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Non-Tallow Lubes for Black Powder Revolvers : 3 Types
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- Опубліковано 17 лют 2021
- Making 3 Types of Lube for C&P Revolvers!
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The fact that there are so many recipes suggests that you can pretty much use anything.
The best thing on Black Powder Lube is the different choices to be made, I have used bees wax, gulf wax and lard mix. Bear Fat, Lambs Tallow, Buffalo Tallow, Olive Oil (I like the Bear Fat also) just so much to chose from that works well, I have heard, read and seen Murphy`s Oil Soap used in lubes. So many different recipes none are wrong (except bacon grease someone slipped, forgot about the salt) Even then in a pinch bacon grease will work, clean excessively after, But knowing if I had to may not be greatest choice, if none other available, it will work.
i've used wax toilet seal rings! works pretty good. I've also used large veterinary syringes to apply it. just heat it until it's fairly drippy, pour it into the syringe and seal it with the plunger. you might have to ream out the head where the needle normally goes but the plastic is soft.
Interesting, basically melting the wax then?
I did 35/35/35 of pure beeswax, crisco, and olive oil in a small crockpot set on low which is 200° and for a little added zing I put some mint food flavoring in for a very pleasant smell. Makes great chapstick too, wife loves it lol.
That sounds like a good idea, thanks.
You have to use weight not volume
I tend to stay away from Crisco as a black powder lube, but when I make lube out of bees wax and lard or tallow I add a bit of dish soap or a piece of bar soap. This helps with clean up and keeps the fouling softer so if your Remington style revolver binds you can lower the loading lever, pull the cylinder pin (leave the cylinder in place) and push it back in and go on shooting. I enjoy your videos, thank you for making them.
I like that idea of adding soap to thw lube. Thinking about trying that when I make some lube with lard/tallow. Also, I am happy you are enjoying my videos, thank you.
Why no crisco?
@@dwilliams6642 It really is not that good a bullet lube. It can sometimes give a hard fouling that is difficult to remove, and in the case of a '58 Remington style revolver the fouling can bind the cylinder after firing a few cylinders full. Lard or tallow work much better.
Cheap candle wax and Vaseline is a very easy and effective method. It dissolves the black powder residue making it softer without reacting with it to make it more corrosive in any way
I always use a pop cycle stick to add my lube. I just prefer to make wads or paper cartridges.
Yeah, I just make wads now, so much easier to load.
Lambs tallow is the best. For my bullet dipping on my conical balls or for my combustable paper cartridges I use a 50/50 bees wax and lambs tallow. The consistency of that mix is like a softer wax and adheres to the bullet well.
Stay away from non rendered beef or pork fat as they are high in salt content.
If you plan on keeping your revolver loaded for a long period of time, just place a thin carboard wad over the powder before adding your felt wonder wad. It will keep the powder dry and won't allow any extraneous grease from fouling the powder charge.
Everyone swears by Lamb Tallow. Might have to order some to make the lube. Also like your cardboard idea. I do not use lube or lubricated wads when the revolver is kept loaded for the reason you listed. However, the cardboard should solve that issue and will begin using it. Thank you!
i've always used my fingers for plugging the cylinders with lube. Alittle messy,but wipes off easily
Try using a popsicle stick. They're available in craft stores. The knife may damage the the guns finish over time.
Greasing chamber mouths is unnecessary, and messy. In nearly 40 years and many thousands of rounds I have never greased a chamber mouth. If your projectiles are correct size and chambers truly round there's no issue. Back in the 1800s no one did this..... too messy for a carry gun.
@@KathrynLiz1 I agree! I can only imagine the mess this lube would make in a holster on a hot day.
I had my grandkids save me a few popsicle sticks to apply lube. I keep a few in the BP range bag.
Great video. Thank you
Thank you!
Olive oil makes fouling nice and soft. It will allways cause fliers.
Vaseline works really well too with beeswax.... Basically all BP lubes are beeswax... the oil/talllow/whatever is just to soften the wax. It's the beeswax that does the bizzo...
I started out mixing beeswax with vaseline, when I first bought a Snider many years ago. Long since abandoned it in favour of various oils, canola, olive, coconut… The vaseline had a tendency to make the fouling harden up. The best mix I found was beeswax and Ballistol, but that gets a bit expensive…
Very good video, very informative.
Thank you!
my mix is a 40:60 tallow rendered from beef kidney fat and beeswax. Kidney fat tallow is very hard and makes a stiff mix. iIn the past I have tried several types of oil but find it sweats out of wads and makes a wet mess. But thanks for the ideas i may try them.
Probably going to try and make one later from Tallow, but figure I would try these first. Thanks for Watching and hope these ideas work out for you.
Go to Amazon for lamb's tallow. My mix is 50% beeswax/paraffin and 50% lamb's tallow. Good luck!
I will check it out, thanks!
