The scariest thing is that the Chinese were not just ordinary soldiers with large numbers, but veterans of the Chinese Civil War and the Sino-Japanese War.
They were exclusively volunteers. Most were ideologically motivated young men (and some women). There were of course many who fought in the civil war, but generally those who have already experienced war did not volunteer to fight again.
@@ralphjimenez3191 why is everyone so focused on that moment Filipinos beated 40k north korean and Chinese soldiers, the Filipinos got pushed back after that battle though so that didn't really change anything
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0:01 damn that shot is fucking epic, just thousands upon thousands of soldiers charging towards the enemy, infact theres so many soldiers you can see them on the smaller hills in the background.
c'est très exagéré par hollywood ... en fait, la plupart du temps, l'armée rouge se battait en infériorité numérique. cela impliquait une concentration momentanée de troupe sur une petite partie du dispositif adverse qui était brièvement submergé. le tout allié à une grande science du camouflage, du renseignement, et à des déplacement très rapide permis par l'armement très sommaire dont disposaient les soldats communistes . " quand vous cherchez les communistes pour les détruire, vous ne le voyez jamais ... mais lorsque vous les voyez, vous ne pouvez plus rien faire, vous êtes encerclé de toutes parts " sydney rittenberg
@@tomitiustritus6672 on a de bonnes vidéos de la guerre de corée : lors des charges, on peut estimer qu'il y a autour de 100 à 200 hommes par hectare ... et encore !
I never understood how that guy got he's leg blown off and survived while the other guy got shot once in Pyeongyang by that one general with that pistol
Okay, human wave tactics are stupid, but you can't deny the fact that you'd piss yourself if you saw a horde of even a quarter of a million charging at you while screaming bloody mary.
@@枣-h8x Imagine it this way an Empire say its named "The Red State", sends over 4.4M men with underprepared weapons, low ammo, and barely equipped to fight maybe a State called "Orange Republic", who has around 1.6M equipped men, well fed, and air superiority. Say the Red State wins but ends up with: - The Red State ends up with: 3.2M Deaths (300K or more Injured) - Orange Republic: 75K deaths (130K or more injured) Red State is the winner, but it lost basically almost all of it's men. And if we want to make the scenario worse, we can say that was only a battle, and that Orange Republic is now sending in a 1M men equipped offensive! While the Red State cannot recover from that battle!
@@枣-h8xit did worked but at price of several loss lives. Overall we humans only have only one time to live, and ending it too early is unfortunate. It sucks of seeing family members sorrow over your death without having a chance to say goodbye to them
In fact, if we really had a human sea tactic, we would have failed long ago. Americans and South Koreans don’t understand the three-three system, and they can’t understand why the Chinese army is so powerful at picking up missing weapons, so we can only comfort ourselves by saying that it was a human sea tactic.
Great movie scene but one glaring historical inaccuracy: The People' Volunteer Army never hoisted the national flag of PRC. Legally speaking PVA was a "volunteer" force. PRC never declared war against any members of the UN force, nor did itself receive any declaration of war. The legal façade was meticulously maintained. There was never the showing of PRC national flag or PLA flag on any occasion throughout the Korean War. Instead PVA used its own battle flag, which was sometimes used in conjunction with the North Korean flag.
What makes it more complicated though is that if I remember correctly the Chinese PLAF flew their MiGs openly in their official schemes and markings, unlike the Soviet mercenaries who often flew in North Korean-marked jets. If so, then it was an official Chinese combat operation (against American B-29s, fighter jets and other UN coalition aircraft). The US was not interested in another World War, so they just kept the conflict limited to the Korean peninsula (rather than widely striking Chinese targets in retaliation).
Maybe the producers did it because they wanted to show that the Chinese arrived. It would be difficult, maybe not because of it's scale, that the PVA hoisted the DPRK's flag.
@@jorgeropero359 the americans wrote in recordings that they knew the chinese already arrived because the soldiers they fought got considerably taller.
The US and UN soldiers were largely not veterans of WWII. Most had already retired or been sent home. The British soldiers in Korea were the most combat experienced. General MacArthur's brilliant landing at Inchon turned the tide, until the Chinese arrived. General MacArthur's ego and racism led him under underestimate the Chinese. UN forces were completely surprised and outnumbered. President Truman fired him. The US Marines showed bravery, fighting out of Chosin Resvoir after the Chinese had smartly surrounded them. The war was brutal, particularly because of the winter. Ironically, the Chinese would use many American weapons to kill Americans because they had received American aid during WWII to fight the Japanese. The Chinese had taken in and sheltered many American pilots that had been shot down over China by the Japanese. 5 years later, the Chinese would be fighting their former friends. Why? Because North Korea wanted to conquer South Korea.
Not quite. MacArthur did incorrectly believe the Chinese would not intervene, but Truman relieved him for trying to escalate the conflict and smash China for good rather than his failures. The Chinese used many American-made weapons, but these were not supplied to the Nationalists in WWII. They were supplied to the Soviets, who gave them to the Chinese Communists after conquering Manchuria from Japan.
@@michaelmccabe3079 In addition, it's important to note that MacArthur pushed Truman to invade China. Truman opted not to, as the objectives and endgame of invading China were unclear, ambiguous, and simply a task the American public would not or could not stomach. MacArthur severely underestimated China because history shows China has always used the Korean Peninsula as a buffer zone. Even in medieval times, Japan kept invading Korea, and every time, China rallied to fight Japan back. It wasn't because of political alliances, but it was China being wary at Japan being so close to their doorstep. It's why China got involved in the Korean War. The easy narrative to sell was the Soviets, Chinese, and North Koreans were all communist and had a common ideology, but China wanted to keep the US and the West away from its borders.
@@uncreative5766 MacArthur believed that as long as China was willing to intervene, it should be knocked out. Just like how defending Belgium from German aggression in both world wars wasn't limited to fighting just in Belgium and never striking at the source. Reclaiming China for the free world would also position 450 million people at the USSR's soft underbelly, and thus supply an existential threat (hence why the Soviets put so much effort into flipping it to the Comintern). The American public was willing to take on China in both Korea and Vietnam, but the Army in 1951 was a shadow of its WWII self; demobilization had gutted everything. So committing to a war in China would require too much resources that weren't immediately available, and leave western Europe wide open for a Soviet invasion.
Not exactly. Chinese Communist Party was never a friend of US until 1970s. You are talking about Kuomintang/Nationalist Party, the ruling party of Republic of China which was an ally of the west and fighting the japanese during WWII, until got kicked out of mainland to Taiwan by the communist.
@@nimacao9159 Yes, hence why I said MacArthur wanted to knock them out. Part of his plan was to rearm Chaing's Army in Taiwan and help them re-invade China to force Mao to fight an existential war on his home turf rather than Korea.
Its just the west spread wrong info to the mass. In fact its force concentration. Oh and to do this with an walking army, peng du hoai is godly general.
The Chinese army was a low tech army, they relied on human wave attacks to compensate for their lack of firepower and unimaginative tactics. The US Civil War (as well as WW1) demonstrated the futility of massed frontal assaults. While it is true that any attacking force should have numerical superiority, a strict reliance on overwhelming numbers ensures massive casualties as well as a disregard for such casualties.
Busy killing Pure blood America. Remember it never killed anyone beside pure blood American (Enclave). Damn Brotherhood Fascist...oh wait...Enclave also Fascist...hmmm!?
War is no glory is all hell as said. There is a mistake: When the shell explodes there is what is called killing ratio. Depending the mortar we talk about 20 mts dead area. Anybody near the blast will die if 10 mts farder stunned and deft... and so on. I dont study mortars physics but I know if the shell explodes 8 mts near you... in the open... you are dead. So the movie is innacurate. Mortar fire is horrible if the shell explodes near heavily populated areas because the blast wave and the shrapnel. But if we talk about howitzers... big guns... dawn.
Wrong. Arty kill radius are way exaggerated. Also most all the shrapnel goes up or stray into the ground. Do you even know how far a meter is? Huge 155mm shells may not touch you at 20 meters. One meter away from a mortar shell and you could be fine. Probably not, but you still could be. Explosives are finicky things. Mortar rounds are generally small, 60mm.
What even worse is being in a wooded area or cement area. All those wood and rock will cut and shoot into you. That why people hide in fox hole so the wood or rock will fly over you.
