One thing I realized after making this video is that during the scene where WX's robot arms turns human and Wagstaff gives a confused look, if you closely on what they're working on, you will realize they are constructing a portal.
So basically, WX lost the gear ability after Winona's repair attempt But on the plus side, since empathy module is now removed, there's room and slots for upgrade circuits.
It could make sense if he was there before but maxwell said that before he arrived at the constant it was just void and dust and that he made everything there is which could be a lie too but yeah
@@pintipandadandontstarvetog4016 i guess waxstaff is behind the creation of the constant ,and in time the things there got a mind on their own , and spread their corruption trough a portal that can make you leave the constant , the constant feels like it evolves on its own , especially in that short where the holo wax ,takes notes on the moon creature , but its too much for my brain to figure it out
Yeah... but kinda no, since Wilson's original hubby was chemistry and not mechanics and the only momment we canonically see him working mechanics is when he builds the 2 portals (both times with help of Maxwell). This lore (for my perspective that *NOBODY* needs to care about) it's looking more like FNAF, since every single piece of lore that we recieve from the game and devs, not only sometimes NOT answering question, but at the same time stockpilling more and more question (don't get me wrong, I like the game's lore but honestly it's a bit tiring this kind of narrative -_-)
Perhaps it's this "Woodrow" that WX-78 voice lines mentioned. Klei likes to sometimes implement those things into the game early just to shove them back in half a decade later.
Since time moves differently in the constant and wx was sent to the constant when wagstaff was younger wouldnt it mean he has been stuck in the constant for like atleast 30 years in earth time but maybe like 300 or 3000 years in the constant?
Not necessarily. The time the characters get sucked into the constant doesn't necessarily mean they end up in a corresponding date in the constant (at least as per devs in Winona's dev stream). For example, Winona disappears in the Voxola Factory fire that occurs in 1919 only to meet Wilson and Willow (in the gameplay trailer 2021), with Wilson having disappeared 3 years in the future in 1921.
@@potatofarmergyro1720 Yeah, we literally have a character that breaks time in this game lol. Time in the Constant relative to the real world is really, *really* strange
Well, we knew that Wolfgang also met young Maxwell but still end up meeting the others at the same day So, the time when they getting sucked to The Constant are totally random For any other sample, Wilson, who was freed by Charlie from Nightmare Throne, met Maxwell who was freed by Wilson before. Meaning that even if Maxwell "dies" earlier, he still can be sent out after Wilson re-survives in the Constant.
@@dunnkids7263 charlie went missing during maxwells final act, the "missing person" in question is the person that winona tried to save from the portal.
I see it as, WX is a human, perhaps Wagstaff's work partner, who was dying or leaving in some way and he and Wagstaff tried to upload his conciousness into WX using the empathy module but the human brain rejected the body, hence we see WX pull out the module at the end of the short.
*"they" and maybe! WX seemed to think that robotic enhancements and machines in general were much more efficient then gross, human flesh (at least that's what the mouse in the lab seemed to show). So maybe they just transferred their consciousness as a whole to the robot. It also seems like WX thought human emotions, like empathy, were inefficient even before they became a robot. I think that WX just didn't want to feel empathy because empathy made them feel some sort of sorrow or pain and didn't allow them to function "properly".
@@victoriaasenjo524 because we can literally see that its a man, and unless klei specifically confirms that wx was a they even before being turned into a robot, then it was a he
I like to think that WX and the person who was uploaded into the empathy module are separate people. WX eventually became the dominant personality and tried their best to remove the human inside of them (breaking the empathy module and eventually ripping it out in the animation).
@@pumpkin_pants3828 probably a memory wipe, that’s my best guess. there’s gotta be a reason WX gets surprised when they see the human version of themself flash up while working
I think this side of story will be unexplained to day of the end... Or we can speculate. Teory what I created about this is goes like that: Wagstaf and his [assistent] was working on robots what will help explore DST world with no problems, but there's part where I can't say why this [assistant] transform mind to robot. So as we go, the [assistant] slowly creates more of them. As we see Wagstaf after knowing this is not very happy, after some unknown time Wagstaf throw away [assistant] from now know as WX-78. From now there's part of teory kicks in. If we looked on animation of rework of Weber (I not sure if I write good) there's mistery man looking similar to Wagstaf giving (Weber) dad spider from DST world. I think the Wagstaf was created two way portal to enter and escape if this needs. He can enter and watch what player/ers will do and use them if he needs (loonar Island boss and his powers controling day and night). But there's interesting part comes, if Charlie knows what he is doing? Like he enters and exists like whatever he wants. Maybe they know each other and they usually fight or they take a deal (this is blank space of his story and Teory). But there's one question about that. How Wagstaf know about DST world? How long he was working on it?
