman was super kind to let you go with no fine
@@hungcuongnguyen293 we do not think we are above the law in any sense. We were very thankful to our rental company for speaking with the officer and letting us off. We know for the future and we will be able to tell other travellers to make sure to have the proper papers. So thankfully we can take something out of the incounter
@@EoinandAisling Before you , many other foreign tourists did the same mistake then argued with the cops and blamed them for fining them with no legit reason . Many foreigners thought that they could do anything they wanted here in VN . I am wondering if they would do the same thing with the police force in their home countries .
Hey, I’ve got my IDP but no stamp for the bike as I don’t have a bike license just car lol. Reckon I’d be okay anyone? From the UK
I would say you should be fine, really they are just looking for the paper copy but just be prepared for the worst
I follow your adventures and misadventures with interest. Dealing with the local police abroad is a real headache, especially when they don't speak English and you don't know a single word of their language, right? I experienced that kind of troubles. Anyway good luck.
Thank you so much for coming along on this wild adventure we are on 😅 there is always something going on haha but we got off lucky enough in the end but we stood our ground and said we weren't paying and thankfully our rental company came to the rescue
Sucks getting fined by police in VN but I always just think about how much that fine would be driving without a proper license in your own country. Usually just showing them you only have 250-500k will do it.
We got away very lucky and learned from our own mistakes so we have our license now and are prepared for any future run ins we may have hah
@@EoinandAislingcould you please tell, if you have a motorcycle license at your home country? I only have car license, is this an issue?
I am a tour guide in Ha Giang and also come from Ha Giang. I'm very happy that you came to visit my hometown, and I'm even more happy to see the motorbike of the company where I work in this video 😁😊
Oh no way! That’s so cool! We loved our stay at the hostel and the bike rental was amazing! We hope to come back some day and we will definitely be coming back to yous!
Which hostel??
@@rahamrahrow1496 Hồng Hào Hostel ❤️😊
The police aren't dicks,but your The one at the wrong. I did the loop but was told my IDP wasn't valid in Vietnam so had to get an easy rider.it was a bomer but that's the law.still had a blast.stay well an enjoy your traveling.
Guys, a little advice if i may. You always carry two wallets. One has your cash and cards in it, that's stashed away somewhere safe. The other has "coffee money" in it. That's the one you present to the police, it might have 500.000 or a million dong. Really just pay the equivalent of 20 to 50 bucks and go on your way. Money talks, bullshit walks. I've ridden and continue to ride all over Vietnam and never had a problem. I guess it also helps my wife is Vietnamese. 🤣
Haha we know this trick all to well and tell anyone we know going to especially Vietnam to have the coffee wallet on them but we have a different name for it haha but I would say you wife is a big helping hand when you get into sticky situations haha
I'm over the top with this trick, I have two pockets with cash in and most of it is hidden away. That I can offer one side and if they say it's not enough I can go to the other pocket. It's all coffee money.
Wait a minute a few questions:
1) Did you have international driving license? What is the best way to get one?
2) Were you fined for not having them?
3) is it just the case to avoid the checkpoints in Ha-Giang and then it's fine after that during the loop?
1/ Vn only accept IDP from foreigner so please check whether your home country also in the IDP group.
2/ If you dont have legal internation license and get caught bythe cops. In this case, just try to contact to the motobike agency or hotel for the best help. The fine could be up to 100usd but the moto ageny can talk to the police to reduce it to 10 or 20 usd. But, you should prepare one, Ha giang loop is not an appropriate route for amature motobiker and put your safety first.
3/ There are some "regular" checkpoints, you can ask the motobike angency for that infor.
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W wydziale komunikacji wyrabiasz 35 pln kosztuje i sa dwie konwencje ta jest chyba Genewska.
When I was in Vietnam riding in Hanoi, police walked onto the road and waved me down to pull over. Instead of slowing down and stopping, i just fully opened the throttle and swerved around him, and well.. That's the end of the story. Nothing happened 😂
😂😂😂 can’t say we weren’t tempted by that option haha
I saw a dui checkpoint in hanoi and many locals were doing the same thing
@philipdupont2308 Lol! Crazily enough I actually met the exact agents you are talking about. I was in Pai with my girlfriend, and we went to the hotsprings. On the way to those hotsprings was that checkpoint. And exactly like you said, they were fully focused only on drugs. They searched the scooter and our backpacks and stuff, but I didn't have anything. I can't believe you even attempted to drive away from them 😂 In Vietnam the police are hard to take seriously, but when I saw the intensity of that checkpoint with like 5 or 6 special forces agents, I would have stopped even if I did have drugs.