@@chamtax No, the USA interrupted Korean unification. The USA is trying to enslave Korea and use it as a puppet. If the USA would get out of Korea, Korea would be united by now.
Russian side threw two human waves in Ukraine, with immense artillery barrage, and they caused harm on Ukrainian military and resistance at the same time.
Unknown because human waves haven’t been used since about the 1960’s or so, pretty much all cases of human wave attacks after that are just instances of frontal assaults played up with propaganda
Not always the case. Why should any country join another that considers their people as mere objects or prons in the war as you see in 0:01 They have no respect for human life.
No, they did attack in human waves just ask veterans on both sides and they will say they did. But what made the Chinese effective was that they had enough troops to keep US/NATO forces busy at strong defensive positions, while moving mass units around to attack and threaten weak points and supply lines.
@@vilx1308 No... That is not even close to what I said. Okay, let me explain myself better. The Chinese advance depicted in this clip caught the US/NATO and South Korean forces by surprise. They were advancing and had not consolidated their forces giving the Chinese the opportunity to flank their defensive positions and attack weak points and supply lines. The Western Front in WWI was different from the Chinese advance here because the Germans had a defensive line stretching from the Baltic Sea to neutral Switzerland giving the British/Allies the inability to flank them when attacking. Dose that make sense? In fact when the US/NATO and South Korean forces do consolidate their forces in a defensive line from the Sea of Japan to the Yellow Sea the war grinds down into battles not unlike what you would see in WWI
Royalmerc and no it’s dose not, West Europe is a plain which as u know is better for troops advancing and mountains in Korea, and since the battlefield in Korea is even narrower which makes even harder to flank
Your Prez uses Central Asians and Mongols in his Pan-Slavic ambitions. USA is cleverly benefitting from the situation, they are doing a witty move after decades.
Horde bonus. Jokes aside, such warfare must've been a terrifying experience in those days. To witness a large mass of humans, under orders, and aimed at overtaking you and your position at any cost... Even though this is just a film and a scene. It still gives off a somewhat scale of what you would've seen, had you been on the top of some hill... supposedly tasked at defending.
And you know what even more scary? From the UN perspective, these 100,000 Chinese soldier are literally teleport out of nowhere. The Chinese used mountain along the Yalu river to hide their force from the UN Air Force Recon and alway march at night to avoid being seen. After 3 weeks of rigorous deception, they spring their ambush on top of the South Korean outpost by complete surprise.
@@scepticsquirrelThey did drop briefly during Mao's "Cultural Revolution" when the military purge occurs. In fact, it drop all the way to around 650,000 personnel during the worst months of the revolution. Forcing Mao to enforce drafting to replace them.
That shit doesn't make sense. This is japan vs china. Not Korea. South Korea only made the movie but the ones fighting were japanese and Chinese. Baka.
More Koerans fought on the "South Korean" than the Communist Korean side. Even most the parties in North Korea before they were liquidated were against the Communists. Kim faction and communist had under 250k Korean troops, the anti-Communist Korean army had over 1.3 million Koreans. Whereas the North Korean side 1.5 million Chinese , 200k Soviets
Which is a fault. Unlike the Soviet whose production facilities got destroy which cause weapon shortages during WW2, the Chinese factories were able to produce weapon and armed all soldiers properly. Not to mention that unlike a literal million men army Soviet have, the Chinese only deploy 500,000 men to Korea. A relatively smaller number of men to take care of.
The biggest issue is how the human wave offensive was not at all structured the way it was shown, this was only done for more cinematic shots. If CPR or DPRK did this, all the South Korean forces would have to do is radio for barrages and break the fragile lines, it wouldn’t really be hard to completely break their ranks and render their attack completely useless and cause such massive gaps and casualties that what’s left would be picked off and leave the defending forces with much less casualties. Thankfully the Chinese tactics were far more well thought-out than the movie makes it seem. Honestly the biggest issue PRC military had was their supply and Navy...their Navy essentially was dwarfed from the beginning compared to most their opposition but the Kuomintang pretty much decimated most their vessels due to their sheer size difference and their tactical advantage with fortifying Taiwan. Or at least, this is all from as much as I know which may be inaccurate, I find 20th century military tactic stuff very interesting. (Oh and funny that the one guy mentions the Russians when yet again, movies portray Zerg rushes all the time but as with this movie’s criticisms to their portrayal of Chinese tactics, the same issues are applicable to Soviet tactics in cinema and, consequently, pop culture.)
@야야투레 Bruh don’t you go talking about censorship and authoritarianism when South Koreans can’t bring up the involvement of the Japanese in the dictatorship propped up by the USA. Took until the 1980’s for SK to have elections that resembled western democracy, and still today many things are illegal which would be called “draconian” if they weren’t a NATO member.
@@CHRŌMVS a "human wave attack" is like the scene from Flowers of War, where the Chinese tried to get close to a tank using their bodies and whatever cloth they could armour themselves with. This is a regular attack, or basically a Banzai, or WW1 charge except Chinese style. Not human wave attack, I dont think. If it was a human wave attack, they would have the intent to basically kill themselves as a human meat shield, and no weapons in their hands other than their flesh to die
This sence is not true. In fact, the Chinese force crossed the Yalu River and reached the battlefile secretly. And they only initiated attacks during night time because the U.S military equipements are way advanced and firepower are too strong.
@@ordohereticus5530 Lol the same reasons why North Koreans troops look so similar to Chinese and Soviet soldiers. That's where their supplies came from 😂😂😂
First of all, since the moment of the birth of automatic weapons, purely crowded tactics have withdrawn from the stage of history. At the Battle of the Somme, the British played the tactics of the sea of people and lost 60,000 people in one day. If the volunteers also played the same way, even the entire Chinese army would charge at the 38th line. The Volunteer Army’s offensive tactics have been very mature after many years of war. During the offensive, the army was formed into a skirmish line. The distance between them should be ensured that a mortar shell could not hit two people. The attack was launched from the side as far as possible, and the front was more often a feint. Coupled with these excellent tactics, such as encirclement, interspersed, surprise attack, night battle, encirclement and aid, etc., it finally constitutes China's unique human sea charge.
This is just... not true. While human wave tactics are certainly over exaggerated in films for cinematic effect, many nations continued to use said tactics all throughout the 20th century, particularly nations that had enacted a overly vigorous conscription program without the industry to immediately support and equip their massive new influx of combatants. This is part of it - but another reason for the employment of massed waved warfare was also due to the inadequacy of the generals and their nature to eitherly very slowly adopt to the quickly changing aspects of modern warfare which was becoming ever more mobile and fast paced with each new advanced made in the military industrial complex or - in some cases such as WWI their hubris led them to outright refuse to change their tactics because they simply believed they had been educated to the best possible standard in whatever esteemed military academy they had graduated from and thus there was simply no way there were any tactical maneuvers that they did not know of that were superior to what they had been taught... and nowhere was this more evident than in Europe with many nations believing their military was far superior to their neighbors. I mean hell, even in Eastern Theater of WWI linear warfare tactics were still being employed to some degree. We have however, diary after diary - battle report after battle report that solidifies that nations were indeed employing mass wave tactics all the way into the late 20th century. My own grandfather fought with the US Marines in Korea and was there fighting the Chinese in Chosin Basin - and he firmly attests that the Chinese were indeed using mass wave tactics. There is no more damning evidence than an eye witness report (excluding recordings), and we have those in spades. As for the introduction of automatic weaponry, it has been clear since the mid 19th century that generals of all nations and caliber simply have a difficult time adapting to changing circumstances in warfare - it is historically evident that even up to our modern day, strategy consistently lags behind technology, and tactics have a hard time keeping pace with the constantly shifting and advancing military technology. Our ability as a species to make technological advances always outpaces our ability of adaptation to the new reality brought by said advancements. This truth transcends just warfare and is apparent in all aspects of life... it took decades for industrialized nations in the 1800's to fully adopt to railroad after the invention of the railway and steam powered train engines. A good example is the U.S. Civil War, despite the invention of much more deadly technology, such as rifled muskets with a much higher rate of accuracy and fire than smooth bore, howitzer cannon artillery pieces, and the dreaded galling gun the grandfather of the machinegun... the U.S. and Confederacy still used linear warfare for the majority of that war despite that the fact that the invention of rifling had made firearms incredibly more accurate, removing the entire need for firing in massed clusters - linear regiments - and only served to provide a massive firing target. It wasn't until the very last year of the war in 1865 that truly started to adapt to new realities of rifled firearms (muskets with rifling), in which the fighting in the Eastern theater devolved/evolved (depending on how you see it) into the grueling trench warfare style of fighting we'd eventually see some 50-60 odd years later in WWI. To further prove my point, Prussia whom at the time if the Civil War during the height of the Victorian Era commanded (arguably) the best and most disciplined land army in the world send several of their officers to the US to sort of "spectate" and watch the war. In the end, they decided that US tactics were inferior to Prussian tactic however, funnily enough, one of their major complaints of how Union generals conducted the war was that they weren't adhering to the regimental model of linear warfare rigidly *enough*. So there you have it, officers from one of the world's greatest militaries, and even they are tunnel visioned and stubborn when it comes to adapting to technological advancements.
