Black Sabbath - Last Gig With Ray (Nottingham 04/06/1986)
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- Опубліковано 1 лис 2017
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Último show de la gira de Seventh Star 1986, en el Royal Concert Hall, Nottingham, Inglaterra. Este fue el último show realizado con el vocalista Ray Gillen, Eric Singer, y Dave Spitz.
01 Intro/Superstar
02 Mob Rules
03 Children Of The Sea
04 Danger Zone
05 War Pigs
06 Heart Like A Wheel
07 Symptom Of The Universe
08 Sweet Leaf - Zero The Hero
09 Seventh Star
10 Band Intros
11 Turn To Stone
12 Eric Singer Drum Solo
13 Die Young
14 Black Sabbath
15 Dave(The Beast) Spitz Bass Solo
16 NIB/Neon Nights
17 Heaven And Hell
18 Paranoid
19 Thank You/Words From Tony Iommi
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Ray Gillen was phenomenal! He managed to sing all phases of the band with mastery, something that no one had done before.
Yes - and never ruined his voice -> using crystal clear diaphragma techniques.
He is also my favorite Metal Singer. RIP.
Yhea he did 🐅
@@andysurvival346 Most likely he would have vocal problems when he reached his 40s, he sang high notes extremely brilliantly but in certain live shows that I analyzed, Ray used to sing high notes quite stridently at certain times and with a lot of glottal effort and you could tell by the degree of tension noticeable muscle in his facial expressions but he was always fantastic in his short time of life until he was 34 years old, this has also always been a constant in the performances of many metal and rock singers as a whole in this style of singing, with the exception of Ronnie who always sang with a very powerful voice in the high notes but with enormous muscular control, in a very natural way and without any tension throughout his career, even singing with a lot of harmonic distortion in the throat and using a lot of the chest voice register in the upper notes acute.
Thanks ken😅
[0:00] Supertzar
[3:03] Mob Rules
[6:17] Children of the Sea
[12:36] Danger Zone
[17:50] War Pigs
[26:32] Heart Like a Wheel
[33:37] Symptom of the Universe
[36:07] Sweet Leaf
[41:08] Seventh Star
[46:30] Band Intros
[47:43] Turn to Stone
[50:05] Eric Singer Drum Solo
[53:15] Die Young
[58:04] Black Sabbath
[1:07:35] Dave Spitz Bass Solo
[1:11:42] NIB/Neon Nights
[1:18:37] Heaven and Hell
[1:37:13] Paranoid
[1:40:41] Thank You words from Tony Iommi
Interesting how Ray and Eric were with Sabbath and Jake was with Ozzy, and then all three came together to form the incredibly awesome but underappreciated Badlands. They should have been as big as GNR -- tragic. Interestingly Ray and I share the exact same birthdate (m/d/y) -- I feel some kind of kinship with his soul.
Time track List
1 Intro/Supertzar 0:00
2 Mob Rules 3:02
3 Children of The Sea 6:05
4 Danger Zone 12:35
5 War Pigs. 17:35
6 Heart Like a Wheel 26:15
7 Symptom of the
Universe 33:30
8 Sweet Leaf /
Zero The Hero 36:05
9 Seventh Star 40:12
10 Introduction
Band Members 46:31
11 Turn To Stone. 47:30
12 Erick Singer
Drums Solo 50:02
13 Die Young. 52:15
14 Black Sabbath. 57:32
15 Bass Solo Dave
The Beast Spitz. 1:07:33
16 NIB/Neon Knights 1:11:40
17 Heaven And Hell 1:18:10
18 Paranoid. 1:36:55
Thanks! I was about to do this over the weekend but you beat me
Only thing I’d add is Tony’s Guitar Solo at 1:25:28 - 1:32:00. It includes riffs from Orchid and Sabbath Bloody Sabbath
Tony is the best & most prolific riffmeister of All time..Matty NYC
Wouldve loved to hear Zero The Hero in its entirety
Ray Gillen was incredible!!!!!!
Ray Gillen. Fabulous singer. What ever he did ..
Hello🙌SIDA😰
Cool to hear Tony get on the mic at the end with a few words of thanks. I don't recall ever hearing him do that before.
Ray gave everything here. And every time. Full stop.
