MAJOR Exotic & Weapons CHANGES (Izanagi/Witherhoard NERFS) | Destiny 2 The Final Shape

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  • Опубліковано 5 чер 2024
  • Today, we're taking a look at the most recent blog post from Bungie covering all of our weapon changes going into The Final Shape.
    #destiny2 #thefinalshape #bungie
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    0:25 Weapon Archetypes
    10:35 Exotics
    20:58 Perks
    25:29 Outro
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  • @terribletimes902
    @terribletimes902 21 день тому +2308

    Nerfing kinetics in PvE is wild

    • @subzero308
      @subzero308 20 днів тому +312

      So dumb they need a buff badly.

    • @legolokicars5820
      @legolokicars5820 20 днів тому +145

      Honestly for me this is somewhat of a win. It means that all those stasis and strand special weapons i have patterns for will now possibly make me consider taking off my supremacy.

    • @zhizuizhizui4896
      @zhizuizhizui4896 20 днів тому +96

      I said the same god damn thing like they just want us to play the game like how they want to

    • @tristanwright9572
      @tristanwright9572 20 днів тому +110

      It's only to bosses and it sounds like they have future plans for kinetics at some later time. It's a pretty small nerf and most people would never notice.

    • @animtok
      @animtok 20 днів тому +23

      true, it's double edged sword of a change I mean it ofc good for strand and stasis thingies but it's also bad for some other options that were kinetic like warden's law and malfeasance is getting this -15% debuff(so it's also kinda lucky pants nerf), mountain top, Imperial decree with trench barrel, succession and kinda arbalest as backup damage option in GoTD and also touch of malice

  • @mrkat8137
    @mrkat8137 20 днів тому +1759

    nerfing lament in a non sword meta is insane

    • @JGburneraccount
      @JGburneraccount 20 днів тому +166

      "oh no lament is too good for crotas end...we better nerf it" meanwhile there's like 3 bosses in the game you can actually use swords on, it's like they just want us to use legendary swords instead.

    • @revolvingzyclon6901
      @revolvingzyclon6901 20 днів тому +43

      ​@@JGburneraccount I only use lament on Atraks and the Galhran echo in Duality tf bungie smoking XD

    • @Kipricoffical
      @Kipricoffical 20 днів тому +39

      Lement is one of the 3 viable titan builds. Bungie hates titans. 😔

    • @Luke973T
      @Luke973T 20 днів тому +4

      You played the final shape already? That's crazy

    • @ExpressoPie
      @ExpressoPie 20 днів тому +23

      @@Luke973Tthey’d have to buff swords like hell in order for a sword meta to even be thought of for tfs

  • @Xth3Z
    @Xth3Z 20 днів тому +260

    Next update: We've realized that weapons still kill enemies, so we've set the damage output to 0 across the board.

  • @Another_Zephyr
    @Another_Zephyr 20 днів тому +584

    bungie really looked at helldivers and said "Man, look at how happy that community is with nerfs"

    • @corneliusblackwood9014
      @corneliusblackwood9014 20 днів тому +22

      I quit playing when they nerfed the bolt action, I played solo 9’s mostly and it totally screwed me.
      Came back to Destiny after 2 years, just wish I had some people to play with, Helldivers is fun solo, Destiny not so much.

    • @1ntothefray583
      @1ntothefray583 20 днів тому +14

      Literally more buffs than nerfs here. Yall boohooing too much lol.

    • @Ghostwithalisp
      @Ghostwithalisp 20 днів тому +56

      ​@@1ntothefray583 its the fact that those nerfs weren't needed Mr.Airhead

    • @kingz8075
      @kingz8075 20 днів тому +13

      ​@@1ntothefray583that isn't how you look at the overall game

    • @1ntothefray583
      @1ntothefray583 20 днів тому

      @@Ghostwithalisp this is bungie we’re talking about. The fact that you’re surprised says more about you than me. Haha

  • @arachniawebz6176
    @arachniawebz6176 20 днів тому +947

    Poor Osteo Striga 😔... and the Lament nerf was just plain disrespectful 😭

    • @insatiablenate3963
      @insatiablenate3963 20 днів тому +145

      All of the nerfs felt extremely unnecessary. Osteo is basically dead now and Lament's healing factor never felt that strong to begin with. I'm not entirely sure what the sandbox team at Bungie are smoking. "Adaptive Burst Linear Fusions are strong", sure Bungie.

    • @DMoney0413
      @DMoney0413 20 днів тому +31

      Linear Fusions not named Sleeper are garbage. The nerf that hit after season of the Hunt and again when Stormchaser was released and then again after Veist Stinger perk made them the least useful heavy weapon. They are now situational and GLs/Rockets have been the go-to for the last 7-8 seasons

    • @revolvingzyclon6901
      @revolvingzyclon6901 20 днів тому +5

      ​@insatiablenate3963 The only reason why lament's healing was "strong" is because the ease of access warlocks and titans have to restoration

    • @controlleronpceasywin2978
      @controlleronpceasywin2978 20 днів тому

      @@insatiablenate3963 adaptive burst are strong lol , they are missing the strongest perk that's all

    • @DtehHermit
      @DtehHermit 20 днів тому +13

      They owe us a yucky catalyst for Lament now...

  • @jadenyuki2031
    @jadenyuki2031 20 днів тому +509

    Buffing Bastion exotic fusion rifle is concerning, cause according to the sundial we will die while using that weapon lol.

    • @MrNooB-kb9gb
      @MrNooB-kb9gb 20 днів тому +13

      point 👉

    • @revolvingzyclon6901
      @revolvingzyclon6901 20 днів тому +8

      Still not going to use it XD

    • @lukegill6908
      @lukegill6908 20 днів тому +35

      My child, we create our own fate

    • @IlPinguonauta
      @IlPinguonauta 20 днів тому

      Im gonna punch the Witness out of existence

    • @atheon-
      @atheon- 20 днів тому +3

      ​@@lukegill6908, bud, don't compare me to the vaporhead

  • @Danivus
    @Danivus 20 днів тому +705

    Gotta love deconstruct being fun for the briefest possible time before they obliterated it.

    • @Jahsatracks
      @Jahsatracks 20 днів тому +1

      Fr

    • @revolvingzyclon6901
      @revolvingzyclon6901 20 днів тому +20

      Lament at launch: first time?

    • @ReeceRacc
      @ReeceRacc 20 днів тому +7

      I have an Albedo Wing with Replenishing Aegis and Deconstruct and i love it for sustained tanking, too bad they're kneecapping it

    • @sonnyankau9239
      @sonnyankau9239 20 днів тому +29

      bungie does the same thing every time they introduce something that's actually fun/useful. nerf it into the ground once players find a way to optimize it. they put 0 thought into anything they add to the game which is why most exotics suck and don't see use when they were once pretty good.