Unfair, i was playing as south korea and then north korea and china declared war, initially it was north korea but then it became a china's war when it spammed unholy amounts of infantry
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A group of Infantry soldiers standing around for minutes stymied by a POW holding a knife to their buddies throat? Never happen. Most of these soldiers are competent to effectively engage targets with precision using iron sights at 300 meters. That scene would've been over in less than two seconds in real life, and that's being conservative. True combat soldiers don't hesitate, especially in a battlefield environment. But there's no drama in that for the movie maker. If we ever go back to real warfare as a country, folks are going to be in for a big surprise.
if there are three chinese soliders One has a gun One has a drum One has a pipe Those musical instruments were tool to make enemy to feel scared Plus they dont have a enough gun
So interesting. Maybe those South Korean infantries who had been attacked by the Chinese were too scared to memorize any detail of how they were crushed.
Syohei Harr Because they were protected by silver lining-UN forces... Seriously no one won dat war. Just bunch of ppl used by two sides of Cold War. Pathetic.
Kevin Miller exactly. And NK had the backing of the eastern bloc, USSR, and China and still couldn’t beat the south. Hence why the south didn’t get crushed
@@plartoota4584 well I don't get the definitions of crushed... But the SK army did fall back to the southwest city called Pusan Perimeter in the whole Korea, pushed back by NK forces, which means like over 90% of the land was abandoned/seized by NK forces. Don't know if that is a crushed. All glories of this war is firm and tenacious of American and Chinese army, since to the end of this war those are the only two left on the battlefield.
Fun fact that's not actually fun: when the Chinese intervened in Korean war they still stuck with their own civil war as pockets of Kuomintang forces still active in southern China.
The Chinese only entered the war because they warned the Americans to not cross certain section point of the penisula as they didn't want Americans troops near their border. Had the Chinese not intervened North Korea side would have lost because China provided more troops than the North Korean and Soviets sidec combined thrice over. The americans and koreans ended up losing cities that they captured in the North.
Also btw, these forces are PVA meaning “People volunteer army”, some were probably veterans from the Civil war that volunteered to fight against the UN forces But by that means, the Chinese had veterans of the war called PLA in the south attacking the KMT and volunteers called PVA fighting against the UN forces
Why the south koreans dont make a movie about the sacrifices of their allies.American,puertorricans,british,turkish filipinos and others who are the real heroes of the korean war.mi father from Puerto Rico fought in Korea from 1950 to 1952 a member of 65 infantry regiment,3rd US infantry division .some south koreans units fough bravely.but the majority of their army is very poor disciplined.he always remember how south koreans abandon infantry ppsitions and run in many ocassions. they left refugies at the mercy of communist who kill them by the thousands and also stole every they can fron their own allies.the truth is the truth.today they forget the enormous sacrifice made by the free world to give them their liberty.
Mario A Battistini Not depicting in the movie doesn’t mean we don’t appreciate. Also from the beginning the separation of the nation was because of the Soviet and US. They agreed on serperating wo agreement of Koreans. Have u ever thought about it like that? But still many Koreans appreciate it though
Basically every Korean War movie is about what the Americans did. The UN intervention was critical to the South's survival mind you, however the Korean viewpoint and participation in their own civil war is not really talked about. If you've seen this movie, you know that the major turning point is when they say the US has arrived and that's when they start winning. However the director of this movie wanted a movie about the Korean War made by Koreans for Koreans. It's a movie about the tragedy of families and friends torn apart by issues forced upon them by others. Many of those that fought in the conflict are alive today, and should be honored and respected. Just because one movie shifts the spotlight doesn't mean that others aren't appreciated.
I perfectly understand that.i know the Koreans dont ask to be divided.but i remember the eyes of my father no bright no sense when he remember the brutality of the war.not even in world war two when he fought against the german and the japanese he saw that cruelty.he always talk about the civilians who die in the most terrible way.i talk about hes own opinion and the experiences in that damn war tha live with him until the day he die.we are not their but mi father belongs to 65 Regimental combat team. consided the best infantry unit of all branches of the US military and the best infantry unit in the UN forces fighting in the korean war.
@@marioabattistini7589 That would be like a Russian saying the same exact thing they were just as involved like we were but the soviets played more of a covert support role than direct action. Fun fact the majority of US soldiers didn't even know Korea existed.
Haha...Liberty. Yes, South Korea was so free under US backed dictatorship. But it’s okay because the Soviet backed dictatorship is the only one we focus on. South Korea had to deal with that bullshit until the 80’s. Fuck the USA and Britain.
you see the wave and you get this hard deadly remember, that this nation had a long civilwar and a war with japan, while you were chilling in the pacific and invented some funny bombs. Mao just answered with the old "good" times of warfare against the republic and crushed the USA with simple ignorance to looses.
@@conductingintomfoolery9163 the USA getting into a stalemate with china about Korea is a big loose for the USA, because the chinese army was weaker than the sovjet army and still effective AND because the stalemate was the aim of the chinese goverment. its like the 3 russian "states" in georgia, moldovia or since recent years the 4th state in ucrain. these wars exist to create a border and thereby reasons for militarian inrastructure at the border, not to push a force out of a region by a victory and following de-armament.
@@apollomars1678 a lose of the us would be full expulsion from Korea and all of mainland Asia, a victory would be a unified Korea under the us while having a boarder with China. A Chinese lose would be having a boarder with the us or a us ally, a Chinese win would be filling kicking the us out and back into the Sea of Japan. A statement would be for both sides, us is still in Korea but doesn’t share a land boarder with China to invaded them. The Korean War was a stalemate and a war still going on until 2017 when trump and Kim signed a peace deal. Even they both said it’s was a stalemate.
A lot of friends and family were separated on both sides of the war. In this scene, one of the younger brother's childhood friends was wearing a North Korean uniform and was shot and killed. He confronted his older brother about it because he seemed heartless about it.
Does anybody know if the Chinese army was using amphetamines during the Korean war? The Germans used them in WW2 and ISIS was using them in Syria and Iraq. It would make sense that the Chinese used them as well if all they has was vast numbers with very little or no air, artillary, or tank support.
Similar usage as to the Germans or even the USA, Chinese aviators in the People's Liberation Army Air Force would occasionally be issued stimulants. The downsides to these drugs was pretty well understood back then, so issuing it to pilots and air crew who could be pretty well expected to be either back at base or dead/captured by the time it wore off was an acceptable risk. Human wave tactics by infantry was powered by revolutionary zeal and or the sure knowledge that if you retreated you'd be shot by your own officers.
Ken, some research says you have it backwards. If "Shooting Up: A history of Drugs in Warfare" is to believed, U.S. troops were issued amphetamines, while Mao had a rather dim view of drugs. "Furthermore, Mao launched a decisive and victorious campaign to eradicate the opium habit amongst the military and civilian population. In February 1950 the communist authorities banned the cultivation of the poppy plant and prohibited the production, import, and sale of opium and other intoxicating drugs. Opium stocks were burned in public, and dope peddlers were sent to work camps. The use of opium was declared not only harmful to the individual’s health but was also proclaimed an antisocial, antisocialist, and typically capitalist activity. Drugs, in a word, were equated with imperialist subversion. The antidrug policy proved so effective that by 1960 China’s long-standing drug problem was successfully overcome.25"
Thanks for the info however I still believe it is possible that the Chinese army was using emph's on these massive offenses and wave attacks. It is now well known that German troops were using them freely throughout WW2. They can take as much as they wanted whenever they wanted. British troops used them in Africa against Rommel. Now I do not know what country you are from but there is a TV show in America here called M.A.S.H. and it was about a hospital in the Korean war. There was an episode where young wounded American troops were coming into the hospital with elevated heart rates and yes it does seem as if American troops did use them on some offensives but just for those missions were some objective had to be taken. Also it is known that the Chinese did in fact give American prisoners Emph's in there food depriving them of sleep and basicly brainwashing them with propaganda. So yes I think it is still possible that the Chinese army did use them but kept it secret for propaganda reasons. Not trying to take away the courage of the brave Chinese soldiers. Drugs or no drugs no way in hell would I ever bum rush a fortified position like that.
