Wow, these arc cards are more tempting by the day, kudos to intel for pushing more on driver optimizations! This card would be useful for low end PCs or media use.
You did some great work then, I have owned multiple of those CPU's from Prescott to Haswell. Starting with a Prescott P4, moving to an Ivy Bridge i3 and then building my own PC with the Haswell i7 4770K with GTX 970 I still use to this day. I can confirm through my mutual friends that my particular 4770K has survived 4 owners (I'm the 4th) and still runs 4.2 GHz at 1.25 V with 0 issues nearly 10 years later. That must've been a cool place to work. I would buy an ARC GPU immediately if my PC's Z97 motherboard had good enough PCI-E to take advantage of it but i'd be leaving some performance on the table. Thanks for the work on all those awesome CPU's!
@@OugaBoogaShockwave Nah the 4770K is a thing, it was the 1st version of the i7 4790K with slightly less clock speed but everything else is identical as far as I know. The 4770K was 2013 and the 4790K was 2014. Haswell and Haswell Refresh.
@@judasthepious1499I think it’s just not very exciting to most people, and like the other replied said the gain % is more or less the same across the skus.
... yeah "competent" , not yet , Intel need 2 generation to compete as equal with AMD , and I doubt Intel will take lead from Nvidia , just look net worth of 3 companies : Intel - 130B$ AMD - 139B$ Nvidia - 680B$ ... and money are important as , money research new tech , so Intel is on level of AMD ... and they are not competent as any player with limited budget grad AMD , because AMD is competent , Nvidia is best out there , and Intel they want to grab part of market , and me as a consumer would not risk and buy Intel GPU , as I dont want to fight with tech and hope Intel will write good drivers ! , if Intel was competent , working drivers would be there allready ...
@@adammarcinkowski-ko3el Whichever is the cheapest and gets the job done is fine for the majority of people. Nvidia is too expensive for what they're worth and AMD drivers are even messier at launch. Intel has a good chance of being the choice for the average budget gamer who won't spend more than $300 on a card.
@@eddiew.4650 I wish Intel well , but that will take time , honestly I am on market for new PC , I have budget , and in that budget I could buy cheap GPU and play CP2077 medium in 1080 I am ok with that , but there is also fact that right now there is plenty used cheap GPU , I can spend 250$ for new gpu ... or I can spend 100$ for RX580 that will handle games as well , or 110$ Vega 64 that will run CP2077 , high settings , 1080p in 60fps ... so now immagine how someone who know a bit about PC have buget would but unproved Intel GPU ... I honestly dunno if in 10 years Intel will still make gpu ...
On the one hand yes intel didn’t actually have to update drivers but also if they didn’t they’d never catch on in the gpu market so it’s to be expected
I think I've been using the Intel Arc A380 for about 2 months and considering my r9 fury was dying, It has been a wonderful card to use, although I wish it was more powerful
tbf A380 was launched as an budget gaming card Glad it is serving you well though. We have an A770 and it's been great, seems if you use ARC with a quality display in a modern system for typical stuff; it's mostly trouble free. Whenever I see people with ARC issues, seems +90% of the time it's them, not the card who is at fault. Putting arc in an ancient pc, using a dodgy old lcd with bad hdmi/dp adherence; trying to do some really contrived neckbeard software stuff that's a B to get working even ideally. The fact they complain after making their own bed is lol.
@@anasevi9456but if that’s something other cards can do and they can’t do it on the arc that’s still a legitimate complaint, even if it affects a small number of people.
This surprises me. Like a lot. Like a lot of lot ! Maybe a head-to-head battle between the A380, RX6400 and the GTX 1630. These cards cost the exact same (Here in Hungary at least). That could be an interesting Intel win maybe?
I'd say buy this card instead of the other 2, especially if you have newer hardware with rebar, the 1630 is garbage that can barely run any game with that price point, and the RX 6400 is actually not that but the fact that you'd lost performance if you don't use pcie 4.0 is pretty bad, also you cant even record cause the card don't got no HW encoder, or you can go to used market and buy the Rx 580 or even the 5700 xt which is pretty damn good too for under 200$
At this price point for a new card I actually think intel wins easily. It 100% isn’t the 1630 and the 6400xt is both more expensive and simply not a good product, 4gb of vram is rough in 2023. The cheapest new amd card worth buying rn is the rx 6600, any lower and your making very large concessions in both performance and features for very small money savings
@@DeepfriedBeans4492 One point in favor of the 6400 is the fact that there's a single-slot low-profile version. Until a slot-powered version arrives, the 6400 will have that over the A380.
It's great to see you are still doing what you started out doing and better! When you were given a 4070 to test by nvidia, and deservadly so. I was worried for a moment.I thought you were going in another direction. Glad to see you are based 👍. Love these, keep them coming.
He has done higher end gpu videos plenty of times in the past he just does more budget stuff over all, nothing ever changed or was different in the 4070 video.
When watching other people review games and hardware one can get the impression that even the best hardware is inadequate. It's good to see that modestly priced new hardware can do well.
I originally got this card months ago as a sort of neat collectors item because, lets be honest, its funny that this thing exists at all. It actually saved me when my RX 6600 XT randomly died on me one morning and I used the A380 for a while before building my new PC recently. The improvements with drivers with time was really nice as well along with the AV1 compatibility when I had to do video related work not realizing how great that is at the time. The very low power draw and low heat was just a bonus. Very glad I got this card.
@@defuncthusky6649 At some point in time I did. It helped with 1% lows by a fair amount, but little or negligible improvement elsewhere by like a few frames. I didn't test a lot of games with it overclocked though. Despite this, I'm glad I had the A380 on hand when my last GPU died on me. It basically played everything I had at 1080p low.