I too agree with this. Wagstaff knows way too much about the constant but yet we don't know how he knew about it. He even knew about the Nightmare Throne D: As for how he's bringing stuff back and forth, maybe there's something to do with the fact that he's somehow projecting himself into the constant? Who knows.
So damn excited, I'm a Wortox main now, but way back when, I loved WX. He was the first character I really clicked with, and I've been so excited for his rework
Is it possible WX could be webbers dad? Him and wagstaff know each other and webbers father is shown to be some sort of biologist/scientist and the beard(barely) resembles that of webbers dad
@@LakhnishMonster I was thinking the same thing supersoaker, so I looked at webber's dad again, and he looks nothing like the glimpses we get of wx's human form
this actually cant be the case cuz in the webber short wagstaff is old and in this short he's younger, so by the time that the webber short happened, WX was already in the constant
I personally thinks that the human WX(the one who got his mind inserted into WX robot body) is actually being tricked into becoming the robot, based on some quote of WX when it inspect Wagstaff hologram or something similar. If that's the case it would make sense why in the WX animated short he is so desperate on forgetting Wagstaff, because of him being tricked by Wagstaff
Although I like this theory, I don't think WX was tricked into becoming a robot, as their description in DST states that they wanted to continue and perfect the experiment. However, I think your on the right track. Wagstaff could have tricked WX in someway to throw them into the portal, which would explain why WX hates Wagstaff and why they moan specifically after they remember them going through the portal.
I had to immediately think of Webbers Father in the mirror reflection scene maybe Webbers Father was the Partner of Wagstaff or his Brother that would explain why Webbers father would get a Spider from Wagstaff Sorry for the bad English
Reminder that wagstaff himself never banished WX to the constant, because of his examination quote for wx78 on the throne ("Is that..? But it couldnt be!") showing that wx78 somehow got there himself
but wagstaff literally watches WX fall into the constant at the end of the flashback. it's a lot more likely that he's just surprised that WX is alive and that he somehow made it to the nightmare throne
Idk it seemed kinda like he betrayed wagstaff to me cuz he was denying the empathy module aka human emotions to "perfect" himself and fed up with all this wagstaff destroyed whatever wx was doing and sent him to the constant but i could be wrong
The original scientist clearly views machinery superior to organic mechanics noted by "organic components to blame" part. Wagstaff likely helped in building the first WX model, and the built the empathy module to prevent the "erratic behavior" side effect.
So who is the original creator of WX is it Wilson or the other one because in don't starve one so it's just easier because don't start together was the second don't starve to be released so if I put that then you know but you can already tell Wilson I do believe created WX and in the little description it says for WX that he created by Wilson I think
It's not Wilson. As per WX's Compendium, WX was created by Wagstaff and an unnamed person (who got uploaded into the WX body). "WX-78 was the result of an unorthodox experiment helmed by {[LoadEmpathyModLibraryExW()......ERROR_DATA_PATH_NOT_FOUND]} and Robert Wagstaff." Wagstaff even has quotes talking about his automaton, like when examining the Floaty Boaty Knights in SW.
I think when Wagstaff puts on that helmet and the perspective changes to wx that is Wagstaff transferring his consciousness into wx. However wx or robot wagstaff is experiencing some kind of psychosis because of something to do with being in a robot body. If you think about it, transferring conciouysness into a robot would mopst likely cause many problems as you do not produce the many chemicals that your brain uses to function properly.
The human shape we see in the mirror reminds me of webbers dad. Maybe he realized what he had done and wanted to go to the constant to get him back. Also we have confirmation that wx is a guy. Well, WAS a guy.
@@potatojohnny3898 yeah ive read some comments and watched some videos and yeah i guess it doesnt make sense for them to be webbers father. Guess klei just likes drawing people with beards and glasses.