Ray Gillen, a real hero vocalist. Left us way too soon. I got to see him Black Sabbath. What a great surprise he was to me that night. I was expecting Glenn Hughes, not that I didn't like Glenn, I just had no idea who Ray was until I pestered just about everyone in the audience who he was because I knew that wasn't Glenn's vocals lol. Ray's soaring vocals, full of energy was unmistakably not Glenn's. Again, I love Glenn very much.
too much gay sex, killed him
You're Dead Ass right Man . He exit too soon!!! He had some set of Pipes. Love Ray Gillen RIP Man.
Glenn is my man. Ray Great too..Matty NYC
Brillant show! Ray was obviously the best Sabbath live singer after RJD.
You didn't like Ozzy or Gillan?
@@aryan1313ful Not as much. I think Ozzy's solo albums are more interesting to listen to and I prefer Gillan in Deep Purple.
ray was phenomenal..something else and unique. i love ozzy , dio s voice glenn s and tony martin...all had something magic..
I was 18, living on a Thoroughbred Horse Farm in Saratoga Springs NY (The Rich Farm!) With our close, personal fambly friends. I had tickets to see Sabbath with Glenn Hughes at The Glenn Falls Civic Center. About 3 weeks before the Show, Glenn melted down and was off the tour..I was crushed as I am a huge fan of Glenn from Trapeze & Purple. I guess it took them a while to find the Great Unknown Ray Gillen, so they paused the tour and skipped us Never got to see Ray matty NYC
Awesome performance!!
how freakin awesome is this
Ray Gillen R.I.P
Adoro o tony martim e o disco headless cross, mas como tinha curiosidade de ver o Ray cantando esse disco tb … so temos esse feito no eternal idol que tem duas versões com os dois … presentão pra nos🎉
He was fantastic!
I loved Seventh Star but always avoided any live recordings with Ray Gillen, sorry. My major-bad, because this rocks! Thanks for sharing it!
Ray Gillen es fantastico. Los temas de Sabbath con R.J.Dio los canta fenomenalmente. Descanse en paz.
Best Sabbath singer in my opinion. Ray was magic
I find it very difficult to overcome the vocal consistency that Dio had in the band, Dio was by far the best vocalist, much more solid and dynamic and Gillen comes next in front even of Tony Martin and Glenn Hughes.
@@luamoliveira3467 Believe it or not Iommi was asked who was the best singer ? in his career he has worked with ? He said Glenn Hughes .
@@SJ-ty5rw Then he changed his mind, because in a last recent interview he was asked who was the best singer he had worked with before and he chose Ronnie, he even explains in detail some personal problems and disagreements he had with Dio and what made the same leaving the band in 1982. Even if that were the case, Iommi was a genius musician but he was not a vocalist and never had any training in vocal physiology at the level of a graduate singing teacher to critically analyze someone's vocal structure , his opinion was more a matter of personal taste than something related to the structure and technique of singers in general and that only really serious singing professionals understand.
@@SJ-ty5rw Just ask any professional vocalist which singers are the most complex and difficult to emulate in terms of the difficulty of their songs, the vast majority will say Ronnie James Dio and even excellent singing teachers like Zach Ansley and Ken Tamplin also claim the same thing, mostly the Ken who has done many covers of Glenn Hughes, Dio, Freddie, Ian Gillan and many others.
@@luamoliveira3467 I love Dio, but you better listen to Ken's assessment starting @ 10:30 on the video he did on Sabbaths best singers, and probably the whole assessment from Dio through Gillen.
Thank you for uploading this 😊
Great vocal: Ray gillen.
Ray and Dio were the best singers for Sabbath.
They ALL contributed greatly. OZZY, enn Hughes, Gillan, Tony Martin not a bad singer or album. MATTY NYC
Tony Martin e DIO in my opinion
Great album.
Sensacional concierto.😎🤘
He was like a combination of Robert Plant and Geoff Tate, incredible tone with a napalm load of passion
Robert Plant suena como una gallina moribunda y aquí no la escucho
@@jorgeruben9359 JAJAJAJAJAJAJA es cierto ...pero creo que se refiere al fraseo...no a la tecnica. sobre todo en badlands pero para mi lo maximo es el tercer disco de esta banda y sun red sun...tambien esos temas que hizo con lynch
Ray sings circles around plant. Plant is horrible
@@McSorleyFan33 agree plant,ozzy,jagger and other character singers are nothing compared to ray
Plant was a shit singer. It's pretty much why he blew his voice out.
