My Approach to Guitar Layers
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- Опубліковано 1 чер 2024
- Joey walks you through his approach to layering guitars for a clean yet impactful result. What tricks do you use to glue your guitar layers together? Let us know in the comments!
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0:00 Introduction
0:18 Preparation
1:51 Rhythm
5:28 Leads
7:24 Cleans
8:36 Thoughts
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Tags:guitar layering,audio production,mixing tutorials
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My GUY, growing up listening to your god-tier post-hardcore mixes I never thought I'd get this insight straight from the source. At this point, I will admit that I have picked up a lot of these tips either through hours of tutorial digging or hours of experimentation, but the sauce is all here, and clear, and from the man himself. Thanks Joey.
melodic death core
melodic death core
Pretty much exactly what I thought when I found out he had tutorials on UA-cam!
This is the information I needed in my life.
Always wanted to figure out how to layer rhythm guitars properly!
ikr, it's very hard to find these stuff for metal music around internet. That mono compatibility trick is what I needed
very hard to find anything metal and modern 😂💀
I would love to watch a live stream of Joey editing/mixing a song
He did on nail the mix a bunch. He even did a more recent one with attack attack’s new song
Nail the mix or Creative Live
I've seen it before
Count me in!
second that 🙌🏻
This was so helpful. I was wondering about quadruple layering in choruses too, and now I’m excited to do it and alter the tone a bit. Thanks!
Glad it was helpful!
Reaper "licensed for personal/small business use", eh ? 😅
Good catch lol
shhhhhh ;)
Thank you, Joey! Very informative video!👏
Always usefull tips, thanks JST!
I learn more in the 9 minutes your video last, than in years trying wrong ideas, SUPER GREAT VIDEO.
This video is a wealth of knowledge! Probably one of the best channels out here!
Thanks for the tips Joey!
Fantastic Video! Thank you!
That's a treasure chest of information, thank you for sharing!
So many great tips in just one video! Amazing as always!
Great hints. Thanks
Sounds amazing Joey thanks
Some of my favorite guitar layering is what Ken Andrew’s did on Failure’s Fantastic Planet… so good.
Helpful Lesson! Thanks!!!
Awesome tips. Thanks man.
This was very helpful. Noticed my mistakes right away. Thank you!!!
On a quad track recording I particularly like the blend between 2 tracks recorded on a bridge humbucker and 2 recorded on neck+bridge splited coils. Great blend with the seymor ducan sentient/nazgul.
You‘re awesome! Thank you!
This is pure gold man
The song you featured in this video is BANGER! Very Scandinavian melodic style, love it.
Great Video!! Thank You!
Mann I just found this channel by chance... This is hands down my favourite mixing/producing channel! It's like watching a TV show and it is everything Nail the Mix should have been! Focused and to the point!!
Please make more of these. Like... so many. I'll give you a hug and a free song.
So good tutorial video.
Your channel is helping me with my guitar production so much, thank you.
That's awesome! Keep rockin!
Great channel, my new favorite place to check out with a cup of joe
Excellent - thank you
I love the tone you achieve with the guitar, it reminds me a lot of Cathedral! Cheers!
Nice video! Very helpful 👌👌
Great info here, for sure
This is AMAZING!
These were some cool tips!!
I never thought of processing my FX post-record on the DI... Thank you!
REALLY COOL VIDEO!
Man, Sturgis is the frikkin god of metal mixing and tone. Toneforge Jeff Loomis changed my life. And this video was a game changer for my guitar sound, not just the double/quad tracking but also the use of atmospheric cleans and the use of effects to create texture. We bow in awe.
Great vid one of the best I’ve seen regarding multiple guitar tracking!
As a studio and touring guitarist first from the late 70s hard rock 80s glam,metal and virtuoso and still playing I have always struggled with getting that big sound with separation definition and clarity
God knows I have everything from radial for RE-amping, axe Fx and every plug-in emulator available,
Ox box, Torpedo, tons of vintage heads and cabs some great mics
But no goddamn patience!
I’m also very interested in this Mutt Lange technique
Thanks
Using that high end Gio. Nice👌
Thanks dude.
Wow! Thank you for this GREAT video! This opened my ears to create better-sounding guitars in my songs. Mucho Thanks!!
The thickening 🤘🏽
Joey the Legend!
Nice video! Trying to break into metal production and this helps alot. There are plenty of techniques I've used dozens and dozens of times before but its nice to see them being repeated here. Thanks!
Glad it was helpful!
The lead guitar section was SUPER useful - thanks Joey! I'd been struggling with lead guitars so this helps give me a little bit of a foundation to come up with something unique. Thanks again!
What would I do without these videos...
But Joey, could you maybe do a video about the important balance between the Bass and guitars (especially in the more heavy-ish genres)?
"The key to a great guitar tone, is the bass" is a quote I think I once heard in one of the many URM Academy videos on YT
Thank you for the info! When quad tracking, do you hard pan guitars 3 and 4? Or do you bring them inward more? Maybe even expanded further out? Or do they sit on top of the already hard panned guitars 1 and 2? Thank you!
