Francis has basically stolen our Church, and is remaking it whatever he wants. Jesus, Scriptures, what the Saints left us makes no difference to him. People need to see and acknowledge what he is doing.
I have stolen It back, and so, I hope, have you! This wicked incubus can change nothing except the depth and the extent of his firey punishment in Hell, which he is doing with great alacrity and unexampled zeal!
O Lord our God we know the state of Your holy church and how we are suffering with all the wrong ideas spread among us and how these so-called are instructing to move the holy church catholic whom You died on the holy Cross to save us and how these people are ignoring all what You taught us and directed us to perdition--Lord have mercy on us and come to our rescue.
@@michaelspeyrer1264 Nice gaslighting try. Unfortunately for you this man in Vatican went so far off Catholic basic orthodoxy that your popesplaining attempts are just plain and simple grotesque.
@@TheMeaningofCatholic No one can judge the Pope, so he is the Pope, yet at least some of his teachings are not Catholic and his pontificate brings nothing but destruction to the Church, so he clearly lost his authority. Pope in name only seems to me like obvious conclusion.
Good grief Mr. Flanders! You just don’t look old enough at all to have a daughter who is old enough to get married. I’ve literally thought you were about 28-30 years old. Congratulations.
I don’t think I agree with the distinction you make between private and public judgment. What exactly is the difference between someone looking through past church documents to judge the magisterium’s catholicity and the Protestants looking to scripture to judge the magisterium’s Christianity? All of the above are “public”. When one says “private judgment” is not the distinction actually between laity and clergy? Where the laity’s judgment is “private”? This I think lies at the heart of the criticisms of having so many social media accounts constantly reacting and judging the magisterium and the Pope, particularly when these social media personalities have so much influence. It seems to destroy the clergy/laity distinction. It also seems like a disorder in the hierarchical sense of the church to hold the position that so many members of the laity have the rightful place to make such huge judgments against the magisterium.
There is a big difference. It is presupposed that the magisterium can communicate to the faithful What is the faith According to the public judgment of the church. This is entirely different than the protestants private judgment of the holy Scriptures. Flanders.
@@TheMeaningofCatholicI am not sure how that addresses my disagreement. Let me put it this way using “no salvation outside the church”. If I hold to a belief that runs contrary to the most recent magisterial development of that theology based on how I interpret some previous document, then I am in error if I do not submit to the magisterium. This is where I think private and public has a reasonable distinction, that is laity (private), magisterium (public). That is really the contention with Protestantism. The role of magisterium collapses to the laity, ultimately. So if I reject the Catechism and Vatican 2 because of how I interpret something in the past then I put the magisterium on trial and that is disordered in the order of ecclesial authority. It’d be like my children stepping into my role as a parent and parenting me.
Its such a pity that such intelligence is displayed without research. As a Catholic i knew about lumen gentium since its establishment in 1965. Yet you make as if Pope Francis is the first to use such terms. Its a real shame that so many "Catholics" openly criticise the Holy Father. It a real shame...
Francis has basically stolen our Church, and is remaking it whatever he wants. Jesus, Scriptures, what the Saints left us makes no difference to him. People need to see and acknowledge what he is doing.
I have stolen It back, and so, I hope, have you! This wicked incubus can change nothing except the depth and the extent of his firey punishment in Hell, which he is doing with great alacrity and unexampled zeal!
After 11 years as Pope the number of dogmas Pope Francis has changed 0. False accusations of heresy from fake catholic protestants, lost count!
This is how Protestants think and behave.
It’s a good thing Christ is the head of the Church and Pope Francis is merely his vicar! Flanders.
Are you serious there is no way he is Catholic
It appears that you hold a particular Sententia among several traditional Catholic opinions on the subject. Flanders.
There’s no such thing as a non-Catholic pope. Francis isn’t Catholic therefore he’s not the pope
Your position on the pope is heretical and contradicted by both the 8h ecumenical council and Vatican I, therefore, you are a Protestant.
It appears that you hold a particular Sententia among several traditional Catholic opinions on the subject. Flanders.
Not the first heresy of this pontificate. I am numb to them now.
I’m numb to all the Protestant fake Catholics. If wish they would just declare themselves the Lutherans they already act as.
Q: Is he Catholic?
A: Not by any stretch.
"We have a non-Catholic pope."
Arch Bishop Vigano
There is no such thing. But we do have a non-Catholic antipope and have had once since Frater Roncalli.