    • @julioforessi1336
      @julioforessi1336 20 днів тому +12

      I still don't really see the reason why. It wasn't available in any meta-breaking weapons, and for edge transit specifically it wasn't the objectively best option, so why make it into pretty much a useless perk given that it rolls in the 4th column

  • @Saber-tk8fp
    @Saber-tk8fp 20 днів тому +468

    I like how they're acting as if the buff on 1k made it usable

    • @Gravesyte
      @Gravesyte 20 днів тому +11

      I didn't realize it was buffed what did they do to it?

    • @none-vr6vr
      @none-vr6vr 20 днів тому +44

      ​@@Gravesyte more ammo

    • @Slattimir
      @Slattimir 20 днів тому +8

      I literally still haven’t touched it

    • @drewnader1726
      @drewnader1726 20 днів тому +6

      ​@Slattimir I use it on Legenday Dares of Eternity sometimes, because of the heavy ammo on rounds 2 and 3. But even there is doesn't really feel all that good. Not sure what the gun is supposed to be used for.

    • @Rinickulous1106
      @Rinickulous1106 20 днів тому +13

      This week in onslaught its nasty on bosses due to the surge. And its a guaranteed stun on unstoppable champions. And being able to draw a line on the floor for a group of trash mobs causing ignitions and destruction on them is very satisfying. Until the blueberry jumps on front of you. Im not saying omg its meta. But its nice to use something different for once

  • @robertetchingham7337
    @robertetchingham7337 20 днів тому +161

    Why am i not suprised darci wasnt brought up at all... they are terrified of that gun

    • @grsycatcarcass5042
      @grsycatcarcass5042 20 днів тому +21

      If Darci ever gets a buff we need to check on Bungie

    • @Fluffei22
      @Fluffei22 20 днів тому +3

      This made me laugh way harder than it shouldve

    • @mihajloristic4401
      @mihajloristic4401 20 днів тому +2

      @@Fluffei22i actually laughed out loud

    • @mazinhussein4297
      @mazinhussein4297 20 днів тому +1

      when will Mr. Darci get some love...

    • @dalektrekkie
      @dalektrekkie 19 днів тому +1

      Why tho? It's so pathetic in its current state that even if all they did was give it a mild damage buff it still wouldn't be a great dps option. I don't think they're afraid of it; I think they just keep forgetting it's there

  • @Mikoto_Suou
    @Mikoto_Suou 21 день тому +477

    giving symmetry eddy current instead of voltshot is really dumb even with the buff eddy current is a dead perk...

    • @Lorentz_Driver
      @Lorentz_Driver 20 днів тому +71

      It Def should volt on the homing projectiles

    • @wwr90
      @wwr90 20 днів тому +19

      Agree that it should voltshot, but I’m probably going to keep a few Eddy Current weapons now and see how they feel post buff

    • @carlosflores4179
      @carlosflores4179 20 днів тому +18

      Just make kill add stacks to revolution :(

    • @Or3nji
      @Or3nji 20 днів тому +27

      ​@@carlosflores4179
      THANK YOU. It's a pain in the ass to have to get precision hits on a rapid fire scout in pve unless you find a boss/miniboss to shoot at.

    • @revolvingzyclon6901
      @revolvingzyclon6901 20 днів тому +21

      They should've kept the bug that made the homing shots stun unstoppable champs then it would at least be usable

  • @Charlie092
    @Charlie092 20 днів тому +379

    i love sitting in the back of the map and chipping away at an orange bar with a pulse ❤ thx bungie

    • @solis7368
      @solis7368 20 днів тому +75

      They buffed damage against red bars like we dont already have 90 thousand ways of nuking them instantly LMAO. Not touching orange bars was classic bungie balancing

    • @DemonicDragon6
      @DemonicDragon6 20 днів тому +21

      @@solis7368 they're buffing pulses against everything by 20% and buffing them again against red bars by 15%

    • @ReeceRacc
      @ReeceRacc 20 днів тому +5

      They should make enemies seek out campers

    • @theSixPathsOfTrains
      @theSixPathsOfTrains 20 днів тому +4

      Yeah true I get tired of playing the distance game.

    • @sand_sand7304
      @sand_sand7304 20 днів тому +16

      @@ReeceRaccah yes, make GMs impossible for non-titans, why not give syntho a buff as well?

  • @OPCI_2501_V
    @OPCI_2501_V 20 днів тому +300

    Clearly, Bungie thinks there are still way too much Destiny players

    • @nathanpeterson5609
      @nathanpeterson5609 20 днів тому +15

      Only the people who are addicted to this game and keep playing it will actually pay attention to the blog post.

    • @arjunbaweja7755
      @arjunbaweja7755 20 днів тому +3

      Well: no. Only change I hate is deconstruct but I wonder why it was so important for them to change it

    • @jcpenny6310
      @jcpenny6310 20 днів тому

      @@arjunbaweja7755because it would almost double your reserves on edge transit if you lowered your mag size enough? it would probably have too much ammo convenience for the raid and in endgame

    • @dbhrgdb3638
      @dbhrgdb3638 20 днів тому

      HAHAHAHAHAHA..... Exactly!!!!!! I am so pissed on this Twid drop is as dumb and the name TWID!

    • @SovietAssault69
      @SovietAssault69 20 днів тому

      Literally. They are fucking up all of the great balance changes they've made in the last 6 months

  • @REVOIRREVOLVE
    @REVOIRREVOLVE 20 днів тому +71

    Saltgreppo is happy somewhere.

    • @mazinhussein4297
      @mazinhussein4297 19 днів тому +1

      divinity is no skill tho, back in my days in D1 we had to aim

    • @Tstory01.
      @Tstory01. 19 днів тому +1

      💀

  • @WarBovine
    @WarBovine 20 днів тому +81

    Bungle must have ties with Hasbro because its Nerf or nothing

  • @chickencoop5545
    @chickencoop5545 20 днів тому +120

    *After reading all of this info
    "Damn, Vex is getting a 3% nerf"

    • @juggaloxmuzicxify
      @juggaloxmuzicxify 20 днів тому

      😂😂😂

    • @ashleybekemeier1432
      @ashleybekemeier1432 20 днів тому +1

      did it say that it's getting a nerf?

    • @chickencoop5545
      @chickencoop5545 20 днів тому +4

      @@ashleybekemeier1432 no, it's just by looking at the numbers since all exotic primaries currently do that 40% extra damage to red bars but in the final shape they will do only 30% more but All fusion rifles are going to get a 7% buff which includes Vex so 30% + 7% = 37% instead of the current 40%
      But I also could be wrong and they could do the 30% and the 7% multiplied (1.3 x 1.07 = 1.391) but yeah thanks for coming to my nerdy ass Ted talk lol

    • @ashleybekemeier1432
      @ashleybekemeier1432 20 днів тому +3

      @@chickencoop5545 oh i see, thanks for elaborating. rip vex literally unusable

    • @Freddy-wf6yh
      @Freddy-wf6yh 20 днів тому

      @@chickencoop5545 as far as i know Vex didnt recieve the 40 procent dmg for red bars?