@@LakhnishMonster they were analyzing a spider from the constant, I think it's a stretch to assume that's all he focuses on? Why do you say he only focuses on insects?
@@Jinjetica When looking at the background of the office of Webber's dad, it's heaily implied that studying insects is his profession, just from the sheer amount of terrariums and carcasses of insects. ua-cam.com/video/h7XSEqWGxGI/v-deo.html ua-cam.com/video/h7XSEqWGxGI/v-deo.html
Being what he is, towards the end after seeing the gears, WX main couldn't stop himself from crushing the empathy module and trying to eat the gears within even though they could have been used to make kit for the team.
I used the music that Klei used at the end of the WX-78 Animated trailer (the section where they have subscribe and stuff). Hence no name to the music.
I was also kind of thinking it could be the wife/ex-wife, just when I first saw the still of the mirror even without realizing the ModLibraryExW stuff haha.
![Don't Starve: Character Stereotypes [ALL DS GAMES]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/hl7XoeFnHo4/mqdefault.jpg)
One thing I realized after making this video is that during the scene where WX's robot arms turns human and Wagstaff gives a confused look, if you closely on what they're working on, you will realize they are constructing a portal.
Bro that realization
@@Osjfiuehs9 yeah
So basically, WX lost the gear ability after Winona's repair attempt
But on the plus side, since empathy module is now removed, there's room and slots for upgrade circuits.
Makes much sense
Logical.
Yep and this lore and gameplay explanation! I love klei for that
It's kind of sad. They're trying to fill the hole where their heart once was.
I jusr realised something after this. WX was the first to go to Thw Constant who didn't get tricked by Maxwell , even before Winona.
He might entered before Maxwell, but who knows
It could make sense if he was there before but maxwell said that before he arrived at the constant it was just void and dust and that he made everything there is which could be a lie too but yeah
@@potatojohnny3898 I meant Maxwell was there but didn't tricked Wx
@@pintipandadandontstarvetog4016 i guess waxstaff is behind the creation of the constant ,and in time the things there got a mind on their own , and spread their corruption trough a portal that can make you leave the constant , the constant feels like it evolves on its own , especially in that short where the holo wax ,takes notes on the moon creature , but its too much for my brain to figure it out
@@LittleDogHD Wagstaff can't be behind the constant , that's too much XD
I think the short also disproves the theory that Wagstaff is Wilson from the future.
Yeah... but kinda no, since Wilson's original hubby was chemistry and not mechanics and the only momment we canonically see him working mechanics is when he builds the 2 portals (both times with help of Maxwell). This lore (for my perspective that *NOBODY* needs to care about) it's looking more like FNAF, since every single piece of lore that we recieve from the game and devs, not only sometimes NOT answering question, but at the same time stockpilling more and more question (don't get me wrong, I like the game's lore but honestly it's a bit tiring this kind of narrative -_-)
@@franco-golpeador2435 Infezlizmente é assim que a Klei trabalha
Perhaps it's this "Woodrow" that WX-78 voice lines mentioned. Klei likes to sometimes implement those things into the game early just to shove them back in half a decade later.
who is woodrow? I looked at his quotes and nothing came up when i searched woodrow, maybe the wiki hasn't updated yet?
@@benbenneb Woodrow is the filename that wx would have, particularly for their sound files.
@@LakhnishMonster okay thank you
@@benbenneb *their
Since time moves differently in the constant and wx was sent to the constant when wagstaff was younger wouldnt it mean he has been stuck in the constant for like atleast 30 years in earth time but maybe like 300 or 3000 years in the constant?
Not necessarily. The time the characters get sucked into the constant doesn't necessarily mean they end up in a corresponding date in the constant (at least as per devs in Winona's dev stream).
For example, Winona disappears in the Voxola Factory fire that occurs in 1919 only to meet Wilson and Willow (in the gameplay trailer 2021), with Wilson having disappeared 3 years in the future in 1921.