SMFCNA Opium had a specifically negative cultural association with foreigners in China since the days of the East India Company. Similar, but in some ways more intense, to the opinion from African American activists in the past about crack cocaine- that it was brought in by their enemies (CIA, or in the case of Opium the British) to destroy their community. It’s not a real good comparison to controlled doses of stimulants issues to soldiers or pilots during war.
Ken, I think it may have just been beyond the capacity of Chinese industry to turn out pills like the Germans and U.S. could. Mikes allegation about Chinese piolts makes sense and is in keeping with how WWII combantants issued stimulants. Also, keep in mind that what you see in this video is very "Hollywood". The Chinese practiced infiltration tactics (very short version: sneak up on your enemies lines and only attack when you are so close the enemy won't use arty or air support.), which was a lot more sophisticated than just throwing a shitton of screaming men at a line. It was more like the Viet Kong meets the late war Soviet army instead of Iranian style human was attacks.
The scariest thing is that the Chinese were not just ordinary soldiers with large numbers, but veterans of the Chinese Civil War and the Sino-Japanese War.
They were exclusively volunteers.
Most were ideologically motivated young men (and some women).
There were of course many who fought in the civil war, but generally those who have already experienced war did not volunteer to fight again.
@@daniels_0399 sounds bullshit.
@@VeryProPlayerYesSir1122 i don't think you know much about east asia
@@davidlee3499 That still didn't stop them from getting their asses beaten by a handful of Filipino soldiers in Yultong.
@@ralphjimenez3191 why is everyone so focused on that moment Filipinos beated 40k north korean and Chinese soldiers, the Filipinos got pushed back after that battle though so that didn't really change anything
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0:01 damn that shot is fucking epic, just thousands upon thousands of soldiers charging towards the enemy, infact theres so many soldiers you can see them on the smaller hills in the background.
Well this probably 4+ divisions charging into Korea
c'est très exagéré par hollywood ... en fait, la plupart du temps, l'armée rouge se battait en infériorité numérique. cela impliquait une concentration momentanée de troupe sur une petite partie du dispositif adverse qui était brièvement submergé. le tout allié à une grande science du camouflage, du renseignement, et à des déplacement très rapide permis par l'armement très sommaire dont disposaient les soldats communistes .
" quand vous cherchez les communistes pour les détruire, vous ne le voyez jamais ... mais lorsque vous les voyez, vous ne pouvez plus rien faire, vous êtes encerclé de toutes parts " sydney rittenberg
Indeed, the Chinese attack was with 1.5 million soldiers
Its a bit overdone. I mean, they weren't literally a wave of guys charging from horizon to horizon through the countryside.
@@tomitiustritus6672 on a de bonnes vidéos de la guerre de corée : lors des charges, on peut estimer qu'il y a autour de 100 à 200 hommes par hectare ... et encore !
Probably one of the only war movies I've seen in my entire life that actually made me cry. What a masterpiece!
Try watching Northern Limit Lines
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React to gunesi Gordum or I saw the sun Turkish movie it’s brutal it has English subs and you will cry or at least tear up
You cried? I cried it was especially sad when he promised to be home but he was killed in combat only to be discovered 50 years later
Check out LongYuan Hill it’s not a movie but it’s a video
Yeah that’s... not how Chinese human wave tactics work... sure looks epic on film though XD
What you talking about, in Korean war they used this tactic
Bruh, the Chinese lost 48,000 men trying to surround and crush 15,000 US Marines and Army using this tactic at the Battle of Chosin.
@@abhinav5847 That's not how the chinese used human waves. It's more complicated than just running at the enemy in massive collumns
@@Jake-dh9qk yeah nerd but they used it in korean war.
@@abhinav5847 lmao what are you? 7?
god this movie was gory, the land mine scene was the worst
But do you remember when the villager corpses blew up?
@@MrSviggels right that scene
I never understood how that guy got he's leg blown off and survived while the other guy got shot once in Pyeongyang by that one general with that pistol
I like it though, I like seeing foreign war movies from the perspective of soldiers from that country with gritty realism.
You think this is gory? Watch kill bill
Me: opens a pack of gums
the hallway: 0:02
@ BotchPL ,😂😂😂
lmao
IKR
You mean everyone in the town
탱크로 다 갈아버리고 싶네
The most relatable comment😂
Okay, human wave tactics are stupid, but you can't deny the fact that you'd piss yourself if you saw a horde of even a quarter of a million charging at you while screaming bloody mary.
If it’s stupid and it worked ,it’s not stupid
@@枣-h8xIf it’s stupid and it works, it’s still stupid and you got lucky.
@@枣-h8x Imagine it this way
an Empire say its named "The Red State", sends over 4.4M men with underprepared weapons, low ammo, and barely equipped to fight maybe a State called "Orange Republic", who has around 1.6M equipped men, well fed, and air superiority.
Say the Red State wins but ends up with:
- The Red State ends up with: 3.2M Deaths
(300K or more Injured)
- Orange Republic: 75K deaths
(130K or more injured)
Red State is the winner, but it lost basically almost all of it's men. And if we want to make the scenario worse, we can say that was only a battle, and that Orange Republic is now sending in a 1M men equipped offensive!
While the Red State cannot recover from that battle!
@@枣-h8xit did worked but at price of several loss lives. Overall we humans only have only one time to live, and ending it too early is unfortunate. It sucks of seeing family members sorrow over your death without having a chance to say goodbye to them
In fact, if we really had a human sea tactic, we would have failed long ago. Americans and South Koreans don’t understand the three-three system, and they can’t understand why the Chinese army is so powerful at picking up missing weapons, so we can only comfort ourselves by saying that it was a human sea tactic.
Great movie scene but one glaring historical inaccuracy:
The People' Volunteer Army never hoisted the national flag of PRC. Legally speaking PVA was a "volunteer" force. PRC never declared war against any members of the UN force, nor did itself receive any declaration of war. The legal façade was meticulously maintained. There was never the showing of PRC national flag or PLA flag on any occasion throughout the Korean War. Instead PVA used its own battle flag, which was sometimes used in conjunction with the North Korean flag.
What makes it more complicated though is that if I remember correctly the Chinese PLAF flew their MiGs openly in their official schemes and markings, unlike the Soviet mercenaries who often flew in North Korean-marked jets. If so, then it was an official Chinese combat operation (against American B-29s, fighter jets and other UN coalition aircraft). The US was not interested in another World War, so they just kept the conflict limited to the Korean peninsula (rather than widely striking Chinese targets in retaliation).
Lawyers and warfare. Oh joy.
Maybe the producers did it because they wanted to show that the Chinese arrived. It would be difficult, maybe not because of it's scale, that the PVA hoisted the DPRK's flag.
@@jorgeropero359 the americans wrote in recordings that they knew the chinese already arrived because the soldiers they fought got considerably taller.
한국사람입니다. 할아버지는 이야기해줬습니다. 중국인 1명 죽이면 3명이 나타나고 3명 죽이면 10명이 나타나고 시체가 산처럼 쌓여있었고 평생 그 기억은 고통으로 남았다고......
事实是你爷爷见到第一个就吓得尿了出来，跑到山里去了
@@姓氏名字-u3l 침략군 주제 ㅋㅋㅋ 미국 그렇게 싫어 하면서 미국 플렛폼쓰냐 중국은 이미 미국한테 졌다는 증거다,,,
@@응애-m6z你用纸擦你的底部是不是用了中国人的技术？为什么不用玉米棒子？😂
@@姓氏名字-u3l애초에 중국군사망숫자=한국군+미국군+북한군인데ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
@@Abcfghi-q7j是吗？不管怎样，见到中国军队，逃跑得足够快确实会降低死亡率，这点你们做的很棒。
The US and UN soldiers were largely not veterans of WWII. Most had already retired or been sent home. The British soldiers in Korea were the most combat experienced.