Hey man,really loved your way.
Could you please explain that rhythm section chop in a brief.
Thanks.
sweet thank ya
a goldmine!
Dat kul man 👌🏻
I totally forgot that the amount of layers affect the size of the overall mix. I feel dumb after that one but this will help me so much!
the song itself is amazing
I’d be interested to see how you would mix a indie rock band.
I love u joey !
This man speaks fcking truth to power! 🤘
I love guitar left high end thinner, right guitar high end like thinner, duplicate left and right then make the guitars more thick mid range and blend them in all together. 100/100 high end 76/76 thick end. 🤘
Awesome video! Btw, how do you do that mouse selection around 1:45?
I always quad track my rythem guitar tracks for the chorus and then double track in the verse
The single note chord building, insaneeee
Read: lazy guitar technique
Joey giving away all the secrets.
Gold
When do you decide to track mono and track sterio ? Does it depend on the project / song your working on or is there another aspect to it ?
Man, I really gotta stop watching your videos while I’m on a timeline…now I gotta go quad-track a chorus 😢
Awesome! Quick question! If you have 2 guitarist doing different riffs, do you double them, hard pan? Then merge and Pan those 2 performances L R?
What would you suggest for a verse where it’s basically just the rhythm part and bass with no lead guitar? Think like the first verse in Run Away by For All Those Sleeping
The man the legend the vst plug-in...
are all of the pannings hard left and right ? for leads also?? thanks
8:57 - That man right there is a God among men
The master of production ! Thanks for all.
The double track performance dropping back a few ms with different mics were to I buy this from?
Wait, was that “All My Life” by Attack Attack! I heard?? 👀
Do you double track at once or in separate takes??
Or phase cancel issue?
Do you pan the quad track guitars hard L and R or are you off setting a pair to like 75% or something?
great video especially about the tape/foam - any products on the market for this?
Gruv gear sells stuff for $20 or more, but I've found that a velcro cable tie with the loop side on the strings does the same job, and you can get a huge roll of them for the same price. But the specialized products are more aesthetically pleasing.
Don't forget the tremolo springs as well.
Please make Toneforge available on the M1 chips! 😫
Dope
How would you go about panning the guitars where there is 2 distinct guitar parts? Such as harmony guitar riffs etc? I get the double track each guitar and pan L+R but how would this work for harmonies that are panned L+R without having both parts of the harmony in both ears? Hopefully I've explained this well enough 😅
Anyone know what Reaper theme this is ?
How did you get reaper to look like that? I have the same theme I think but your colours are more vibrant
This is gold! 🤘😁 and... that's reaper? What skin? 😯
I heard that Attack Attack riff ;)))
I'd like a tutorial on how you setup reaper to be so pretty!
What theme are you using in Reaper?
What is the name of the mic SIM unit did you say tunforge
How do you make this gradient color tracks???
How do you remove the di sound and leave the guitar amp fx sound only please?
Thank u Joey for this! I'm just starting out to this whole recording thing and I would like to ask if the DAW being used here is Reaper?
It is, reaper is dope
@@itsokaytobenormal3695 thank u!
What reaper pitch algorithm are you using for stretching the DIs?
Reapitch
I would pay money for a start to finish recording and mixing/editing tutorial from joey. Is that already a thing anywhere..?
Yes look up Studio Pass on Creative Live
Is there a link to the song @ 8:29?
What DAW are you using?
Anybody know the song around 7:58? Melodic stuff!
Hey Joey! How you been?
Man i cant find it anywhere and i dont know.where i heard it but if you record at center and then pan after doesnt that cause a loss in definition. Shouldnt you record at 100 percent left and after that record again at 100.percent right
How come when I record guitars they sound terrible and quiet hard panned left and right, but sound good when panned like 75% or less?
For me the biggest challenge when it comes to double tracked guitars is mono compatibility. For some reason my guitars seem to disappear in mono, even when they sound very different. I know I'm not alone with this, many people seem to have the same issue on forums. When I switch to mono, suddenly the snare and the vocals jump out waaay too much. Any advice?
My understanding is it's kind of the nature of the beast. Panloss settings can affect this from what I've heard. But a surprising amount of professional tracks disappear in mono. Listen to your favorite metal tracks and see how they do in mono. It's actually quite surprising.
Another thing you can do is switch out what cabinet you're using for each track, which is really only possible if you're doing it with amp sims like Joey. Another thing to keep in mind: the vast majority of people are going to be listening to the song stereo.
Pan law was what I meant
The quad tracking sounded so good, every time I try it, it seems to thin out the sound significantly. I noticed yours were called OCTAVE L/R are they just pushed up 12 semitones or are they actually played an octave above?
you can use the exact same DI and lower it by 1 octave then apply the same fx chain with a bit of variation
Anyone knows how to get the floating mixer like in 1:55?
right click on the mixer dock thumbnail... uncheck "dock mixer in docker" 😉