  • @Lopeez
    @Lopeez 20 днів тому +102

    Lament should not be getting a nerf whatsoever, it’s only used in 2 encounters and even then it’s not the best in those encounters. Highkey an L nerf

    • @JizzSock_
      @JizzSock_ 20 днів тому +16

      Nerf is due to upcoming raid encounter. Trust.

    • @Dad_Noir
      @Dad_Noir 20 днів тому

      If no one really uses it, why does it matter? Lol

    • @coreypark3244
      @coreypark3244 20 днів тому +6

      ​@@Dad_Noir it's only meta in two encounters, but lots of people use it in other scenarios just for fun. i like using lament whenever i get the chance because it's a different dps strategy to rockets or grenade launchers. for those people, this sucks, because it doesn't need the nerf. but their fun is gone or lessened.

  • @Trackaxion
    @Trackaxion 20 днів тому +218

    Div is getting nerfed. Well is getting nerfed. Izanagi is getting nerfed. What is the Final Shape Raid gonna be like?

    • @revolvingzyclon6901
      @revolvingzyclon6901 20 днів тому +25

      Easier than ron if they're nerfing div again XD

    • @chrisdavison4915
      @chrisdavison4915 20 днів тому +11

      Raids gonna be nerfed to lmao

    • @nullandvoid7524
      @nullandvoid7524 20 днів тому +2

      Still Izi GL/Whisper with Div.

    • @ThatRetardedNeighbour
      @ThatRetardedNeighbour 20 днів тому

      Day one raid I’ll always rock outbreak , and it just got buffed as well so that’s nice

    • @emti29
      @emti29 20 днів тому +1

      This game, i swear.

  • @athenawiltfong5717
    @athenawiltfong5717 21 день тому +284

    I hope they increase the damage output to match with the enemy toughness. When Lightfall dropped, they definitely made the enemies tougher. It made for frustrating gameplay.

    • @firstnamelastname4752
      @firstnamelastname4752 20 днів тому +79

      Literally why I never ever do explore on Neomuna. Why bother doing something that grindy when the rewards are not commensurate.

    • @illusiveelk2558
      @illusiveelk2558 20 днів тому +77

      Bungie: "we want to reduce ability spam and increase gun usage"
      Also Bungie: *implements enemies that tank entire magazines and require ability spam to effectively kill*
      I don't always explore neomuna, but when I do, I bring an aggressive shotgun with discord.

    • @jamesmack9598
      @jamesmack9598 20 днів тому +16

      Wait... Do people find Neomuna difficult?

    • @ReeceRacc
      @ReeceRacc 20 днів тому +71

      @@jamesmack9598 Longer enemy TTKs does not mean harder. It means less fun

    • @capnnslapaho-5644
      @capnnslapaho-5644 20 днів тому +4

      Get good didn’t have an issue

  • @qg9953
    @qg9953 20 днів тому +67

    That colony buff is straight out of a horror game/movie the nightmare flashbacks 😱

    • @TheNeoVid
      @TheNeoVid 19 днів тому +1

      "Cross was found dead in his room last night."
      "What got him?"
      "Colony grenade. They're persistent little bastards."

  • @ElementZephyr
    @ElementZephyr 20 днів тому +26

    Truth has one of two paths:
    1. The Mega Generic Exotic. Basically, max stats. High stability, handling, reload speed, 3 in the mag, and auto-reload on catalyst.
    2. Lean into D1 Truth. Mega aggressive D1 tracking, huge proximity detection and giant blast radius to catch targets you didn't directly hit.

  • @MM-he2iq
    @MM-he2iq 20 днів тому +237

    If I’m being honest, this patch took a lot of the winds out of my sails that Into The Light gave. A number of my favorite weapons got huge nerfs. Dang

    • @JGburneraccount
      @JGburneraccount 20 днів тому

      Sam brother. Its dumb asf.

    • @jackalexande
      @jackalexande 20 днів тому +12

      at the end of the day it's just a game so I'm not rlly upset abt it

    • @LiamUraafe
      @LiamUraafe 20 днів тому +119

      @@jackalexandeat the end of the day this is a game people play to have fun. These changes do not look fun. Period.

    • @theSixPathsOfTrains
      @theSixPathsOfTrains 20 днів тому +10

      ​@@jackalexande
      Football is a "game" as well and you see all the xrap from that. 🤣

    • @vanessaoftheundead2613
      @vanessaoftheundead2613 20 днів тому +37

      @@jackalexandeare people not allowed to be passionate about something they like? Just because it’s a game? lol

  • @yeetus-8383
    @yeetus-8383 20 днів тому +14

    This is such a weird weapon pass considering the power creep of prismatic. Also the Sunshot and Polaris ones seem like an oversight, like they forgot they are only as cracked as they are right now because of artefact

  • @treysmith9371
    @treysmith9371 20 днів тому +17

    Can they please just make queenbreaker an energy weapon again. It has no business being in the heavy slot

    • @chrisberg7862
      @chrisberg7862 17 днів тому +1

      Just had this conversation last night lol

    • @treysmith9371
      @treysmith9371 17 днів тому

      @@chrisberg7862 I used to use it all the time for fun in 6v6 back in D1. Nowadays I don’t even thinks there’s one in my vault. It never had much utility in pve and will be far from a meta option even after these changes. Making it a power weapon just hurt the only place where it saw usage

  • @Lorentz_Driver
    @Lorentz_Driver 20 днів тому +358

    These buffs do not make up for the horrid nerfs. It's about to feel awful.

    • @insatiablenate3963
      @insatiablenate3963 20 днів тому +92

      Honestly, the nerfs felt targeted and unnecessary. Sunshot and Polaris were already gonna feel worse when this season ended, but now they're gonna feel like shit. Wave frame grenade launchers don't feel good in above-level content, but now they're gonna be damn near unusable.
      Osteo is literally fucking dead, tragic as hell. Thorn and Necrotic Grips are better now in every way imaginable. Lament getting smacked like it is and Bungie not even bothering to fix its tracking feels personal.

    • @jrdead8333
      @jrdead8333 20 днів тому +19

      People are going to use thorn with necro and than they are going to nerf poison and thorn in the next few months. I’m sad 😢

    • @revolvingzyclon6901
      @revolvingzyclon6901 20 днів тому +32

      ​@@insatiablenate3963 Lament out here catching strays from Bungie lmao

    • @ChaozMatt
      @ChaozMatt 20 днів тому +15

      @@insatiablenate3963 sunshot will NOT feel bad lmao but yeah its defo some heavy and wierd nerfs

    • @ThermalSpace
      @ThermalSpace 20 днів тому +2

      Get a life

  • @RetroWaveDave
    @RetroWaveDave 21 день тому +116

    My man, keeping up with content even on vacation with the family. Appreciate you.