I'd love to see some analysis of its hardware encoding/decoding performance for both AV1 and older video codecs - I'm maintaining a GPUless AM5 system for video editing, the A380 would essentially be an accelerator and enable less casual gaming.
At that point you should check out the gtx 1650 super which cost almost the same, and if you got a few hundred bucks left, should check out thr rtx 3050 which is power efficient and also relatively fast for workload
Maybe I missed a mention but I feel the A380 has a solid place as a cheap AV1 and h264 encoder if you want to stream or record. It has the same Media engine as the more expensive Arc cards
Yay, I was hoping you'd go back to Arcs soon after such big recent improvments :3! I'd love an A380 to tinker with, but hard to justify when I already have an A770 16GB card X3
As soon as they establish themselves in the discrete GPU market, they'll jack up the price (just like AMD cpus after the first 2 zen generations) and then there will be no value options at all.
Рік тому+1
They will keep selling cheap processors without video
I would love to see direct comparisons to similarly priced options PLEASE! Within the range of $150 and below would be great for the very low budget consumers out there.
I bought this same card for my windows based plex server for av1 stuff. It is a good performer for that but I feel I get less gaming performance than you because I have it in a pcie 3.0 machine. But it still works decently.
these arc cards are already amazing first gen, by the time i upgrade next (probably another 2 - 3 years) i wouldn't be surprised if i ended up picking an intel card instead of amd or nvidia
This GPU is actually surprising me w8th it’s current performance 💪🥰after initial launch being really bad on the A380😂. Great to see the performance increase and a price drop on this GPU 🥰🥳👍
@@juser-abuser lol just say that you have no idea what you are talking about. The Arc A380 even beats the ryzen 5700g which is currently amds best APU (CPU with integrated graphics) APU Graphic units have to access "normal" RAM which significant slower than VRAM. Even the Vega 11 (ryzen 3000gs) gets demolished by the ARC.
@@mr.cookie8265 Lol, you are clearly don't know what are you talking about. Current AMD's igpu is 680m which is available in ryzen 6/7 series and beats your pathetic a380 in all tests. In fact 680m is faster by 170%.
@@juser-abuser you are comparing a laptop igpu to a pc gpu. Also an APU and an iGPU arent the same. If you want a device with a 680m you have to pay at least 1000$. while the arc a380 costs about 150$. Let me guess, you are also comparing modern iphones with 2016 low tier androids ? edit: the cheapest laptop with a 680m i could find is the Lenovo IdeaPad 5 Pro 16 which costs 999 bucks. for that money you can get a very good pc with a real gpu.
As long as Intel keep putting in the work, I think they will be quite competitive with AMD and Nvidia in a few years time. I'm not Intel's biggest fan, but I will definitely consider them for my next GPU if they continue this trend of improving performance.
Intel have the best budget CPUs and Currently they have the best budget gpus. I am now intel's biggest fan and I lost a lot of respect for amd specially in 2022-23. For Nvidia I consider them just pure evil
Recommended it over the RX 6400... 8 lanes and 6GB (not 4 lanes and 4GB). On top of that all modern encoders/decoders. My friend was happy and it's good to see it improve further.
I don't know about wine considering how bad these cards were at launch, but they are finally reaching a driver refinement level on par with 2015 era Radeon GPUs. These aren't really gaming GPUs anyway. They're good for the encoders more than anything else.
If Intel were to fit the iGPUs that performs similar to Arc A380 rather than the current Iris Xe graphics into the next 14th & 15th desktop chipset generation, that would be a steal. Aside from better cooling fans, those chipsets (if it comes true) would be a nice stopgap before buying a more powerful graphics card.
14th gen Meteor Lake will have 128EU iGPU, which is the same specs as a A380. The boost frequency will be even higher than A380 but the ram bandwidth will be limited by LPDDR5. So it's hard to tell but it is fair to assume similar performance at low resolution
I got served this video after making a comment on another video today about the A380. Apparently UA-cam is always listening. Overall nice review. Thanks for the update.
Nice to see a review like this considering the exploding prices of GPUs from the big players. Sometimes we prefer a small and convenient sized build with compact components that don't feature a 3 slot thick, foot long GPU.
I'm curious if you can run it alongside a more capable GPU as strictly a encoder for AV1 for streaming. For me that would be a good value drop-in upgrade rather than moving to a latest gen card that otherwise won't be a discernable FPS upgrade over what I've already got.
I dont think game optimization is getting worse. We're finally feeling the full impact of next gen consoles and Unreal Engine 5. Games are no longer previous gen stuff rendered at higher resolutions. Low settings on some of these games look like ultra settings from just 3-4 years ago.
6 months later, I’m considering this card. 120 at microcenter, and to have 6gb of gddr6 vram it’s intriguing. I’m working on a sff build, so I figured this would be great.
I don't even play Doom Eternal, but I think you should add it to the game benchmarks just to show people how well optimised it is, like Forza Horizon 5.
These numbers are comparable to what I was getting, in the titles shown that were available at the time, with a low-profile 1060 that had 3GB of VRAM and a faster memory bus. But a price more comparable to the 1060 with 6GB of VRAM. There does appear to be a use case here as a GPU for small form factor PCs like a used Dell OptiPlex, as the A380 is comparatively small and power-efficient. And I'm tempted to get one to drop in one of my old media center boxes to try out one of Intel's cards.
@@Loundsify The 1060 did. The A380 appears to be available from different Intel partners with higher or lower clock speeds and power requirements. So depending on the make, it could require a 6-pin or 8-pin connector, or only the power from the PCIE slot.