Рэй Гиллен просто спас Sabbath,заменив на гастролях Хьюза.👍
Очень жаль,что так рано ушёл из жизни.R.I.P.🌹
Awesome ray gillen 🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘
their most talented singer. RIP.
Listen I can understand why some people would like him. I do too even if he isn't up there as one of my favorites.... BUT FOR FUCK SAKE MAN DIO WAS IN SABBATH AND YOU SAID THAT! C'mon man
Ray is my favorite. The most talented singer , true .
@@pizzaman6926 So what if Dio was in Sabbath? I think it's time to let go of the whole "best-of-all-time"-schtick and realize that there is no number one. There have been people who were technically just as good as Dio. Don't worry, there's no shame in that. It doesn't make his work any less amazing.
@@hastobe303 There was no vocalist as technically good as Dio among rock and metal vocalists and you know it very well, try to inform yourself with the deep technical analyzes made by excellent vocal critics today and you will know within the parameters of vocal physiology Dio was the best vocalist rock/metal and the most vocally consistent, I say this because I have a degree in vocal pedagogy and for years I have been making technical observations of most vocalists in both rock and metal; He is a virtuoso vocalist compared to others, a master of compression and vocal resistance and his lower register is not only better among most rock/metal vocalists but also in comparison to Ray Gillen, where Ray clearly loses clarity and resonance in this register compared to Dio for example and anyone in their right mind can notice this; Ray Gillen has the greatest range in mixed voice among Sabbath vocalists but Dio has a much greater range in chest voice, where he sustained high notes in chest voice up to G5 with or without distortion with relative ease in his prime and most of metal vocalists can't sing anything above B4 on this record; But why did Dio get that unbelievable chest voice range for a male voice? Simple, as I said earlier, his level of muscle understanding, his vocal endurance and his fantastic breathing support, which he has even completely mastered over the years, clearly means that he can hit these notes with total mastery and resonant power without losing the musical dynamics; Dio was not only an extremely technically superior vocalist to Ray Gillen but also in relation to every rock/metal vocalist that has ever been analyzed.
@@luamoliveira3467 First off, and no offense meant, don't go about telling people to educate themselves according to your perception. It is insulting to me and in the end makes you look bad. I know his vocals have been analyzed but so have many others. And you have a degree in this and I have a degree in that and yada-yada...
On to the matter. I don't know very well that he was the best ever, otherwise I wouldn't have written what I did. I never stated that Dio wasn't a virtuoso vocalist. I only said that I believe that certain other rock and metal singers were as well, and to the same degree. Do you also hold to the notion that there is one best rock guitarist of all time? Is there a best ever rock drummer? Is there a single microphone that is superior to all others in recording instruments? Is there a single pickup for an electric guitar that is better than any other?
The answer to all of those questions is no. I may be wrong in my assessment that Gillen was at the same level as Dio (although I believe I'm not) but I am very correct when I state that Dio was not the one and only best vocalist ever. I'm not talking about range either. I'm talking about general vocal technique. Range certainly has a part in it but also body support, breathing, tone, voice placement, vowel placement, ability to project emotion, the whole kit. How a singer chooses to utilize these aspects and keep it consistent and healthy. There's just about as much wrong with using mixed voice as there is to using chest voice. And for what it's worth, I think Gillen sounds more comfortable in the lower range than Dio does.
There are probably more than several singers in rock music that I would put in the same pantheon as Dio based on those parameters, but that pantheon is nevertheless at the very top. So no, the more I educate myself the more I come to realize that Dio was not the greatest rock or metal vocalist ever. He was one of them.