    • @willwill2548
      @willwill2548 21 день тому +5

      He's the most humble D2 youtuber 👌

    • @fixeuskeane
      @fixeuskeane 20 днів тому +1

      Its his livelihood😂 lol

    • @Juulzyn
      @Juulzyn 20 днів тому +4

      He's touring Bungie for the Final Shape, not on family vaca lol

  • @AurelieAris
    @AurelieAris 20 днів тому +64

    It didn't seem to mention it here, but I'm pretty sure when they first spoke of the new Necrochasm catalyst, they also mentioned that, unlike One For All, you could actually refresh the Duration on this buff as much as ya want, which is pretty rad

  • @kylekent706
    @kylekent706 20 днів тому +55

    No Tarrabah buff while Necrochasm is gonna be running rampant everywhere is WILD

    • @wintereclipse3263
      @wintereclipse3263 20 днів тому +5

      Tarrabah recently destroyed pvp and was a near top pve exotic Necrochasm released in a spot where despite being good people were calling it bad and it had next to no usage so it's getting a buff. Also bungie said back with in season of the seraph I think it was the reason they don't touch tarrabah much is because the thing is on a thin line between completely broken and useless.

    • @JeremyMikstay
      @JeremyMikstay 20 днів тому +21

      @@wintereclipse3263tarrabah has never been a top pve gun lmao

    • @wintereclipse3263
      @wintereclipse3263 20 днів тому +1

      @@JeremyMikstay I said near. It had dps matching some of the top specials at the time and some of the best ad clearing. It started dropping when other weapons got buffed but for a short time it was a powerhouse capable of nearly 1 phasing a bunch of raid bosses

    • @kylekent706
      @kylekent706 20 днів тому +4

      @wintereclipse3263 it was never a top PVE weapon. It was out shined by recluse since day one. It's never had the spotlight in PVE. While in PVP, it was a menace for sure, but fuck it. Let em buff it for the final shape and give us some fun. As of now, I would take recluse over it still. Probably any other smg as well to be fair. It's cool when it works, but even throwing a battery in onslaught makes you lose half your charge. It's outta control.

    • @svenM-xk3jl
      @svenM-xk3jl 20 днів тому +1

      Give it incedecant

  • @jackal273
    @jackal273 20 днів тому +35

    This why i haven't pre ordered

  • @CuteDeadlyBunny
    @CuteDeadlyBunny 19 днів тому +5

    The nerfing of splash damage to the 4 exotics popular this season is WEIRD! How did the dev team just forget about their own seasonal mods that made these weapons excel into the “you’re dumb to not use it” category

  • @Budge-ip9kw
    @Budge-ip9kw 20 днів тому +89

    The Lament and Izangi nerfs are the only things I don’t understand, osteo was a bit weird too tho 😐

    • @taylerphoenix9388
      @taylerphoenix9388 20 днів тому +3

      Could have at least let izi keep the 7% buff, pointless.

    • @Wad3y
      @Wad3y 20 днів тому

      bc theyre busted?

    • @pooPbutwhole
      @pooPbutwhole 20 днів тому +44

      @@Wad3ywe are not playing the same game

    • @simplyfitness892
      @simplyfitness892 20 днів тому

      Iznagi was dps meta so made sense.

    • @dominikobaa8710
      @dominikobaa8710 20 днів тому

      In what world are those weapons not busted? Osteo had easiest adclear in the game, divinity is still a must pick, and half the players still izi swap beacose of how good the dps is

  • @ReeceRacc
    @ReeceRacc 20 днів тому +23

    Currently devastated about the Deconstruct nerf. I have an Albedo Wing with Replenishing Aegis and Deconstruct and it had SUPERB sustained tanking.
    Absolutely sucks that they decided to nerf it instead of fixing the bug with explosive weapons.

  • @PolarHL
    @PolarHL 20 днів тому +107

    The deconstruct nerf is understandable but also incredibly frustrating.

    • @Guile_The_Exile
      @Guile_The_Exile 20 днів тому +31

      For a perk that no one was using, it's extremely undeserving of a nerf.

    • @july7863
      @july7863 20 днів тому +3

      All that grinding for that damm tusk of the boar… what a sick joke😢

    • @mc_K
      @mc_K 20 днів тому +12

      Just spent 4 weeks grinding out an edge transit with sticky nades, cascade and deconstruct for them to gut it the next day. Dope.

    • @pooPbutwhole
      @pooPbutwhole 20 днів тому +2

      @@mc_Kliterally got mine a few days back, gonna get deleted now most likely

    • @everythingtankpit
      @everythingtankpit 20 днів тому +6

      Another dead perk like 80% of the perks in the game. More fucking trash to fill their rng slot machine to make it that much harder to get anything useable like 7-9 perk column 3&4 wasn’t enough

  • @Scott-ep1kx
    @Scott-ep1kx 20 днів тому +7

    This is exactly why I haven’t gotten the final shape. All these unneeded nerfs. Why grind for weapons just to have them nerfed and made worthless

  • @IronyMan34
    @IronyMan34 20 днів тому +7

    All I got from this is that Bungie thinks having fun is bad and decided to nerf everything into the ground.

  • @Mr.Scratch-.-.-.-.-665
    @Mr.Scratch-.-.-.-.-665 20 днів тому +36

    Bungie: Grave Robber needs some extra Love
    .... Sealed Ahamkaras die in a Corner and Explode.

    • @revolvingzyclon6901
      @revolvingzyclon6901 20 днів тому +3

      Let's be honest here you aint using sealed grasps ever unless they get a rework

    • @Mr.Scratch-.-.-.-.-665
      @Mr.Scratch-.-.-.-.-665 20 днів тому +11

      @@revolvingzyclon6901 Yes i even gave Bungie multiple rework ideas but they won't listen to my Yapping so you will have to do.
      Thematicly similar to Ahamkara Spine i woud make it so that Sealed Ahamkara Grasps replace your Melee ability:
      - Ahamkaras Claw
      A strong powerd Melee AoE Cleave that can Hit Multiple Targets that adapts to your subclass.
      Hits with the Powerd Melee refill all weapons.
      Multikills (2-3 Targets + more) Overflows all Weapons Magazines (all exept Heavy if first is too unbalanced)
      Gives a chunk of melee energy based on Enemys Hit/Killed (depends on Balance).
      Normal Melee still functions like "Nightmare Fule" powerd Melee Kills and Finisher give you some melee energy.

  • @kalebanderson7483
    @kalebanderson7483 20 днів тому +21

    There is zero reason for div to be nerfed (it’s a player sacrificing their entire dps for ease of use). This is ridiculous.

    • @BigKrisco
      @BigKrisco 20 днів тому +2

      My only theory is that the raid must’ve been too easy during play testing; maybe easier than RoN w/ some of the weapon changes.

    • @kalebanderson7483
      @kalebanderson7483 20 днів тому

      @@BigKrisco I highly doubt the test found div to be the most optimal. The only way I see that happening is if the boss is either moving a shit ton or not at all.