One thing to keep in mind is that Intel does recommend to use their ARC GPUs with ReBAR capable systems, this could prove to be problematic when matching them with an old OptiPlex (ReBar is supported on Zen 2 and newer on AMD and Comet Lake and newer on Intel)
I got one about 4 months ago for my HTPC and didn't expect for it to play AAA games or fast paced shooters. I just only recently installed it as the GTX 1050 2GB was still doing its job but the limits of the old HDMI started to get to me since my TV has full HDMI 2.1 (LG OLED B2). Was i surprised, but I'm still streaming better looking games that don't need super low latency from my desktop with 4x the graphics power
I wonder how it would do with an Athlon 200ge/3000G. With the argument, that older games have had a hard time on Intel's GPUs, but newer games are running fairly fine. So when playing new games, use the Intel Arc and when playing older games, use the Vega 3.
dope card! i paired it with my rx 6800 to us a dedicated streaming encoder using quicksync for now since im still waiting for Av1 on twitch and so far its doing really good :3
If I were to take a guess as to why the Last of Us performance is so bad, I would say that it’s because it’s trying to use 10GB VRAM on a 6GB VRAM card (see VRAM usage over that time period)
Just picked one up open-box for $100, exclusively for AV1 encoding on my Capture PC. It's actually quite impressive in that regard! AV1 to UA-cam looks phenomenal, and HEVC local recording looks comparable (to my eyes) to NVENC at similar settings. Hard to beat such performance for ~$100.
i honestly think the A380 makes more sense if you consider it as an AV1 encoder/streaming add-in card for people on 3xxx series nvidia cards or previous gen amd cards. For $100 dollars you can improve your stream quality and the quality of videos uploaded to youtube, instead of paying $600-1600 for a new gen nvidia or amd card.
i got one recently as a temp card for my new build, since i'm on a budget. I also wanted to test Arc GPU's with UE4, because pretty much nowhere online has confirmed it, well i can now haha. I was hoping it would just boot, i wasn't expecting it to run well. I'll do a video soon of it. I game alot, but i wasn't expecting this card to be this capable. I also went with a temp CPU till i could afford something better/i was originally thinking of just using the APU for a while, until a week after building my computer i started looking at Arc cards again. I have a Ryzen 5 8600g. A lot of people have said there is no point, you wouldn't notice the difference between the onboard graphics and the arc card... completely untrue. So far, everything has either been double the performance or going from unplayable to playable, and usually theres headroom to either increase the resolution and or settings. For £120 theres basically nothing new that comes close to it, you have to spend almost 100 pounds more. Keeping an eye on the a770 currently, or i might just push this card till Battlemage comes around, unless i can get the a770 at a good price.
When new gen arrive i will consider this as AV1 encoder. It will run good on X1 slot, right? (I got rx6600xt as a main one and small case with mATX motherboard)
Would love to see comparisons to the 1650 and rx6400. There should be low profile cards coming and then this could be an interesting upgrade for some tiny machines.
From recent updated benchmarks and reviews, it sits around just higher than 1650 territory, but is definitely ahead of the RX 6400, which being cheaper new than either. It's around the same as a RX 6500 XT while having far superior RT performance and more dedicated VRAM.
The RX6400 would still be a bit more powerful I think, but only on PCIE 4.0 systems, which makes it quite worthless as a budget card because you're unable to pair it with an aging budget system.
@@aboriginalmang The RX6400 was about equal with launch A380 drivers, there's a few vids showing these benchmarks on YT. However now, the A380 has gained about 30% performance almost across the board, so it's now sitting closer to a 6500 XT. Would be a good comparison to revisit with the 6400 being the only price competitor. The A380 would trample it now though.
@@raffiefoxmew3691 the rx6400 is forever hindered by its 4 pcie lanes and nothing can be done about it. Same with the rx 6500xt, which was considered one of the worst gpus ever made.
Bizarre that this card has lower .1% lows in RDR2 with the console equivalent settings at 1080p than my Sapphire Tri-X 290X in 1440p when using the Hardware Unboxed recommended settings + ultra textures (which it just about has enough VRAM for). But of course you don't have to pump 250w into an A380...
50W, it shouldn't need any power connector other than the PCI-e slot, which should provide 75W... However, seeing how the mobo makers cut corners sometimes, maybe that's not a bad fail-safe.
@@aboveaveragebayleaf9216 And i'm OLD =D I was young then (13 IIRC), but i bought an original Orchid Righteous 3D (THE first 3Dfx Voodoo accelerator card, with clickity-clackers! (clicky relays =D)) at the time and it was SUCH a revolution.
@GeFeldz yeah, I know the rx 6400 sips power too, but that one makes a lot of compromises with the encoder, and outputs. It is one of the best single slot low profile cards though.
Resizable Bar is a bios setting in most 4xx chipsets and later. It should work with most "recent" AMD and Intel systems. My Intel 10400 with a Z590 board shows the option. Fun fact, Nvidia cards have can use ReBar as well, but it is not a system requirement. I have not seen anything that confirms Intel CPU systems have an advantage with ReBar...but, might be a good video topic!
AMD was first with their SAM (rebar), then Nvidia released their rebar. For both AMD and Nvidia rebar doesn't make much of a difference on average however for Intel running without rebar is like kneecapping your GPU.
@@t1e6x12 nothing new only a other name. Its standaard specs of the pci-e systeem. What is use on pro cards for rendering. Its only now that you can use it on your game card.
That really is interesting. My best guess is that intel originally intended it to use more than the 75W it is speced for now. It would also be quite interesting to see, if the A380 will just run normally without the 8pin pluged in.
Probably it's trendy ... yup gamer are suckers on suck things , I bet accountants wanted that as that will sell more GPU , as biffy GPU have 8 pins = that is a trick , to make noob players think , GPU is very good ...