@@LakhnishMonster time will always be confusing💀
@@potatofarmergyro1720 Yeah, we literally have a character that breaks time in this game lol. Time in the Constant relative to the real world is really, *really* strange
Well, we knew that Wolfgang also met young Maxwell but still end up meeting the others at the same day
So, the time when they getting sucked to The Constant are totally random
For any other sample, Wilson, who was freed by Charlie from Nightmare Throne, met Maxwell who was freed by Wilson before. Meaning that even if Maxwell "dies" earlier, he still can be sent out after Wilson re-survives in the Constant.
It feels like centuries
one thing i noticed is that it probably wasnt wagstaff thats the missing person, but the wx possibly seeing by the shape of the portal and such
wasnt the missing person charlie?
@@dunnkids7263 charlie went missing during maxwells final act, the "missing person" in question is the person that winona tried to save from the portal.
@@rodolfobeguiristain oh, no the devs confirmed in a livestream that winona was trying to save wagstaff
Very nicely put together.
Still gonna miss the 400 health unstoppable monster that used to exist, but new WX is nice.
400*
@@davimendespimentel6849 whoops... fixed!
You can have way more health now
I see it as, WX is a human, perhaps Wagstaff's work partner, who was dying or leaving in some way and he and Wagstaff tried to upload his conciousness into WX using the empathy module but the human brain rejected the body, hence we see WX pull out the module at the end of the short.
*they
*"they" and maybe! WX seemed to think that robotic enhancements and machines in general were much more efficient then gross, human flesh (at least that's what the mouse in the lab seemed to show). So maybe they just transferred their consciousness as a whole to the robot.
It also seems like WX thought human emotions, like empathy, were inefficient even before they became a robot. I think that WX just didn't want to feel empathy because empathy made them feel some sort of sorrow or pain and didn't allow them to function "properly".
guys he wasn't "they" before becoming wx
@@nuclearstuff9442 Why not?
@@victoriaasenjo524 because we can literally see that its a man, and unless klei specifically confirms that wx was a they even before being turned into a robot, then it was a he
I like to think that WX and the person who was uploaded into the empathy module are separate people. WX eventually became the dominant personality and tried their best to remove the human inside of them (breaking the empathy module and eventually ripping it out in the animation).
*them
@@victoriaasenjo524 its a robot... a fictional robot at that... they can't get offended.
im interested by this interpretation. where would the WX personality have come from?
@@pumpkin_pants3828 probably a memory wipe, that’s my best guess. there’s gotta be a reason WX gets surprised when they see the human version of themself flash up while working
@@izlepox5234 Yeah, I thought the same
I think this side of story will be unexplained to day of the end... Or we can speculate.
Teory what I created about this is goes like that:
Wagstaf and his [assistent] was working on robots what will help explore DST world with no problems, but there's part where I can't say why this [assistant] transform mind to robot. So as we go, the [assistant] slowly creates more of them. As we see Wagstaf after knowing this is not very happy, after some unknown time Wagstaf throw away [assistant] from now know as WX-78.
From now there's part of teory kicks in. If we looked on animation of rework of Weber (I not sure if I write good) there's mistery man looking similar to Wagstaf giving (Weber) dad spider from DST world. I think the Wagstaf was created two way portal to enter and escape if this needs. He can enter and watch what player/ers will do and use them if he needs (loonar Island boss and his powers controling day and night). But there's interesting part comes, if Charlie knows what he is doing? Like he enters and exists like whatever he wants. Maybe they know each other and they usually fight or they take a deal (this is blank space of his story and Teory).
But there's one question about that.
How Wagstaf know about DST world?
How long he was working on it?
I too agree with this. Wagstaff knows way too much about the constant but yet we don't know how he knew about it. He even knew about the Nightmare Throne D:
As for how he's bringing stuff back and forth, maybe there's something to do with the fact that he's somehow projecting himself into the constant? Who knows.
So damn excited, I'm a Wortox main now, but way back when, I loved WX. He was the first character I really clicked with, and I've been so excited for his rework
*they were
@@victoriaasenjo524 Yes, he's my favorite character
@@maniandbeano based
Is it possible WX could be webbers dad? Him and wagstaff know each other and webbers father is shown to be some sort of biologist/scientist and the beard(barely) resembles that of webbers dad
I personally don't think it's Webber's dad. Webber's dad specialized in insects (as per their office), not robots and machines.