    • @artur3306
      @artur3306 20 днів тому +3

      It's not that big of a nerf... do you even understand what these numbers mean?
      75% more ammo to get the cage is nothing. It goes from 9 bullets do 16 bullets to generate the cage. It has a 1000 rpm... wich means it takes 0.42 seconds longer. it literally dosent matter

  • @OneNubNinja
    @OneNubNinja 20 днів тому +28

    All I got from this is that Sweaty Confetti is back. 🎉🎉

    • @Xarcell
      @Xarcell 20 днів тому +4

      I am thinking this too.

  • @nullandvoid7524
    @nullandvoid7524 20 днів тому +20

    Outbreak is about to be the most used PVE Primary in Final Shape. It's kinetic which builds Transcendance the fastest and with that 20% buff it's going to cook literally everything.

    • @coreypark3244
      @coreypark3244 20 днів тому +4

      kinetics got nerfed, not buffed

    • @keich7920
      @keich7920 20 днів тому +6

      @@coreypark3244 Reread what they said and reread the patch section on pulse rifles

    • @shadowblu77
      @shadowblu77 20 днів тому

      Yea I may have to cook a Chromatic Fire build for it ngl

    • @nullandvoid7524
      @nullandvoid7524 20 днів тому

      @@coreypark3244 Man can't do elementary school level math, that's tough

    • @rubymoonlight1102
      @rubymoonlight1102 20 днів тому +3

      Yeah until everyone starts using it and that will get nerfed like everything else people use the most smh

  • @LakerTriangle
    @LakerTriangle 20 днів тому +79

    Absolutely hate nerfing so many weapons at once with all the other changes coming to the game.

  • @PopularNobody
    @PopularNobody 20 днів тому +53

    Everything being nerfed is what happens when the sweats complain about difficultly consistently

  • @musicaltarrasque
    @musicaltarrasque 21 день тому +65

    My heal clip incandescent Jurassic Green looking to be up in value

    • @revolvingzyclon6901
      @revolvingzyclon6901 20 днів тому +38

      0 times anything is still 0 sorry

    • @Xarcell
      @Xarcell 20 днів тому

      Wish I had it. Never got heal clip with my incandescent rolls.

    • @lordsucuk9316
      @lordsucuk9316 20 днів тому +4

      I would love to love that gun, but unfortunately it feels like the most inacurrate and jumpy peashooter they ever created

    • @jayxlll7309
      @jayxlll7309 20 днів тому +4

      I’m gonna craft the adhorative today it gets heal clip incandescent

    • @HighCharityYT
      @HighCharityYT 20 днів тому

      @@Xarcell Adhorative is craftable and can get heal/incan :)

  • @supersizesenpai
    @supersizesenpai 20 днів тому +24

    Supremacy with bait and switch is gonna be a must use during DPS phases with kinetics getting that nerf.

    • @nullandvoid7524
      @nullandvoid7524 20 днів тому +20

      Supremacy is still getting a 7% buff to make up that slight nerf.
      Also Kinetic Tremors with Rewind Rounds>>>>Bait and Switch

    • @revolvingzyclon6901
      @revolvingzyclon6901 20 днів тому +2

      ​@@nullandvoid7524 Fourth times/Rewind rounds > kinetic tremors/rewind rounds lmao

    • @pirate135246
      @pirate135246 20 днів тому +14

      @@revolvingzyclon6901if you are a bot that doesn’t swap then yeah lmao

    • @yashugoyal1772
      @yashugoyal1772 20 днів тому +7

      ​@@revolvingzyclon6901 Try using your heavy for damage maybe

    • @Wad3y
      @Wad3y 20 днів тому

      @@yashugoyal1772if youre on tractor, ghorn or dragons breath u wanna use supremacy or ikelos

  • @pharma_weeb1175
    @pharma_weeb1175 20 днів тому +18

    gonna get rid of a lot of my deconstruct weapons now

    • @demonfox51321
      @demonfox51321 20 днів тому +3

      Probably just put them in vault never use them

  • @chillhour6155
    @chillhour6155 20 днів тому +21

    Osteos overflow already takes too long to poc where you essentially need to wait for enemies to die and also not accidentally reload at th end of the bas magazine, why don't they fix that instead

    • @Lctl10
      @Lctl10 20 днів тому +6

      100000% Agree. Its absolutely the worst part of the gun (otherwise super fun) and now this bullshit.
      I swear bungie have a boner against actual fun gunplay and instead of making other guns fun and competitive, they rather take the lazy route and nerf to force you into playstyles you *don't* enjoy

  • @jordanliwosz
    @jordanliwosz 20 днів тому +61

    When does Bungie replace the full auto perk on guns that still have them??

    • @silvverskyy4582
      @silvverskyy4582 20 днів тому +1

      I know right

    • @evo3481
      @evo3481 20 днів тому +9

      And remove the full auto mod they got rid of boss spec and kept full auto?

    • @yashugoyal1772
      @yashugoyal1772 20 днів тому +9

      ​@@evo3481 It's for people who don't want full auto on all weapons, and only a select few. They don't have to compromise on losing some damage by not using spec mods now.

    • @kurtisdeakin
      @kurtisdeakin 20 днів тому

      Lol! A fix for something that doesn't touch the economy? Keep waiting

    • @Wad3y
      @Wad3y 20 днів тому +2

      @@yashugoyal1772yea but you’re throwing if you arent using full auto

  • @itsreapernecrosis2215
    @itsreapernecrosis2215 20 днів тому +75

    Trying to make the new raid seem harder than it has to be.

    • @subzero308
      @subzero308 20 днів тому +41

      Yup that's bungies "difficulty" nerf everything and make enemies bullet sponges and then make us do less damage... Smh trash

    • @jeffjameson5082
      @jeffjameson5082 20 днів тому +14

      Exactly. It’s so obvious it’s hilarious. Seems my hopes for the raid might be too high

    • @r0main.895
      @r0main.895 20 днів тому +2

      None of DPS the meta weapon have been nerfed and primary overall do more damage especially relative to exotics which mean zaoli and Luna are gonna be even more potent for endgame for example. You just got overwhelmed.

    • @aygaion2295
      @aygaion2295 20 днів тому +4

      ​@@r0main.895the dlc havent released yet, expect meta weapons nerf on release lmao, i swear you bungie throaters like to to forget who bungie is and what they tend to do.

    • @r0main.895
      @r0main.895 20 днів тому +1

      @@aygaion2295 I mean it doesn’t work like that, for each big event you have one TWID for weapon adjustments and one for exotic armors and abilities. what we learned is what we will get for final shape then it will change for each episodes following. It was like this for every seasons this year

  • @brycepersons7575
    @brycepersons7575 20 днів тому +14

    I cant wait to use Outbreak with the pulse buff in TFS. It already feels extremely good this season. Using it with Wewind Wounds and another 20% damage buff is gonna be wild

    • @JGburneraccount
      @JGburneraccount 20 днів тому +13

      They are going to nerf outbreak in 6 months. That's how Bungie deals with things, this is shit.