Stability across a wide range of dies. It's the same with CPUs. Most may have too much voltage/power but it's adjusted for worst case scenario die. A perfect example is the I5 9600k I bought years back. I lost the silicone lottery big time. It can barely OC so I just under volted and kept the CPU running at stock settings. Temps are a lot better and the meager OC is not worth it for the extra power and heat.
@@adammarcinkowski-ko3el or... the gpu has a more expensive chip in it and Intel probably is bottlenecking the gpu, something very simmilar that AMD did with the Vega gpus in 2016
Don't know if you know this, but Matrox is making some Arc cards for the industrial market, interestingly enough. Way too pricey for the average person though.
Would be interesting comparing to other low cost options and looking at the power consumption as well. This might be ideal for small form factor if it doesn't kick out too much heat
Ya know some folks are buying these cards to put in PCs with more powerful c GPUs as an encoder card for streaming and recording. I guess if you have the room for it in your case it may work well for that. I hear they have some great encoder hardware
Wow, these arc cards are more tempting by the day, kudos to intel for pushing more on driver optimizations! This card would be useful for low end PCs or media use.
Absolutely
I'd be looking at integrated for that kind of build.
@@james_dl Integrated is still lacking. Only recent motherboards can output at 4k60Hz, many are limited to 4k30hz.
Yeah but for a budget, media based build one of the new Ryzen chips are more that capable and would keep the price down to something affordable.
@@james_dl not if you want to do media creation. This card is a big win if you do content creation and don't game.
makes me wonder how much more gpus are being held back by bad drivers.
And i wonder if updates are making GPUs run bad. making us think we have to buy a new one 🤔
Yeah had the same thought
After my gpu lost about 10 fps after some updates
@@TheGlitcher7 Greed 😞
@@TheGlitcher7 ... buddy you can allway use driver you had before driver update ! = you loose no FPS ...
Laughing in Linux
Finally someone looking the impact of new drivers on this variant and not just the A7x0 cards.
Yeah this things a bit of an underdog
@@RandomGaminginHD Wonder if the "gap" will be filled with Battlemage and we get a B5x0 card ??
I worked for Intel for 10 years in the Fab, Prescott to Haswell, good to see them in the GPU game now.
and more . . . ?)_ with love NITRO
Wow. Great career
You did some great work then, I have owned multiple of those CPU's from Prescott to Haswell. Starting with a Prescott P4, moving to an Ivy Bridge i3 and then building my own PC with the Haswell i7 4770K with GTX 970 I still use to this day. I can confirm through my mutual friends that my particular 4770K has survived 4 owners (I'm the 4th) and still runs 4.2 GHz at 1.25 V with 0 issues nearly 10 years later. That must've been a cool place to work. I would buy an ARC GPU immediately if my PC's Z97 motherboard had good enough PCI-E to take advantage of it but i'd be leaving some performance on the table. Thanks for the work on all those awesome CPU's!
@@2K-Tan my system is identical to yours & still using it 8yrs + later. i think you meant 4790k
@@OugaBoogaShockwave Nah the 4770K is a thing, it was the 1st version of the i7 4790K with slightly less clock speed but everything else is identical as far as I know. The 4770K was 2013 and the 4790K was 2014. Haswell and Haswell Refresh.
This card should be given more credit, if you are not using it for gaming use it for the encoders/decoders it comes with - AV1.
Yeah good point
Yes I'm thinking of grabbing one for a streaming pc
Also it can be a good choice for Linux users in order to avoid the crappy NV driver.
@@zooteddd Wait a month or two. Asrock is supposedly coming out with an LP version of the A380, so that may suit your needs better.
@@EbonySaints that's a good idea. It's only 120 right now for this same ASRock one that he has. It's tempting for sure
Nice to see the A380 being covered with updated drivers. All the other Arc update videos only seem to cover the A750 and A770
Well all of the are getting basically the same improvement.
Overall ~30% improvement since launch day
And massive improvement in stability
yeah.. I almost thought Intel forgot they ever launched the A380
@@judasthepious1499I think it’s just not very exciting to most people, and like the other replied said the gain % is more or less the same across the skus.
Looks pretty interesting. Glad to see a competent 3rd player in the video card market.
... yeah "competent" , not yet , Intel need 2 generation to compete as equal with AMD , and I doubt Intel will take lead from Nvidia , just look net worth of 3 companies :
Intel - 130B$
AMD - 139B$
Nvidia - 680B$
... and money are important as , money research new tech , so Intel is on level of AMD ... and they are not competent as any player with limited budget grad AMD , because AMD is competent , Nvidia is best out there , and Intel they want to grab part of market , and me as a consumer would not risk and buy Intel GPU , as I dont want to fight with tech and hope Intel will write good drivers ! , if Intel was competent , working drivers would be there allready ...
@@adammarcinkowski-ko3el Whichever is the cheapest and gets the job done is fine for the majority of people. Nvidia is too expensive for what they're worth and AMD drivers are even messier at launch. Intel has a good chance of being the choice for the average budget gamer who won't spend more than $300 on a card.
@@eddiew.4650 I wish Intel well , but that will take time , honestly I am on market for new PC , I have budget , and in that budget I could buy cheap GPU and play CP2077 medium in 1080 I am ok with that , but there is also fact that right now there is plenty used cheap GPU , I can spend 250$ for new gpu ... or I can spend 100$ for RX580 that will handle games as well , or 110$ Vega 64 that will run CP2077 , high settings , 1080p in 60fps ... so now immagine how someone who know a bit about PC have buget would but unproved Intel GPU ... I honestly dunno if in 10 years Intel will still make gpu ...
Wow, those improvement metrics are really impressive. 25% better performance in the first game alone - for free!
more like bad performance caused by shitty drivers
On the one hand yes intel didn’t actually have to update drivers but also if they didn’t they’d never catch on in the gpu market so it’s to be expected
It is quite impressive but they set the bar incredibly low with the standard of the drivers on release.