@@LakhnishMonster I was thinking the same thing supersoaker, so I looked at webber's dad again, and he looks nothing like the glimpses we get of wx's human form
*them, also what beard? It's a silhouette with long hair.
this actually cant be the case cuz in the webber short wagstaff is old and in this short he's younger, so by the time that the webber short happened, WX was already in the constant
@@pumpkin_pants3828 WX turned out to be older than I expected.
I personally thinks that the human WX(the one who got his mind inserted into WX robot body) is actually being tricked into becoming the robot, based on some quote of WX when it inspect Wagstaff hologram or something similar.
If that's the case it would make sense why in the WX animated short he is so desperate on forgetting Wagstaff, because of him being tricked by Wagstaff
0:41 Read the sentence that begins with “Adamant that…”
Although I like this theory, I don't think WX was tricked into becoming a robot, as their description in DST states that they wanted to continue and perfect the experiment. However, I think your on the right track. Wagstaff could have tricked WX in someway to throw them into the portal, which would explain why WX hates Wagstaff and why they moan specifically after they remember them going through the portal.
@@moonlightgarden1921 Joke theory: WX became a robot to escape their crippling dysphoria
when he inspects the wagstaff hologram he simply says "YOU." it's all the more haunting now that we know how much he despises wagstaff
*they
My man you are fast
Also, am just gonna say that this maybe is the best short ever
I think that it could be possible that wx in wx-78 sands for initials
Like what if the original persons name was Xavier Wagstaff and how sometimes initials are sometimes put backward for work reasons
Why does this description sounds evil that Wagstaff wanting to stop it makes him a good guy? [A SHORT-SIGHTED FOOL, AFRAID OF PROGRESS]
Because WX is evil. It's one of their defining traits.
the text in the brackets is supposed to be WX, still bitter at his former friend for ruining everything and sending him to the constant
*their
I had to immediately think of Webbers Father in the mirror reflection scene maybe Webbers Father was the Partner of Wagstaff or his Brother that would explain why Webbers father would get a Spider from Wagstaff
Sorry for the bad English
like 1 hour goes by and **I Have Been Summoned**
Reminder that wagstaff himself never banished WX to the constant, because of his examination quote for wx78 on the throne ("Is that..? But it couldnt be!") showing that wx78 somehow got there himself
or maybe he’s just surprised by wx-78 being alive. yours is more possible tbh
*themselves
but wagstaff literally watches WX fall into the constant at the end of the flashback. it's a lot more likely that he's just surprised that WX is alive and that he somehow made it to the nightmare throne
@@victoriaasenjo524 I default to "he" everytime i talk to someone. Plus, robot is male gender in my language.
@@someoneyoudontknow8567 Yes, but in English, they/them is gender neutral, not he/him.
interesting
indeed
I can't believe this game is still going
human wx was the winona factory owner, and he was a partner of wagstaff, which got betrayed in a way to become the human experiment
Idk it seemed kinda like he betrayed wagstaff to me cuz he was denying the empathy module aka human emotions to "perfect" himself and fed up with all this wagstaff destroyed whatever wx was doing and sent him to the constant but i could be wrong
The original scientist clearly views machinery superior to organic mechanics noted by "organic components to blame" part. Wagstaff likely helped in building the first WX model, and the built the empathy module to prevent the "erratic behavior" side effect.
*they were
@@potatojohnny3898 *they
@@victoriaasenjo524 ENOUGH OF THIS COMMENT. YOU'RE BORED.
Gonna miss the fact that wx could upgrade himself with gears. That was one of the best features about him in my opinion.
1 big hp module, 1 big hunger module and 1 big sanity module, problem solved
So since Wagstaff is a hologram, was WX their first experiment with being able to go back and forth between the constant?
They finished the portal just when they were hating each other. So maybe Waggstaff threw WX away to get rid of him.
To stop the robot invasion of course.
@@forgedabauditt9955 yeah i honestly feel that wx was definitely up to something with what he was doing and it didnt look good
Probably. Now Wagstaff is just a hologram instead.
@@forgedabauditt9955 the extra bodies were WX's attempt at perfecting itself, as per compendium.
i appreciate the credit for the portal detail, great recap
P.S. this is my previous username
3:42 if we never saw denise richards again
I literally got the short as an ad before the video started.
Bruh.