    • @gamingoverlord8854
      @gamingoverlord8854 20 днів тому

      One part, kinetics do build anything faster. It builds both bars at the same time at half the speed, or one bar at normal speed if the other is full. (Before accounting for the fragment)

  • @mooch1583
    @mooch1583 20 днів тому +5

    Collective Obligation getting nothing but buffs since it came out is crazy

  • @flop7121
    @flop7121 21 день тому +169

    Latest TWAB in history fr

  • @felwinterpeak1674
    @felwinterpeak1674 20 днів тому +14

    So may 22 we'll see the "Frost armor" and other stasis updates, hopefully. Been 5 months when Aztecross showed that twab.

    • @chrisotoole82
      @chrisotoole82 20 днів тому +1

      We saw frost armour active in a vid on new map few weeks back it seems to stack guy had it at x4

    • @felwinterpeak1674
      @felwinterpeak1674 20 днів тому +1

      @chrisotoole82 yeah but what does it do? I'm sure it like barrier in a way, but we don't know it yet.

  • @bdub846
    @bdub846 20 днів тому +2

    Not sure if anyone else noticed this but along with the recent changes to 450 pulses and the new damage in TFS, Bad juju might be a go to pick for a primary. I believe bad juju and huckleberry are the only weapons with the original rampage damage scaler which is up to 60%? So when juju revs up you’re probably looking at almost 90%+ more damage to red bar/enemies.

  • @genzu6388
    @genzu6388 20 днів тому +25

    Next patch notes: 'we've increased health across the board by 87,930% for enemy combatants"

    • @gamingoverlord8854
      @gamingoverlord8854 20 днів тому +4

      The next patch notes after that: We hear players and are reducing enemy combatant health by 5%. We feel this allows players to still use the weapons they know and love while also not trivializing content

    • @genzu6388
      @genzu6388 20 днів тому +4

      @@gamingoverlord8854 patch notes after that: We feel as though the 0.01% uptime on abilities and supers is too high in the current sandbox, so we will be reducing their function to be purely aesthetic to 'compliment' the gunplay.

  • @Angelux51
    @Angelux51 21 день тому +63

    Wow, no Ticcus Divination buff

    • @Falconer5752
      @Falconer5752 20 днів тому +62

      Sorry, best we can do is nerf Osteo a 3rd time and make Lament a blue sword.

    • @benstanfill363
      @benstanfill363 20 днів тому +11

      I just want a tiny bit of scorch on hip fire. So many things can be triggered by the smallest bit of scorch.

    • @perooo8526
      @perooo8526 20 днів тому +11

      And Devils Ruin. If only the laser mode would apply scorche.

    • @artur3306
      @artur3306 20 днів тому +5

      ​@@perooo8526 they should make devils a special sidearm like indebted kindness from warlords ruin

    • @XepherTim
      @XepherTim 20 днів тому +2

      @@perooo8526 And hitting the whole laser burst causes an ignition, imagine...

  • @riatsila144
    @riatsila144 20 днів тому +11

    Sunshot has probably been my favorite weapon since year 1.
    This is gonna hurt.

    • @rayne217
      @rayne217 20 днів тому +13

      Not at all lmao. The gun will feel the same, you're going to feel the lack of artifact mods, not the 10% aoe damage nerf.

    • @chrisbarnesbarnes8332
      @chrisbarnesbarnes8332 20 днів тому +4

      Sunshot was absolute shit back in year 1😂. So if it was your favorite weapon before its massive buff idk how in the hell this would change your opinion on using it

    • @EepyGirlLava
      @EepyGirlLava 20 днів тому

      w h a t. It was shit for so long, think for a second here, if you liked it back THEN, it only became worth using pretty presently, and ittl be way better than it used to be.

    • @riatsila144
      @riatsila144 20 днів тому

      @@rayne217 hopefully it'll still light up rooms just fine.

  • @Ryutix
    @Ryutix 20 днів тому +18

    I've always loved eriana's, Ignition on a shield break sounds so beautiful

    • @raptoreagle2000
      @raptoreagle2000 20 днів тому +5

      Ammo economy is still ass tho..

    • @TheInfamousS
      @TheInfamousS 20 днів тому +3

      ​@@raptoreagle2000 Still won't one shot barriers either so it'll stay dismantled over here 🗣🤦😂

    • @wkgates
      @wkgates 20 днів тому +1

      I love eriana's, but really wished the unstoppable hand cannon mod worked on it 😭

    • @TheInfamousS
      @TheInfamousS 20 днів тому

      @@wkgates That would have single handedly saved it when Unstoppable Hand Cannon came out just for the utility alone. But nah... Bungie killed that dream fast. 😭👎😭

    • @gallien
      @gallien 20 днів тому

      Agree but put on the right mods if you're in Solar spec and you have 38 shots in reserve.

  • @maxenders8089
    @maxenders8089 20 днів тому +3

    At this point bungie just forgot that Daci even exists

  • @kkami6231
    @kkami6231 20 днів тому +32

    these nerfs are ridiculous, im dreading the armor nerfs in the next twab😭😭

    • @gamingoverlord8854
      @gamingoverlord8854 20 днів тому

      I'm expecting something that makes it where people don't feel forced to run surges (in Raids and such)

  • @Sodamachine62
    @Sodamachine62 20 днів тому +5

    They nerf things that are being abused BECAUSE OF THE ARTIFACT MOD. By themselves their average or above average weapons but not broken

  • @thelordsergei
    @thelordsergei 20 днів тому +32

    I’m a lucky pants hunter so hearing that the Wardens law got a massive nerf for no damn reason after grinding for it just makes me so bummed…
    Honestly kinda took the wind out of me man…

    • @kyanmatena3948
      @kyanmatena3948 20 днів тому

      well time for you to grind the new 2 burst weapon thats coming with final shape :)

    • @UndeadCheetah
      @UndeadCheetah 20 днів тому

      I can't find anything about this nerf, what was the nerf? Cause if true I will be going back to never touching hunter as Lucky Pants is the only reason I play that class.

    • @raptoreagle2000
      @raptoreagle2000 20 днів тому +4

      @@UndeadCheetah kinetic weapons got nerfed against bosses.

    • @1shaggy123
      @1shaggy123 20 днів тому +9

      @@UndeadCheetah Also, Handcannon lost boss spec and did not get the 7.7% buff to match against bosses. They onlty got a 5% buff vs red bars. So, Wardens law lost 15% or more against bosses with Lucky Pants. Crappy

  • @reyth9887
    @reyth9887 20 днів тому +15

    The amount of nerfs does not outweigh the buffs, mostly because the nerfs we're getting were NOT needed in the slightest. Lament was just stupid, Osteo Striga might genuinely be a dead exotic now. Hey here's a cool exotic smg designed entirely around ad-clear, now hows about we add a fucking 4 second cooldown to the ad-clear part of the gun??? Fucking stupid as hell

  • @insomniaddictesp
    @insomniaddictesp 20 днів тому +4

    I’m so glad I didn’t chase deconstruct, man, I just knew Bungie wasn’t going to let this live like that.