General MacArthur's brilliant landing at Inchon turned the tide, until the Chinese arrived. General MacArthur's ego and racism led him under underestimate the Chinese. UN forces were completely surprised and outnumbered. President Truman fired him. The US Marines showed bravery, fighting out of Chosin Resvoir after the Chinese had smartly surrounded them. The war was brutal, particularly because of the winter. Ironically, the Chinese would use many American weapons to kill Americans because they had received American aid during WWII to fight the Japanese. The Chinese had taken in and sheltered many American pilots that had been shot down over China by the Japanese. 5 years later, the Chinese would be fighting their former friends. Why? Because North Korea wanted to conquer South Korea.
Not quite. MacArthur did incorrectly believe the Chinese would not intervene, but Truman relieved him for trying to escalate the conflict and smash China for good rather than his failures. The Chinese used many American-made weapons, but these were not supplied to the Nationalists in WWII. They were supplied to the Soviets, who gave them to the Chinese Communists after conquering Manchuria from Japan.
@@michaelmccabe3079 In addition, it's important to note that MacArthur pushed Truman to invade China. Truman opted not to, as the objectives and endgame of invading China were unclear, ambiguous, and simply a task the American public would not or could not stomach. MacArthur severely underestimated China because history shows China has always used the Korean Peninsula as a buffer zone. Even in medieval times, Japan kept invading Korea, and every time, China rallied to fight Japan back. It wasn't because of political alliances, but it was China being wary at Japan being so close to their doorstep. It's why China got involved in the Korean War. The easy narrative to sell was the Soviets, Chinese, and North Koreans were all communist and had a common ideology, but China wanted to keep the US and the West away from its borders.
@@uncreative5766 MacArthur believed that as long as China was willing to intervene, it should be knocked out. Just like how defending Belgium from German aggression in both world wars wasn't limited to fighting just in Belgium and never striking at the source. Reclaiming China for the free world would also position 450 million people at the USSR's soft underbelly, and thus supply an existential threat (hence why the Soviets put so much effort into flipping it to the Comintern).
The American public was willing to take on China in both Korea and Vietnam, but the Army in 1951 was a shadow of its WWII self; demobilization had gutted everything. So committing to a war in China would require too much resources that weren't immediately available, and leave western Europe wide open for a Soviet invasion.
Not exactly. Chinese Communist Party was never a friend of US until 1970s. You are talking about Kuomintang/Nationalist Party, the ruling party of Republic of China which was an ally of the west and fighting the japanese during WWII, until got kicked out of mainland to Taiwan by the communist.
@@nimacao9159 Yes, hence why I said MacArthur wanted to knock them out. Part of his plan was to rearm Chaing's Army in Taiwan and help them re-invade China to force Mao to fight an existential war on his home turf rather than Korea.
Human wave tactics, aka ‘Throwing enough men at the bullets until the enemy runs out of bullets’.
if there are three chinese soliders
One has a gun
One has a drum
One has a pipe
Those musical instruments were tool to make enemy to feel scared
Funny thing is, the Chinese did't use Human wave tactics. They simply ensured that wherever they attacked they outnumbered their opponent.
Its just the west spread wrong info to the mass. In fact its force concentration. Oh and to do this with an walking army, peng du hoai is godly general.
@Antenna2heaven no they don't. that kind of language is distasteful...did Picketts Charge look like rats
This is South Korea
We also want the same thing in american army. Never attack outnumbered
The Chinese army was a low tech army, they relied on human wave attacks to compensate for their lack of firepower and unimaginative tactics. The US Civil War (as well as WW1) demonstrated the futility of massed frontal assaults. While it is true that any attacking force should have numerical superiority, a strict reliance on overwhelming numbers ensures massive casualties as well as a disregard for such casualties.
The ultimate reason why Korea still seperated nowadays.
You mean when Chinese intentionally exploited how shitty the ROK army was? Col. Ridgeway mentioned how bad of fighters you were.
Where’s Liberty Prime when you need him?
Busy killing Pure blood America. Remember it never killed anyone beside pure blood American (Enclave). Damn Brotherhood Fascist...oh wait...Enclave also Fascist...hmmm!?
NekoLilium2012 The real patriots need Prime, The minutemen
DEMOCRACY IS NON NEGOTIABLE
A celebrity in a disguise: *gets spotted by one person*
The people who want an autograph: 0:02
Hahhaha nice😂
The citizens of Cambodia stands with South Korea !!!! 😁
Maximum level of empathy.
I thought your nation are Chinese's lapdog.
0:06 damn, they like bugs in Starship Trooper
Many Chinese people don't understand this movie. Because they don't know the difference between movies and propaganda.
lol 😅
what battle is this?
Sino-Japanese war i guess
korean war
@@percypalmer.100yearsagowhat the hell are you talking about? Please, educate yourself before commenting
@Anonymous-is6xu he said "I guess" don't be too harsh
War is no glory is all hell as said. There is a mistake: When the shell explodes there is what is called killing ratio. Depending the mortar we talk about 20 mts dead area. Anybody near the blast will die if 10 mts farder stunned and deft... and so on. I dont study mortars physics but I know if the shell explodes 8 mts near you... in the open... you are dead. So the movie is innacurate. Mortar fire is horrible if the shell explodes near heavily populated areas because the blast wave and the shrapnel. But if we talk about howitzers... big guns... dawn.
Wrong. Arty kill radius are way exaggerated. Also most all the shrapnel goes up or stray into the ground. Do you even know how far a meter is? Huge 155mm shells may not touch you at 20 meters. One meter away from a mortar shell and you could be fine. Probably not, but you still could be. Explosives are finicky things. Mortar rounds are generally small, 60mm.
@@refugeeca good to know
What even worse is being in a wooded area or cement area. All those wood and rock will cut and shoot into you. That why people hide in fox hole so the wood or rock will fly over you.
Nobody:
The Japanese in saipan: 0:03
0:06 HOLY SHIT THAT IS ALOT OF THEM!!
Chinese always bring so many men to fight. European medieval wars were total joke compared to Asian wars. 🤣🤣
Mass assault doctrine
Almost 2000000k
@@SiwushwiwOh nah, china got 100 trillion people living in china😵😵😵
in firts place their so many chinese soliders their 8000,000 soliders in mind
This would have traumatized me had I been the one facing them down.
Free Tibet!
Mao already did
fuck Tibet, they still had slaves when the PLA liberated them
Nobody cares about Tibet
Free yourself from your mums basement
Free Palestine and Yemen dickheads.
Me at school:
Silently opening a pack of gum*
One of my classmates heard it*
OMG HE HAS GUM!1!1!1!
CHARGE!! 0:02
1:00 when you rage because the other Army is going to destroy you
lol
Tbf, he didn't stop raging when the artillery started raining down.
Best suene i laught the best 😀😄😁😆😅🤣😂🤔🤭🤤😝😘
He's raging because Chinese interupted Korean unification, after 30 years of Japanese colonization
@@chamtax No, the USA interrupted Korean unification. The USA is trying to enslave Korea and use it as a puppet. If the USA would get out of Korea, Korea would be united by now.
Are human waves still effective in modern wars
Russian side threw two human waves in Ukraine, with immense artillery barrage, and they caused harm on Ukrainian military and resistance at the same time.
Unknown because human waves haven’t been used since about the 1960’s or so, pretty much all cases of human wave attacks after that are just instances of frontal assaults played up with propaganda
Human waves is effective if it’s like 25 waves of 100,000 soldiers each vs 1.2 million soldiers in a trench with artillery
@@vincentxu4709 what if it took place like say in the Jungle or Forrest
@@BayawJ2005 I’d say 50 waves or more since jungles and forest?
Naw guerrilla warfare is possible
Me: Opening a bag of chips
My entire school: 0:03
Ok this is actually funny😂😂😂
Me: I’m so glad my hot gf isn’t showing any red flags!
My gf: 0:10
Lmao :))
When the mall opens on Black Friday (I'm sorry)
0:06 "Smallest army in Asia"
US Soldier in Korea: Do you have earthquakes here in Korea?