Thus was back in late 2019. Crazy to think that if I had weed on me back then I would have gone to a Thai prison, but now it's completely legal.
the police fine you?
Not in the end our rental company helped us out
@@EoinandAisling thanks god
Bạn có bằng lái xe thì bạn có thể đi bất kì đâu (nhớ tuân thủ luật giao thông nhé không nên đi quá nhanh)
That's what we think too, as long as you have your drivers licence and drive safely you aren't hurting anyone
Imagine a Vietnamese coming to your country without correct license & rode
It was an error on our behalf and we got it sorted after this incident
Research a Countries laws before you visit. The police are not being dicks for doing what they are paid to do, you are being dicks for not researching it. Try driving about in your home country without a valid licence and see what happens. That said glad it all worked out for you.
Vietnam has issued a decree (effective since 2015) to legalize the use of an International Driving Permit (IDP) in the country. If you are from a country listed in the 1968 Convention agreement, all you need to do is bring this document and your national driving license with you in case you have to present them to the police and the authorities. You won’t need to convert the license to a Vietnamese license. However, the IDP issued under the 1949 Convention is not recognized in Vietnam, unfortunately.
công an giao thông việt nam ăn hiếp làm luật ăn tiền của người nức ngoài, thật quá đáng, tình trạng này xảy ra rất nhiều, bạn có quyền quay video lại
I am glad I had the camera on my shoulder because it was the only reason we got out of the huge 'fine' they were asking for
Amazing views! A shame about the police stopping you guys. Probably to get some money out of you? Even though they didn’t just want to fine you.
It was absolutely stunning once we got on the road haha the police were trying their very hardest to get some money but thankfully it all worked out okay for us in the end
Hey foreigners ! Never ever think you are above the laws in our country ( or any other countries in the world ) . This good policeman just did his job and did not even want any bribe from those tourist drivers . At the end , that couple were very lucky to be forgiven for their mistake . Hope from now on they will always keep that lesson in mind
@@hungcuongnguyen293tell that to the Africans raping and stabbing Europeans
I understand being young and dumb -- been there done that. But, riding illegally, no insurance (since illegal) and you call the police dicks? Most countries you would have bike taken and be in front of a judge to determine your penalty.
We didn’t call them anything, we just knew the money was going in their back pockets and the actual law wasn’t being followed. And we put our hands up we know we were in the wrong and since then have got all the paperwork and licenses we need that this will never happen again
What is this language?
English? 😅
So 1500000 dong is the bribe rate. Good to know. I'll be carrying a extra wallet.
Always good information to know haha
Nó quá nhiều 😂 bình thường bạn hối lộ họ chỉ cần 200000 đồng 😂 chúc bạn may mắn 😂
Yes as they are not doing their job they need to be paid for that risk. It’s reasonable
@@EoinandAislingChỉ cần đưa 200.000 đồng cho cảnh sát là có thể đi 😂
Thanks for the video, but to call people 'dicks' for simply doing their job is a bit much. You should have read up about this, it's not their fault you gVebt informed yourself. Also, keep in mind intercultural differences, what sometimes is considered as rude in western countries, isn't meant to be rude at all in South east asia ;)
Hey Barbara, completely understand everything you’re saying but we never used that word. Not once, we put our hands up. We were misinformed but they were also looking a lot of back pocket money which even though we know this is a thing in SEA, this was on another level. It was a learning curve and we got our licenses asap after this incident so thankfully won’t run into situations like this again … hopefully lol
1,500,000??? Such a rip off! 2-300,000 is normal
It was mental what they were looking!