  • @TheEverydayGamer1000
    @TheEverydayGamer1000 20 днів тому +5

    Repulsor/Destablizing Elsie’s Rifle stocks are up baby

  • @deejayy8303
    @deejayy8303 20 днів тому +28

    Bungie sure knows how to blow your high huh?!

    • @kurtisdeakin
      @kurtisdeakin 20 днів тому +7

      That's the bungie we know and hate. What happened to desperate bungie, hungry to please us and lure us back? They dropped that mask quickly

  • @rockkyboyo
    @rockkyboyo 20 днів тому +48

    Osteo, never forget 2022-2024 😢

  • @arod304
    @arod304 20 днів тому +3

    Why is bungie doing Kinetic to snipers.We grind for these weapons to have fun and feel powerful

  • @ThePackman627
    @ThePackman627 20 днів тому +3

    BTW they mentioned that:
    "Also note that, because Exotic weapons can't equip mods, this gives them a larger relative buff than Legendaries, e.g., Riskrunner's maximum possible damage is increased 10% versus red bars, but Shayura's Wrath's is increased by 3% in effect because it can no longer slot a Minor Spec mod. "
    So take all of these buffs, and take off 7% since the spec mods are going away. For example, autos are getting a 15% buff to red bars, but if you've always ran minor spec on your auto, the buff will be more like 6-7%

    • @shinydreemurr5470
      @shinydreemurr5470 20 днів тому

      Further note on the riskrunner comparison. It actually doesn't get a damage change going into fs due to exotic primarys are going from 40% to 30% bonus vs redbars. It literally doesn't change it's damage profile vs redbars in pve going in FS.

  • @mybags_a_dragon
    @mybags_a_dragon 20 днів тому +4

    I use blast furnace with firefly zen moment now and it’s gng to be better.

  • @Handlesaretrash
    @Handlesaretrash 20 днів тому +2

    Still need to undo that stupid nerf they did on Young Aham Spine, I miss my tripmine PvE build

  • @DarthSpiderMario
    @DarthSpiderMario 20 днів тому +7

    Personally very happy that they’re renaming the Adaptive Burst Sidearms to differentiate them from the non-burst frame archetype of the same previous name, that tilted me so much

  • @AzureSapphires
    @AzureSapphires 20 днів тому +5

    Best Lament combo is 2 lights + 1 heavy, its fast and its good for damage.

  • @nicholaswilliams3323
    @nicholaswilliams3323 20 днів тому +2

    the kinetic nerf was dumb.. shoulda been a stasis and strand buff to bring them up to the boss damage numbers instead imo

  • @richardcarson3596
    @richardcarson3596 20 днів тому +3

    If they make the weaken for deterministic chaos 30 percent like tractor cannon it will be come meta overnight.

  • @elmenda1237
    @elmenda1237 20 днів тому +4

    My only actual concern is the reduction of the splash damage of both Polaris lance (I just realized that the weapon is REALLY good) and Sunshot (One of my main weapons) but solar being solar i think it will be fine... Also, is pretty obvius that they are nerfing Osteo so we use Necrochasm instead for the same build. And the lament buff... dang, I just got the weapon, welp, onto Sleeper simulant again.

  • @stuffandthings617
    @stuffandthings617 20 днів тому +3

    I try to get collective in this weeks Pantheon... just have to find a group who is able to do it 🙈

  • @centy4773
    @centy4773 20 днів тому

    24:50 Whatever catalyst that Tessellation has to be something Prismatic related if Quicksilver Storm is anything to go off of, and I bet it’ll be some huge multi-elemental explosion when a Transcendence grenade is consumed like Cross said.

  • @jordanhill7162
    @jordanhill7162 20 днів тому +2

    so what could this mean for all the videos that have been made about which weapons to bring to final shape? that has all changed now right?

  • @X0QZ666
    @X0QZ666 20 днів тому +52

    No nerf to conditional in pvp after all this time blows my mind. Enough is Enough

    • @benodoms5181
      @benodoms5181 20 днів тому +15

      Conditional is fucking unreal. Every twab where it isn't nerfed takes a year off my life, and I don't think I'll make it out my 20s

    • @nullandvoid7524
      @nullandvoid7524 20 днів тому +29

      Crucible will suck regardless.
      Any change they make to it will gut it in PVE.
      Just remove Crucible so the sandbox can actually be fun, enough is enough.

    • @Lord-Hossa
      @Lord-Hossa 20 днів тому +24

      @@nullandvoid7524just because you suck at PvP doesn’t mean it needs to be removed. People still enjoy Crucible whether you like it or not. Destiny doesn’t survive without PvP

    • @thatloner2831
      @thatloner2831 20 днів тому +9

      I don't touch crucible for obvious reasons but I do hear that it's one of the only things keeping wells and bubbles in check from dominating so a nerf would probably make things worse.

    • @arthur_pd
      @arthur_pd 20 днів тому +1

      They should just nerf the shotguns handling, then it can be felt I pvp, not so in pve

  • @sherky7207
    @sherky7207 20 днів тому +6

    While we are getting some pretty serious nerfs (and some of them hurt me on a personal level), I'm intrigued to see how some of those newly buffed exotics will perform... Colony especially seems to be getting some pretty insane ad-clear potential, so I look forward to it, and that Eriana's Vow buff is looking pretty juicy for obvious reasons. Also, with the changes coming to pulse rifles, I'm very excited to see how something like Outbreak Perfected, or even Bad Juju (I love how that gun looks ok) will perform!

    • @kurtisdeakin
      @kurtisdeakin 20 днів тому +6

      Chase the ever shifting meta! No don't look at the story or state of the game, forget the lack of content, just keep focusing on our forced changes to the sodding meta.

    • @synth3431
      @synth3431 20 днів тому +7

      ​@@kurtisdeakinwomp womp

    • @daveb7049
      @daveb7049 20 днів тому +1

      You’ll use colony once, realise it does the same thing as a volt shot indebted kindness and shard it again.

    • @dominikobaa8710
      @dominikobaa8710 20 днів тому

      "Nooooooooo.... Someone is happy and enjoying the changes we cant have that!!!" Is what that guy sounds like. Quit the game if you dont enjoy it. I think its in pretty nice state right now after lightfall slog of seasons, and the needs (except for lament) are justified.