Yeee haw, thank you cow boy for proving me right, that there going to be a video about WX-78 short in just a few week.
looooooooooorrrrrreeeeeeeeeeeee
you should know with a hollow knight pfp
DONT. TALK. ABOUT. ME.
the image in the mirror of WX's former self looks a lot like webbers dad IMO.
ah yes WX-78 spamton
pre-robot transformation wx kinda looks like otacon from metal gear, anyone also see thaT?
So who is the original creator of WX is it Wilson or the other one because in don't starve one so it's just easier because don't start together was the second don't starve to be released so if I put that then you know but you can already tell Wilson I do believe created WX and in the little description it says for WX that he created by Wilson I think
It's not Wilson.
As per WX's Compendium, WX was created by Wagstaff and an unnamed person (who got uploaded into the WX body).
"WX-78 was the result of an unorthodox experiment helmed by {[LoadEmpathyModLibraryExW()......ERROR_DATA_PATH_NOT_FOUND]} and Robert Wagstaff."
Wagstaff even has quotes talking about his automaton, like when examining the Floaty Boaty Knights in SW.
I have a theory that wx78 is Webber's father as they seam to both know wag
That would break the timeline
I think when Wagstaff puts on that helmet and the perspective changes to wx that is Wagstaff transferring his consciousness into wx. However wx or robot wagstaff is experiencing some kind of psychosis because of something to do with being in a robot body. If you think about it, transferring conciouysness into a robot would mopst likely cause many problems as you do not produce the many chemicals that your brain uses to function properly.
wagstaff isnt the person whos transerfered into wx, its some unknown partner of his
do you think the person seen in that mirror could be the memory of the younger Wagstaff?
The human shape we see in the mirror reminds me of webbers dad.
Maybe he realized what he had done and wanted to go to the constant to get him back.
Also we have confirmation that wx is a guy. Well, WAS a guy.
how do you know wx was a guy we literally don't even know what their name was lol
@@rodolfobeguiristain isnt that a beard? It looks like a beard to me but i guess it could be hair too...
@@rezahageby4411 isnt wagstaff younger in this short tho? Maybe if it was webbers grandfather then it might be plausible
@@potatojohnny3898 yeah ive read some comments and watched some videos and yeah i guess it doesnt make sense for them to be webbers father. Guess klei just likes drawing people with beards and glasses.
he looks like webbers dad
*they
could it be webber's dad? they show wagstaff interacting with his family for science, which webber's dad is involved in
Webber's dad has a focus on insects, not robotics (and whatever field uploading one's mind would be).
@@LakhnishMonster they were analyzing a spider from the constant, I think it's a stretch to assume that's all he focuses on? Why do you say he only focuses on insects?
@@Jinjetica When looking at the background of the office of Webber's dad, it's heaily implied that studying insects is his profession, just from the sheer amount of terrariums and carcasses of insects. ua-cam.com/video/h7XSEqWGxGI/v-deo.html
ua-cam.com/video/h7XSEqWGxGI/v-deo.html
Does wx see himself as wagstaff
*themselves
למה גילית יאותך רק עכשיו
Being what he is, towards the end after seeing the gears, WX main couldn't stop himself from crushing the empathy module and trying to eat the gears within even though they could have been used to make kit for the team.
It looks like webbers father
It wouldnt make sense since wagstaff is younger here and in the webber short he has grey hair
@@potatojohnny3898 yeah thets right
*They look
Yeah it's obvious but WX78 was the one who got sucked in the portal in the Winona short or the human version of him
Wagstaff was the one sucked in Winona's short. It is confirmed by the devs in their dev stream during Winona's rework.
@@LakhnishMonster didn't know that but good to know
*them
whats the song in the intro?
I used the music that Klei used at the end of the WX-78 Animated trailer (the section where they have subscribe and stuff). Hence no name to the music.
72nd
20th
it's Wagstaffs ex wife (loadEmpathyModLibraryExW), she must have been his science partner
I was also kind of thinking it could be the wife/ex-wife, just when I first saw the still of the mirror even without realizing the ModLibraryExW stuff haha.
It’s a guy the silhouette of human wx has a beard
@@finkle931 it looks like hair, imo.
*they
@@victoriaasenjo524 pretty sure that this short proves he’s a guy