@@EoinandAisling Yeah, I know they can be pretty intimidating depending on hunger. 🤷🏼♂️ I got pulled over 4 times on my ride from Hanoi to Hà Giang. Didn't have to pay anything. A good advice is too learn how to say "I don't understand" - in French, Finish what ever as long as you don't understand British in any way or form, play def 😅
When I went to Cát bà I had to pay 300.000 plus 400.000 1km further down the road, mainly because my Vietnamese girlfriend was rude to him, oh and the 80km too 🥴 I love driving in Vietnam and especially in Hà Nội!
It’s because they had the damn camera on. 😂
shame on that policeman being a killjoy,,😡😡 anyway i hope the stunning view did justice for you guys.. ❤️🇵🇭
The views made up for all the mishaps in the morning and we were so glad to be on the road! Thanks for watching and hello all the way to the Philippines 💛
That policeman just did his job . All foreigners should know that driving in VN or any other countries in the world , they need to have proper driving licenses ( international or local ) and ownership cards . They are not above the laws here just because they are white tourists . Also never ever think that policemen in VN are easy to bribe . Eoin and Aisling were lucky that at the end this kind policeman did not impound their scooters and let them off this time . Hope they will keep that lesson in mind
@@hungcuongnguyen293 yes, the policeman is quite kind, in other situation, they can take the scooter and wait for the owner of the scooter to do all the legal process.
you're clueless about the laws. It's Vietnam's laws j(ust like any other countries in the world) that required all foreigners tourists to have an international driving license. This policeman was way way too nice, and kind. Most cases like this, will end up with huge fine, not to mention high chance of spending a whole day in police jail. No one above laws, regardless tourists, foreigners, westerners or the locals. Must abide with the laws.
Vietnam is a country with laws! When you don't have a driver's license, you are at fault. Don't be stupid to see the Vietnamese police as corrupt and think they need your money.
As far as I know, driving a motorbike in Vietnam is quite simple, you need an international permit paper. If you have that and do not violate any law, I'm sure the police cannot do anything. The traffic police cannot impound the bike if you rent it.
Only countries who are part of 1968 convention can legally drive with IDP. US and Canada for instance are 1949 convention only so not legal. And you also need a motorcycle endorsement on IDP/home license.
Vietnam has issued a decree (effective since 2015) to legalize the use of an International Driving Permit (IDP) in the country. If you are from a country listed in the 1968 Convention agreement, all you need to do is bring this document and your national driving license with you in case you have to present them to the police and the authorities. You won’t need to convert the license to a Vietnamese license. However, the IDP issued under the 1949 Convention is not recognized in Vietnam, unfortunately.
Long story short was long
That’s an Irish thing haha
International driving licenses are no good in Vietnam. You must have a TRC to get a Vietnamese driving license. To get a TRC you must be married to a Vietnamese national or hold a work permit and be working for a sponser in Vietnam. Then if you work here, you need to purchase Vietnam health insurance which is a law, and before that, you must have home country and Vietnam background checks and have all your documents legalized, translated and stamped. Or, you can ride a 50 cc motobike after purchasing mandatory motorbike insurance for Vietnam. You cannot come here and just ride a moto over 50cc around Vietnam. The traffic police can fine you, impound your moto, and even deport you if they want. So, don't believe therVietnam travel videos that make motobike travel glorious in Vietnam.
Kudo for not bribing the cops
We stood our ground and thankfully it worked out
@Eoin and Aisling yes vietnam has laws. If we don't give and follow all official procedures, we can stop the bribery problem. Bribery usually happens when we are willing to pay to take the shortcut. Have fun in Vietnam and don't forget to get an international driver license next time.
It's at the top of our list for our next visit haha and we are sharing the word with anyone we know thats going to Vietnam now haha
베트남의 저런 쓰레기 경찰들 때문에 방문할 필요가 없어.... 베트남 경찰은 외국인들이 돈이 많다는걸 알고있다.
We still loved Vietnam it was just something we had to be very aware of because unlike what they think, not all foreigners have money haha
We still loved Vietnam it was just something we had to be very aware of because unlike what they think, not all foreigners have a lot money haha
$$$ amateur
I am Vietnamese and my country welcomes you to travel and explore, but if you intend to invade or bring bombs to Vietnam, please stop thinking that. Thank
We only want to travel and explore with good and positive vibes ☺️