Finally a video checking the driver updates on A380, not the A700 cards!
I think I've been using the Intel Arc A380 for about 2 months and considering my r9 fury was dying, It has been a wonderful card to use, although I wish it was more powerful
tbf A380 was launched as an budget gaming card Glad it is serving you well though. We have an A770 and it's been great, seems if you use ARC with a quality display in a modern system for typical stuff; it's mostly trouble free. Whenever I see people with ARC issues, seems +90% of the time it's them, not the card who is at fault. Putting arc in an ancient pc, using a dodgy old lcd with bad hdmi/dp adherence; trying to do some really contrived neckbeard software stuff that's a B to get working even ideally. The fact they complain after making their own bed is lol.
@@anasevi9456 lol
R9 Fury was an awesome card. It's HBM gave it a significant boost over other R9 cards. Do you feel the A380 is not as fast in some situations?
@@anasevi9456but if that’s something other cards can do and they can’t do it on the arc that’s still a legitimate complaint, even if it affects a small number of people.
@@anasevi9456 🤣 There is definitely merit to a lot of Arc users complaints.
This is much more than I would have ever expected out of this GPU.
This surprises me. Like a lot. Like a lot of lot ! Maybe a head-to-head battle between the A380, RX6400 and the GTX 1630. These cards cost the exact same (Here in Hungary at least). That could be an interesting Intel win maybe?
I'd say buy this card instead of the other 2, especially if you have newer hardware with rebar, the 1630 is garbage that can barely run any game with that price point, and the RX 6400 is actually not that but the fact that you'd lost performance if you don't use pcie 4.0 is pretty bad, also you cant even record cause the card don't got no HW encoder, or you can go to used market and buy the Rx 580 or even the 5700 xt which is pretty damn good too for under 200$
the only downside is only for Intel 10th gen and above.
@@chillinfartdotccOr AMD platforms with ReBAR, or if you’re feeling daredevilish, ReBAR modding on older Intel platforms
At this price point for a new card I actually think intel wins easily. It 100% isn’t the 1630 and the 6400xt is both more expensive and simply not a good product, 4gb of vram is rough in 2023. The cheapest new amd card worth buying rn is the rx 6600, any lower and your making very large concessions in both performance and features for very small money savings
@@DeepfriedBeans4492 One point in favor of the 6400 is the fact that there's a single-slot low-profile version. Until a slot-powered version arrives, the 6400 will have that over the A380.
It's great to see you are still doing what you started out doing and better! When you were given a 4070 to test by nvidia, and deservadly so. I was worried for a moment.I thought you were going in another direction. Glad to see you are based 👍. Love these, keep them coming.
He has done higher end gpu videos plenty of times in the past he just does more budget stuff over all, nothing ever changed or was different in the 4070 video.
When watching other people review games and hardware one can get the impression that even the best hardware is inadequate. It's good to see that modestly priced new hardware can do well.
I originally got this card months ago as a sort of neat collectors item because, lets be honest, its funny that this thing exists at all. It actually saved me when my RX 6600 XT randomly died on me one morning and I used the A380 for a while before building my new PC recently. The improvements with drivers with time was really nice as well along with the AV1 compatibility when I had to do video related work not realizing how great that is at the time. The very low power draw and low heat was just a bonus. Very glad I got this card.
Did you ever experiment with overclovking it?
@@defuncthusky6649 At some point in time I did. It helped with 1% lows by a fair amount, but little or negligible improvement elsewhere by like a few frames. I didn't test a lot of games with it overclocked though.
Despite this, I'm glad I had the A380 on hand when my last GPU died on me. It basically played everything I had at 1080p low.
@@awfumisazach i see
The video that we needed! No one was making a video about the a380 performance improvements via driver updates. But here you are. Thanks!
I love seeing your updates on these Arc cards as the drivers mature. The cards are aging very well!
I'm glad there's starting to be more competition in the gpu market, usually good for prices.
I'd love to see some analysis of its hardware encoding/decoding performance for both AV1 and older video codecs - I'm maintaining a GPUless AM5 system for video editing, the A380 would essentially be an accelerator and enable less casual gaming.
At that point you should check out the gtx 1650 super which cost almost the same, and if you got a few hundred bucks left, should check out thr rtx 3050 which is power efficient and also relatively fast for workload
@@durchfaII Should I though? A380 has been on my buy used list for a while to use quick sync
@@durchfaII Both don't have AV1 encode.
@@t1e6x12 the rtx 3050 does have av1 encode, the 1650 super has it's own way of encoding
@@durchfaII RTX 3050 has AV1 decode, not encode. Also saying the 1650 "having its own way of encoding" shows that you don't understand what AV1 is.
Maybe I missed a mention but I feel the A380 has a solid place as a cheap AV1 and h264 encoder if you want to stream or record. It has the same Media engine as the more expensive Arc cards
looking forward to more intel card coverage from you mate! :)
Yay, I was hoping you'd go back to Arcs soon after such big recent improvments :3!
I'd love an A380 to tinker with, but hard to justify when I already have an A770 16GB card X3
lol
Great work by Intel, I am glad they are in the budget GPU market!
As soon as they establish themselves in the discrete GPU market, they'll jack up the price (just like AMD cpus after the first 2 zen generations) and then there will be no value options at all.
They will keep selling cheap processors without video
Those are really impressive performance gains! I can't wait for Intel's next round of GPUs.
I would love to see direct comparisons to similarly priced options PLEASE! Within the range of $150 and below would be great for the very low budget consumers out there.
Nice video! Interesting card, like!
I just bought one to use as an AV1 encoder. Looking forward to it coming in.
Nice :)
Great that Intel is now making GPU's I would buy one if I needed a better GPU but for old games a HD5830 is still fine.