The Earthquake: 0:03
Ever been to korea?
Captain Artemis: "Earthquake?"
King Leonidas: "No Captain, Battle formations"
I’d be afraid as a Chinese not of bullets but of getting trampled
That’s why u should charge if you stop u die
"If you can't beat them join them."
- Sun Tzu, art of war.
Spoilers
sun tzu never said thisBS ,u💩head
Not always the case. Why should any country join another that considers their people as mere objects or prons in the war as you see in 0:01 They have no respect for human life.
"Fuck this shit" - Sun Tzu
@@yoyoyo7083 Why did you write 0:01 while speaking about the UN/US and south korea ?
If Chinese actually attack like this, they should end up like British in WWI and not able to push 10 miles in entire war
No, they did attack in human waves just ask veterans on both sides and they will say they did. But what made the Chinese effective was that they had enough troops to keep US/NATO forces busy at strong defensive positions, while moving mass units around to attack and threaten weak points and supply lines.
Royalmerc so u mean US in 1950s have less fire power than Germans in 1910s?
@@vilx1308 No... That is not even close to what I said. Okay, let me explain myself better. The Chinese advance depicted in this clip caught the US/NATO and South Korean forces by surprise. They were advancing and had not consolidated their forces giving the Chinese the opportunity to flank their defensive positions and attack weak points and supply lines. The Western Front in WWI was different from the Chinese advance here because the Germans had a defensive line stretching from the Baltic Sea to neutral Switzerland giving the British/Allies the inability to flank them when attacking. Dose that make sense? In fact when the US/NATO and South Korean forces do consolidate their forces in a defensive line from the Sea of Japan to the Yellow Sea the war grinds down into battles not unlike what you would see in WWI
Royalmerc China sends the warnings long deforestation the attack, its US’s problem for not react on it
Royalmerc and no it’s dose not, West Europe is a plain which as u know is better for troops advancing and mountains in Korea, and since the battlefield in Korea is even narrower which makes even harder to flank
That war was basically USA fighting USSR but using Koreans. Same the US is doing right now in Ukraine to fight the Russians.
War is not that simple.
USA put 300k soldiers on the ground and 100k from the UN. Korea didn't do much to help itself.
당신은 한국의 역사를 하나도 모른다. 전쟁은 김일성의 야욕때문에 벌어졌다
Your Prez uses Central Asians and Mongols in his Pan-Slavic ambitions. USA is cleverly benefitting from the situation, they are doing a witty move after decades.
@@JohnDoe-bh2lpDude the Americans sent 1.7 million troops
Horde bonus. Jokes aside, such warfare must've been a terrifying experience in those days. To witness a large mass of humans, under orders, and aimed at overtaking you and your position at any cost... Even though this is just a film and a scene. It still gives off a somewhat scale of what you would've seen, had you been on the top of some hill... supposedly tasked at defending.
And you know what even more scary?
From the UN perspective, these 100,000 Chinese soldier are literally teleport out of nowhere.
The Chinese used mountain along the Yalu river to hide their force from the UN Air Force Recon and alway march at night to avoid being seen.
After 3 weeks of rigorous deception, they spring their ambush on top of the South Korean outpost by complete surprise.
1950 - 1953
🇰🇷
🇨🇳
If it’s stupid and it works, it isn’t stupid.
Holly, there’s like a million Chinese soldiers. Probably 4+ division joined together combined. Very terrifying.
Mainlanders never dropped below 1 million personnel since 1945
@@scepticsquirrelThey did drop briefly during Mao's "Cultural Revolution" when the military purge occurs.
In fact, it drop all the way to around 650,000 personnel during the worst months of the revolution. Forcing Mao to enforce drafting to replace them.
Asiatic horde
My whole class climbing stairs at another building at our school be like 0:00
What did they all die and fight for? Kpop.......
Its simple really just look at a map of Korea at night and you will see what they fought and died for.
Kpop, Manwha, Starcraft e-sports and Gangnam Style to be exact.
@@Royalmerc North Korea simply takes global warming way more serious than anyone else.
That shit doesn't make sense. This is japan vs china. Not Korea. South Korea only made the movie but the ones fighting were japanese and Chinese. Baka.
Died for Manchuria.The MacArthur tried to attack the Northeast China.So the Chinese had to push them back
Jesus is real he will be back soon!!!!!!!
0:00 In my school we do this game called octopus tag and it feels like this
쏼라 ~~쏼라 ~~ 우린 조선족 위주로 편성된 인민해방군이다해 ~~ 우린 조선통일을 막았다해 ~~
Cancel south Korea and support North Korea
More Koerans fought on the "South Korean" than the Communist Korean side. Even most the parties in North Korea before they were liquidated were against the Communists. Kim faction and communist had under 250k Korean troops, the anti-Communist Korean army had over 1.3 million Koreans. Whereas the North Korean side 1.5 million Chinese , 200k Soviets
When chinese have a cloning factory.
They literally have over 1 billion population
Just realized some of Chinese soldier didn't even bring a weapon
They don't need weapon, they are weapon.
Which is a fault.
Unlike the Soviet whose production facilities got destroy which cause weapon shortages during WW2, the Chinese factories were able to produce weapon and armed all soldiers properly.
Not to mention that unlike a literal million men army Soviet have, the Chinese only deploy 500,000 men to Korea. A relatively smaller number of men to take care of.
0:03 Me: ( having ice cream)
My clssmates: be like
Im quite sure that in real life, the Chinese attacked mostly at night and at close range
When the Orks freshly land and start towards Armageddon Hive City Hades...and the Steel Legion lose their Chimera transports.
In a nutshell
0:00 all of my long lost relatives when they found out I won the lotto
If it’s stupid and it works, it isn’t stupid.
ridiculous movie, if u attack like this u will achieve nothing but casualties and big lost.
Say that to the Russian
@@captainstag8189 say that to Japanese
The biggest issue is how the human wave offensive was not at all structured the way it was shown, this was only done for more cinematic shots. If CPR or DPRK did this, all the South Korean forces would have to do is radio for barrages and break the fragile lines, it wouldn’t really be hard to completely break their ranks and render their attack completely useless and cause such massive gaps and casualties that what’s left would be picked off and leave the defending forces with much less casualties. Thankfully the Chinese tactics were far more well thought-out than the movie makes it seem. Honestly the biggest issue PRC military had was their supply and Navy...their Navy essentially was dwarfed from the beginning compared to most their opposition but the Kuomintang pretty much decimated most their vessels due to their sheer size difference and their tactical advantage with fortifying Taiwan. Or at least, this is all from as much as I know which may be inaccurate, I find 20th century military tactic stuff very interesting.
(Oh and funny that the one guy mentions the Russians when yet again, movies portray Zerg rushes all the time but as with this movie’s criticisms to their portrayal of Chinese tactics, the same issues are applicable to Soviet tactics in cinema and, consequently, pop culture.)
Say that to your Xi Jin Ping. How can you chinese use the UA-cam? Your master might blocked it.
@야야투레 Bruh don’t you go talking about censorship and authoritarianism when South Koreans can’t bring up the involvement of the Japanese in the dictatorship propped up by the USA. Took until the 1980’s for SK to have elections that resembled western democracy, and still today many things are illegal which would be called “draconian” if they weren’t a NATO member.
Love how even his squad mates knew that was fucked up
that PLA wave reminds me the 300's Persian armies march to the first battle...
nice war movie^^
*chinese army used banzai charge on winter*
at 0:01 the enemy is coming let’s leave the base and run at them
What?
@@CHRŌMVS a "human wave attack" is like the scene from Flowers of War, where the Chinese tried to get close to a tank using their bodies and whatever cloth they could armour themselves with. This is a regular attack, or basically a Banzai, or WW1 charge except Chinese style. Not human wave attack, I dont think. If it was a human wave attack, they would have the intent to basically kill themselves as a human meat shield, and no weapons in their hands other than their flesh to die
@@nathanb.8114 NO it would be guriella tactics
@@nathanb.8114 The Japanese would shoot their rifles and pistols during a banzai attack
Isn't that Korean soldier from 'My Way'
made by the same director
This sence is not true. In fact, the Chinese force crossed the Yalu River and reached the battlefile secretly. And they only initiated attacks during night time because the U.S military equipements are way advanced and firepower are too strong.
some of them aren't even carrying weapons lol
There's no way those Chinamen not lose the war, if they swarmed in like that in broad daylight....