    • @asaabed4200
      @asaabed4200 20 днів тому +1

      @@kurtisdeakinman, allow yourself to enjoy stuff. I feel like some people just force themselves to hate something, which in turn reduces any other fun they would’ve had to almost 0. Of course there are issues with the game, and you are right to hold concerns about those things, it’s important to! But this dude was literally just expressing excitement for some upcoming changes that they like, you don’t need to be spreading your destiny doomsday-ism to everyone and everything

  • @bdub846
    @bdub846 20 днів тому +2

    Soo…legendary rockets and grenade launchers got somewhat of a nerf. You can no longer add damage spec mods to them and they didn’t mention a universal increase damage to either. I guess you could slot in adept mag, but that only applies to GL’s and nobody really goes for that if envious assassin is an option.

  • @MrTmm97
    @MrTmm97 19 днів тому +1

    3:13 so fusions, snipers, and glaives are remaining are at 7% being equal to major, boss, and adept big ones spec.
    Lines Fusion rifles are only getting a 5% buff… meaning they are actually being nerfed FURTHER. Not by a lot but the nerfs add up. Not to mention they are all a nerf when compared to Taken Spec.

  • @zedsdead9982
    @zedsdead9982 21 день тому +60

    Man the Nerfs 😢

  • @Cerberus1141
    @Cerberus1141 21 день тому +49

    Cerberus +1 is gonna be meta in PvP

    • @Aztesticals
      @Aztesticals 20 днів тому +2

      I already knew this year's ago. It's always been good. Just requires an entirely new playstyle

    • @Cerberus1141
      @Cerberus1141 20 днів тому +3

      @@Aztesticals I have 10k kills on Cerberus +1

    • @naiveveg8447
      @naiveveg8447 20 днів тому +2

      Don't like the change.
      Those alt fire shots could really tear up a team when everything went right.
      How does this benefit it pve is the real question?
      Give the damn thing one for all already..

    • @Cerberus1141
      @Cerberus1141 20 днів тому +1

      @naiveveg8447 it does 40% more damage in Alt Fire, so it will be busted kill clip bc less spread and more damage

    • @rileymoffatt7702
      @rileymoffatt7702 20 днів тому

      I stoked it’s been my favourite exotic since it dropped

  • @jvsilky7199
    @jvsilky7199 20 днів тому

    You can also craft the neomuna wave frame with enhanced chain reaction for even stronger effects! But hullabaloo is too fun to say

  • @kingofpaty
    @kingofpaty 20 днів тому +2

    I think a interesting change to truth would be that it weakens Targets and target that get hit by it are revealed with the true sight effect for the whole team 17:52

  • @frostbyte8835
    @frostbyte8835 20 днів тому +11

    What's the odds Bungie is sunsetting optional weapon mods only to reintroduce it to us later and make us grind for them. Or even weapons that accept the new damage mods.

  • @willster947
    @willster947 20 днів тому +9

    That nerf to Lament can only mean one thing….catalyst coming!

    • @ScottHChen
      @ScottHChen 20 днів тому

      We should all hope so!

    • @--6616
      @--6616 20 днів тому

      Watch it be vorpal lol. I swear I’d blow my nuts off and die.

    • @bluepants7338
      @bluepants7338 20 днів тому +1

      It probably because of a raid encounter tbh

  • @Strii34
    @Strii34 20 днів тому +2

    There probably doing this to prevent the final raid of destiny getting shit on in like a 2 hr completion on day 1.

  • @Yxezo_Don
    @Yxezo_Don 20 днів тому +2

    I love the necrochasm buff but why not make is take advantage of substisence by fully reloading the mag instead of reload speed

  • @threeofjays6420
    @threeofjays6420 20 днів тому +4

    Personally yeah they did too many nerfs ro justify the buffs balance

  • @Shigure2023_
    @Shigure2023_ 20 днів тому +4

    Will Lucky Pants Kinetic handcannons still be effective? I currently use Malfeasance most of the time with lucky pants

    • @buff5081
      @buff5081 20 днів тому

      In final shape there will be a new Strand Handcannon like wardens law, maybe it will have better perks so it could be better than wardens law. Sooo maybe lucky pants will still be effective

  • @teddygunzbarno2102
    @teddygunzbarno2102 20 днів тому +2

    This is why I didn't order FS because alot of the nerfs have to do with Prismatic bungie is like this will be to power when u use an exotic it sould feel good instead nerfs to the grave

  • @Alassandros
    @Alassandros 20 днів тому +2

    22:55 Okay, but what does Permissibility do on swords? Can we get increases charge rate or free ammo for a moment, similar to Discord?

  • @icarusblues7699
    @icarusblues7699 20 днів тому +4

    I will miss constantly giving Cerberus the H&K slap.

  • @Sauced_Egg
    @Sauced_Egg 20 днів тому +10

    Im excited as deliverance might be the better option now for chill clip

    • @subzero308
      @subzero308 20 днів тому +1

      Which would be stupid since its locked behind a raid.

    • @raekwonchambers2297
      @raekwonchambers2297 20 днів тому +20

      @@subzero308how is that stupid? Riptide will still be good lol

    • @snomic3449
      @snomic3449 20 днів тому +16

      @@subzero308raid weapons are suppose to be better bc they are harder to earn lol

    • @JGburneraccount
      @JGburneraccount 20 днів тому

      Can't get it because nobody knows how to do caretaker in pantheon week 3....Im running doing my job but people can't even ad clear it's ridiculous.

    • @Sauced_Egg
      @Sauced_Egg 20 днів тому

      @JGburneraccount feel that. If you got witch queen grab a team and farm for it every week unless you lucky and get more red borders early

  • @LordHokageSama
    @LordHokageSama 20 днів тому +2

    DARCI is on life support, it's the Gambit of exotics

  • @thecasualsperspective
    @thecasualsperspective 20 днів тому

    You know i never thought about it, but it would be cool if tessellation can absorb these prismatic grenades and turn it into a railgun (linear fusion but railgun sound and delayed explosion)

  • @JusAFarmer
    @JusAFarmer 20 днів тому +5

    Why we nerfing div its like used in 10% of content, also I like my spec mods IMO

  • @jmard24
    @jmard24 20 днів тому +3

    There was a time where dmt held a permanent primary position. Havent seen it since it was nerfed. And the legendary versions are trash at best.

  • @gengarclefairy3475
    @gengarclefairy3475 20 днів тому +2

    Why the hell did they nerf trinity ghoul? Its ONLY good in patrol or against thrall in higher content

  • @GammonMaster-PcP
    @GammonMaster-PcP 20 днів тому +2

    I think Bungie doesn’t understand that making big changes, nerfs to people’s favorite weapons right before a new expansion is not the smartest move to get people to buy
    First, there are already so many new changes to Final Shape to deal with, now a big change to weapons as well
    A lot of changes coming coming after a season that everyone was really enjoying
    Should have waited till after the launch, let us get used to Prismatic changes and new enemies etc, then make whatever changes to the weapons to fit, as it would make more sense to players after seeing the new meta
    Too many nerds at Bungie who just look at stats, but are clueless about true human nature. Less is more sometimes and knowing how to not overwhelm your customers
    This was a good season I really enjoyed after a very long time of boring ones, not looking foreword to the FS as much as I hoped I would…