I bought this same card for my windows based plex server for av1 stuff. It is a good performer for that but I feel I get less gaming performance than you because I have it in a pcie 3.0 machine. But it still works decently.
This thing is nowhere near fast enough to be limited by PCIe 3. Lack of resizable BAR might make a small difference.
@@honkhonkler7732I do have resizable bar enabled.
I have a friend that has a 3090 in his PC. He streams a lot and uses a A380 just for the AV1 encoder.
the 3090 has an AV1 encoder lol.
@@mr.cookie8265 check again it has AV1 decoder not encoder.
@@Teksers my bad, you are right
Thank you for doing a recent follow-up. It may not be your most popular video, but it hugely appreciated.
Just came back after a couple years and im glad to see this guy still making bangers
these arc cards are already amazing first gen, by the time i upgrade next (probably another 2 - 3 years) i wouldn't be surprised if i ended up picking an intel card instead of amd or nvidia
This GPU is actually surprising me w8th it’s current performance 💪🥰after initial launch being really bad on the A380😂. Great to see the performance increase and a price drop on this GPU 🥰🥳👍
but still it's worse than AMD integrated gpu
@@juser-abuser lol just say that you have no idea what you are talking about. The Arc A380 even beats the ryzen 5700g which is currently amds best APU (CPU with integrated graphics)
APU Graphic units have to access "normal" RAM which significant slower than VRAM. Even the Vega 11 (ryzen 3000gs) gets demolished by the ARC.
@@mr.cookie8265
Lol, you are clearly don't know what are you talking about. Current AMD's igpu is 680m which is available in ryzen 6/7 series and beats your pathetic a380 in all tests. In fact 680m is faster by 170%.
@@juser-abuser you are comparing a laptop igpu to a pc gpu. Also an APU and an iGPU arent the same.
If you want a device with a 680m you have to pay at least 1000$. while the arc a380 costs about 150$. Let me guess, you are also comparing modern iphones with 2016 low tier androids ?
edit: the cheapest laptop with a 680m i could find is the Lenovo IdeaPad 5 Pro 16 which costs 999 bucks.
for that money you can get a very good pc with a real gpu.
@@mr.cookie8265
You can buy a mini-pc with Ryzen 7 7800 with 680m for less than 400$. You are forbidden to use Google by your parents dude?
If you have a free PCIe slot, you could use this as a dedicated Streaming/Rendering card. Especially for AV1
As long as Intel keep putting in the work, I think they will be quite competitive with AMD and Nvidia in a few years time. I'm not Intel's biggest fan, but I will definitely consider them for my next GPU if they continue this trend of improving performance.
Intel have the best budget CPUs and Currently they have the best budget gpus. I am now intel's biggest fan and I lost a lot of respect for amd specially in 2022-23. For Nvidia I consider them just pure evil
Man... even on low settings, modern games still look absolutely stunning. Wow
yeah especially that The Last of Us
@@GewelReal TLOU looked amazing on the PS3 so that's what I assume lowest/low settings would look like. If not, closer to the PS4 remaster.
Holy Shit good improvment Good Video like you BROO!!
This GPU aging like fine wine. Getting better and better over time.
nah more like milk 6gb vram is barely enough this days
@@Vfl666 it's more likely the card would not have enough processing power to run something intensive before the VRAM becomes an issue
Recommended it over the RX 6400... 8 lanes and 6GB (not 4 lanes and 4GB). On top of that all modern encoders/decoders. My friend was happy and it's good to see it improve further.
@@Vfl666 its a budget GPU, you are not meant to play new AAA games on it.
I don't know about wine considering how bad these cards were at launch, but they are finally reaching a driver refinement level on par with 2015 era Radeon GPUs. These aren't really gaming GPUs anyway. They're good for the encoders more than anything else.
I like this new boeing a380 its flying off the performance charts
Love to see, that your channel is still the same after 3 years and many more views. Thanks for staying low budget ❤
If Intel were to fit the iGPUs that performs similar to Arc A380 rather than the current Iris Xe graphics into the next 14th & 15th desktop chipset generation, that would be a steal. Aside from better cooling fans, those chipsets (if it comes true) would be a nice stopgap before buying a more powerful graphics card.
14th gen Meteor Lake will have 128EU iGPU, which is the same specs as a A380. The boost frequency will be even higher than A380 but the ram bandwidth will be limited by LPDDR5. So it's hard to tell but it is fair to assume similar performance at low resolution
I got served this video after making a comment on another video today about the A380. Apparently UA-cam is always listening. Overall nice review. Thanks for the update.
It makes me glad to know,that Intel keeps on knokin' the drivers.
A380 is on my OfferUp search alert to use in a 400w passive psu powered quiet build.
thank you for making this video, i like monitoring intel arcs
Nice to see a review like this considering the exploding prices of GPUs from the big players. Sometimes we prefer a small and convenient sized build with compact components that don't feature a 3 slot thick, foot long GPU.
overall, im yearning for them, gpu deserve some competition.
I'm curious if you can run it alongside a more capable GPU as strictly a encoder for AV1 for streaming. For me that would be a good value drop-in upgrade rather than moving to a latest gen card that otherwise won't be a discernable FPS upgrade over what I've already got.
Pcie lane splitting.
Amd and Nvidia intel is here to stay and geting good improvements.👌
I dont think game optimization is getting worse. We're finally feeling the full impact of next gen consoles and Unreal Engine 5. Games are no longer previous gen stuff rendered at higher resolutions. Low settings on some of these games look like ultra settings from just 3-4 years ago.
Im glad to see Intel dedicated to supporting Alchemist. It makes me more optimistic for Battlemage and Celestial.