This is the very same Chinese Army wave that was held up by PEFTOK's 10th BCT in Yeoncheon.
Why do the S. Koreans look so similar to US troops. I mean, they couldn'tnt have gotten ALL their supplies from the Americans.
The US supported South Korea so they poured lots of supplies to them. Just like how n. Koreans looked like Chinese soldiers
Lol you'd be surprised, there was a lot of left over equipment from WWII.
@Gappie Al Kebabi ...... Korea is in Asia.
You just answered your own question
@@ordohereticus5530 Lol the same reasons why North Koreans troops look so similar to Chinese and Soviet soldiers. That's where their supplies came from 😂😂😂
South Korean army officer is have an Ex KMT Army officer in 2nd Sino Japanese War and Chinese Civil War before return to Korea.
First of all, since the moment of the birth of automatic weapons, purely crowded tactics have withdrawn from the stage of history. At the Battle of the Somme, the British played the tactics of the sea of people and lost 60,000 people in one day. If the volunteers also played the same way, even the entire Chinese army would charge at the 38th line. The Volunteer Army’s offensive tactics have been very mature after many years of war. During the offensive, the army was formed into a skirmish line. The distance between them should be ensured that a mortar shell could not hit two people. The attack was launched from the side as far as possible, and the front was more often a feint. Coupled with these excellent tactics, such as encirclement, interspersed, surprise attack, night battle, encirclement and aid, etc., it finally constitutes China's unique human sea charge.
That’s actual bullshit lmao
@@evergreatest3316 kid ur 12
@@theonlykyle good one
@@evergreatest3316 lol
This is just... not true. While human wave tactics are certainly over exaggerated in films for cinematic effect, many nations continued to use said tactics all throughout the 20th century, particularly nations that had enacted a overly vigorous conscription program without the industry to immediately support and equip their massive new influx of combatants. This is part of it - but another reason for the employment of massed waved warfare was also due to the inadequacy of the generals and their nature to eitherly very slowly adopt to the quickly changing aspects of modern warfare which was becoming ever more mobile and fast paced with each new advanced made in the military industrial complex or - in some cases such as WWI their hubris led them to outright refuse to change their tactics because they simply believed they had been educated to the best possible standard in whatever esteemed military academy they had graduated from and thus there was simply no way there were any tactical maneuvers that they did not know of that were superior to what they had been taught... and nowhere was this more evident than in Europe with many nations believing their military was far superior to their neighbors. I mean hell, even in Eastern Theater of WWI linear warfare tactics were still being employed to some degree.
We have however, diary after diary - battle report after battle report that solidifies that nations were indeed employing mass wave tactics all the way into the late 20th century. My own grandfather fought with the US Marines in Korea and was there fighting the Chinese in Chosin Basin - and he firmly attests that the Chinese were indeed using mass wave tactics. There is no more damning evidence than an eye witness report (excluding recordings), and we have those in spades.
As for the introduction of automatic weaponry, it has been clear since the mid 19th century that generals of all nations and caliber simply have a difficult time adapting to changing circumstances in warfare - it is historically evident that even up to our modern day, strategy consistently lags behind technology, and tactics have a hard time keeping pace with the constantly shifting and advancing military technology. Our ability as a species to make technological advances always outpaces our ability of adaptation to the new reality brought by said advancements. This truth transcends just warfare and is apparent in all aspects of life... it took decades for industrialized nations in the 1800's to fully adopt to railroad after the invention of the railway and steam powered train engines.
A good example is the U.S. Civil War, despite the invention of much more deadly technology, such as rifled muskets with a much higher rate of accuracy and fire than smooth bore, howitzer cannon artillery pieces, and the dreaded galling gun the grandfather of the machinegun... the U.S. and Confederacy still used linear warfare for the majority of that war despite that the fact that the invention of rifling had made firearms incredibly more accurate, removing the entire need for firing in massed clusters - linear regiments - and only served to provide a massive firing target. It wasn't until the very last year of the war in 1865 that truly started to adapt to new realities of rifled firearms (muskets with rifling), in which the fighting in the Eastern theater devolved/evolved (depending on how you see it) into the grueling trench warfare style of fighting we'd eventually see some 50-60 odd years later in WWI.
To further prove my point, Prussia whom at the time if the Civil War during the height of the Victorian Era commanded (arguably) the best and most disciplined land army in the world send several of their officers to the US to sort of "spectate" and watch the war. In the end, they decided that US tactics were inferior to Prussian tactic however, funnily enough, one of their major complaints of how Union generals conducted the war was that they weren't adhering to the regimental model of linear warfare rigidly *enough*. So there you have it, officers from one of the world's greatest militaries, and even they are tunnel visioned and stubborn when it comes to adapting to technological advancements.
Unfair, i was playing as south korea and then north korea and china declared war, initially it was north korea but then it became a china's war when it spammed unholy amounts of infantry
0:01 banzai charge?
Forced concentration attack
:v
I laugh whith the potato bucket 😆🤣😂😅 how it kick it so many times
Ohh also Mitchell Red Cloud Jr Was Born in Wisconsin and is always honored by the Ho Chunk nation at Andrew Black Hawk Pow wow Grounds every Memorial day
A group of Infantry soldiers standing around for minutes stymied by a POW holding a knife to their buddies throat? Never happen. Most of these soldiers are competent to effectively engage targets with precision using iron sights at 300 meters. That scene would've been over in less than two seconds in real life, and that's being conservative. True combat soldiers don't hesitate, especially in a battlefield environment. But there's no drama in that for the movie maker. If we ever go back to real warfare as a country, folks are going to be in for a big surprise.
Bruh stop making such a fuss around a scene lol
“That’s the seventh time I killed that guy!”
Racially motivated 😤
Can you tell me how to download movies fast and easy
This is the Japanese way of fighting
Chinese only swarm when attcking small group enemy. But, mostly they ambush at nightime.
Yes
if there are three chinese soliders
One has a gun
One has a drum
One has a pipe
Those musical instruments were tool to make enemy to feel scared
Plus they dont have a enough gun
So interesting. Maybe those South Korean infantries who had been attacked by the Chinese were too scared to memorize any detail of how they were crushed.
我是cqf South Korea still exists. Obviously they didn’t get crushed like you said
Syohei Harr Because they were protected by silver lining-UN forces... Seriously no one won dat war. Just bunch of ppl used by two sides of Cold War. Pathetic.
Kevin Miller exactly. And NK had the backing of the eastern bloc, USSR, and China and still couldn’t beat the south. Hence why the south didn’t get crushed
@@plartoota4584 well I don't get the definitions of crushed... But the SK army did fall back to the southwest city called Pusan Perimeter in the whole Korea, pushed back by NK forces, which means like over 90% of the land was abandoned/seized by NK forces. Don't know if that is a crushed. All glories of this war is firm and tenacious of American and Chinese army, since to the end of this war those are the only two left on the battlefield.
And how many Chinese died? The Chinese strategy revolved around just throwing bodies at us.
Fun fact that's not actually fun: when the Chinese intervened in Korean war they still stuck with their own civil war as pockets of Kuomintang forces still active in southern China.
The Chinese only entered the war because they warned the Americans to not cross certain section point of the penisula as they didn't want Americans troops near their border. Had the Chinese not intervened North Korea side would have lost because China provided more troops than the North Korean and Soviets sidec combined thrice over. The americans and koreans ended up losing cities that they captured in the North.
@@CBACBA-f1uDon’t forget that MacArthur bombed Chinese cities which caused the Chinese intervention
Also btw, these forces are PVA meaning “People volunteer army”, some were probably veterans from the Civil war that volunteered to fight against the UN forces
But by that means, the Chinese had veterans of the war called PLA in the south attacking the KMT and volunteers called PVA fighting against the UN forces
so tragic
going against china in RON be like:
Is this movie based on real events?
Why the south koreans dont make a movie about the sacrifices of their allies.American,puertorricans,british,turkish filipinos and others who are the real heroes of the korean war.mi father from Puerto Rico fought in Korea from 1950 to 1952 a member of 65 infantry regiment,3rd US infantry division .some south koreans units fough bravely.but the majority of their army is very poor disciplined.he always remember how south koreans abandon infantry ppsitions and run in many ocassions. they left refugies at the mercy of communist who kill them by the thousands and also stole every they can fron their own allies.the truth is the truth.today they forget the enormous sacrifice made by the free world to give them their liberty.