Vigano is no Bishop, and no Catholic
@@haronsmith8974who made you god to say who is and isn’t catholic or a prelate. Shame on you. Maybe you aren’t catholic
No such thing.
Says they guy excommunicated by the Pope.
O Lord our God we know the state of Your holy church and how we are suffering with all the wrong ideas spread among us and how these so-called are instructing to move the holy church catholic whom You died on the holy Cross to save us and how these people are ignoring all what You taught us and directed us to perdition--Lord have mercy on us and come to our rescue.
Pope in name only.
Catholic in name only. Say hi to the Lutherans for us.
@@michaelspeyrer1264 Nice gaslighting try. Unfortunately for you this man in Vatican went so far off Catholic basic orthodoxy that your popesplaining attempts are just plain and simple grotesque.
It appears that you hold a particular Sententia among several traditional Catholic opinions on the subject. Flanders.
@@TheMeaningofCatholic No one can judge the Pope, so he is the Pope, yet at least some of his teachings are not Catholic and his pontificate brings nothing but destruction to the Church, so he clearly lost his authority. Pope in name only seems to me like obvious conclusion.
PINO...cchio...❤😅 agree
Yes, the Pope is Catholic.. but Francis isn’t the Pope.
Whaaaaaaat? 😳
And you aren’t catholic, cause you can’t be a Protestant and in communion with the Catholic Church at the same time.
It appears that you hold a particular Sententia among several traditional Catholic opinions on the subject. Flanders.
Heretic? antipope?
It appears that you hold a particular Sententia among several traditional Catholic opinions on the subject. Flanders.
Good grief Mr. Flanders! You just don’t look old enough at all to have a daughter who is old enough to get married. I’ve literally thought you were about 28-30 years old. Congratulations.
I am a bit older than that
I don’t think I agree with the distinction you make between private and public judgment. What exactly is the difference between someone looking through past church documents to judge the magisterium’s catholicity and the Protestants looking to scripture to judge the magisterium’s Christianity? All of the above are “public”.
When one says “private judgment” is not the distinction actually between laity and clergy? Where the laity’s judgment is “private”? This I think lies at the heart of the criticisms of having so many social media accounts constantly reacting and judging the magisterium and the Pope, particularly when these social media personalities have so much influence. It seems to destroy the clergy/laity distinction. It also seems like a disorder in the hierarchical sense of the church to hold the position that so many members of the laity have the rightful place to make such huge judgments against the magisterium.
All that is is just an excuse to justify their schismatic protestant behavior.
There is a big difference. It is presupposed that the magisterium can communicate to the faithful What is the faith According to the public judgment of the church. This is entirely different than the protestants private judgment of the holy Scriptures. Flanders.
@@TheMeaningofCatholicI am not sure how that addresses my disagreement. Let me put it this way using “no salvation outside the church”. If I hold to a belief that runs contrary to the most recent magisterial development of that theology based on how I interpret some previous document, then I am in error if I do not submit to the magisterium. This is where I think private and public has a reasonable distinction, that is laity (private), magisterium (public). That is really the contention with Protestantism. The role of magisterium collapses to the laity, ultimately.
So if I reject the Catechism and Vatican 2 because of how I interpret something in the past then I put the magisterium on trial and that is disordered in the order of ecclesial authority. It’d be like my children stepping into my role as a parent and parenting me.
No he is not Catholic.
Sorry incorrect Protestant’
It appears that you hold a particular Sententia among several traditional Catholic opinions on the subject. Flanders.
Oi ! What a question - after all this !
Its such a pity that such intelligence is displayed without research. As a Catholic i knew about lumen gentium since its establishment in 1965. Yet you make as if Pope Francis is the first to use such terms. Its a real shame that so many "Catholics" openly criticise the Holy Father. It a real shame...
What happened? Why did it end so abruptly?
You have to subscribe to get the full podcast see the links in the show description. Flanders.
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12:05 “read classic catholic works”….you mean like Pastor Aeternis,
which contradicts you?
It appears that you hold a particular Sententia among several traditional Catholic opinions on the subject. Flanders.
Sounds like your own personal reading of Pastor Aeternis.
Short answer, no!
Apostate.
Francis is a heretic
Says the Protestant with no authority to make the declaration in violation of Vatican I.
It appears that you hold a particular Sententia among several traditional Catholic opinions on the subject. Flanders.
No!
Then who is the Pope? How can you have the Catholic Church without the Pope?
@@StoaoftheSouthChrist is head of the church.
@@redsorgum And the Pope isn't?