Wow, Ray is a great singer, I'm sorry I missed him for the last 38 years. I've been a sabbath fan since 1974, my friends dad bought every new album and we'd play em all on the suitcase record player. My first record club got me my first 3 sabbath albums, all Dio era and still fantastic. I find the original song, Black Sabbath, is a great standard for discernment. The Ian Gillan Born in Hell tour has the best challenge for Ozzy, at 55:00 Ian begins his cover, I think it's the best until Ozzy's come back on the Reunion double album, after Ozzy's singing lessons that secured the #1 in my book as best sabbath singer ever. I would however have paid to see Ray Gillian, very good and more range than anyone else.
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The bass player Dave Spitz is the brother of Danny Spitz from Anthrax.
Yup!
Also Jason Ian Rosenfeld, brother of Scott Ian Rosenfeld was the drummer on Reverend's 2nd album "Play God"
Wonderful show! Killer! Never heard a bass solo so well done!
Wish wish wish but can't after I saw born again tour. Found out no geezer on bass I didn't follow them anymore....big mistake Ray Gillian kicks ass. May he rest in peace.
I was surprised to learn that this show is the 4th day of the 4 consecutive live dates. I wonder how his throat hold up.
SENSACIONAL!!!
R.I.P.
Dave “The Beast” Spitz on bass; he’s truly the best bassist in the world 🌎
who the hell gives thumbs down ??? makes me kind of sad............
Great show. Never heard it before
Sounds very like Glenn on Danger Zone👍🙂♥️
AND on Heart Like A Wheel! Ray stepped in heroically for this tour.
there was in my 29 birthday!
Very cool to hear this. Ray Gillen was so underrated, mainly because so few people heard of him. Truly great vocalist that died far to young. Would love to see some reissues of the first two Badlands records, but from the sound of it, that's not likely ever to happen.
Ray Gillen had a storied career fronting the band Shallow Yellow.
Very emotional...! Ray, great singer... one more in the Sab's history...
Wow. I had no idea Ray Gillen was so good! Almost as good as Dio.
he actually had a better range than dio.
@@kenchamberlain2552 sure sounds like it
@@kenchamberlain2552 No, Dio had a range better, with better control and bigger consistency and power.
Dio was better vocalist than Ray.
He was a great singer for them. I can't remember why he left. I liked him with Jake of course.
The stories vary a lot, I've heard all sorts of stuff going from creative differences, budget (they had to hire Bob Daisley to write songs because Ray Gillen wasn't much of a composer), I even heard that they parted ways with Gillen because he was a liability - allegedly Gillen was hiding the fact that he was HIV positive, lying about his status, and screwing women and giving them HIV on purpose.
@@ferrreira The HIV situation came years later around the time of Badlands. Both Ray and drummer Eric Singer left Sabbath because of poor financial and management issues in the band.
Seriously? This "video" has way too little views. I have to admit Ray Gillen was very talented performer. Its not easy to sing Ozzy's and Dio's songs and he realy nailed them. Wondering what it would look like if he would join Sabbath instead of Tony Martin.
Never heard this before
Dommage qu’il n’y ai pratiquement pas de vidéos sur scène 🙈la dernière avec Sabbath aurait été bienvenue ✋🏿Extraordinaire RAY, il a su mettre l’ambiance( contrairement à Tony qui l’a remplacé et les reproches avec👋) « Children of the Sea♥️Bring Chills🤷🏻♀️L’interprétation de Ronnie, malade, dernière présentation sur scène ♥️WOUAHHHH, incredible Ronnie , version finale avec Heaven&Hell, MAGISTRALE, Alright, look out, the sky coming blood, look out the sun is coming back… look outtt🫴🏽🤘🏿
Even recognizing Ray was technically better than Martin, I think Tony sounds better in Black Sabbath song. He is more operistic and uses the drive in right moments.
Yah but Ian ruled
1:33:57 Oooh hooo hooo hooo hooooooo!
I would hangout with my brothers
When they would hangout in our backyard
And party out with my brothers new 📻 best ever .
Tell the morning. Best years ever 80s.
"My name is Ray Gillen... No relations." 😆
I don't just say this because Ray and I share a Birthday, he is actually IMHO one of the top 5 top ever hit the stage true singers
No one cares when your birthday is.
Black Scabbath
Good sound for a bootleg!😀
The vid says last gig with Ray, lol.
Ray should have taken the Broadway gig for Cats instead of singing for Sabbath
He died young 😢 right? What age? Cause? Where was he from? Matty NYC
RG really sounds good for BS but too bad this concert was not remastered high class audio.