6 months later, I’m considering this card. 120 at microcenter, and to have 6gb of gddr6 vram it’s intriguing. I’m working on a sff build, so I figured this would be great.
I'm waiting for it to drop below £100 or for the A310 to be available for under £80. I want one only for AV1
I don't even play Doom Eternal, but I think you should add it to the game benchmarks just to show people how well optimised it is, like Forza Horizon 5.
Wow that’s a surprisingly capable card. I’m impressed
These numbers are comparable to what I was getting, in the titles shown that were available at the time, with a low-profile 1060 that had 3GB of VRAM and a faster memory bus. But a price more comparable to the 1060 with 6GB of VRAM. There does appear to be a use case here as a GPU for small form factor PCs like a used Dell OptiPlex, as the A380 is comparatively small and power-efficient. And I'm tempted to get one to drop in one of my old media center boxes to try out one of Intel's cards.
Did it require a 6pin PCIE connector?
@@Loundsify The 1060 did. The A380 appears to be available from different Intel partners with higher or lower clock speeds and power requirements. So depending on the make, it could require a 6-pin or 8-pin connector, or only the power from the PCIE slot.
One thing to keep in mind is that Intel does recommend to use their ARC GPUs with ReBAR capable systems, this could prove to be problematic when matching them with an old OptiPlex (ReBar is supported on Zen 2 and newer on AMD and Comet Lake and newer on Intel)
So glad Intel got into the GPU market. Crossing fingers for another company to get into the mix. Wouldn't it be cool if 3dfx came back?
There's an Arc A310 but haven't found one for sale yet.
Yeah same been looking for ages
I got one about 4 months ago for my HTPC and didn't expect for it to play AAA games or fast paced shooters. I just only recently installed it as the GTX 1050 2GB was still doing its job but the limits of the old HDMI started to get to me since my TV has full HDMI 2.1 (LG OLED B2). Was i surprised, but I'm still streaming better looking games that don't need super low latency from my desktop with 4x the graphics power
I just bought and donated an RX 5500xt to a local kid. The Rx 5500xt is still a pretty good card.
I wonder how it would do with an Athlon 200ge/3000G.
With the argument, that older games have had a hard time on Intel's GPUs, but newer games are running fairly fine.
So when playing new games, use the Intel Arc and when playing older games, use the Vega 3.
I just picked one up on New Egg for $106 shipped! Adding it to my 3090 ti as a drop in AV1 Encoder...! My 1500watt PSU should be fine!
dope card! i paired it with my rx 6800 to us a dedicated streaming encoder using quicksync for now since im still waiting for Av1 on twitch and so far its doing really good :3
I love to see Intel going at a super low end area of the market that's been forgetting by AMD and Nvidia
If I were to take a guess as to why the Last of Us performance is so bad, I would say that it’s because it’s trying to use 10GB VRAM on a 6GB VRAM card (see VRAM usage over that time period)
Just picked one up open-box for $100, exclusively for AV1 encoding on my Capture PC. It's actually quite impressive in that regard! AV1 to UA-cam looks phenomenal, and HEVC local recording looks comparable (to my eyes) to NVENC at similar settings. Hard to beat such performance for ~$100.
On sale for $119 @ Newegg here in the states!
i honestly think the A380 makes more sense if you consider it as an AV1 encoder/streaming add-in card for people on 3xxx series nvidia cards or previous gen amd cards. For $100 dollars you can improve your stream quality and the quality of videos uploaded to youtube, instead of paying $600-1600 for a new gen nvidia or amd card.
where I live this card is 140 new, I think its a really good price considering you get a new card
i got one recently as a temp card for my new build, since i'm on a budget. I also wanted to test Arc GPU's with UE4, because pretty much nowhere online has confirmed it, well i can now haha. I was hoping it would just boot, i wasn't expecting it to run well. I'll do a video soon of it.
I game alot, but i wasn't expecting this card to be this capable. I also went with a temp CPU till i could afford something better/i was originally thinking of just using the APU for a while, until a week after building my computer i started looking at Arc cards again. I have a Ryzen 5 8600g. A lot of people have said there is no point, you wouldn't notice the difference between the onboard graphics and the arc card... completely untrue. So far, everything has either been double the performance or going from unplayable to playable, and usually theres headroom to either increase the resolution and or settings.
For £120 theres basically nothing new that comes close to it, you have to spend almost 100 pounds more. Keeping an eye on the a770 currently, or i might just push this card till Battlemage comes around, unless i can get the a770 at a good price.
The software bundle that was with it was worth more than the card. No regerts
excited to see what battlemage brings
For some it's confusing when the entry level product of one company (Intel) has the same name as the flagship product of another company (Airbus).
Haha yeah it’s easy to get confused between the two 😁
Yeah, I could see someone trying to buy an Airbus by mistake and thinking the asking price is trolling
I think there are still a few A380 planes in service (many were grounded during the pandemic). If only there were a laptop with an A380 built in…
I'm actually planning on snapping up an A380 for a tinkering build in a few weeks.
these A380 cards would be a perfect match for one of those office pcs. an optiplex or something similar
When new gen arrive i will consider this as AV1 encoder. It will run good on X1 slot, right? (I got rx6600xt as a main one and small case with mATX motherboard)
nice improvements!
it would be nice to compare it against gtx 1650 and rx 6400
Damn it's more powerful than now my ageing 1050ti
Hopefully intel look into making small form factor cards compatible with HP and Dell office PCs for cheap pc upgrades!
I would be super interested to see how well that card performs for doing video transcoding for plex if its even supported yet
Would love to see comparisons to the 1650 and rx6400. There should be low profile cards coming and then this could be an interesting upgrade for some tiny machines.
From recent updated benchmarks and reviews, it sits around just higher than 1650 territory, but is definitely ahead of the RX 6400, which being cheaper new than either.