Mario A Battistini Not depicting in the movie doesn’t mean we don’t appreciate. Also from the beginning the separation of the nation was because of the Soviet and US. They agreed on serperating wo agreement of Koreans. Have u ever thought about it like that? But still many Koreans appreciate it though
Basically every Korean War movie is about what the Americans did. The UN intervention was critical to the South's survival mind you, however the Korean viewpoint and participation in their own civil war is not really talked about. If you've seen this movie, you know that the major turning point is when they say the US has arrived and that's when they start winning. However the director of this movie wanted a movie about the Korean War made by Koreans for Koreans. It's a movie about the tragedy of families and friends torn apart by issues forced upon them by others. Many of those that fought in the conflict are alive today, and should be honored and respected. Just because one movie shifts the spotlight doesn't mean that others aren't appreciated.
I perfectly understand that.i know the Koreans dont ask to be divided.but i remember the eyes of my father no bright no sense when he remember the brutality of the war.not even in world war two when he fought against the german and the japanese he saw that cruelty.he always talk about the civilians who die in the most terrible way.i talk about hes own opinion and the experiences in that damn war tha live with him until the day he die.we are not their but mi father belongs to 65 Regimental combat team. consided the best infantry unit of all branches of the US military and the best infantry unit in the UN forces fighting in the korean war.
@@marioabattistini7589 That would be like a Russian saying the same exact thing they were just as involved like we were but the soviets played more of a covert support role than direct action. Fun fact the majority of US soldiers didn't even know Korea existed.
Haha...Liberty. Yes, South Korea was so free under US backed dictatorship. But it’s okay because the Soviet backed dictatorship is the only one we focus on. South Korea had to deal with that bullshit until the 80’s. Fuck the USA and Britain.
you see the wave and you get this hard deadly remember, that this nation had a long civilwar and a war with japan, while you were chilling in the pacific and invented some funny bombs.
Mao just answered with the old "good" times of warfare against the republic and crushed the USA with simple ignorance to looses.
Still didn’t make the us loose it was a stalemate, us had it base called South Korea now
@@conductingintomfoolery9163 the USA getting into a stalemate with china about Korea is a big loose for the USA, because the chinese army was weaker than the sovjet army and still effective AND because the stalemate was the aim of the chinese goverment. its like the 3 russian "states" in georgia, moldovia or since recent years the 4th state in ucrain. these wars exist to create a border and thereby reasons for militarian inrastructure at the border, not to push a force out of a region by a victory and following de-armament.
@@apollomars1678 a lose of the us would be full expulsion from Korea and all of mainland Asia, a victory would be a unified Korea under the us while having a boarder with China.
A Chinese lose would be having a boarder with the us or a us ally, a Chinese win would be filling kicking the us out and back into the Sea of Japan.
A statement would be for both sides, us is still in Korea but doesn’t share a land boarder with China to invaded them.
The Korean War was a stalemate and a war still going on until 2017 when trump and Kim signed a peace deal. Even they both said it’s was a stalemate.
tfw no funny bombs dropped on shandong peninsula
Sound Like Japanese?
its Korean
@@Daiin0He might the charge
@@vincentxu4709 what do you mean?
@@Daiin0 ok i said it wrong, i meant he might think it's the charge that sounds Japanese
For the 🐉🐲🐉🐉🐉
Were thos Chinese the People’s Volunteer Army?
Yes
if u think to have a very bad day, well, u never faced a Chinese Human Wave...
Chinese human wave?
The Chinese only charged with hundreds of thousands of men to enemy positions
Im so confused what happened.
A lot of friends and family were separated on both sides of the war. In this scene, one of the younger brother's childhood friends was wearing a North Korean uniform and was shot and killed. He confronted his older brother about it because he seemed heartless about it.
@@marka.1770 Yea slavery and rape is the way to govern a nation 😒😒
@@marka.1770 Nope, nope, and a whole lotta nope.
@@marka.1770 You actually think we didn't try to revolt?
@@marka.1770 no, just, no. Look at the bigger picture. That really wouldn't be a good idea..
HURRRAAAAAAAA!!!!!
eish this movie is very painful where is the full movie?
Does anybody know if the Chinese army was using amphetamines during the Korean war? The Germans used them in WW2 and ISIS was using them in Syria and Iraq. It would make sense that the Chinese used them as well if all they has was vast numbers with very little or no air, artillary, or tank support.
Similar usage as to the Germans or even the USA, Chinese aviators in the People's Liberation Army Air Force would occasionally be issued stimulants. The downsides to these drugs was pretty well understood back then, so issuing it to pilots and air crew who could be pretty well expected to be either back at base or dead/captured by the time it wore off was an acceptable risk. Human wave tactics by infantry was powered by revolutionary zeal and or the sure knowledge that if you retreated you'd be shot by your own officers.
Ken, some research says you have it backwards. If "Shooting Up: A history of Drugs in Warfare" is to believed, U.S. troops were issued amphetamines, while Mao had a rather dim view of drugs.
"Furthermore, Mao launched a decisive and victorious campaign to eradicate the opium habit amongst the military and civilian population. In February 1950 the communist authorities banned the cultivation of the poppy plant and prohibited the production, import, and sale of opium and other intoxicating drugs. Opium stocks were burned in public, and dope peddlers were sent to work camps. The use of opium was declared not only harmful to the individual’s health but was also proclaimed an antisocial, antisocialist, and typically capitalist activity. Drugs, in a word, were equated with imperialist subversion. The antidrug policy proved so effective that by 1960 China’s long-standing drug problem was successfully overcome.25"
Thanks for the info however I still believe it is possible that the Chinese army was using emph's on these massive offenses and wave attacks. It is now well known that German troops were using them freely throughout WW2. They can take as much as they wanted whenever they wanted. British troops used them in Africa against Rommel. Now I do not know what country you are from but there is a TV show in America here called M.A.S.H. and it was about a hospital in the Korean war. There was an episode where young wounded American troops were coming into the hospital with elevated heart rates and yes it does seem as if American troops did use them on some offensives but just for those missions were some objective had to be taken. Also it is known that the Chinese did in fact give American prisoners Emph's in there food depriving them of sleep and basicly brainwashing them with propaganda. So yes I think it is still possible that the Chinese army did use them but kept it secret for propaganda reasons. Not trying to take away the courage of the brave Chinese soldiers. Drugs or no drugs no way in hell would I ever bum rush a fortified position like that.
SMFCNA Opium had a specifically negative cultural association with foreigners in China since the days of the East India Company. Similar, but in some ways more intense, to the opinion from African American activists in the past about crack cocaine- that it was brought in by their enemies (CIA, or in the case of Opium the British) to destroy their community. It’s not a real good comparison to controlled doses of stimulants issues to soldiers or pilots during war.
Ken, I think it may have just been beyond the capacity of Chinese industry to turn out pills like the Germans and U.S. could. Mikes allegation about Chinese piolts makes sense and is in keeping with how WWII combantants issued stimulants. Also, keep in mind that what you see in this video is very "Hollywood". The Chinese practiced infiltration tactics (very short version: sneak up on your enemies lines and only attack when you are so close the enemy won't use arty or air support.), which was a lot more sophisticated than just throwing a shitton of screaming men at a line. It was more like the Viet Kong meets the late war Soviet army instead of Iranian style human was attacks.
only filipino's can beat this whole wave
@의친왕 bruh have you read history???
@의친왕 bruh
Go cry to ya mama
@신라인 you dont know? 1,000 filipinos defeated 40,000 chinese troops
@@discopanzer1009 your circus army suffered a total of 92 men dead during the entire korean war ...then i know you people are full of shit
in your dreams
How are the mortar so accurate.
movie
Fire enough motors, some of them will hit.
average impossible rusted warfare bot:
it's funny how they made it look so dramatic when it actually was pretty straight forward
The only army Chinese army cannot defeat
Philippine army
Phillipinese is just another shitty US puppet, keep dreaming
@의친왕 shut your goddamn mouth
If Filipino so strong then come face us in the SCS I dare you. 🇨🇳🇨🇳🇨🇳