The end ray guilan and black sabbath dave spitz and erick singer
hola, Dave Spitz hizo conciertos con Tony Martín en 1987: en su debut en Grecia y la gira por Sudáfrica. Saludos
This playslist and the Hugues playlist are the same
De hecho no. En el primer show de Glenn estaban Angry Heart y Iron Man. Con el ingreso de Ray Gillen, también retiraron No Stranger to Love y a mediados del tour agregaron N.I.B. y Die Young (que antes retomaban con Turn to Stone luego del solo de Eric Singer)
@@Nicoo-jr5ml Ray >>>>>>>>> Martin
Ray Gillen could pull off the Ozzy songs better than Dio. The Dio songs sound great also. Outstanding talent
Pero igual esta bruuutal!!! Arriba las Cuernas 👊👹
Not quite the bite of Ronnie…. But 😊pitch perfect
Great concert. Gillen gone too soon.
I would love to sit in on the rehearsals for this. That band is tight as hell.
Just a little criticism, Dio peaked vocally on Heaven and Hell. Ray's good but Dio's got him beat.
But then again, he's covering Dios song. Seldom is a cover artist as good as the original.
Sin visualizaciones dice! y yo q no cuento? 》÷[
Jaja; a mi me figura 2 visualizaciones.
dave spitz fez outros gigs
Sim, Dave fez todos os shows correspondentes à turnê "Sétima Estrela", isto é, todo o ano de 1986.
@@Nicoo-jr5ml mais shows na Grécia e África do Sul... tour de Eternal Idol 1987.. e gravação de Eternal Idol...junto com Bob Daisley
@@robertstanfordcam2649 Pero no fue hasta el año pasado que aparecieron audios del show en Grecia. De Sudáfrica no he escuchado nada. Pero si; Dave volvió para hacer esas giras, que fueron previos al lanzamiento del álbum.
P.D: no tenia ganas de traducir con google como hace tres años XD Saludos.
@@Nicoo-jr5ml sim... show na Grécia... Tony Martin pedindo para público parar de brigar.. bem curioso... Bev Bevan na bateria... não consigo traduzir pelo Google... peço desculpas
Black Sabbath, complicateds Bands, too many different Singer:Ronnie, Ray, Hughes, Osbourne...On the album »Last Gig, with Ray »👍Ray which leaves for « Badlands »🤪my problem is that I love Ronnie and Ray, but they perform the same songs: Danger Zone, die Young, Children of the Sea, (War 🐷 Pig, we leave for Ozzy and Glenn‼️Poor)and Heaven&Hell.... Ronnie, Ray 👍sublime différent Voices🤷🏾♂️and what I admire with Ronnie, is his sensitivity, his gestures mixed with metal, which brings US, emotions, happiness and Heaven&Hell à bewitching Ferocity, followed bye.. yeh, yeh, yehhhh... ALRIGHT!!! Which make these interpretation bye Ronnie Subjugate🤘💋. RAY with « Badlands »Wonderful Songs💕I’m cry😰 »Get Away, so young »😰💋
Ian!!!
The most talented singer in sabbath ronnie james dio ray gillen belongs in badlands whst a joke !!!!
There's no way this isn't dio
Dude, this is NOT Dio...
No this is actually God, aka Ray.
Haha..not even close.There voices are totally different.Ray actually sounds a a bit like Glenn Hughes on a few songs and that is of course because Glenn sang them on the album.
@@bobolsen8067 he must be Sabbath's best vocalist he can cover all
@@toddfarrand5982 But Gillen no had a voice more virtuosa, consistent, powerful and with better control than Dio.
Never got to see him..Boo 👎 hoo..Matty NYC
Fine voice and impressive technique. It would have been nice to have an album or two with Ray Gillen. By no means inferior to Tony Martin - and far, far superior to that pathetic crooner Glenn Hughes.
The rhythm section sucks! Wish Ray would ha e jammed with vinny and Geez
Ray and Tony Martin were the best vocalist for BS. Ozzy sucked. Dio was good but lyrics sucked. Ian not a good fit. Glenn not a good fit. Tony and Ray awesome.
too long of a bass solo