It's around the same as a RX 6500 XT while having far superior RT performance and more dedicated VRAM.
The RX6400 would still be a bit more powerful I think, but only on PCIE 4.0 systems, which makes it quite worthless as a budget card because you're unable to pair it with an aging budget system.
@@aboriginalmang The RX6400 was about equal with launch A380 drivers, there's a few vids showing these benchmarks on YT.
However now, the A380 has gained about 30% performance almost across the board, so it's now sitting closer to a 6500 XT.
Would be a good comparison to revisit with the 6400 being the only price competitor. The A380 would trample it now though.
@@raffiefoxmew3691 the rx6400 is forever hindered by its 4 pcie lanes and nothing can be done about it. Same with the rx 6500xt, which was considered one of the worst gpus ever made.
Bizarre that this card has lower .1% lows in RDR2 with the console equivalent settings at 1080p than my Sapphire Tri-X 290X in 1440p when using the Hardware Unboxed recommended settings + ultra textures (which it just about has enough VRAM for). But of course you don't have to pump 250w into an A380...
I still wish intel would get some A310 boards on the market, it'd be nice to have a modern half height single slot HDMI adapter for HTPCs
Yeah would like to see those myself
@@RandomGaminginHD There was something about a A380 LP recently (from ASRock).
50W, it shouldn't need any power connector other than the PCI-e slot, which should provide 75W... However, seeing how the mobo makers cut corners sometimes, maybe that's not a bad fail-safe.
Probably means you'd be pretty safe using an adapter for the supplemental power.
@@aboveaveragebayleaf9216 IMHO it's very safe. 50W power for a GPU is way back, in the long, LONG ago when even i was considered young =D
@GeFeldz yeah, you would only need the pcie connector for the gpu to know it's plugged in. Not required for actual power needs.
@@aboveaveragebayleaf9216 And i'm OLD =D I was young then (13 IIRC), but i bought an original Orchid Righteous 3D (THE first 3Dfx Voodoo accelerator card, with clickity-clackers! (clicky relays =D)) at the time and it was SUCH a revolution.
@GeFeldz yeah, I know the rx 6400 sips power too, but that one makes a lot of compromises with the encoder, and outputs. It is one of the best single slot low profile cards though.
Resizable Bar is a bios setting in most 4xx chipsets and later. It should work with most "recent" AMD and Intel systems. My Intel 10400 with a Z590 board shows the option. Fun fact, Nvidia cards have can use ReBar as well, but it is not a system requirement. I have not seen anything that confirms Intel CPU systems have an advantage with ReBar...but, might be a good video topic!
Ryzen 2000 serie do it to
My is set on in the bios .
In the amd software its on
Gpu-z tell me its on.
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AMD was first with their SAM (rebar), then Nvidia released their rebar. For both AMD and Nvidia rebar doesn't make much of a difference on average however for Intel running without rebar is like kneecapping your GPU.
@@t1e6x12 nothing new only a other name.
Its standaard specs of the pci-e systeem.
What is use on pro cards for rendering.
Its only now that you can use it on your game card.
Would be interesting to see it trying to run something older like Serious Sam or DeusEx.
The A380 just dropped to $100 with AC:Mirage & Nightingale. I'm very tempted to get one just for AV1 encode at this point (my 6700XT can decode)
Games seem to be good benchmarks nowadays than actually is for entertainment
May i ask something? Why does this gpu require 8 pins? It's performing simmilarly to a 1650 why does it need 8 pins
Yeah I’m not sure really
That really is interesting. My best guess is that intel originally intended it to use more than the 75W it is speced for now.
It would also be quite interesting to see, if the A380 will just run normally without the 8pin pluged in.
Probably it's trendy ... yup gamer are suckers on suck things , I bet accountants wanted that as that will sell more GPU , as biffy GPU have 8 pins = that is a trick , to make noob players think , GPU is very good ...
Stability across a wide range of dies. It's the same with CPUs. Most may have too much voltage/power but it's adjusted for worst case scenario die.
A perfect example is the I5 9600k I bought years back. I lost the silicone lottery big time. It can barely OC so I just under volted and kept the CPU running at stock settings. Temps are a lot better and the meager OC is not worth it for the extra power and heat.
@@adammarcinkowski-ko3el or... the gpu has a more expensive chip in it and Intel probably is bottlenecking the gpu, something very simmilar that AMD did with the Vega gpus in 2016
im a old school mmo / platformer type game lover... for the price i bet this card will perform great on the games i have
your contents are amazing
i think you should upload a video on 6500xt vs 1650 vs arc a380 their comparison video is really what everyone wants
I have an arc a380 just sitting here. I couldn't use it in a build for someone else so I'll just keep it for a backup card for my 3080.
I'd love to have your Afterburner monitoring preset. I'm too lazy to customize the default one and yours I believe is the best
Bought this thing cause it fits in my ITX case mostly. Does the job. I expect Linux drivers to catch up one day as well.
6:06 that was kinda scary
Im seriously considering an A770 for a spare pc, just for giggles. Want to check out stability and drivers.
Very reminiscant to the old Matrox cards.
Don't know if you know this, but Matrox is making some Arc cards for the industrial market, interestingly enough. Way too pricey for the average person though.
Would be interesting comparing to other low cost options and looking at the power consumption as well. This might be ideal for small form factor if it doesn't kick out too much heat
would you be keen to compare it with amds 6400 or 6500xt?
If Intel successfully put this in meteorlake igpu
Im sure handheld/ultrathins will be full of this performance which is good for the market
Ya know some folks are buying these cards to put in PCs with more powerful c GPUs as an encoder card for streaming and recording. I guess if you have the room for it in your case it may work well for that. I hear they have some great encoder hardware