Good video! I prefer tallow as it has a much higher melting point than pork fat (Crisco), olive oil, or any other short-chain saturated fat. Just collect your hamburger fat or see if you can get some beef trimmings from your butcher. I tried the over-ball lube method, and found that even with beef tallow/beeswax, I had a lot of fat run down the cylinder and toward the handle. I either use homemade "wonder wads" or run a lubed up swab down the bore every cylinder.
I was thinking about trying some type of animal fat, but the wads are so much easier. Planning on buying the punches to make my own in the future. It just so much easier and cleaner. Thanks for watching!
Popsicle stick works good
Sweet! I am currently waiting on some non-lube wads right now to used all of these to make lubricated wads. Didn't like the mess😃
These also work amaxing for dry cracked hands in the winter. Except i use pure almond oil instead of olive oil.
I use just crisco very easy clean up
The only thing I worry about just using crisco is the low melting point. It's hot here 🔥
crisco separates when it's hot. yucchh!
I just use my finger-tip.
That probably will be easier than the knife, thank you!
Hey dude. I mix it to where you can kinda break it up with your hand. Then i break off a little ball the right size and just put it in with my finger. Very easy.
A disposable plastic knife works well -- no scratches
Yeah that was cringe lol
I use a popsicle stick. I would never use a metal knife, it was hard to watch
What you're making is pan lube. It's supposed to be melted in a pan with boolits inside then the boolits are plucked out. These are firm lubes for that purpose. The way you're using it, you should just use pure Crisco. There's no need to firm it up with the wax. It only makes it harder to put into the chambers.
Thanks for the information!
Yeah.. straight crisco.. so it melts out of the cylinders while your gun is in your holster lol. You WANT a firm higher melting point lube for over cylinder lubricant. So it doesn't melt in your holster
@@nsboost You must have a really hot holster if you're melting Crisco in it. Not many people carry these, for range use Crisco is fine. For field use I put a hard card on top of the powder then lube under the ball. It won't come out. Or better yet use a pre lubed conical.
Thanks a bunch!
No problem, I will be doing an update video using weight instead. I recommend doing the same.
I use hamburger fat. I have 4 kids, often family over. A lot of hamburger helper, cheeseburgers ect so I end up with a lot of beef fat in a years time.
I use the Gato Feo mix, 1, 1 and 1/2 ratio. I had 4 pounds of fat, 4 pounds of canning wax and my bee keeper uncle gave me 2 pounds of bees wax. Fired up the crock pot used to make soap and made 10 pounds of lube. I should be good for the rest of my life.
Makes great lube for grease grooves, great lube for greased felt wads (mostly what I do as did the shooters of the 1880's) and great as a grease cookie.
10 pounds of lube, you should be good 😂. At some point I will probably use some type of fat, thanks for the idea.
1) That's knife abuse! I hope that isn't a real 110 Buck. Why do you think they invented Popsicle sticks? Or fingers?
2) The second and third lubes are on the soft side because you used a volumetric measure for the bees wax. Since it is in kernels, there are air spaces in the cup so you don't get the full 1/4 cup of wax. It probably makes no difference in effectiveness but you may be able to tell the difference in feel.
Nice demonstration.
Shooting blanks is a waste of time..accuracy ??
Out of curiosity, what's causing the 'PEW' sound? Is that just the capture range of the equipment being used?
To be honest, I have no idea. Kinda like a Star Wars pistol. Could be what I use in my blanks, or just my recording equipment ($100 Smart Phone, lol).
Question is does it get runny in hot weather?
I haven't had a hot day here since I made them. So can't really answer that question at this time.
If it gets hot and runny, add more bees wax. I found a 50/50 mix is quite firm and works well for felt wads. It is a bit too hard to use over the cylinders.
To make it softer for smearing on the cylinder face, use more lambs tallow or coconut oil anfd a small amount of olive oil....makes it softer and smooth. It will lower the melting point in hot weather.
Yes, all 3 of these lubes will run out the cylinders in hot Texas heat 90+...Lamb tallow/beeswax is the way to go. If your loading and shooting at the range they are fine but if your loading and sitting in the car for a week youll need to leave the oils out. Just my experience
Why nobody uses pig grease ?
From what I heard, people don't use it as much because of a higher salt content and it tends to go bad faster.
What about beeswax plus pure lanolin?
Can beef tallow, pork lard, bear fat, palm oil, and soy wax be used?
You have to either get rendered beef fat from the butcher or melt it down yourself and skim off the top and pour it through a cloth to remove any salt and waste particulate from the melted down lard.
Popsicle stick
Thank you!
Is that an 'old timer' knife..i miss mine
Lol, just my old Buck Knife.
Never use a knife on your gun !!! Try a tongue depressor /popsicle stik !!
Just what exactly do you think crisco is made out of? Maybe animal fat of some sort? LoL
I thought it was vegetable oil, lol
Most I've seen use their finger
Thanks
Popsicle stick